Lots of RPG settings have wizards as a standard feature, but what about witches? Are they just female wizards in your setting, naturalist occultists, or something different?
Lots of RPG settings have wizards as a standard feature, but what about witches?
Why is she green?
envy
Lot of jealousy for a hired witch
"Beware, my lord, of jealousy; it is the green-eyed monster which doth mock the meat it feeds on.”
Level 1
Because her mother had an affair with a travelling salesman who gave her mother a bottle of green elixir to drink before he impregnated her mother.
Level 2
Because green skin looked good in Technicolor, just like Ruby Slippers looked better for the silver screen than silver slippers, and Wicked copied the The Wizard of Oz movie.
Level 3
There is no level three.
I hate to even mention it because then you're going to remember reading about it but you're maybe going forget that it's pulled out of someone's arse without a shred of evidence, so just briefly, it's NOT because tortured women accused of being witches got gangrene.
The green skinned witch was made up for the The Wizard of Oz movie. It looked good on screen and it made the character seem even more evil by not being normal human colour. Then again, some people think green skin made Star Trek's Orions seem more sexy by being exotic and otherworldly.
Let’s not be racist now.
No, let's.
>WHY IS SHE GREEN! WHY IS SHE GREEN! WHY IS SHE GREEN! WHY IS SHE GREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She liked the eggs and ham far, far too much.
Because Hollywood is apologetically racist. They take anything that is considered "evil" or bad behavior, and identify such traits as being Black. Then they have to re-write the new stories, so said inhuman evil entities were just misunderstood and oppressed.
It gets old after a while
I know of a word that also has n, g, e and r
"ranger"
Holy shit, what an ugly witch. Seriously, is she cursed or something?
Witches are supposed to be ugly hags so it fits.
yeah but they're supposed to have long hooked nose with a big wart on it., not a gorilla's nose.
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Is the youtube content farmer in the thread with us right now?
My post (
) didn't say anything about content farmers, I just challenged OP on his inability to contribute to his own topic.
Learn how to read.
I don't care to tell you anything, when you refuse to include anything contributing to your own topic in your opening.
>give groid green skin
>suddenly features look indian
depends on which setting, depends on what game, depends on what group i am running it for.
Frick you for shitting up this board with your shitty race bait threads OP.
Is Wicked coming out or something? They announced it ages ago, I figured it was in Development Hell.
I grew up with Palladium.
There witches are a default class but only allowed with GM permission.
A witch, whether they be male or female, is a person who is so desperate for power that a dark god or eldritch horror contacts them and offers power in exchange for a deal.
This usually only lasts 1 or 2 years, and the deal can range from spreading the God's name to making sacrifices, but if the person proves a useful servant and renews the deal with s bigger sacrifice on their part they may get a shard of their dark lord put inside of them effectively making them a highly super powered being but also allowing their Lord to override their free will should they act out of line.
translation: witch and warlock are synonymous
Only because D&D warlock became that.
Palladium Warlocks are people born under the sign of an elemental lord and as such can summon the relevant element in the form of spell-like abilities, can summon elementals who think of the warlock as a little brother or sister, and have special skills/aptitudes due to their association with the elemental plane.
Are you talking about Palladium Fantasy, anon? That's a C&D right there.
>Google has no matches
Huh?
Don't search the thumbnail, anon, search the picture.
I did
At first I thought it was an Wizard of Oz remake, but the 2023 Wizard of Oz reboot (which bombed) with the black cast didn't look like this. A little more digging shows that it's a remake of the 1995 Wicked movie (where the Wicked Witch is actually the good one) but with a black woman playing as the Wicked Witch and using AI to paint the woman green instead of using makeup. It's been delayed for years and is supposed to come out in November this year, if it's not delayed again.
I'm actually surprised at how many Oz reboots/remakes there have been in the past few years. Like why.
Wicked is a terrible story, and I hate 'sympathy for the devil' stories which retcon in bullshit excuses for total monsters to be vicious murderers. This crap got us The Last Ringbearer, Maleficent, and Cruella, and it's always fricking slop. Modern writers cannot write a tragic descent into evil without making excuses for it.
>Modern writers cannot write a tragic descent into evil without making excuses for it.
Frozen pulled it of. Kinda.
Frozen sucks and is overrated. It only got popular because of the song and YT having cripples/mentally handicapped people singing it.
Disney sucks and is overrated. It only got popular because parents wanted to buy animated films as a way to keep their moronic children still.
internet loves troubled siblings that ultimatelly have each other's back no matter what
>I'm actually surprised at how many Oz reboots/remakes there have been in the past few years. Like why.
I mean just look at how many reboots and remakes are just happening in general
Disney are notorious for it now, but also another willy wonka reboots. A Godzilla remake.
Movies are just out if good ideas
>Movies are just out if good ideas
in a shit economy that's actually the best its ever been because of Bidenomics, industry has become risk-averse, and some egghead has calculated that remakes will make more from nostalgiabux than a risky new IP.
>the last really good movies I saw in theaters were the Top Gun reboot and John Wick 4
Kinda grim tbh.
Although the things I liked about those movies really aren't tied to their IPs. I just want to watch well directed action in a film with some style. Modern films are bland as hell, even the animated ones.
Godzilla was good THOUGHbeit.
The new Willy Wonka movie is a prequel, though.
witches in my setting know how to use geas, allowing them to create or destroy the fates of others. aside from that, theyre just standard magic users (spellcasting, astral projection, shamanism, etc.)
Yeah there are witches in my setting, and of course they're all all female. The Devil ain't trading sorcerous power and apothecary knowledge for some man-ass, he's many things but not gay.
I do have witches in my setting and they're not just wizards, but I'm not going to discuss it because you either posted a Black person or AIslop.
It's the new remake of wizard of oz but the wicket witch is a proud womyn of color
>new
Wasn't she always green?
Yes, but this remake of Wicked (the play, not the Wizard of Oz story) is new.
I see. I get they keep making new stuff and recycling the old stuff with new twists to stay in business, but I can't keep up with all the details, priorities are elsewhere.
Is that why she's afraid of water?
Shadow of the Demon Lord has a literal Witch class, gets a flying broom and everything. In both mine and my friend's campaigns that use the system we go all out on the 'cackling green witch' archetype, generally deriving them more from hags.
>Wizard: trash term that doesn't even exist in my games, both in-setting and in the mechanics
>Witch: a magic user with a strong command over fire, can use localized teleportation, and has a strong grasp of brewing potions and poisons; male witches are known as hermits
>male witches are known as hermits
So what do they call regular mundane hermits?
There are no mundane hermits.
The world is filled with monsters who use magic, undead hordes with spectral power, and draconic invaders whose rage fuels their strength.
Plus, magic comes to literally anyone borne of the mortal plane, as innately as the act of breathing, so it only makes sense to have at least one or two magical abilities while living in such a world.
in my setting, witcges are kind of a cross between a druid and a warlock. basically they are nature focused magic uses that derive their magic from patronage/dedication/worship of a nature-related spirit or god.
I just can't get over the fact that even with all that green makeup on she still looks like a ni..
Never mind.
I like Palladium Fantasy and in there Witches are not really a player class but more of a boss NPC defined enough to be a player class.
>Make a pact with a demon
>Pact can vary in its severity
>All Witches have some degree of supernatural strength and spell casting but it breaks down to three types:
>Mostly physical ability. Strength and endurance is transmitted from their master and does not change their appearance at all. These ones can rip plate armor apart and shrug off longbows.
>Spell power. These ones have tons of spells and don't run out of energy casting them. Their demon is using them as a funnel for these spells. In fact, the witch herself doesn't even know how to cast these spells, it's all beamed in from the demon even the knowledge of it.
>Both strength and spells. Getting both is reserved for witches who make major long term pacts with strong demons. Things like promising to kill a king and ruin a land or dozens of innocent souls.
She looks more like a frogperson
I've always been fond of anime witches which are just women of whatever ages that make potions and shit without a demonic patron or any fricked up magic. Not because of any weeb bias but because it seems a lot closer to real life "witches" who were just herbalists with pagan beliefs that got accused of witchcraft. So I choose to have those as well as actual witches with demonic patrons that eat babies. Along with the magic herbalist women being mistaken for baby eaters.
Witchcraft is just one of many traditions of folk magic. They're all the same, really, but none of them will ever admit it.
Between this and Maleficent, I don't understand the current trend of taking a female villain from an old/nostalgic property and rewriting the story so she's actually the misunderstood hero. Why? To what end? Is it some kind of protest against the old order? A "frick you patriarchy, we're going to shit over what you created and make it better"?
It makes no sense.
Pretty, much. The message is that "women can do no evil" and if they seem to do evil, there needs to be an explanation how it's not their fault.
Post-modernism. Rather than make a new thing, take an old thing, rewrite it with some of the roles reversed, and call it a day.
Would you guys let a witch princess carry you?
>new controversial thing gets announced
>homosexuals from all over the internet rush over to /tg/ to make shitty tangentially related threads
I wish you'd just have a nice day like you keep thinking about doing instead of wasting your life doing gay shit like this, OP.
Witches are monsters, usually shape shifted into elegant or even naked women. They could be vampires, or werewolfs, or bugbears, but a witch is a shapeshifted monster spellcaster.
I like to go for a "mother nature, father time" theme for my witch and wizard cultures; but ultimately it is a cultural difference and not two different types of magic.
Any person who lost twice
Once by being born a woman
And twice since she had the gift but wasn't introduced into the hermetic magic.