yelan is proof the CCP commissions artists to draw softcore for the purpose of advertising and maintaining a constant online presence on target demographic websites. theres no way you can have a total pit goddess like her with this little material
Yelan's unlimited sprinting stamina means she's never leaving my overworld team. The fact that she synergizes well with my other favorite characters is a bonus.
I like how all these Yelan videos are trying to be impressive, but ultimately they're all just a bunch of extra steps just to get the same amount of damage Eula does with one Superconduct proc.
All the designs are above board already. They also probably won't market ZZZ to everyone like they did with genshin. All the constant backlash and death threats probably aren't worth it.
I've been upgrading all of my units to lvl 70+ for the free fate but when I'm done with that I dunno what I'll do. I'm trying not to farm/use 5 star artifacts because of that new strongbox change in 3.0.
I'm conflicted
My comp really needs Kazuha, but I really like the Kansai-ben genki
I regretted not rolling her the first time even when she turned out to be shit. So I don't know if I would be making the same mistake rolling for Kazuha
you have no ideal how yalen spcial barb scale dont you? think as 156% act like a elemental bonus scale but its not. skill dmg * bonus * 156% * hydro bonus. think about it sound i pick hp% over bonus charge attack? whenn i can get over 40k max hp from passive and c4.
Yeah no kidding. I didn't notice that before, his stat spread is terrible too.
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Honestly at that point the amount of extra damage damage doesn't matter and even at C2 150% isn't enough for her to refill her own burst consistently, might as well just run Emblem to cover the ER.
I also have her at C6, 4pc EoSF >81/213 Crit Ratio >31.2k HP >188% ER
I even switched my HP sands for ER. I'm sure your Yelan out damages mine but she melts everything so fricking fast already its overkill. I decided to make her burst uptime more consist. You probably get super fat elemental skill damage though so respect, people sleep on that.
>and even at C2 150% isn't enough for her to refill her own burst consistently,
And here's another dumbass with an even worse stat spread on top of an even weaker set bonus.
>And here's another dumbass with an even worse stat spread on top of an even weaker set bonus.
I don't know if you've noticed this, but you don't exactly get to choose your substats. I play this game for fun and C6 Yelan can practically solo abyss with shit artifacts. EoSF is weaker but I just said I'd take low maitenance permaburst over shaving a few seconds off abyss for no fricking reason. I am well aware I could sacrifice some Crit stats for more HP if I had the chance, or run metagay artifact sets.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>spends hundreds if not thousands of dollarsto maximize damage >but doesn't actually try to maximize damage
Why are whales so dumb?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>spends hundreds if not thousands of dollars to maximize damage
That isn't why I C6'd Yelan. Min/Maxing is absolute homosexualry and the Genshin is the dumbest game to do it in. It's an absolute piss easy casual game where the core content is a slice of life events and flash mini-games.
Why would I spend my time grinding the same artifact sets for weeks, if not months on end, and optimizing stats when there is absolutely no content that calls for it since I'm already so overpowered?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're really flexing your moronation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Great rebuttal, I sure look stupid.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are the definition of a moron arguing that you don't min-max when you spend thousands of dollars to maximize damage.
Then you ask why you would "waste" time farming artifacts when you waste money to get the same result
2 years ago
Anonymous
I just told you I didn't spend money to maximize damage, I spent money because I like the character and her C6 is a lot of fun. I actively avoid constellations that are just flat number buffs, and am only interested in ones that change a character's kit/role. I'd go for Kazuha C6 if I liked him even though it's far from meta, cause it sounds fun. If I sat and optimized my stats any further, she wouldn't be any more fun and it'd waste months of resin for miniscule increases. Miniscule increases that will gain me nothing. I like her C6 because it melts opponents, if they melt 0.05 seconds faster I don't give a shit.
It's so ironic that you're arguing with someone insulting their intelligence with every reply, meanwhile you don't have the mental capacity to understand there are other reasons than meta and big numbers to like a character in a fricking gacha. The characters a designed to sell outside of their damage. As for the cost, it's called disposable income. It's an extremely superfluous purchase that I can easily afford.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I just told you I didn't spend money to maximize damage
You spent money strictly to boost a character's damage, what do you think that means you absolute braindead moron? Holy frick whales are idiots.
2 years ago
Anonymous
so you dont have to spend time min max artifact, and go to work. and Genshin still alive and shit out more content for f2p. Whales are the GOOD GUY stop the hate
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah instead of 5 minutes you spend hundreds of dollars. Both actions are for what purpose again? You are so fricking moronic haha.
you dont get it 150% ER Yelan. Do I need it? for c6 Yelan
2 years ago
Anonymous
>uses 5 characters >still manages to be completely soulless
Impresive
2 years ago
Anonymous
i dont need c2 raiden. and kazu. my first team do fine with shitty sub stats not that i have a choice. my XL still lv 70 you can tell i lake of resources.
do I have to pull out Kazu 1k em VV with r5 freedom and Shenhe hold "E" to hit 80-100k per barb just so i can did 2% more dmg? with whaterver 2 pieces combo.
nta but here.
4 HOD has the same problem as 4 EOSF, that being it doesn't buff every part of her kit like the hybrid setup.
2 years ago
Anonymous
so you are mad about my 150% ER and the burst did less dmg, when I littlely main Yelan that on field do auto and shit. and you telling me to wear a 4 Emblem so my E lost 30% for a 2% whatever skill it is. dont have energy issue by the way Thoma support me with r5 fav and i still have XQ and more characters options to support yelan. dude come on now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>so you are mad
I said I'm nta.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>get shown the data >start coping >turns out the whale is even more moronic than previously believed since he's using Thoma and Xingqiu in his c6 Yelan party
you love to see it
2 years ago
Anonymous
there is nothing to cope about
that not even ingame data
you have no ideal how yalen spcial barb scale dont you? think as 156% act like a elemental bonus scale but its not. skill dmg * bonus * 156% * hydro bonus. think about it sound i pick hp% over bonus charge attack? whenn i can get over 40k max hp from passive and c4.
Honestly at that point the amount of extra damage damage doesn't matter and even at C2 150% isn't enough for her to refill her own burst consistently, might as well just run Emblem to cover the ER.
I also have her at C6, 4pc EoSF >81/213 Crit Ratio >31.2k HP >188% ER
I even switched my HP sands for ER. I'm sure your Yelan out damages mine but she melts everything so fricking fast already its overkill. I decided to make her burst uptime more consist. You probably get super fat elemental skill damage though so respect, people sleep on that.
Considering how they were willing to fix Zhongli, the least they could do is make Shenhe a bit better. She doesn't have to be super-top tier or something, but I think a lot of 5-stars could use some rebalancing. The main ones are Xiao, Shenhe and Miko.
Also I'd appreciate it if they made Albedo's skill less fragile.
They only fixed Zhongli because of massive pressure to do so due to his status as god of not-China. It's doubtful we'll ever see a buff like that again, least of all from a female character. Best we can hope for is an artifact set but considering they knew how bad she was on release that seems unlikely.
What could you even do for her, anyway? The biggest issue with her kit is how extremely limited her functions are. She buffs Cryo damage and, to a lesser extent, Phys damage. That's all she does. The buffs aren't even significant enough to be a gamechanger.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The set would have to greatly improve the damage she adds and possibly her cryo/phys shred. But even then the problem remains that she is horribly niche, only really working properly with Ayaka.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're supposed to roll shenhe C6 and ayaka C6 then play vergil simulator
2 years ago
Anonymous
i will pull for for shenhe
, cuz i like hot aunt
2 years ago
Anonymous
I pulled for her on her first run but I kinda regret it since she contributes nothing to any team I have.
2 years ago
Anonymous
what is the deal with stack frick ton of atk on her? dont she do good dmg with it? I only care about her passive for none cryo team else i need her to support Ayaka, cuz my she not that strong
2 years ago
Anonymous
You do, it's just that the actual damage she adds isn't really all that much no matter how much atk you stack.
2 years ago
Anonymous
A damage dealer build needs % bonus damage and lots of crit so no, purely stacking ATK% doesn't give you any significant damage, Shenhe does that because her buff scales on her max ATK
Shenhe isn't bad btw, niche but not bad at all for the role she does
2 years ago
Anonymous
She's beyond niche. Just niche would be that she buffs cryo DPS characters, but there are only two, technically three legit Cryo DPS characters in the game and of those only one is arguably worth using her with. Maybe this will change when we get a new Cryo DPS but by that point she'll likely be invalidated for that role anyway.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>freeze team is the most or second most popular team in the game paraded by meta Black folk for over a year >new character works in said team
The rosaria melt team works pretty well for her but playing anything but the most cookie cutter teams would probably break your mind
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not that guy but at C6 she gets an ability to fire her special charge shots like a shot gun, but you probably never bother to read what the cons do
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I just told you I didn't spend money to maximize damage
You spent money strictly to boost a character's damage, what do you think that means you absolute braindead moron? Holy frick whales are idiots.
So which Sumeru bawd should I be saving for anyways?
Note: I only roll with my wiener, I don't give a shit about meta.
Then ask your wiener, moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
>only function is a means to buff a single other character >must be C6 to really be good >said function can be filled in by another, easier to obtain character
This is not an appealing premise compared to all of the characters that work just as well at much lower investment levels with more than one character.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I've had good results with ayaka+shenhe+kazuha/sucrose+mona/kokomi
2 years ago
Anonymous
Change her quill mechanic to be like Yunjin's and give it a higher cooldown to keep it balanced. The main problem is that she wastes like ... hard to put a number on it but it's a LOT of damage by not strictly buffing your Ayaka/Ganyu like Yunjin does.
A damage dealer build needs % bonus damage and lots of crit so no, purely stacking ATK% doesn't give you any significant damage, Shenhe does that because her buff scales on her max ATK
Shenhe isn't bad btw, niche but not bad at all for the role she does
Whether you build her full ADC or full ATK her DPS is basically the same in single target but ADC wins in AOE. The best way to build her would be ATK/Cryo/ATK in my opinion. Really boosts her own damage which has some AOE.
>Shenhe is fine if you invest into her or Ayaka's c6.
Stupid takes like this just show that you do not understand what Shenhe does or how to play her.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not wrong, she has very little impact until c6.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No she doesn't. What the frick do you think C6 does? Oh it lets you NA without running out of quills does it? Yeah that does sound like it'd be busted, only it isn't, on Ayaka you don't want to spam normals, you want to set up Shen E, ult, then Shen E one more time into her ult, on Ganyu you just won't be able to shoot that much between Shen Es because the cooldown is only 10 seconds.
The idea that her quills being limited is somehow a bad mechanic comes from misunderstanding of what she does. She's not a buffer in a classic sense although she does have res shred and dmg% buff out of the box but what she really does is she transfers her damage to other characters and in those ten seconds up to four (but realistically three) characters on your team can fulfill HER damage. She's not really buffing, she gives other units her damage to pull off. This lets her be very flexible because her damage can be fulfilled by virtually any cryo unit, past and future, including anemo cryo swirls, and the only time you have to turn on your brain is when you're trying to melt that damage. Whenever I hear "Oh, her quills run out in one Ganyu AOE" I just fricking cringe because I know it's a take people picked up from braindead Youtubers who can't stop to analyze how to play this game.
Mathematically she's completely fine and balanced just like most other units and lets her ungay your freeze team.
So yeah, you have no idea how to use her. Thanks for confirming.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Ayaka you don't want to spam normals
You do if you want to do peak Ayaka damage, so much damage that Ayaka's burst is a DPS loss. There's no point reading the rest of this post since you already sabotaged yourself saying such dumb shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Noooo I have to be able to speedrun abyss like Chinese whales or the unit is shit
Congratulations Dawei got you by the balls
2 years ago
Anonymous
If I wanted Shenhe performance there are many 4 or 5 star alternatives. She's just mediocre at best until c6 where she starts shining. Ad hominem does not change that you coping homosexual, stop trying to act smart.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If I wanted Shenhe performance there are many 4 or 5 star alternatives
If you want to play Rational all day knock yourself out, Genshin is not about that nor is it balanced around whale c6 damage.
I bet you think you need godroll artifacts to have any fun with the game too and if your damage is like 80% efficiency you shit and piss yourself.
The point is that she's perfectly competitive at regular play level and this shit game isn't worth spending 2500$ per character to reach theoretical damage potential and 10-second your abyss runs because it's just not fricking balanced for it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>DPS loss
I love this meme
>bla bla bla cope cope cope
I didn't ask.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>DPS loss
I love this meme
2 years ago
Anonymous
>including anemo cryo swirls
Neat, didn't know about that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> Oh it lets you NA without running out of quills does it? Yeah that does sound like it'd be busted, only it isn't, on Ayaka you don't want to spam normals,
Why the frick are you talking about a character you know nothing about? >The idea that her quills being limited is somehow a bad mechanic comes from misunderstanding of what she does.
It comes from wanting your character to do damage, to be useful. Most of the time over half of her potential damage is not coming out because of how her quills work. You're defending this because you're moronic and don't understand the character you're trying to preach about.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Look at Ayaka's scaling on her burst jesus christ normals don't matter because you need downtime for supports anyway, why don't you show a video of you playing instead of some Chinese whale huh
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Look at Ayaka's scaling on her burst
Completely irrelevant to Shenhe's quills which do more damage when Ayaka uses her normal attacks. If Shenhe is c6, Ayaka's normal attacks eclipse her burst in damage. >why don't you show a video of you playing instead of some Chinese whale huh
Better yet, why don't you show us how you play this game. Defending a character you don't even understand, you're definitely shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Completely irrelevant to Shenhe's quills which do more damage when Ayaka uses her normal attacks.
They do not. The damage bonus is fixed. It literally doesn't matter what cryo damage you're using to get it out. > If Shenhe is c6, Ayaka's normal attacks eclipse her burst in damage.
Irrelevant to majority of Genshin players. If you want to discuss c6r5 SSR units and how they are balanced (or rather how they are not) go right ahead but it's completely irrelevant to majority of players.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ayaka's normal and charge attacks have more bonus damage and can proc more quills. >Irrelevant to majority of Genshin players.
What do you think you were talking about? Stop moving your goal posts.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>What do you think you were talking about? Stop moving your goal posts.
You're talking about use of the unit at an absolute optimized setting which is both not achievable without real money and isn't expected from you by the game. It's pointless to discuss balancing in this case because it's just a completely different ballpark. It only makes sense to discuss unit use and balancing at c0~c2 level because that's what's achievable for majority of players. You think a unit is bad because you convinced yourself that you "need" to have c6 damage or gameplay, but most SSRs get stronger with constellations, that's the entire point of constellations, that doesn't mean their c0 gameplay doesn't exist or that they aren't worth using below that, you fell into the same trap C2 raidengays did.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You were literally talking about c6 you backpeddling homosexual.
Finally got caught up after not playing for like 3 update cycles and finished the Interlude chapter. I don't like her, but from what I played she was kinda fun.
>He is a male though so he'll likely be decent at worst overall.
That's why I said likely. Thoma is more the exception so far along with maybe Xiao. Even Albedo got indirect buffs out the ass to make him better.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Xiao will forever be loved, that event got him a lot of love. Also helps he voiced by Kirito in Japanese
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol the last relevant male released meta wise was kazuha back in 1.5 >a dog who only works in one team >a guyservant who's completely useless >mediocre dps #1 >mediocre dps #2
>He is a male though so he'll likely be decent at worst overall.
What’s his role anyways? His shields was shit and his constellations were also completely forgettable
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's good at chopping wood.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pretty much any spear users is good with that
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah but he is the best.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's supposed to be a shield bawd for hu tao so there's a second pyro in the team to swirl VV, but his shield is so shit and the new team is so clunky that people completely dropped it
Then they released yelan which made him completely irrelevant altogether
sucrose will still be the queen and kazu still be the king. He properly be Yanfei level of fun till you get bored with it. hoyo keep shitting more selfish on-field hugger lately and it seem all the way to sumeru. i'm not jumping in on the "game change dendro"hype train.
wouldn't really be mad if I get any of the standard banner 5*, just a bit disappointed.
I would be fine with a Mona or a Jean to be honest, I would just save my pity for a Ganyu reroll if that happens.
Not that I wish to imply it would be GI specific but how do you see embedded shit on images? Don't feel like playing Russian roulette with otherwise fine images saved from here again.
I'm serious. I recently got a 3 day ban for unknowingly posting an image with something extra in them. I thought this site straight up blocked those. Apparently not anymore.
There seem to be a lot of Shenhe experts here so I'll ask;
Is it even remotely worth it to try and get decent crit rate/dmg on her? Or should I just go full ATK? (with enough ER ofc)
if you're having ER issues just give her favonius lance, being able to use burst off CD is more important than having damage per screenshot
in shenhe teams you'll certainly have cryo resonance so having crit rate isn't very important but if you're running fav you might want to have sooooome of that
her cdmg doesn't matter unless you're trying to like, use chongyun and proc her own damage with her but that feels like a waste of her potential
I tried to use rosaria/mona/sucrose/shenhe but theres no way to not slowly die with bo shield or heals so now ive settled to rosaria/jean/yelan/shenhe. I really want to use mona with shenhe because the damage is excellent but no protections is too high risk even on freeze comps
You know what I find funny? The people saying that there are white people on middle East are using the same arguments the people they don't like use when there are brown people in a place where they aren't predominant. Just go into any thread about the newest GoW, it's the same shit, but reverse.
>The people saying that there are white
if by white you mean blondes and blue eyes? they exist but very rare
if we're talking about skin color then yes the majorities are white especially the women since they dont go out of the house as often as men here in KSA
>Like the aesthetic of genshin >Download for pc >No free summon bonus for pc for some reason but whatever >No luck with summons that the game gave me to start >Takes forever to grind for more summons
I want to like this game but I don't want to keep making new accounts just to have a chance at actually fun characters.
The fact that you need to complete this domain 30 000 times to get ONE good artifact out of it means having an easy and lazy way to do it is appreciated
Fricking shooting with Ganyu to the ground to miss 30% of damage from the initial hit. Fricking moron. Also extremely shit damage. Rope yourself private server gay
this might go over your head, but the only reason someone would spend money on this PVE game is to make things easier.
normal human beings can beat all content with FREE characters. which means that someone who NEEDS c6r5 is an actual mental cripple.
so, when you say shit is unfun and easy, because your c6r5 character does so much damage, it's because you're moronic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This game has a huge disparity between new people/people who don't know how character builds work to people who look shit up. I have never bought a welkin and I think the game is easy to the point of being boring babby shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes, it's a phone game for kids. what kind of a neckbeard would try to minmax something designed for kids.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the only reason someone would spend money
If he is gambling addict and wants a weapon/character. Because all this game has is slot machine and chores aka quest+chest+daily to get to slots. >normal human beings can beat >Yeah, you can get this top star C6 as f2p, but it will take months and years of chores to do so >normal human beings can get 5 star C6
And so on >shit is unfun and easy >because your c6r5 character does so much damage
No, shit is unfun because gameplay is shit, if I change them from c6r5 to c0r1 I'll do exactly the same stuff but it will take longer and easy is because it's a p2w game with shallow and hollow gameplay.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Holy shit, that looks absolutely amazing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If course it does, I am the best player in this game and in cookie clicker after all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What??
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why are you still responding to the blatant shitposter?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why are you mad that people like how I trash this game?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, now you are talking to the best genshin player to date.
Would genshin become EOS because of the bankruptcy from making another rate up banner for 5* standard characters? I don't see any other reasons of holding out their accessibility for years to newbies and extremely bad luck fans.
The desperation can drive some people to waste more primos/money at any time so there's no reason to give them a rate-up. If it was a common thing then even those desperate will wait/save free gems and get their sought after character guaranteed(through pity). Some whales spend thousands just trying to get the base 4* cons from the standard banner since they're never on rate-up either, so it's working exactly as designed.
>What's triggered the sudden armpit love
"standard" hot things like big boobs, asses and so are being attacked and censored left and right, so people find alternatives
And that's what I hate about the current banner system if you're F2P or at least welkin—your wishes are split between the event character banner and that character's weapon banner.
Or just simply not roll weapon banner unless you have gems to spare and/or you really like the character
2 years ago
Anonymous
I really like Raiden and I want her to be at least C2, have her signature weapon and the right artifacts. And my next problem is FOMO. Save months worth of wishes for the next Raiden banner and miss out on the new girls, especially the Dendro ones.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>want to have whaleshit but isn't a whale
Well too fricking bad
>Natlan, Fontain, and Schneznya are all based off elements Kazuha can swirl and buff >anon is conviced he won't be relevant because of an element that'll make it easier to reverse melt (cryo damage)
Dendro is going to be a sidegrade.
They open with a direct no frills DPS and a shitty giveaway subDPS, with no dendro support sets.
Burning? You can already Sunfire.
Intensified? I mean I guess you could use another way to buff Electro.
Overgrown? That's just fancy Overload.
The game hasn't had a meaningful powercreep after 2 years and Dendro won't be it either.
Burning looks like it'll be a lot more accessible than Sunfire tbh, especially if they're going to give us Collei for free who has AOE Dendro application on her burst
Yeah, of course. But my point is that Dendro will not push DPS curve in a noticeable way, instead just offering new gameplay styles. Lack of powercreep is actually part of FOMO model of this game when you think about it, if the next time you see your favorite character on a banner is 1 year later, then 1 year later that unit still better be good or nobody's going to care, and as we can see this model instead of constant number go up chase actually worked in the game's favor since it's earning so much.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dendro will be absolutely broken and become the new meta. Mark my words.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Dendro will be absolutely broken and become the new meta. Mark my words.
There are upcoming dendro artifact sets assuming the leaktrannies are correct
Also powercreep is definitely a real thing, you just don't feel it much because it's a slow process and game content is still too easy for it to matter
>powercreep >when the most meta characters are from the game's launch
People will still be using Bennett in version 6.3 or whatever lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
What about ayaka, or yelan, or raiden, are they from 1.0 too
Do people play klee and diluc these days or they have switched to Hu tao and other dps?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yelan in some cases can be Xingqiu sidegrade.
Raiden is mostly balanced but it's not like she crept good 1.0 units out of the meta, she added to them.
You see the problem is that 1.0 didn't actually have that many good units and units that were thought to be good weren't. Diluc and Klee didn't get powercrept because they were already outclassed by Bennett and Xiangling to begin with. I guess if you want to like, super generalize then yes, there are now better units that there were at the start of the game but it's not like the DPS curve got pushed comparatively, there's just more ways to get to the current norm.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>old characters being replaced by new characters that fill the same role isn't powercreep
Remember the old morgana team about a year ago that metagays like to parade as the bread and butter that shit on all game content? Every single member in that team has been more or less replaced by a limited 5* character, if this isn't powercreep I don't know what is >but Bennett
Him hasn't/doesn't get powercrept doesn't mean the game as a whole has none of it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Morgana
You mean that team that was great against small, liftable mobs? Almost as it they fell off thanks to to very same reason why Venti fell off
2 years ago
Anonymous
>doesn't count
Even if small crowded enemies chambers come back people still wouldn't use that comp anymore
2 years ago
Anonymous
>meta changes due to different enemy lineup >hurr durr powercreep
Guess Hu Tao powercrept Ayaka this Abyss
2 years ago
Anonymous
Read that post again
2 years ago
Anonymous
If they fill the Abyss with trash mobs, of course they will use it again, possibly modified with Shenhe instead of Diona since you're basically invincible with endless burst spamming
2 years ago
Anonymous
And kazuha instead of venti
And ayaka instead of ganyu because she deals more damage
And kokomi isntead of whoever the healer is for more comfort and consistent hydro
2 years ago
Anonymous
>clear is 3 seconds faster
Wow that sure was worth the 10s of thousands of primos and resin
2 years ago
Anonymous
>changing the goalpost again
2 years ago
Anonymous
3 second time savings isn't power creppnin the slightest, moron. Not like this game has leaderboards, which would all be dominated by Leviathan anyway
2 years ago
Anonymous
Whatever helps you sleep at night, by the way read this post again
There are upcoming dendro artifact sets assuming the leaktrannies are correct
Also powercreep is definitely a real thing, you just don't feel it much because it's a slow process and game content is still too easy for it to matter
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah bro a slow process. Can't wait for the Tsaritsa to come out and end up meta because she's 10 seconds faster than Ganyu
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you actually look it up the new team is much better clear time wise, and anyone playing right now has no reason to roll the old characters as opposed to new ones if they want a strong team
But like I said, game content is still too easy for it to matter, and whatever helps you sleep at night
2 years ago
Anonymous
>a few seconds >in a game where f2ps are perfect clearing end game content with over a minute to spare on the timer
The only power creep exists in your head where you have to jerk each other off over clear times
2 years ago
Anonymous
Congrats on completely missing the point and repeating what I just said, idiot.
You can clear shit with Diluc in current year, but no one plays him because he has been powercrept by Hu Tao, it's a fact whether you like it or not.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>still jerki g off over clear times
Obviously you've never played a game where old characters are rendered unusable forcing you to roll on new ones just to compete. Power creep literally does not exist in any relevant way, it's just for morons like you to jerk off over bigger damage numbers and quicker clear times while the baby mode difficulty stays the same
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no it's not powercreep unless it's THIS bad
Last response moron, keep arguing with yourself
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not pwer crepp because it had 0 meaningful effect
I don't think that powercreep is the way Mihoyo plans to make money. I think they're making Genshin a toolbox game, where characters are the best at dealing with a perticular type of content but really bad at others. This has the advantage of keeping older content still worth getting, but still having a reason for pulling for new characters.
They've already done this with Venti and shielders, you can expect them to do something similar to healers and reaction teams in future. They even found a way to make geo teams kinda meta.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This may be somewhat true but it's also just that they don't know shit about balancing, hence why you have characters like Shenhe and Yae who are totally worthless in near every respect and others like Bennett and Kazuha who are borderline broken.
He's already irrelevant, any anemo with VV can do his hob well enough. There is a reason he flopped the first time even though the chink metaBlack folk knew of his buffs day one.
>He's already irrelevant, any anemo with VV can do his hob well enough
He does VV AND provides you and equivalent of an extra elemental goblet. Plus light grouping on demand and a non-insignificant amount of swirl damage. For mono-element teams such as Freeze, Hyper Raiden, or hell even Klee since she's significantly easier to just play in mono Pyro, he's incomparable. He's only edged out by Sucrose in vape or taser, and the rest of Anemo don't offer damage buffs providing utility instead (stronger grouping or healing).
>provides you and equivalent of an extra elemental goblet
Does not justify a stop in team. The only places that's justified is really the mono pyro and phys teams. Pyro because it doesn't have an amplifier yet, and phys doesn't need. Freeze wants shenhe, ganyu, and hydro, there's no space for Kazuha. Hyper Raiden has Sara, Yae, and Benett. He's only really useful if you don't plan to roll many characters and hate sucrose for some reason.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Hyper Raiden has Sara, Yae, and Benett >Yae
DPS loss over Kazuha
lmao > Freeze wants shenhe, ganyu, and hydro,
Ganyu Q provides less buff than Kazuha
I know you hate the leaf and all but objectively he's a good unit, if not a necessary one.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's good, just doesn't justify the primos from a purely meta perspective, from which is the angle Oyohim are trying to sell him for a whole year. Whales will build better teams, poorgays should just use Sucrose. He seems to be a dev favorite though, which is why they stopped the drip marketing for this patch only, and I expect they'll continue to shill him even more like they do with Childe.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Whales will build better teams
Except a lot of whales use him
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Whales will build better teams,
Majority of whales use Kazuha though so I don't know where you're going with that argument
Drip marketing usually refers to revealing new characters on their Twitter right before the patch prior to those characters coming out goes live. They started it with Ayaka, Yoimiya, and Sayu, and did all throughout Inazuma
Will that forked private server ever be in a completed state? This game looks appealing to me just to explore but I will never take part in gacha bullshit where I only get to play characters I happen to roll. That sounds miserable.
New player, does the game hang on boot for anyone else? For a while I would get the hoyoverse splash but now i dont and the game doesn't respond for like 15-20 seconds then it goes to the genshin splash screen normally
I have it on super fast SSD, and my CPU is pretty fast too, but the game hangs for like 1-2 entire minutes on initial white screen. Reinstalling and wiping all cashes and registry didn't really help.
Are you running toaster hardware? On PC Genshin likes to run off an SSD
For a new install it has more hangups as it tries to build its shader cache
Thats exactly whats happening to me, r5 1600/1060 game on ssd
Updating my graphics drivers fixed it for a while but after a week or so it started hanging again, glad its not just me at least
>arguments from people recomending you to pull kazuha
great addition to your roster
bis for freeze teams
amazing for open world exploration due to double jump
easy to build no need to waste much mats
works with the upcoming dendro element
will not be powercreeped for at leas a year more
>arguments from people skipping kazuha
YOU ARE homosexual IF YOU ROLL SKIP LIKE ME
Not being a homosexual is a good argument bwo.
What are you going to do with your "meta" Kazukek?
Get 0 more primogems since anyone with a single braincell can already get 36*?
Roll for who you like, if you like Kekzuha, you're either a homosexual or a woman, if you roll him for meta, you are braindead moronic since meta doesn't matter in this piss easy game.
Just wait then, she sold well so she's returning in some 3 or 4 months. She's not like Kazuha where Mihoyo needs to shill and edge him for a year straight.
Guess I'm saving until she comes back then. I imagine she'd make a killer combo with Ganyu for constantly freezing people.
Just wait then, she sold well so she's returning in some 3 or 4 months. She's not like Kazuha where Mihoyo needs to shill and edge him for a year straight.
Why do Kazuhagays even want him to sell anyway? He got more shilling this year than any character who sold better than him. If anything, charactergays should be wishing for their character to flop because that's when Mihoyo shills a character.
That, the length since his first banner and meta will make him one of the best-selling banners. He'll probably even reach Raiden's level. Meta makes bank.
That's the joke, Kazukeks don't actually like the character, they just like the meta aspect of him (how he makes exploration better, how he makes combat easier), so they have to justify how they aren't moronic metakeks who only rolled/wants to roll him for meta reasons.
Seriously, when was the last time you heard a Kazukek claim they like him for his personality or design?
To be fair we had all that Inazuma and especially Raiden hype at the time so waifugays were saving up. It jut happens that male characters tend to be more meta while all the subsequent females save Raiden were average at best until Yelan.
>Thoma
The exception, which you homosexuals love to cling to as proof of MHY not being biased towards males in meta.
>Itto
He does fine and along with Gorou pretty much saved Geo teams.
>It jut happens that male characters tend to be more meta
Like... who?
Kazuha, Itto, Gorou and Ayato, speaking of those since. They are rarer and I did say 'more' meta compared to the half-dozen mediocre female characters since.
Thoma is fricking great, and I'm tired of pretending he isn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yanfei is better and you dint even need to level her talents or build stacks
2 years ago
Anonymous
And Thoma is much better when you build his talents and stacks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Until he starts stealing vapes
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only if you are a complete moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hu Tao alone has 3 sources of Pyro, adding a 4th is what complete morons do
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he is a shitter who can't use Thoma properly
Checks out.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>nooo you're just using him wrong
Thomagay cope os something else
2 years ago
Anonymous
The only real use i found to Thoma was with Yae as something similar to Fischl with Yoimiya, but with less range
2 years ago
Anonymous
He'll probably be aot more useful once Dendro comes out, right now his shield shield is mediocre with needing stacks and his Pyro application is unwanted
2 years ago
Anonymous
he will automatically pull the main dps to fight up close fearlessly. and thats is a plus for projectile to travel in short distance. BUILD FOR AUTO DPS
2 years ago
Anonymous
no need to cope, He will get more user and you can stop train.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I use xiao with normal attacks and he suck >b-but you are supposed to use his plung- >NOOOOOOOO YOU ARE COPING BECAUSE I USE HIM WRONG
Based moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>plays a completely unrelated character wrong >somehow this makes Thoma good
2 years ago
Anonymous
>character is bad because I use him wrong
Ok, moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you speak like you can vapes every single hit. never mess up rotation. muss be fun to not have the freedom to do something else or use someone else cuz "muh lost a few vapes"
that chinese whales with auto ayaka plus 6c shenhe is way more fun than try to vape every single hits. keke
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ayacuck >press Q to win
She's the definition of anti-fun. I was just pointing out how Thoma sucks in his own niche compared to a character that's supposed to be a Pyro DPS
2 years ago
Anonymous
What does this have to do with anything, you think Thoma is fun? The guy who press E for shield and press Q for more shield?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Shield layers are much more fun than just a shield. You know you are actually enforcing your shield every time you switch to support, instead of just "updating" it's timer like with other shielders. The fact that the shields don't stack in this game is so stupid.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What we really need is shield hp to show on the hp bar.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Shield layers are much more fun than just a shield
I'd rather watch paint dry
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, that's what you say when you use every other shielder.
It's really only Kazuha, Bennet, Xingqiu, and Zhongli. And I'm pretty sure you need 8 characters for the Abyss and not 4
2 years ago
Anonymous
xq got outclasses by a hag anyway
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not really, they're usable on different teams
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Zhongli >meta
*chortle*
2 years ago
Anonymous
20% power boost and being unkillable is very meta. Only think that can even effect zhongi is abyss wolves but you rarely see them and it still useful to have him.
To be fair, it's strange Mihoyo insists on twinks. They don't have a established fanbase like the tall homos, they're as much as niche as the e-girl (actually even more so). Tall homos have the fujos and yumes, but twinks mostly have the female pedos. They're 'male kid' lite, which is a model that doesn't even exist for that same reason.
But this is not an anime is it? It's a pixel casino. The people who spend money is are not the regular shounen-enjoying people, they're the flooding-the-character-polls-with-letters kind of people.
Twinks arent really niche when you consider them as the default 'possibly gay, bottom boi'. Their fans are the same bunch that likes to portray them as sissies or traps, or in case of fujos, to be there as a target for taller homos.
why you have to be like this. you know you can use both right? there is nothing wrong stacking normal and charge attack. and he is a shield. now we need a healing character that also buff auto/charge as well. than you will have you full meme team. are you going to keep using bennett and kazu forever? I cant
His buff is a tiny buff at C6 which next to no one has since he's a relatively new character, he's also a male with a boring kit so there's no reason to use him outside of meta reason either
You can cope all you like but he's a badly designed character that no one wants
I wish she was ugly, then it'd be easier to skip her because of how rubbish she is. Rolling for all of her cons and then also rolling for Ayaka and her cons is too much effort to make her decent.
>he skipped
I skipped because she's ugly
If you unironically think this you are actually gay
I'll miss her bros...
Wonderful breasts. I fricking love anime breasts. Actually I only live for anime breasts.
buff yelan
We would ever get another top tier armpits bros...
>armpit_sex
>3 results
yelan is proof the CCP commissions artists to draw softcore for the purpose of advertising and maintaining a constant online presence on target demographic websites. theres no way you can have a total pit goddess like her with this little material
you only noticed this now? every gatcha game does this
>communist party
>advertising
how do they keep getting away with this
I use both Yelan and her.
She won't be forgotten as long as a character with bigger breasts and a bigger ass doesn't come out.
That's not going to happen.
What are these proportions
Shenhe has ugly proportions.
no way. wrong. i protest
Yelan's unlimited sprinting stamina means she's never leaving my overworld team. The fact that she synergizes well with my other favorite characters is a bonus.
>didn't kill before burrow
ngmi
>twink impact
No thanks.
Enjoy your low damage women breeder
>only 20k per pulse with kazuha and bennet
ngmi
24k to be precise. With Mona instead of Bennett it's 30k+ in abyss which is fine
>bennet
>yunjin
>open webm
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Saved
so is this game actually fun or do you just cum during boss fights?
Som of the story boss fights are nice, wish you could redo them https://streamable.com/7447zu
I like how all these Yelan videos are trying to be impressive, but ultimately they're all just a bunch of extra steps just to get the same amount of damage Eula does with one Superconduct proc.
That's a Yoimiya video anon.
You having a stroke or something? Who the frick compares yelan and eula as if they do anything similar
>comparing a sub DPS to a hyper carry
Average Genshin player
I use them together btw
What's the highest amount of damage Ei can do without buffs from other characters?
Mine's doing like 60-70k
Go watch an IWhaleToWin video or something
Kusanali more like KUSO HER dicky!
Will be my first limited 5 star with a constellation
>getting constellations you know nothing about
good goyim
I have 300 rolls saved due to being lucky and I will roll for the dendro dicky
I don't see what Venti's looking so smug for. He's so out of practice that he's not even in the other three's league.
He always has shitty smug look while boasting he's the shittiest archon, it's accurate
*anal dicky
Will she be evil as the theories say that the archons are?
I miss all the putbawd threads I used to see with her :/
Will Zenless Zone Zero be censored like Genshin was?
All the designs are above board already. They also probably won't market ZZZ to everyone like they did with genshin. All the constant backlash and death threats probably aren't worth it.
Will we have drip marketing tomorrow?
Yelan is best design in the game nad will never topped. Sumeru = soulless garbage chars.
God my keyboard is trolling me.
>no mommies in Sumeru
Her popularity isn't going anywhere due to no competition anytime soon
The brown catgirl is a hag
>small chest
Nah, she's no competition at all.
Yelan's chest is too big
Shenhe is bigger
Yelan's chest is perfect. The chestlets of Sumeru can never compete.
She's alright. Hu Tao has a superior chest
It's never too big
Worse, the cat ears are just hairvents and hair highlights
All those Dendros are fricking lame
>pyro hag
Fricking finally
incoming female thoma
this is nice yes
but a 5* pyro hag clock is still ticking
I've been upgrading all of my units to lvl 70+ for the free fate but when I'm done with that I dunno what I'll do. I'm trying not to farm/use 5 star artifacts because of that new strongbox change in 3.0.
What are you going to exchange if you don't have fodders from farming artifacts moronbro
I have fodders.
That's a complete waste of resources.
Get them all to 6/6/6 in case you get really bored and want to play meme comps in the overworld.
Anyone else rolling for Yoi
>being a secondary
My man
I've had her for months.
Not quite day 1 but close enough.
Sure
let c6 her too and play with thoma. make thoma bawd again
Already have her, but i don't have the primos to invest to C2.
I'm conflicted
My comp really needs Kazuha, but I really like the Kansai-ben genki
I regretted not rolling her the first time even when she turned out to be shit. So I don't know if I would be making the same mistake rolling for Kazuha
>when she turned out to be shit
how can someone be so wrong
shit is relative, and I have Ayaka with Mistsplitter
Go figure
still coping?
dont care Yoi no. 1
No! never
only "Nilou" and "Nahida" that interesting from sumeru
isn't 2+2 still better than 4 hod at c6?
you have no ideal how yalen spcial barb scale dont you? think as 156% act like a elemental bonus scale but its not. skill dmg * bonus * 156% * hydro bonus. think about it sound i pick hp% over bonus charge attack? whenn i can get over 40k max hp from passive and c4.
Not listening to anyone who pulls C6 but leaves talents at 8+3 lol
Yeah no kidding. I didn't notice that before, his stat spread is terrible too.
>and even at C2 150% isn't enough for her to refill her own burst consistently,
And here's another dumbass with an even worse stat spread on top of an even weaker set bonus.
>And here's another dumbass with an even worse stat spread on top of an even weaker set bonus.
I don't know if you've noticed this, but you don't exactly get to choose your substats. I play this game for fun and C6 Yelan can practically solo abyss with shit artifacts. EoSF is weaker but I just said I'd take low maitenance permaburst over shaving a few seconds off abyss for no fricking reason. I am well aware I could sacrifice some Crit stats for more HP if I had the chance, or run metagay artifact sets.
>spends hundreds if not thousands of dollarsto maximize damage
>but doesn't actually try to maximize damage
Why are whales so dumb?
>spends hundreds if not thousands of dollars to maximize damage
That isn't why I C6'd Yelan. Min/Maxing is absolute homosexualry and the Genshin is the dumbest game to do it in. It's an absolute piss easy casual game where the core content is a slice of life events and flash mini-games.
Why would I spend my time grinding the same artifact sets for weeks, if not months on end, and optimizing stats when there is absolutely no content that calls for it since I'm already so overpowered?
You're really flexing your moronation.
Great rebuttal, I sure look stupid.
You are the definition of a moron arguing that you don't min-max when you spend thousands of dollars to maximize damage.
Then you ask why you would "waste" time farming artifacts when you waste money to get the same result
I just told you I didn't spend money to maximize damage, I spent money because I like the character and her C6 is a lot of fun. I actively avoid constellations that are just flat number buffs, and am only interested in ones that change a character's kit/role. I'd go for Kazuha C6 if I liked him even though it's far from meta, cause it sounds fun. If I sat and optimized my stats any further, she wouldn't be any more fun and it'd waste months of resin for miniscule increases. Miniscule increases that will gain me nothing. I like her C6 because it melts opponents, if they melt 0.05 seconds faster I don't give a shit.
It's so ironic that you're arguing with someone insulting their intelligence with every reply, meanwhile you don't have the mental capacity to understand there are other reasons than meta and big numbers to like a character in a fricking gacha. The characters a designed to sell outside of their damage. As for the cost, it's called disposable income. It's an extremely superfluous purchase that I can easily afford.
>I just told you I didn't spend money to maximize damage
You spent money strictly to boost a character's damage, what do you think that means you absolute braindead moron? Holy frick whales are idiots.
so you dont have to spend time min max artifact, and go to work. and Genshin still alive and shit out more content for f2p. Whales are the GOOD GUY stop the hate
Yeah instead of 5 minutes you spend hundreds of dollars. Both actions are for what purpose again? You are so fricking moronic haha.
you dont get it 150% ER Yelan. Do I need it? for c6 Yelan
>uses 5 characters
>still manages to be completely soulless
Impresive
i dont need c2 raiden. and kazu. my first team do fine with shitty sub stats not that i have a choice. my XL still lv 70 you can tell i lake of resources.
I just looked it up, 4 HOD is 2% worse.
>whale is moronic
do I have to pull out Kazu 1k em VV with r5 freedom and Shenhe hold "E" to hit 80-100k per barb just so i can did 2% more dmg? with whaterver 2 pieces combo.
Just take the L.
show the build and number and then i will took the L
Just take your meds
Oh wow another disabled whale. Maybe just go spend some more money
show me the data. name calling doesnt make you look smart
nta but here.
4 HOD has the same problem as 4 EOSF, that being it doesn't buff every part of her kit like the hybrid setup.
so you are mad about my 150% ER and the burst did less dmg, when I littlely main Yelan that on field do auto and shit. and you telling me to wear a 4 Emblem so my E lost 30% for a 2% whatever skill it is. dont have energy issue by the way Thoma support me with r5 fav and i still have XQ and more characters options to support yelan. dude come on now.
>so you are mad
I said I'm nta.
>get shown the data
>start coping
>turns out the whale is even more moronic than previously believed since he's using Thoma and Xingqiu in his c6 Yelan party
you love to see it
there is nothing to cope about
that not even ingame data
Honestly at that point the amount of extra damage damage doesn't matter and even at C2 150% isn't enough for her to refill her own burst consistently, might as well just run Emblem to cover the ER.
I also have her at C6, 4pc EoSF
>81/213 Crit Ratio
>31.2k HP
>188% ER
I even switched my HP sands for ER. I'm sure your Yelan out damages mine but she melts everything so fricking fast already its overkill. I decided to make her burst uptime more consist. You probably get super fat elemental skill damage though so respect, people sleep on that.
Oh gosh, I got her but haven't used her in the longest time, my Bennett needs to hurry up and get max bond already
She's a toppest of top meta character so she will be shitposted regularly just like any other meta character
This game is gonna be dead soon. I give it 3 more months before the players drop and then maybe one more year at most before a shutdown announcement
>next week a massive patch drops
>6 weeks after that the biggest patch ever drops
dead any day haha
So how long have you been guessing 3 more months? Bet you felt pretty confident during the 2.7 delay, huh?
I can't believe it going to die before when we're 2 months away from Sumeru
SKIP KAZUHA.
I can't believe there are people who will skip him.
Sucrose sidegrade
>rolling for males
why are u gay
one of my favorites, but yeah, she'll become even more unpopular
I would have been a massive Shenhe simp if not for those ugly flaps. Will never roll.
No amount of T&A could have saved her sales with how useless she is in combat.
I would roll for pristine T&A even if the character is useless. Shenhe was close but they just had to ruin her.
Considering how they were willing to fix Zhongli, the least they could do is make Shenhe a bit better. She doesn't have to be super-top tier or something, but I think a lot of 5-stars could use some rebalancing. The main ones are Xiao, Shenhe and Miko.
Also I'd appreciate it if they made Albedo's skill less fragile.
They only fixed Zhongli because of massive pressure to do so due to his status as god of not-China. It's doubtful we'll ever see a buff like that again, least of all from a female character. Best we can hope for is an artifact set but considering they knew how bad she was on release that seems unlikely.
What could you even do for her, anyway? The biggest issue with her kit is how extremely limited her functions are. She buffs Cryo damage and, to a lesser extent, Phys damage. That's all she does. The buffs aren't even significant enough to be a gamechanger.
The set would have to greatly improve the damage she adds and possibly her cryo/phys shred. But even then the problem remains that she is horribly niche, only really working properly with Ayaka.
You're supposed to roll shenhe C6 and ayaka C6 then play vergil simulator
i will pull for for shenhe
, cuz i like hot aunt
I pulled for her on her first run but I kinda regret it since she contributes nothing to any team I have.
what is the deal with stack frick ton of atk on her? dont she do good dmg with it? I only care about her passive for none cryo team else i need her to support Ayaka, cuz my she not that strong
You do, it's just that the actual damage she adds isn't really all that much no matter how much atk you stack.
A damage dealer build needs % bonus damage and lots of crit so no, purely stacking ATK% doesn't give you any significant damage, Shenhe does that because her buff scales on her max ATK
Shenhe isn't bad btw, niche but not bad at all for the role she does
She's beyond niche. Just niche would be that she buffs cryo DPS characters, but there are only two, technically three legit Cryo DPS characters in the game and of those only one is arguably worth using her with. Maybe this will change when we get a new Cryo DPS but by that point she'll likely be invalidated for that role anyway.
>freeze team is the most or second most popular team in the game paraded by meta Black folk for over a year
>new character works in said team
The rosaria melt team works pretty well for her but playing anything but the most cookie cutter teams would probably break your mind
Not that guy but at C6 she gets an ability to fire her special charge shots like a shot gun, but you probably never bother to read what the cons do
Then ask your wiener, moron
>only function is a means to buff a single other character
>must be C6 to really be good
>said function can be filled in by another, easier to obtain character
This is not an appealing premise compared to all of the characters that work just as well at much lower investment levels with more than one character.
I've had good results with ayaka+shenhe+kazuha/sucrose+mona/kokomi
Change her quill mechanic to be like Yunjin's and give it a higher cooldown to keep it balanced. The main problem is that she wastes like ... hard to put a number on it but it's a LOT of damage by not strictly buffing your Ayaka/Ganyu like Yunjin does.
Whether you build her full ADC or full ATK her DPS is basically the same in single target but ADC wins in AOE. The best way to build her would be ATK/Cryo/ATK in my opinion. Really boosts her own damage which has some AOE.
Shenhe is fine if you invest into her or Ayaka's c6.
>Shenhe is fine if you invest into her or Ayaka's c6.
Stupid takes like this just show that you do not understand what Shenhe does or how to play her.
I'm not wrong, she has very little impact until c6.
No she doesn't. What the frick do you think C6 does? Oh it lets you NA without running out of quills does it? Yeah that does sound like it'd be busted, only it isn't, on Ayaka you don't want to spam normals, you want to set up Shen E, ult, then Shen E one more time into her ult, on Ganyu you just won't be able to shoot that much between Shen Es because the cooldown is only 10 seconds.
The idea that her quills being limited is somehow a bad mechanic comes from misunderstanding of what she does. She's not a buffer in a classic sense although she does have res shred and dmg% buff out of the box but what she really does is she transfers her damage to other characters and in those ten seconds up to four (but realistically three) characters on your team can fulfill HER damage. She's not really buffing, she gives other units her damage to pull off. This lets her be very flexible because her damage can be fulfilled by virtually any cryo unit, past and future, including anemo cryo swirls, and the only time you have to turn on your brain is when you're trying to melt that damage. Whenever I hear "Oh, her quills run out in one Ganyu AOE" I just fricking cringe because I know it's a take people picked up from braindead Youtubers who can't stop to analyze how to play this game.
Mathematically she's completely fine and balanced just like most other units and lets her ungay your freeze team.
So yeah, you have no idea how to use her. Thanks for confirming.
>Ayaka you don't want to spam normals
You do if you want to do peak Ayaka damage, so much damage that Ayaka's burst is a DPS loss. There's no point reading the rest of this post since you already sabotaged yourself saying such dumb shit.
>Noooo I have to be able to speedrun abyss like Chinese whales or the unit is shit
Congratulations Dawei got you by the balls
If I wanted Shenhe performance there are many 4 or 5 star alternatives. She's just mediocre at best until c6 where she starts shining. Ad hominem does not change that you coping homosexual, stop trying to act smart.
>If I wanted Shenhe performance there are many 4 or 5 star alternatives
If you want to play Rational all day knock yourself out, Genshin is not about that nor is it balanced around whale c6 damage.
I bet you think you need godroll artifacts to have any fun with the game too and if your damage is like 80% efficiency you shit and piss yourself.
The point is that she's perfectly competitive at regular play level and this shit game isn't worth spending 2500$ per character to reach theoretical damage potential and 10-second your abyss runs because it's just not fricking balanced for it.
>bla bla bla cope cope cope
I didn't ask.
>DPS loss
I love this meme
>including anemo cryo swirls
Neat, didn't know about that.
> Oh it lets you NA without running out of quills does it? Yeah that does sound like it'd be busted, only it isn't, on Ayaka you don't want to spam normals,
Why the frick are you talking about a character you know nothing about?
>The idea that her quills being limited is somehow a bad mechanic comes from misunderstanding of what she does.
It comes from wanting your character to do damage, to be useful. Most of the time over half of her potential damage is not coming out because of how her quills work. You're defending this because you're moronic and don't understand the character you're trying to preach about.
Look at Ayaka's scaling on her burst jesus christ normals don't matter because you need downtime for supports anyway, why don't you show a video of you playing instead of some Chinese whale huh
>Look at Ayaka's scaling on her burst
Completely irrelevant to Shenhe's quills which do more damage when Ayaka uses her normal attacks. If Shenhe is c6, Ayaka's normal attacks eclipse her burst in damage.
>why don't you show a video of you playing instead of some Chinese whale huh
Better yet, why don't you show us how you play this game. Defending a character you don't even understand, you're definitely shit.
>Completely irrelevant to Shenhe's quills which do more damage when Ayaka uses her normal attacks.
They do not. The damage bonus is fixed. It literally doesn't matter what cryo damage you're using to get it out.
> If Shenhe is c6, Ayaka's normal attacks eclipse her burst in damage.
Irrelevant to majority of Genshin players. If you want to discuss c6r5 SSR units and how they are balanced (or rather how they are not) go right ahead but it's completely irrelevant to majority of players.
Ayaka's normal and charge attacks have more bonus damage and can proc more quills.
>Irrelevant to majority of Genshin players.
What do you think you were talking about? Stop moving your goal posts.
>What do you think you were talking about? Stop moving your goal posts.
You're talking about use of the unit at an absolute optimized setting which is both not achievable without real money and isn't expected from you by the game. It's pointless to discuss balancing in this case because it's just a completely different ballpark. It only makes sense to discuss unit use and balancing at c0~c2 level because that's what's achievable for majority of players. You think a unit is bad because you convinced yourself that you "need" to have c6 damage or gameplay, but most SSRs get stronger with constellations, that's the entire point of constellations, that doesn't mean their c0 gameplay doesn't exist or that they aren't worth using below that, you fell into the same trap C2 raidengays did.
You were literally talking about c6 you backpeddling homosexual.
She exists to turn Ayaka's charged attacks into nukes.
They took this from us
Finally got caught up after not playing for like 3 update cycles and finished the Interlude chapter. I don't like her, but from what I played she was kinda fun.
I hope Lisa constellations won't be in the shop again till I have enough to buy them
if dendro really going to buff electro
Lisa will make Kuki simp coping even more on top of Dori doesnt cost hp to heal other. kek pure kuki.
It’s up
So what's his deal? He gonna be any good?
Some weird anemo dps that would probably be shit
If he's strictly a DPS probably not great. He is a male though so he'll likely be decent at worst overall.
Remember thoma? I bet you don't
That's why I said likely. Thoma is more the exception so far along with maybe Xiao. Even Albedo got indirect buffs out the ass to make him better.
Xiao will forever be loved, that event got him a lot of love. Also helps he voiced by Kirito in Japanese
lol the last relevant male released meta wise was kazuha back in 1.5
>a dog who only works in one team
>a guyservant who's completely useless
>mediocre dps #1
>mediocre dps #2
What’s his role anyways? His shields was shit and his constellations were also completely forgettable
He's good at chopping wood.
Pretty much any spear users is good with that
Yeah but he is the best.
He's supposed to be a shield bawd for hu tao so there's a second pyro in the team to swirl VV, but his shield is so shit and the new team is so clunky that people completely dropped it
Then they released yelan which made him completely irrelevant altogether
so he's Yelan and Yoi bawd now
>He is a male though so he'll likely be decent at worst overall.
Don’t really know but I like punching stuff so I’m getting him c6.
sucrose will still be the queen and kazu still be the king. He properly be Yanfei level of fun till you get bored with it. hoyo keep shitting more selfish on-field hugger lately and it seem all the way to sumeru. i'm not jumping in on the "game change dendro"hype train.
He's okay and his role is like a better Sucrose.
kek
>cant use atk buff book
>cant use healing book
>dont have elemental boost constellation
>cant do tripple E
>cant battery
He is a catalyst user bro...
but what about trippe E tho
There is no advantage to that. It's just an AOE swirl and his punches do AOE swirls.
if he E has low cooldown i wont complain. the whole point is to have fun onfield
>cant use atk buff book
>cant use healing book
Holy moron. At least learn about the character before shitposting
>anemo catalyst
>sucks people in
Yah, no.
So which Sumeru bawd should I be saving for anyways?
Note: I only roll with my wiener, I don't give a shit about meta.
Kusanali and Nilou
they all small booba
Saving for dendro god then after her maybe the green zhongi.
new player here, exited to spend all my wishes on kazuha in couple of days, hopefully I'll win my first 50/50.
I was a new player when Kazuha first released. I lost the 50/50 and got Mona who is now my wife
But that’s not Mona.
Yes it is
Hey look, the trash outfit got a fanart.
wouldn't really be mad if I get any of the standard banner 5*, just a bit disappointed.
I would be fine with a Mona or a Jean to be honest, I would just save my pity for a Ganyu reroll if that happens.
will let mona win 50/50 any time
All the leaked Sumeru characters look like shit so I doubt many past characters will be forgotten
but Nilou, shes cool tho
Horrible tastes
kek
4 looks good 3 look awful.
SOVL
>Furry
>Female Baizhu
>Brown goddess
>Discount John Lee
>Fire Emblem character
>Zelda character
>Discount Klee
Literally only one good character
I hope they change the gray guy's face, it looks too close to zhongli's.
shit
cute
shit
cool
cute
shit
cute
you mean
>doesn’t like brown cat girl or slime rider israelite
I love the fire emblem girl, will roll and coom to
Not that I wish to imply it would be GI specific but how do you see embedded shit on images? Don't feel like playing Russian roulette with otherwise fine images saved from here again.
Yep, it's summer alright.
I'm serious. I recently got a 3 day ban for unknowingly posting an image with something extra in them. I thought this site straight up blocked those. Apparently not anymore.
>all the good designs are 4* and will be put on the male banners who are 5*
The absolute state of s*meru
Why even ask this shit, the BP hasn't changed for a year
They won't even change the fricking cutscene
>BP will now include recolored skins and weapons
>last for 60 days
>fives times as long to complete it
Nilibros, we won...
the one and only that will hit top 5 sell
>One Japanese Kusae-girl fanart reached a 100k likes despite character not even being unveiled
Kusae-girl haters in shambles
Kusoe-girl*
>Kusoe-girl is just green Klee
>even in memes shes used the same way
Thanks anon
Does she have horns or is that just her headdress? This is important
no way it has to be real else i riot
Lorewise the horns are probably part of her head, modelwise they are just attached to the headdress and not the head directly
I wish all Kazuha wanters a very pleasant day
There seem to be a lot of Shenhe experts here so I'll ask;
Is it even remotely worth it to try and get decent crit rate/dmg on her? Or should I just go full ATK? (with enough ER ofc)
if you're having ER issues just give her favonius lance, being able to use burst off CD is more important than having damage per screenshot
in shenhe teams you'll certainly have cryo resonance so having crit rate isn't very important but if you're running fav you might want to have sooooome of that
her cdmg doesn't matter unless you're trying to like, use chongyun and proc her own damage with her but that feels like a waste of her potential
It's up to you whether it's worth it or not but doing more damage does in fact do more damage. Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
congratulations on making the most worthless post in this thread
Thanks for asking that moronic question.
what do you mean? We'll always go back to Liyue.
I WANT TO FRICK KLEE
Left behind again, but not forgotten.
Her circumstances are even worse than last time.
>metagay vs pedogays vs waifugays
Im rolling for her
lets see those teapots
I hope they make it more interesting someday
what the frick, how
clipping glitch
oil. the chasm already empty. need a new place to such
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV175411Q78v
that's nothing, look at this
need the coins too
did raiden get changed from her leaks? i'm gonna be immeasurably angry if they do anything to kusanali
She did get some minor changes, like changing the pattern on her outfit and adding a shoulder guard, but nothing major.
No. Everyone was calling her Ying'er back then, now no one calls her that
we need dendro sumeru big booba
and no more fury
Imagine a threesome with them
God
Shenehe will always have a spot in my teams with Mona regardless of the hags being released
i will use all the hags with Shenhe
I tried to use rosaria/mona/sucrose/shenhe but theres no way to not slowly die with bo shield or heals so now ive settled to rosaria/jean/yelan/shenhe. I really want to use mona with shenhe because the damage is excellent but no protections is too high risk even on freeze comps
Yea you right and it sucks. I'm waiting for a Kokomi run again to sadly replace Mona in my main team but I will be sure to include her in my 2nd team.
JUST LET ME ROLL FOR MORE RAIDEN PLEASE
you will add the joos on your team. cuz you lost 50/50 kuki to itto. enjoy
>sumeru
>inspired by ancient Sumer and middle East
>characters are all white
Explain
>there's no white people in the middle east
American?
>inspired by
Is that a tick in his nostril?
You'll get your dark skinned cuties later, on one of the trailers they showcased a brown gremlin
You know what I find funny? The people saying that there are white people on middle East are using the same arguments the people they don't like use when there are brown people in a place where they aren't predominant. Just go into any thread about the newest GoW, it's the same shit, but reverse.
5/7 bait
You're right, I simply don't like ugly Black folk
Cope
>The people saying that there are white
if by white you mean blondes and blue eyes? they exist but very rare
if we're talking about skin color then yes the majorities are white especially the women since they dont go out of the house as often as men here in KSA
I honestly don't get you guys obsession with brown people. I'm brazilian and brown people aren't anything special. In fact, most are ugly as shit.
>Like the aesthetic of genshin
>Download for pc
>No free summon bonus for pc for some reason but whatever
>No luck with summons that the game gave me to start
>Takes forever to grind for more summons
I want to like this game but I don't want to keep making new accounts just to have a chance at actually fun characters.
>play it for the waifus
>resist the urge to use any of the guys
>never pull for guys
>miss out on meta comps
>don't care, still having fun
no you cant cant fun. you just cant. aaaaaaaaaaa
>only roll good characters
>have fun
can itto frick off already
>5 more days till we get new Fish costume because this gay and his useless tard wrangler won't frick off
5 dayse + 2 weeks of timegating before you can actually get it
Let's post how bad gameplay is in this game.
>private server
>all character probably c6 r5
>hur dur gameplay bad
He posts this bait in every thread he sees. Don't bother.
Yes, I know this is p2w as well and that c0r1 will just do the same stuff but for longer time because he didn't pay.
This looks cool as frick. Okay, I will try this game.
It would take f2ps like 2 years to reach this power and they'd feel good about it..
why does he turn into a girl
You can swap characters on the fly.
he uses the power of magic, troony magic
Because it's a "four dudes in a row" genre game like might and magic.
The fact that you need to complete this domain 30 000 times to get ONE good artifact out of it means having an easy and lazy way to do it is appreciated
Fricking shooting with Ganyu to the ground to miss 30% of damage from the initial hit. Fricking moron. Also extremely shit damage. Rope yourself private server gay
I just stand in one place, shoot at the ground in one point and everything dies, oh man what a game you play lmao
>private server/pays to win
>what a game you play lmao
absolute moron
>makes no actual point
>posts ad
Oh frick
this might go over your head, but the only reason someone would spend money on this PVE game is to make things easier.
normal human beings can beat all content with FREE characters. which means that someone who NEEDS c6r5 is an actual mental cripple.
so, when you say shit is unfun and easy, because your c6r5 character does so much damage, it's because you're moronic.
This game has a huge disparity between new people/people who don't know how character builds work to people who look shit up. I have never bought a welkin and I think the game is easy to the point of being boring babby shit
yes, it's a phone game for kids. what kind of a neckbeard would try to minmax something designed for kids.
>the only reason someone would spend money
If he is gambling addict and wants a weapon/character. Because all this game has is slot machine and chores aka quest+chest+daily to get to slots.
>normal human beings can beat
>Yeah, you can get this top star C6 as f2p, but it will take months and years of chores to do so
>normal human beings can get 5 star C6
And so on
>shit is unfun and easy
>because your c6r5 character does so much damage
No, shit is unfun because gameplay is shit, if I change them from c6r5 to c0r1 I'll do exactly the same stuff but it will take longer and easy is because it's a p2w game with shallow and hollow gameplay.
Holy shit, that looks absolutely amazing.
If course it does, I am the best player in this game and in cookie clicker after all.
What??
Why are you still responding to the blatant shitposter?
Why are you mad that people like how I trash this game?
Yes, now you are talking to the best genshin player to date.
I half expected the dragon's dogma blackface meme here
OH SHIT ALL OF HER FANARTS ARE GREAT. IM SAVING THIS WHOLE THREAD
Yelan is kinda ugly though
great. then we will be matching couples
she needs more doujins before that
Nilou, the red hair girl, is most likely gonna be the Ganyu & Raiden of Sumeru
did you see the MANA release
Yes but itsn not really a doujin, just one animated gif also no gangbang
but maybe there is more? he usually do 4 parts
Would genshin become EOS because of the bankruptcy from making another rate up banner for 5* standard characters? I don't see any other reasons of holding out their accessibility for years to newbies and extremely bad luck fans.
They really should put Venti or Childe in the 50/50 pool
The desperation can drive some people to waste more primos/money at any time so there's no reason to give them a rate-up. If it was a common thing then even those desperate will wait/save free gems and get their sought after character guaranteed(through pity). Some whales spend thousands just trying to get the base 4* cons from the standard banner since they're never on rate-up either, so it's working exactly as designed.
"Friendly gacha system" shills and "roll for who you like" advisors are entirely btfo'd by this argument alone.
>standard 5* characters
They're all mediocre or bad, you're not missing out.
What's with people's irrational hate for Yelan? She's always trash-talked in /gig/
Her boobs are too big
I love her design, it's honestly one of the best in genshin
Thread full of trannies and poorgays who shit on every 5*, especially one with big boobs and good in meta
bad personality, not very good looking compared to quality hags like sara and rosaria, but extremely op and permanent meta
>not very good looking
should've gone to specsavers
>bad personality
Only to complete morons who skip all dialogues
VERY homosexual post
If only there was a very specific group of fans of a singular character who shits on every new %* female that comes out...
doesn't apply in this case because yelan is the best thing to happen to that character since 1.3.
Old habits die hard
People prefer dicky over hags.
>/gig/
You have to go back
Hebe wife
Hebe>e-girl>hag
Shit taste.
I swear people didn't like armpits this much last year
What's triggered the sudden armpit love
Also backs as well for some reason
>What's triggered the sudden armpit love
"standard" hot things like big boobs, asses and so are being attacked and censored left and right, so people find alternatives
They are the only things genbabies have access to
Waifus aside, what are the leaked weapon banners in 2.8?
Freedom Sworn + Lost Prayer for the first half. We don't know what will be with Thundering Pulse for the second half
>no Raiden weapon
I guess Thundering Pulse for my Fish and Skyward Spine for Raiden/Xiangling works.
Tailored weapons only appear with their respective 5*. Otherwise it's a trash filler 5* weapon.
And that's what I hate about the current banner system if you're F2P or at least welkin—your wishes are split between the event character banner and that character's weapon banner.
Or just simply not roll weapon banner unless you have gems to spare and/or you really like the character
I really like Raiden and I want her to be at least C2, have her signature weapon and the right artifacts. And my next problem is FOMO. Save months worth of wishes for the next Raiden banner and miss out on the new girls, especially the Dendro ones.
>want to have whaleshit but isn't a whale
Well too fricking bad
sacred prayers + freedomsworn
thundering pulse + skyward spear
There's no new weapon other than the useless 4* reward sword
Still no Sumeru drip marketing?
No because they really want you to roll Kazuha.
>everyone wastes all their rolls on c4 kazuBlack person
>dendro comes out and makes him absolutely irrelevant
This is such an obvious trap.
>Natlan, Fontain, and Schneznya are all based off elements Kazuha can swirl and buff
>anon is conviced he won't be relevant because of an element that'll make it easier to reverse melt (cryo damage)
Dendro is going to be a sidegrade.
They open with a direct no frills DPS and a shitty giveaway subDPS, with no dendro support sets.
Burning? You can already Sunfire.
Intensified? I mean I guess you could use another way to buff Electro.
Overgrown? That's just fancy Overload.
The game hasn't had a meaningful powercreep after 2 years and Dendro won't be it either.
Burning looks like it'll be a lot more accessible than Sunfire tbh, especially if they're going to give us Collei for free who has AOE Dendro application on her burst
Yeah, of course. But my point is that Dendro will not push DPS curve in a noticeable way, instead just offering new gameplay styles. Lack of powercreep is actually part of FOMO model of this game when you think about it, if the next time you see your favorite character on a banner is 1 year later, then 1 year later that unit still better be good or nobody's going to care, and as we can see this model instead of constant number go up chase actually worked in the game's favor since it's earning so much.
Dendro will be absolutely broken and become the new meta. Mark my words.
>Dendro will be absolutely broken and become the new meta. Mark my words.
There are upcoming dendro artifact sets assuming the leaktrannies are correct
Also powercreep is definitely a real thing, you just don't feel it much because it's a slow process and game content is still too easy for it to matter
>powercreep
>when the most meta characters are from the game's launch
People will still be using Bennett in version 6.3 or whatever lmao
What about ayaka, or yelan, or raiden, are they from 1.0 too
Do people play klee and diluc these days or they have switched to Hu tao and other dps?
Yelan in some cases can be Xingqiu sidegrade.
Raiden is mostly balanced but it's not like she crept good 1.0 units out of the meta, she added to them.
You see the problem is that 1.0 didn't actually have that many good units and units that were thought to be good weren't. Diluc and Klee didn't get powercrept because they were already outclassed by Bennett and Xiangling to begin with. I guess if you want to like, super generalize then yes, there are now better units that there were at the start of the game but it's not like the DPS curve got pushed comparatively, there's just more ways to get to the current norm.
>old characters being replaced by new characters that fill the same role isn't powercreep
Remember the old morgana team about a year ago that metagays like to parade as the bread and butter that shit on all game content? Every single member in that team has been more or less replaced by a limited 5* character, if this isn't powercreep I don't know what is
>but Bennett
Him hasn't/doesn't get powercrept doesn't mean the game as a whole has none of it
>Morgana
You mean that team that was great against small, liftable mobs? Almost as it they fell off thanks to to very same reason why Venti fell off
>doesn't count
Even if small crowded enemies chambers come back people still wouldn't use that comp anymore
>meta changes due to different enemy lineup
>hurr durr powercreep
Guess Hu Tao powercrept Ayaka this Abyss
Read that post again
If they fill the Abyss with trash mobs, of course they will use it again, possibly modified with Shenhe instead of Diona since you're basically invincible with endless burst spamming
And kazuha instead of venti
And ayaka instead of ganyu because she deals more damage
And kokomi isntead of whoever the healer is for more comfort and consistent hydro
>clear is 3 seconds faster
Wow that sure was worth the 10s of thousands of primos and resin
>changing the goalpost again
3 second time savings isn't power creppnin the slightest, moron. Not like this game has leaderboards, which would all be dominated by Leviathan anyway
Whatever helps you sleep at night, by the way read this post again
Yeah bro a slow process. Can't wait for the Tsaritsa to come out and end up meta because she's 10 seconds faster than Ganyu
If you actually look it up the new team is much better clear time wise, and anyone playing right now has no reason to roll the old characters as opposed to new ones if they want a strong team
But like I said, game content is still too easy for it to matter, and whatever helps you sleep at night
>a few seconds
>in a game where f2ps are perfect clearing end game content with over a minute to spare on the timer
The only power creep exists in your head where you have to jerk each other off over clear times
Congrats on completely missing the point and repeating what I just said, idiot.
You can clear shit with Diluc in current year, but no one plays him because he has been powercrept by Hu Tao, it's a fact whether you like it or not.
>still jerki g off over clear times
Obviously you've never played a game where old characters are rendered unusable forcing you to roll on new ones just to compete. Power creep literally does not exist in any relevant way, it's just for morons like you to jerk off over bigger damage numbers and quicker clear times while the baby mode difficulty stays the same
>no it's not powercreep unless it's THIS bad
Last response moron, keep arguing with yourself
It's not pwer crepp because it had 0 meaningful effect
I don't think that powercreep is the way Mihoyo plans to make money. I think they're making Genshin a toolbox game, where characters are the best at dealing with a perticular type of content but really bad at others. This has the advantage of keeping older content still worth getting, but still having a reason for pulling for new characters.
They've already done this with Venti and shielders, you can expect them to do something similar to healers and reaction teams in future. They even found a way to make geo teams kinda meta.
This may be somewhat true but it's also just that they don't know shit about balancing, hence why you have characters like Shenhe and Yae who are totally worthless in near every respect and others like Bennett and Kazuha who are borderline broken.
He's already irrelevant, any anemo with VV can do his hob well enough. There is a reason he flopped the first time even though the chink metaBlack folk knew of his buffs day one.
>He's already irrelevant, any anemo with VV can do his hob well enough
He does VV AND provides you and equivalent of an extra elemental goblet. Plus light grouping on demand and a non-insignificant amount of swirl damage. For mono-element teams such as Freeze, Hyper Raiden, or hell even Klee since she's significantly easier to just play in mono Pyro, he's incomparable. He's only edged out by Sucrose in vape or taser, and the rest of Anemo don't offer damage buffs providing utility instead (stronger grouping or healing).
>provides you and equivalent of an extra elemental goblet
Does not justify a stop in team. The only places that's justified is really the mono pyro and phys teams. Pyro because it doesn't have an amplifier yet, and phys doesn't need. Freeze wants shenhe, ganyu, and hydro, there's no space for Kazuha. Hyper Raiden has Sara, Yae, and Benett. He's only really useful if you don't plan to roll many characters and hate sucrose for some reason.
>Hyper Raiden has Sara, Yae, and Benett
>Yae
DPS loss over Kazuha
lmao
> Freeze wants shenhe, ganyu, and hydro,
Ganyu Q provides less buff than Kazuha
I know you hate the leaf and all but objectively he's a good unit, if not a necessary one.
He's good, just doesn't justify the primos from a purely meta perspective, from which is the angle Oyohim are trying to sell him for a whole year. Whales will build better teams, poorgays should just use Sucrose. He seems to be a dev favorite though, which is why they stopped the drip marketing for this patch only, and I expect they'll continue to shill him even more like they do with Childe.
>Whales will build better teams
Except a lot of whales use him
>Whales will build better teams,
Majority of whales use Kazuha though so I don't know where you're going with that argument
Fake btw
How do you know? Show the real gameplay video then.
The shadows don't even match, it's from another game
And we've already seen what Sumeru really looks like, and none of these areas match anything
It's Kena Bridge of Spirits.
It's an alright game.
Looks pretty nice though, ngl
Beta starts next week, although there isn't much even left to drip at this point with the stolen devkit and all
They literally drip marketed Sumeru at the end of the last stream.
Drip marketing usually refers to revealing new characters on their Twitter right before the patch prior to those characters coming out goes live. They started it with Ayaka, Yoimiya, and Sayu, and did all throughout Inazuma
Just go the the leakers on twitter
none of the dendro characters appeal to me except candace but I might get dendro archon anyway
Will that forked private server ever be in a completed state? This game looks appealing to me just to explore but I will never take part in gacha bullshit where I only get to play characters I happen to roll. That sounds miserable.
New player, does the game hang on boot for anyone else? For a while I would get the hoyoverse splash but now i dont and the game doesn't respond for like 15-20 seconds then it goes to the genshin splash screen normally
Are you running toaster hardware? On PC Genshin likes to run off an SSD
For a new install it has more hangups as it tries to build its shader cache
Yes. I am on a toaster
I have it on super fast SSD, and my CPU is pretty fast too, but the game hangs for like 1-2 entire minutes on initial white screen. Reinstalling and wiping all cashes and registry didn't really help.
Thats exactly whats happening to me, r5 1600/1060 game on ssd
Updating my graphics drivers fixed it for a while but after a week or so it started hanging again, glad its not just me at least
Don't care
Pulling for Yoimiya
Out of my way weed smoking shits
>meta gays arguing
why are you all gay rolling for a male
Rolling for soul because you want to avoid being cringe = CRINGE
Rolling for cringe because you don't care if you're soul = SOVL
I roll for fun characters and aren't some sexually insecure troon
ironic when the gay who made this webm is literally a gay or a fujo
It's the only thing kazuhagays have left and not even that really. It will be really funny seeing he flop a second time.
Reminder to get the bugs
Always forgotten.
>arguments from people recomending you to pull kazuha
great addition to your roster
bis for freeze teams
amazing for open world exploration due to double jump
easy to build no need to waste much mats
works with the upcoming dendro element
will not be powercreeped for at leas a year more
>arguments from people skipping kazuha
YOU ARE homosexual IF YOU ROLL SKIP LIKE ME
Now you proceed to post 20 webms of kazuha jumping and killing overworld hilichurls
>actual arguments from people skipping kazuha:
>roll if you like him, but he's not necessary
You can scroll up and see how blatantly false that is
How is he necessary? Sucrose does the exact same thing.
Sucrose doesn't have nearly the same amount of CC with an elemental damage bonus on such a short cooldown
Not being a homosexual is a good argument bwo.
What are you going to do with your "meta" Kazukek?
Get 0 more primogems since anyone with a single braincell can already get 36*?
Roll for who you like, if you like Kekzuha, you're either a homosexual or a woman, if you roll him for meta, you are braindead moronic since meta doesn't matter in this piss easy game.
>here are some reason why you'd like Kazuha
>NOOOO UR A homosexual REEEEEEEE
if you like a twink you are a homo, thats a fact
I just recently got into the game. When can I try getting Yelan?
Her banner just passed, enjoy waiting 6 months for a rerun
buy an account with yelan on it
I just bought an account with Ganyu and put a lot of time into it. Don't feel like starting over with another bought account
youre in for a few month wait then
Guess I'm saving until she comes back then. I imagine she'd make a killer combo with Ganyu for constantly freezing people.
Not really. You have to be auto-attacking to keep applying hydro with Yelan.
Just wait then, she sold well so she's returning in some 3 or 4 months. She's not like Kazuha where Mihoyo needs to shill and edge him for a year straight.
go away, /gig/
no
I hope airbender boy is fun
is a full hag team possible?
Yelan should just be naked
Why do Kazuhagays even want him to sell anyway? He got more shilling this year than any character who sold better than him. If anything, charactergays should be wishing for their character to flop because that's when Mihoyo shills a character.
Hopefully the kazushill shit is over with this patch, every quest concerning him is a snoozefest
That, the length since his first banner and meta will make him one of the best-selling banners. He'll probably even reach Raiden's level. Meta makes bank.
>completely ignores the post
That's the joke, Kazukeks don't actually like the character, they just like the meta aspect of him (how he makes exploration better, how he makes combat easier), so they have to justify how they aren't moronic metakeks who only rolled/wants to roll him for meta reasons.
Seriously, when was the last time you heard a Kazukek claim they like him for his personality or design?
Anyone who has Kazuha rolled for him well before he was considered meta, they're just laughing at moronic doom posters
To be fair we had all that Inazuma and especially Raiden hype at the time so waifugays were saving up. It jut happens that male characters tend to be more meta while all the subsequent females save Raiden were average at best until Yelan.
Your Thoma? Your Itto? Real meta breakers right there bro
>Thoma
The exception, which you homosexuals love to cling to as proof of MHY not being biased towards males in meta.
>Itto
He does fine and along with Gorou pretty much saved Geo teams.
Kazuha, Itto, Gorou and Ayato, speaking of those since. They are rarer and I did say 'more' meta compared to the half-dozen mediocre female characters since.
Thoma is fricking great, and I'm tired of pretending he isn't.
Yanfei is better and you dint even need to level her talents or build stacks
And Thoma is much better when you build his talents and stacks.
Until he starts stealing vapes
Only if you are a complete moron.
Hu Tao alone has 3 sources of Pyro, adding a 4th is what complete morons do
>he is a shitter who can't use Thoma properly
Checks out.
>nooo you're just using him wrong
Thomagay cope os something else
The only real use i found to Thoma was with Yae as something similar to Fischl with Yoimiya, but with less range
He'll probably be aot more useful once Dendro comes out, right now his shield shield is mediocre with needing stacks and his Pyro application is unwanted
he will automatically pull the main dps to fight up close fearlessly. and thats is a plus for projectile to travel in short distance. BUILD FOR AUTO DPS
no need to cope, He will get more user and you can stop train.
>I use xiao with normal attacks and he suck
>b-but you are supposed to use his plung-
>NOOOOOOOO YOU ARE COPING BECAUSE I USE HIM WRONG
Based moron.
>plays a completely unrelated character wrong
>somehow this makes Thoma good
>character is bad because I use him wrong
Ok, moron.
you speak like you can vapes every single hit. never mess up rotation. muss be fun to not have the freedom to do something else or use someone else cuz "muh lost a few vapes"
that chinese whales with auto ayaka plus 6c shenhe is way more fun than try to vape every single hits. keke
>ayacuck
>press Q to win
She's the definition of anti-fun. I was just pointing out how Thoma sucks in his own niche compared to a character that's supposed to be a Pyro DPS
What does this have to do with anything, you think Thoma is fun? The guy who press E for shield and press Q for more shield?
Shield layers are much more fun than just a shield. You know you are actually enforcing your shield every time you switch to support, instead of just "updating" it's timer like with other shielders. The fact that the shields don't stack in this game is so stupid.
What we really need is shield hp to show on the hp bar.
>Shield layers are much more fun than just a shield
I'd rather watch paint dry
Yeah, that's what you say when you use every other shielder.
>100k cows is bad
What¿
whaling doesn't count
>I whaled
I saved had like 40k gems and got lucky. I’m sorry you’re not blessed with good luck like me.
yes i love C6 Thoma and they can seethe about his weak shield when his burst can recreate shield while being off-field and give auto bonus.
>It jut happens that male characters tend to be more meta
Like... who?
-tao.
It's really only Kazuha, Bennet, Xingqiu, and Zhongli. And I'm pretty sure you need 8 characters for the Abyss and not 4
xq got outclasses by a hag anyway
Not really, they're usable on different teams
>Zhongli
>meta
*chortle*
20% power boost and being unkillable is very meta. Only think that can even effect zhongi is abyss wolves but you rarely see them and it still useful to have him.
>spent a yeah shilling him both from mihoyo and metahomosexuals
>wonder why people dislike the manlet
To be fair, it's strange Mihoyo insists on twinks. They don't have a established fanbase like the tall homos, they're as much as niche as the e-girl (actually even more so). Tall homos have the fujos and yumes, but twinks mostly have the female pedos. They're 'male kid' lite, which is a model that doesn't even exist for that same reason.
>e-girl
>niche
Nahida will be the absolute best-selling banner yet and you know it.
SHITlee flopped.
There's a reason every shounen protagonist is a 15yo manlet anon.
But this is not an anime is it? It's a pixel casino. The people who spend money is are not the regular shounen-enjoying people, they're the flooding-the-character-polls-with-letters kind of people.
You think people who watch anime are all 15yo boys?
Most are. Ganker and 2ch are not representative of the overall demographic.
Twinks arent really niche when you consider them as the default 'possibly gay, bottom boi'. Their fans are the same bunch that likes to portray them as sissies or traps, or in case of fujos, to be there as a target for taller homos.
>e-girl
>niche
What? e-girl is the biggest market ever.
any news on the 4 stars of the next banner?
I think it’s Heizou, Fisch, and Xinyan. I made the other two up just because they are in the event.
Thank god these threads stopped being rampant with Yelan secondary ERP. It was unbearable during her banner.
is there any character that is a straight up law enforcement? my dredd team needs a 4th character
>yelan, fed
>yanfei, lawyer
>heizou, detective
Did you forget about Sara?
sara is a general, not police
The war ended, policing is now her main job
>The war ended
did it really?
Tenryou commission is basically just a police force now. Shit, in the Irodori festival they were downgraded to event security
Wanted Thoma to be pyro Xingqiu, but realized his pyro application for reactions only allowed him to do the reaction.
bro i just want auto boost is that too much to ask.
As in normal attack boost? Yun Jin is better for that
why you have to be like this. you know you can use both right? there is nothing wrong stacking normal and charge attack. and he is a shield. now we need a healing character that also buff auto/charge as well. than you will have you full meme team. are you going to keep using bennett and kazu forever? I cant
His buff is a tiny buff at C6 which next to no one has since he's a relatively new character, he's also a male with a boring kit so there's no reason to use him outside of meta reason either
You can cope all you like but he's a badly designed character that no one wants
I think we can all agree that Shenhe is so fricking ugly...
I wish she was ugly, then it'd be easier to skip her because of how rubbish she is. Rolling for all of her cons and then also rolling for Ayaka and her cons is too much effort to make her decent.
I'm going to roll her when she reruns because she's so ugly that it'll make my Ayaka stronger. Y-Yeah.
objection!
Sean