>life is meaningless suffering
>destroy all life
>destroy all suffering
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>life is meaningless suffering. >destroy all life. >destroy all suffering
>life is meaningless suffering
>destroy all life
>destroy all suffering
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Life isn't meaningless, moron. Seymour was the original hapa school shooter.
>Life isn't meaningless
Cope. Nothing you will ever do will mean anything. We're plucked from the void and made to suffer for no reason.
Okay then, have a nice day right now.
I cannot self-terminate.
Because your inherent purpose (ie meaning) is self replication
>Because your inherent purpose (ie meaning) is self replication
Reproduction itself is meaningless. You are just perpetuating the cycle of suffering.
Suffering is designed to make you avoid things that could prevent you from reproduction. Your morality is false. Biology is undeniable.
>Suffering is designed to make you avoid things that could prevent you from reproduction
Designed by whom?
Who designed the brain tumor in the baby's head?
>Who designed the brain tumor in the baby's head?
The baby clearly manifested it, duh. Babys are moronic.
Semantic garbage, not an argument. Continue to live in denial.
Biology doesn’t wire you to reproduce. Biology wires you to have sex. Sex happens to lead to reproduction. Biology just creates pleasure/pain behavior incentives and automatic mental processes. There is no rational justification for any of it and therefore no meaning. If certain behaviors cause you to reproduce more often, then those behaviors will propagate in the gene pool for statistical reasons. None of it is intentioned
>reproduction, the most complex and wonderous process that was ever created in the entire universe
>"WAAAAAH ABOOBLOOOOO WAAAAAAH!!!"
I hate useless genetic dead-ends
Then allow me to help you! *Punches you*
harms many people, it harmed me
>okay then, detransition then (and stop opposing me)
How is it going to stop you from creating victims, groomer?
Meaning is something we project onto things. So the problem is you, not life itself.
>Meaning is something we project onto things
A worthless abstraction used to avoid having an existential crisis.
Deny the issue is in you and solve nothing. A rock has no sense of meaning, it is given to it by others.
Poetic excuses.
>no no no be depressed just like me!
you're not even arguing anymore, you just sound defeated
>suffering at all
skill issue
I’m having a blast!
Suffering is only objectionable because you have to experience it. Eliminating life to eliminate suffering is cutting off your head to save money on haircuts
>Suffering is only objectionable because you have to experience
The negative valence to experience/sentience is what suffering itself is. Of course that without sentience suffering cannot occur.
>Eliminating life to eliminate suffering is cutting off your head to save money on haircuts
What are heads for? What is the issue with an Universe lacking any heads?
>What are heads for? What is the issue with an Universe lacking any heads?
The point of the analogy was that if you’re dead, you can’t spend money, so it’s a stupid way to cut the cost of haircuts. Your solution to the problem makes the point of solving the problem irrelevant.
Other analogies I might have used include
>burning down your house to stop the roof from leaking
>driving your car off a cliff because it’s almost out of gas
>Your solution to the problem makes the point of solving the problem irrelevant.
Life itself is the source of ALL problems.
Emo was NEVER cool. Seymour is the homosexual crying in the corner saying "life is pointless."
One must imagine Sisyphus happy, Seymour.
rick and morty redditor tier atheist logic
You don't want to be on the same spiritual level as a redditor do you?
Seymour was the product of a flawed upper class which distorted his world view. His entire childhood basically set him up as a ticking time bomb waiting to violently explode, because he genuinely could not understand the lives of other people after the suffering he experienced.
The flaw is in assuming the suffering stops once you're dead. Especially moronic given the metaphysics of the world he's in. The fayth are technically dead yet they clearly tire of being summoned, then there's the whole pyreflies and farplane, who knows what goes on in their afterlife.
if life is meangless, why not just have fun and frick b***hes until the end of time?
Because hedonism is meaningless as well.
but it feels good.
>1. Presumes death ends suffering
>2. Presumes suffering is undesirable
>3. Presumes destroying all life is achievable
>4. Presumes the totality of suffering is contained within the totality of life
>5. Presumes suffering is meaningless
>>1. Presumes death ends suffering
Of course it is. The oblivion that you "experienced" before birth is all that awaits you upon death. Anything else is religios or pseud cope.
homie that ain't how FFX works. Play the fricking game.
>Everyone is now unsent
>it's all meaingless
that doesn't matter
OP a gay as always, if you're so right then have a nice day and leave others in meaningless misery as you see it. You don't have the right to decide if any life other than you deserves to live.
Secular humanists literally can't refute him with facts and logic so all they do is name calling lol
>Secular humanists
most pathetic attempt at making fun of someones view ever
>you think we humans should take matters in our own hands instead of waiting for big daddy from the sky to carry us? heh, your ar'e a humanist!
Holy frick do you actually think "secular humanist" is a pejorative invented by its opponents
Yes, that is exactly what happened.
The church already imposes the idea that the chicken came first before the egg and says Secular Humanists have "Christian values without faith" no one gives a frick if you use this as derogatory because you're already disingenuous enough to think these "values" didn't exist and cannot exist without christian faith.
>ignoring all the counterpoints being said and framing it as "all they do is name calling lol!!!!"
>posts philosopher instead of addressing said ignored counterpoints
This whole discussion is disingenuous if you're going to keep doing this shit.
>slowly stab you with a knife over and over
>"AAAAA NO PLEASE IT HURTS I DONT WANNA DIEEEE"
Huh
>what's addiction?
>if you're so right then have a nice day and leave others in meaningless misery as you see it
see
>You don't have the right to decide if any life other than you deserves to live.
You don't have the right to decide for others by imposing life on them.
The
post doesn't refute anything I said, as a society we try to mitigate any kind of harm that could come our way, you simply gave an example of something that still needs to be regulated properly but we didn't manage to do it due to multiple factors. If something close to a utopia without misery is what you want then consider helping building it, instead of disregarding all life as inherently harmful and meaningless.
>You don't have the right to decide for others by imposing life on them.
Life self replicates, it is an axiom that defines it. You're not imposing life on """them""" the replication is literally a part of you that then becomes its own entity, essencially you gift life to a future individual that can then choose what to do with it. What Seymour wants to do is the opposite, expunge life from all individuals regardless of their views because they're "inherently harmful".
>as a society we try to mitigate any kind of harm that could come our way, you simply gave an example of something that still needs to be regulated properly
Yes, that example is procreation.
>If something close to a utopia without misery is what you want then consider helping building it, instead of disregarding all life as inherently harmful and meaningless.
>what's 2+2? and don't answer 4
>You're not imposing life on """them"""
Clueless
>essencially
ESL
>you gift life to a future individual
Who asked? Are there lines of soul jars outside the universe with pre-beings pounding on spirit-proof glass screeching "I WANT TO BE BORN!"?
>that can then choose what to do with it
That is FORCED to choose what to do with it, with all the options being different flavors of shit
Seymour there's a fire in your kitchen!
The game never explains what the difference is between being alive and being unsent, in terms of the moment-to-moment experience. Like would you still feel the same as an unsent? It seems possible, considering there are people who go years without realizing they're unsent. It seems like the main downside would be metaphysical.
Everyone becomes fiends and a new form of suffering is brought about because this fricking moron just assumes people will be like Mica and Auron without any possibility that they would have lingering resentments.
The amount of suffering remains with a net positive increase and therefore he's a moron who had to be put down for his own good.
>Guitar riff starts
can't
>what's 2+2? and don't answer 4
I acknowledge that we can never reach a truly perfect utopia if this is what you mean. There will always be suffering yes, but we can find meaning and happiness from that suffering, as we can today.
>Clueless
>That is FORCED
Everytime you give a gift to someone, you're forcing them to either accept the gift or refuse it yes. But they still have a choice.
>ESL
yeah sorry classic mistake of forgetting anglos use T for a sound that doesn't match sometimes.
>Are there lines of soul jars outside the universe
I don't know that there is a soul, regardless of its existence, a new individual is always a positive regardless of their misery, because they can contribute to our existence in many ways that can shape our views and help mitigate our misery.
>with all the options being different flavors of shit
I'm not surprised you can make an argument like this if you can't truly find your own meaning and happiness within the existence that is your life.
For me I am not pro or anti natalist. If people want to have kids that's fine but I'm not upset at ones that don't. I'm not freaking out over muh birth rates either, they will balance out over time. There's already lots of people.
there are no people at all in the western world minus all shitskins
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