>literal rando walks into a casino and shoots some guy
>suddenly the three biggest political powers in the region are bending over to ask you to be their top fixer
I don't wanna hear this bullshit about 'grounded lore' in fallout again
>literal rando walks into a casino and shoots some guy
This is your choice of criticizing Fallout lore?
Not the tunnelers, or little lamplight, or talking deathclaws or psychic mutants? At least having a stand out person has happened in the history books.
TUNNEL SNAKES RULE
little lamplight is based
talking deathclaws are based
psychic powers in a post apocalypse setting is based
You mean to tell me you like the unrealistic parts of Fallout? Someone kill this anon now!
>little lamplight is kawaii
>talking deathclaws are kawaii
>psychic powers in a post apocalypse setting is kawaii
I am so glad I started making my own wordfilters.
lol, fragile little snowflake
>lol, fragile little mudkip
I replace based and cringe with the same thing, I am just sick of gays like you who can't come up with anything original to say.
Aw that is so based :3
You also forgot that ghouls are immortal now
THE BULL
THE BEAR
The divide has fallen, millions must be ghoulified
I beat NV eariler today and everything surrounding this homie is so weird to me.
Is he a meta character that demonstrates what happens when an npc seeks revenge for the player blindly doing quests?
Was all the build up across the DLCs really just for a guy who wanted revenge for a thing the player literally doesn't get the chance to give a frick about?
I understand why he has the hate boner for the NCR but why does he buckle and let you nuke either faction under the basis of "they both same" ultimately being a massive hypocrite about making you choose.
Ulysses was a cut companion from the game that was supposed to be the legion companion and give insight on how it's alright living in their territory. Obsidian maintained a hard-on for the character and decided to make him the main character for the DLCs. The idea was for it to be this dramatic character and event from your past that would be immune to different roleplays, it's all shit you accidentally and unwittingly did while delivering shit, which your character has to have done due to the nature of the game's plot.
That makes a lot of sense actually. The parts where he's just explaining shit to you is very much like a companion offering you a view of the world of someone who's seen it all and why the parts where he's an antagonist are so undercooked.
>strawman the thread
I mean if a guy got shot in the head,survived, traveled across a deadly wasteland, managed to secure enough money/intellect to get into the strip AND went into the bossmans own casino and made him run off/killed him, I'd think I'd want to hire this guy too especially if he has been inside the lucky 38 which no one has been in for centuries
It's also important to remember that it was a double tap.
Doc Mitchell is REALLY good at his job
It’s because the securitrons aka Mr House is watching you the whole game so he sees how valuable you are
You killed one of his top rivals
nobody knows about this. in the eyes of the people dude is a terminator
I'm not big on NV, I honestly prefer 3 over that since it's more fun. But even I have to admit that NV, at the very least, tries to make sense of the story and it succeeds
4's entire story was written by people who THINK they know Fallout lore when they've never played any of the games in their entire life
House already hired you, it makes perfect sense he'd offer you more work when you completed a pivotal task.
This an also the NCR and Legion both see you waltz into the Lucky 38, they both want House dead. You're their only option
>avatargay
leave
Reminder that Bethesda has made ancient aliens under the mojave canon and they'll be a major player in the Fallout show fighting the tunnelers
fallout 2 had literal talking deathclaws, ghosts, psychics, giant talking rats, and the xenomorph from alien as a enemy, but a shitpost terminal entry in a shitpost quest is where you draw the line
>talking deathclaws
science experiment
>ghosts
one-off quest
>psychics
Also in Fallout 1
>giant talking rats
also science experiment
>xenomorph from alien
It's just a FEV experiment that the player character perceives as an alien, its not an actual alien
Anon come on you don't need to defend Fallout 2 for the silly shit. Though people thinking Fallout 1 also doesn't have stupid stuff like ghouls that heal from radiation also baffle me. The setting was never that serious.
Do ghouls actually heal from radiation in fallout 1, I know there are glowing ones in the necropolis vault but I can't think of a way to irradiate them and they're very weak
I'm not actually sure. Could be a F2 or F3 retcon for healing specifically. Radiation for sure has no negatives on them though even in F1. It's also why ghouls are no use to the unity as the more radiated one is the less effective the FEV will be.
why do Black folk keep complaining about Hakunin ambiguously being psychic when Psykers are in both Fallout 1 and New Vegas?
Because it's more overt. You'll run into Hakunins messages but people gloss over The Master giving you psychic damage in the text box as well as possibly missing the Psyker prisoners in The Cathedral. Plus there's also the debate that psychic != telepathic but mind powers as a whole is just sci-fi magic.
The master is 50s-70s scifi psychic
Hakunin is fantasy psychic
I honestly don't care I hate tribals for other reasons and I knew the hakunin psychic messages were just drag and drop replacements for the water chip timer warnings
Mama Murphy is the only true psychic in the series. The rest are charlatans.
That's just a theory, My fellow autist. Those tunneled could be human .
NCR contacts you after you walk out of the Lucky 38 as they should. Anyone going in there must be a big deal. House contacts you because he fricking hired you to deliver the chip and he needs to make sure of where your loyalties lie.
Caesar contacts you after you leave the Tops. I can't really excuse that one
>Caesar contacts you after you leave the Tops. I can't really excuse that one
Caesar has the best spies in the wasteland and they've been keeping tabs on the Courier. Benny also gets captured by the Legion if he escapes from the Strip and you're the one he's fleeing from so there's that.
they contacted me (and caesar's larpers too) after I IGNORED house and walked directly to Benny's Shitsino and killed him in it right then and there
doesn't make as much sense as "the first guy to walk into House's dormant casino in like, ever!!"
Couriers aren't 'rando's. They're the hardest bastards in the West.
>hey deliver this platinum chip from Junk Town to New Vegas
>Junk Town to New Vegas
>I'll pay you 250 caps
>250 caps
>250
Hardest b***hES in the west, for sure.
Being a solo mailman in a world with deathclaws, giant scorpions, raiders, etc. for 250 caps on a good delivery and managing to not be dead?
>doing obscenely dangerous work for little to no pay is le heckin based and masculine guys
Grifters were a greater danger to mankind than one could have conceived.
That's like saying no one should ever be a firefighter.
True but I'm willing to chalk it up to wobbly game logic rather than a clear thought out pricing scheme for post apocalyptic shipping.
You can barely buy jack shit with 250 caps for the amount of trek a courier would do to walk a chip that far.
Even worse, if you argue it with House, he only goes up to 1000-1250 chips in reward for the dangerous, brainbusting you did.
In the TV show the Junk Jet was 250 caps
You'd have to pay me to use that thing
There's got to be something in the water with couriers, It can't be a coincidence that both Ulysses and the courier are the only characters in new vegas with the capacity to get 10 in all stats. Ulysses makes sense because he was an elite legionairre but the courier for all we know could be a dang cryopreserved genetically modified pre war super soldier. If you're surviving as a courier then chances are you have a certified background in badassery.
>meanwhile daniel wynd: gets capped by escaped powder gangers outside the primm office
what a b***h
It’s a job that requires you to trek across usually dangerous and hostile territory all on your own for the most part. It’s just a job that requires you to be tough to be successful, you don’t hear about other couriers because they either quit or died like the dude outside of Mojave Express.
Only Courier 6 (you) was notably mentioned by Ulysses to trek some fricked up dangerous roads. Most other couriers, and traders, stuck to the safer tried and true roads. Ulysses claims you walked some dangerous road through the Divide so much, you started leading people to build a community there.
Ulysses is a schizo though
I agree
rando
>gets shot in the head
>survives
>treks across the mojave wasteland purely for revenge
>walks into a man's own casino, caps him, and takes the platinum chip
>literal rando
>every mayor player wants to kill Mr House
>courier 6 is the only one who can enter his casino
it's that simple
You dropped a couple of important elements in your story, bucko.
Your the ONLY person who can talk to House in "Person" as far as they know and they all want him dead
D
>bethesda makes the player character the chosen one (some guy who helps turn on a water filter, some guy who joins up with some faction in boston)
>seethe
>obsidian makes a fricking mailman the chosen one that decides the fate of the known universe
>zomg best writing ever
can we skip to the part where you spam your indian wordcurry image folder
>everyone that criticizes new vegas and its awful writing and game design is the italian guy 40IQ tourists think is indian
Go back.
>anon writes multiple paragraphs carefully explaining why I'm wrong
>I use meme arrows to call him "moron"
gg ez :^)
Can anyone fill me on on why NVgays had a meltdown over this series? I liked NV and I thought the show was perfectly fine
Haven't watched a tv show in 20 years, no idea
The NCR got fricked and Shady Sands is a crater. With how far back the flashback is, Shady Sands would've been gone at the time of New Vegas.
Discrepancy aside, with how much moronic raiders that would rather get ripped apart by geckos. It makes sense one of them would set off a nuke and get rid of the NCR's Congress.
Todd Howard came out and said Shady Sands was nuked after new Vegas, not before. FNV fans had a meltdown over mostly nothing besides Shady Sands being gone. He even clarified the NCR still exists.
A portion of FNV fans are severely autistic and tribalistic and literally want any reason to turn every discussion everywhere into a condemnation of Bethesda. They’re not completely wrong but they’re insane and lie about shit a lot as well.
>Todd said this, Todd said that
Todd couldn't even tell the fricking morons where Shady Sands WAS
There must have been two, and they nuked the wrong one. Haha, whoops! Silly Dougie.
exactly, todd's opinion doesn't matter also the gay dev forgot his name is also a nobody
>gay dev forgot his name
>Tim Cain the guy who literally fathered Fallout 1 and Arcanum is a sellout and a nobody now for trying to be a civil developer and friends with Todd like a normal person and not a bitter teenage nerd contrarian starting conspiracy theories about game companies
>couldn't even tell the fricking morons where Shady Sands WAS
Why does this matter? You never see a map in the show.
Because they're in LA for most of the show, Shady Sands should be 200 fricking miles north of where they put it in the show.
Also, keep in mind that the name "Angel's Boneyard" doesn't appear ONCE in this show.
Nor does any mention of the Followers, or the Master, or anyone else who would be known in the region.
>we have two options
>we can place our show in one of the most detailed and described areas in the setting
>or we can place it ANYWHERE else to avoid any potential lore conflicts
>frick it, hold my beer, CALIFORNIA HERE WE COME!
I can excuse the master not coming up. William II doesn't come up very often in the modern world
True, but Hitler comes up quite often, especially when he did shit right in your backyard and you can still see some of his soldiers walking around or on wanted posters.
I mean, Vault 31/32/33 are literally within the shouting distance of the Cathedral. It's like going to the Red Square and nobody wants to bring up Lenin's Mausoleum.
>The Master sent rape squads all over the boneyard forcefully cracking open vaults
>But he magically missed entire communities because the writers of the show didn't even bother to crack open a wiki
The worst part is the Vault isn’t even hidden, it’s just sticking up from the beach, even if it wasn’t on record even the biggest moron would see that shit and say “hey Lou we got another one”.
Okay. The showrunners said they didn’t retcon Vegas. And Todd. Multiple people. And Tim Cain. And even the actors. Sorry, I guess the image board full of /misc/schizos with an obvious agenda is actually literally right about everything every time? Give me a break, this is rageslop arguments and you know it. You can at least criticize the show for something real like the uninspired direction and writing that divorces it from Fallout 1. Or do you need a YouTuber or credible source like twitter to give you your opinion, anon?
>Okay. The showrunners said they didn’t retcon Vegas. And Todd. Multiple people. And Tim Cain. And even the actors.
1. The show runners and the actors haven’t even played NV
2. Tim didn’t work on NV
3. That goes against what’s shown in the show itself
>I guess the image board full of /misc/schizos
No one said anything about politics, how about you go back to whatever shithole you came from, it’s clear you’re just spouting horseshit you’ve heard about this place with zero thought.
Trust the experts
>Todd Howard came out and said Shady Sands was nuked after new Vegas, not before
Damage control horseshit that isn’t backed up by what’s in the show.
This wouldn't be such a sticking point if the initial response was just
>it was a simple error, it happens
Instead we get a series of mental gymnastics where we pretend that, not only was it not a simple mistake, but also it is actually clear it isn't a mistake because something something fall of rome while ignoring the clear contextual differences something something it's a timeline so the only undated item isn't referring to what is very clearly implied. And only after that, do we roll out
>Todd said...
While it does irritate me that they made that frick up, it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things and isn't at the heart of the issue with the show. But then people bend over backwards to defend it.
Why is it that they can’t just admit that they fricked up? It’s extremely clear that’s the case, Nolan even admitted he only played 3 and didn’t even finish it. Are they worried that if the show isn’t canon that that will somehow stop people from looking into Fallout? And why even set it on the west coast? They could have easily made a set that looked like something out east.
That's why I get confused at the kneejerk "NV fanboy" reaction to the gripe. The showrunners made a basic mistake, take it on the chin, move on. And when NVgays seethe over it endlessly, then you can make fun of them. But instead, the fans of the show are so completely incapable of handling this cinemasins-tier criticism of the show that they absolutely must try to defend this very clear (and minor) mistake. The inability to handle it with a simple "it happens" makes them look like actual deranged fanboys.
How is a major faction being destroyed before the events of the game considered a “ cinemasins-tier criticism” that’s like if the Death Star was blown up after attack of the clones.
>them look like actual deranged fanboys
Because they are, most of them don’t even like the games, they’re either bandwagoning morons or corporate drones that dick ride their favorite company 24/7.
I mean, that how JJ Abrams got rid of the New Republic in TFA, because they were getting in the way of his Rebels vs Empire story.
What does that have to do with what I said? My example was an event occurring at a point that would make no sense.
It's a cinemasins-tier criticism because it doesn't actually nail the core issue with the show, instead sticking to a gripe that could be solved with thirty second edit. Removing the NCR from the setting and making the West Coast into a wacky shithole was the core problem, some minor continuity error is not the ultimate TRVTH NVKE that is going to sink the show. It is, at best, a good example proving that the showrunners never touched a Fallout game. That's what it is, a small amount of evidence for something that was already stated outright by the showrunners, and there are much more critical parts of the show which can be used to show why that's a problem.
Considering that that one mistake retcons an entire game it absolutely does. And instead of just acknowledging it they just insist that it’s still canon while also saying that the NV still happens which is contradictory.
If they were willing to just say
>it was a continuity error, oh well
Then the timeline gets retconned. Again, it's not a big deal. The problem is the overall direction of the show, and that is where the meaningful criticism is.
is more or less right, you could spend all your time talking about a ten second scene that could get axed, retconned, or otherwise adjusted without much fanfair; but obviously this isn't the actual problem with the show and even if this issue were corrected, it wouldn't fix things. It's hyper focusing on the most pedantic issue while everything else just slides because all of the focus is thrown on a five second clip.
>it was a continuity error, oh well
But they didn’t do that and they’re not going to, you can act as if it’s nothing and it doesn’t contribute but it’s the catalyst of all the dumb goofy shit that the show has. Its all about creating the moronic theme park or post apocalyptia and making everyone a cliche or a joke.
I'm aware that they didn't do that, or at the very least the fans are trying their hardest to pretend that this wasn't an error. But the entire issue gets defused with a snap. This isn't the place where you should rest your dislike of the show, as a basic concession would suddenly leave you with no solid ground. We both know the issue with the show extends well beyond the chalkboard timeline. Like I said earlier, it is just evidence the showrunners didn't play the games. But they also already said they didn't play the games, so it is ultimately unnecessary for anything beyond a quick cinemasins style jab. When you are arguing with a fanboy of the show, you shouldn't get into a twenty post autism fight over the chalkboard timeline that was on screen for ten seconds. You should point to the much more substantive problems, the shows tone, its Fallout 4 setting, its "everything is focused on the pre-War" plot, things like that. But instead, everything gets caught up in this detail, while the much larger issues slip by.
>But the entire issue gets defused with a snap
That isn’t happening and isn’t going to happen, if some guy keeps spitting on everyone’s windows you can say “well the police can stop him so you shouldn’t be upset” but when they do nothing and plan to continue doing nothing then it’s just hollow sentiment and shoulda coulda woulda. Also I mentioned how it was a contributor to all the dumb whacky shit.
There's better evidence for the show having stupid wacky shit, like the scene directly after where apparently the remnants of Shady Sands (formerly the Boneyard) are all cargo cultists now for some reason and rub ashes on their naked bodies for some reason because they are all obsessed with Muldaver for some reason. The show is absolutely rife with stupid shit, everyone in Filly dressing like they just came out of the dustiest BDSM club in California, teeth being bought and sold to be used in ammunition (???), Beavis and Butthead being organ harvesters, and on and on. Instead you are getting locked into arguments with morons over chalkboards, and the only take away a casual observer has is that the main issue with the show is chalkboards.
You mean a major faction being nuked by a cryogenically frozen vault tec employee because he was cucked isn’t already completely moronic on its own?
Yes, exactly. This is what you should be harping on. The main fricking plot being about stupid pre-War idiots. The setting being completely moronic. The show missing potential because, even if we ignore the chalkboard, they still left out a massive faction which had room for interesting storytelling. You could absolutely flood a thread with every single issue with the show, instead every thread is
>chalkboard bad
>hurr durr fall of rome????
>no chalkboard bad
>hurr durr timeline????
>no chalkboard bad
>hurr durr Todd said????
Repeating ad nauseum.
>Yes, exactly. This is what you should be harping on
It is what I’m harping on, just because I didn’t word as that that doesn’t mean that it’s not the fricking issue. And again you can’t even defend it you either say it doesn’t matter or this moronic strawman shit.
homie, the problem is with framing. If someone posts
>what's wrong with the show
And the immediate response is entirely couched in "chalkboard bad, it retcons New Vegas", you leave yourself in an incredibly weak position while barely touching on the core problems. All it takes is someone saying "it didn't retcon New Vegas" and you are left with essentially nothing. You have "the writers obviously didn't play the games, because this is a basic frick up". Okay. The writers also explicitly said they didn't play the games. Or you can really try to stretch it to make some broader argument about tone, but absolutely no observers are catching that. You could bring up what happens directly after the chalkboard, the stupid naked ash scene, which makes a much more solid case. Instead, you are getting locked into an argument with fanboys that will continue to insist that the timeline wasn't a frick up. I'm sorry you don't get this, but you really need to before you get trapped in another argument about the chalkboard when there are better avenues to shit on the show.
>And the immediate response is entirely couched in "chalkboard bad, it retcons New Vegas", you leave yourself in an incredibly weak position
Being reductive is always the gayest shit you can do and shows you can’t argue normally. I gave my point and explained it thoroughly and the best you could say was that something that wasn’t going to happen would fix it so I should worry about it and then when I went more in depth you acted like this it somehow was different from what I had said before despite it being on the same exact problem.
Look, I'm telling you how it is. There is a reason why every defense of the show is about the chalkboard alongside other continuity issues and completely ignores the criticism of its moronic tone, setting, and plot. Observers are going to reduce your argument down to "chalkboard bad" because every thread devolves into arguments over the chalkboard. And it was fixed, Todd gave an ad hoc rationalization for the chalkboard not retconning New Vegas. Is it stupid? Sure, because it was obviously a rationalization born out of a continuity error instead of an intentional explanation. But it still patches up the issue, as New Vegas is not retconned. Of course, what it doesn't patch up is the absolute absence of the NCR, which should be the main point you hammer down instead. I'm going to leave you to argue with the other guy about the chalkboard, but once he has circled around for the third time back to the Fall of Rome or whatever, consider what I said. You are getting locked into a dumbfrick autism argument over a pedantic detail, and to the outside observer, it appears your main issue with the show is a continuity error. And both you and him know it is a continuity error, so clearly there is an interest there in keeping you locked in some stupid shitfest. You need to force the point away from the chalkboard.
> Look, I'm telling you how it is. There is a reason why every defense of the show is about the chalkboard alongside other continuity issues and completely ignores the criticism of its moronic tone, setting, and plot
Blatant generalization and completely irrelevant to this situation given that that isn’t what happened. Don’t defend reductive nonsense.
>And it was fixed
Todd saying something without acknowledging it was a mistake (which you also acknowledged) isn’t fixing it, like I said they aren’t going to fix it so your solution of not caring is completely useless.
>Its all about creating the moronic theme park or post apocalyptia and making everyone a cliche or a joke
Everything in Bethesda Fallout is a wasteland with shacks? Atlantic City says hi. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Atlantic_City
Why and how is Atlantic City intact?
Anybody that looks at ACB is gonna assume it's nuked already and leave it be. The apocalypse allowed an improvement
It’s not a continuity error because they never meant to imply the NCR was destroyed altogether in 2277 to begin with and the showrunners said that. They just delivered that lord in a moronic confusing way and sent the wrong message and it’s too late now. People act like an inaccuratey written chalkboard is stone cold canon to start a shitstorm.
>they never meant to imply the NCR was destroyed altogether in 2277
Is that why nothing else is said or shown to back that up aside from the words of morons that haven’t even played the games? Cut the moronic mental gymnastics.
Doubt. And even if you are right, still dumb. It moves from a continuity error to a massive frick-up in practice that has essentially the identical result.
Reading the interviews, I don't think the showrunners give a frick in the first place. It's Todd that wants to make this show canon and he's going to gaslight a whole planet to make it so.
Maybe Todd should've tardwrangle the showrunners better beforehand, so now he doesn't have to do insane mental gymnastics.
Which actually makes things even more muddled. Todd's stubborn insistance that the show is canon and everything fits the lore is bizarre, when you can obviously see the show playing fast and loose with the setting and contradicting a lot of the lore of the games.
But Todd said it's all canon and the show is lore-accurate, refused to elaborate and left. And now the show fanboys are using this as an appeal to authority. How very Rian Johnson of him.
>vault-tec starting the apocalypse because WE CAN MAKE MONEY IF WE'RE THE ONLY COMPANY LEFT
>vault-tec nuking shady sands, made worse by the continuity error
>ghouls vaping rad-piss to stay sane
>ghoulification somehow being an effective immortality ticket (but their noses still rot off lol)
>Sinclair and House sitting in on the meeting to assfrick the world for money
>vault-tec starting the apocalypse because WE CAN MAKE MONEY IF WE'RE THE ONLY COMPANY LEFT
It’s not about money. It’s about power. The onus of capitalism is the money equates to power. If you have all the power you are going to be the wealthiest by default.
>vault-tec nuking shady sands, made worse by the continuity error
There wasn’t a continuity error. People misread a chalkboard. Todd Howard clarified on it.
>ghouls vaping rad-piss to stay sane
This doesn’t break anything.
>ghoulification somehow being an effective immortality ticket (but their noses still rot off lol)
Fallout 2 established this and hada ghoul who slept underground (coffin willie)
>Sinclair and House sitting in on the meeting to assfrick the world for money
House and Sinclair are not shown agreeing. Just being present and questioning how Vault Tec knows the world will end, then it just cuts there.
Criticize the show for something real and stop eating up viral ragebait.
hope you get raped by a pack of feral Black folk you dumbfrick amazon shill
>It’s not about money. It’s about power. The onus of capitalism is the money equates to power. If you have all the power you are going to be the wealthiest by default.
I don't know man, it just feels like a greedy capitalist fatcat would rather fly in a private jet and sip champagne on a yacht, all provided for by masses of customers and an underclass of workers to keep the industries that provide these comforts going. I don't think he'd enjoy living underground eating hard rations instead.
>There wasn’t a continuity error. People misread a chalkboard. Todd Howard clarified on it.
Now, was this before or AFTER the fans of the games started complaining that the show had no fricking respect for the continuity and Todd tried to damage control?
It doesn't matter what the nature of Todd's statement is. The fact of the matter is that there's no more continuity error, simple as that. You're just trying your hardest to seethe at nothing.
I can't tell if you're larping as a moron or genuinely moronic
>No argument
You lost
>redditspacing
Opinion discarded
Does that really matter? Anyone that pretends to be moronic is by default a moron.
>error is still there
>no because todd said so
Meds
>no because todd said so
Yes
>I liked NV and I thought the show was perfectly fine
>Shady Sands nuked in 2277
Are you morons larping now to sell this bullshit?
Todd already debunked this. The 2277 date likely refers to when the NCR started to go downhill.
Then why didn’t it say that? It literally just says fall of shady sands and then a fricking mushroom cloud, every other date and event is given but for some reason that one is left blank. Yet people keep going through this same series of mental gymnastics to try and say that it was just the beginning.
It still lines up with the timeline. You gays are just looking for reasons to be angry at this point.
>Shady Sands falls in 2277
>no other event or date is listed
>this some how means everything lines up
Again cut the moronic mental gymnastics.
>shady sands falls in 2277
>and erm, like 4-6 years later, it got nuked. yeah, we didn't put a date on that
>also vegas is just the tower and 1-2 buildings now. no freeside in sight
just admit the showrunners did frick all for research. stop being a dicksucker.
>what did they get wrong?
>this is what they got wrong
>why are you complaining?
Why ask?
You do realize that this explanation makes no sense. You don't put a date for a beginning of the decline. Berlin has fallen in 1945. Using this logic, one may say that the Fall of Berlin was in 1943, when fricked up the Operation Barbarossa, because that's where the things STARTED to go bad for the Nazis.
You see how ridiculous it sounds?
New Vegas fanboys be like
>yeah, I can't possibly think of an example where the Fall of X was used to denote a continued event instead of just the very day and year it all crumbled to dust
>there is nothing that would help such an example spring to mind
>welp, back to dilating and taking my titty skittles
I am pretty sure Rome after 476 was inoperantional, because it was taken over by barbarians. By contrast, Shady Sands in 2281 is still very much operational. It even held the election few years prior.
So, what is your point, Todd?
>476
Thank you for showing how much of a silly billy you really are. At this point, I have to assume you're a falseflag shill hired by Bethesda, because no normal fool would have this much foolishness.
asinine to imply that every other event had a date tied to it, except for the nuclear mushroom cloud which follows after 'fall of shady sands'
just admit you're a hopeless defender of shitty writers who don't even pay attention to the timeline these games take place in; they saw when fallout 3 took place and used that year. nobody was into the lore enough to realize "naur wait, new vegas takes place in 2281"
It is the Fallout 4 show. It's only at the very end that there is actually some semblance of ideological conflict, and that is massively overshadowed by Mr. Vault Tec and Mrs. I hate Vault Tec. Everything leading up to that point is wacky wasteland murder in a world entirely devoid of grounded attempts at forming any sort of civilization with the major attempt on the West Coast, the NCR, just being absent outside of Muldaver and her goons. I think there is room for course correction, but I doubt they will take it.
My only concern is the location of Shady Sands. Ghoul lore was built on shaky foundations to begin with
As another anon said, it's just Fallout 4 The TV Show. I think people forget how mainstream F4 is. Critic reviews are sitting in the high 80s on metacritic. It supposedly sold more units than Skyrim during a certain time frame. It used to have the concurrent players record on steam.
With all that. it's no wonder that a massive normalgay audience is enjoying a show made for them.
>Can anyone fill me on on why NVgays had a meltdown over this series?
Ah yes the old I know the answer to x but I’m going to ask the question anyways so I can shitpost
I'm not angry about it just yet. Need to see where S2 goes especially since it seems like it'll be set in the Mojave.
>expecting them to deliver satisfying answers to questions they never intended the audience to ask
this show was made for the people who say "just turn off your brain bro"
I didn't like how it made the Ghoul and Lucy the two most important people who have ever existed in the entire setting.
>I didn't like how it made the Ghoul and Lucy the two most important people who have ever existed in the entire setting.
Anon the show happens after all the vidya
Yeah, no shit
>the two most important people who have ever existed in the entire setting.
How? House is in the show and did far more than Coop or Lucy in terms of importance. Coop quit Vault Tec. Lucy isn’t the daughter of the CEO or anything, just some random somewhat high ranking guy.
Idk, I'm starting to think that all video game movie/TV adaptations are fricking horrible ideas. The stories don't translate well and none of the writers have any respect for the source material. Fricking TV writers gargle penises all day.
nerd reasons that normies would laugh at me for mentioning:
>throws out the interesting West Coast setting and replaces it with of a clone of Bethesda's East Coast (post-post apocalypse with new nations rising? ppft! Fallout is supposed to be a ruined wasteland where the BoS fights raiders!)
>moves the location of Shady Sands with no regard to the implications for Fallout 1 just so the main characters can walk by it in LA
>no references to any of the other settlements in Fallout 1/2, add a discount Megaton instead
>makes the Brotherhood into the dominant faction in all of America, controlling a vast empire 20 years after being on the ropes
>theme of the series has been changed from "humans will always destroy each other" to "corporations bad"
>China not even mentioned, commies are painted in a sympathetic light
>New ghoul mechanics make it basically impossible for non-ferals to exist long-term
reasons that even normies should agree with and have me baffled at the show being hailed as the best thing ever:
>can't take itself seriously ever. every important scene has to be undercut by some stupid joke. and the jokes are almost never even good.
>50s music playing all the time, even during fight scenes.
>Maximus is a piece of shit but the show thinks he's a good guy we should root for. Also despite betraying the BoS a bunch of times he gets promoted to Knight somehow??
>no energy weapons. shouldn't the BoS have a lot of them?
>people acting moronic on multiple occasions so the plot can move forward
>the stupid filler in Vault 4, who thought any of that was a good idea?
And a ton more. I don't get how so many people like this piece of shit. Even if I pretend it's a new post-apocalyptic IP it still sucks.
Yeah I guess Walton Goggins and that Ella chick do a good job acting and the set/costume design looks pretty good (for a Fallout 4 adaptation), but is that seriously enough to make it a good, nay, great show, despite its flaws?
gonna be real Fampachi I like the Vault 4 bit since mad scientist stuff is my favorite.
is a piece of shit but the show thinks he's a good guy we should root for. Also despite betraying the BoS a bunch of times he gets promoted to Knight somehow??
Maximus obviously isn't supposed to be a good guy you root for. There's a reason the show keeps you questioning up until the very end whether or not he actually shoved a razor in the troony's boot. The three main protagonists are obviously a play on the game's karma system - Lucy is the selfless optimist Good, Ghoul Goggins is a complete piece of shit Evil, and Maximus is the cowardly, self-serving Neutral. I can't believe I'm the only one who picked up on this shit.
You're moronic if you think "The Ghoul" is evil when he's the only person who was "good" Pre-War. He is clearly the grey neutral (despite being heckin' mean and making Lucy drink from a puddle*). The Black person is going to be the most evil and betray Lucy when the time is right.
>cuts off her finger
so good my bros!
>the only person who was "good" Pre-War
Damn... it's almost as if he... became different character from 200 years of ghoulification and shooting people to afford his anti-feral medication?
>"show is canon" >:^)
Two can play this game, Todd
The dumb twist at the end where all the greedy capitalist corporations from the games get namedropped in a plot to nuke the world in order to induce demand for the vaults and make a greater profit or whatever. The whole plot makes no sense on the face of it because all of their wealth would be rendered completely worthless within their lifetimes by nuking the world and I think all the greedy billionaires would rather be sitting in jacuzzis under the sun than eating preserved frozen food in a bunker sucking down recycled air.
The dumbest part about it is that there's such a simple fix to not make the concept not implicitly moronic while still carrying the message of "le corporations bad"; that all the corporations just wanted to ride high off the government contracts they're getting (like what's already established throughout all the previous games), and are using their influence to deliberately stoke tensions between the US and China, maybe even to the point of having anti-war figures assassinated to prevent any threat to the perpetual cold war. Then they learn too late they can't control human nature, shit spirals out of control, and the nukes fly. But that implicates the glorious CCP at least partially in the total destruction of the world and Amazon doesn't want to piss off China.
They don’t want to piss off China because China has a billion little consumer manlets, ripe and ready to have their money taken from them.
I simply have no interest in watching anything that Amazon or Netflix creates.
Tfw when they revealed Shady Sands getting nuked I thought they made The Apocalypse ending to Lonesome Road canon but it was just some vault schmuck
I have only played Fallout 1/2 and fricking hated that show.
The only remotely good was the ghoul dropping oneliners and just shooting everyone.
Its sort of like being the new guy in prison and to show everyone you're not a b***h, you rape the biggest homie you can find. They'll respect you after that.
what about the biggest homie? he'll want revenge, and his goons will join him, to prove it wasn't a fluke rape. you spent all your energy the first time, but this time, he has the element of surprise. you're cooked.
homies mind always on the rape
NCR and Legion are instantly interested in the only guy into the wasteland that can walk into the Lucky 38 and shoot House in the fricking head.
It isn't a difficult concept.
>guy kills the boss of a casino and meets a man nobody has met personally in centuries after coming back from the dead
I think I'd be interested in hiring this guy. Only House treats you like the most important piece of his plan. The NCR basically sends you on a series of suicide missions, and Caesar aggressively trusts you but ultimately you aren't really that important in his plan.
this is why i'm a house guy. everyone else treats you like a b***h. house begs for your loyalty.. you're his top guy
thats not even what happened
>guns need to look cool and weird
>shit point but it has chad so it’s good
This is a literal grifter argument.
Fallout NV gives the character the same amount of backstory as Fallout 3. People like to think you can be anything as the Courier, but no, you're a young guy or girl who accidentally delivered a nuke detonator to The Divide and has a long history of courier work. You can't roleplay as some old man or whatever.
The game never specifies your age.
you're clearly young, from your appearance to your voice clips. you ain't easy pete, homie
You're referred to as a young person by certain NPCs
Couriergays KNEEL
You were already on the radar before you even made it to the Mojave.
Caesar knew you had the chip and House saw you get up and keep walking after getting a new forehead piercing.
The NCR are the only stretch because the story seems to assume you'll already have helped them at the outpost. I can only assume they take an interest in you solely because the Legion and House did.
You can nitpick the timeline all you want, ultimately the problem is with the direction.
I don't care about the BoS and I don't care about the vaults. I wanted a story where humanity gets back on its feet and rebuilds in different ways. Instead we get World of Warcraft except the Alliance is wearing power armor and the Horde is FEV orcs. Nothing ever changes, nothing ever develops, it's a permanent state of stagnation because the writers have no idea how to handle the world outside of the same tired, boring, overused post-apocalyptic tropes.
This. You can't really split hairs over retcons and plot holes when nu!Fallout doesn't even work on a conceptual level.
>Instead we get World of Warcraft except the Alliance is wearing power armor and the Horde is FEV orcs.
It hasn’t been like this since 2008. What are you talking about?
>still getting mad about Fallout in 2024
FO3 came out 16 years ago. If you haven't moved on by now, you're just looking for shit to get mad about.
>3
Bro 2 fricked so many things up the original devs straight up quit during late production...
Fallout fans are crossed over with RPG grognards who are also crossed over with /misc/tards. They’re perpetually mad. Larian put BG3 in front of them and all they could do and talk about was trannies and bear sex. They’ve never once had an honest or good faith opinion about RPGs. They were allegedly mad at the ones that made them fall in love with RPGs and they continue to pretend to be more mad now to uphold their smartguy projection to protect their insecurity about themselves. This is about something much more base and petty than Bethesda taking their favorite toys to let other kids play.
>New Vegas fans claim to be intelligent
>can't even read a chalkboard
really makes ya think
>lol you can’t read a chalkboard
>why are all the other events listed and given dates but not this destruction y talking about
>uhhhhh…IT JUST WORKS STOP TALKING ABOUT
You could at least try.
>no date
>make a headcanon that directly contradicts your game despite, like you said, there being no date
wdhmbt?
>why are all the other events listed and given dates but not this destruction y talking about
>no date
How do you get that from that? Maybe you shouldn’t be saying people can’t read shit if you can’t even read a simple post.
>Every event has a date associated with it besides one
>decide that the one that doesn't have a date must've happened earlier because there's a date earlier (and one later)
>Word of Todd clarifies it took place at time X
>decide he must be wrong because you know better
>Word of Todd
You mean that one guy that people sing entire songs about how much he lies on a dialy basis?
You think Todd would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?
Yes?
perish the thought
>the sun rises in the east and sets in the west
>this can be visibly seen
>some guy says the opposite
>he is right
So you lack reading comprehension and have shitty critical thinking skill.
>have incomplete information
>make inaccurate assumption
>get corrected, individual elaborates on what you misread
>double down and claim you're clearly right despite evidence to the contrary
ah yes
>have incomplete information
If it’s incomplete they would have said that, but they haven’t
>make inaccurate assumption
If it was inaccurate you would be able to give an explanation outside of “because todd said so”
>get corrected, individual elaborates on what you misread
You’re the only one that misread anything and when I pointed it out you immediately tried deflecting to “todd said so, so it’s true”
>double down and claim you're clearly right despite evidence to the contrary
So you’re just projecting now.
>event proceeding says 2277
>arrow to the next event, bomb drops
>arrow from there to the next event, 2291? or whatever
>your moronic mind sees this
>decides it CLEARLY means the bomb happened in 2277
How are you so stupid?
So why didn’t the bombing have a date and a label to it? Why would they do the same for every other and not that? This is the very first point I brought up and you can’t even properly address it, just use the same exact cope.
>so why didn't it have a date
who knows? Sorry you're literally such a moron the simple concept of an arrow notating the passage of time breaks your mind.
>can’t answer a simple question
>just gets assblasted and acts smug
Looks like you’re having a hard time, maybe less mental gymnastics and corporate wienersucking and more using your head.
>ask a question with no answer
>person responds to you explaining they don't know, and why it's irrelevant
>keep doubling down about some all important question
based moron
>ask a question with no answer
It has an answer, I gave it but you refuse to acknowledge it and instead just keep coming up with copes
>person responds to you explaining they don't know, and why it's irrelevant
I like how you need to try to say it doesn’t matter as well, because you’re getting to the point where you’ll just say you don’t care as the last big cope. If it was actually irrelevant you would have said so from the start or not engaged in the first place
>keep doubling down about some all important question
Again projection.
>it has an answer
it has an assumption you made, doesn't mean it's the actual answer. But again, it doesn't matter. You're a moron who thinks that for some reason (the actual mystery here) an arrow denoting a passage of time doesn't count because you don't want it to. You'd think you'd be glad your game didn't get non-canon'd, but here we are.
It would've been better if it was rendered non-canon at this point.
Because as of now, the show makes FO1, 2 and NV irrelevant. Nothing you did in those game matters anymore.
It's similar to how the ST fricks over the original Star Wars.
>it has an assumption you made, doesn't mean it's the actual answer
You mean aside from the fact that all you can do to prove it wrong is say “because Todd said so” and all your other information doesn’t add up. It was an error from a bunch of morons that didn’t play the game stop hurling through hoops and just accept it.
>it doesn't matter
Again if it didn’t matter you wouldn’t be arguing or even engaged me, you’re saying this because you know you’re wrong and need to try and act like you don’t care like a child throwing a tantrum.
>an arrow denoting a passage of time
Yet not other date is given nor are any other events mentioned, it’s amazing how you kept repeating how I was doubling down when you do this shit, projection at its most pathetic.
You really just keep yapping, huh.
>no argument
Yeah that’s how conversations work, if you don’t like it you shouldn’t have engaged like I pointed out. Now go be a homosexual somewhere else.
>no argument
there's a nice anecdote about the futility of pissing into the wind, which would be what would happen if I continued this meaningless, endless back-and-forth with you. So, instead, I'm just going to stop engaging with your moronic ass, as you clearly aren't getting it.
>there's a nice anecdote about the futility of pissing into the wind
You hold this sentiment but yet you decided to engage and you’re still replying, odd.
>I'm just going to stop engaging with your moronic ass
In reality this is what happened
>engage in mental gymnastics
>get called out
>use flawed logic
>it fails
>get btfo
>cope and say it doesn’t matter like a child
>get called out for this multiple times
>finally stomp off to throw a hissy fit
The only one who isn’t getting anything here is (You) since you immediately had to start crying how it doesn’t matter when your arguments failed.
yep, So true buddy, so true.
I mean considering that you immediately posted this instead of leaving like you said you would, it absolutely is. Keep seething kid.
>leaving
engaging, as in engaging in a lengthy discussion, once more you fail to parse given information.
>uhhh… acshually I meant that I wasn’t going to argue
Nice cope, not only have you proven you can’t Anna simple question or give any logic to back yourself up, but now you’re just engaging in childish tit for tat.
yea, yep, so true brother
>gets btfo
>throw a tantrum and acts like he doesn’t care while doing pic related
Predictable
Yep, so true, so true. You're right champ.
>agrees that he’s being a massive toddler
Weird admission but I’ll take it.
yep, you got me buddy, it's your win, slugger.
>starts samegayging
Absolutely fuming
>gets called a child
>immediate no u
You can always tell when you strike a nerve with someone when that’s their first reaction, especially if they just keep repeating it.
so true brother
GankerX? Seriously do you think you’re being subtle, are you posting from a Chromebook you stole from school?
Spot on champ, bigly true. Yep.
absolutely big observation, my boy. i think you dismantled us (me)
lol i'm just dogpiling on you because i like yanking chains, and you seem vulnerable
>no bro I’m just trolling
Is that why you only started this after getting btfo? You’re too new and it shows.
i'm not the one coping with "2 people are replying against me? must be samegay"
face it, slugga... you're cooked. hit the bricks, pal
Do you need to take you meds or something? You already admitting to samegayging.
Yep, of course, you called it, m'gamer.
>teenager fails to argue
>tries acting like he doesn’t care
>just throws a tantrum and starts samegayging and putting in more effort than he did before
Do you ever look in the mirror and wonder how you can have such little self awareness? Or do you just layer on so much irony that the mask is all you are now, I know you’ll just reply with another string or moronic zoomer speak but it’s genuinely baffling how anyone can be this demoralized that they would just start rolling around in shit to prove a point.
Spot on man, you've cracked the case. Hey, it takes a big mind to suss out the truth of the matter.
I mean honestly, why would anyone go to such lengths just to make it seem like they didn’t lose an online argument. It’s like someone telling you you’re wrong irl and just screaming and throwing shit, like a child. How can anyone not look at this and think that’s the worst possible version of themselves they could be?
Yeah you've got it man, so true.
You’ve been pretending to troll for over an hour, you can keep making these posts but it’s not going to somehow make it look like you don’t care or are trolling. Or is this just pride, you can leave until you get the last word in so you’re just going to spam the same shit until bump limit so you can convince yourself that you didn’t get btfo?
You know, sometimes there's just a deeper truth, and you've found it.
Are you okay?
You got me buddy.
>are you okay
>you got me
Again reading comprehension, now answer the question.
So true brother, yep.
Are you a thirdie or something? How are you not able to read out three words?
You've cracked the case. Massive calculatory powers, mon fierre.
You got that guy dead to rights. Based!
Can you actually say why you’re still here? What even is the point of engaging if you don’t care? If it’s “for the lulz” then you do care.
So true bro
Yeah I know that’s what you said, I don’t know why you had to immediately rely like that. Do you have these pre typed?
Ave true to you, bro
Even if we give our mental gymnasts the benefit of a doubt, the explanation still doesn't work. Because in NV, Shady Sands is still a very active governmental body in 2281 and NCR has just WON the battle of Hoover Dam. You even get to see the president.
So... how can it fall in 2277? And don't give me this "well, it's the beginning of the fall, naturally". Because, frick me.
>So... how can it fall in 2277
Because the show runners are morons that haven’t played Fallout NV and todd is autistically determined to have the show be canon.
Keep in mind that Todd only realized there is a continuity conflict in the show, when the INTERVIEWER POINTED IT OUT. And put Todd a fan theory on a silver platter. His answer was pretty much:
>hey, Todd, people keep saying that the date 2277 contradicts the events of New Vegas and they are theorizing that Fall of SS and nuking of SS are two separate events. Is it true.
>Yes, yes, sure totally, let's go with that, SS was nuked after New Vegas, no lore conflict, next question.
I am sad that the interviewer didn't ask Todd how SS teleported 200 miles south.
the show writers also decided to manufacture a weak point in power armour for their special snowflake . also they decided to claim that max somehow doesn't know what masturbation is.
Don't make me tap the sign
So.. did Ulysses nuke the NCR or what?
Worse. Much worse
Nope. Vault-Tek beat him to it
So dumb. Bravo Todd.
>NV
>grounded
The game starts with you surviving being shot in the head at point blank.
How well do the first two games hold up
Pretty well, unless you are a zoomer with no attention span.
honestly just play Underrail, the setting is similarly post-apocalyptic but far cooler.
Underrail is too combat-heavy.
fair enough, if you're more into talking your way out of things I could see the complaint.
Underrail unironically has worse pacing and also intentionally copies the frick-ups of the original Fallout games for no fricking reason to its own detriment. Still a good game but wouldn't just say "don't play Fallout 1 and 2, play Underrail instead"
I think I just really like the setting and world building of Underrail, perhaps my dislike of Fo1/2 is painted by how shoddy the world building is due to the modern games and Fo2 being a pretty big tonal shift from 1.
Fricking stupid people
>You're needed by House because you are the guy he hired to deliver the chip. And after you delivered it he needs a capable, trusted person to groom as his right hand man now that Benny is no longer an option.
>NCR and the Legion both hire you because they see throughout the story what you're capable of. Neither of the factions give a frick about you int he beginning until you make a new of yourself in the Mojave. Caesar specifically wants you because he needs someone capable of taking over the Legion after his death.
>man with brain damage chooses another man with brain damage to succeed him and carry out his legacy
oh I am raughing
>Caesar specifically wants you because he needs someone capable of taking over the Legion after his death.
This was NEVER mentioned
If they wanted to be as careful with the timelines and dates of things like Todd said in the interview then it was either an odd choice or a simple muck up to not place a specific date on the bombing of Shady Sands if they didnt want people to be confused or make their own theories because something as lore important as that should definitely have been made crystal clear. That being said I thinks its entirely in the realm of possibility that the show runners and maybe to the extent Bethesda considering their writers have made it clear how little respect they have for the lore just didnt care to know the timelines of things so Todd had to do some quick damage control after they heard all the fuss, which turned out was something easy to 'fix'. I mean this hasn't been the first time Todd decided to by sneaky or straight up lie about things so he's not a very reliable source of truth but I guess some people are still brainwashed by his presentation charm.
Because you're in literal war zone.
You're by default hired by House, eventually he provides more potential work because you have potential. NCR and Legion want House dead because he is a major obstacle and is essentially a wild card to everyone.
NCR want total takeover because it's life or death scenario. They need water and electricity, and Hoover Dam is what they need. House, prevents total control of the dam, so NCR want courier to be their disposable merc who does dirty work and gets rid of House, so they can cash out later with promises of better opportunities and wealth.
Legion is counter culture of all. They are extremely opportunistic and don't care about what it takes, as long they get to control the dam and see fall of the NCR. They are already winning the war, courier only happens to get in their way, so they seize the opportunity to get courier join their ranks and make Nevada's takeover even easier.
If it wasn't courier, Legion would win by default.
>shoots some guy
You kill House, that's the equivalent of basically assassinating the president and getting away with it, of course you're going to get contacted by major powers if you pull that off
he means benny. they give you full pardons to any crimes against their faction if you walk into the tops and kill benny
Then at that point, you either obtained the chip and entered the Lucky 38 with it, or you still have the chip. In either case it would make sense for them to contact you, for the former you are one of the only people who ever got into contact with House and for the latter you have the chip
No it really doesn't. Because at that point, only House knows Benny has the chip. They IMMEDIATELY grant you pardons, both at the same time, after you exit the Tops.
If you're a cuckgay who enters House's 38 before dealing with Benny, then sure, it makes sense. If you're not leashed however, and prefer to ignore Victor's invitation to the Lucky 38 to deal with your revenge, then the other factions should have no means of knowing you just procured the Platinum Chip from that weasel, Benny.
In Caesar's defense, he does mention that you just waltz into the casino of some guy and kill their boss, and almost repercussions. The same could be said of any other casino. But it won't be said. Because the plot wasn't written so.
To be fair Lonesome Road is the author calling that out, too. Not sure it fixes it though.
Why are Troon Vegas gays so fragile????
too much estrogen from the pills
Samegay
troony hands wrote that
>gets called out
>immediatly posts back to back saying the same shit
Why are bethesdrones so deranged?
i see that you have accepted your troonyism
lmao
suicide is next in your future buddy
>gets called out
>starts ranting about trannies
>only one reply
It’s always the same shit, schizo tantrums and screaming about trannies.
>B-B-BUT MUH BETHES-ACK
Shut up baby b***h slave
Troon
NV bros, how do we fight back against these coordinated bethesshill posts???
Seems like were losing…
we need to go reorganise in the discord
>still samegayging
It's over...
Do NV xisters really?????
>posts woman
>calls it a troony
You just can’t help yourself can you?
That's right sister, trans women are real women.
No that’s a woman, Sawyer confirmed it and everything, do you just assume that the woman that was mutated by a virus that takes away all sexual dimorphism is troony? Maybe stop being a lorelet and play the games
HOLY COPE
>it’s a troony
>no it’s not
>greentexts comment and replies to himself
>uhhhh…COPE
Scream it louder, maybe xhell be come a real woman xis!!
>No that’s a woman, Sawyer confirmed it and everything, do you just assume that the woman that was mutated by a virus that takes away all sexual dimorphism is troony? Maybe stop being a lorelet and play the games
This is a woman according to NV troons…. Wow….
It is a woman, bigot.
If thats a woman then the shit in my underwear is gold
Are you just going to keep talking to yourself and spamming this shit for the rest of the thread? You were already proven wrong, stop sperging out and frick off.
i had hot crazy sex with this b***h thanks to my trusty new vegas sex mods 🙂
it got so steamy and wet and dry, hot hot sex, tight FEV ass, nah just kidding!! we stood next to each other A posing while screaming, it was fricking the sexiest hottest shit this side of the origami river, frickin hot damn
didn't ask
i didnt ask to be born or to blow a massive torso sized load on my big hairy chest and have it get all gross and glued up, but here we are yaknow what im saying? am i right?
i'm coerced easily into erp, but you are disgusting... vile, even..
its alright man, oh woops! i spilled some cum on you! haha! woa man, we're gonna have to take those pants of instantly, and im gonna have to get your cum on my pants too!
also, i have like, an hourglass, but instead of sand it uses cum, and when its final drop of cum ripples, it signals to The Cumtorx to rape us, if that happens, we need to escape, you'll be needing this *hands you a zip lock bag of holy-cum*, also, i love you
Both NCR and the Legion want you, because you can work around the red tape the both factions are wrapped in.
NCR want you to make moves they officially can't make. They can't officially waltz into Strip and kill House even though they would love to do it, but when some unaligned party kills him... well, tough.
It's similar with Legion - Caesar wants to keep his followers in the dark, so he can't tell them to go destroy BoS or the robots at the Fort, because they might start asking questions. But and unaligned party might do that.
As to why you specifically? You are the only person to ever enter the Lucky 38 in 200 years a had a face to face with House himself. Therefore, you have access to him.
>literal rando
Dude's a courier in an post apocalyptic Mojave with mutate creatures and gangs running around and it's established that he's been doing it for years. You can't be a literal random and survive in a job like that.
>suddenly the three biggest political powers in the region are bending over to ask you to be their top fixer
>suddenly
House has been watching you since Goodsprings through Victor. He knows how capable the Courier is due to the events of the Divide and the amount of stuff and did even before getting to the Strip. It's said that also the NCR and the Legion has spies watching your move. Courier Six is anything but a "rando".
Low tier pajeet bait thread.
>He
Courier was canonically trans, try playing the game sometime, fricking moron.
Ok this a bait thread. Why do I even waste my time replying in cesspool of a board.
You would’ve picked up on the courier being trans if you played the BIG BANG THEORY themed dlc
It’s not, some moron is just throwing a tantrum because he was btfo.
What do they eat?
These are The Courier's canon SPECIAL stats. Thoughts?
>3 LCK
Funny isn't it
None of the possible canon endings for the courier seem like the fate of an unlucky man
It is, if you back New Vegas and believe in Ulysses saying that the tunnellers will rape the Mojave
Luck is for losers. Real badasses shape their own fate through their actions.
Unlucky people will never be badasses though. That would be lucky.
>4 STR
>takes 8 for anti materiel rifle
Uh I'm thinking cringe
>laffs out loud in Weapon Handling (-2 to all weapons strength requirement) and Reinforced Spine (+2 strength)
>wasting a perk point on that
what kind of build does this lend to?
Endurance is unarmed, isn't it?
it's honestly not that unmanageable
>strength can boosted to 7 with implant and +2 strength from reinforced spine, and weapons handling will reduce weapon strength requirements to 8 maximum. you may need an extra strength point from Lonesome Road or Intensive Training. up to you.
>perception is a bit higher than spec, no need for an implant
>endurance, add the implant to meet the 8 endurance needed for implant grx
>charisma, 6, is well above spec. you can atleast get animal friend and rejoice in befriending rats and mole rats (based as hell). no need for implant
>any intelligence above moronic is workable, 6 will manage you fine
>agility 5, is perfect. an implant will let you get 6 agility, then you can get better criticals perk along with 6 perception
>luck 3 kind of sucks, but it's the trade-off for high charisma. higher luck lets you bust the casinos and get a hefty amount of caps for weapons, but it's not strictly necessary unless you want a hardcore crit build
i'd also like to mention that this special build is lacking special points from what doc mitchell allows you to leave with
i'm too drunk to determine if this courier is missing 2 or 3 special points
Not canon at all. Every NPC from the games don't have the same stats, which I'm guessing is due to balance reasons in this tabletop rpg.
>FNV courier
>3 luck
>6 charisma
Whoever made this is moron. If anything, courier should be 1-3 charisma and high luck build. Not everyone survives getting shot to head, and not everyone can survive frontal lobe damage without turning into either vegetable or unhinged psychopath.
New player build who has no idea how to play. It's definitely not canon build.
>Not everyone survives getting shot to head, and not everyone can survive frontal lobe damage without turning into either vegetable or unhinged psychopath.
In the fallout games surviving getting shot in the head with a 9mm seems pretty common.
Pretty sure House wants to meet you before you get to Benny
Lupus surely gets sent to find you before you do it too, makes no sense that he'd be there with a summons for something you literally just did two minutes ago before you left the building
Would be funny if you purposefully avoided actually doing anything of note before reaching the strip so Caesar's interest in you makes zero sense
simple fact is that if you defend the show (ironically or otherwise) you’re a cucked amazon shill who supports and loves israelites
they should make hand puppets but for penises, and when you cum the mouth opens and it plays like a victory song, i wish i could be a toilet, dont you?