I wasn't aware of that. New Linux kernel versions and mesa versions are often back ported to backports during the life of a stable release. I don't think mesa was back ported for the current old stable.
Linux 6.3 isn't uploaded to Debian backports for the current Debian stable yet. New kernels are almost always uploaded to backports. As you can see in the image the old stable version had 5.10 as default but 6.1 in backports.
Tip: If you use testing rather than sid you get everything uploaded to sid that don't get caught introducing serious new bugs the around two weeks it takes a package to migrate from sid to testing.
I like Debian. Technically my Debian install is 15 years old. Yes, I've upgraded hardware, but I've always done a direct copy of the file system when I get new hard drives and incrementally upgraded as time progresses. To each his own, though.
i've been an arch kinda guy for well over a decade
only recently started gaymen with a colleague of mine and building a new computer soon
getting the jitters only thinking of making the switch to fedora...
is it really worth it?
Keep using Arch, you're already used to it.
Fedora is also under the magnifying glass of IBM ever since redhat got acquired in 2019. Everybody knows what IBM is good at - or not good at, rather.
Not really. I use fedora on my laptop and arch on my desktop. Fedora is good for a mostly just werks experience apart from needing rpm fusion for steam and mesa-freeworld. It also has some concessions in favour of security over performance.
Debian on my laptop would be a bit of a PITA.
I need linux 6.3 for amd pstate epp and in the future the latest TLP to manage epp. Not to mention gnome 44 is a requirement for filepicker thumbnails.
IIRC my only option would be sid which I'd rather not deal with.
I used Fedora for years and I hate how it has no packages, forcing you to use either flatpak or copr both of which are shit. Even fricking debian is better than fedora.
For gaming, it's probably Arch Linux or anything based on it.
Have you updated Windows recently? Did you take time to turn off the ads / suggestions / pride flags / etc and disable all background processes again? Have you updated Windows software recently?
Did I say performance? You should disable stuff you don't use to reduce your computer's attack surface. You should disable the pride flag to reduce the chance of demons being summoned.
There's no point in being disingenuous about windows, everyone has windows so they know you're making up shit and exaggerating because linux can't be good so you have to pretend windows is worse
I have the misfortune of having Windows installed on a work computer. Each time I boot into it it will waste a lot of time on updates. I haven't bothered to learn how to remove the gay stuff or to disable useless the background stuff but I have been told you must do it again each time you upgrade. When Windows finally is done updating (and rebooting and rebooting and rebooting) I have to individually update each piece of software I use.
On GNU/Linux I get everything - OS and all software installed via the repos - updated at once. If the kernel is updated I have to reboot.
This may seem easy and not a waste of time to you as you use Windows but to a non Windows user it is a nightmare. The fact that you already know Windows and may have a bunch of workarounds doesn't help me when I have to use it. Searching for documentation about Windows gives cvrappy low quality results.
On the positive side MS really improved the Windows terminal experience during Windows 10. It used to be just as bad as the updates.
skip the first 3 branches, move the puck left at the T intersection, then right at the next one, then down followed by the right again.
it is literally 5 moves, if you can't manage and practice 5 moves you are literal sub 80 iq. just because something looks complicated it doesn't mean it is.
Seconding this homie. Garuda is excellent and sets all the gamer shit up for you.
Just make sure to go into the options and change that hideous default mouse cursor.
>Garuda
If you're going to use an Indian OS, just stick with Microsoft, it's pajeets from top to bottom, from the CEO to the bottom feeder customer service if it isn't automated yet.
>Garuda
If you're going to use an Indian OS, just stick with Microsoft, it's pajeets from top to bottom, from the CEO to the bottom feeder customer service if it isn't automated yet.
Garuda had a problem in the past where it erased the main partition disk.
It got fixed after 1/3 days, but something like that is unacceptable from a serious distro.
>Garuda had a problem in the past where it erased the main partition disk.
I would stay away from Garuda simply because a leaf defended the pajeet who actually did apologize for that terrible mistake. Deleting everybody's home directory after pushing an update is not a good sign for the future.
Garuda is based on Arch. Its not horrid (though I do wish they'd fix their Piped instance which never seems to fricking work), but you'd be fine with a lot of other Arch distros too that dont' do things like make BTRFS the main file system. BTRFS is sort of like ZFS but its not as mature and has some great features for stuff like server/NAS storage but can have some issues with using it as a desktop OS etc.
Arch is probably one of the best these days for gaming because there are times that you need a new version of something and need everything else to be updated or compatible with it ASAP, which lends itself well to Arch's rolling release schedule. However, I generally like those that are compatible with Arch's native repos (ie EndeavourOS ) as opposed to those that only use AUR and have their own repos (Manjaro etc). Still these aren't big issues either way, but Arch is probably one of the better options and even Valve knows it as its the new basis for SteamOS currently being beta'd of a sort on thhe Deck.
I wouldnt never run a small distro to begin with but this one is made by pajeets who somehow accidentally deleted your home folder when you disabled HiDPI.
I use Linux Mint. I've also started using flatpaks more recently to get programs that's newer than what's available in Mint's regular packages. I downloaded Retroarch, mGBA, and PCSX2 through flatpaks and all work wonderfully.
Gentoo is basically only good if the level of control you get from AUR pkgbuilds is insufficient for your use case But yeah, I also use Gentoo
Is Nix OS any good?
I would honestly recommend Gentoo over Nix, Nix is for freaks who like functional programming dialects such as LISP. It's just as controllable as Gentoo but the way certain things are done makes it kind of painful. Adding a single patch to a package, for example, requires about ten lines of boilerplate code instead of just dropping a file /etc/portage/patches/<atom>
You can always install Nix on whatever distro you're running that isn't Nix if you want to try it or need it for some moronic thing that only builds using it; Nix always lives in /nix and is isolated from everything else, so you can have both.
I want to get into Gentoo to learn more and really fine tune while minimizing attack surfaces, but I don’t think I have the requisite skills/knowledge. I migrated from W7 to Kubuntu 3 years ago or so and haven’t done much learning. I read the Schott’s ebook from linuxcommand but forgot a good bit of it, I guess because I didn’t “do” much since it really lacks in-depth exercises. Would you have any suggestions? Should I just take the plunge or are there better distros to try as a middle ground?
Just jump in honestly, I suggest installing Gentoo in a VM first. I did it and I've been learning as I go, and doing just fine. Just make sure to actually take in the knowledge when doing stuff, don't just copy&paste blindly. Look at the command and the arguments etc. I don't think you'll get intentionally malicious advice like rm -rf ~ or whatever, it's purely for understanding what commands do. Maybe even write them down in some sort of personal wiki if you think you'll forget, that's what I do with some more common but not everyday commands I use.
Not that anon, but like
Why
Why go through all this trouble to use gentoo? What benefits does it give you beyond bragging rights over other distros? Other linux distros are not nearly as much of a needy pain in the ass.
The other day I got a taste of what compiling from source was like for dolphin emulator's development version since a friend wanted to play netplay with me and insisted it HAD to be the dev version of dolphin, and the process of compiling from source was such a pain in the ass to learn, this whole time I was thinking "Is this what gentoo users have to do like, all the time? How awful, I can't imagine not just typing sudo pacman -S and just getting something near instantly."
It's not really that annoying once you get used to it and learn some of the quirks. I think the benefits outweigh the cost personally. Portage makes it a lot easier too. I literally just type sudo emerge package and it installs like any normal package manager. It abstracts most of the annoying part like getting dependencies and reading the instructions for the stupid build system that this one program uses.
What's really standout about Portage is all the features that make my life so much easier, you wanted to compile dolphin's latest version from source? All I have to do is go to /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords and add 'games-emulation/dolphin **' and now Portage will install the "live" build, what would probably be called dolphin-git on the AUR, it's the most up-to-date commit and it integrates right into the default package manager. I've found that after going through the trouble of setting up Gentoo it's very smooth compared to most other distros I've used.
i went mint - arch - gentoo over the course of maybe 2 months and have been on gentoo ever since, its really not that hard it has a shitton of documentations and almost every problem you have someone else has had and when you get to the point of obscure problems youll already know what you are doing
Yes. Livin the nightmare, baby.
To be honest I kind of wish I had just stuck with the standard -march=native -O2 but I'm in too deep now to stop and my package.env is filled with workarounds. Would not recommend unless you're autistic, it's not worth the 3% perf gain.
11 months ago
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I only had to disable mold on 5 ebuilds and disable lto on 5 currently
not that bad really for 1518 emerged packages
11 months ago
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Most of the stuff in gentoo and guru is fine. It's when you start getting into user overlays that stuff tends to break horribly with LTO or mold.
11 months ago
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mold list: >sandbox, glibc, spice-gtk, dose3, nodejs
lto list: >libreoffice, libomp, mingw64-toolchain, rocm-smi, llvm
am using quite a few user repos including my own for stuff that doesn't get updated often >4nykey, brother-overlay, farmboy0, librewolf, guru, lto-overlay, mv, robertgzr, steam-overlay, tatsh-overlay, torbrowser
but do note that I only let specific packages in via package.unmask so that helps from other random shit coming in that breaks things in a cascade
11 months ago
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Yeah, that mold list is all stuff I also have worked around. Also these, can't remember WHAT was going wrong but I disabled it for some reason on these: >openjdk, efivar, protobuf, protobuf-python, mongodb, mono, cemu, godot, lapack, rpcs3, electron
To save my sanity I've been just reverting to basic CFLAGS instead of disabling LTO specifically (I'm using -Ofast) so I couldn't tell you which actually have LTO problems. My revert-to-basic-cflags list is 34 entries long though.
And I'm also using quite a few overlays, which line up about halfway with yours but I have about four more. I'm not actually using lto-overlay beyond having it cloned to check the list of workarounds now and then because I don't like how mv-bashrc works
My local overlay is also a huge disorganized mess and my user patches is also large with like forty different patchsets I need to rebase now and then, mostly because on one of my machines I refuse to let dbus anywhere near it which is pretty hard nowadays
If you just wanna use your computer and play videogames as easy as possible? (You will still have to tinker sometimes.) Just use Mint. Flatpak got you covered. Get the Cinnamon version. (Xfce is fine, but it has problems with flat mouse inputs and I feel like it's just not as smooth as Cinnamon or KDE.
Do you want all that with more possibilites and you actually like to tinker around? Get EndevourOS with KDE Plasma.
>export __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=1 >export __GL_SYNC_DISPLAY_DEVICE=DisplayPort-0
give these a try in your .profile
change the device to match your main monitor of course, can use xrandr to see device names (if on X11)
it depends
both drivers can have issues depending on how bleeding-edge you are hardware-wise or how unlucky you are with a specific card
Nvidia features pretty much all work on Linux just fine for modern cards
oh and one last thing to check is to make sure your main monitor has the "Primary" flag set
not sure what DE you're on but for me I set that via xrandr in i3wm or output in sway
nvidia-xserver-settings should have a checkbox somewhere if you're using that for your xorg configs
VR works but needs fixing from Valve as the overlay is glitchy/awful in general
VR games generally work just fine for both GPU vendors in my experience but I have heard that nvidia drivers past 525 broke steamvr
11 months ago
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Fair, it's just most issues I hear tend to be from Nvidia but that could just be that they're used more.
I'm using a Quest 2 which from what I've heard shits the bed with anything amd visually due to shit video encoding.
11 months ago
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nvidia modules not being already in the kernel you use can cause hiccups for some users who don't have the module-rebuild process automated or don't know how to fix it from a simple cmdline environment
most distros should have it figured out by now but that's about the worst I saw (driver not loading and just requiring me to rebuild them into the kernel modules and updating grub)
for Quest 2 you'd want to run Nightly ALVR and disable Vulkan Async in SteamVR
you'll actually have a better overlay experience in SteamVR than Index users after doing this but yeah I've heard the encoders used on AMD aren't as nice for the streaming to it
haven't touched my Quest(s) in ages to try them on RDNA3 or Linux
11 months ago
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Maybe the nightly alvr is what I'm missing, I heard stories of people using the regular and getting horrible performance.
11 months ago
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i wouldn't doubt subpar performance on AMD since their video decoding seems to generally be better
h264 on RDNA3 is a mess decoding-wise, don't think I've been using the encoder cause I was scared of it also being bad and am just waiting for AV1
uh probably not but don't quote me on that since I know most modern gpus have had av1 decoding support
I know VD has some new 10bit encoder stuff they threw in but that's not Linux compatible
I'm waiting for AV1 for obs-studio usage 🙁
11 months ago
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I might bite the bullet and pay for virtual desktop instead of using the oculus one, my local network could do with an upgrade first.
I thought they added that in May to obs?
11 months ago
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>I thought they added that in May to obs?
for Windows, yea :^)
11 months ago
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Thanks anon. I'm looking at getting a 4090 once the Bigscreen VR headset lands so I can play Fallout 4 and Skyrim in VR at non-bad framerates. I hope that the card won't be too much of a downgrade from my 6800xt.
11 months ago
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early testers haven't gotten Beyond working yet on Linux but i'm hoping it should be fine with a little bit of begging Valve
Fedora Silverblue or SuSE MicroOS might be a lot more practical for simple up to date desktop+gaming if you want to fall for the immutable layered OS meme.
NixOS is great but it can be a bit extreme for desktop use. I never bothered with home-manager because managing my entire desktop config through nix language is just too much of a pain in the ass. Haven't touched flakes either, don't really see any reason to.
They don't always play nice when unpacking on Linux. Try using DODI if you still want to use them, it's the one that has worked for me on Linux. Nowadays I just use cs.rin.ru though.
It's not a hard rule, but they tend to be coded in a way they either need extra dependencies which is an extra step, or just don't work. Or appear to work but fail in the middle of it. I'm the end a good chunk of repacks work, but another chunk don't, and I'd rather sidestep the whole affair completely
Latest proton-ge.
For non-steam games I use wine-staging with a few extra patches (+dxvk and vkd3d-proton obviously) and wine-proton if that fails because it's usually more reliable than the previous stable version of WINE.
I keep separate prefixes under ~/.prefixes depending on what games require.
why avoid repacks?
Repacks are shit, that's why. I always prefer signed GOG installers if available because you know they're clean and failing that other DRM-free sources. Clean steam files off rinru and manually appling goldberg or the denuvo crack should be your last choice.
Dual boot Artix GNU/Linux and Windows 10 LTSC using Ganker guides to debloat for your gaming/Adobe needs
Wine and Proton can only do so much, and when you're trying to run some niche proprietary modding program for a Windows-only game on GNU/Linux you're just asking for trouble >but my privac-
You carry a smartphone with you 24/7.
GNU/Linux is my main OS not solely because of privacy (though it's nice) because it's less of a headache and far more extensible for practical use, but if you tinker it right Windows is fine, albeit with some nuisance
If it's a smartphone it's compromised period no matter what CFW you're using, triangulating your location at all times is how a cell network works to begin with
There are multiple reasons to not like it but most people that have issues with it is due to Systemd not following UNIX philosophy or it's horrible start-stop daemon but if you didnt know anything about it you may as well have installed Arch over Artix and saved yourself any potential future compability issues.
Question. How do I install stuff via git? I do use "git clone" along with the link I am downloading from with the command and after that what are the next steps to do to install it? I tried looking up how to do and I get nothing. I am using Arch Linux. Is there some other thing I can use besides git which downloads the file and then installs immediately?
Depends on what you're installing.
Git repositories tend to be used for source code, so you're often going to have to compile it. On the Git page or in the README.md, check for build instructions
Running the "git clone <URL>" command will get you the source code, and then the way you compile and install it is entirely 100% dependent on the specifics of the project and thus there's no sense in asking for generic instructions. If a project's developers expect you to compile it yourself, there should be instructions on the README and that should be visible on the main page of the repo if it's hosted on GitHub or GitLab.
Projects which have matured beyond the early development phase will often have pre-compiled releases you can just download and install, instead of compiling shit yourself. On the main page of a GitHub repo, you may see a "releases" section on the right-hand sidebar, which will show the latest release. For example, here's the latest release of DevilutionX: >https://github.com/diasurgical/devilutionX/releases/tag/1.5.0
Scroll down to the Assets section and there are packages to download. The one I'm about to download from there is "devilutionx-linux-x86_64.tar.xz", and I'm going to install it just by unpacking with "tar -xJf" or whatever and then dropping the executable and other files where I want them. If installing a pre-compiled release is more difficult than that, the README should have instructions for that too.
two years ago I set up single GPU passthrough on a VM, it was a pain to set up and the stop script didn't work properly (that's on me though)
it was very much not worth the effort for me
probably better with a second gpu
I've been using endeavourOS for like 5 months, but is there any real difference between a clean eOS and Arch Install? I feel like every time I need to figure out how to do something, I'm just googling how to do it in Arch because eOS is based on Arch anyway.
EndeavorOS is supposed to be close to Arch on purpose
it doesn't do the repo holding shit that Manjaro does that breaks AUR for a lot of users
you shouldn't need to install base Arch at all since you can just remove anything you don't like
it has an extra repo with a few extra packages but they are pretty much the same. that said, it does has its own forum which you should use over arch's, in arch you're expected to install the system yourself and have a basic understanding how things work so if you ask dumb shit as a newbie you'll get shot down in their forums while eos is more accommodating as it was trying to be easier to begin with.
I would appreciate some puzzle game recommendations, either 2D or 3D is fine. baba, pattrick's parabox, zachtronics stuff, antichamber, portal, superliminal, talos, baba,pedestrian... played all those and probably more I already forgot
it wasn't eve a new ip, there's some guy that posts for over trying to push troony shit. Even when his shit gets deleted, a new ip ultimately appears pushing the same things, so the only technological competency they seem to have is changing their ip.
Every distro breaks constantly with Nvidia. Welcome to proprietary shit drivers, enjoy your stay. Maybe nvk will change the situation for the better eventually.
>Steam OS 3, where the frick is it?
On my Steam Deck. You living under a rock? >Stop being allergic to the number 3
They obviously aren't, because 3.0 is literally the version Steam Deck uses.
Noooooo I don't wanna install anything. Let Gaben do it for me. I would even be fine with an automated installer that works like a virus. I want to hit Enter button = get OS right away.
Guess he wants a general release, even though it's not well suited for desktop computers
Release it on PC, not on a handheld. Better yet, sell AMD pre-builts assembled at a Valve factory instead of letting other OEMs do it to bypass Microshart from playing dirty games under the table again like they did with Steam Machines. And don't give me Holo ISO.
Yeah, and I'm using Linux Mint 21.1 Vera, not actually Linux Mint 21.1, right? Oh wait, never mind. That's the dumbest shit ever because Vera is just the codename for Linux Mint 21.1. Oh look, Holo is the codename for SteamOS 3. Wow it's almost as if things having codenames doesn't mean they don't count.
SteamOS 3 for Steam Deck is the only SteamOS 3 that exists because the third Debian-based turd was cancelled.
No shit. Holo is the codename for SteamOS 3 which has only been released for Steam Deck. That doesn't mean there's a "true" SteamOS 3 with no codename. This is it. If they make another then it'll be SteamOS 4, and it will probably be released only for Steam Deck 2, because Valve doesn't need to release a Linux distro for general desktop use, because people who want to use Linux are smart enough to install Steam.
11 months ago
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>that doesn't mean there is a true steamos 3
That is actually exactly what that means. It's the whole thing behind Valve saying the Steam Deck ISO isn't SteamOS 3 and they intended on releasing it after the big picture rework.
11 months ago
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>no source
11 months ago
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My source is Valve themselves dumbass, I understand that doesn't qualify as a valid source.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Okay. Steam Deck 2 is a laptop and my source is Valve. What, you want a link to the evidence? Just believe me. Valve told me, bro.
11 months ago
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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3297210455204349335 valve themselves have used 3 as the version you know
11 months ago
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Okay. That's a news post about SteamOS 3.2 update for Steam Deck. What point do you think you're making? In case you've already forgotten what conversation is happening here, I'm waiting for evidence that SteamOS 3 "Holo" isn't the real SteamOS 3.
you will NOT >use the vast majority of programs you need on a daily basis. some of them have 20 year old open source alternatives, no need for bloated ableton live or photoshop >play most of the games you love. if its not on linux, its probably chinkware spyware bloat garbage anyway >have sex. we need you in the fields arguing over linux distros soldier >have an enjoyable user experience. only a moronic normie would expect an operating system to be intuitive >use the drivers for any equipment or peripherals you need. imagine needing proprietary code just for hardware to work its better if it doesnt work at all >challenge trans identity. most of us are trans and trans women are women and that is final. >yes I do dual boot into windows anytime I actually want to do anything
Don't be distro-hopping everywhere. If you must try a distro, use a VM or a 20+ collection of them through ventoy + liveusb on a big ass 128 USB thumbdrive.
If you use .deb, .snap, or anything related to GTK (GNOME) you're shit out of luck right now and have to wait for them to update their packages. If you're on KDE like Gaben intended (see: Steam Deck, it's KDE based) you will have zero problems aside from the usual memory hog issues you see on Google Chrome thanks to fricking electron.
If you use .deb, .snap, or anything related to GTK (GNOME) you're shit out of luck right now and have to wait for them to update their packages. If you're on KDE like Gaben intended (see: Steam Deck, it's KDE based) you will have zero problems aside from the usual memory hog issues you see on Google Chrome thanks to fricking electron.
I've been able to launch it, Steam via Apt, but the UI scaling is fricked. The fonts are super small, everything is just scaled incorrectly on my 4K. Using Kubuntu. It looks like sin, although the update itself looks fine.
I was thinking about trying switching to Flatpak.
I can't be the only one having this issue.
Figured it out. You can force scaling when launching Steam. Find your steam.desktop, mine was in /usr/share/applications. There you can find a line that starts with Exec=
I added the flag -forcedesktopscaling 2. Full thing looks like this >Exec=/usr/games/steam %U -forcedesktopscaling 2
If anyone's bored out of their mind and crazy enough to play this on linux, use the DX11 version. DX12 version stutters too much, probably an unreal engine problem + pajeet programming.
Yep, Raji.
The English used by the pajeets is grating, so I swapped audio to Hindi, kept the interface English, and turned on subtitles. Scenery is nice, combat is hack-and-dodge mashing buttons but will get you killed on hard mode, also any in-depth gobbleyasiatic of Indian myths is fortunately player-triggered only when you stand in front of a mural and not mandatory. I hate expositions like nonsensical diatribes in my videogames, unless it's the original Deus Ex.
Dxvk can usually compile shaders ahead of time, but that's not the case with dx12, devs have to compile those ahead of time on their own, so basically it needs a screen at the start to let you wait all the compilations out
>it likes to randomly crash
hmm, check if there are scary messages in dmesg or journalctl.
You can check the journalctl log fromt he previous session (aka the previous time you booted) with "journalctl -b -1"
And you can check them in reverse order (the last messages first) with "journalctl -rb -1"
also install the inxi package and annex the output of "inxi -G"
guys guys here's an idea: WINDOWS AHAHAHA how about you try something that doesn't break every minute im using windows btw if you're interested i like 7 but 10 works pretty good too
just played some Command & Conquer 3
brutal AI's double income cheat is really noticable
I need to get into Warzone 2100 again, that's closest open source RTS to C&C that I know of.
Snapshots, yes. For example OpenSUSE comes with a snapshot system that creates a new system snapshot every time you update and in case your current snapshot breaks you can boot a previous one. It only affects system files so your own files and configuration files stay the same... this is actually both good and bad. Sometimes new config files are not compatible with old software the snapshot might have. The solution is to do partial update for those programs or separate system and user software, for example by using flatpaks. It's easier to break a Linux than a Windows one because you have more control and new users should expect to break their systems so snapshots are definitely something to look into.
Fricked around with Manjaro a bit, but I didn't know how to make Autocad and Inventor work on it, and had an uni assignment for the week afterwards, so I went back to windows for the time being
I'm really liking manjaro or more realistically just KDE, I can't tell much of a difference from ubuntu variants I've tried besides typing pacman instead of apt in the terminal on occasion and I've been wanting to rejigger my hard drive space to try to use it as more of a daily driver. Is it feasible to move the root file system across drives without making a million massive headaches or should I just reinstall?
There was a group of dedicated endeavour fanboys that always shit on manjaro. You can tell they're endeavour users because they used to always pull up a list of mistakes manjaro had with stable updates; But they all stopped that real quick when endeavour shipped out a bricked grub update.
I'm really liking manjaro or more realistically just KDE, I can't tell much of a difference from ubuntu variants I've tried besides typing pacman instead of apt in the terminal on occasion and I've been wanting to rejigger my hard drive space to try to use it as more of a daily driver. Is it feasible to move the root file system across drives without making a million massive headaches or should I just reinstall?
I've been using Manjaro for quite some time now and it's fricking shit.
Shit just stops working randomly. The only reason why I still use this piece of shit OS on my desktop is because I'm too lazy to install Arch
There was a group of dedicated endeavour fanboys that always shit on manjaro. You can tell they're endeavour users because they used to always pull up a list of mistakes manjaro had with stable updates; But they all stopped that real quick when endeavour shipped out a bricked grub update.
Everyone who shits on Manjaro just tells you to use Arch though
Yes it's fine. You need to point your bootloader to the new drive and also edit /etc/fstab to match the partitions on the new drive, but besides that your software doesn't give a single frick about where the files are physically.
>that'll be 1.5GB RAM + tip
Except for xdg-portal support letting me use KDE's file picker when uploading files to my friends, this Steam update has been a disaster. I can't even turn off the notifications when wishlisted games go on sale because "steam servers are busy".
>nvidia's stable branch drivers aren't stable because...something something muh rolling release distros are a scam
Stable branch drivers anon. They're supposed to be stable regardless of what distro and package management scheme you're running.
Because of how ManguHud and OpenGL work. What do you want me to say?
Just use --dlsym and if that doesn't work then you'll just have to play the game without shit all over the screen like the good old days.
has anyone tried using proton for japanese erotic games and other erotic games made for windows?
does it work "better" than wine? is there any reason for these games to use either?
Launch Steam from your terminal and check what it's logging when the game crashes. You really gotta learn some basic troubleshooting ability homie, people won't magically know how to help you with moronic blanket statements like "game no work".
I've been on Bunsenlabs for years and probably should switch to something else for muh games because Debian. Most of the shit I throw at it works fine, but every once in a while I run into some hiccups.
I'm sure I could install anything and configure it with Openbox and shit to my liking but the Bunsen defaults are so good and I'm complacent.
not sure how it stacks up, but Steam OS has been perfectly fine for me. I get noticeable improvement in performance when in gaming mode, even with the potato specs the steam deck has. the only downside is it takes a moment to switch between gaming mode and desktop mode.
Linux Mint 21.1
don't touch the terminal unless you know what your doing (only way i found issues was ones i introduced myself when i was on 19.3)
add Lutris and Steam
now you have a very stable "it just works" way to play games on Linux with only really stuff that uses things like EasyAntiCheat giving you any issues, and requires little knowledge of the OS outside of what you would be familiar with from Windows anyway.
All this above >only way i found issues was ones i introduced myself when i was on 19.3
Which you can fix by reinstalling the system a year later (since you will frick some thins up still) and then have a true just werks experience >only really stuff that uses things like EasyAntiCheat giving you any issues
and devs making moronic updates to old games, any of those """""next-gen""""" dx12 + launcher updates always fricks something up, so always stay on the older version in steam settings for the game
hmm, for that anon that was having issues with pirated we love katamari, it seems that adding the pirated copy to steam and adding SteamDeck=1 to its launch parameters actually works lmao
I think the steam client itself, or the steam api, does something with that launch parameter and then the game can decide to do something with what steam gives them (big majority of games don't). There probably isn't anything stopping steam emulators from adding this functionality, but they'd have to add it and they haven't, but this is me talking out of my ass.
>Is this powerslave
Yes — the DOS version from GOG (running in Raze 1.7.0 — although technically it's Exhumed (the European version or whatever) despite the fact that the store page calls it PowerSlave.
I guess they probably would give me a refund in that case, because I've heard they're pretty cool about that. Then again, GOG's shopping cart does warn you when you're buying a non-Linux game while on Linux, so they could just say "you were warned" and tell me I should try to run it on Windows before returning it. lol
It's definitely a generic message that shows up every time you put a non-Linux game in your cart while using a browser that GOG identifies as running on Linux. They definitely didn't test it; "NOT compatible" just means it doesn't officially support Linux, which is true. I showed this warning when I bought the Quake games as well, but even GOG recommends source ports (which are Linux-compatible) in their support page for Quake: The Offering.
Interesting... and not really that surprising. Anyway, I wasn't actually going to buy it just to try it, so it's not a big deal. I might buy it if I find out that it works though.
Honestly, the fact that a store selling DRM-free games offers refunds at all is miraculous. I know we would all like digital distribution to work exactly like purchasing and owning physical goods, from refunds to resale, but that's not reality. I mean, traditionally, refunds would involve returning the thing you bought, i.e. actually giving it back. With GOG games? "I promise it's defective and I promise to delete the copy that I downloaded." And they actually give you the money back. It's hilarious.
I guess physical goods are sometimes like that too. My wife has complained to Amazon sellers about shit she bought online arriving slightly damaged or whatever, and they just gave her the refund without even asking her to send the thing back, presumably because accepting actual returns isn't worth the hassle on their end. So she could have just lied about it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
GOG could do something that incentives good-standing accounts (good/no refund history, established purchase history) to try niche games (something not on/well reviewed on ProtonDB) and leave more-than-surface-level reports on the appropriate channels (that double as a refund reason).
Not exactly but something to meet the Linux community halfway and give the niche titles. If Skyrim is in the cart inform it will be exempt from refunds and link some basic resources like ProtonDB.
11 months ago
Anonymous
*give the niche titles some attention
11 months ago
Anonymous
GOG obviously doesn't give a frick about Linux beyond "we let devs upload Linux builds if they want".
well the rutracker download was the same version of the insaller + nitro pack installer, same result, now the rutracker post is from 2017 and I have no idea if those are actually the latest versions of the game because the game itself was launch in a poor state on gog (windows users also had issues) but comments from last year say it works so I don't know if the game got updated at some point
well the rutracker download was the same version of the insaller + nitro pack installer, same result, now the rutracker post is from 2017 and I have no idea if those are actually the latest versions of the game because the game itself was launch in a poor state on gog (windows users also had issues) but comments from last year say it works so I don't know if the game got updated at some point
I think "The Arsenal" is just GOG's name (or maybe the official name) for the original game plus the Nitro Pack expansion, like GOG's "Quake: The Offering" being the original Quake plus its two mission packs.
If GOG somehow updated the game to work better on modern Windows then that probably would make a difference for Wine as well, but it looks like you're just failing a CD check which seems like it should be solvable just by mounting something or whatever.
the problem is hat there's nothing to mount. Checking gogdb the game was last updated in 2015, but there are def complaints after that point. So it works for some people but not everyone.
Ok, disregard that, I got it working, you can follow this to patch your exe https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21924#c5 or download it from here https://www.gog.com/forum/interstate_series/updated_new_i76_arsenal_launcher_with_automatic_workarounds_2_versions/post84
Is that patch actually what helped get you past the CD check? Looks like it's solely for fixing some CPU speed thing. In any case, thanks for trying it out. I'll refer to this post later when I inevitably try to run it myself.
Is that patch actually what helped get you past the CD check? Looks like it's solely for fixing some CPU speed thing. In any case, thanks for trying it out. I'll refer to this post later when I inevitably try to run it myself.
oh and forgot to say I'm also using "-d3d" as launch argument. "-glide" can be used as well, and if you do it can be chained together with dxvk, but note that it makes the game run at 60 fps According to other comments running the game at faster than 24fps breaks some physics stuff, though you can always cap the framerate with mangohud.
it's because even the rear mirror has graphic settings and it was like that by default, you have to increase its quality yourself. I imagine the option was quite heavy at launch
>play Company of Heroes 2 on windows >crashes on initial logo >play Company of Heroes 2 on linux >works
Between shit like this and how useful gamescope is, every PC I build in my future is going to at least have linux in a dual boot. I also love how installing Soldier of Fortune via lutris autopatched the game with a fanpatch that adds a bunch of features instead of me having to go and do it manually.
Can anyone tell me if RDNA 3 works well on Linux yet? I've had the same GPU for 6/ years now and want to upgrade, and was thinking of just grabbing an AMD 7000 series and sitting on it for another couple of years, but I've heard that the technology isn't working great on Linux yet and to just go for a 6000 series instead.
>Yes, run a traffic monitor to be sure, like nethogs
Okay okay, I used to use Little Snitch on a Mac I had and I found out that Linux has its own version called OpenSnitch, would you recommend it to check connections from the apps on my linux pc?
iirc you can set it to allow every connection. if you trust your current setup you can just use your programs normally and then after that switch it nag you for everything new
linus torvalds mantains a packet sniffer in the linux kernel that allows him to see very piece of data that moves in and out of every linux system
so no. if you play a porn game, he will be jacking offright beside you.
I'm afraid that if I actually play Interstate '76 it will just make me want a PC port of Vigilante 8 (which will happen never fricking ever but if it did I'd pay full price).
If you have the time to learn how to use it and configure, I'd say arch linux, if you're a techlet who barely knows how to install an OS, Linux mint cinnamon.
I strongly believe no one should ever use any distro based on arch, the amount of issues it will generate because idiot devs fricking around when they shouldn't outweigh the advantages it'll bring to the table, just look at manjaro and their bimonthly frickups.
I agree with you, if you cant install it manually then you are not the intended usercase. "Easy installers" have been attempted with Gentoo before as well but with alot less success.
endeavouros doesn't really tamper with packages like manjaro does, they straight up use the arch repos plus their repo that has a few extra packages https://github.com/endeavouros-team/repo/tree/master/endeavouros/x86_64 basically the main reason someone would endeavouros over arch is that it's easier to install and their forums apparently won't instantly just tell you to rtfm when you ask a question
Bros, I love linux gaming, I love how smooth it is without all the annoying stutter on Windows, all that eaten up CPU power etc. However, recently and mostly Capcom titles have crashed my PC. It first happened with RE4 Demo. The spot just outside the intro house crashed my whole pc. It was resolved recently, but then it happened with SF6 Beta. A few hours of play and system hang. And now, Exoprimal beta is doing it as well. What do?
i had one or two exoprimal crashes but nothing that killed the system
just the game killing itself
devs failed to add rejoin so it certainly is a modern game!
For me it would hang the whole system, happened twice. First time was when alt-tabbing to check my browser, had to reboot my PC. I then opened Steam and the game and tried to join the lobby with my friends again and it crashed again.
I've had games do that before to me but its been quite some time since I've had that happen on rdna3
also happened on vkd3d for that game in particular so was likely a Proton/DXVK thing in particular
Funny you mention that. I did browse around reddit of all places and found this >For anyone who might find this post in the future: If you are using Linux and an RDNA1 graphics card and are experiencing crashes in DX12 titles, the solution is to upgrade to an RDNA2 card, such as an RX 6700 XT.
hmm, I recommend using mangohud to monitor your system as shit hits the fan, things like vram or ram filling,f or example
Does AMD handle Mesa? I thought those were open source community drivers. This isn't an issue in Windows, so I doubt it's my chip.
Well, you see, mesa is a whole ot of things but I'll go back to that later. Drivers have a kernel and userspace component, I think the system going down is a failrue on the kernel side of drivers, and that'd on amd https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd
Now when it comes to mesa they have a shit ton of drivers, but the iportant two for amd are radeonsi (opengl) and radv (vulkan), radeonsi is by amd, radv isn't although amd devs do chip in from time to time, in this case where the game crashes too it might be worthwhile to ALSO report it to radv.
also, doing "journalctl -r -1" will grab the logs from your previous session (previous time you turned on the computer) in reverse order, so it might give info about what made it crash.
I know in RE4 for Windows users, the game will crash if the VRAM overflows, so maybe that's just a Capcom issue. My biggest concern is that it's making the whole system hang. If it was just the game closing, then I'd take it as something to not get too bothered about.
I guess my question is, how can I troubleshoot this? Should I report it to Mesa, VKD3D or Proton? I should say I'm gaming on a 2200G APU which I know isn't top of the line, but these games do run at a stable 30 in the case of RE4, 40 on Exo and 60 with SF6
Incidentally I reported a system hang that happened to my old cards and it was fixed in just a couple of weeks. YMMV obviously depending on how easy it's too reproduce and how insidious the bug is
It's only MHRise that I've run into trouble.
It's specially weird since it doesn't launch at all.
Trying to verify data just gets stuck in Resetting Install Script.
hmm i checked in github and nobody has reported such an easy, so add this to your launch parameter and add "PROTON_LOG=1 %command" there will be a steam-{steamid} text file made in your home folder with info
It doesn't seem to generate a new log file since it doesn't launches, but I found a log file that was made before it stopped launching.
I don't know where to upload it but it mentions a lot of "d3d12_pipeline_library_load_pipeline does not exist", so I'll look into it.
That's the neat part. Pretty much anything (besides Debian) will work just fine. Just use anything you want. It's your choice.
Debian just released a new version so they are currently rally up to date with drivers etc.
they sadly won't get the rdna3 index 144hz fix until Debian 13 though...
I wasn't aware of that. New Linux kernel versions and mesa versions are often back ported to backports during the life of a stable release. I don't think mesa was back ported for the current old stable.
idk if they'll backport the fix but its something they merged in by kernel 6.3 in amdgpu
Linux 6.3 isn't uploaded to Debian backports for the current Debian stable yet. New kernels are almost always uploaded to backports. As you can see in the image the old stable version had 5.10 as default but 6.1 in backports.
perhaps there is hope for debian gamers after all
Hi phrap
It's really not difficult to change sources.list to point to sid instead of stable. Debian works fine.
Tip: If you use testing rather than sid you get everything uploaded to sid that don't get caught introducing serious new bugs the around two weeks it takes a package to migrate from sid to testing.
What about Debian 12? I heard it comes with non-free firmware blobs now and you can always just install things like Steam as a flatpak right?
And if the distro doesn't have steam/emulators you want then you can just add flathub to flatpak working and install from there
I have never gotten Flatpak Steam to work. Even as a test I gave it full permissions to root. Still crashes. It's just fricking broken.
I like Debian. Technically my Debian install is 15 years old. Yes, I've upgraded hardware, but I've always done a direct copy of the file system when I get new hard drives and incrementally upgraded as time progresses. To each his own, though.
fedora
current packages
competent devs
easy to upgrade
don't fall for the rolling release bullshit
Wouldn't nobara be better then since it comes with a bunch of gaming stuff pre packaged?
flatpak install steam
flatpak install lutris
flatpak steam introduces problems, especially for VR
there's a lot more than that lol
https://nobaraproject.org/
too poor to afford a modern computer and a hard drive to store daily timeshifts on?
i've been an arch kinda guy for well over a decade
only recently started gaymen with a colleague of mine and building a new computer soon
getting the jitters only thinking of making the switch to fedora...
is it really worth it?
Keep using Arch, you're already used to it.
Fedora is also under the magnifying glass of IBM ever since redhat got acquired in 2019. Everybody knows what IBM is good at - or not good at, rather.
yes it just works
Not really. I use fedora on my laptop and arch on my desktop. Fedora is good for a mostly just werks experience apart from needing rpm fusion for steam and mesa-freeworld. It also has some concessions in favour of security over performance.
yikes
arch on desktop and debian on server and laptop has been the only viable option for decades bro
>debian
>on desktop
Bro what year are you living in? 2003?
Aside from the outdated packages, Debian is generally a pleasant experience from what I've seen.
Debian on my laptop would be a bit of a PITA.
I need linux 6.3 for amd pstate epp and in the future the latest TLP to manage epp. Not to mention gnome 44 is a requirement for filepicker thumbnails.
IIRC my only option would be sid which I'd rather not deal with.
I used Fedora for years and I hate how it has no packages, forcing you to use either flatpak or copr both of which are shit. Even fricking debian is better than fedora.
For gaming, it's probably Arch Linux or anything based on it.
>hates using copr
>uses aur
Yes, AUR is better than Copr. Cope and seethe.
Have you updated Windows recently? Did you take time to turn off the ads / suggestions / pride flags / etc and disable all background processes again? Have you updated Windows software recently?
my pc isnt a pile of shit so i dont need to disable images for a performance boost.
Did I say performance? You should disable stuff you don't use to reduce your computer's attack surface. You should disable the pride flag to reduce the chance of demons being summoned.
There's no point in being disingenuous about windows, everyone has windows so they know you're making up shit and exaggerating because linux can't be good so you have to pretend windows is worse
I have the misfortune of having Windows installed on a work computer. Each time I boot into it it will waste a lot of time on updates. I haven't bothered to learn how to remove the gay stuff or to disable useless the background stuff but I have been told you must do it again each time you upgrade. When Windows finally is done updating (and rebooting and rebooting and rebooting) I have to individually update each piece of software I use.
On GNU/Linux I get everything - OS and all software installed via the repos - updated at once. If the kernel is updated I have to reboot.
This may seem easy and not a waste of time to you as you use Windows but to a non Windows user it is a nightmare. The fact that you already know Windows and may have a bunch of workarounds doesn't help me when I have to use it. Searching for documentation about Windows gives cvrappy low quality results.
On the positive side MS really improved the Windows terminal experience during Windows 10. It used to be just as bad as the updates.
tl;dr
if anything you said was relevant I'd see it outside of these shill threads, but I never do
why are you upset
At first I thought it was just a ritual for linux threads but he seethes so hard I think he's an actual lolcow.
could be Linux users trying to keep the thread bumped, but if so, they should try harder to be actually funny
Tpbp.
troony gaming thread.
>being mad
lol
I mean holy shit, your life, lmao
skip the first 3 branches, move the puck left at the T intersection, then right at the next one, then down followed by the right again.
it is literally 5 moves, if you can't manage and practice 5 moves you are literal sub 80 iq. just because something looks complicated it doesn't mean it is.
or you can have a normal chain which opens in one move, fool
tpbp
linux will never be for gaming until reactos finishes
too late, I'm gaming
I've been planning to move to Slackware as I've gotten used to it via VM setups.
No, this lock is when you have a lady over who has to eat all the eggs.
I don't look like that and I don't say that
>Debian/Ubuntu based distros
broke
>Arch/Manjaro based distros
woke
>Garuda
bespoke
GOOD MORNING SIRS
Seconding this homie. Garuda is excellent and sets all the gamer shit up for you.
Just make sure to go into the options and change that hideous default mouse cursor.
>Garuda
If you're going to use an Indian OS, just stick with Microsoft, it's pajeets from top to bottom, from the CEO to the bottom feeder customer service if it isn't automated yet.
windows is israeli, not indian. all the core coding is done in israel
Is that actually true or are you just shitposting?
Yes I am too lazy to look it up.
not shitposting, you can look it up
I agree with
Garuda had a problem in the past where it erased the main partition disk.
It got fixed after 1/3 days, but something like that is unacceptable from a serious distro.
>Garuda had a problem in the past where it erased the main partition disk.
I would stay away from Garuda simply because a leaf defended the pajeet who actually did apologize for that terrible mistake. Deleting everybody's home directory after pushing an update is not a good sign for the future.
Garuda is based on Arch. Its not horrid (though I do wish they'd fix their Piped instance which never seems to fricking work), but you'd be fine with a lot of other Arch distros too that dont' do things like make BTRFS the main file system. BTRFS is sort of like ZFS but its not as mature and has some great features for stuff like server/NAS storage but can have some issues with using it as a desktop OS etc.
Arch is probably one of the best these days for gaming because there are times that you need a new version of something and need everything else to be updated or compatible with it ASAP, which lends itself well to Arch's rolling release schedule. However, I generally like those that are compatible with Arch's native repos (ie EndeavourOS ) as opposed to those that only use AUR and have their own repos (Manjaro etc). Still these aren't big issues either way, but Arch is probably one of the better options and even Valve knows it as its the new basis for SteamOS currently being beta'd of a sort on thhe Deck.
I wouldnt never run a small distro to begin with but this one is made by pajeets who somehow accidentally deleted your home folder when you disabled HiDPI.
Good morning sirs
Use Nobara. It's Fedora with gaming programs pre-installed that's managed by the the guy who makes Proton-GE
>no XCFE
Into the bin it goes
it has true polling rate overclocking too
I use Linux Mint. I've also started using flatpaks more recently to get programs that's newer than what's available in Mint's regular packages. I downloaded Retroarch, mGBA, and PCSX2 through flatpaks and all work wonderfully.
something arch-based if you want the most game-compatible platform
gentoo has been treating me nicely
Gentoo is basically only good if the level of control you get from AUR pkgbuilds is insufficient for your use case
But yeah, I also use Gentoo
I would honestly recommend Gentoo over Nix, Nix is for freaks who like functional programming dialects such as LISP. It's just as controllable as Gentoo but the way certain things are done makes it kind of painful. Adding a single patch to a package, for example, requires about ten lines of boilerplate code instead of just dropping a file /etc/portage/patches/<atom>
You can always install Nix on whatever distro you're running that isn't Nix if you want to try it or need it for some moronic thing that only builds using it; Nix always lives in /nix and is isolated from everything else, so you can have both.
i started using gentoo after I was getting into make.conf autism for aur -git packages
I want to get into Gentoo to learn more and really fine tune while minimizing attack surfaces, but I don’t think I have the requisite skills/knowledge. I migrated from W7 to Kubuntu 3 years ago or so and haven’t done much learning. I read the Schott’s ebook from linuxcommand but forgot a good bit of it, I guess because I didn’t “do” much since it really lacks in-depth exercises. Would you have any suggestions? Should I just take the plunge or are there better distros to try as a middle ground?
Just jump in honestly, I suggest installing Gentoo in a VM first. I did it and I've been learning as I go, and doing just fine. Just make sure to actually take in the knowledge when doing stuff, don't just copy&paste blindly. Look at the command and the arguments etc. I don't think you'll get intentionally malicious advice like rm -rf ~ or whatever, it's purely for understanding what commands do. Maybe even write them down in some sort of personal wiki if you think you'll forget, that's what I do with some more common but not everyday commands I use.
Not that anon, but like
Why
Why go through all this trouble to use gentoo? What benefits does it give you beyond bragging rights over other distros? Other linux distros are not nearly as much of a needy pain in the ass.
The other day I got a taste of what compiling from source was like for dolphin emulator's development version since a friend wanted to play netplay with me and insisted it HAD to be the dev version of dolphin, and the process of compiling from source was such a pain in the ass to learn, this whole time I was thinking "Is this what gentoo users have to do like, all the time? How awful, I can't imagine not just typing sudo pacman -S and just getting something near instantly."
It's not really that annoying once you get used to it and learn some of the quirks. I think the benefits outweigh the cost personally. Portage makes it a lot easier too. I literally just type sudo emerge package and it installs like any normal package manager. It abstracts most of the annoying part like getting dependencies and reading the instructions for the stupid build system that this one program uses.
What's really standout about Portage is all the features that make my life so much easier, you wanted to compile dolphin's latest version from source? All I have to do is go to /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords and add 'games-emulation/dolphin **' and now Portage will install the "live" build, what would probably be called dolphin-git on the AUR, it's the most up-to-date commit and it integrates right into the default package manager. I've found that after going through the trouble of setting up Gentoo it's very smooth compared to most other distros I've used.
i went mint - arch - gentoo over the course of maybe 2 months and have been on gentoo ever since, its really not that hard it has a shitton of documentations and almost every problem you have someone else has had and when you get to the point of obscure problems youll already know what you are doing
Packages are better tested on Gentoo as well but yeah it comes at the cost of compiling MOST things yourself.
And that homosexual mgorny refactoring and breaking shit weekly if you run ~amd64.
Still tends to work better than AUR in most cases.
livin that ~amd64 lto-overlay mold dream baby...
Yes. Livin the nightmare, baby.
To be honest I kind of wish I had just stuck with the standard -march=native -O2 but I'm in too deep now to stop and my package.env is filled with workarounds. Would not recommend unless you're autistic, it's not worth the 3% perf gain.
I only had to disable mold on 5 ebuilds and disable lto on 5 currently
not that bad really for 1518 emerged packages
Most of the stuff in gentoo and guru is fine. It's when you start getting into user overlays that stuff tends to break horribly with LTO or mold.
mold list:
>sandbox, glibc, spice-gtk, dose3, nodejs
lto list:
>libreoffice, libomp, mingw64-toolchain, rocm-smi, llvm
am using quite a few user repos including my own for stuff that doesn't get updated often
>4nykey, brother-overlay, farmboy0, librewolf, guru, lto-overlay, mv, robertgzr, steam-overlay, tatsh-overlay, torbrowser
but do note that I only let specific packages in via package.unmask so that helps from other random shit coming in that breaks things in a cascade
Yeah, that mold list is all stuff I also have worked around. Also these, can't remember WHAT was going wrong but I disabled it for some reason on these:
>openjdk, efivar, protobuf, protobuf-python, mongodb, mono, cemu, godot, lapack, rpcs3, electron
To save my sanity I've been just reverting to basic CFLAGS instead of disabling LTO specifically (I'm using -Ofast) so I couldn't tell you which actually have LTO problems. My revert-to-basic-cflags list is 34 entries long though.
And I'm also using quite a few overlays, which line up about halfway with yours but I have about four more. I'm not actually using lto-overlay beyond having it cloned to check the list of workarounds now and then because I don't like how mv-bashrc works
My local overlay is also a huge disorganized mess and my user patches is also large with like forty different patchsets I need to rebase now and then, mostly because on one of my machines I refuse to let dbus anywhere near it which is pretty hard nowadays
If you just wanna use your computer and play videogames as easy as possible? (You will still have to tinker sometimes.) Just use Mint. Flatpak got you covered. Get the Cinnamon version. (Xfce is fine, but it has problems with flat mouse inputs and I feel like it's just not as smooth as Cinnamon or KDE.
Do you want all that with more possibilites and you actually like to tinker around? Get EndevourOS with KDE Plasma.
I use arch, but I don't recommend it to newbies, you could use endeavouros if you want cutting edge
Use nobara it's the easiest "it just works" linux distro i've used make sure you keep https://www.winehq.org/ and https://www.protondb.com/ on hand
do note that nvidia users have had issues with nobara though
Nobara. It's handled by the proton ge guy.
As a general rule, you want a debian variant. They have the best support
Can I borrow your time machine visitor from 2012?
Anyone use a 144hz on one monitor and 60hz on another? I'm using archolinux and it feels laggy/glitchy moving shite on the 144hz one.
>export __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=1
>export __GL_SYNC_DISPLAY_DEVICE=DisplayPort-0
give these a try in your .profile
change the device to match your main monitor of course, can use xrandr to see device names (if on X11)
Cheers, will give it a go when I get to my desk.
i also had
>#export VDPAU_NVIDIA_SYNC_DISPLAY_DEVICE=DP-2
from my nvidia days if you're on nvidia
I am, I'm debating using amd for my next build as I've heard you get less issues with them on Linux but I'm fricked if I want to do any VR stuff.
it depends
both drivers can have issues depending on how bleeding-edge you are hardware-wise or how unlucky you are with a specific card
Nvidia features pretty much all work on Linux just fine for modern cards
oh and one last thing to check is to make sure your main monitor has the "Primary" flag set
not sure what DE you're on but for me I set that via xrandr in i3wm or output in sway
nvidia-xserver-settings should have a checkbox somewhere if you're using that for your xorg configs
VR works but needs fixing from Valve as the overlay is glitchy/awful in general
VR games generally work just fine for both GPU vendors in my experience but I have heard that nvidia drivers past 525 broke steamvr
Fair, it's just most issues I hear tend to be from Nvidia but that could just be that they're used more.
I'm using a Quest 2 which from what I've heard shits the bed with anything amd visually due to shit video encoding.
nvidia modules not being already in the kernel you use can cause hiccups for some users who don't have the module-rebuild process automated or don't know how to fix it from a simple cmdline environment
most distros should have it figured out by now but that's about the worst I saw (driver not loading and just requiring me to rebuild them into the kernel modules and updating grub)
for Quest 2 you'd want to run Nightly ALVR and disable Vulkan Async in SteamVR
you'll actually have a better overlay experience in SteamVR than Index users after doing this but yeah I've heard the encoders used on AMD aren't as nice for the streaming to it
haven't touched my Quest(s) in ages to try them on RDNA3 or Linux
Maybe the nightly alvr is what I'm missing, I heard stories of people using the regular and getting horrible performance.
i wouldn't doubt subpar performance on AMD since their video decoding seems to generally be better
h264 on RDNA3 is a mess decoding-wise, don't think I've been using the encoder cause I was scared of it also being bad and am just waiting for AV1
Can the Quest 2 do AV1?
uh probably not but don't quote me on that since I know most modern gpus have had av1 decoding support
I know VD has some new 10bit encoder stuff they threw in but that's not Linux compatible
I'm waiting for AV1 for obs-studio usage 🙁
I might bite the bullet and pay for virtual desktop instead of using the oculus one, my local network could do with an upgrade first.
I thought they added that in May to obs?
>I thought they added that in May to obs?
for Windows, yea :^)
Thanks anon. I'm looking at getting a 4090 once the Bigscreen VR headset lands so I can play Fallout 4 and Skyrim in VR at non-bad framerates. I hope that the card won't be too much of a downgrade from my 6800xt.
early testers haven't gotten Beyond working yet on Linux but i'm hoping it should be fine with a little bit of begging Valve
Is Nix OS any good?
yes, if you're autist enough to dig through github to learn how to use it right.
sometimes vidya shit breaks but you can just boot from a previous build and it werkz again.
Fedora Silverblue or SuSE MicroOS might be a lot more practical for simple up to date desktop+gaming if you want to fall for the immutable layered OS meme.
NixOS is great but it can be a bit extreme for desktop use. I never bothered with home-manager because managing my entire desktop config through nix language is just too much of a pain in the ass. Haven't touched flakes either, don't really see any reason to.
>Linux
>Gaming
You can only pick one
too late
use lutris or bottles to install them, but you should avoid repacks in general whenever possible
why avoid repacks?
They don't always play nice when unpacking on Linux. Try using DODI if you still want to use them, it's the one that has worked for me on Linux. Nowadays I just use cs.rin.ru though.
It's not a hard rule, but they tend to be coded in a way they either need extra dependencies which is an extra step, or just don't work. Or appear to work but fail in the middle of it. I'm the end a good chunk of repacks work, but another chunk don't, and I'd rather sidestep the whole affair completely
Windows still does more of what I want, but Jesus christ this bloatware is hot garbage. I stay in Linux land as long as I can these days.
>Windows still does more of what I want,
What are you missing
I make windows applications and I need to make sure certain things work for my window's customers.
Endeavour OS
Why do you make this thread everyday
Like genuinely I’m confused
Also I’m not trans so I use windows
>Also I’m not trans so I use windows
Pretty much anything, Steam and Lutris is available on always everything and have install scripts for every game I have tried.
If you need examples Ive run Pop OS and Manjaro with little to no fiddling or had to use the terminal.
How do you install pirated games in linux? All installers are for windows.
you install windows
unpack em and then run em in Wine, Wine-GE, or add as a non-steam-game
easy
I want to use the terminal more, so I'm going to try and play some Terminal friendly games like text adventures and roguelikes.
i'm on fedora kde
which proton version do you guys usually default to?
Experimental on Steam and latest Wine-GE on everything else (Lutris, Heroic, etc).
Latest proton-ge.
For non-steam games I use wine-staging with a few extra patches (+dxvk and vkd3d-proton obviously) and wine-proton if that fails because it's usually more reliable than the previous stable version of WINE.
I keep separate prefixes under ~/.prefixes depending on what games require.
Repacks are shit, that's why. I always prefer signed GOG installers if available because you know they're clean and failing that other DRM-free sources. Clean steam files off rinru and manually appling goldberg or the denuvo crack should be your last choice.
i wish this game would get a new influx of players that stuck around
i miss those all nighter campaigns
If you use flatpaks it doesn't matter which distro you use
does rocksmith work on linux?
babyfart lemonade
Looking forward to the July HW survey.
Dual boot Artix GNU/Linux and Windows 10 LTSC using Ganker guides to debloat for your gaming/Adobe needs
Wine and Proton can only do so much, and when you're trying to run some niche proprietary modding program for a Windows-only game on GNU/Linux you're just asking for trouble
>but my privac-
You carry a smartphone with you 24/7.
GNU/Linux is my main OS not solely because of privacy (though it's nice) because it's less of a headache and far more extensible for practical use, but if you tinker it right Windows is fine, albeit with some nuisance
>You carry a smartphone with you 24/7.
A normie smartphone, maybe.
If it's a smartphone it's compromised period no matter what CFW you're using, triangulating your location at all times is how a cell network works to begin with
Sorry, I gutted the wireless capabilities of my device.
>Artix
Why?
Systemd bad
>why is it ba-
I was told it was bad.
There are multiple reasons to not like it but most people that have issues with it is due to Systemd not following UNIX philosophy or it's horrible start-stop daemon but if you didnt know anything about it you may as well have installed Arch over Artix and saved yourself any potential future compability issues.
I do know why but I'm just echoing the memes.
>I was told it was bad.
>You carry a smartphone with you 24/7.
I don't. I have a no contract flip phone that I charge with cards I buy at 7-11 with cash.
Question. How do I install stuff via git? I do use "git clone" along with the link I am downloading from with the command and after that what are the next steps to do to install it? I tried looking up how to do and I get nothing. I am using Arch Linux. Is there some other thing I can use besides git which downloads the file and then installs immediately?
Depends on what you're installing.
Git repositories tend to be used for source code, so you're often going to have to compile it. On the Git page or in the README.md, check for build instructions
Running the "git clone <URL>" command will get you the source code, and then the way you compile and install it is entirely 100% dependent on the specifics of the project and thus there's no sense in asking for generic instructions. If a project's developers expect you to compile it yourself, there should be instructions on the README and that should be visible on the main page of the repo if it's hosted on GitHub or GitLab.
Projects which have matured beyond the early development phase will often have pre-compiled releases you can just download and install, instead of compiling shit yourself. On the main page of a GitHub repo, you may see a "releases" section on the right-hand sidebar, which will show the latest release. For example, here's the latest release of DevilutionX:
>https://github.com/diasurgical/devilutionX/releases/tag/1.5.0
Scroll down to the Assets section and there are packages to download. The one I'm about to download from there is "devilutionx-linux-x86_64.tar.xz", and I'm going to install it just by unpacking with "tar -xJf" or whatever and then dropping the executable and other files where I want them. If installing a pre-compiled release is more difficult than that, the README should have instructions for that too.
Has anyone here tried gaming on a Windows virtual machine while running Linux as your main OS? What are your experiences?
two years ago I set up single GPU passthrough on a VM, it was a pain to set up and the stop script didn't work properly (that's on me though)
it was very much not worth the effort for me
probably better with a second gpu
I use Pop! OS. Are you going to bully me?
Pop! OS is from System76.
Stop supporting amerifat companies.
I've been using endeavourOS for like 5 months, but is there any real difference between a clean eOS and Arch Install? I feel like every time I need to figure out how to do something, I'm just googling how to do it in Arch because eOS is based on Arch anyway.
EndeavorOS is supposed to be close to Arch on purpose
it doesn't do the repo holding shit that Manjaro does that breaks AUR for a lot of users
you shouldn't need to install base Arch at all since you can just remove anything you don't like
it has an extra repo with a few extra packages but they are pretty much the same. that said, it does has its own forum which you should use over arch's, in arch you're expected to install the system yourself and have a basic understanding how things work so if you ask dumb shit as a newbie you'll get shot down in their forums while eos is more accommodating as it was trying to be easier to begin with.
>drive-by shitposters are eating bans
keep it up we're winning, linuxbros
I would appreciate some puzzle game recommendations, either 2D or 3D is fine. baba, pattrick's parabox, zachtronics stuff, antichamber, portal, superliminal, talos, baba,pedestrian... played all those and probably more I already forgot
it wasn't eve a new ip, there's some guy that posts for over trying to push troony shit. Even when his shit gets deleted, a new ip ultimately appears pushing the same things, so the only technological competency they seem to have is changing their ip.
AAAAXY
Interesting, first time I hear of it
Most people tend to not pay attention to open source games rightfully because they're shit but that one is a very solid 2D antichamber-like.
Stop asking what distro to use, just install Arch, if you can't make it past the installer then frick off.
Stop recommending Nobara without mentioning Nvidia, it keeps breaking every update or so with Nvidia.
Every distro breaks constantly with Nvidia. Welcome to proprietary shit drivers, enjoy your stay. Maybe nvk will change the situation for the better eventually.
Steam OS 3, where the frick is it?
inb4
> 3
Stop being allergic to the number 3, call it Steam OS Galaxy or something if it's too troublesome.
>Steam OS 3, where the frick is it?
On my Steam Deck. You living under a rock?
>Stop being allergic to the number 3
They obviously aren't, because 3.0 is literally the version Steam Deck uses.
Guess he wants a general release, even though it's not well suited for desktop computers
I should have figured as much. In that case:
1. Install any Arch-based distro.
2. Install Steam on it.
3. Disable sudo.
Congratulations, you now have the equivalent of SteamOS 3.
Don't forget to install gamescope, mangohud, mangoapp and gamescope-session off AUR
Thanks. Those are steps 2b through 2e. I forgot to mention them.
Noooooo I don't wanna install anything. Let Gaben do it for me. I would even be fine with an automated installer that works like a virus. I want to hit Enter button = get OS right away.
Release it on PC, not on a handheld. Better yet, sell AMD pre-builts assembled at a Valve factory instead of letting other OEMs do it to bypass Microshart from playing dirty games under the table again like they did with Steam Machines. And don't give me Holo ISO.
Technically the SteamDeck uses Steam OS 3 Holo, not actually Steam OS 3
Yeah, and I'm using Linux Mint 21.1 Vera, not actually Linux Mint 21.1, right? Oh wait, never mind. That's the dumbest shit ever because Vera is just the codename for Linux Mint 21.1. Oh look, Holo is the codename for SteamOS 3. Wow it's almost as if things having codenames doesn't mean they don't count.
SteamOS 3 for Steam Deck is the only SteamOS 3 that exists because the third Debian-based turd was cancelled.
Holo is actually the name for the version of SteamOS for the deck.
That wikipedia article is wrong
No shit. Holo is the codename for SteamOS 3 which has only been released for Steam Deck. That doesn't mean there's a "true" SteamOS 3 with no codename. This is it. If they make another then it'll be SteamOS 4, and it will probably be released only for Steam Deck 2, because Valve doesn't need to release a Linux distro for general desktop use, because people who want to use Linux are smart enough to install Steam.
>that doesn't mean there is a true steamos 3
That is actually exactly what that means. It's the whole thing behind Valve saying the Steam Deck ISO isn't SteamOS 3 and they intended on releasing it after the big picture rework.
>no source
My source is Valve themselves dumbass, I understand that doesn't qualify as a valid source.
Okay. Steam Deck 2 is a laptop and my source is Valve. What, you want a link to the evidence? Just believe me. Valve told me, bro.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3297210455204349335 valve themselves have used 3 as the version you know
Okay. That's a news post about SteamOS 3.2 update for Steam Deck. What point do you think you're making? In case you've already forgotten what conversation is happening here, I'm waiting for evidence that SteamOS 3 "Holo" isn't the real SteamOS 3.
They said it was going to be out when they finished the big picture revamp, but then they updated the whole client, so maybe some time soon.
you will NOT
>use the vast majority of programs you need on a daily basis. some of them have 20 year old open source alternatives, no need for bloated ableton live or photoshop
>play most of the games you love. if its not on linux, its probably chinkware spyware bloat garbage anyway
>have sex. we need you in the fields arguing over linux distros soldier
>have an enjoyable user experience. only a moronic normie would expect an operating system to be intuitive
>use the drivers for any equipment or peripherals you need. imagine needing proprietary code just for hardware to work its better if it doesnt work at all
>challenge trans identity. most of us are trans and trans women are women and that is final.
>yes I do dual boot into windows anytime I actually want to do anything
I installed EndeavourOS, and I already broke down. Back to Mint I guess.
Don't be distro-hopping everywhere. If you must try a distro, use a VM or a 20+ collection of them through ventoy + liveusb on a big ass 128 USB thumbdrive.
How?
I want to switch to Linux but I use MS Office a lot and my dot-Matrix Printer.
Anyone else been able to launch Steam since the latest update?
If you use .deb, .snap, or anything related to GTK (GNOME) you're shit out of luck right now and have to wait for them to update their packages. If you're on KDE like Gaben intended (see: Steam Deck, it's KDE based) you will have zero problems aside from the usual memory hog issues you see on Google Chrome thanks to fricking electron.
Using XFCE so yeah GTK based.
Sucks to know that's the problem.
Revert to the previous Steam client version and wait it out.
I've been able to launch it, Steam via Apt, but the UI scaling is fricked. The fonts are super small, everything is just scaled incorrectly on my 4K. Using Kubuntu. It looks like sin, although the update itself looks fine.
I was thinking about trying switching to Flatpak.
I can't be the only one having this issue.
Figured it out. You can force scaling when launching Steam. Find your steam.desktop, mine was in /usr/share/applications. There you can find a line that starts with Exec=
I added the flag -forcedesktopscaling 2. Full thing looks like this
>Exec=/usr/games/steam %U -forcedesktopscaling 2
based problem fixer
Thoughts on Budgie?
I don't care about these threads, but I'll just bump it because it always makes the MS shills mad.
If anyone's bored out of their mind and crazy enough to play this on linux, use the DX11 version. DX12 version stutters too much, probably an unreal engine problem + pajeet programming.
what game is this? raji?
Yep, Raji.
The English used by the pajeets is grating, so I swapped audio to Hindi, kept the interface English, and turned on subtitles. Scenery is nice, combat is hack-and-dodge mashing buttons but will get you killed on hard mode, also any in-depth gobbleyasiatic of Indian myths is fortunately player-triggered only when you stand in front of a mural and not mandatory. I hate expositions like nonsensical diatribes in my videogames, unless it's the original Deus Ex.
Dxvk can usually compile shaders ahead of time, but that's not the case with dx12, devs have to compile those ahead of time on their own, so basically it needs a screen at the start to let you wait all the compilations out
reposting
>try gaming with mint xfce
>45 fps
>try kubuntu
>70 fps
i'm talking about valve games but other ones are affected too
Must be something with the compositor
Try disabling it on fullscreen programs
Could also be a GTK vs KDE problem, no?
Not really
It's more likely to be related to package versions, specially for drivers and kernel
Tried to get holo iso to work but no luck 🙁 they need to get nvidia card support working I stg
Tried endavourOS but it like to randomly crash and restart my pc but it's got my favorite aesthetic
>nvidia
You need to keep trying with different Nvidia drivers, especially if you have an older GPU. Find one that doesn't crash.
Use journalctl to figure out why it's crashing.
>it likes to randomly crash
hmm, check if there are scary messages in dmesg or journalctl.
You can check the journalctl log fromt he previous session (aka the previous time you booted) with "journalctl -b -1"
And you can check them in reverse order (the last messages first) with "journalctl -rb -1"
also install the inxi package and annex the output of "inxi -G"
guys guys here's an idea: WINDOWS AHAHAHA how about you try something that doesn't break every minute im using windows btw if you're interested i like 7 but 10 works pretty good too
>how about you try something that doesn't breeeeeeeebrbrbrbbrbr
Steam won't be supported on 7 and 10 in 2024. Keep rolling on the hamster wheel, windowsbro. Maybe windows n+1 will be better.
Linux Mint is the gamer distro.
homie u gay
the color pink makes me really horny
homie why do you have two games open at once wtf
I'm so fricking disappointed in B4B
just played some Command & Conquer 3
brutal AI's double income cheat is really noticable
I need to get into Warzone 2100 again, that's closest open source RTS to C&C that I know of.
my only concern for linux as a daily driver is that im gonna expect shit to break from time to time
what are some safety nets i could employ?
Restore points, Linux Mint comes with timeshift already installed that creates daily restore points.
rsync snapshots. Use timeshift for a moron proof just werks solution.
Snapshots, yes. For example OpenSUSE comes with a snapshot system that creates a new system snapshot every time you update and in case your current snapshot breaks you can boot a previous one. It only affects system files so your own files and configuration files stay the same... this is actually both good and bad. Sometimes new config files are not compatible with old software the snapshot might have. The solution is to do partial update for those programs or separate system and user software, for example by using flatpaks. It's easier to break a Linux than a Windows one because you have more control and new users should expect to break their systems so snapshots are definitely something to look into.
Fricked around with Manjaro a bit, but I didn't know how to make Autocad and Inventor work on it, and had an uni assignment for the week afterwards, so I went back to windows for the time being
Nobara, install and things just work right away
I'm really liking manjaro or more realistically just KDE, I can't tell much of a difference from ubuntu variants I've tried besides typing pacman instead of apt in the terminal on occasion and I've been wanting to rejigger my hard drive space to try to use it as more of a daily driver. Is it feasible to move the root file system across drives without making a million massive headaches or should I just reinstall?
I also like Manjaro but for some reason mentioning it summoned several posters to insult you every time.
I don't know if it's still the case.
Manjaro? More like 1 man 1 jar, oh!
FRICK YOU
lmao this guy using manjaro
There was a group of dedicated endeavour fanboys that always shit on manjaro. You can tell they're endeavour users because they used to always pull up a list of mistakes manjaro had with stable updates; But they all stopped that real quick when endeavour shipped out a bricked grub update.
The broken grub update was from arch itself ackstually
I've been using Manjaro for quite some time now and it's fricking shit.
Shit just stops working randomly. The only reason why I still use this piece of shit OS on my desktop is because I'm too lazy to install Arch
Everyone who shits on Manjaro just tells you to use Arch though
Yes it's fine. You need to point your bootloader to the new drive and also edit /etc/fstab to match the partitions on the new drive, but besides that your software doesn't give a single frick about where the files are physically.
Why don't you just change the partition sizes?
Gentoo, obviously.
Seriously, though, use Linux Mint (a better Ubuntu, which is a more usable Debian) and for the Gentoo-like experience install guix alongside.
Do NOT click "change account" in this new steam update, you'll get stuck in the "waiting for network" screen and won't be able to log in again.
>that'll be 1.5GB RAM + tip
Except for xdg-portal support letting me use KDE's file picker when uploading files to my friends, this Steam update has been a disaster. I can't even turn off the notifications when wishlisted games go on sale because "steam servers are busy".
i've been using the update since the beta branch quite a while back and i haven't had any problems with it
bump
is it free?
sure
>latest nvidia drivers broke things and have performance problems again
Could they at least test this shit before pushing it live?
They're testing it on you. Abandon the rolling/bleeding edge meme.
>nvidia's stable branch drivers aren't stable because...something something muh rolling release distros are a scam
Stable branch drivers anon. They're supposed to be stable regardless of what distro and package management scheme you're running.
It's 2023. Stable is the new beta. Applies to all software.
Steam OS on my Steam Deck
Sometimes Mint on my shitty old laptop
That's it really
Why do some opengl games not allow mangohud to work?
https://github.com/flightlessmango/MangoHud#opengl
Yes but why? It's windows opengl games as well
Because of how ManguHud and OpenGL work. What do you want me to say?
Just use --dlsym and if that doesn't work then you'll just have to play the game without shit all over the screen like the good old days.
has anyone tried using proton for japanese erotic games and other erotic games made for windows?
does it work "better" than wine? is there any reason for these games to use either?
probably depends on the game considering that jap games tend to be super jank
>Linux gaming
Why would I do that?
Based Linus putting American partisans in their place!
No one asked you to.
Just go enjoy Windows.
If you're still mad then you deserve to be mad.
It's hilarious how you leftist fricks think you're going to take over the west when you are the ones who don't even have guns.
I'm not a leftist.
Literally take your antipsychotic meds.
>t. morgthorak
Now prove that Windows is a far right operating system.
How do I avoid distro-hopping?
See the light and install Gentoo. It is customizable to the point that you will NEVER need another desktop distro.
What desktop environment are you running? Just curious about your compile times because we have the same CPU.
KDE.
You'll need a few hours a week.
>KDE
Qtwebengine strikes again, they should just offer a binary for it.
>Try to get Cyberpunk running for the new DLC soon
>Just doesn't run
Is this because I switched to wayland?
I don't have the game but considering it works on deck I don't think it should be the issue
Have you tried it with Bottles? Games works with Bottles for me, just wouldn't run on anything else
*the game works
I only use steam tho. I don't own games on anything else.
give output of "inxi -G" so we have soemthing to work with
It's amazing how it never occurs to them that just saying "it doesn't le work" is not enough information for random strangers to help fix the problem.
to be fair, most people probably don't know how to get relevant information though they should still ask how
Talking about troubleshooting, I wonder if the anon that couldn't get re4hd working managed to fix his setup in the end
Launch Steam from your terminal and check what it's logging when the game crashes. You really gotta learn some basic troubleshooting ability homie, people won't magically know how to help you with moronic blanket statements like "game no work".
I've been on Bunsenlabs for years and probably should switch to something else for muh games because Debian. Most of the shit I throw at it works fine, but every once in a while I run into some hiccups.
I'm sure I could install anything and configure it with Openbox and shit to my liking but the Bunsen defaults are so good and I'm complacent.
anyone else playing the feature phone port of bioshock on linux?
Never knew it existed. Looks neat.
>realize only after installing OpenRA that not all of the C&C1 missions are implemented yet
full game when?
I still waiting for my Daggerfall Unity android port.
not sure how it stacks up, but Steam OS has been perfectly fine for me. I get noticeable improvement in performance when in gaming mode, even with the potato specs the steam deck has. the only downside is it takes a moment to switch between gaming mode and desktop mode.
Linux can't even fix their version of .exe. Everyone is just doing their own way
actually having choices works on my machine
Linux Mint 21.1
don't touch the terminal unless you know what your doing (only way i found issues was ones i introduced myself when i was on 19.3)
add Lutris and Steam
now you have a very stable "it just works" way to play games on Linux with only really stuff that uses things like EasyAntiCheat giving you any issues, and requires little knowledge of the OS outside of what you would be familiar with from Windows anyway.
All this above
>only way i found issues was ones i introduced myself when i was on 19.3
Which you can fix by reinstalling the system a year later (since you will frick some thins up still) and then have a true just werks experience
>only really stuff that uses things like EasyAntiCheat giving you any issues
and devs making moronic updates to old games, any of those """""next-gen""""" dx12 + launcher updates always fricks something up, so always stay on the older version in steam settings for the game
hmm, for that anon that was having issues with pirated we love katamari, it seems that adding the pirated copy to steam and adding SteamDeck=1 to its launch parameters actually works lmao
if it's a launch arg what keeps it from working directly?
I think the steam client itself, or the steam api, does something with that launch parameter and then the game can decide to do something with what steam gives them (big majority of games don't). There probably isn't anything stopping steam emulators from adding this functionality, but they'd have to add it and they haven't, but this is me talking out of my ass.
>Which Distro should I use for gaming?
None, Linux is a meme so don't fall for it
Works on my machine.
I use Mint, by the way.
And yes, I play OLD games, because they're fun.
I'm based.
Is this powerslave
I don't see why it wouldn't, I could try in a few hours when I'm back home
>Is this powerslave
Yes — the DOS version from GOG (running in Raze 1.7.0 — although technically it's Exhumed (the European version or whatever) despite the fact that the store page calls it PowerSlave.
Does it work with Wine? And by Wine, I mean Bottles or Proton.
If it doesn't it should be an easy explanation to refund.
I guess they probably would give me a refund in that case, because I've heard they're pretty cool about that. Then again, GOG's shopping cart does warn you when you're buying a non-Linux game while on Linux, so they could just say "you were warned" and tell me I should try to run it on Windows before returning it. lol
What does Details say? Is it just a generic compatibility message or does it literally confirm they won't work?
It's definitely a generic message that shows up every time you put a non-Linux game in your cart while using a browser that GOG identifies as running on Linux. They definitely didn't test it; "NOT compatible" just means it doesn't officially support Linux, which is true. I showed this warning when I bought the Quake games as well, but even GOG recommends source ports (which are Linux-compatible) in their support page for Quake: The Offering.
Interesting... and not really that surprising. Anyway, I wasn't actually going to buy it just to try it, so it's not a big deal. I might buy it if I find out that it works though.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/linux_wine_and_refund_policy_request_refund_for_a_game_not_listed_as_usable_with_linux/post3
I guess it's not that easy.
wow gog sucks
Honestly, the fact that a store selling DRM-free games offers refunds at all is miraculous. I know we would all like digital distribution to work exactly like purchasing and owning physical goods, from refunds to resale, but that's not reality. I mean, traditionally, refunds would involve returning the thing you bought, i.e. actually giving it back. With GOG games? "I promise it's defective and I promise to delete the copy that I downloaded." And they actually give you the money back. It's hilarious.
I guess physical goods are sometimes like that too. My wife has complained to Amazon sellers about shit she bought online arriving slightly damaged or whatever, and they just gave her the refund without even asking her to send the thing back, presumably because accepting actual returns isn't worth the hassle on their end. So she could have just lied about it.
GOG could do something that incentives good-standing accounts (good/no refund history, established purchase history) to try niche games (something not on/well reviewed on ProtonDB) and leave more-than-surface-level reports on the appropriate channels (that double as a refund reason).
Not exactly but something to meet the Linux community halfway and give the niche titles. If Skyrim is in the cart inform it will be exempt from refunds and link some basic resources like ProtonDB.
*give the niche titles some attention
GOG obviously doesn't give a frick about Linux beyond "we let devs upload Linux builds if they want".
lol lmao. Ok so my first attempt didn't work, but this one I pirated didn't mention arsenal anywhere, I'll see what thr one from rutracker gibs
well the rutracker download was the same version of the insaller + nitro pack installer, same result, now the rutracker post is from 2017 and I have no idea if those are actually the latest versions of the game because the game itself was launch in a poor state on gog (windows users also had issues) but comments from last year say it works so I don't know if the game got updated at some point
I think "The Arsenal" is just GOG's name (or maybe the official name) for the original game plus the Nitro Pack expansion, like GOG's "Quake: The Offering" being the original Quake plus its two mission packs.
If GOG somehow updated the game to work better on modern Windows then that probably would make a difference for Wine as well, but it looks like you're just failing a CD check which seems like it should be solvable just by mounting something or whatever.
the problem is hat there's nothing to mount. Checking gogdb the game was last updated in 2015, but there are def complaints after that point. So it works for some people but not everyone.
Ok, disregard that, I got it working, you can follow this to patch your exe https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21924#c5 or download it from here https://www.gog.com/forum/interstate_series/updated_new_i76_arsenal_launcher_with_automatic_workarounds_2_versions/post84
Is that patch actually what helped get you past the CD check? Looks like it's solely for fixing some CPU speed thing. In any case, thanks for trying it out. I'll refer to this post later when I inevitably try to run it myself.
oh and forgot to say I'm also using "-d3d" as launch argument. "-glide" can be used as well, and if you do it can be chained together with dxvk, but note that it makes the game run at 60 fps According to other comments running the game at faster than 24fps breaks some physics stuff, though you can always cap the framerate with mangohud.
Surreal happenings in your rear view 76friend
it's because even the rear mirror has graphic settings and it was like that by default, you have to increase its quality yourself. I imagine the option was quite heavy at launch
Gnome 3 is the best computer interface available today and you cannot convine me otherwise.
I prefer tty1.
>play Company of Heroes 2 on windows
>crashes on initial logo
>play Company of Heroes 2 on linux
>works
Between shit like this and how useful gamescope is, every PC I build in my future is going to at least have linux in a dual boot. I also love how installing Soldier of Fortune via lutris autopatched the game with a fanpatch that adds a bunch of features instead of me having to go and do it manually.
Can anyone tell me if RDNA 3 works well on Linux yet? I've had the same GPU for 6/ years now and want to upgrade, and was thinking of just grabbing an AMD 7000 series and sitting on it for another couple of years, but I've heard that the technology isn't working great on Linux yet and to just go for a 6000 series instead.
it works well
has reset bug apparently though for vm autists
still waiting on av1
Can I download eroge (japanese porn games) on Linux without the devs of Linux knowing like Microsoft knows everything you do in your system?
Yes, run a traffic monitor to be sure, like nethogs
>Yes, run a traffic monitor to be sure, like nethogs
Okay okay, I used to use Little Snitch on a Mac I had and I found out that Linux has its own version called OpenSnitch, would you recommend it to check connections from the apps on my linux pc?
iirc you can set it to allow every connection. if you trust your current setup you can just use your programs normally and then after that switch it nag you for everything new
linus torvalds mantains a packet sniffer in the linux kernel that allows him to see very piece of data that moves in and out of every linux system
so no. if you play a porn game, he will be jacking offright beside you.
but the porn game isn't sending packets?
or is it?
not without an internet conection it sure isn't :^)
>but the porn game isn't sending packets?
>he hasn't taken the porn game telemetry redpill
anon...
simply disconnect your wifi cable sir
I'm afraid that if I actually play Interstate '76 it will just make me want a PC port of Vigilante 8 (which will happen never fricking ever but if it did I'd pay full price).
Arch is the best if you know what you're doing
If you have the time to learn how to use it and configure, I'd say arch linux, if you're a techlet who barely knows how to install an OS, Linux mint cinnamon.
Endeavour is a good mix of both while encouraging learning.
I strongly believe no one should ever use any distro based on arch, the amount of issues it will generate because idiot devs fricking around when they shouldn't outweigh the advantages it'll bring to the table, just look at manjaro and their bimonthly frickups.
Isn't that more on Manjaro trying to do their own thing? Does Endeavour stray as far from vanilla Arch?
Even the official arch installer stray out of the arch path, just saying.
opensuse it is!
I agree with you, if you cant install it manually then you are not the intended usercase. "Easy installers" have been attempted with Gentoo before as well but with alot less success.
endeavouros doesn't really tamper with packages like manjaro does, they straight up use the arch repos plus their repo that has a few extra packages https://github.com/endeavouros-team/repo/tree/master/endeavouros/x86_64 basically the main reason someone would endeavouros over arch is that it's easier to install and their forums apparently won't instantly just tell you to rtfm when you ask a question
kubuntu (disable snaps)
mint
arch (or endeavour if you arent as confident)
nobara
cant vouch for anything else
frick off, stallman
based
>No blur
unless you're going to tell me exactly how to add blur to the terminal on Linux Mint 21.1 then I'm just going to continue pretending I don't want it
Looks like you can't on cinnamon https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon/issues/9174
I never wanted it anyway! 🙁
You could always install plasma to give it a go, you don't have to uninstall cinnamon for it
>No sharpening
our year
this but ironically
I switched years ago
>hell let loose support in sep
oh hell yeah
oh hell no
Bros, I love linux gaming, I love how smooth it is without all the annoying stutter on Windows, all that eaten up CPU power etc. However, recently and mostly Capcom titles have crashed my PC. It first happened with RE4 Demo. The spot just outside the intro house crashed my whole pc. It was resolved recently, but then it happened with SF6 Beta. A few hours of play and system hang. And now, Exoprimal beta is doing it as well. What do?
i had one or two exoprimal crashes but nothing that killed the system
just the game killing itself
devs failed to add rejoin so it certainly is a modern game!
For me it would hang the whole system, happened twice. First time was when alt-tabbing to check my browser, had to reboot my PC. I then opened Steam and the game and tried to join the lobby with my friends again and it crashed again.
I've had games do that before to me but its been quite some time since I've had that happen on rdna3
also happened on vkd3d for that game in particular so was likely a Proton/DXVK thing in particular
Funny you mention that. I did browse around reddit of all places and found this
>For anyone who might find this post in the future: If you are using Linux and an RDNA1 graphics card and are experiencing crashes in DX12 titles, the solution is to upgrade to an RDNA2 card, such as an RX 6700 XT.
I fumbled a word and meant Nvidia, not VKD3D
anon, that post doesn't say vkd3d!
>also happened on vkd3d
I was referring to my prior post
can't comment on rdna1 or rdna2 but anecdotally have heard that rdna2 should be solid
hmm, I recommend using mangohud to monitor your system as shit hits the fan, things like vram or ram filling,f or example
Well, you see, mesa is a whole ot of things but I'll go back to that later. Drivers have a kernel and userspace component, I think the system going down is a failrue on the kernel side of drivers, and that'd on amd https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd
Now when it comes to mesa they have a shit ton of drivers, but the iportant two for amd are radeonsi (opengl) and radv (vulkan), radeonsi is by amd, radv isn't although amd devs do chip in from time to time, in this case where the game crashes too it might be worthwhile to ALSO report it to radv.
also, doing "journalctl -r -1" will grab the logs from your previous session (previous time you turned on the computer) in reverse order, so it might give info about what made it crash.
I know in RE4 for Windows users, the game will crash if the VRAM overflows, so maybe that's just a Capcom issue. My biggest concern is that it's making the whole system hang. If it was just the game closing, then I'd take it as something to not get too bothered about.
yeah as I said report it to amd, the issue form has a template that'll ask you a bunch of information, it's not that hard.
oh yeah, just in case, this is the actual link for crating new issues https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/new
I guess my question is, how can I troubleshoot this? Should I report it to Mesa, VKD3D or Proton? I should say I'm gaming on a 2200G APU which I know isn't top of the line, but these games do run at a stable 30 in the case of RE4, 40 on Exo and 60 with SF6
you could just open issues or search for issues across those for matching architectures on that APU and hope for the best
they'll likely ask for logs
crashes that take down the system should be reported to AMD
Does AMD handle Mesa? I thought those were open source community drivers. This isn't an issue in Windows, so I doubt it's my chip.
Check relevant logs
If the actual system is crashing, check dmesg and journalctl
weird, even my 10 year old amd gpu didn't crash with the re4 demo. Is this with an amd or nvidia card?
Try Regata OS (www . regataos . com). Fedora is good too. But anything will work (except GNU centric distro like Debian).
Incidentally I reported a system hang that happened to my old cards and it was fixed in just a couple of weeks. YMMV obviously depending on how easy it's too reproduce and how insidious the bug is
nixos
what did you just call me
hello, face head
I can't launch MH Rise on Steam.
It says Launching and stays that way all the time, I don't even know how to debug it if it doesn't even start.
help
do other games work? as always some info on your setup would help so give "inxi -G" and say if other games work and which ones just in case
It's only MHRise that I've run into trouble.
It's specially weird since it doesn't launch at all.
Trying to verify data just gets stuck in Resetting Install Script.
Rise was a problem child for me on both Nvidia and AMD at times
hmm i checked in github and nobody has reported such an easy, so add this to your launch parameter and add "PROTON_LOG=1 %command" there will be a steam-{steamid} text file made in your home folder with info
It doesn't seem to generate a new log file since it doesn't launches, but I found a log file that was made before it stopped launching.
I don't know where to upload it but it mentions a lot of "d3d12_pipeline_library_load_pipeline does not exist", so I'll look into it.
have you tried switching proton versions?
Yeah, even bleeding-edge proton, it still doesn't launch.
Thanks for the help anyway.
make sure to nuke the prefix and any mods
The one in compatdata?
yea
Still nothing.
I guess I'll download some clean files from somewhere and replace them.
Maybe something's corrupted.
gpu?
some drivers/card combos have had issues at that screen
Wanted to get battlebit but looks like they're moving from EAC to faceit anticheat which has no plans of supporting linux
unironically gentoo, make sure you have shm in your fstab (since that fricked up my proton) and other than that it works like a charm
I'm installing Gentoo on a vm