>lol actually there was an ancient civilization with super advanced tech who are just le gone now haha!!!
i fricking hate this trope
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>lol actually there was an ancient civilization with super advanced tech who are just le gone now haha!!!
Not canon, they even joke about it in TotK once you get it in exchange for all korok seeds.
You don't get it from Koroks, you get a giant Korok turd from Koroks.
Hot.
Is the tablet canon? That's even worse than a bike.
>they even joke about it in TotK once you get it in exchange for all korok seeds.
>you get the master cycle in totk
no you don't you fricking moron
Yeah it hasnt happened IRL before haha
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read. Food doesn't come from farms, it comes from restaurants and Walmart.
Rhodesia was an Israeli client state
Amazing that lots of Rhodesians fled to Australia, Sydney specifically now they all live in the same area of Sydney in one of the most expensive parts of the entire country, or their families do at least
Better than Black person nightmare land
Yes, Israel was originally built on Nazi ideals and they were quite sensible. England, on the other hand, could not allow such a moral outrage as Rhodesia to exist despite the material benefits such a place afforded them.
>tfw we have a dysgenic population trends
>tfw average IQ will likely drop 10+ points over the next 50ish years
>tfw it's too late to stop the collapse
How does this one motorcycle mog every Zonai build possible in TOTK?
its a black horse bike, can make a black horse bike in totk
how
Almost anything you can build moves way faster than the master cycle, with the advantages of also working on water and flying
Because it's a proper bike and not some duplo blocks glued together. That said it's still limited by the fact that it's basically a mechanical horse, zonai stuff can be anything and go anywhere by comparison.
i unironically love this stuff
like rain world
I hate what they did in downpour
did you know that the roman empire was literally this trope to the middle age?
It took Europeans centuries to re-learn how to bathe like the Romans
Wrong. Middle Ages Europe being le unwashed barbarians is a stupid myth. They just didn't have marble bath houses like Romans did (which would have been diseased and unhygeinic anyway)
>'le'
I don't know you anon, but know that I heavily dislike you.
>is a stupid myth
it isn't
why?
Bathing isn't the same as cleaning. Europeans mostly just cleaned with wet cloths and hot water.
Sure, it isn't as clean as a proper bath, but they weren't mud-covered and sweaty constantly.
Getting sick from constant bathing myth is likely due to the water not being heated and bathing in drinking supplies.
I'd like a source on the perfume thing. While there was no 'plumbing,' that doesn't mean they didn't have toilets; just no way to dispose of the waste without a lucky serf.
Medieval Europeans bathed quite frequently, actually. Bathhouses were connected to bakeries because the excess heat from the oven would heat the water in the bathhouse. They were commonly dens of degeneracy, causing the clergy to oppose them because ladies of poor fatherly relationships would frequent them.
The no-bathing thing would come later. It was Louis XIV that only bathed, allegedly, 3 times in his entire life. He was superstitiously afraid of bathes, as were many of the French nobility at the time. There were Russian diplomats who complained to the Tzar that Louis XIV was one stinky motherfricker. He probably did bathe more than thrice in his life, but as apocryphal as it may be, the French Court in the 1600s was likely not much better than their pirates in the Caribbean in terms of cleanliness.
Its not a myth they very seldomly bathed and even thought it would make you sick to bathe too often.
no
Southern Europeans bathed, mostly because of Moorish influence. But northern Europeans actively avoided it because they believed it was vanity and thus evil to do so. They would usually only bathe about once a month. Funfact: perfume was invented because prior to the late 18th century it was common to piss and shit in stairwells and hallways (no indoor plumbing), so the only way to be able to stand the smell was to effectively fry your sense of smell.
Same, frick high tech high fantasy
I fricking love this trope
Too bad because that's literally the planet we live on.
You do realise that has happened on earth multiple times? The ancients and the tech they learned from the Annunuki that they used to build the pyramids, the ancient Atlantean Mycenaean people who were an advanced civilization destroyed by mysterious "Sea people", the Hwan-Guk empire of Eurasia, The ancient Ukrainian empire which discovered logic, math and science and was crushed by the ancient USSR.
Destruction and Rebirth is a cycle humanity goes through over and over.
>You do realise that has happened on earth multiple times?
This. Basedboys think they are the apex. Anons should look into the Silurian Hypothesis if they can't look into Atlantis without associated discomfort.
Here's a tip for you guys. If something keeps popping up in games and movies and books over and over and over again, it's because there's something there, bubbling up within our souls. A lot of you guys make fun of protagonists with amnesia but you yourselves know nothing of the past. Curious.
yeah every 12,000 years when the poles shift
we are due for the next one in 2046
Based
I hope I'll still be around to watch everything get fricked up while smoking a cigar and smiling because the clownworld got hard-reset
>The ancient Ukrainian empire which discovered logic, math and science and was crushed by the ancient USSR.
hahahahahaa
I am not a fan of this Reddit game either. But there is nothing wrong with a game having lore.
How is it a "reddit game"?
You don't know what lore means
If we mostly kill each other, future generations will not be able to access anything we stored digitally, or maybe not even suspect that digital data ever existed. What, you think they'll look at a magnetic disk and manage reconstruct the whole PC, OS, file system and text/image/video viewers to see what the data was?
it would take a world destroying event to set information progress back in the current age because unlike 100 years ago the whole world is digitally connected, doesnt matter if america or russia gets nuked at all
>because unlike 100 years ago the whole world is digitally connected,
Anon, most of gen Z can't even comprehend folders
they can (barely) comprehend their phones and thats good enough
I too am tired of the post apocalypse trope. is there any game where you are at the beginning of the golden age?
It’s not a trope. That is happening with White people.
Get a job you lazy bum.
This is pretty cool but idn't the owner shut it down and flooded the entire thing?
What am I looking at?
Million year old train wheel/connector imbedded in million year old rock found far underground in a mine,.
ah yes, the several millions years old item found in million years old sediment of which there's no proof whatsoever other than the pics taken by those who "found it" and their "trust me bro" statements about what they THINK it is and how old they THINK the sediment is, considering that NO ONE actually dated none of the things they found cause any data about the finding is just "trust me bro"
Why? It's basically our reality.
>Aztec and Egyptian Pyramids
>South American Olmec heads
>Eastern Island
>Chinese pyramids
>Atlantis
>Epic of Gilgamesh
>Old testament literally stating that a world inhabited by ancient beings was wiped out by a world wide flood
>The grand canyon is an example of land masses proving that water had flooding the area at a rapid pace
>Magnetic proof in soil samples that the north and south poles has shifted back and forth across time
>Atlantis
Doesn't exist.
Prove it
That's not how it works dumbass. It's up to you to prove it exists
Nta dumbass, I just liked your answer.
The legend of Atlantis come from the eruption of Thera and it causing the fall of the Minoan empire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_eruption#Atlantis
Not any more.
look at what remains of the city of Uruk and tell me water wouldnt have simply eroded atlantis away in its entirety by now.
not yet
Shame that the climate doomsday cult wasn't right about San Francisco being underwater by now.
Holy shit, the global flood myths exist because people settle around coasts and rivers. Those flooded when the ice age ended, and many tribes were uprooted and the land they knew destroyed. Maybe there were some bronze age civs that got around a bit, but there isn't any fricking orgone power or sound based stone molding. People just had the time to move some fricking rocks.
>Those flooded when the ice age ended
Scientifically speaking, we're still in an ice age.
But not the same half of Europe is glaciers tier you troglodyte
the global flood myth exist because of the Storegga Slide.
The scablands formed from the Lake Missoula ice dam are a better argument than the grand canyon, since the canyon was carved over millions of years
That's literally happening with white people though.
I love that trope.
something something Graham Hanwiener
>dude there were giant dinosaurs running around but they just disappeared because uhhh a meteor from nowhere!
Lmao kid theres caves in india with perfectly flat stone walls so they fricking reflect and we cant replicate that with our tech
There are jars found in Egyptian tombs that are carved from granite with laser-machinery precision.
Actually they just used my dick.
it was literally ancient aliens like the pyramids
The sheikah stones in OOT/MM had rockets on them, but I am not a fan of the sheikah and zonai in BOTW and ToTk, I just want to go back to medieval fantasy with magic setting again
>I just want to go back to medieval fantasy with magic setting again
I want them to stop making everything Japanese. Even Ganondorf, the king of Arabic desert people is wielding katana instead of scimitars
Katanas were derived from ancient Chinese swords, which in turn were adopted in China after the big desert people influence.
Katana is a heavy two-handed sword. It's nothing like a scimitar.
>Even Ganondorf, the king of Arabic desert people is wielding katana instead of scimitars
That's all you saw? His design was ultra weeb.
Sure he was brown and had israeliteelry but he was wearing a kimono and doing the "one arm off the sleeve" shit like pic related. He even had waist bandaging like samurai wore.
>weeb
it's a japanese game you dumb fricking Black person
look up the words you're using between eating peppers and watching the simpsons
you've unfortunately gone full moron
fantastic argument. Go post simpsons memes on twitter.
Are you implying the character was written as a "weeb" in a world where Japan and anime do not exist? I am sorry your parents unfortunately birthed you into the world through an unholy race mixture but you don't have to bother me with your innate stupidity
If Japan and anime don't exist then why are you b***hing that he's using a katana (which doesn't exist as Japan doesn't exist). He's using an "eightfold blade" which is shit that the Yiga, whose main HQ is out in gerudo territory, use.
I'm not the other dumb Black person you were throwing stones at. I just pointed out your mental moronation in describing a japanese game as "weeb". Which, I'll give you this one for free, is inherently wrong because 'weeb' is a contraction of 'weaboo' which is a derivative term from 'wapanese', a westerner acting as if they were Japanese. Slang is already a tool for mongoloids, but by using it arbitrarily and without any context you are contributing to my list of reasons as per why most of humanity should be in a gulag
No one described a Japanese game as being weeb. The first instance of the word "weeb" in this thread says "his design".
You have severe brain problems and need to take your medication.
did a westerner design him you fricking Black person? The game was made in Japan. Are you moronic? Here's an example of what weeb art (design is a piece of artwork) looks like. Coincidentally, it's about farts and fricking dogs. I wonder why
>actual "not japan" japanese characters. from their job (ninja) to the foods they have (ramen) to their names
>it was drawn by a westerner so it's weeb!
That's like saying the 90s X-men is (partly) anime because some seasons were drawn by a Japanese studio. You're absolutely moronic.
What upset you? The comment about spicy peppers and the simpsons? I must have hit a nerve.
A weeb is a westerner trying to ape Japanese culture. Something made by a Japanese person, cannot be "weeb" (which is an adjective reserved for a person, by the way).
A westerner drawing things in Japanese style, is "weeb" because a westerner is imitating a Japanese style.
I did not ask much of you, just to look up the words you are using before posting. But I guess you were too tired from digging under the border and evading the cartels?
>did I upset you? are you mad?
>says the guy that had his jimmies rustled over someone "using the word weeb wrong"
fantastic argument. Back to posting simpson ass eating memes on twitter
NTA but you are unironically moronic anon. Like seriously a mentally evaluated moron.
How? He's right. "Weeb" is a moronic thing to call it because it was made in Japan by Japanese people.
Ganondorf himself isn't Japanese you dweeb.
Boring.
It's ok to not be a fan of the Zelda franchise, therefore Nintendo should not cater to you however when making more Zelda games.
I want the opposite, I want them to stop flirting with the idea of "tech in Zelda" and just properly do it already.
It's weird how often the idea of long-distance time travel and forgotten tech seems to be floated in these games, a game series so obsessed with the concept of time yet only uses it for a throwaway game mechanic or block puzzles like twice every game.
I could've sworn having an actual future-future was an early pitch for at least one game at some point, even.
Make some weird shit, get it out of your system, never acknowledge it again. People will end up hating that game when it comes out and jerk it off when the game after that releases anyway.
Here's what you're thinking of.
You're severely autistic, or missing the point entirely on purpose; yes that anon is a potato for misusing weeb, but his point still stands, the Japanese cultural elements adapted to Ganondorf's design is unfitting for a Gerudo. I would probably be considered a weeb myself, but I think the forcedness of Japanese culture into BOTW and TOTK is whack
>the Japanese cultural elements adapted to Ganondorf's design is unfitting for a Gerudo
I don't disagree with that, but I will be autistic about morons continuing to wear down the meaning of words.
>he says, unironically using the word homosexual not to refer to a pile of sticks
Funny, but I never even called anyone a homosexual.
Well then, have a nice day
>Here's what you're thinking of.
I think I actually don't. I think the first pitches of this nature were fricking ancient, like "Link to the Past features bad sci-fi future" or some shit.
Maybe I'm just a schizo tho, there is a non-zero possibility.
The very original Legend of Zelda was pitched to have future tech in it and they've toyed with the idea of going full in on it ever since but have never really committed to it. A few robotic bosses and what we have in BotW/TotK is the most we've seen of technology in the series so far.
Guess that's what I was thinking of, then. I figured it was either NES Zelda or LTTP.
My memory feels vindicated. Thanks anon.
I think they should have continued making games set in the adult timeline, peehaps the game following Spirit Tracks could have been about planes.
They aren't even gone, Sheikah like Purah and Robbie are building even more advanced stuff in the present.
where'd the infinite bomb/ice machine go?
They're going to sell the apps piecemeal in an app store once they mass produce the Purah Pad like Purah says she wants to.
The gloom destroyed it all
>>lol actually there was an ancient civilization with super advanced tech who are just le gone now haha
I fricking love this trope
Soulful KINO
The sheikah are not extinct tho, they moved away from technology but you still have some like purah pushing it
>>lol actually there was an ancient civilization with super advanced tech who are just le gone now haha!!!
>turns out it was us, 21th century
>game is secretly post postapocalyptic
>turns out there were advanced civilizations even before us, making this secretly post post post apocalyptic
Name three games that aren't Jackie Chan.
Kenshi is double post apoc.
Something similar is the plot of Ys VIII. There is a threat that causes apocalypses every couple hundred million years. There were great civilizations in the Snowball Earth, Cambrian, Carboniferous, and Cretaceous Era, all wiped out.
As a mixed race American (mother is mulatto father is mestizo who came here illegally from Mexico) who grew up near NASA this resonates with me.
I prefer medieval fantasy types to stumble upon the ruins of skyscrapers or something myself, the fifth strata was a trip.
What's wrong, got bored of constantly throwing tantrums about the story so you moved to crying about meaningless shit?
>lol there was an even ancient-er civilization with even superior advanced tech who are just le gone now haha!!!
Aonuma is a hack.
Haven't played new Zeldas but it's a kino trope.
>lol actually there was an ancient civilization with super advanced tech who are just le gone now haha!!!
Actually there was an even more ancient civilization that did the same thing! TotK's plot is so stupid that it retroactively made botw worse
the white race is literally that group of people right now. a thousand years from now, the Black person mutts will ponder what happened to us and mention us in their fairy tales. they'll probably just conclude that it was "some kind of disaster" that did us all in.
Art imitates reality.
>SS was supposed to be the first chronological entry that showed how it all began
>these are the ancients
>ACKCHYUALLY there was another group of ancients thousands of years before these ones!
Would have been better if it started like a 150 years after they settled Hyrule and/or if the temples were bestowed by the goddesses.
>civilization with super advanced tech who are just le gone now haha
modern europe?
Stumbling across ancient tech is kino actually. Distance is not the only gulf, time is just as much a separator.
It'll happen in your lifetime actually
My issue isn't with the concept of a supertech ancient civilization, it's that every event in BOTW/TOTK seems to be boiled down to one of four eras:
>Ancient civilization
>The Flashback
>The rise of the current civilization as opposed to the ancient civilization
>Right fricking now
It feels like the Ancient Civilization™ in either game did all their shit across all of hyrule within a few years at most, with how homogenous it is. They have no sense of history within themselves, they're a comically perfectly preserved and presented period of history. They're also the only surviving part of history from their era. No alternative culture from the time of the Sheikah is ever presented in BOTW, except in terms of how it interacts with the Sheikah through their Divine Beast. TOTK at least makes its temples more aesthetically distinct, even if they largely boil down to "The Zonai showed up and gave every major civilization a cool toy, and all those civilizations just happened to persist for ten thousand years totally fricking unchanged so now they get to play with those toys again :)"
The Flashback, of course, refers to The Time You Flash Back To. We don't ever see anything BUILT in The Flashback Era, it's all either "hey look it's the Ancient Civilization™'s stuff!" or "we are living in the Not Ancient Civilization™, you can tell because we build our things out of bricks and not solid fused stone".
The world feels completely sterile, everything about it is too well segmented and too evenly divided. Frick man, OoT didn't tell you shit about half the temples but they all at least FELT like they were built by different people at different times. Where the hell is the ancient forest civilization that built the forest temple? Who were they? The deku and the kokiri neither have the builds or means to do it, so who did, and why did they live in the forest? This alone is a more intriguing change in a non-neutral civilization than anything in the new two games.
Trope? In many parts of Africa it is daily life.
pfft
I've been thinking of making a bingo chart out of every shitty precursor/ancient technology trope
i'll say it depends on how it's done
if it's just "there used to be a civilization that's no longer around, and the random shit you see is just leftovers from it" with no more depth, then it's a moronic trope
but if we get to find out a lot about it and it ties with the current world and everything in it in interesting ways, i'll say it's pretty good
in other words, i don't want it to feel like an afterthought
If the ancient civilization is presented in such a way that you're forced to assume it rose, did everything, then fell within a few years, that's the fricking WORST shit.
This is the only plot Zoomie writers know how to do
you hate starwars?
We're probably like the 7th version of humanity or something. This trope comes up because it's real, it's in our DNA. We know there used to be Gods here, or something which we saw as such.
>This trope comes up because it's real, it's in our DNA.
Nah. Not to this dumb extent. It'd be like if the first pompeii excavation in the 1700s found the residents of pompeii had wi-fi and fiber internet.
But there was, moron
>Sheika are reworked as the Japanese Hylians
>Ganondorf is still a samurai
In Castle of the sky: La Puta at least it makes. Zelda will never top the best Ghibli movies when it comes to story telling, thanks Miyamoto for making Link speechless
What's the better way to do it?
The zonai worked better in BotW when you thought they where a tribal warrior civilization with ruins all over Hyrule
>trope
it's reality. we've lost tons of tech because the unwashed, street shitting bandit kingdoms of europe subjugated every real civilization
In that particular case it was because they didn't mix the ingredients well, which had a self healing side benefit when water got into cracks.
That more because modern buildings are designed to be torn down when they become "unprofitable". Nothing today is designed with the intention of lasting forever.
I hate society, but that's offtopic..
This. The secret was that the Romans weren't building shit with planned obsolescence in mind.
Planned obsolescence wasn't really a thing before the 90s. The reason our infrastructure from the 50s, 40s, and earlier are collapsing is because of motor vehicles. Roman roads couldn't handle an 18 wheeler - they would crumble just as readily as asphalt roads. Maintenance is just a sad fact of reality as long as we give people freedom of movement.
The real issue isn't that our infrastructure falls apart, but that the French ruined architecture. 1950s French architecture spread across the world because it was so "transgressive" and "modern". Everywhere there were Europeans - prior to the French ruining architecture - there were amazing buildings. Look at practically anything built in the 1890s - 1920s. Even the skyscrapers were gorgeous marvels of design. But then the French leftoids created pic related and everything went to pot.
>Look at practically anything built in the 1890s - 1920s. Even the skyscrapers were gorgeous marvels of design
Post some ones you like, they all look boring to me
We have this design on the coastline. Fricking eyesores.
it's an allegory for white people
why? It's probably happened several times in our history (meaning elapsed time since the origin of the human species, not written records) before.
If that's true then why do none of these super advanced civilizations have any remains of what passes for digital media storage? Or any kind of record that isn't "carve/paint thing on wall"?
To play devil's advocate, what if they do but we have no wya of accessing it. Like vhs exist but vcrs are sparse and like thay even if we had the proverbial vhs we don't have the proverbial vcr to access the data.
They don't, because (using your modern day example) unless these hyper advanced ancient civilizations decided to have 50 gorillion different shaped vcrs and 50 gorillion different shaped vcr players we have yet to unearth anything uniform in shape and fairly plentiful in quantity that makes us go "well wtf is this shit".
Maybe we don't know what we should be looking for?
It could be under our noses we just don't know how to uses them or how to use them with what.
That doesn't matter. In our "primitive" society right now how many cds, hard drives, or ssds exist. These hyperadvanced civilizations should, merely by volume, have enough of their data storage devices survive the test of time, and would all look uniform because the data would be read using the same exact media player.
I can believe a few thousand years old civ figuring out running water and some degree of engineering and math, but more often than not it boils down to "look, it's basically alien magi-tech, but it's been right here all along!!"
TotK is especially silly because it's
>oh look there's an even more ancient AND more advanced civ than the sheikah from 10k years ago
Where do you think we came from, moron? The sphinx and the pyramids were a free energy generator. They were wiped out by a solar flare.
I definitely do feel like there should be a cutoff point in technological development where extinction/destruction is functionally impossible, particularly in interstellar civilizations, but the Sheikah in BotW/TotK didn't disappear, they were ordered by the King 10,000 years ago to dismantle their technology after the Calamity was defeated due to it presumably posing an unnecessary risk now that the danger had passed
While that is very fricking stupid in general and especially if the sheikah's technology is implied to go beyond the divine beasts and guardians into things like infrastructure that helped the kingdom and wasn't an actual threat, this decision is explicitly the reason the Yiga exist as a faction because they didn't want to follow the order
That said they logically probably should have used more of the ancient technology in their equipment and aesthetic rather than the goofy ninjas we did get, but they were good too so I guess it can go either way