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>Ninja chapter.
Are they MAD? They wanna scare aways buyers?!
Yeah the Ninja isn't really beginner friendly but at the same time it's has the most content out of the 7.
Maybe they wanna show how they improved it? Or they wanna bait any metal gear gay that may play the demo.
Honestly this is very generous of them. Ninja chapter is the only one with the most issues to play of all chapters.
so you're saying I should play Ninja last?
Honestly. Ninja is the one you want to play first if you want secret stuff and don't mind reseting to do so. It's the one with the most replayablitiy.
I watched a LP of the game like 10+ years ago, is the Ninja era the one where you can go pacifist/stealth or something? I remember it had a lot of optional stuff
Yes. You get a reward if you kill no one and you get a reward if you kill everyone.
There's 100 people (plus more monsters) and Oboro keeps track of how many people you kill. if you don't care about pacifist/genocide challenges just kill the men and spare the women
Yep. Do you really think they played livealive before
Honestly, I don't think any one chapter would be a good representation of what the whole game is. But since the Ninja chapter can be beaten in different ways I think it's a good chapter for the demo. There's definitely way worse options.
The game been out for almost 30 years anon
>Niche group that know about the fan translation is all the world.
Frick off.
They spoilered the true final boss in the direct, although is so short and so much stuff is happening on the clip that newbies won't get a lot of it. They wanted to show how they improved "saint alice".
Eyyy nice, the bodies are still there
Holy shit that scream.
It's bad, like so awful my Switch caught on fire and burnt down my house. Posting this from McDonald's wifi
Treehouse played the demo...off stream.
Expect cringe.
>Shimomura made a video for it
cool
>Hironobu Kageyama song at the 21 minute mark
holy FRICK
Weird how they didn't put the Stone Age chapter in the demo.
Why it's weird?
It's basically the tutorial
never played the original but the concept seems cool
how do you guys feel about the HD-2D stuff?
is the original director working on this or anything?
>how do you guys feel about the HD-2D stuff?
love it after 45 mins with the demo of edo japan. sprites look great & the environments are gorgeous. music and voice acting are great too.
>how do you guys feel about the HD-2D stuff?
LOVE IT, STILL FRICKING WAITING FOR THE DRAGON Quest 3 REMAKE
Already have the game preordered Square Enix. Why the frick would I want to play 3 of the chapters early?
Have you played the original? I think the demo ninja chapter is for old fans who want to see how they finally fixed the balance and pacing of that one
Save data transfer
Sorry but isn't this game out already?
Why would they need a demo?
The entire game is out,
Isn't it just a port?
No, it's a remake
The original was out like 30 years ago, it was never localized and got a fan translation only some in the west know, this a full 2D-HD remake.
Man
How does it feel?
To be a fricking moron, I mean...
Does it really take much effort to Google?
Like is it so hard?
Honestly
Why even comment when you just come across like a moron?
You know?
yall think this game will come to steam?
If seem Nintendo was personally asking for this remake according to the director.
is Takashi Tokita working on this?
ignore, found the answer, he is
>Nintendo asks for a Live-A-Live Remake
>Snoy asks for fricking Spider-Man in Avengers
Even a post-Iwata Nintendo knows more about video games than Sony.
Probably eventually
Yes, Square Enix has developed a habit to put everything they make on PC about two years after console release.
I hope so. I mean i can and will play the sfc version one of these days but i wouldnt mind buying the HD remake on steam.
Octopath came to steam, and if you want to get technical you can play it on PC right now if you find a rom of the original and patch it with the fan translation.
Did anyone get a good screenshot of Odio.
Seconding this, but he is covered by the saint Alicia attack.
I'm playing the robot/space chapter and... I can't access the skill menu even though the thing's level 7.
...Is this chapter not going to have any battles...
There's a battle.
Because that chapter is build to be a survival horror of the "you cannot fight" type. Tgere is an ingame arcade you can try for some fights though.
Tell me, because I never played original...
They say you have 3 characters in this demo, each in different period. So is this a game where you pick 1 character and play till the end, or where you need to play with each character to proceed (to chapter 2?) with the game?
Based on the descriptions, you can play and reload on certain savespots if you decide to jump from chapter to chapter. The Knight chapter is missing, which I'm assuming is extreme endgame after you beat all 7
Thank you.
There is 7 (8) characters, you need to finish all the chapters first in order to unlock the last one.
All the chapters except the knight are unlocked from the start.
Each chapter is self contained...but connected...
All will make sense when you finish all them...
HD2D makes the game ugly as sin but I guess at it's core it's still the same game.
so is the combat and stuff improved? read the Hardcore Gaming review and it seemed to have some small issues
Who's the best disciple in the China chapter?
Lyn
Thanks. I thought the bandit kid would've been the best one.
In the SNES game? Li, Yuan second, Sammo third
Li or Yuan, depending on what you value.
I wonder how much of a pain in the ass it was for Square to have to renegotiate the rights with the character designers since 7 different famous mangaka worked on the original game
Shimamoto seems to be happy about it.
Though he does joke about the art change
>killing everyone in Ninja
I'm sure this'll backfire at some point but I'll cross that bridge when I get there
There are two special swords in that chapter, one you get for not killing anybody and the other you get for killing a super boss. There is a way to get both, you have to get in a room where a woman spams ghost, kill the Ghosts for exp (as they are Ghosts, it doesn't count for the killing counter) so you get stronger to fight the super boss.
Isn't the medicine box you get for not killing anyone like one of the best thing you can carry on the final scenario? Been a long time since i played it.
That's the reward for not killing any women, before you get into the final fight of the chapter, a woman will appear and give you a useless item, if you wait in that room around 10 seconds she will come back, apologize, and give you the Medicine Box
You get that one for not killing any girl (except that weird one, I don't understand what is going on with that) so if you are going for a no kill run then you get both.
>(except that weird one, I don't understand what is going on with that)
she's one of Ode Iou's generals
You can kill people but to get that one specifically you need to avoid killing innocent women
>There is a way to get both
There is absolutely no reason to get both, as the two swords have equal strength.
There one: to brag that you fully completed the chapter.
You can't get both, the no kill reward overwrites the other
You mean only for carrying into the final chapter. You'll still have gotten both, and got to kill Ode Iou with the superboss katana.
Sure but there's no way to actually use them together
Oersted did nothing wrong.
His only mistake was not finishing the job. They all deserve it.
Oersted did EVERYTHING wrong and was a complete weak homosexual who gave up hope that the chad heros had to come put in his place.
>All his allies and mentors die
>He got tricked by Streibough out of jealousy
>The princess just killed herself because Streibough fooled her
>Became a person that is wanted by the kingdom with no allies or comrades
HE
DID
NOTHING
WRONG
>Streibough
It's gonna take fricking forever to get used to that. Most of the name changes, really.
Can you really blame him from losing hope after all the shit that happened to him?
Dude, he just had bullshit after bullshit throw at his face and without nobody to give him a "get a hold of yourself!" Slap is logical he went completely insane.
I hope to see your entire family and countrymen ganging up on you and telling you straight in the face how much of a wasted existence you are, one by one. And that is still nowhere near his level of misfortunes.
>you can swap between chapters midway through
very cool, as I think you had to start a chapter over if you did that in the original.
Does anyone know if there’s an option for the original soundtrack? Can’t check the demo right now.
is captain square in the demo
I just cleared Pluto stage on it.
nice
Steam release when?
The trauma of the BIG FISH..
that one section in sekiro be like
KAKATTE KOI
Wow the fish looks so good! I personally really like the HD-2D style.
what i really like about this remake is that most of the battle sprites aren't even new, they're just directly ripped from the original. it's got good spritework man
What was his name again?
Lord Iwama
el grande fishe
Whiscash
How are you supposed to beat this fricker? I never did in original game
You grind up to lv. 12 - 14 and have Ryoma and O-Robo.
Althought Oboro and Ryoma can handle the fish themselves too with enough level.
I like this, 7 completely different characters from completely different genres join forces. OT tried this with 8 medieval/magical characters and failed.
>still comparing Live-A-Live to OT
anon...
OT was clearly inspired by LAL, dufus, people is gonna compared them forever.
Wait until you find out about SaGa
>OT was clearly inspired by LAL
Not it wasn't you frick.
LAL has 8 separate genres, 8 independent stories that don't intersect at all until the end of the game.
OT is just different classes, and you start meeting other party members very early on.
OT is much closer to something like SaGa or Trials of Mana than LAL.
>Meeting
You mean put in your party and never actually interact with each other, there is a reason why the characters fell into obscurity so fast despite the game selling like 2 millions.
OT is badly planned hybrid of Romancing SaGa 1 (Some main characters are literally just edgy versions of main characters from RS1) and FF5, it has nothing to do with LaL.
Also Takashi Tokita, the man behind LaL, is a former SaGa team member, LaL in itself is largely inspired by SaGa because that's what Tokita worked on as a freshman, like Hiroshi Takai or Akihiko Matsui he's part of Kawazu's schoolboys.
Octopath Traveler didn't know what it wanted to be, of course it didn't work out.
OT knew what it wanted to be (8 independent stories with interweaving parties in a shared world), it just didn't work out.
OT wasn't trying to be like Live-A-Live, which is about hero stories in 8 separate mediums. They're going for something entirely different.
Also you won't hear the OT shitters complain about "NOT ENOUGH PARTY INTERACTION" in Live-A-Live. Because they're fundamentally going for different things. That's why the comparison between them is stupid. It's the same folk who kept comparing OT to FF6 because "many characters, also 2D sprites!"
>OT knew what it wanted to be (8 independent stories with interweaving parties in a shared world), it just didn't work out.
If it wanted to be that it should've been a SaGa game.
LAL characters do interact in the final chapter, is minimal but is much better than OT non existent interactions relevant to the pkot. For frick sake, OT final chapter is built like a fricking sidequest, drops shitloads of revelations though text and the characters NEVER COMMENT ABOUT IT!
I'm not defending OT, it has loads of issue. I'm saying that OT and LAL were going for completely different things. That's why it's not a problem that LAL has no character interactions before the finale, but it's a major problem for OT.
LAL not having character interactions between the 7 heroes makes sense because their chapters are self contained (and they do interact with other characters in their respective chapters), OT put everyone together from the beginning and aside some obscure and irrelevant to the plot cafe conversations they never fricking interact.
Yes, we are agreeing.
OT and LAL are very different.
OT wasn't remotely trying to be like LAL.
I don't understand what's getting miscommunicated here.
Forgive me anon, I was mad and go wild.
Let's just enjoy the LAL demo
Anyone who managed to play the demo, any notable changes to the ninja chapter?
Small changes to the layout of some of the rooms/areas, nothing notable in the demo
So, nothing so far that affects how cryptic it gets?
Trap floors are more obvious, although this could be the only one like it.
It's probably 580p 30 FPS again because Japs, correct?
Is the game good? I played the original years ago and I want to give the remake a try
How long is each chapter? Is the demo the whole 3 chapters or just the beginning of each?
The whole 3 chapters, but they're varying in length. Space chapter is a slog right now compared to the China chapter.
wasn't the space chapter basically a VN
No wonder. I'm still itching for a fight and Captain Square wasn't enough.
>Space chapter is a slog right
God damn you make me so mad cant appreciate kino of the highest order. The chapter is you, a robot, seeing humanity through his eyes. Nothing has ever been captured so well to describe the human experience. No form of literature has ever been achieved that can rival that section. It is perfection and I will not listen to you be a homosexual I am going to cry now b***h frick you
two of those posts weren't even complaining about the chapter you illiterate mong
IM MAD OK I CANT THINK I AM TRANS BTW
why are you so mad about a chapter you are deeply enjoying and whose enjoyment no one can take away from you, you infuriated trans mongoloid
Wow that's generous for a demo then.
They said beginning, so I assumed there was some cut off point there.
>Three whole chapterrs.
Isn't that bad?
>The whole 3 chapters
No. Space chapter for example cuts off the moment Kirk's space suit starts malfunctioning.
Oh. You could replay the chapters after finishing them. Did the original version do that?
Yes, you have the option to replay them but it overwrites your previous playthrough of that chapter
Frick you squeenix.
?????
What is the problem here?
that anon doesn't eat soup dumplings so he's feeling emasculated
It's a reference to Sleeping Dogs, a game murdered by square's mismanagement in trying to make its sequel some online multiplayer garbage. Quite a sore spot.
Ouch.
Pretty much what this guy said
Here is also the original line from Sleeping Dogs.
That's actually kinda based. Sleeping Dogs is dangerously underrated.
Too bad Square Enix killed it and also killed all their Western game division. Someone please usurp Matsuda before he also kills the Japanese vidya division too.
but does it have THIS dialogue?
We don't know yet, the demo only goes up until the first training with the successors
>Never played the original
I want to check the demo out, but I feel like three chapters (or a chunk of each) is enough that I wouldn't want to spoil it.
I really wish the cowboy chapter was available. Old spaghetti western crap is one of my weaknesses.
Then they are smart to know that those like you WILL buy the game to play it
>play this game for the first time
>last chapter
>Clint Eastwood gathers up a ninja, a robot and an absolute unit Sumo fighter
>finds the best revolver ever made in a chest and uses it to kill the ultimate final boss
True JRPG kino
>Sumo fighter.
Nobody fricking uses the fatso.
I did because sumo is based
I'm not gay, I'm gonna choose the girl.
His musical dancing attack is great damage fodder that can either kill after Shifu's first hit or soften up the tigers enough for Lei to murder
They should, because he's a beast. Tons of HP, deals a lot of damage and all of his attacks have a surprising amount of range. Pairing him up with Masaru and Pogo during the final chapter makes your party pretty much unkillable.
it's a fun chapter too
>both secret bosses are present in the ninja chapter demo
oh shit
>Demo
Is the full chapter.
Not true. It ends abruptly shortly after getting the storage key.
Ah shit.
Why is he called Cube if he's round
Because his creator thought it'd be funny
play the chapter for 3 minutes dude
He was created by an absolute madman.
I wonder if it's feasible to kill them if you grind the ghosts
I just got into Majin Ryunosuke's fight and holy shit this rendition of megalomania goes so hard.
How long until someone uploads the full remixed Megalomania?
Now
Streibouth doesn't deserve a fight using thia cool remix.
holy shit
space chapter everyone's fricking dying
what the frick
what teh hell man
Well, consider the inspirations for this chapter.
It's horror/thriller what do you expect
Can you put japanese voices in the demo.
Yes.
Until what point the china chaoter goes?
>they changed the Uranus battle in Captain Square
oh wow holy shit
Elaborate.
All I did was gradually blow things up with that 3x6 nuke and self-heal.
So, how does it work now? In the original those enemies looked exactly the same as the electric field to confuse the player
I'm guessing they changed it because the original gimmick of the stage wouldn't work in the remake.
It is kinda funny how they kept the original's tile sprites. Not as funny when they're covering the field in electric tiles, but still.
What did they do?
>Cube's chapter is in the demo
Someone post KILL YOU
Can't. The demo chapter ended with Kirk's death but before they bring his body back inside.
Kino is on the menu again, Nintenbros. This game is one of the best jrpg on the SNES. Rivals final fantasy easily.
Not really. Stop overhyping it moron and play the original.
I played the original almost a decade ago. I've finished every single FF game on the SNES. Live A Live is a masterpiece.
That explains your low standards.
Nice comeback, nerd. I've forgotten more games that you have ever played.
Weird flex but okay.
>one of the best jrpg on the SNES
which others are worth playing that you'd put on the level of LAL?
Super Mario RPG. Final Fantasy IV. Chrono Trigger.
>Muh original NTRPG is le masterpiece
You homosexuals say the same thing about Bahamut Lagoon
What? But Bahamut Lagoon is unironically NTR played straight.
Live-A-Live isn't really proper NTR because Alicia was never actually in a relationship with Oersted to begin with. All the feelings of betrayal are there but believing that she was his ally was just his own delusion.
You people are so obsessed with NTR and cuckshit that you deluded yourselves into thinking that was all the Oersted shit was about, when it it was merely the straw that broke the camel's back if anything, and like said, it's only even a romantic interest if you choose to interpret it that way as the player of a silent protagonist. It isn't really explicitly stated as love otherwise.
What set the dude off was simply having every single last thing he had in life ripped away from him through the shittiest events that could be orchestrated. He has no home to go to, the whole population wants him dead, every last ally he had has been killed, or in Straybow's case fricking plotted this living hell for him to begin with. After everything seems lost to him, he remembers the words Alicia had for him and how she believed in him and was still waiting to be rescued. If he could just have that last little thing to cling onto, he could try and find some kind of purpose in living. But then she kills herself after betraying his feelings of trust, and that was it. He had nothing left to live for anymore. Everything he ever held dear and cherished in life was destroyed or turned against him and there wasn't a single soul left who he could turn to for console. This is what the dude fricking snapped and became the next Demon Lord over. Not losing a woman, but simply losing every last ounce of faith and trust he ever had in humanity over the absolute conga line of bullshit he got put through.
Yeah I think the whole focus on 'OMG NTR' is just the usual Ganker obsession with NTR in general. Romance is a very vague part of the entire ordeal. Oersted was probably more effected by Streibow's actions and words more than anything.
The entire point of it all is a sort of commentary/riff on bog-standard JRPG/fantasy plots of 'rescue the princess' and all that.
NTRgays are just obnoxious because they are. It's a normalgay as shit tier
>It’s not NTR!
>It’s not about the girl!
>He didn’t love her or anything, it was just the final straw
Then why did he imprison her and Straybow’s souls? morons
Revenge against EVERYONE, even those who didn't wrong him like the old man, the former hero, the king and the kid.
The thing even Oersted doesn't think it's NTR, when you meet her soul she's treated as a pure holy being.
What the frick are you talking about? She is confined to small space like everyone else and all what she does is cover her her face in shame for eternity.
Because she feels guilty. Also
>Saint Alicia
Saint Alicia is about how she's a duplicitous b***h who appears holy at first only to become a demonic caricature of herself.
The scream is fricking haunting. It's meant to be.
>Saint alicia.
>An attack that look like angel a first then turn into a monster with a scream from hell.
Anon...
In my defense, he never got a chance to use it against me
What the frick? How over leveled you were?
Then how you know about the attack? Don't say that you saw it in a vid because it would mean you saw how it works.
RPGclassics Shrines, of course. The only place you went for oldschool jrpg strategies, item lists, enemy attacks, etc back in the day
>why would the guy hellbent on revenge and seeking out misery throughout time against people he doesn't know who had happy endings want to imprison the two main people responsible for his suffering?
Going by your logic he's gay for Straybow.
Alcia is completely blameless for his suffering- UNLESS it’s NTR.
Dude everybody's fricking soul got imprisoned. He came to hate everybody equally. Alicia and Straybow didn't get some kind of special treatment in his apocalypse.
>All the feelings of betrayal are there but believing that she was his ally was just his own delusion.
She wanted to marry him before the NTR mindfrickery happened
Why was Live-A-Live associated with Bahamut Lagoon of all things? It's not NTR at all.
Because Alicia was considered one of the 3 wicked women of Square
Meh, that list is BS, it has Rinoa and not even the Japanese know why.
That was updated, I forget who the original third girl was
I use my Deck a lot more these days, how long is this gonna be hostage on Switch?
It's gonna be an octopath situation where the answer is whenever square feels like the sales on switch are done. But you can just emulate it anyways, every switch game is a PC game.
Nintendo shoulda translated the snes version and slapped it on their online service. I would maybe pay for it then. Instead I will download the fan translated rom. Frick paying for 20 year old games
Why some people are so pissed off over this remake existence?
Loved the Japanese VA. You morons better change to that because the English VA just doesn't hold up in comparison.
Yeah, English Akira is a fricking embarrassment.
is this as SOUL as it looks? seems great
Yes.
>Original director is back
>Yoko Shimomura is back doing remixes
>Sprites are WAY better and some nice QoL changes
Potentially my GOTY this year.
That was fantranslation only? I honestly liked it.
Yes anon, it was an unofficial English patch...
The original LAL eas never localized.
Yeah, but I thought that it was also there in the Japanese language as well.
So.
Sifu isn't gaining exp compared to Lei. That's a sign I should remove his equipment immediately, right
Sifu is old and the whole point od his chapter is that he is looking for a succesor.
hate how the unique chapter text is gone.
they do any improvements to the battle system?
>I am angry that something added by fans is gone.
If you were expecting them to add something added by a FAN translation thne you are stupid.
>hate how the unique chapter text is gone.
That was never in the original. Fan translation added it.
two questions
>can you switch to the original music?
>how combat heavy/grindy is it?
1.) Probably not, seen no indication you can. Just VA work.
2.) Depends. Far Future chapter has no combat outside optional content and final boss, for example. It's not excessively grindy, however.
Streibouth is Ganker incarnate.
>octopath soulless graphics
>murder of the original art direction
>they care SO LITTLE about the original game and are so uncommitted that it shows oersted in the FRICKING TRAILER.
>squareenix
>live a live will forever be caged in the snes and will never be officially accessible to the west
Do yourself a favor and don't buy this soulless trash. play on an emulator the masterpiece that the original is.
Yes Sonyboy. We get it. You lost today. It's alright. Just go home a rest.
schizo
Goddammit, they only show that Oersted exists, they didn't show what fricking matters.
You stupid frickwit, the original director's been wanting to do this for a long time. Take your rose-tinted glasses off. Besides, the original's janky as frick anyways.
kill your self
Oersted is an open secret nowadays. There's no point in hiding him.
new players don't know shit about LAL. This is going to be a lot of players' first taste of the game and it completely ruined the experience that was getting to that point in the original game.
Knowing that there is an 8th scenario that looks like a classic JRPG doesn't spoil Oersted really
Not to the western ~~*fanbase*~~ or Ganker so you moronic spoilergays should shut the frick up with your homosexualry
Play your outdated version then
They hated him for saying the truth
>reddit spacing
opinion discarded
>LIVE A EVIL
>LaL will now be used as ammo for console war shitposting and will also be ridden with unsufferable secondaries
The price of fame.
I like what they did for the opening of the near future chapter.
It's weird that he's refered to as Lawless in his dialogue box and menu, but Akira still calls him Matsu.
Visuals looks disgusting what the frick?
I don't remember the snes version looking this bad.
I think that the last chapter of this game was the moment where my hair stood on end the most in any video game
not ironically I think it's the peak fiction of video games. I can't think of a single game that matches it on the kino level.
"after all you still alive"
I'm going to kick oersted's ass with akira.
Wow this is wonderful. The original is now dead. If you know anyone still stuck in the past wanting you to play the original one, tell them they're a homosexual failure that should do them, their family and everyone ik their life a favor and off themselves.
Oh shit i didn't even know. So, is the language selectable or are we stuck with english?
I think you can switch to jap voices.
you can switch to japanese
newbies will see the medieval chapter in the trailer, but in the actual game it is not available (at first) so they will get extra curious about it. I am sure this is the approach SE is making.
So, just did the ninja chapter, it ends if you go north of the area the storehouse key is in, where the castle's main building is.
Everywhere else is fair game, which is a massive area in itself.
Cube's chapter ends after Kirk dies, but before he's recovered.
The China chapter ends roughly around when all the apprentices are recruited.
>The China chapter ends roughly around when all the apprentices are recruited.
I didn't notice because I'm grinding the tigers. I wonder what's the level cap
Broadly speaking 99. But you only need to be like level 10 - 12 for most combat chapters to be beaten easily, and the chapter "soft cap" is around 20, after that unless they greatly lower the exp to level curb it's going to take a lot longer between levels until the final chaper. Even then the exp to get to 20 is fairly high for most chapters.
Will I enjoy Live Alive if I loved SaGa Frontier Remastered?
You can see some surface similarities in game design choices, but overall it's not really like Frontier, every character story is fully self contained and with many different gimmicks, all the stories are also much more bite sized than Frontier, the average story takes one hour at best to go through, Masaru's story is barely even 20 minutes long for instance.
There's some stories, like Oboro's or Sundown Kid which can be completed in different ways, but other stories like Akira's or Pogo's are fully linear and at best you'll be missing out an optional boss.
And of course the gameplay's completely different, though again there are some vague similarities here and there, Tokita's one of Kawazu's alumni so if you like games with more niche choices in terms of game design you'd probably still enjoy LaL overall.
>Masaru's story is barely even 20 minutes
Unless you're trying to get all the moves, in which case you'll triple that with just trying to get Asia to use something other than bite.
Do you like cuckshit?
New mini trailer, screenshot Odio
Whoa, they really uodate the final battle.
The burki daioh sprite looks fricking amazing.
And is animated.
Every single sprite is accurate to the original, looks better and is animated
Demo ost rip when, i want to hear the megalomania remix
>mfw trying Uranus during Captain Square
how the FRICK do I deal with these floating cheese bastards? I'm trying to just knock them out of the way and beeline for the monster in the top left but then they do their bullshit danger tile attack and I get fricked to death between the up front damage and DoT from the tile
3x6 nuke attack and gradually make your way to the left while self-healing.
I used that super long range multi-hit attack to snipe it. Did 0 dmg, but it got poisoned and died really fast.
>Uranus
heh
I'm thinking of getting this game anything significantly different from the original one besides graphic levels?
Why do they keep funding shit like this. Even Nintendo isn't stupid enough to waste money on earthbound because even though people say they love it they won't actually buy the shit. Live a live was cool because of it's multiple stories in one game but it used the same combat for every single one and I mean come on it really isn't that great. Why fund a full remaster of it to sell ten copies.
Black person, nintendo personally asked for this remake, the hell are you on about?
>WAAAH WAAAHH I HATE JRPGS SO THAT MEANS EVERYONE SHOULD TOOOOOOO!!!!!
Seethe more homosexual
Did the censor any of the "outdated" jokes like the homosexuals or prostitutes in the Ninja chapter? What about the fat body shaming in the China chapter?
I can't trust squeenix ethics department.
Always assume that the English translation is pozzed, just like with NEO TWEWY. Go get your genki textbooks and get to Anki grinding already, things aren't gonna get better anytime soon.
Also wondering if they changed it for the Japanese text/sprites. Anyone know?
That's like, cringe, my dude.
cope and seethe, people should rightfully mock the translations since especially so many localizers on twitter hate japanese culture and want to outright remove it.
>NEO:TWEWY
This again, kys if you get your panties in a twist over the most miniscule shit
>Alt-right language
have a nice day.
How were the jokes in the original? In this demo, you can peep on two guys speaking suggestively in the ninja chapter, and there are girls in kimonos here and there in the mansion. There's a joke where a guy keeps spinning one by the kimono belt and you can join in or get spun yourself.
The fat disciple in the China chapter laments being fat, at least in his Japanese voice acting. I'm not playing with English voices nor text so I don't know if they changed it there.
Seems to be accurate to the original
The entire joke with Sammo is LOL HE'S FAT and yes that's in english
Streibough? More like GAYbough that fricking loser.
sell me on this
no
frick off
k
its good
That's what the demo is for.
Orested did nothing wrong.
Remember how Ganker loves to make jokes about NTR? This game shows what happens when the victim of NTR actually takes revenge...
This game might have influenced me to hate cuckshit with an everburning passion, both sides
If you don't take extreme revenge if something like that happened to you, you're pathetic
what do you mean both sides
why hate oersted, hero of the story
I think he's talking about the boy and the girl that do the cucking
By both sides I mean cuckshit where the guy is into being cucked, Oersted did nothing wrong
The game’s message is that being good at something is selfish and if you’re cucked you need to just accept it- she’s happier.
No it isn't. There's no message for Oersted to accept what happened to him, only that it was wrong for him to retaliate against everyone and everything afterwards.
Since everyone involved was already dead, after all.
I think you mixed Live a Live and Bahamut Lagoon with each other
Even then the girl still loses in Bahamut Lagoon since the guy cucked someone for fricking dies
I don't think any of these stories are long enough to warrant a demo that saves your progress. Probably would have been better to do a demo with Cowboy and Modern Day in their complete form to let you get a taste of exploration and combat. Especially since they're two of the shorter stories so they make for good demos.
I feel like that would make people think every story is as short as those two.
The game as a whole is short as frick though so it's a fair representation I think.
is it coming to PC ?
Every time I buy a game on switch it comes out on PC free or heavily discounted right after
I expect both this and Triangle Strategy will eventually go to PC like Octopath Traveler did.
It will eventually
Satan works at nintendo
Octopath was also published by Nintendo outside of Japan, but it's still on Steam.
say it with me anons
[spoiler]FRICK
STRAYBOW[/spoiler]
Alicia understood the assignment
Why is this game so good bros?
I played the original when the remake was announced after meaning to for so long, and it's genuinely just a fun game. The story isn't really anything amazing, the gameplay is jank, but for some reason I really loved it.
because soul
>play sci fi chapter
>gradually start remembering everything that happened
Damn, wish I could play this for the first time again
Reminder that Oersted was so mad that he could somehow break into the afterlife, grab the souls of the traitors and trap them in a dungeon where they can't move from a small space.
power of the demon king bro
>secret super boss added to each chapter that doesn't already have one (except cube's ig)
would it be based or cringe?
The only chapter that doesn't have a superboss that could even reasonably fit one is probably Imperial China. And Near Future, I guess.
Everyone else is too streamlined, I think.
>except cube
A good idea would be trying to defeat the behemoth with the captain as a superboss
>colonel as a party member
damn that'd be sick
I really hope they at least add something. Not that the game doesn't already have crazy optional bosses, but I wouldn't say no to more.
even just an optional super-duper dungeon in the final chapter would be fun
Reminder that Oersted is a little b***h and Straybow did nothing wrong.
Any improvements for the ninja chapter?
A radar.
have they played any clips of this in any trailers yet?
Not really; just Megalomania, the main theme, and the battle themes for each era.
Why do people call it "Live A Live"?
It clearly says LIVE A EVIL
Not only that, they pronounce it like laib-a-laib when it's supposed to be lib-a-laib.
>when it's supposed to be lib-a-laib
But that's not true.
Does megalomania plays in the demo?
you can fight Majin Ryunosuke in the demo, which plays megalomania, otherwise no
Doesn't megalomania play at every chapter boss in the original? Is this changed?
the demo doesn't go to the chapter bosses, unfortunately
I see thanks, another question is captain square fully playable?
I believe it is, the demo end doesn't kick until trying to retrieve Kirk's body.
Seeing as how Cube's chapter is mostly text I see no reason not to make Captain Square fully playable.
It plays for some superbosses such as Ryunosuke in Edo Japan and King Mammoth in Prehistory
Rip of the ost in the demo when
Also NSP when, I don't play games on the Switch itself anymore
Even though this should at least run without issues
You'd think so but it gets a bit choppy here and there, like when you're outside the castle in the edo story.
Well more reason to emulate, it always impresses me how the Switch manages to chug on games that don't look THAT impressive
>don't look THAT impressive
Setting aside the subjectivity of the graphical fidelity of a full on remake woth a balance of both 3D and 2D assets i bet it's because it's using fricking unreal engine.
Speaking of, I recently tried to set up Yuzu. I got the keys and everything set, a game and it's updates correctly done. But when I attempt to launch that game, Yuzu just immediately gets stuck on 'not responding.'
Is there something I'm missing or is it a result of me attempting this on my toaster?
I just always use Ryujinx it tends to work much better with newer games
Guess I should give that a go then later.
Can you still stunlock Ryonosuke with Warning Shot + Sand Arts and kill him without getting hit once?
I wonder if SE put a link somewhere to an unlisted vid about Odio.
HOLY SHIT
I just tried the Ninja chapter. They updated and fixed it into perfection. I didn't think they would put this much love and care into it.
>hand drawn map of area you can look at
>stealth mechanic actually works
>battle mechanics updated to see when turns happen/ when you or your opponent can interrupt
I don't even need to go into the great voice acting or map layout. I and shocked how horny I am now
the battle mechanics definitely look like they got a nice bit of polish. which is quite nice
>me when I abandon my shinobi mission and kill my sensei
Awful localization and terrible faux modern-retro-hybrid art direction.
Play the original for gods sake. It's been out for years.
>Doesn't play the game
>Assumes things anyways
Why?
Bait.
>go to muramasa at level 3 just to listen to megalomania
nothin personel demo
>everyone already playing it
fug I'm slow.
And man. Why did they have to make Future one of the demo chapters? I guess it's good for showcasing the variety the game has, but man it's the worst one to replay.
At least my second favorite chapter Ninja is also in.
You can take your demo save so no need to replay
I want the NSP to come out so I can give it a try
I want the ost
https://mega.nz/file/w91XCaoT#e8Xh1iD9TYRHWl40UZ-uRuPTzaP85PzLIh3uod1dX7Y
I fricking kneel
Damn, this rendition of The bird flies in the sky The fish swims in the river is really fricking good
It feels like the song came from Shenmue. Really glad for the new remixes, can't wait for Akira's theme.
I fricking love you anon no homo
Oh god thank you thank you anon.
It's funny that Captain Square's song didn't really change.
>That new rendition of Megalomania
Absolute fricking banger, that almost never happens with remasters and remakes that have a redone OST
It's in the demo too, if you know where to look, real good stuff
I'd like to think it's thanks to the actual og composer returning but I'm not sure how common this is for remasters/remakes.
The new China battle music seems way too relaxed. its nice but doesn't really feel like a battle theme tbdesu. i wonder if it changes after the other students get killed
I still remember playing the original for the first time and being so shocked when they [spoiler]straight up fricking died[/spoiler]
>the new Megalomania
fricking christ, bless Tokita and bless Shimomura
give me the whole fricking soundtrack already, i can't wait
>That the bird flies in the sky
What the frick bless you anon
It would've been cool if they allowed people to pick any 3 chapters they were interested in for the demo.
But realistically people would've just uninstall and re-install to play all of them.
>they still kept the name input for Cube
Good. Usually when games go for voice acting, they tend to get rid of that entirely, but Cube's chapter plays with it really well and it would have been a shame to try and go on without it.
You can still rename Oboro too despite the voice acting, i am confused...
The characters never call you by name in the voiced lines.
That fricking sucks, then why Voice acting? Also matsu says akira a lot.
A lot of lines also are not actually voiced, it just pops in here and there.
You could make the game size excuse in older generations but they should definitely have these options in modern games.
They should've voice-acted the default names, but just did silence if you renamed them.
It couldn't be that hard, right?
ive been playing this game for 32 years and i dont like it
>playing a single game for 32 years straight
yeah no shit you don't like it
>people rant about this being the definitive NTR experience
>said-NTR related character just gets brainwashed off screen
>said character then suicides later amounting to nothing
As usual, you guys over blow and exaggerate the impact of everything.
Bahamut Lagoon is far worse for it because its intentionally designed to leave you bitter.
Nah, you read wrong, the game that is straight NTR (with a twist at the end) is Bahamut Lagoon. LAL is the anti-NTR because if the victim takes revenge then it kill the point and NTRgaya can't get hard.
wtf is NTR
Use fricking google dumb zoomer
>Bahamut Lagoon is far worse for it because its intentionally designed to leave you bitter.
Bahamut Lagoon is ridiculous in how far it goes. Your character’s love interest literally marries the other guy in the Church she promised to marry you in as a child, and there’s jokes about you listening to her moaning while they frick. There’s even a joke about your character staying celibate while the rest of the party (including the kid character) has sex, so you can stay true to her, before the big reveal.
It’s all 1:1 NTR gameplay stuff, just with the sex scenes removed. It’s absolutely insane that it exists and was anywhere near mainstream
I'm convinced that it truamatized kids playing it so much that it's one of the reasons behind so many doujinka creating fricked up porn
What are some sprites you're looking forward to seeing animated in the full?
I always loved this fricker's design.
I never understood, does he have two tails and one of them is eating the other?
It's a single oroboros thing, and he's just sticking out of it.
For me, it's Feminophobia.
>THEY DIDN'T REMOVE THE CHINK RIFT FROM THE CHINA BATTLE THEME
B-B-B-BASED
What they put for winning a battle? The fan translation had "righ on!".
>dodge the tiger near the entrance of the rival dojo
>run back to the forest entrance
>tiger is still chasing
God damn do enemies just not give up?
I just played all three chapters, I fricking knew they'd end the far future one the instant shit started hitting the fan. Great atmosphere though.
I have a couple questiions about the other two chapters. In Imperial China, I was only able to find five herbs to cure the sick old people but there were six of them, did I just somehow miss one in the forest or is there another source, like a random drop from the tigers?
As for Edo Twilight, I chose not to kill any enemy, but what about those optional bosses like the spirit lady and the five ninja squad? Am I forced to just avoid them and not get those treasure chests if I go pacifist? I'm also wondering if you can beat the fight you get if you decide to abandon the mission at the start and get a different ending.
If I remember correctly one of the sick people was just hungry. As for what doesn't count as a kill it's just ghosts, robots, and mandatory bosses.
>I'm also wondering if you can beat the fight you get if you decide to abandon the mission at the start and get a different ending
yup if you level up enough you have several fights. this is reference
Thanks. Guess I'll leave stuff like that for the full game, I'm getting it at launch anyway.
As the other anon said, one of the sick is actually just hungry. It's the elderly woman near the bottom of the street.
You can feed her a bun, but she doesn't actually give you anything.
>In Imperial China, I was only able to find five herbs to cure the sick old people but there were six of them, did I just somehow miss one in the forest or is there another source, like a random drop from the tigers?
They aren't sick, they are hungry. Use a food item.
Despite there being 6 sick people only 5 will actually accept the herbs (this includes Yuan's grandma).
In Edo Twilight you can farm spirits since they don't count towards your killcount, but I believe killing the spirit lady does, same goes for the Ninja Five (the pacifist guide for the original advises to completely ignore that room).
Will the seven heroes remain relevant fan stuff wise? The ones from OT were forgotten very fast.
People obviously have their favorites, but a LOT of the fanart from just what the original game cultivated included all of them a lot of the time.
if I hated Saga Frontier is there any chance of liking this?
>Ninja Chapter
Rip casuals. They should have done the Western Chapter.
It's not like you can cut the western chapter. What would you do, stop after the bell rings 3 times? Doesn't really work.
Western doesn't really have a good 'demo stops here' point because there's only three fights in it. If you cut the demo before the final showdown it'd just be annoying.
I'd say if they were going to pick a chapter besides Ninja, it should've been Caveman. It's the simplest while also being one of the longer ones with a lot of combat. You could cut it probably after Bel gets kidnapped.
near future or caveman for the other options
>random ass niche games get full on remakes like the Mana series, Saga series, and now Live-A-Live
>fft wotl still isn't getting a port
>ff dimensions wlll forever be stuck on mobile
>luct will forever be stuck on a psp
>on bahamaut lagoon release
Frick these incompetent morons.
Tactics Ogre remake was confirmed no?
There's a picture someone took with a shitty camera phone with some random ass "Tactics Ogre Reborn" listing on PSN that literally no one has been able to find.
The kind of fakes you see on a daily basis on Ganker.
Okay, but it also was in the Nvidia leak which seems to have been legit, I believe there is something coming at least
You know what else was in the NVidia leak?
Scalebound.
The game that was cancelled back in like 2015.
Didn't Tactics Ogre Reborn literally go up on the Playstation store listing with art? Seems pretty set in stone to me.
No, I literally explained what happened here (
)
No one was able to access the site other than this one dude who happened to only be able to take a shitty and blurry phone picture.
I've wanted to play Live A Live for a while now and feel this version would be the perfect excuse to finally do it for the first time. Main question I have for fans of the game is if it seems like a good conversion of the original based off the demo. This remake looks fantastic from an outsider's perspective, but if there's significant flaws or negative changes I can always just play the fan translation.
I said it to another anon in another thread, but I'd recommend playing the fan translation anyway. I think the remake looks fricking great, game I'm most excited for this year, but playing the fan translation will get you more "into" the conversation, if that's what you're looking for.
If you don't particularly care, that's fine too. Just hold out for the remake. But a lot of discussion is going to be about the differences between the two, so being able to recognize is definitely recommended. At the very least, listen to the OG's soundtrack if nothing else. The remake tracks so far sound fricking great, but the OG still holds up after all this time.
How many characters can you use in the final scenario, 4? Which characters would you recommend?
if you don't want to take a fricking day to track down sundown, pick him as your player character
Max party of 4 and you'll have to talk to a character to switch them into your party.
If you want Sundown, then pick him as your leader, or at least make sure you keep him in the party after you do recruit him.
As for recommandations? Really, use whoever you like best. You only need to swap around characters for their specific character dungeon, otherwise it's doable with all of them.
Only really Akira could be considered a 'bad' party member and even then you can still manage with him, especially if they've buffed him in this remake.
In the original, pick oboro as your main since he runs faster than everyone else, idk if this will be true in the remake, I used him (with his secret boss gear), Li, Cube, and Masaru, but masaru was meh for the final boss, Li, Oboro and Cube were great throughout though, I also used Sundown for a while, he was pretty good
Sundown has a gun. Of course he's good.
The problem i was having with using him was that I had grinded Oboro to do his secret boss so he was already super strong and Sundown's damage wasn't completely making up for his frailty, but he was still pretty fun for a while
Is there supposed to be a pitch black room in the ninja chapter? I went into the cave behind the fish and the room is all black. I had to open the menu to see Oboro but now I'm stuck in the room with no exit.
Never mind that was the end of the demo, I guess the end screen didn't load and it let me move around for a little bit
So far I find the presentation including the voices extremely soulful, looking forward to the full game
I've only gone through Cube's portion so far and the voices are pretty okay
Huey being a poo in loo (I think?) surprised me because I always headcanoned him as one and was shocked as frick when i heard him talk more
>they got wakamoto for this
so glad there's dual audio, the VA cast is god tier
>Cube is referred to as "they"
Oh no.
i mean. Could be worse.
>Not "It"
>Not starting as "it" and later being referred to as "he" after the colonel sees his worth
Would've been kino. I will never refer a singular object or person as "they", trannies.
Thank the Square Enix Ethics department and the localizers for getting brainrot by social media.
I hope that they change the final chapter so when you recruit someone and theb remove it from the party it goes to a solid location (like the kid house) where you can recruit them again or just swap them in the menu.
What final chapter?
>the real reason oboro's chapter was in the demo was so the devs could sneak megalomania into the demo
should I play the demo or just wait a couple of weeks for the full game?
I have only very vague memories of the game, is the room where you can grind the Ninja in the demo? (and if so, is it super hidden?)
I have no idea what sort of game this is. I haven't watched the direct.
It's an RPGs.
8 short JRPGs.
It's amazing how nice the 2DHD visuals are when they're attached to a game that doesn't suck.
It's going to run day 1 on Yuzu, so good news if they decide to not put it on Steam for whatever reason.
it'll probably come to steam eventually
Should I DL the demo or wait for the full game and go in blind?
demo progress saves for the main game so do whatever
Read the thread and decide for yourself, NPCtard
Reminder that Bahamut Lagoon will never be remake, the NTR on it is brutally played straight as the writer admitted he wrote it while being extremely bitter over a breakup.
I wanted to play it til I heard about that shit.
At least you are like that anon who brute forced the game as a child and really enjoyed and in a random thread learned about all NTR the game had and unironically had his "childhood ruined".
>the writer admitted he wrote it while being extremely bitter over a breakup.
Nice. I wish there was more of that in the industry.
It's so much faster than Salamader!
?????????????
how bad is the ntr anyway? can you hear your gf getting banged or something?
Yes, you can, I am fricking serious.
what the frick link?
I don't have a Link, I only remember the summary: MC has a childhood friend, they promised to get married, she is kidnapped by the enemy army...then falls in love with the enemy captain, theyget married in game, there is a scene where the characters comment how they can "heard noises in the other room", the whole thing is fricked up.
someone made an autistic writeup on it, easier to give that out
https://ontlogy.wordpress.com/2020/07/18/a-look-at-bahamut-lagoon-square-enixs-greatest-ntr-masterpiece/
More like someone did a shitty google translation and called a day.
The context behind "It's so much faster than Salamader!" is absolutely 100% correct, though.
If you talk to some npc they will said they heard painful voice from princess room.
Aldo the game hint that the ptincess is pregnant near the end of the game.
Never say never. I think Bahamut Lagoon will get the remake treatment after Tactics Ogre.
Even the Japanese hate this game.
Is it true that Live A Live is the kamige? Or is it kusoge?
I am talking of Bahamut Lagoon.
But I'm asking about Live A Live since you know about the Japanese tastes. Is it as good as they say? I'm never going to play Bahamut Lagoon anyways.
The Japanese love this fricking game
>心じゃよ!
even the JP can recognize SOUL
I miss Nico comments. Fricking youtube deleted that feature.
Judging how the Japanese version of the voices showcase trailer has 1.5 million views, I think is safe to say the Jaoane like LAL.
Japs love LaL anon, its one of (old) Square's most well known classics over there
I wanna see the remake ending movie, the original was great.
I wanna heard the new remix for it.
I still think newbies aren't ready for the suicide NTR.
Someone give me a link to a rom of the original with the english patch already on it thank you do now please
Haven't played the original or the demo, should I play the original?
https://cdromance.com/snes-rom/live-a-live-english-patched/
I'm looking forward to the DQ3 Remake, but I don't think it will be as good as the SFC version. I would have prefer a remake of DQ4 or 5
Is the demo not installing on Yuzu for anyone else? I updated it
the demo is a lot of fun so far.
any other RPGs that have grid based combat similar to LAL's? I know Fractured But Whole has a grid but it didn't seem as quick as LAL.
SaGa
If I play this on Yuzu and then the full game when it comes out will my demo progress carry over to the main game.
I couldn't get the demo working on yuzu but it works fine on ryujinx, just turn off vsync
Well for Fire Emblem Warriors the demo save carry over (and detection of Three Houses Save Data) worked, I assume that means it'll work for other titles as well
Surprised this thread has managed to stay up this long, I hope you all have been enjoying the demo.
I'm looking forward to the release day threads!
Holy shit, you are alive! I haven't see you in months.
Hello anon
>Live a Live
>Bahamut Lagoon
>Fire Emblem 4
The Unholy Pentagon of cuckshit SNES RPGs.
Not great, not bad. Visually impressive backdrops, not as good prop/background sprites-turned-models, mediocre lighting, okay character sprites that turn fricking blank when they're overly bloomed/shined on.
Gameplay itself is smoother, music's nice. There's a lot of QoL shit, like how the ship has a minimap and a full map of the entire craft. There's also skipping which is useful... if not for the autosave feature. Voice acting is unwanted but present. There's loading screens but it loads so fast that the tooltip shit is useless. Text legible but menu GUI is half-assed.
Overall a decent remaster job but lighting's ficked. Not worth $50, but the fact that it exists is nice considering it was JP only for a long ass time.
Hopefully the port doesn't lose the good shit in the Knight's Era.
Aw man, the demo doesn't even let you finish the chapter
Of course it wouldn't, I would be a bad marketing move to be honest.
They should've let you finish the chapter, but give just one available. I would've gone with Kung Fu
It would defeat the whole point of the demo to be fair
Don't worry, Ganker. The strongest man on Earth defeated NTR before and he'll do it again.
Boy I'm sure Namcat will stir absolutely zero shit in this day and age.
Namkiat is a real person, not some stereotype.
Best chapter.
Imagine this scene but with Oersted instead and he is looking down at the corpses of the traitors.
Forgot the fricking link
>bump limit
Neat, i got my minimal shitposting Xenoblade thread and now a bump limit LAL thread.
Xenoblade threads are a lost cause, too many schizos who hate it for whatever reason.
This one of those demos that carries over to the main game?
Yes