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Not even close. You need to at least be better than DSII first before you stat talking about DS III.
If a game is better than DS2 it's leagues better than DSlop3.
And here are the compulsively contrarian homosexuals. DS2 is a sewage waste of a game and your mouth is the dumbing place for it. The only reason to play DS2 is just to have bragging rights as to the fact that you beat all DS games. It's inferiorbto 3 in every way.
2 is better than 3 zoomer
Cope AND Seethe
Any game is better than DSII
not LotF lmao
yes, even LotF
DS2 and DS3 are awful as far as FromSoft games go but they as devs are far above any other devs in the past 14 years, both of those games are still great when compared to all games since 2009
It is better than DS2 though. It's literally a better DS2.
better bait than OP.
Fix your game.
I have the strongest PC in the world and I can even maintain a stable 60 fps.
the your pc is shit
NTA, i'm running a 3090, i should get more than 40fps on medium settings at 1440p. My pc is good, the game is extremely badly made.
How's it play on PS QUINTUPLE?
ironically the latest patch apparently made PS5 performance worse
I wonder if Blighttown on the PS triple runs worse than Lords of the Fallen on PS5
Is the New Game+ easier than normal? I want to unlock the evil ending class as quick as possible.
ng+ has only 2 permanent vestiges.
You are legit better off making a new character if you want to do the umbral ending for example.
Otherwise eh.
Didn't they just patched in Vestiges back because everyone was complaining about it?
yes, but it will still have fewer than your initial run, and each new NG+ will have fewer and fewer.
>Marketing and budget = 200M zlotys = 40 Million
>1 Mill sales = 40 million dollars conservatively
They EASILY made back the budget and now every single copy after is profit. LOTF2 confirmed and will fix all the issues everyone complained about in this one.
I am glad more souls games exists, I enjoy them a lot.
hopefully, this game has sick aesthetics, better combat mechanics, and a much darker dark fantasy than any fromsoft game.
Is the combat animation still weightless and floaty as in the gameplay trailer?
It's actually somehow much worse than it looked in the trailers. The only people who like LotF(2) are people with little to no standards for gameplay. It has seriously the worst sound design and animations I've ever seen in a soulslike (since LotF1 of course)
This game should be good but it sucks so fricking bad from a gameplay standpoint. They have no idea what makes souls games good. They went all in on the dark fantasy, and it looks nice, but I don't play these games for how they look.
combat is shit, animations are ultra shit and art directions is american comicbook vomit
How are LotF gays so deranged? Animations and art direction are bottom 2/10 garbage in this game, it must be the devs posting this shit because fact is this is not even remotely on the level of FromSoft design
and budget = 200M zlotys = 40 Million
The devs never said this.
>https://www.reuters.com/technology/video-game-maker-ci-games-shares-down-after-reviews-lords-fallen-2023-10-13/#:~:text=%22The%20game's%20total%20budget%20(production,quite%20ambitious%22%2C%20he%20added.
>"The game's total budget (production and marketing) is around 200 million zlotys, and according to our estimates, the company should sell 1.4-1.5 million copies"
>third party analyst
And they said it was their estimate. So, again, the devs never said that.
>So, again, the devs never said that.
Nobody said devs said that. The third-party analyst is invested in the company. It's a public stock, it benefits them to get a pretty accurate estimate. It's not going to be double or half that. It'll be around that range.
>Nobody said devs said that
Someone tried talking about the game's official budget when there isn't one because the developers nor the publisher ever talked about it. Then someone tried posting
in response to me pointing that out so I just reiterated that it wasn't official but an estimate from an unaffiliated party.
>The third-party analyst is invested in the company.
No, they are not. And you can go look this up yourself. This par tis all public knowledge because CI is publicly traded. The company in that article is not on their investor list. And if they knew the budget they wouldn't call it an estimate, they would know what it was.
>Someone tried talking about the game's official budget
Nobody said it's the official budget. Of course, we're going to use the estimate that's public information. You're being way too anal about this. The range also makes sense on how much they need to budget. So it's meeting expectations.
>No, they are not. And you can go look this up yourself.
A lot of these analyst's job at these banks is to look up these things. It doesn't mean the bank is invested as a board of directors. It could mean some level of holdings or debt, or just want to short it. It's just in their interest to have some level of accurate assessment instead of just randomly throwing out fake numbers.
>Nobody said it's the official budget.
I don't know how else you could interpret
then the follow up post to me when I specified that it wasn't the devs that said it. The guy, you if that's who it was, clearly meant that at first.
None of the shit you're trying to argue with me about disproves what I said. The figure posted is not official because it isn't from the publisher or the developer and when he replied to me by saying they're obviously going to know this information because they 're invested in the company, I said they aren't and you can look it up since it's public info. The budget isn't public knowledge because it was never disclosed by either party. You keep trying to talk about an estimate from another company as a fact.
It just feels like you're just replying to me to argue about something pointless.
>lotf2 confirmed
you mean LOTF (2028)
>source: my ass
Is it worth buying at this point or does it need more patches?
Nioh 2 > Nioh > BB > DaSo3 > Elden Ring > Lies of P > Sekiro > DaSo > DeSo > LOTF > DaSo2 >>>> DaSo SotS
>Nioh 2 > Nioh > BB
ignored.
Mechanically they're just better video games. No if, and, or but about it.
They really aren't
I've played them and all FromSoft games are mechanically superior
Some people pretend to like Nioh out of sheer anti-From contrarianism; Code Vein """""fans"""""" do the same.
>Actual combat and combo system
>Weapons with actual movesets
>Graphically superior to majority of Soulsbornes
>Actual story instead of headcanon Zanzifarts
>Great music instead of the made-up language choir over generic orchestral
>Actual character power progression over "sweet i upraded 6 times now i can do the same damage but to this new enemy!"
only 5 of those things are true
>Actual combat and combo system
Literal bloat that serves no purpose beyond creating the illusion of depth.
>Weapons with actual movesets
Which ironically is very anemic compared to the average Souls game, in contrast to the mechanical bloat.
Every Souls weapon has its own moveset, while all the weapons of the same class on the Nioh games share the same moveset.
>Graphically superior to majority of Soulsbornes
It's one of the ugliest-looking games on the PS4. Only the characters look decent because they're just facescanned actors.
>Actual story instead of headcanon Zanzifarts
And said story is just a bunch of directionless walking through Japanese history that makes no sense for someone who doesn't care about Japanese history.
>Great music instead of the made-up language choir over generic orchestral
What music? It pretty much has no music.
>Actual character power progression over "sweet i upraded 6 times now i can do the same damage but to this new enemy!"
The Nioh games have the worst progression system of all the Souls games due to being based on RNG loot.
You just in the mood to argue? You're so wrong on every point.
Nah, I'm right and you know it.
Ganker hated the frick out of the first Nioh game because at the time the board didn't feel the need to hate From Software so they were honest to themselves.
After Sekiro's success and Elden Ring's first reveal the board started hating From Software due to growing too big and too popular (basically became another AAA developer), so the board decided to give its back to the developer and use other games as weapons against it. So Nioh 2, which is pretty much a glorified Nioh 1 DLC, was choose as one of those weapons even when no one would call it a good game.
>Ganker hated the frick out of the first Nioh
Never played nioh but you basically just admitted it's good
No, it's quite the opposite.
Nioh 1 is one of the worst Souls clones; original Lords of the Fallen tier. Ganker hated it because at the time the board not only recognized a bad game but it didn't need to pretend that bad games were good so they could use it as a weapon against a very popular game.
Nioh 2 is as bad as the first, but the situation changed. Ganker knows that it is a bad game, but as long as it serves as an anti-From Software weapon the board is willing to pretend it is good.
And now Lords of the Fallen 2023 is praised on the same manner, being used as the newest anti-From weapon.
>Nioh 1 is one of the worst Souls clones; original Lords of the Fallen tier. Ganker hated it because at the time the board not only recognized a bad game but it didn't need to pretend that bad games were good so they could use it as a weapon against a very popular game.
Wtf are you about? No one said the game was bad, this is some moronic revisionism. I guarantee you didn't even post here when the game out.
NTA but I bought the PS4 version back in 2017 when it launched; the threads either 404'd or it was full of shitposting like the Spiderman threads here so I gave up on talking about the game after a few days.
You are mental. Very few thought Nioh was good when it came out. It was universally criticized as a shitty Souls clone here, and thats what it is. Now you pretend it's good because you are a contrarian and can not stand popular devs.
Fact is Nioh games are inferior to Souls games in combat, art direction, lore, graphics, level design, world design, adventure, exploration, RPG mechanics. There is not a single thing Nioh does better.
Like other anon said yes Nioh combat is bloated, and you didnt understand what that means. What it means is, what use do majority of its many attacks and combos serve, when you can just find one strong one and spam your way through the game with that, and it will be just as effective as using all attacks? The only reason all those attacks exist in Nioh is just to style on your enemies, its just moronic DMC bing bing wahoo weeb combo shit for style points, in other words bloat.
Every attack you have in Souls games serves an actual functional purpose against specific enemies, against specific bodyparts of enemies.
>you can just R1 through Souls games
But you would be playing very inefficiently by doing this, except in DS3 which I admit has awful combat. While spamming just 1 good attack is efficient in both Nioh games, they both have the same problem as DS3.
>Very few thought Nioh was good when it came out
damn, I didn't know good taste was in such short supply
>damn, I didn't know good taste was in such short supply
Stop lying, you're either new (if so save yourself and your sanity from this mental asylum) or you've never been to any thread about any games since 2012.
This shithole has been irrevocably ruined by TORtanic, and is filled to the brim with literal 12 YOs and zoomers who never knew anything before the 360 gen.
the first nioh was pretty well liked because of how much of an upgrade the combat system was over souls games even though it was worse in a lot of other ways
2 improves the combat a lot even then but has even more flaws than the original
>even more flaws than the original
Feel free to name any of them.
Everything he said was true. It's you who was wrong on every point, literally so pathetic you had to lie to invent like 5 arguments against the clearly superior Souls games.
>looter shit
enough said
>Literal bloat that serves no purpose beyond creating the illusion of depth.
"it's bloat because I said so for the thousandth time", soulsbornering game don't even have the tools to create any illusion of depth
but please show us some footage of you beating a depths boss with just light attacks
>Every Souls weapon has its own moveset, while all the weapons of the same class on the Nioh games share the same moveset.
lol, they have a different R2 (that they generally still share with another weapon) at best and/or a unique ash of war
they hated it because the demo muneshiggy boss fight filtered 95% of the people here lmao
you're a moronic fromdrone
Yes
No
Being contrarian is not a personality, hivemind of Ganker.
Nioh cucks are truly mentally ill Holy shit kek
Souls games objectively have better combat mechanics, look way better than Nioh, and have a 10000x more story and lore (what the frick made you think it was made up by fans, its all there in the games)
You didn't even have the nerve to bring up level design when FromSoft is the clear undisputed king of it, even to a deranged Nioh weeb
I like From's Souls and Code Vein(mostly because of how fun experimenting with Blood Codes and Gifts was), but hated Nioh for the shitty loot system. What does this make me?
I like Nioh because it lets me beat the shit out of skeletons with my fists
It’s so much better and people who deny it are just shit at Nioh or never played it. I’m playing through Lies of P right now and it’s ok, but I just wanna go back to Nioh 2. It’s ok for games to have more than just 2 nearly identical moves, some might even say it improves the game significantly.
Mental illness
Of course a groomer troony would say such things
Here is the real tier list:
Dark Souls > Demon's Souls > BB > ER > Sekiro > Nioh 2 >>> DS2 >>>>> DS3 > Nioh > Lies of Piss > LotF
Nioh gays proving once again they're the most insecure clowns by barging in where no one called them
>conveniently leaving out the best of all of them
isnt final fantasy more like devil may cry?
Jacks game is more like Nioh
holy kino
this game is great until you get to the dlc content and you have to deal with all the moronic gearing systems
Sorry, typo. I was completely moronic for a moment, probably because I was trans but now I'm better. Here's the corrected version
Sekiro > BB > Lies of P = DS1 > DS3 > ER = DS2 > Nioh 2 > Nioh 1
and frick DeS
Oh and LotF comes before Nioh 2 in the F rank shitpile
how do you guys not have souls fatigue yet. Lies of P just came out.
Souls games are rage fuel but I still want to play them
>Lords of the Fallen remake
when are they remaking it?
Cause first one was a crap uninspired slop but in reality is a ghost sequel like nord onions of war
That tweet is zanzibart tier nonsense
If Lies of P ever wants to get close to that number they better patch in a shirtless skin
been there done that
>1 week vs 1 month
>3 platforms vs 5
lmao
>Game Pass vs. not Game Pass
>sales vs not sales
Why even mention gamepass like it mattered? We're talking about game sales. gamepass subscribers are not sales.
Also more people played LotF on xbox even though it isn't even on gamepass. Stop coping.
>more people played LotF on xbox
proofs?
The xbox website. Go look up the most played games section.
>game that came out a week ago is played more than a game that came out a month ago
really thought you were onto something there huh
Lmao so then why did you bring up gamepass, cuck?
because gamepass would naturally affect the number of copies a game sells
>gamepass game has less players than a game without it
Ok, now we're back to square one.
>inb4 that doesn't count
So then stop talking about it. You're just arguing in circles if you do.
even if Lies of P wasn't on Game Pass, I would expect it to have less players than LotF, simply because LotF is more recent
You're acting like they came out years apart. And if you bothered looking at that chart, there are older games above both of them.
Stop replying already, you aren't even saying anything substantial anymore.
>muh playercounts
>muh sales
maybe learn to judge games based on the actual games rather than your precious metrics
>lotf sold more in a faction of the time on fewer platforms and at a higher pricing point
>>uhhh but muh gamepass??
>ok but lotf has more players too according to the xbox website
>>that doesn't count
Stop coping.
but how do they play anon? You have...played these games, right? You're not just trying to do a console war for no reason, right?
Stop moving the goalpost, schizo. You lost an hour ago.
so that's a no? You have no idea how either game plays, so you have to fall back on muh metrics?
>no argument
Lmao, concession accepted. You lost then just tried to argue about something else completely unrelated to the topic at hand. This discussion was about player counts on xbox and sales then when you got btfo you tried screeching about something else entirely.
You aren't going to get some internet "win" because of this.
you lost the moment you started hollering about playercounts
But you brought it up first, so are you saying you lost? Nice one, moron.
>LotF sold better
>>w-well actually the majority of LoP players are on gamepass/Xbox!!!
>LotF has more players on Xbox than LoP does
>>uhhh uhhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhh
>how do they play?
Lies of Poop plays like poop, Lords of the Fallen plays like butter.
>t. Xbox gamepass owner who played Lies on it and then bought the deluxe edition of LotF
yeah, butter as in you go sliding around the room every time you attack
>not using the bnuyyy sexo gurl for the poster
Sad
>THANK YOU FOR 1MIL ACK!
Bros, there's no boss as annoying as Hollow Crow, right? Beat it after a couple tries, but getting RNG'd into ice casters while slow and trying to dodge 6000 other things did not spark joy.
>they keep patching this shit
so are they fixing it or making it worse?
Reminds me of the first game I ever put on Steam, I was basically adding an update every other day. Every time I got a comment or some feedback lol
After this patch my game doesn't have music anymore and somehow all the saves are corrupted so I would say worse.
> lampbearers
BEARER OF THE LAMP
One hub npc actually always calls you "Bearer of the Lamp". Made me lol, their influences are pretty clear.
kek
Damn that's literally me
I applaud how shameless they are about ripping of Fromsoft.
You could seriously fool people who haven't played all the games into thinking it was a new Dark Souls game from gameplay footage.
You absolutely could not, are you blind? FromSoft has the best animations while LotF has 1 man indie game animations
You wanna see shameless?
https://pastebin.com/raw/UqZL75Bd
This is a list of every game item ID in the game
Now
>ctrl+f "estus"
>ctrl+f "homeward"
My favorite is the scooby sword.
I thought Lies of P was incredibly shameless already.
Nah the devs behind LotF even bragged about how they want to be right behind fromsoft in the soulsborne genre since they really don't have any competition from any other companies
Well done western devs well done. You finally made it to 2016. However..
>ice skating slop
>better than anything
lmao
"Better than the worst Souls game" isn't exactly something to be proud about.
every time someone does this
>"thanks for X views/copies/etc."
I can't see them as anything more than
>hey look at us, pay attention to us, celebrate our success by paying us
it's vain as shit, doesn't really offer the consumer anything new. Anyone who does immediately gets ignored, unfollowed, and unsubscribed by me. Be it an artist, creator, or game developer.
I thought this game budget was around 100 million dollars, it's more around 40 million.
What do you think ER budget was? I doubt it was 200 million dollars like Sony games or other AAA, as they expected ER to sell around 3 million in a month
100 mil at most considering they reused assets and there's barely any cutscenes.
Good. This new company making it has promise. It's a hell of a lot better than the original was in pretty much everything.
>yet another "souls-like"
DS setting off this trend is almost as bad as the battle royale trend
It would be fine if From's cult would just shove their heads up their asses and play their own trashfires. Instead they latch onto any action game that's vaguely similar and it's immediately a Soulslike and held to a fairy-tale standard that even From doesn't achieve with their unoptimized broken trash.
>nstead they latch onto any action game that's vaguely similar and it's immediately a Soulslike
Like what games specifically? Give some examples of this happening
NTA but the only example I could possibly think of would be Darksiders 3. I can’t think of any other examples. I believe it’s just schizo rambling.
But DS3 was literally designed to be souls inspired including devs mentioning it lol
Yeah I know but that’s the only thing that even vaguely fits the description the anon gave.
moron
Seething trannies, none of your scenarios have even happened.
Souls games are the best genre of all time. Deal with it.
I really liked it. The exploration reminded me of ds1 and ds2
Since OP brings up DS3 "randomly" I can assume the shilling for this game is coming from the DS2 sisters and the game is probably really bad like DS2.
Am I on the money?
Over the target laddie.
Great 1 million mindless slopshit eaters
Lies of P and Lords of the Fallen are both excellent games, and this is great for us fromsoft fans because now there is competition.
Lies of P, on the surface is probably the "better" game. Its production value is obviously better and more faithful to the soulsbourne formula. However it doesn't innovate and doesn't do anything better than Bloodborne.
Lords of the Fallen has its faults, its literally Dark Souls 2 clone. However its way more innovative than Lies of P and does something that Fromsoft was not able to do. One the other world stuff is pretty cool and the scale of such a thing is impressive and its innovative. But the star of the show is that Lords of the Fallen hands down as the greatest coop in soulsbourne and will be the standard moving forward. Having a coop friend be able to join your game and never leave after bosses is just amazing and suprising that fromsoft never incorporated this life changing feature.
AI post
Both are weightless, floaty combat with trash animation. But Lies of P just has more screen shake effects to create the feeling of heavy hitting lol
You haven't played either game, you just save webms from anons that have and repost them in every one of these threads.
I just post this webm for the lul, you could just post your webm if you want.
Lop and Lotf combat look weightless as shit lmao, just the bootleg asiaticshit has more stupid screen shake than the bootleg eurojank lol
shut the frick off homosexual you never played either, you welfare parasite Black person
Feel free to prove me wrong, screenshake is a cheap mmo trick to make the attack feel more powerful. Both games animations are weightless and floaty as shit compare to stuff like MH, ER, Sekiro, DS
Elden Ring's combat suck ass homosexual, and I have 1.5k hours on it. Mobs are piss easy, and there's nothing fun about having to do a 10+ combo dodge roll just to get one single hit in, unless you're some meta OP build that destroys the boss in 1 or 2 hits. Also, bosses and mobs that hit through walls is cringe shit and fromsoft hasn't fixed this since EVER
>Elden Ring's combat suck ass homosexual, and I have 1.5k hours on it. Mobs are piss easy, and there's nothing fun about having to do a 10+ combo dodge roll just to get one single hit in, unless you're some meta OP build that destroys the boss in 1 or 2 hits. Also, bosses and mobs that hit through walls is cringe shit and fromsoft hasn't fixed this since EVER
You don't know how to read or what? I don't give a shit about what you feel about ER, i was talking about the combat animation of LoTF and LoP are both weightles and floaty as frick, and LoP has shit load of cheap ass screen shake effect. Why are you suddenly blabbering about easy and build and shit, the frick?
moron
Lords of the Fallen combat is vomit inducing, it completely destroyed the balance of ranges and movesets of weapons and combat options.
Developers should have learned from Elden Ring
what the frick is this movement, each swing makes the character travel half a fricking mile
You're a fricking moronic pathetic asiatic
>Post was talking about how the combat animation in lop and lotf sucks
>WAAAAAAH ER THIS ER THAT WAAAAAAAH
lul
he mentioned ER that's why I brought it up, you dumb homosexual
And he was mentioned about ER combat animation, not the shit you're sperging about
and I moved the goalpost, cry harder b***h.
LOL
ER has the same Great sword overhead slash but why it look and feel so heavy, meaty? Meanwhile this look like he's slashing through paper some shit?
Because apparently only FromSoft knows how to do animations
This is a lie, literally every Souls game is drastically different from each other one. I am totally convinced you shitskins spamming souls hate have never actually played the games. Literally the only similarity is that they are the same genre, but your whining is so fricking asinine, it's like complaining that you jump around on platforms in every Crash Bandicoot game. What kind of fricking subhuman nonwhite moron demands a dev studio to reinvent the wheel every new game, when it's objectively better to keep doing what you already invented and build more upon it each game, which is exactly what they have been doing.
You're that fricking moron driving around on rectangular wheels because you thought it would be lazy to reuse the circular shape.
The game is too easy, by far the easiest Souls game ever, but the combat is great and you sound moronic as frick. Wtf are you on about, dodge a bunch and then get 1 hit in? Sounds like you are describing dark souls 3, not Elden Ring.
That is not at all how ER combat is, which is why the combat is so good in ER.
>can enjoy both
I can tell you are a man of great taste. The people that want to fling shit like monkeys need to start closing threads about games they aren't interested in. It's like they believe their shitposting will convince anyone to think their way
Lies of P is a polished game, but I prefer LotF for my own personal tastes. They both accomplish different things and that's good
If you only play one because you listened to some sad gay on Ganker, you're only missing out
I have seen no one talking about Lies of P's exploration vs Lords exploration. There is no competition there, and lords biggest problem with exploration is there's too many enemies in umbral.
Kill red reaper and equip umbral eye he drops. It will make umbral explorations way easier.
I am playing LOTF right now and I am just happy that Souls fans are eating this good right now. I have little reason to play any other Genres than Soulslike games, I just enjoy this type of game a lot and there are a lot of good options.
>and I am just happy that Souls fans are eating this good right now.
lol
lmao even
These soulsclone are dying pretty fast nowadays huh?
What do you mean by "dying"? Lies of P is single player and like 30 hours long, people are just moving on.
Sekiro is singleplayer too?
Sekiro isn't on Gamepass lmao
What is the number of peepee player on gamepass? didn't see it anywhere on the top 100 of gamepass even when it just released
>Rented game for 1 month vs buying game for $60
Seem like people still rather buys and plays Sekiro instead of the newest bootleg asiaticshit From killer eh?
how long do i have to wait before the devs release 1.0? there's been a new patch every other day because they don't know what the frick they want to do with the game
playercount metric posters have to seriously be the dumbest Black folk to come out of nu-/v/. i wish you all realized your intelligence is lowest common denominator level
God this shit is cringe. Why does every dev now feel the need to make a twitter post announcing their mediocre sales?
>meanwhile From
>A company with almost 20 years of dedicated fans of Souls games
>Founded in 1986
vs
>Game that just made their first Souls games
>Founded in 2007, 30 years after FromSoft
Man, I really enjoy most of FromSoft games but the loyalists are incredibly annoying to associate with.
Just stop copy and pasted From games then?
>a random shitposter = all the fromsoft loyalists
Frogposter is a moron imagine my shock.
I don’t think that anon is applying that specific argument from the shitposter to all from loyalists. I think he’s just saying the loyalists are annoying in general and that what that anon said is equivalent to what a tedious loyalist might say.
>2007
They were founded in the late 90's and started making games in 2003.
>Fromsoft 1994
>Neowix 1997
The frick are you on about???
>20 years of Souls
Demons Souls came 14 years ago anon, not anywhere close to 20
A shitty coop game called We Were Here Too on Steam celebrated 6m copies in a single month recently
I find it deeply satisfying that LotF threads can't even be bothered to talk about the actual game anymore
LoP trannies nuke the threads with their seething and shitposting
>instead of talking about the game, I will continue to seethe about another game
>LoP gay immediately defensive
>Lotgay continues to not talk about the game
You should be happy. That's what you want right?
I am happy. You are doing what I want. Hell, I could leave the thread right now and you still wouldn't talk about the game.
This pleases me.
this game is the perfect example of Ganker telling you it's shit while it's actual god tier vidya
Hi devs
No, your game is actually dogshit
The perfect example of Ganker being wrong is Ganker nonstop seething about FromSoft and pathetically trying to convince anyone that Souls games are bad, when anyone with brains can see they are the best games released in one and a half decades.
thank you for proving my point
That doesn't even make any sense, even if you thought LotF was good (lmao) there was nothing in my post you could construe as me having proved your point. ESL moment.
It looks fine and even fun. Wish I had time to play it.
What stat distribution should I go for if I want to try a little bit of everything without gimping myself in the long run? Inferno? Radiance?
what is it with nioh Black folk showing up in every souls/soulslike thread begging people to recognize their existence?
>mixed 6/10 steam reviews
better luck next time
Ironically enough Lies of Penis bombed because they expected too much of it. GoyPass killed it.
LotF was much cheaper to develop.
It's quite shocking how poor Lies of P did. Guess hype really is dead.
It sold more than LotF but it didn't turn a profit because they expected more. They blamed GoyPass. That thing is a death sentence for AA games.
>It sold more than LotF
>LoTF 1 million in 10 days
>Lop 1 million in almost 2 months
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yeah i still dont understand how is it profitable to let people play your games for 10 dollars and i assume most of the money goes to microsoft
>get assblasted with scores
>mention sales
classic, let's not even mention how LoTF is AAA and 1M is pathetic
Scores don't matter much. Especially not steamcel scores which are just poorgay PC cuckolds that can't run the game.
On Metacritic LotF is just 5 points bellow Lies of Penis. So if LotF is trash, so is Lies of Penis.
Sales matter much more. It's the determining factor of the future of the IP.
Well yeah, this doggy
brought it up first. He had to be spayed.
>scores don't matter, but this one does
>expecting logic from asshurt poos
>thirdie reading comprehension
kek
Stay put.
Why are you projecting, circumcision victim?
yeah i'd probably agree with that. dark souls 2 was bad but at least felt like it had a vision. there is something really soulless about dark souls 3. only played through it once and never even touched the dlc
>and never even touched the dlc
If you played 2's DLC then you definitely owe it to yourself to play 3's. Helps with that vision you speak of.
This is what's made me buy it after seeing enough webms. I love Elden Ring's art direction and everything else Souls/From Software does well, but ER's combat left me wanting.
>1 Million Lords Have Fallen
xisters... we did it
billions must slide
>Elden Ring's combat suck ass homosexual, and I have 1.5k hours on it. Mobs are piss easy, and there's nothing fun about having to do a 10+ combo dodge roll just to get one single hit in, unless you're some meta OP build that destroys the boss in 1 or 2 hits. Also, bosses and mobs that hit through walls is cringe shit and fromsoft hasn't fixed this since EVER
wtf i sent that to you in private
Ring's combat suck ass homosexual, and I have 1.5k hours on it. Mobs are piss easy, and there's nothing fun about having to do a 10+ combo dodge roll just to get one single hit in, unless you're some meta OP build that destroys the boss in 1 or 2 hits. Also, bosses and mobs that hit through walls is cringe shit and fromsoft hasn't fixed this since EVER
fearless lampbearers. why is the writting in these soul clones always so cringe
Instead of starting from a theme to explore they just write and write until the game is done.
let me guess in lords of the fallen you are in a ruined kingdom and the king went mad and revived an ancient evil and you the chosen unde... i mean the lampbearer have fix it because you are the only competent warrior around
I dunno yet I'm only 40% downloaded.
Actually a tattooed bald man just gave Mephisto's soulstone to some randos and everyone went crazy.
eh kinda similar, so you fight a bunch of mad people around the kingdom until you start fighting the knights who are also mad, same shit different name, why dont they ever come up with an original setting?
Dark Souls 3 is an awful game
SIRS
THE GAME IS STILL TEDIUS SIRS ROLL OUT ANOTHER PATCH
It's pure Eurojank Souls but I'm glad it did well.
>LoF thread
>LoP being talked about more
I only like Nioh and fromsoftware shovelware. I don't like any soulslike, I don't like western action games
Still cant play it with my radeon 7 without crashing amd fricking my drivers
Why does Ganker hate Souls games? The only pozzed one was the western remake of Demons Souls. Are you just mad that they're popular, and feel like you have to play the contrarian role by choosing the opposite stance by default?
The truth is most people on Ganker haven't bought nor are playing LotF. It's shitposters saving webms of bugs and reposting them over and over and other people who haven't played the game talking shit for no real reason.
They re overused and bring nothing new since bloodborne
what did Bloodborne bring that was new?
Trick weapons, waaay more complex bosses, Chalice Dungeons, the first step From took in direction to a faster paced combat, ditched shields, magic & equip load, off the top of my head.
>waaay more complex bosses
I don't see the problem. The player used the game mechanics correctly to trivialize the fight. Should you not win easily if you execute perfectly?
Complex != difficult.
DS2 has 40 bosses and none have the moveset variety or the "broken limbs" mechanic of Bloodborne
The Black person in picrel alone is more complex than the whole base game of Dark Souls 2
Idk, I didn't play Elden Ring yet
>With that moveset pool
Which is bigger than anything from past From games
>Unable to punish healing
Like it should be with any good player, yes.
>Literally trivialized by circlestrafing
>Defeated entirely by sidestep attacks
Your point? There are videos on YouTube of people beating any boss in Soulsborne SL1 fists only no rolling NG+7.
both Dark Souls 2 and BB bosses are garbage
He didn't post a BB boss. That Black person is harder than any boss. And so is his gay homosexual friend.
So you can admit that but not that Elden Ring innovated combat even more than it? Bloodborne Snoy shitskins need counseling
The combat is the best in the series.
>Mindless sidestep r1 spam
>PVP gun spam
>Best anything
Come the frick on now
Nothing, it only removed options
>Complex
>With that moveset pool
>Unable to punish healing
>Literally trivialized by circlestrafing
>Defeated entirely by sidestep attacks
This must be a joke
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Niohbaby woke up from his nap? Gonna throw a little temper tantrum because FromSoft makes the best games?
>Lampbearers
They're not even trying.
Sekiro>BB>ER>DS>DeS>DS3>DS2
What a shitty taste, you miserable fricktard.
Just bought, played 67 minutes, I quite like it. I'm very surprised at the shit it's been getting. Combat is very weighty, almost ridiculously so but it's enough to still be satisfying as hell to hit enemies. The vistas remind me of old Souls games where you see a structure in the distance and the way there is filled with GAMEPLAY instead of riding Torrent or whatever. The posture system feels halfbaked in that I don't really know why I'd bother with multihit combos since they leave the player seriously open. Dual wielding is fun, perfect blocking for shields or dual wielding is fun. The Bloodborne insight ripoff is actually super fricking cool in that there's almost always another layer of the world on top of you with spooky shit in it. Yes BB does the same thing sorta but it's not as visually distinct as this.
All in all I reckon I'm gonna enjoy it, but it also reminds me to upgrade my PC because holy shit is it running hot playing it.
Pics related, the "insight" at work. Can a more experienced player explain what the frick is up with Umbral vs Axion without spoiling anything? I knew nothing about it going in because literally none of you have mentioned it but they throw it at you fast and I have no context for why another plane of existence exists on top of the Axiom.
tl;dr there isn't a way to discuss it without spoiling things. If you interact with every stigma (memory) you encounter, read item descriptions, and do quests, you'll figure out what it is.
Ty anon.
> Combat is very weighty, almost ridiculously
You must be blind or some shit, shit is like compare Dauntless to MHW
I've never played Dauntless or MHW, but what I mean is some of the swings feeeel like they take way too long for an actual human to swing, like the player character sometimes is swinging through molasses. That's what I mean by ridiculously, in that it's unbelievable, but not enough to be upset about.
>The vistas remind me of old Souls games where you see a structure in the distance
shill, old Souls games had awful vistas between locations
I didn't comment about how good the vista looked, I commented on how you'd see a structure in the distance and in between where you are and the structure there would be gameplay as opposed to open world riding/walking/running. However, I actually enjoy the vistas of Demon's/Dark 1 and II. Like seeing the low poly model of Duke's Archives from way below or some other example.
>The Bloodborne insight ripoff is actually super fricking cool
that's how we know you are a shill.
nobody thinks pulling a lamp to kill the parasite #374729378 is a good gimmick
If the extent of the Bloodborne insight is just to move doors or something a la Metroid Prime 2, then yeah it's not good, but I don't know that yet anon I've only played 67 minutes.
I unironically agree. It always bothered me that Dark Souls 3 didn't feel like it had its own identity in terms of gameplay. It's a bizarre chimera of Bloodborne and Dark Souls, but without Bloodborne's weapon depth or Dark Souls' world design. LOTF(2?) is derivative and deeply flawed, but it's its own game and I respect a lot of the design decisions they made the more I play it and better understand the mechanics. It is incredibly refreshing to play a Soulslike with challenging level design when Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring ruined the pacing of their levels by spamming bonfires and graces fricking everywhere, and the vestige seed system is a clever solution that allows the player to adjust their own difficulty (which has always been a positive aspect of the Souls series). I didn't think another game would give me my favorite part of Demon's Souls back, the fricking level difficulty.
LOTF needs
>weapon animation parity, all weapon animations should have the forward momentum of spears, polearms, etc. which have excellent animations
>weapon moveset parity, heavy attacks need to do more damage on weapons where they don't
>better balance for the four primary stats
>more informative UI design
>better risk:reward for parrying / criticals
>an overhaul to the stance break system
and I think it would be in a really good place. If the post-release support continues at even a fraction of the rate it is now, this has a chance to be another No Man's Sky redemption story, but it isn't even a bad game at the moment.
I thought the game was going to be garbage when I saw the weapon animations in WebMs, but then I actually played it and with a few exceptions it feels a lot better to play than I thought it would. It's a bit more like a hack-and-slash Dark Souls.
>satisfying to hit enemies
The ragdolling when you kill enemies is really fricking good.
>weapon moveset parity, heavy attacks need to do more damage on weapons where they don't
I don't think that'll change because heavy attacks do more posture damage.
It doesn't matter because posture damage is fricking useless. Everything dies before you can stagger it unless you're a radiant build using the pendant. Maybe you can build for posture damage with runes and a ring (is there even a ring for it?) but it just feels fricking awful to engage with.
That said, I will say that ranged combat is really fun and reward, which isn't something I thought I'd ever say about a Soulslike. So they didn't frick all the basic stuff up. Bows, crossbows, and thrown weapons are all fricking great and there's some really cool bonuses for each.
You're also suppose to be parrying to deplete it they literally straight up copied Lies of P which copied Sekiro however I'd wager most players dodge roll everything since its far easier.
it's more efficient to use heavy attacks for posture breaking.
>City Interactive made a good game
what kind of doomed timeline is this?!
Don't worry, they didn't.
>O MY SCIENCE I LOVE LORDS OF THE ONIONS
I genuinely enjoy this game while everyone is seething ;(
Same. I don't know why it's getting shit on so hard outside of the animations and technical issues.