Lizardmen should have been a thing transferred over to Warhammer 40k.
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Lizardmen should have been a thing transferred over to Warhammer 40k.
Lizardmen should have been a thing transferred over to Warhammer 40k.
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Go play onepagerules stuff. They are releasing a space lizardman faction model collection this month and their grimdark future game is just knock off 40k.
I hear a lot of people argue that it's better but I've never gotten around to playing it and I haven't played 40k in a few editions so I couldn't compare.
I call One Page Rules generic brand 40k. It lacks flavour but you will never say "I was overcharged for this" and also it can be played on a reasonable time which for many people is better (losing doesn't feel bad since you didn't "waste" 4 hours for example).
Can't say if it's overall better than 40k tho, but definitely people should give it a try.
It's good if you want competitive stripped down version (3rd ed lite), with a lot of options.
It's meh if you want something for more flavourful silly and crunchy play
What would be the best for a 40k style crunch/flavor game I'm looking for more of a wargame than anything competitive because 9th feels like starcraft 2 levels of comp these days
I personally use renegade scout. It's almost fairly mini generic but isn't built as 40k rip off. Instead it took base rules of rogue trader and necromunda and then polished them off to fix a few kinks (no more IGoYG), but kept the general spirit of it.
I like it because it's basically better base 40k and you can convert fantasy or 40k stuff in terms of rules and use that too.
Warhammer 40,000 Second Edition is excellent, if a little detailed for a war game. If you want a system that focuses on being enjoyable over being a highly competitive wargame, it's perfect.
Highlights include individual troopers catching fire and running around screaming until helped by comrades, vehicles that go out of control, doing an "akira slide" on a motorcycle, and a close combat system where models fight other models instead of slamming into each other and exploding into meat.
I just play older editions of warhammer mixed with rules from Chain of Command by Too Fat Lardies.
Oldschool 40k was trying to be simulationist, so it feels more in keeping with the spirit of old, plus the level of unpredictability helps keep things "fluffier" and keeps tournament types away.
Huh, though got no clue how CoC works.
Holy shit, I helped write that document.
Post your basederino models bud!
I don't have any. I also don't know what that means.
Lizardmen don't work in D&D because their core assumption works off the idea that there's someone in the setting who has the least bit of an idea what they're doing.
The Old World is dark and kinda fricked but there's a potential for it not being fricked.
I think you had a brain fat there?
They did transfer them they were called slann but got cut like squats except they never survived passed rogue trader.
They are still canon. They showed up in third and later were mentioned in new AT and Horus heresy.
no, but space slann should return and exodite eldar should finally be made
use them as orks or something
It's how I run mine, high armor force and some blob of shooty boys. Skinks have same balistics as Ork boyz anyways.
necrons would also be acceptable, the old slanni used teleportation fields to avoid projectiles and explosion
that fits visually the reanimation protocols
>your dude disappears as it almost gets hit
>it either teleports back unharmed or was actually hit and died or teleported away
Kroot adapted to Tyranids
Sauce on minis? Tried google images and reverse image searching and got nothing.
one page rules
saurian starhosts
Thanks man.
I'm going to kitbash some exodite dinoriders with these.
Working on a kitbash to make an all sslyth dark eldar kt kitbash.
vera nice
Frick off, worthless namec**t.
Naw, GW was sailing close to breaching copyright when they based their Adeptus Arbites on judge Dredd. Stealing the design of the Klegg mercenaries from the Judge Dredd series as well would have been really moronic, even for them.
What? Nah, this robocop looks nothing like anything from Dredd.
And all those arbites look nothing like Judges, you see, they have black plate armour, not black road leathers.
And their shoulder eagle is much shittier than a Judge's.
It's just Judge Dredd changed slightly to avoid copyright problems. Carapace armour and bolter to make it 40kish, but still with the same eagle on the shoulder, the helmet, etc.
The same way Tyranids and Spacehulk are a rip off of Aliens, or the current Primaris and squats are from Starcraft.
Don't know what those whte dudes are - ripping off star wars stromtroopers now?
They were, they just didn't stick the landing.
They were, they're Space Marines, merged with Bretonnian knights. Superhuman, single-minded killing machines that live hundreds of years and designed by a long-gone godlike figure. An Artartes is just a Grail Knight and a Saurus warrior put in a blender.
yeah, sure, and a man is nothing but an ant but mammalian and 6 feet tall
You know I'm right, Anon.
the differences vastly outweigh the tangential and minor similarities
so, no, you're not right
>tangential and minor similarities
You could not be more wrong.
are they lizard?
are they made by the old ones?
no
>are they lizard?
Irrelevant
>are they made by the old ones?
They were made by the Emperor, a long-gone super-being progenitor. So thematically...YES, YOU REATRD
Except you picked a setting that has those same old ones, and those old ones have made ancient lizard things as well as other species.
Space marines are just failed knock off orks made by the emperor in 40k
Not really, space marines are just non-chaos chaos warriors
>bespoke super soldiers
>monks
>creator long gone
>can't interact with others normally
>celibate
>biggest enemy is chaos
>revered by normal humans
Saurus+Grail Knight=Space Marine. It's glaringly obvious.
They are also broken child soldiers, and prone to falling for chaos. They are chaos warriors of 40k, stop pretending they aren't.
Especially when they predate lizard men as we know em. Saurus and what not are younger then space marines or grail knights.
So eldar exarchs? Except put in
>revered by normal eldar
I fricking hate people who think they can just abstract context away to make everything everything else. You dolts.
Also Lizardmen were never monks you fricking moron.
>warriors with spirit animals are monks!
No.
>They awaken now that the Necrons are up to try and unfrick things one last time
>End up fricking it up even more
There's potential there.
they did, in order to link fantasy to 40k but they eventually downplayed that angle after realizing putting every single fantasy race or trope IN SPAAAAAACE is fricking dumb
Then why are IG just Empire in space? Why are 'Nids just Skaven?
You got it wrong anon, empire is not IoM, empire is the tau, while skaven are IoM, it just turns out switching two around and making empire into non-humans, makes a lot of "fans" hate it's guts.
>empire is the tau
Considering the divisions rules, IG is very much the Empire. Also, IG loves tanks, and only the Empire uses tanks at all. Ogryns are ogres, ratlings are halflings. And Skaven? Endless hordes in much greater numbers than any other faction and fielding giant mutated monsters? Is that 'Nids, or Skaven? The parallels can't be denied.
Anon you are aware that skaven were most vehicle heavy army in fantasy? And skaven has huge almost incompetent tanks just like IoM.
Heck the whole ogryn thing doesn't work fully since they were an option in Ork armies too at the time and space marine ones.
Also you forget ratogres exist.
And the teaming horde one stops being skaven when you introduce night goblins with squigs.
tau are an afterthought
empire is obviously the imperium, just more all-encompassing
The T'au literally started as a Lizardman port to 40k by Gav Thorpe (with a focus on the 5 tier caste system that makes up the tau), and took their current form when Andy Chambers took over the project because GW reorganized product development part way through
>Implying 40k isn’t already stupid as shit
Dude absolutely.
>Space Marines.
Yep sure, basically the name of the game. Ok.
>More space Marines...
er ok, is the branding image. A little lazy, we'll let it fly.
>Chaos Marines...
Evil human, er fine
>Imperial guard
... ok... normal humans then. Oh can Ogryn beneat "Ratlings" are not.
>Sisters of Battle, Mechanicus, Custodes, am I missing any?
My god I understand these are different sub factions, but surely for gameplay some of these could have just been compiled into one "Faction"
>Elves, DARK elves and Harlequins. As separate factions
...
>Tau
Eh.
>But the Tau are a faction that's a collation of all sorts of races!
OOOH ok! Now this is interesting!
>It's just more tau, occasionally we'll use Dog/lizards, and exactly two squads of Bugs
How they reimagined Orcs, Elves, and Undead for the 40k universe I would have loved to see how they handled Lizardmen or Skaven.
>How they reimagined Orcs, Elves, and Undead for the 40k universe I would have loved to see how they handled Lizardmen or Skaven.
The current Mechanicus roster makes me think of 40sKaven because of the robes and jezails.
Personally I think they're a bit shot in the foot because Orkz stole green lightning and cobbled together tech, IG are drowning people in waves of bodies, and 'Nids are an unstoppable devouring swarm that brings the end times to all it touches (until the plot says no).
The only way you might do it is have what look like Dark Eldar raids coming out of the webway, except they're lead by giant rat men. At some point the Skaven tunnelled into Commoroagh, found the non-euclidian mind bending hell city convivial, ate the inhabitants, and are twitching their whiskers at all the wonderful things this strange new galaxy has to offer.
It's not really satisfying, and the only reason you'd do it is to deep six the BDSM torture faction to make things a smidge more kid friendly, but that's how you might manage it.
Nids were literally pitched as "bioengineered six-limbed dinosaurs in space" according to Jes
They already occupy a large chunk of the lizardman niche
They were, but they died off anon.
the old ones who created the eldar were probably lizard people.
They were. They ended up as the T'au.
I just want a battletoads faction tbh. Shapeshifting psykers who can change their weaponry on demand. It's like if WHFB slaan didn't skip leg day.
those facial expressions are next level brain damage
it's just battletoads, anon
Exactly why we need Battletoads in 40k
After the debacle that was the battletoads reboot game, do you REALLY want more battletoads?
good lord that is awesome.
Why?
still mad over that last thread?