Lost World arc incoming

You can go to the room yourself and look at it, it's just part of the machine. The back part of it is even illuminated by the room. You're looking for something that isn't there.

here it is with motion, is a giant sphere suspended in midair

>you travel down an elevator which is in fact a part of the building
Meaning it is not in fact the building in front, but below that building on a lower level as the game says.
>There’s no reason to say what’s BENEATH this place if it were simply referring to the time machine
Except for the fact that the time machine is quite literally below that building and requires an elevator ride down to reach.

Anon, come on, there's denial and there's just being stupid. You have no reason to argue about this when the game outright says its beneath the Zero Lab.

The fact that youre trying to redefine what "below" means just to say that the time machine doesn't exist below the Zero Lab, something the game says, is genuinely worrying.

>muh imagination
Man, shut up already

And I’m saying you’re an obsessed moron. Shut the frick up and stop replying to me.

>is mad
I already know you are

I think you should use your imagination powers to become a tad bit smarter, Anon

Bro, the time machine is fricking huge. It wouldn't fit in that dinky ass room.
Have you played the game?

The time machine is in the roof, if we're going below area zero why would we be going in the time machine?

>if we're going below area zero why would we be going in the time machine?
Area Zero doesn't have a height limit and the time machine is the new lowest point, lower than the natural lowest point even Heath went to.

Allegedly the professor is dead, what are you on

The AI stated with certainty that only pokeballs could travel through the machine, so they would have had to test the machine in some fashion. Whether that be people, pokemon, tera crystals, or whatever they attempted to send through it, they came to the conclusion they weren't able to recall what they sent.

>and a robot who lies to you until the last second
Anon, they've lied once and it was a lie of omission.

No, it casts doubt on it being a time machine. If it WAS time machine, we wouldn’t be revisiting it like this, and it wouldn’t leave us hanging in the first place.
We’ve already seen time travel in this series, and it’s had none of the weird limitations that this has.

You’re doing the same thing, Anon

Anon, if it were a time machine we would’ve seen the results of the AI’s time travel, we would’ve seen the process of catching Pokémon. They left it vague for a reason.
Also your point on arceus is dumb because we see first hand the the player character getting dumped into the past.
I think you’re trolling at this point.

>We never see the present in PLA and that's the point you're trying to make.
The main character is wearing modern clothes and has a smartphone, saying they're from anywhere but modern times feels like a cope, and that's ignoring the datamined room found in the game.

>In SV, it's the paradox pokemon and the testing the professor had done on Koraidon and Miraidon.
And that there are paradoxes in the book.

>the first and only example being why there were no Pokemon in Area Zero after Heath's expedition.
That's not a plot hole, the main function of the time machine is to send pokeballs, catch pokemon and pull them back to the present. There's literally an explanation in game.
I'm surprised you haven't heard that as a response yet.

>weird ayylmaos found all over the place
>game is very up front about the fact that they're ayylmaos that came from a tear in space
>people from other universes are like here are our cool ayylmao pokemon
>you yourself get to travel through space to get more ayylmaos
>there's no question or debate about what UBs are or where they're from
By this logic you should just believe it's time travel since there's more concrete evidence for it than UBs especially if you're looking at it from just the perspective of SM where the URS didn't exist.
>themed around ancient creatures and futuristic androids
>final story is about their origins from the past and future
>mechanics of the time machine are laid out complete with restrictions on travel for humans.
>professor confirms genetic and behavioral relations to pokemon in the modern day
>paradox pokemon appear 200 years in the past without a time machine in the past which could only be achieved with the time machine in the present.

>you're saying it NEEDS to be time travel and no other possible explanation despite the fact that there's very clearly more to the story,
There's more but the debate about it being time travel is over. That chunk of the story no longer matters and the time machine is just a tool to show us more about 200 years ago.
Changing the origins of the paradoxes would be a huge retcon which would require rewriting major plot elements.

>Revealing new information isn’t retconning anything, friendo
You wouldn't be revealing new information, you'd be changing existing information.
Like how Spiderman used to be the result of an irradiated spider bite being 100% science related but now he's actually this super special mystical spider totem and used to have a magical compulsion to frick a spider girl who was another mystical spider totem.

Suddenly you've removed the reason, logic and mechanics and just turned it into "lol, magic".
If it were just adding details it would be there to explain something that wasn't explained like the potara in Dragonball. We were never given an explanation for Vegito defusing until super.

How did a FUTURE Pokémon end up in heaths time, if that’s the case?
Why would Turo be sending poke balls to the past if he thought they were from the future?

>How did a FUTURE Pokémon end up in heaths time, if that’s the case?
Because it's a two way time machine. It has to be if it can send pokeballs and retrieve them.

>By this logic you should just believe it's time travel since there's more concrete evidence for it than UBs
You literally go to the worlds the UBs are from to catch them, what the frick are you even saying right here.

>You literally go to the worlds the UBs are from to catch them,
>especially if you're looking at it from just the perspective of SM where the URS didn't exist.
On that note did you know that USM actually retconned Ultra Space?
In SM it was said that the Ultra Deep Sea WAS Ultra Space and that all the UBs come from one location, in USM it was retconned into a world exclusively for Nihilego.
It's most likely the reason why GF put so much more detail into time travel.

Anon, the game is saying they're from the past/future and have genetic data as fairly concrete evidence. To say that these aren't from the past and future would be a large change to the existing information.
Also it would mean that the AI wasn't written out of the story by being trapped in the distant past/future.

That's not how the dream world works. It doesn't manifest fake pokemon, they're all living in the entree forest and your pokemon becomes friends with it IN the dream.

How did a FUTURE Pokémon end up in heaths time, if that’s the case?
Why would Turo be sending poke balls to the past if he thought they were from the future?

Don't expect the timetravelgay to be able to read

Classic circular argument Anon, never change.
>We don't. We never see the present in PLA and that's the point you're trying to make. You're saying that it isn't time travel because we can't see both points.
This confirms your trolling

Anon has been doing the same thing, so why can’t I?

That's not true anon. He has his imagination.

>AI says time travel
>paradoxes are past and future themed
>AI says Raidon have genetic similarities
>only logical reason for paradoxes to 200 years in the past is time travel
>Arven's blatant foreshadowing
What do you have that's supported by the game?

Everything not being as it seems, since the game runs that in your face
>but that means heath wasn’t lying
Yeah, he wasn’t lying.

But the game is upfront about it, like heath supposedly being a liar
I don’t think you know how to read, unfortunately

Which means that it’s not a time machine

Stop getting upset, stinky

>they don't match up at all with realistic portrayals of past/future Pokemon.
What does this even mean? They ARE the realistic portrayal of past/future pokemon because this is the very first time we've had genuine ancient pokemon derived from existing ones.
What on earth are you even talking about?

>but he's right in that theyre nothing like the existing fossilmons which are all based around the existing life forms at the time
They're based off of two things at most dude, with the exception of the gen 8 fossils which are meant to be hodgepodge monsters. That doesn't mean that they were the only life forms running about at the time. I mean, look at relicanth, canonically a pokemon that hasn't changed in millions of years like a real coelacanth.

>What does this even mean?
They're not past/future Pokemon.
>They ARE the realistic portrayal of past/future pokemon because this is the very first time we've had genuine ancient pokemon derived from existing ones.
Wrong. The descriptions match up with Occulture's perception of "ancient/future" Pokemon more than what we know of Heath's record. All of the dex entries point this out, and the designs themselves are all "Pokemon but with over-characteristically primal/robotic elements thrown in"
You'd have to be a complete idiot to believe these Pokes are actually from the time periods the AI believes them to be when shit like Primal Groudon exists. Iron Thorns is LITERALLY Mecha Tyranitar from Pokestar Studios which gets referenced in Gen 9.

>The descriptions match up with Occulture's perception of "ancient/future" Pokemon than what we know of Heath's record.
Anon, the physical descriptions are the same, Occulture used the descriptions from the book and then made up stories.
Didn't you look at them?
Basically when Occulture says
>iron hand's has fists that move independent of the body
That was in the book
But when it says
>Iron hands was a human
That's fake.

No offense but that's the most moronic shit I've ever heard in my life.
You're saying that just because some pokemon have been seen before that they all have to follow the same rules when there wasn't any consistency beyond being rock types and even that ended in gen 8.
That and you're treating the past as a location, when it's a massive span of time. I mean, we don't even know what era the past paradoxes even come from and the fossils already have massive gaps between them. Kabuto is from 300 million years ago while Lilleep is 100 million for example.

Now I can see why lore threads have gone to shit if this is why people don't listen to the game.

Shut the frick up anon.
The only information in Occulture that matters is the description of the paradoxes. Everything else is made up.

They stopped doing typical fossils in gen 6. Gen 7 had no new ones, gen 8 had abominations, and now gen 9 has ancient/future pokemon. That pattern has been dead for 3 generations.

Terracosta and Kabutops aren't dinosaurs, anon. Did you know that all pokemon are based on something from real life?

Your point doesn't make sense though, anon. Ancient/Future pokemon are more akin to Ultra Beasts than fossil mons. We've not had traditional fossilmons since gen 6. You're citing patterns that are not applicable.

Except their base stages are all creatures found in the real-life fossil record. Sure, they pokémonify the evolutions, but Kabuto is a horseshoe crab (still extant, as it happens but first emerged 445m years ago), Archen is an Archaeopteryx, Cranidos is a Pachycephalosaurus but they turned Suicune into a Deinonychus or Utahraptor and Raikou into a Brachiosaurus (instead of making either of thosee as a wholly-new fossilmon).

what are the real world equivalents for brute bonnet or scream tail or sandy shocks or roaring moon

love me some timegay moronation

I gotta applaud you on your determination to power through getting shit on left and right. You know people will respond to you and shut you down, but you just keep attacking at different angles and praying something will stick. Psychopaths are usually successful in life, but unfortunately you spend that energy shitposting on /vp/ instead.

>Anon, the physical descriptions are the same
They're not. The professor was a fan of Occulture and kept a fraction of the issues you can read in-game in their lab.
NOTHING in Heath's record implies anything about the time period these pokes are from. That all comes from Occulture. Atlantis is the only explanation that makes sense, and imagination is the gateway to that.

>Atlantis is the only explanation that makes sense, and imagination is the gateway to that.
Don't steal our theory for your imagination propaganda. It wasn't too long ago that you homosexuals were saying that Heath imagined any kind of ancient civilization things like the markings and plate.
Plus it makes more sense with time travel between the advanced technology like the AI and the whole memory recall thing from the anime.

Okay you're getting your wires crossed so hard that I'm surprised you can even make sense of yourself.
>The professor was a fan of Occulture and kept a fraction of the issues you can read in-game in their lab.
Okay for starters we have no idea if this is even true because Arven lived there on his own for years and the Donphan one references the Donphan in Asado Desert which is clearly after the professor spent all of their time down there.
>NOTHING in Heath's record implies anything about the time period these pokes are from.
NO ONE said anything about Heath mentioning the time period. In fact, it's that detail that made people think that they were being manipulated from the start and lo and behold teal mask has a character undergo a massive emotional shift and a change of goals just like the professor.
>That all comes from Occulture.
For a handful of Scarlet ones, for the Violet ones it's all over the place so Occulture doesn't explain why Turo needed a time machine.
>Atlantis is the only explanation that makes sense, and imagination is the gateway to that.
Atlantis and imagination literally cannot be reconciled. There's no ties there because the only one was the AI and you people think the professor wished it up instead of it being built.

And finally literally no one here said that the lore in Occulture, beyond the descriptions which COME FROM THE BOOK WHICH EVERY OCCULTURE ENTRY MENTIONS, matter. The anon you replied to even said that there's true information and false information mixed in and you're sitting there acting like he said the whole thing was true while throwing in more strawman on top.

>Anon, if it were a time machine we would’ve seen the results of the AI’s time travel
NTA but we'll never see both points because one went to the future and one went to the past and their story is over as it is, they don't matter anymore.

Says the person who constantly seethes about "timeschizo"

why would the professor send anything back anywhere?

So it’s your headcanon then, gotcha

heath wrote about miraidon in the scarlet book, in the game where Sada only brought past paradoxes to the present and where you’re saying Sada sent them back into the past. yet Heath claimed to have seen miraidon, a pokemon not supposed to exist especially in Scarlet

briar has both the markings of miraidon and koraidon on her jacket meaning her family and her ancestry knew about both raidons

Small problem. Violet's the canon book, so Sada didn't do anything. Scarlet's been confirmed to be the alt universe mirror to the canon story.

Diana found Lucius' luggage when she was a child, which included his journal, Terapogos, and possibly the violet book. She also has equipment that he wore on top of other documents. Since she gave the amulet to Liko, the following have occurred:
>Terapogos woke up
>Rayquaza woke up
>Terapogos showing Volteccers its memories
>Rayquaza waking up the other Pokemon belonging to Lucius
>Terapogos knows Lucius and wants to return to Rakua immediately
>Lucius is most likely related to Liko in some way
Diana not being able to find Rakua does not mean it isn't real, it means its existence was questionable.

Many anons think that the purple book on the shelf is supposed to be the violet book, which would make violet the cannon game. A similar book also appears in the anime. But both don't have the Miraidon on it though, so I personally don't believe it. It's a fun fan theory though

>The pokémon world is an analogy to ours
Anon, the pokemon world is far more advanced than our own.

>Except Legends has a bloke with a camera exactly like a 1900's camera
Do we even see his camera?

Anon, that's more akin to a 19th century camera not a 20th century camera.

Meant for

Anon, that's more akin to a 19th century camera not a 20th century camera.

A bookshelf in Cogita's room in Legends, set 100 years after Heath's expedition, roughly with the Violet book on display (that was GF's new game tease we all fricking missed during Legends).
Seeing as the anime is displaying the Violet book and Game Freak themselves teased the Violet book in a canon game, set earlier in the timeline to the newest Generation, the only conclusion is that Violet is the canon version (as if there was ever any doubt previously - men generally supersede women in importance, when a male and female show up as Pokémon Professor. The Violet book popping up in the prime timeline before the concept is even introduced is kinda hard to ignore).

It's set around 100 years in the past from DP (I saw 1920's bandied around, likely because of shit like human tech and trends portrayed in-game).
There's not that great of a time disparity between DP and SV. SM happened 10 years after RGBY, thus DP happened 7 years before SM and SV isn't that much later chronologically than SM (5 years at most). And SV s around 200 years since Heath published his book. Hence why I said roughly. Frick off spastic, Heath's book WAS said to cause a stir - Game Freak even established it travelled as far as PokéJapan in about 100 years. Sorry dinosaurmommy isn't real.

When you meet Red and Blue in the Battle Tree, they're around 20 years old. And Red started as a 10 year old trainer at the start of RGBY (never mind it was the series 20th anniversary in SM's release year). Ergo, SM occurs 10 years after RGBY. the timeline isn't as long as people think. Hazards of making a kids series, with plenty of remakes for the newer generations. Timeline gets fricky in people's heads.

And the consensus is wrong, the photog studio has a camera set-up like one of these fricking things. They didn't show up until humans had gotten a FRICKLOAD better at cameras. Never mind in-game, you don't need to stand still for 5 fricking minutes to set the image.

It doesn't have Miraidon on it, because it was a hint to the next games, akin to the strange souvenir. They wanted to make it recognisable, not break NDA to slap an image of an upcoming pokémon they knew wasn't included in that game to alert people what was coming an ruin the surprise reveal.
And logically, it makees more sense for a 100 yo copy to be plain-bound and ones in the modern having more fancy bindings, because mass-production of imaged copies became cheaper as humans advanced their processes.
The pokémon world is an analogy to ours - thus shit like printing and photography were at the same level of real-world human development at a similar point in that universee's history.

>male professor, like all Japanese-region games, the french suck-off and the two burger versions (eventually in one case, from the get-go in another)
>bikemon is an actual fricking bike, instead of a walking puppy
>hinted at in the game DIRECTLY preceding it (which shared similar themes)
And then the kicker - Scarlet leaked before launch, just like Moon, Ultra Moon and Shield. The canon games don't leak early.

God you guys can't be this moronic
It doesn't even look the same

>The only paradox mentioned anywhere is in the Pokedex.
Except for the fact that Arven directly points out that the professor became obsessed with bringing the Past/Future to the present because of the excerpt where Heath encounters a Paradox Donphan in his expeditions, literally centuries prior to the professor building and activating the time machine?

Then if it's a time machine, how did Heath see the Paradox Pokemon? How does he know what a Korai/Miraidon is? Why was the crater empty when people went in after him? People are arguing about the story if we ONLY go off the story then time travel makes no sense. There'd be no debates if the game didn't leave holes everywhere only headcanon can answer no matter what you believe in.
The same game that says it's time travel also casts doubt on it right after the plot is resolved, the fact is if you think for all of 3 seconds, time travel doesn't add up with the information we're given in the story.

>Then if it's a time machine, how did Heath see the Paradox Pokemon
With a time machine.
Specifically the one in the present.
The one that can send things through time.
Because it's a time machine.

>People are arguing about the story if we ONLY go off the story then time travel makes no sense
Oh no one ever said that, you can reconcile time travel, ancient civilisations and every other theory with the main game with no plot holes or retcons.
You just can't do it with imagination which requires a ton of leaps in logic.

>The same game that says it's time travel also casts doubt on it right after the plot is resolved
You're the same anon who always says that in these threads aren't you. You know you never actually tell people what casts doubt on it right

Yes because that's the upcoming story.
The treasure of Area Zero's final story is all about Heath's expedition, hence Arven foreshadowing a time loop at the end and the journal art at the end of the trailer.

>How do you know it’s the upcoming story
Because it hasn't happened yet. We have documentation of what the professor was doing in the area zero journals, if they were the ones who sent anything back it would be there.
>This and the way you interpret Arven is your headcanon
It's called basic reading comprehension and inference. Well, it's basic to me clearly such concepts either don't exist in your language or are simply too advanced for you.

>It’s actually called forcing your own interpretations
It's hardly forcing an interpretation when it's right there as plain as day.
>and calling everyone else’s wrong.
No, just you. You're the only one who can't put two and two together.

You samegayging constantly /= "not the only person", unless you're legitimately schizophrenic and think each personality that posts to be a separate human individual.

And there was 25 of them this morning before burgerland woke up and the imagination autistic woke up.
And you won't, you can't leave us alone without screeching and shitting up these threads, because we're not fawning over your fricktarded reading of a kiddy game plot. I look forward to replaying to you later as you ape out again.

>but if someone else does it
That's the problem, you haven't once done it. Inference is using what you have to come to a reasonable conclusion that takes all evidence into account.
Saying
>I don't get this so Heath lied
Is headcanon with no evidence created purely to satiate your own bias.

In my opinion the professor doesn't really care about Heath all too much, the professor only cares about the book and the Pokemon in the book. They don't care about proving Heath right like Briar does, they just want their Pokemon.
> if it is a time machine, they're not the ones who sent the pokemon there
I can agree with this, the character with the motivation is Briar, but then again then time machine is seemingly shut down and Briar would need to somehow nab your Raidon from you for it to work, I think this line of thinking creates more issues than it solves the existing plot holes which is why I doubt it's going to happen.

There are still plot holes though, if the events of the book are due to Briar's meddling, how does that explain Heath's encounter with Terapagos? How does she get your Raidon? How do things like Walking Wake and Iron Leaves exist if they're based off the imagined sketches? Is Briar okay with letting a donphan kill a dude? Etc.

I'd also say Brair forcing the events of the book to happen still makes Heath a fraud, but a propped up fraud, which isn't really her goal.

>if the events of the book are due to Briar's meddling
They're not. The events of the book happened and are set. Briar's been trying to prove everything in the book was true and her ancestor wasn't a psycho. That's partially why we're going back to AZ - to help her get the proof to prove him correct (the world won't listen to 4 schoolkids trying to tell the truth - even if two are Champion-level trainers, ones the son of the professor who invented the Tera Orb and one's a computer savant). Briar's not the bad guy in DLC2.

Diana found Lucius' luggage when she was a child, which included his journal, Terapogos, and possibly the violet book. She also has equipment that he wore on top of other documents. Since she gave the amulet to Liko, the following have occurred:
>Terapogos woke up
>Rayquaza woke up
>Terapogos showing Volteccers its memories
>Rayquaza waking up the other Pokemon belonging to Lucius
>Terapogos knows Lucius and wants to return to Rakua immediately
>Lucius is most likely related to Liko in some way
Diana not being able to find Rakua does not mean it isn't real, it means its existence was questionable.

Whales found by sailors had scars on their body from giant squids for hundreds of years. The first giant squids were not discovered until 2004, even though we knew for a fact they existed. I understand you're a zoomer and 2004 was before you were born, but maybe if you're lucky there will be discoveries made in your lifetime that confirms things we previously believed were real but couldn't prove yet.

MEGA moron BLINDBRO SPOTTED PLEASE KNEEL TO ME MEGA moron AHAHAHHAHA

>D-D-D-D-DOESNT COUNT AIEE PABLO HELP MEE I CANT READ ENGLISH AIEEE
L M A O

The direct announcing the game isn't marketing.

How is this marketing any different from what the game itself initially tells you about Kitakami folklore?

Cool, why are they hiding the new paradoxes dex entries?
They didn't hide that the galarian birds were related to the kanto birds back in swsh so why know?

>with how desperately GameFreak is trying to keep the mystery alive until DLC2
That's why just about everything now is focused on Terapagos and not the paradoxes. The only thing currently focusing on them is the newest TCG set which always works on a lag.
The anime didn't even bother doing a rehash of the main plot like they usually do and just jumped straight into Terapagos months before the release date for the actual dlc.

>Imagination does talk about Terapagos though
Not really. Comes up occasionally but never as a serious point of discussion while they focus predominantly on the paradox pokemon being fake and Heath lying despite the game saying otherwise.

You're just lying

Oh I know, that's why I'm saying it never comes up as a serious point of discussion.
They just say it brings thoughts to reality and leave it at that.
Any time you try and go deeper into it they shy away from discussion and fall back on their usual shitposting about Heath lying and the paradoxes being imagined by the professor or how the time machine is a 3d pokemon printer or some kind of imagination permanence machine.

Actual discussion about Terapagos in relation to imagination is rare. The most we've had recently is the dream catcher thing and that begins and ends at a physical resemblance and nothing more.

>people discuss Terapagos and it's wishing powers in a thread
>Timetravelgay comes into the thread to bait people
>The discussion has been derailed into talking about the fake time travel story
There was actually a great thread yesterday about the nature of the paradise and how it relates to the dream world feature in BW.
I remember you absolutely seething in that thread when nobody took your bait.

>what you just said made no sense
It makes perfect sense, you're reading it incorrect. I never said
>They don't talk about terapagos they just talk about it's power and how it brings heath or the professor's imagination to reality
I said
>they're not talking about Terapagos or how it functions, they're just saying it is how they say it is with out any elaboration.
It's how you get 500 different variations on the idea while every other theory sticks to one thing based on actual evidence.

Honestly, I expected more from someone who's at least trying to hold himself more highly than the rest of them.

I hope you understand now that when people say there's a time schizo, they aren't making stuff up, even when you try to talk rationally to him he just kinda twists whatever you're saying into something else entirely.

>So they are talking about it then. I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's kind of obvious you're just shitposting at this point
The irony is that you're now the perfect example of my point. Because you lack the evidence for your stance, while mine continues to pile up as they post, you're refusing to discuss the matter at hand much like they refuse to discuss Terapagos in any detail beyond
>I said it is so I'm right

But I'm not surprised in the slightest. This is /vp/ after all.

The thread was going great until one person replied to him and he brought in his sock puppets.
The answer is to just ignore completely.

why would it be active, no one in the story is aware there's a wish granter

>Because if it's passive then it's definitely not imagination since everything would be brought to life not just one person's dreams and desires.
Source? The only person we know that's harnessed Tera energy to do this is the professor, and they succeeded. They were also a fan of Occulture and there are three missing issues we don't see in the game that correlate to the three new Paradox mons the DLC is bringing. Every other instance of tera energy we've seen has been directly related to other cases like Pokemon willing themselves into other types or powering AI-copy assistants.
>But if its active they have to be aware of it which they aren't.
We also know the professor to be directly aware of Terapagos since it was mentioned in the lab notes.
>It's a major hole in the theory and it's avoided like the plague.
Do we see Terapagos play an active role yet? What about Dokutaro? Right, we don't. You seem more upset people aren't making baseless assumptions to prove their "theory" right like timetravel copers have to in addition to ignoring everything in the game.

>Why would it work like that?
Anon, a passive trait means it's always active and there's no control over it.
An active trait means it can be turned on and off and controlled.
Think about it for five minutes and you'll understand.

>when we've seen that the wishes are only granted to people with extremely strong and extremely selfish desires like Kieran
I know examples are hard to come by but Kieran?
You picked the one guy in the story that had all of his wishes literally shattered right in front of him?

>If they did they'd be able to decide on if it's passive or active.
And we'll never know until it's revealed. The fact is that the game leaves more implication that it's not time travel and morons who either didn't play the game or have ORAS Youtuber-tier reading comprehension think it can't be anything but time travel when all internal facets point to it being Atlantis.
It's not even worth replying to the shitposter that gets upset everytime someone doesn't believe their narrative. The way he composes his posts is the exact same as that moron that insists ORAS has some major contradiction with XY's mega lore before spouting off about how some games are either "in the mega universe" or not when that claim doesn't even make any sense.

The photos were faked, there was noting in the crater. The professor is who actually designed the paradox pokemon, this explains why there are a number of difference between the photos and real donphans, and why the beast amalgam got split into 2 (presumably 3) different pokemon

Heath only mentions metallic pokemon, the LED lights were added by Turo.

There's nothing about iron treads' sketch that is inconceivable for someone 200 years ago to dream up, it looks like something related to Aggron or something along those lines, pic related looks like any old steel type Pokemon. It's only when it gets dreamed up by Turo that the details not present or easily readable in the photo (so the legs and eyes) get filled in with modern things like a screen for the eyes and compartments for the legs to tuck into.

W...what the frick does this have to do with anything I said.

You got me anon I am in fact utterly perplexed by what the frick youre talking about

>those legs
The dlc better explain why the drawings are inaccurate.