>low quality funny maymay game is more esteemed and makes more money than a quality game with thought and effort put into it
What are some examples of this?
I know stuff like Among Us beat a unique game like Fall Guys despite just being a low quality space mafia. I know Fall Guys had bugs but even then Among Us just won out. Stuff like Pokemon sells despite being low quality but then again it's based an an amazing concept and has nostalgia behind it.
Soul>Soulless.
This is literally you
You mean there aren't objective standards of what is considered good?
i'll give you a pity reply for the effort, but your comparison is completely off
nta but I get what he means, I'm sure we all know someone who fricking loves Boss Baby or Minions or something but hates the Godfather movies because "the audio mixing is subpar" or something ridiculous and picky. lots of people love to shit on legitimately impressive works of art to seem elitist and then go home and watch Seinfeld.
>hates Seinfeld
you'll understand it when you're older
I'm sure we all know someone who fricking loves Boss Baby or Minions
Are you literally 10
Weasel just plagiarized.
So are you trying to make this a thing or something? Are you trying to be the I Am Weasel anon?
Baboon: collaborative effort into producing something wholly original in a new medium
Weasel: censored remake of a classic in a shitty platform that can't support it.
It's like you want to be called a loser
He's right. Even David is supposed to convey feeling and instead he made him majestic, which misses the whole point of standing up to Goliath.
Also if you are making something realistic, it will be under the scrutiny of realism.
>Baboon: Creates something simple and classic that anyone who appreciates the original can enjoy
>Weasel: Creates a figure that is known by the public as being "refined" while proceeding to censor it and being out of topic
Despite the time period, Weasel dressing up like a troon is just an icing on the cake on this irony.
She looks like she fricks human men
uh anon, weasel is a guy
They hated him because he told the truth.
t. Samegay
samegay
Why are you mad about accomplishments that aren't yours?
At least he got the expression right
>original game vs remaster
what kind of art contest only has two participants? I have a really hard time believing that nobody submitted a drawing that looked better than 1st place and still drew the dog from the original photo.
>I have a really hard time believing that nobody submitted a drawing that looked better than 1st place and still drew the dog from the original photo.
real life is fun like that
you're not wrong, but I'm still pretty confident that the dog on the left won because a lot of voters thought "wouldn't it be hilarious if I voted for that one?"
Who knows. I doubt some random facebook art contest had hundreds of entries.
Epitome of soul
Legit shit‘s all over 90% of /ic/
I hated this show with the heat of a thousand suns, dammit cow chicken was also god awful.
I thought it was fun.
He censored David with an anachronic piece of clothe. It's not cute. It's out of topic of being a snowman. He didn't get David right.
Baboon work is better.
The man was right. That statue didn't invoke anything positive or artistic vision of the creator, only pure spite and seething.
I know David Feiss isn't exactly smart, but this is pretty clever.
someone mentioned that weasel was Ganker latest obsession.
Left Soul
Right Soulless
Shit taste
anything indietrash
undertale
deltarune
friday night funkin
five nights at freddy's
basically anything that attracts autistic kids and furries
all games then? because all games attract autistic kids and furries, some are just more autistic than others
>thought and effort
you tards are so fricking pathetic. "thought and effort", oh mean graphics right? you forget about game design, mechanics, the shit that actually fricking matters? frick you homosexual and your homosexual thread. it goes in all fields
only good quality post in this thread
never change Ganker
/thread
How are flowers a dog?
Fall Guys is shite
The right is just a 1:1 copy of reality.
Left one is more creative.
Also if you see the original picture of the dog that they were supposed to be referencing the left captures the energy of the picture very well.
The right isn't even a 1:1 copy of reality. It's literally just some dumbass who rote-learned a "how to draw dog" tutorial and didn't bother looking at the photo they were supposed to copy. The left is a 1:1 copy of reality.
But was there really no one who did it better than the three year olds drawing? Were those the only two entries or something?
>But was there really no one who did it better than the three year olds drawing?
yes, that drawing made me so happy, the other 1 was just boring. I think there is a name for this
The winner was chosen by the community
1st place won because everyone thought it looked funny and can see the perspective and how it came to look like that
Basically, art is subjective
2nd place didn't even get the ears right. It's like he just heard draw dog and drew a completely different dog.
that's the thing everyone screeching about how bad the first one is doesn't get. while the first looks like something you'd hang on the fridge after your kid gave it to you, the second reeks of the kind of art your parents would hang on a wall behind your couch to "liven up the room."
>the second reeks of the kind of art your parents would hang on a wall behind your couch to "liven up the room."
that shit never works
They're just perked up. It's not just a trace of the same expression.
t.
note that this image was badly received by the entire internet and the original game's styles were far more creative then this new one
original art was the realistic graphics of the day and is soulless. curse is the only one with soul and love put into it
the artstyle of this game was ugly as frick, the pixel-art of the original 2 games were the best
>everything that came after my childhood BAD
soulless boomer
You needed a guide to figure out what to do with the rubber chicken. I know this is true.
curse looks great, just guybrush's close-ups look weird
israelite peewee?
>prompt was draw the dog who was in a moronic pose
>moron just drew random dog face
>"WOW SO UNFAIR THEY DREW GREAT GRAPHICS"
Maybe morons should read what the contest was about.
Left one is better purely on the fact that it's more interesting to look at. Right just imitates what we already know.
left has frog energy, right has stupid human energy.
If you want lifelike drawings go take a fricking picture gay. Every phone can do what you just spent 17 hours working on, in less than a minute.
Not to mention that if you can't go out and take one yourself, you can just look it up on the internet for one in 4k
Drawings these days should be creative, not realistic.
Besides, being good at drawing a low detail model also takes skill, just look at homies like Picasso and Dali, they could draw just fine, but their famous shit was completely original in style and composition
>being good at drawing a low detail model also takes skill
and the people who do that the best are the ones who learned how to draw like the pic on the right
you guys are idiots and know nothing about drawing, just crab mentality and cope
they were supposed to draw a froggo not a frog. so this is understandable
We are living in an Idiocracy.
Reminds me of Senpai in Nagatoro, he would only draw lifelike pictures and got told by everyone that while it is drawn well, it is still boring to look at.
Left has the "haha froggy" energy while right only gets a "yeah, that's a frog" out of you. Plain paintings of people or objects are mostly boring.
that soi feel
That means people have garbage taste and don't appreciate skill and dedication. People want shitty memes, not art.
shitty memes are art
Shit art is shit.
>Shit art is shit.
that is not how it works
Yes welcome to the pain of drawgays and why most of us just end up drawing lewds and furries
Nobody wants to patreon people who draw trees
Well yes, most people are mindless beings that follow whatever is popular.
Do you judge art based on its popular appeal? Should all good art win popularity contests? Is the world wrong?
Same reason modern games suck. They al go for hyper realistic graphics. They can do everything but instead simulate reality.
Realism thats just a copy of a photo is trash since we have cameras, now realism with things added on top thats way better
what would've happened 10 years ago
Kino
left: celeste
right: iconoclasts
Talent is utterly worthless in a nihilistic world where humor and virality is prioritized. No point trying to learn anything or improve at anything. Might as well quit your job and pump tiktok videos for quick easier money and hope your most loyal subscribers appear to recite your best maymays in your funeral
Having an "all or nothing" attitude is self-defeatist. "If you can't have everyone enjoy, what's the point?", The answer is that you don't need everyone and a friend to all is a friend to none.
Find a niche, establish good taste, and get good.
Pretty much this, any media currently popular on its merit is a holdover from older times when becoming popular on merit was possible, I can't think of a single new piece of media in any art medium that isn't only big because of a meme.
Everything Everywhere at Once
>le multiverse meme
That's the whole fricking point of my post isn't it? Stuff used to be able to become popular on merit, nowadays it can't.
Everything popular is a meme by definition. Or do you mean only meme when it's turned into humor by social media?
A popular thing can become a meme, but I'm talking about things that owe their popularity to abusing memes and viral hook premises you can share to friends or social media audiences in a short sentence or photo or video.
Compare what kind of anime used to become popular
>ninja boy adventures
>pirate boy adventures
>martial arts boy adventures
To what kind of anime becomes popular these days
>isekai.. but the protagonist is stuck in a time loop when he dies?!
>fantasy warrior.. but he autistically only kills goblins?!
>fantasy healer.. goes back in time to rape and mindbreak his villain?!
>spy man adventures.. but he marries an assassin and adopts a moe telepath girl?!
They kind of tap into people's morbid curiosity or twist existing concepts instead of just offering their own thing. If your thing doesn't have some sort of crazy wacky moment that can be quickly shared and understood online or turned into a meme, you can forget about it ever getting big.
We have more media than ever before and your complaint about unpopular media is that it isn't popular enough
My complaint is that the factors deciding what is popular and what is unpopular media have changed drastically
That's because all you consume is popular media.
The truth of the matter is, talent was never really important and many talented artists didn't get recognized until after they died. The world has always been like this.
This contest was to replicate a specific dog. 2nd place did a whole another dog and you people complain?
Somehow I can understand it. Technical perfection has been achieved centuries ago via the means of the photograph.
Meanwhile drawing allows you to surpass reality itself by injecting creativity, soul and/or humor into it. However that will never happen if you just aim to reproduce reality. In which case your product will always be inferior to a photograph, no matter how skilled you are.
Yes I agree.
Video games aren't there yet tho, it will probably take another 50 years before we get there.
Bitch, Pokémon is a combination of everything kids and all sorts of perverts like packed in a JRPG game, is fricking brilliant.
The market regulates itself
One on the right isn't that good.
>board now features unironic Among Us vs Fall Guys discussion
i never realized i was getting old until i saw this dogshit, thank you zoomer anon
Yeah it's crazy how I lived long enough to see this website be inherited by zoomers
Is this how the oldies felt when I was arguing about transformice vs ace of spades??
Tons of indie games look like they had a serious amount of effort put into them only to be left obscure by the crab bucket effect of indie game lists
but the first place is better
2nd place should have been disqualified for not even following the reference image
>What are some examples of this?
Pretty much every AAA game selling more than quality AA and lower titles.
There's dozens of nice dog pictures out in the world, but there's only 1 moronic dog picture like that
source?
My future children currently in line to be produced by my balls to never be born
I wish people would stop using irony because they are insecure about their tastes.
>using irony because they are insecure about their tastes.
source?
Are you 12?
you might want to back up your question
Goat simulator
I told my daughter this since she wanta to be an artist, and was insecure about her talent compared to others she sees online. It's not about how well you can draw; it's about how well you can connect with your intended audience and market yourself among a sea of artists.
Picrel, stuff she's drawn.
That's a nice drawing
How old is she?
24
She 100% draws FNAF furry porn. Hopefully she charges a lot for it
She better be the best she can be and not go off vanilla too much
o fug :DDDDD
>fall guys
>unique
They literally just stole ninja warrior. Even battle royale the entire genre is stolen from the east
who?
>ninja warrior
Are you moronic? It's basically the same thing as Takeshi's Castle.
So? Who asked weeb?
amogus took off because it was free
>amogus took off because it was free
???????????????
I don't know how you could make that more clear, esl-kun
It isn't free though clown.
>cod mw22
>made by a giant dev team
>publisher spending millions on shilling
>deep rock galactic
>made by indie dev team
>mostly known by word of mouth
The frick is a do lugar?
i remember this picture. it was an accuracy test. it won 1st place because it was the most accurate in a literal sense.
Left one has soul
right one is just traced from a photo.
>traced
>from a photo.
>>from a photo.
Yes
Amogus didn't become a meme until it was released
I hang around in communities full of people far more talented than me and despite the fact that I make no claims of being anything more than a bored anon playing with a tablet, and most of what I doodle looks like pic related, they still like what I post regardless. There's nothing wrong with being skilled (obviously) but being able to draw something that connects with people isn't really a thing you can be taught in a class.
You're the art equivalent of the ugly friend people keep around to make themselves look better
>You're the art equivalent of the ugly friend people keep around to make themselves look better
but that ugly friend keeps fricking the girls I like.
I know, stupid people tend to be popular and dedicated people never get deserved appreciation, I watched anime too
Left speaks to me on a personal level. Who cares about tree dragons.
>googoodada le contrarian funny xdxdx
homosexual
I remember this post from 10 years ago and I still don't agree with this dude. He's a b***h with no imagination.
he still has more imagination than that dicksucking sculpture
>he still has more imagination than that dicksucking sculpture
hell no! finish your work first.
does the wienersucker look finished to you either?
>does the wienersucker look finished to you either?
made me laugh, it made me think about my obsessions with masturbation and that I have to be a better man, it help me go to university and focus in my studies.
but it's not finished, there's no cum in sight.
left: soul
right: soulless
Undertale/Deltarune > Most of the current industry
Also for the idiots raging. The dog on the left actually looks like the dog they were supposed to draw and the dog on the right doesn't even fricking look like the same breed
Toby Fox's games only look bad. He puts effort and is a musical genius.
Yeah that's fair. They aren't low quality either imo.
>graphics are intentionally bad
>writing is recycled homosuck tumblr fanfiction
>programming is an embarrassing mess
>music is a couple of stolen melodies recycled across 100 tracks through leitmotifs
His success is 100% meme based, it's the type of game that would be laughed at, at any point in the industry's history before the internet ruined everything
>His success is 100% meme based, it's the type of game that would be laughed at, at any point in the industry's history before the internet ruined everything
Ganker loved games like that before they become popular.
Stop larping tourist
>Stop larping tourist
you are the cancer killing this board. Video games are fun
You are the cancer that already killed this board, the fact that you think there's anything left to kill proves you're a tourist that never knew what things used to be like
>you're a tourist that never knew what things used to be like
10+ in this hell
Undertale isn't a videogame
Nah. Toby's games are legit great and you only hate them because they got popular with people you dislike.
Nah, they are legit meme games and you only like them because they got popular with people you like.
video games are fun
>programming is an embarrassing mess
Who cares about that when the game works as intended? So you can jerk off to lines of code you don't get to see?
If anything Toby dabbed on cucks who go spend years in college learning programming "the right way" when he became sucessful writing if statements
it doesnt matter when it's a non-game
if it was an actual game it would matter
see: bethesda games
Good goy, I'll show this post to Toby and maybe he'll let you suck his dick a bit
>Toby Fox's games only look bad
they look good to me.
>Fall Guys
That game was utter trash and the devs moronic OP
>Haha left is better it has passion and soul and looks so much more intersting than right!
>WHAT THE FRICK WHY'D YOU BUILD THE HOUSE WITHOUT A STRUCTURE, WALLS OR ANY SUPPORT TO HOLD IT UP THIS IS SHIT
I don't understand
what? people complain about boring houses all the time.
>cringe tryhard attending a contest for children vs soulful child
Regardless of the OP, Undertale is a garbage troony game.
Just another run of the mill game that got popular because of le epic youtube troony culture.
Next thing you're going to tell me goat simulator is good.
Ganker liked it before the popularity
Ganker is filled with trannies.
I don't think something is good just because trannies like something.
Undertale is objectively a shit game with shit humor.
>trannies
stop thinking about them 24/7
you're all fricking Black folk
>you're all fricking Black folk
explain?
read the pic
>it's easy to get stuck doing the same things when your job is animating something cartoony
>do life drawing to counter this
what does this have to do with anything in this thread
so?
so claiming there's no reason for drawings that "copy of reality" is stupid since people need to learn the basics in order to trully get good
>so claiming there's no reason for drawings that "copy of reality" is stupid since people need to learn the basics in order to trully get good
again, so?
so you have the mind capacity of a dog
You should try reading your images before posting them.
>every artist HAS to pursue mastery of their craft
just draw because it's fun man, chill out. and if people like it then that's the cherry on top
yeah and if he were to start over like he said, he would get frustrated and quit.
but he doesn't have to start over, he just started
frick. thought he was talking about how he would learn if he were to travel back in time
he did, that's why he's recommending it as an experienced artist
only doing the one on the left will get you so far
>watching a youtube video of someone creating a character in literally any game with character creation
>LOL I'LL MAKE HIS SKIN GREEN AND HIS LIPS BLUE AND HIS HAIR SILLY AND HIS NOSE BIG AND EARS POINTY LOL JUST LOL I JUST CANT STOP LOLLING YOU GUYS HAHAHAHA I MADE HIS HAIR FRICKING PURPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what does that have to do with my bad and soulfull drawings??
not much really, seeing low effort ironic garbage get praise just kind of reminded me of the entire youtube gaming community
Pic related. Ultra-popular, minimal effort art.
what?
>Mad Rat Dead comes out in 2020
>Has fantastic music, stellar gameplay and surprisingly great story
>Dies into a niche shortly after release and is only kept alive by pixiv artists
>Friday Night Funkin is old but gets popular again in 2021
>Has some of the worst "music" ever conceived, awful gameplay and not much of a story
>Is still popular, made gangbusters for the kickstarter and is getting constant mod support and remixes
IF YOU JUST RELEASED YOUR GAME TO PC YOU WOULD HAVE AN AUDIENCE NIS, NOBODY PLAYS RHYTHM GAMES ON CONSOLE
Hey I like both, fnf music is like rap but without the Black folk
Amongus took off because it was a game about social interaction that became popular at a time where people were listed from having social interaction because of lockdown. Comparing it to Fall Guys is stupid because they are two very different styles of game.
First place: Undertale - great game despite its minimalistic and sometimes amateurish art design, famous (or infamous) everywhere for its quirkiness and meme status, well remembered long after it came out
Second Place: Owlboy - style over substance, took years to perfect the pixel art of a bland game nobody remembers anymore
>great game
Not great, not a game, back to Tumblr
>he's still seething
https://www.tumblr.com/
It's for you
Owlboy is so funny to me because despite having each asset be masterfully crafted, the environments as a whole look so artificial and bland. It's the best example of missing the forest for the trees when it comes to sprite-work.
I almost bought the collectors edition of that game, really sounds like I dodged a bullet on that one
It's not terrible, just very bland with a dumb story with an EPIC TWIST you see coming a mile away.
>with a dumb story with an EPIC TWIST you see coming a mile away.
I want a sequel, the twist was great
Yeah snake made a mistake by not including gay underage homosexual furry characters, those are all the rage nowadays when it comes to making your game remembered
>gay underage homosexual furry characters
But he did?
Why is this in spangloid when there is an english version?
Well deserved scores.
You first need to master drawing the one on the right to be able to come up with the one on the left
Left is actually great frick you
Left is soul. Culture built up "rules" of aesthetics the better to break them, to return to the essence of pure creation. The better side of modernist art understands that verisimilitude is just a strait jacket on creativity and what is possible.
>The better side of modernist art
puked in my mouth a little and stop reading there
>a unique game like Fall Guys
you hold w
>What are some examples of this?
PS1 horror games/scp games/backrooms games/analog horror based on mandela catalogue
Honestly I wouldn't mind it if they actually came with their own unique feeling and twist but they're all the same unoriginal trash
I know it takes effort to make a good game but shitting out a boring walking sim with a vsh filter and some fake footage is just pointless youtuber bait and nothing else
what happened to games/mods like cry of fear
No idea why zoomers have decided PS1 games are scary, a lot of them are peak comfy.
low res graphics are pretty scary combined with the right atmosphere
not saying medivil is scary lol
zoomer have no imagination so ps1 graphics that require to fill in the blanks brick the zoomer brain
I literally shat my pants and turned my PS1 off when I saw that scary mother fricking shadow in that window when I started playing RE2.
Never played it again.
Both Among us and Fall Guys are forced memes that get shilled more than the most pretentious AAA garbage. But I guess it's ok when the indies are manipulative soulsucking companies. It's only not OK when AAA companies do it.
Amongus isn't even Space Mafia
It's straight up a less fun TTT
Barkley Shut Up and Jam Gaiden got me emotional when Barkley did the final Chaos Dunk and saved the world. Such a dumb game but it was really fricking good
laughing at all these stupid gays in this thread.
the reward you get from your work is not proportional to the amount of 'hard work' you put in. as goes with art
whether a drawing receives a lot of attention depends on how interesting and/or relatable it is to the viewer.
if i showed you a photo of an emotionless, boring person you dont know, then after you told me to get that shit out of your face, told you that i drew it, you might be impressed for a second, but you still wouldn't really give a shit after. same goes with any drawing. if you draw a photorealistic dog and submit it to an art competition and get BTFO by some 3 year olds doodle, it means very ironically and hilariously that your art was a boring piece of shit that added zero to the 'just a dog nothing to see here' bit. now apply this concept to video games and you can easily see why indieshit gets more online attention than FIFA 57 or whatever installment we're on now
stupid homosexuals.
internet sure is cringe, we would never
Both are good
what THE FRICK are you doing on Ganker?
>i worked rly hard on it so therefore it is better
misunderstanding your audience is a pitfall of many art tryhards.
>literal popularity contest
>surprised when something you don't like comes out on top
Some day you will learn that popularity isn't the same as quality.
>Some day you will learn that popularity isn't the same as quality.
why?
people obsessing over meaningless quality
the drawing on the right is a soul-less replication of reality (like a photograph, but somehow worse) where the drawing on the left is artistic interpretation.
>the drawing on the right is a soul-less replication of reality
No anon, it isn't. Real life doesn't have line art, that kind of shading, or floating stylized flowers.
both drawings are artistic interpretations
Pokemon stole from Digital Devil Monogatari: MEGAMI TENSEI for the Famicom.
funny seeing how this thread got the exact opposite logic
>funny seeing how this thread got the exact opposite logic
anon, we are talking about art, that thread is about architecture. Despise the fact the they can overlap, architecture works need to follow rules or they will break/collapse.
architecture is art and the op is a literal pic of 3d art
>architecture is art and the op is a literal pic of 3d art
>despite the fact the they can overlap, architecture works need to follow rules or they will break/collapse.
Who?
god WHO. CARES. homosexual, good things will be always good thngs, stop caring about misinformed and ignorant popular opinion
sums up youtube and twitch.
Both capture the feeling of a dog, and art is subjective. Games are art.
Just copying reality 1:1 is boring. Only npcs are impressed with that kind of shit.
Fall Guys is only slightly less of a shitty low effort meme game compared to Among Us.
i really hate this, same reason why i despise abstract "art", its literally stuff that takes years to master vs a doddle that even a fricking toddler could make and yet people pay millions for it