>look it up
>this was genuinely one of the bestselling, best reviewed, most award-winning PC games of all time
How the frick is liking it "contrarian"? That's like saying "Oh that special snowflake likes Ocarina of Time" or "Haha look at that hipster with his Half-Life 2"
Sounds like you're taking shitposts a little too seriously over there, OP. The fact that you had to look that up tells me you're pretty young.
Word of advice from me to you: most people on this board are completely full of shit
Well it's annoying, I want to track them down and kill them.
Me too sometimes. Getting angry about posts seldom gets you very far, though, and those kinds of people are undoubtedly miserable enough irl already.
you're too young
How old were u when this game came out
i'll never forget i was 16 and sent my older friend from the pc gaming cafe with 60 bucks to go get it at a Game Crazy across the street. back then nobody have ever played fallout 1 or 2, maybe BOS.
It's just fricking NMA chuds forcing their schizo hate for it on here.
>still seething over being bullied off a board that hasn't been relevant in 20 years
move on with your life already homosexual
take your fricking pills
You fricking NMA morons come on here and fricking spam bullshit about a 15 year grudge against Bethesda. Todd won and you homosexuals will never get another isometric fallout
Meds.
Now.
Go back to your containment forum you NMA fricking Black person homosexual israelite.
>the shitposting tourist thinks mentioning NMA will convince people he’s an oldgay
They always make it so obvious.
Wrong. We got the real fallout 3+4. And they were superior to Todd's garbage any day.
>Game lets you be troony
KEK DO NMASISSIES REALLY?
There are no NMAgay here moron. Stop seething about shit that hasn’t been relevant for over a decade to justify your schizo behavior and feed your victim complex. If you liked FO3 as much as you say you’d make actual threads to talk about it instead of saying “oh it’s totally the best and anyone who says otherwise is a contrarian”.
>Mainstream corporate media said it was good so that means it was good!
It was underwhelming and overrated by the media. New Vegas later came out and became the fan favourite.
troony favorite
Can't wait to see 300 of these
Imagine sucking journos off
eugenics and racial segregation were well-liked in the 1920s
times change moron
I want to go back to when this was released. Spent every school night staying up to 3am hooked. Got absolutely immersed in the world in a way I don't think it's possible for an older brain to do.
yeah
Yeah, going back to this game as an adult was pretty eye opening for me. My brain done changed a lot mane.
it still happens, I was hooked on Witcher 3 and Breath of the Wild. no game measures up these days, I hope Stalker 2 is great.
Not sure it does. Your imaginative capacity dimishes, you experience too much so things become less exciting. Moreover you're very aware of game mechanics and production, there's no unknown magic.
I now play games much more for gameplay than world or atmosphere, which is just a sad reflection of my mind.
>Oblivion with guns
>17 side quests, all of which are hot garbage
>1950s Americana was a flavor additive to the originals, showing when civilization ended
>LOL everyone has a beehive haircut and greaser jackets
It was never good. And I'm not being contrarian.
The change of the series becoming cartoon parody happened in 2. If anything 3 pulled back on that with no King Raat cheesy poof shite.
the wasteland survival guide quest is fricking moronic
>LOL what happens when you le step on landmine?!?!
moira is a moron that’s kind of the whole point
>If anything 3 pulled back on that with no King Raat cheesy poof shite.
I replayed FO1/2 a few years back after not touching them for 13+ years, was some real whiplash.
>FO1
>first boss is Garl, sadistic raider, murdered his own father, keeps slaves around to rape for fun
>can be dealt with in a number of ways from fighting, stat/skill checks, or just paying him off
>lets you join his gang if you execute the two defenseless sex slaves he has
>FO2
>first intended boss is a giant rat with glowing eyes that screams about biting your shins and invading the surface like a 90s fox cartoon skit
>probably psychically controlling the other rats
>can only be dealt with direct combat
I completely memory holed Keeng Ra'at despite remembering the rest of the rats in Klamath and Brain. I don't get why people even b***h about the references when the first bosses players are intended to encounter say everything about the games themselves
You don't need to kill rat god. It's just side quest for combat character.
First "boss" antogonist is slave guild leader you need to deal with to get Vic.
you gotta shoot ‘em in the head is one of the all time best fallout side quests
>It was never good
it was okay. then nv came along and there was hardly a reason to go back to it
it set up a very good infrastructure for a casual rpg (special, stats, perks etc) then bethesda threw it all away with 4 to make it even more dumbed down than it already was. bethesda keeps trying to punch above their weight and it fricking sucks. them and their engine are only kinda good at one fricking thing and instead of refining that they keep sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.
>it was a 7/10
i will be more critical and say it's a 6. the gameplay and most quests are solid for what it is, but it's missing a lot of in between shit like
mentions. i'd be way more forgiving if the story or at least the setting were more cohesive than what it was.
Fallout 4 is better than Fallout 3 in every way except the fricking dialogue system.
>No skills
>S.P.E.C.I.A.L. that you can change easily
>Meaningless perks
>Let's build houses instead of being fallout
Frick off zoomer.
I'm 35 and played FO3 and FNV at launch.
FO4 isn't great, but it's better than FO3 because FO3 fricking sucks.
Thats the thing. Fallout 3 and 4 are fine games they are just shit fallout games.
That doesn't make sense and you're not as clever as you think you are. Speaking of which on a related note, Fallout 4 is objectively the best fallout game.
You're a homosexual farming (You)s. You should probably have a nice day.
Perhaps I should elaborate further. The base fallout 4 is not very good, and I think you can agree with that. However with mods the game easily becomes the best fallout in the series.
>The game is so shit players needed to make it good via mods.
>That's why it's the best in the series.
kek'd
Players who don't care about the story or dialog and only want the good gameplay would agree that fallout 4 with mods is objectively the best game in the series gameplay wise.
You shouldn't be caring about stories in games anyway, you're not a baby any more. Make your own story and stop riding the coat tails off of goyslop.
The problem with your argument is that story and dialogue are part of the gameplay in an RPG
I also don't think that fallout 4 is THAT bad btw
Modernized Firearms Mod
Uncap Settlement building limits
Music mods for radio
Maybe some AI tweaks for enemies
Yeah, it's fun then and there are some good sidequests like Cabot House.
>You shouldn't be caring about stories in games anyway, you're not a baby any more.
what an incredible juvenile and insincere take
Ok, so why are you playing bethesda jank or rpgs in general instead of a competitive fps like counterstrike, games that objectively have good gameplay?
that does make sense. Everything that made Fallout great games was shit in Fallout 3 and sequals.
They may have their redeeming qualities, but they are shit Fallout games
Yeah probably. Fallout 4 should have been a spin off like tactics, the RPG mechanics are too dumbed down and you just go around scavenging, defending settlements and building houses.
With mods fallout 4 becomes the best fallout
4 is only good because it made nv look even better by comparison lol. all my friends who started with 4 and said it was the best game ever did a 360 and walked out when they played nv
it's not even chasing mass appeal, everyone was head over heels for new vegas. it's straight up lazy and lack of focus. they had the perfect framework to nail down the casual rpg with 3/nv. why not just make a borderlands ripoff for all the agency 4 gives you.
i feel like there's nobody at bethesda to wrangle the tards. it's just a bunch of lazy has been dude bro fricks cashing in on stagnant mediocrity. have some fricking pride, i feel like bioware died a more honorable death because at least someone forced them to put a ribbon on horse shit and call it a video game.
Bethesda suffers from crazy nepotism. Because of it no one gets fired even when they should.
>bestselling
irrelevant
>best reviewed
irrelevant
>most award-winning
worthless metric
it was a 7/10 game with a terrible ending that shit on a beloved franchise.
>7/10
It's a genuine 3/10. The gameplay is about as bad as it gets.
"it was a 7/10 game with a terrible ending that shit on a beloved franchise."
Totally agree. A huge dissapointment and an abomination to original Fallout games
>LOOK moronic israeliteRNALISTS PRAISED IT
riveting thread moron.
>it sold well and critics really liked it
Yes no one argues with that.
I have nostalgia for Fallout 3 but it was a bad game compared to New Vegas
FACT:
Fallout 1 was made by a homosexual
FACT:
Fallout 2 has gay marriage
FACT:
Fallout 2 is woke before woke was even a thing
FACT:
Fallout 2 was made by trannies
FACT:
If you like Fallout 2 you are likely trans or a trans ally
FACT:
New Vegas was poorly written and buggy piece of shit that only contrarian midwits think was good
FACT:
Fallout 4 perfected the franchise
FACT:
Tim Cain and Chris Avellone like Fallout 3
FACT:
The worldwide consensus is that Fallout 3 is better than New Gaygas
couldn't care less what avellone likes
>I couldn't care less what Avellone thinks
>even though Avellone made my two favourite games Fallout 2 (which broke my egg) and New Gaygas
I majorly dislike both 2 and NV though
NMA falseflagger
Imagine getting mad on the internet about toys.
Have sex.
Stop replying to the attention seeking moron.
I fricking care about the quality of discussion of video games on the video games board on Ganker and you have the gall to make fun of me? I at least have the courage to call out NMA raiders, you fricking Black person. They've been doing this for years, they have threads on their forum organising fricking raids here to spread their bullshit narrative about Fallout 3 being bad. Like three dog says, I'm fighting the good fight. You're not.
But Fallout 3 is bad. Babbies first post apocalypse.
Why is it being accessible a bad thing?
>What's wrong with goyslop?
>kid in a fridge
>city around atomic bomb
Yes anon, those definitely are the pinnacle of the series.
My personal favorite is that there isn't a single example of actual civilization infrastructure. 200 fricking years after nuclear winter and apparently everyone just fights ghouls to get a watermelon from the grocery store ruins rather than plant some fricking wheat.
they put zero thoughts into worldbuilding in both F3 and F4.
People had garbage at home because obviously noone can clean in postapo world. In F4 - there is a restaurant with a skelleton in it, without windows, and there is no agriculture and I could go on.
In F1 and F2, people were trying to put their shit together and form a civilization, every town had some things planted and some animals
>. 200 fricking years after nuclear winter and apparently everyone just fights ghouls to get a watermelon from the grocery store ruins rather than plant some fricking wheat.
Yeah. US 200 years before 1945 when first nuke was made. 1745. Literally medival farming collony (plus black powder musket).
All companions in fallout 4 are bisexuals you fricking moron
No they're not
Yep. At least all romanceable-ones are.
Stop acting like Bethesda are the crusaders of conservatism because they are fricking not. You're outing yourselves as nostalgays who didn't play the games enough.
>Stop acting like Bethesda are the crusaders of conservatism because they are fricking not. You're outing yourselves as nostalgays who didn't play the games enough.
The protagonist of Fallout 4 is canonically heterosexual and any bisexual romances are by nature non-canon. You have been refuted, so you can delete your post now.
>No!!! Only the beginning of the game is canon because... because it is ok?!
Your mom is a bicycle.
Insane troony cope
have a nice day rajeesh
Ganker is an echo chamber but Fallout 3 was arguably more of a dudebro game who moved on from gaming except for the occasional YouTube short while NV fanboys are boomers who never moved on and still play videogames while being 40 years old
CP2077 is going to have threads like this in the future
>Video game writing has always ranged from cringe to barely above mediocre
>RPG gameplay has dramatically improved since FO3, especially the gunplay
>Character Creation and open worlds weren't completely ubiquitous
It's aged horribly, but at the time it was 'good'.
FFS, Wii Fit won 2 GotY awards in 2008.
>RPG
>gunplay
Oxymoron.
FPS can't be RPG (well it can with aimbot and shit but this is not case).
Gunplay is literally opposite to RPG. FACT.
Popular and high-quality are not the same. Neither is critic score, at least in this industry.
Because dickriders on here have been praising New Vegas since it's release and even though they are literally the same game, Fallout 3 being made first and the more popular one means it's bad.
When are we going to stop pretending that Fallout 3 is bad?
Fallout 3 is good until you pay attention to the writing.
Only quest that has some deep writing and choices is the Harold Quest.
Everything else is:
>Make whole city go kaboom.
>Or act like a normal human being and not do that.
Thats pretty sad when its a series famous for being well writen CRPG's
I always found this quest distasteful.
>bring back recurring character just to make him a tree that wants to die
Why did they have to do him so dirty?
It's distasteful and bleak just like the older fallouts were sometimes, and it's the only part on Fallout 3 in which you can debate with your peers what are the better choices, that's exactly what makes New Vegas so memorable.
Could've been worse. Have you seen Viconia and Sarevok in Baldur's Gate III?
Oh this thread is actually active unlike the ones from yesterday. I enjoyed the game, mostly the side content, but it was just ok or a little above average at best. story's dumb, tries too hard, killing a lot of the believability of it. Map's kind of shit, most of the left side sucks having nothing going on which is another problem with this game. NV kind of suffers from as well, but it's way worse in FO3, a lot of stuff is out of the way but not in fun or creative ways, yet stuff that isn't out of the way are usually the very strong weapons like the fricking Lincoln's reapter which is right next to a settlement in the ruins, Underworld, near a main quest and also has a quest pointing to it, given to by someone in Rivet City, A main settlement. The only other two things are armor pieces the takoma cap (extra melee damage) and lag-bolts armor (+10 AP. Broken Steel endgame required). Other than those 2 things the ruins are pointless and don't give you anything besides muh world building/pointless lore. Perks in FO3 suck making builds feel samey, but at least you get 1 every level. Speech check variety also sucks, A lot of them should've just been Barter checks, but I see why they did it, not a lot of npc to get checks from and if some were barter it would make speech a fricking shit skill. Back to builds, Luck is more OP in this game than NV, especially shotgun crits, and it's probably one of the only ways to really sort of enjoy this game in the endgame because it's very fun and I mean very very fun and totally not a slog to fight 2 albino radscorpions at once! I love resource drains! Don't forget these things, which are very easy to fight yet a slog, plus reavers and overlords become way too common at max level, how fun! Still it's not a bad game the more I think about it the more the saying "Oblivion with Guns" is true, still easily one of the more enjoyable bethesdaslop. It gave us NV and NV would give back with TTW which is best of both worlds, just play that.
2 decades of transgender youtube video essays and one indian man have damaged fallout 3s memory
Wasnt the guy who did the gamespot review Kevin vanord? so yeah the review was ass.
Also the most stolen by Black folk.
GOOD MORNING SIRS
>How the frick is liking it "contrarian"?
because this
>bestselling, best reviewed, most award-winning
happened when there was nothing better, and people were desperate for anything.
it was not worthy of any of the praise at the time, and sure as hell did not get any better with age.
Ganker says this about every year. 2008 had no shortage of good games.
Same with any GTA before 5 where people act like these weren't the single biggest AAA titles of their day but some forgotten indie masterpieces nobody but them played
Completely terrible game
Fallout 3 and NV are both shit. I can say NV at least tried not to be shit but what they had to work with was fundamentally bad and its obviously unfinished. Siding with anyone other than NCR locks you out of like half the game.
moronic take.
It isnt. Its the game that got me into fallout and still the best game Todd has made.
try to play it actually then, twittertard
I don't think anyone plain liking it is contrarian, I loved it when it came out. Unironically called off of work to stay home and play it some more, something I wouldn't have done had I known how awful it gets toward the end. People who like FO3 simply aren't experienced enough with other games to compare and contrast, which is what leads everyone else to dislike it now. Now people who PREFER it over other games that simply did better and clap their ears closed to any and all criticism of it, those are the contrarians.
It was very unique when it came out. There are more games like it these days. And on reflection it kinda sucked in many ways. Still, design wise it's actually better than Fallout 4
i'll tell you more
despite considered the worst by some oldgays and bloggers fallout 4 sold more than all previous fallouts combined