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Oh boy, all the more reason for shitty devs to make unoptimized games full of bloated 10bajillion polygon objects
As long as it all stays on the disc and doesn't require an install, not my problem.
Games get installed from the disc to reduce load times
That would require drives to have tremendous read speeds.
Just put a single 100 GB game on a disk 10000 times so the laser travel time is extremely short
Multi-disc games used to be the norm. Devs changed the "culture" of gaming to train the masses into accepting partial games paired with having to download the rest on a paid supscription service.
Yep. And take even longer to do it. Face it: it's not a phyisical capacity problem, and it's a developer problem. No one knows how to optimize any more, and the race for the most realistic graphics is a race that has yielded in hundreds of millions to make one fricking game, long development times, and not enough profits to justify it.
Nintendo is right. It's a race not worth running in.
it's time to have, like shared code libraries, shared assets libraries, games are using store assets anyway, they should exist only once in the system
>no cd art
soulless
You don't put data on both sides.if anything this allows double sided CD art by putting a graphic on the adhesive side
Oh that's a nice idea.
>someone writes a cheeky note or signature on the data side
>money stolen
imagine losing it after taking it out of the box
or worse moving it into the box of another game
>OH JESUS CHRIST
>tfw still have 3 like these full of pirated movies
those were the days
same but with 90% of all Dreamcast games
I got one for 360, Dreamcast and PSX. Still use the Dreamcast and PSX binders.
homie DEY ALL TRANSPARENT
>mfw still have these cases full of hentai and mp3
I still have a cylinder full of empty cds, I don't know what to do with it
you should do what i do
What kind of monster puts disks I to the wrong box? You were that kid who had his disks and cases all mixed up because you couldn't take two seconds to put a game back in its original case?
it will definitely be stored inside of a locked cartridge that can only be opened by a proprietary drive.
More importantly, these seem like they'd be a shoplifting nightmare.
this will be like the bank that made the completely transparent debit cards and realized it was a terrible idea as they constantly went missing
AYO WHERE DA DISC AT homie?
right here
frick you
I want 100TB minidisc so fricking bad.
This timeline sucks massively.
sovl
based minidisc chad. Not even a yuro but they're kino.
I want retro aesthetic back, everything now looks to simple and boring
Would love to own a console that look like this and has big chunky 100tb disk
you will consoom the sanitized aesthethic and you will like it
I don't want expensive pieces of plastic with detailed designs thank you very much
That has started happening in the auto industry so I imagine it will come around to other things eventually.
I LOVE MY MINIDISCS
What's with the ugly asiatic on the disc art
That's neat but I doubt it will become an industry standard any time soon. Especially since companies are trying to move away from physical releases as much as possible.
Source?
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3252737/chinese-teams-memory-leap-shrinks-data-centre-storage-capacity-dvd-sized-disk?campaign=3252737&module=perpetual_scroll_0&pgtype=article
This bit I'm skeptical about. I'm sure hardrives were made with the same intention in mind but then israelites in corporate suits took over the exclusive production rights and made sure it's not long-lived cause a returning customer is more profitable. watch as by the time this tech reaches the public market it's going to have warranty a tenth of what they expected.
Oh yeah, this is gonna sit well with the powers that be.
Everything is about to hard reset to the post crash 80's and 90's
History is cyclical.
>This bit I'm skeptical about. I'm sure hardrives were made with the same intention in mind but then israelites in corporate suits took over the exclusive production rights and made sure it's not long-lived cause a returning customer is more profitable.
a tale as old as time.
>HDD 5-10 years
>tfw 13 yo laptop with an HDD
Is it gonna implode any second now, or is it just because they don't make them like they used to?
Frick, now I'm really worried about upgrading because I want something with peak longevity and reliability but the planned obsolence israelite won't let me have it with modern hardware.
By the stars, why did Hitler have to be such a sperg?
most hdds are in businesses where they're used constantly, like in servers or surveillance
just switch it over to being a backup drive for less important things
>Chinese team
Oh so fake gotcha. It's like those usb drives that claim to be 1tb but it's just 500mb that constantly writes over itself.
>chinese
>Chinese teams
I'll believe it when I use it myself or my god emperor Donald Trump vouches for it
>tiny micro scratch
>Lose 1000TB worth of data
No. Learn how recovery data works, a few scratches are irrelevant
very cool, now hows the durability
>searching through 100TB at CD-rom speeds
holy loading times batman
>more disc rot memes
What is the capacity accounting for all the fault correction bits?
It's been ages but I remember some DvDs having over 50% being written on it be to correct the actual data you care about.
this is going to be a fluke just like with that chinese superconductor bullshit, isn't it
academic frauds are happening world wide.
yes but its nice to dream
If it comes from China and sounds too good to be true, it definitely is. They steal all their tech from the west.
They stole 5G so hard the west lost it.
that was Korean
Can we also increase your life spans to 1000 years? Because I don't want to imagine how long a game like this would take to be released.
Cool. It will only take 5 hours to load into memory.
>disk
>in the year of our lord 2008+16
really, homie?
I haven't had a disc drive for like 15 years.
>disc
Surprised nobody made a micro sd console/handheld
PS Vita, Switch
Oh, you mean game cards with out the third party lockout? Never ever.
It's not actually illegal to make and sell unlicensed games, see Sega v Accolade, which is why they add all sorts of bullshit in the console to keep them out.
I have a RGB10max with a bunch of pirated emulated retro games on a micro sd
Holographic disc/glass already exists.
Those take for fricking ever to to write, and they can't be rewritten. They are pretty much exclusively for cold storage.
Since this is china tech, I'll believe it's real when I use it and not a moment before.
>china
Stopped reading there
a few us companies have come up with the same technology.
why not just say PB?
Because a PB is 1024 TB, not 1000.
do discs deteriorate with use or just with time?
i know ssds deteriorate with use so they arent a reliable way to tore something forever, but disks havent disapointed me yet
You can make discs last a long time. (See m-disc)
They finally took my advice and made thicker discs so they can store more data inside them
Wow that's impressive, they already put the entire PS5 library on that disc!
>can no longer do this
peak soulless
???
He doesn't look bad. Maybe some thick DSLs.
Do morons really not understand self-decrepating humor?
They never stopped being on the menu because discs were never the answer.
It's not really physical if you don't save to it as well and discs never did that.
We can't keep downloading games anons. Even with discs they come with fricking downloads. It's not comprehensible to keep adding data without buying more storage and we're back to fricking memory cards from the PS1 era.
WE ARE BACK TO FRICKING MEMORY CARDS!!!
>Transparents aren't complete failures after all
Noice.
Looks like Chinese bullshit is back on the menu
I see your 1000TB disk that will cost a billion $ and raise you a 60TB SSD that costs only $2.35
How moronic of an idea is it to shop for new hardware from that chink hole? I want a budget puter but I don't want it to explode and take my head off after I run it because chinks.
84.6% positive feedback though
Those reviews are botted.
No way. Roland from Poland would never lie to me.
Ganker has a chink shit general for people who like risking purchases on those kinds of sites.
I buy all of my miscellaneous junk from there like cables, fasteners, adapters, pcie gadgets etc. I wouldn't build an entire rig out of pure chinkshit mainly due to the shipping time and hassle of potentially returning anything but it's the same stuff you get from israeliteegg or Amazon at a markup
>60TB SSD from temu that'll be cooked in 6 months
By then temu will become temi
The more you store the more you'll lose, it's genius
no fricking way thats a real working ssd
It's probably a 256MB flash drive kek
My Brazilian friend got a "512GB" one from aliexpress once, and it ended up not even having a flash chip soldered to the board. Just a controller that would report 512GB and error if you tried doing anything with it.
>Here's your 10TB HDD for $50 bro
>Its actually a 2GB flashdrive
imagine you don't know your SSD is fake and you take one like these unknowingly on a holiday trip through an airport x-ray scanner
you are swarmed by FBI-SWAT and a robot shoots your luggage
then they find it was just harmless picrel and your day is ruined
chinks are so based
Why would you take a drive you've never used before with you on vacation?
because you want to have your data around on a business trip?
And how would you do that for a flash drive that reveals it's a scam the instant you TRY to put your data in it?
you sure ask a lot of questions, feddie
>this 2mb pdf is the first of many great things i will put on my new work documents drive. i can't wait to add to it later.
Damn. Can't argue with a guy who takes that much joy in putting their files in things.
>gets delivered
>60mb
Upon further reading you can buy two of them and get a $3 off discount, so it's 120TB for only $1.70. What a steal.
my friend fell for this chink shit
there's usually a microSD attatched to some USB inside of it
it said 10GB when he paid for 2TB lmao
Aren't these scams just bridge boards for micro sd cards with borked software to report more memory than they actually have?
Yep, sometimes it won't even have any actual storage, it'll just be a controller that reports the fake size but you can't actually do anything with it
you're just racist against ping pong chinamen, fricking bigot
are you moronic, anon
honestly thought no one fell for these scams... but here we are on the dumbest fricking site on the internet! moron!
>bringing back easily scratchable disks in current year where there are more non-whites than ever
good luck with that idea
Well that's cool but how viable is it? It's probably going to cost way more than normal disks.
Can someone explain to me how you can stock informations in a piece of glass?
This looks like magic to me
Magnet is invisible.
physical gaming is dead
long live physical
>thinking you will actually get a disc in this age when children are so stupid they don't know how to use a controller
>even more confused when faced with a arcade stick
But how would you be able to tell which side is up or down?
Sadly, you will still need to install the game in order to actually play it.
>whops! There is a bug that whenever player jump they will jump higher than they should!
>downloading 250GB update to fix it!
Too bad it's a scam, i want one for archival
>1000TB storage
>game still requires a 200GB update and install
You are now imagining that scene from ATHF where Meatwad eats the chip, except he throws the disc in OP's pic instead thinking it was a discus.
>no disc art anymore
>no rounded edges like the wii u discs
Soulless
>enters the chat
It was made by chinks, don't expect anything decent out of this.
I won't believe it until I get my hands on it.
You have to be an absolute slob and don't take care of your device and discs at all to let this happen.
clown world
I read this article last year. Full moronation.
No, the next evolution of the merchant navy is NUCLEAR powered ships.
nuclear has been used for ages in ships and subs, is it cost that stops it from being used on merchant ships?
cost and being dangerous
you can't expect the dregs they hire on merchant ships to not turn their vessel into a nuke and shit up the ocean
we need water trains
but the earth train israelites have boicoted the idea
Wow, why didn't anyone think of this until now? It's so simple when you think about it.
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Why not just use wind turbine?
Make a 360 degree wind turbine, and power the ship with that.
Super environmental friendly.
Concept by itself is not really as stupid and WEFish as it was portrayed by various news sites.
Ship main propulsion is still its engine but when going downwind kite sail is deployed reducing fuel consumption.
Giant israelites?
>1000TB
That's a lot of porn!
>Chinese
its litearlly just a piece of plastic isnt it
>readspeed 100mb/s
Being cinophobick and russophobic is not cool, guys, china is fricking top dog when it comes to science and they are beating america in every aspect besides ONE category
>quantity beats quality
yeah.. no
You tactfully ignored the last third of the picture, didn't you?
You have been beaten in both quantity and quality.
rank doesn't mean good. it fricking lists topics and amounts of papers on that topic.
>blockchain
>relevant
i mean you already made yourself look like a moron.
If this is the case, why does BRICS cause the US such consternation?
Why does Badinya see China as his main enemy?
Why does America feel pressure from the alternative pole of the world?
Merican here. never heard of brics until now but I want to have sex with them all.
Huezilian here, nobody in our country cares or takes BRICS seriously, matter of fact those who actually care don't want to be associated with countries like China and Russian because they're aren't liberal democracies like we are (in theory at least).
You're just a liberaha. 2% shit. We had those in our country too, before they were squeezed out like a poupehoo.
98% of Brazilians are base young people who support BRICS and the fight against American hegemony.
Wrong pic
I love how the Indian doesn't have anything of value
Holy frick as someone from brazil this is the biggest cope I have ever seen related to brics. Thank god milei changed the destiny of argentina and said he wouldnt join them
>he doesn't understand that most of those "papers" aren't replicable
the same is true for the american "papers" so what's the difference
Based
~~*They*~~ are afraid of China
>socialist vs socialist
I hope both of them die
I didn't differentiate.
are you really a chink shill
Someone correct me if I'm stupid, but since this disk has such massive storage; wouldn't that mean that even the smallest of scratches would frick up the data stored inside more easily?
Yes, it would.
it would take several years to transfer 1000TB on a disc driver
even the most advanced luray players can read/write at 5-10MB/sec
So you can install 3 cod games on it?
disc rot
my 10 year old discs still work
my PSX games from 1996 still work and look perfect
This is a cope that basedboys make because they own nothing.
I own everything on 18TB LTO drive that I rotate every 6 months.
I've had discs frick up before but only CD-Rs that were kept in my car. The fact that they were being cooked half the year was probably a major reason for their failure.
How are you gonna know which disk is which, part of it would have to be changed to not be transparent which might be a significant reduction in capacity.
>Outlandish claim
>Chinese
Its glass.
Unless the cost of manufacturing the disks, burning data onto the disks, and shipping the disks is cheaper than online distribution I don't think many software companies will be eager to go back to physical media.
sony and microsoft are both struggling with the fact that digital media is not eclipsing physical media for video games at all
capitalism in general is struggling with the fact that terminals and off-site processing are never going to eclipse dedicated computers and on-site processing, and terminals or off-site processing in general makes zero sense for most computing applications, so companies are trying to force the issue (see cloud computing, cloud gaming)
u vill own nothing and u vill be happy regardless of not wanting it
you VILL become part of my 1984 high-school nightmare scenario
It's tape
LTO-9 shipped in 2021, with 18TB (uncompressed) per tape. $100 a piece, so $5.50 per terabyte. Drives are still nuts, hovering around the $5k range, and at the speeds they require you can really only drive one with fiber channel links. Tough to get that into a home lab for sure.
It's a very niche medium, with wider adoption prices would come down for sure. Still I'm not sure if this sort of storage is good for fast access or just for archival purposes.
No, it's definitely "cold" storage, best for archival uses. It's certainly not rapid access (it can take two+ minutes to mount the tape, and minutes more to seek to a known spot to fetch some specific piece of data, then however long it takes to actually read it).
Off-lease/used tape libraries still pop up from time to time on ebay though. I scored a 4U rackmount 48-tape library with two LTO-5 drives installed (and room for 2 more up to LTO-8) for $500 a few months back, so there *are* deals out there. Still a heavy investment to get started with though.
Fuji demoed a 580tb tape 3 years ago
Consumers can’t use these, they are very delicate
Various teams (and companies) have all made bold storage claims for decades. Holographic storage, DNA storage, huge capacities on CD form-factor, all of it. Not once has it ever come to fruition in a device a company (or individual) can buy and put to their own use. The highest capacity optical media you can actually buy today is a BD-XR -- triple-layer 100GB Blu-Ray recordable. They're expensive and very finicky. It always stings when a burn onto one of those goes bad 80% through.
For actual massive capacity with archival quality, you want tape.
>physical games
UHD-BD is already good enough for most games besides the hyperbloated stuff like COD or GTA.
The problem is read speed, which is why even if you do physical it's just a vehicle to install all the game's data onto your console, and then act as a license to access said data.
The issue with spinning media is non-sequential read times.
>this 1 disc can fit entire library of every game from the NES gen up to the PS2/Gamecube/Dreamcast/Xbox gen
it still cannot fit the entire saturn library
Why not start with gen 1 ?
because my post could fit those games if Ganker let you post different file types
What ? I mean like start with atari
Great I dropped it and now it's lost forever.
>drop disk on the floor
>it vanishes
OP's image is fricking FAKE and gay, its only 200TB storage.
and there is no mention of read/write speeds, this thing probably writes at the standard disc speeds of like 80MB/s
>While the production workflow of the new disks is compatible with existing DVD technology, Wen said the team will continue to improve the speed and reduce the energy needed to write and read data from the disk.
What would be the point of a 1000TB disk if it still had to spin?
I'm not into trans shit
This shit reminds me of back when I bough blank dvds and cds to store everything on, and I still have them in perfect working condition just left in my closet in their spindles almost 20 years later.
Going through them is like a blast from the past and full of things you can no longer find on the internet, since sites go down, media gets lost and things lose interest.
Back then buying a spindle of blank dvds was like 12-15 dollars for over 200gigs of storage at a time when the equivalent on an hdd was way more expensive.
discs are dogshit thoughbeit!!
I’d need to see it in action before I believe a Chinese team actually made this, but if it’s real this could be a great way to revive physical media if it’s cheap enough. Digital media is convenient but setting the digital rights bullshit aside, the second biggest problem with digital is that it’s unoptimized and a storage hog that makes it hard to keep a library of games on your computer. Having a cd hold that much info and also be able to show really cool cd art on a transparent disc sounds great to me.
But the thing is the industry is moving in Gabe Newell's favor, and intentionally moving away from physical media so they can better control it while destroying used-game sales.
Isn't the best application for this just to put it in a hard drive casing and using it like a regular HDD?
Unless it's cheap as frick.
did you bother to look up transfer speeds? did the question of drive performance even occur to you, the consumer with no understanding of tech, before deciding that price was the only other factor?
If this is actually real it will have incredible value regardless, also if the material is 99% plastic and (maybe silver?) could be isolated in a box or something and only get exposed to light for reading so the data will last basically forever unlike hard disk that will lose magnetism over time.
Wrong thread. What video game are you talking about?
whoops. fork knife. wrong browser tab.
>cost of the disc: $100
yeah..... physical games back, sure
>games cost $100
>none of the money goes to shitty publishers or devs, just disc manufacturers
based
>here's your videogame for $200 + tip
this exact thing has been overhyped for like 20 years now
>3D optical media is just 5 years away!
>2014
That's cool let me know when one worth playing comes out
>hurrr easily damageable media that takes up a frickton of space is totally the future
Nintendo's still the only one that realized discs are fricking stupid
>1990s Nintendo: Disc are gay
>2020s Nintendo: Disc are still gay
lol
If by physical you mean storing every game ever made on one hard drive, sure.
Doesn't matter until they can mass produce it and people can buy at reasonable price.
Frick, I used to throw those away in the trash. No one told me they were 100TB
Holographic storage, right?
>0.23 cents to manufacture this
>pays chink worker 0.03 cents hourly
>charges $500 in the U.S.
no thank you.
Wait until you hear about all the US companies using outsourcing for labor.
>Chinese Engineers have-
Fake and Chinese. The chinese haven't invented shit in centuries, be real.
This probably isn't for games, probably for mass storage. I can't imagine the read times are gonna be very high.