It'll be exactly like gens 5, 6, 8, and 9 where there were no competitors to sony and ninty and they both sat comfortably in their niche and made insane money.
That should go to show you the importance of third party games. The the that carries the system for many of us isn’t the exclusives, it’s the fact it gets the majority of popular games. The GTA’s, CoD’s, Creeds etc that let you play with friends. While many like to throw around the phrase ‘no games’ for both Xbox and Sony because much of what they have is also on pc, we are simply not interested in playing them there. We made that choice some time back so no games turns into ‘almost all of the games’ barring the Steam low effort junk that sells for what most trips to fast food cost you.
Why is Microsoft pulling out of consoles now and not before the $40 billion Activision acquisition and when they werent over a trillion dollar company? Do they know something is about to happen that the publis doesn't and is pulling out of consoles as a strategic move than a cost saving measure? Is Sony still bring a console maker going to hurt them badly soon?
Bethesda was a panic buy because Sony was about to do a console exclusive deal for Starfield for PS5 like they did with two other games I don't even remember the names of.
Kotick managed to trick Microsoft to overpay for Activision just to finally bounce with that golden parachute. They finally realized they fricked up when they saw CoD's REAL player numbers.
starfield was only ever gonna be timed exclusive, just like ghostwire tokyo and deathloop were timed. so instead of waiting 12 months for starfield, they spent 7 billion for timed exclusivity on a handful of games. some titles like doom year zero are day and date multiplat anyways
friendly reminder that it was constantly being referred to as a merger. that means that while Activision is Microsoft now, Microsoft is also Activision. And that means running their business like Activision. Going third party is the best way to make back that 70 bil.
Microsoft just became the largest and most profitable publisher in the gaming industry with Bethesda, ABK and their studios they had before.
I don't know why people are surprised Xbox abandoned the console race, it was clear at the start of ths generation, that doesn't matter that Sony has no games, that Microsoft gives you gamepass for $1, that they literally give you money for playing games, people just don't buy Xbox because they lost the most important generation and everyone has already built their online library in PlayStation and are not willing to change now.
Xbox is turning into a big SEGA and betting into the cloud and subscription services, they aim to make their services a must in other devices like Nintendo and PS, they genuily think the console market is going to die soon, if this is the winning move we are going to see it in 10 years in the future, meanwhile they are comfortable with big papa multibillionaire Microsoft burning a couple of millions.
What I can say is now more than ever buy a fricking PC and jump out of the console ships now that is still early. PC + Switch is and always be the winning capital G gamer combo.
>everyone has already built their online library in PlayStation and are not willing to change now.
bullshit, anyone with a brain ditched snoy when it became fully obvious that 5 is a running joke with actual no games forever
i can rebuild my library for cheap in steam and not being tied to a dead shit performance console and paid pass is worth it, especially when every sony movie ends up on pc anyway soon enough
Man you are on fricking Ganker, you are not a little kid that doesn't know shit, if you are a dad that goes to the store to buy their kid a console which do you choose? Xbox one X, Xbox Series X, PS4 or PS5? Obviously fricking PS5 because it actually sounds like new
>anyone with a brain ditched snoy when it became fully obvious that 5 is a running joke with actual no games forever
Based. All that piece of shit will end up with is fricking Destruction AllStars, LMAO
>PC + Switch is and always be the winning capital G gamer combo.
Stop it with this tendie rethoric. Everyone is getting into the handheld market, the switch 2 or 3 will go the way of Wii U at the rate competition in it's niche keeps popping up and people keep getting more and more comfortable with Handheld PCs
They're not pulling out of consoles.
They're honoring their word that they wont be some sort of monopoly after acquiring activision blizzard by going hard on multiplat.
Depending on how much they multiplat, that WILL force them to pull out of consoles. Why get an Xbox console if everything ends up on PS5 + heavily discounted with Ubisoft-tier speeds on discounts?
Activision stuff staying multiplat is fine, as are maybe some smaller things here and there, but any "big hitters" need to stay exclusive or that's game set.
MS probably told Phil that buying Bethesda and Activision was his last chance and if it didn't immediately turn things around, they'd pull the plug on the Xbox brand.
>if it didn't immediately turn things around
Activision's games aren't even on Game Pass yet, almost 4 months after the acquisition, what the frick are they doing?
Microsoft is Activision now. Microsoft want Activision games on Game Pass, so they will be on it. I just don't understand why in the frick it's taking so long.
>Blizzard circling down the drain >Activision has 1 game that might lose all popularity at any time >Bethesda released a monumental failure and their next big game is a decade away >Obsidian's RPG looks like ass and might not even cover the cost of development >all their other games are in development hell aside from a couple of indie games
It's not looking good for third party Xbox
Hopefully, this shitahow going down causes them to reverse course.
I hate this generation so much. I don't want Sony to have a monopoly. I have both a PS5 and an Xbox Series X, and things will be completely ruined if Microsoft decides to ditch everything.
I blame GamePass for making low-quality exclusives, by having games be on the same day and date. Releasing games at the same time on PC also didn't help things.
Why would they reverse course because of the reception? The same people that are complaining weren't buying games on xbox in the first place which is why they're going in third party.
>“We’re not in the business of out-consoling Sony or out-consoling Nintendo. There isn’t really a great solution or win for us. I know that will upset a ton of people, but it’s just the truth of the matter. When you’re third place in the console marketplace and the top two players are as strong as they are >"I see it out there. I see commentary that if you just build great games, everything would turn around," he said. "It's just not true that if we go off and build great games, suddenly you're going to see console share shift in some dramatic way. >"This idea that if we just focused more on great games on our console, that somehow we're going to win the console race, I think doesn't relate to the reality of most people."
CEO of Microsoft Gaming, Phil Spencer (2023)
What a genius way to sell your console, Phil. "Xbox Series X: who needs great games anyway?"
I guess we're also supposed to forget all the years of "not just bringing hype, bringing games," "the greatest game lineup in Xbox history," etc.
When you consider how much time and money he's been given, this guy is worse than Mattrick ever was.
Xbox spent this generation doing nothing except telling customers >you don't deserve 11/10 games >you don't deserve to own your shit >you don't deserve exclusives
Now everything's fricking imploding and it's great. Old Ganker knew that Xbox would be the death and gaming and I'm so happy to see the good guys comes out on top.
There are no good people when money's involved. There is only what's good for oneself and then frick everyone else. Don't forget the many evils that sony committed back in the day, when they were on top. Ruthlessly murdered their competitors and greedily drank their blood, is what they did. But now that they are getting creamed by micro$, they play the role of the victim. Fricking disgusting.
>apparently >potentially >suggest >speculation >may
Jesus fricking christ. And this is all Microsoft's fault too. Fricking make an official comment already, you absolute morons.
You are going to watch the few remaining Xbox fanboys lose their fricking minds over the course of the next three months. Actual insanity, rioting in the streets and sacrificing a child under moonlight to bathe in its blood kind of stuff. A giant is dead and going third-party because they tried too hard too fast to make everything digital-only and online-only a decade ago. They tried to slap you with their wiener and you bit it off, and you were right to do it. What were they fricking thinking trying to force the Kinect right on the back of the Snowden privacy leaks?
It would have been hard, but not impossible, to bounce back from the digital libraries cultivated on the PS4. They didn't do that, Game Pass was their answer, to try and make a forever digital library as a subscription, but the only way that would fricking work is if they bought out the entire video game industry. Instead they could only keep buying western developers and add their shit to the heap and Starfield making no money was the last cry out and the final nail in the coffin.
When both the FTC and Microsoft said NINTENDO DOESN'T COUNT in the FTC court case as their opening statements, everybody knew it was fricking over. Right now we may actually be looking at the end of The Console Wars, not at the end of Microsoft specifically.
>sony won
not after those insomniac leaks showed how much the game cost and how hard sony banks their bullshit selling hundreds of millions every time
they want to be Hollywood SO BAD
Their deeper pockets were the reason they failed, they thought they'd do what they do in the tech sector and just buy their way to victory and cannibalize every new acquisition. Didn't work, actually it made everybody hate them and their freshly cannibalized studios can't put out any work worth a damn, more often they can't put out any work at all.
Sony has been a consumer electronics goliath for decades. They might not have the same deep pockets as Microsoft, but they have a level of expertise and competence in this area that Microsoft doesn't. They were already selling consoles by the millions when all Microsoft had to offer was shitty Sidewinder controllers and Minesweeper.
The console market has also been historically carried by Japanese companies. Western companies have never been able to compete. Their place is on PC.
>OP is unironically begging for wiener now
>now
it's gonna be weird without xbox being a thing anymore. I'm curious to see what's gonna happen
It'll be exactly like gens 5, 6, 8, and 9 where there were no competitors to sony and ninty and they both sat comfortably in their niche and made insane money.
>PS5 has no games in gen 8 or 9
Truly wretched consoles
That should go to show you the importance of third party games. The the that carries the system for many of us isn’t the exclusives, it’s the fact it gets the majority of popular games. The GTA’s, CoD’s, Creeds etc that let you play with friends. While many like to throw around the phrase ‘no games’ for both Xbox and Sony because much of what they have is also on pc, we are simply not interested in playing them there. We made that choice some time back so no games turns into ‘almost all of the games’ barring the Steam low effort junk that sells for what most trips to fast food cost you.
Games will go for 120 dollars with Sony as the only AAA game provider
good poorgays should not enjoy my hobby
>6/th8th gen
The Wii U and Gamecube flopped hard
Their handhelds still sold tens of millions
>reports also suggest
Why is Microsoft pulling out of consoles now and not before the $40 billion Activision acquisition and when they werent over a trillion dollar company? Do they know something is about to happen that the publis doesn't and is pulling out of consoles as a strategic move than a cost saving measure? Is Sony still bring a console maker going to hurt them badly soon?
Only if someone has invented lag-free internet and they plan on video games becoming a streaming service.
Bethesda was a panic buy because Sony was about to do a console exclusive deal for Starfield for PS5 like they did with two other games I don't even remember the names of.
Kotick managed to trick Microsoft to overpay for Activision just to finally bounce with that golden parachute. They finally realized they fricked up when they saw CoD's REAL player numbers.
starfield was only ever gonna be timed exclusive, just like ghostwire tokyo and deathloop were timed. so instead of waiting 12 months for starfield, they spent 7 billion for timed exclusivity on a handful of games. some titles like doom year zero are day and date multiplat anyways
i think you cracked it anon. microsoft isn't that smart, they're just frickin huge
Once they own every big IP they can make everything game pass exclusive and kill off consoles at any time
friendly reminder that it was constantly being referred to as a merger. that means that while Activision is Microsoft now, Microsoft is also Activision. And that means running their business like Activision. Going third party is the best way to make back that 70 bil.
Microsoft just became the largest and most profitable publisher in the gaming industry with Bethesda, ABK and their studios they had before.
I don't know why people are surprised Xbox abandoned the console race, it was clear at the start of ths generation, that doesn't matter that Sony has no games, that Microsoft gives you gamepass for $1, that they literally give you money for playing games, people just don't buy Xbox because they lost the most important generation and everyone has already built their online library in PlayStation and are not willing to change now.
Xbox is turning into a big SEGA and betting into the cloud and subscription services, they aim to make their services a must in other devices like Nintendo and PS, they genuily think the console market is going to die soon, if this is the winning move we are going to see it in 10 years in the future, meanwhile they are comfortable with big papa multibillionaire Microsoft burning a couple of millions.
What I can say is now more than ever buy a fricking PC and jump out of the console ships now that is still early. PC + Switch is and always be the winning capital G gamer combo.
>everyone has already built their online library in PlayStation and are not willing to change now.
bullshit, anyone with a brain ditched snoy when it became fully obvious that 5 is a running joke with actual no games forever
i can rebuild my library for cheap in steam and not being tied to a dead shit performance console and paid pass is worth it, especially when every sony movie ends up on pc anyway soon enough
Man you are on fricking Ganker, you are not a little kid that doesn't know shit, if you are a dad that goes to the store to buy their kid a console which do you choose? Xbox one X, Xbox Series X, PS4 or PS5? Obviously fricking PS5 because it actually sounds like new
>anyone with a brain ditched snoy when it became fully obvious that 5 is a running joke with actual no games forever
Based. All that piece of shit will end up with is fricking Destruction AllStars, LMAO
>PC + Switch is and always be the winning capital G gamer combo.
Stop it with this tendie rethoric. Everyone is getting into the handheld market, the switch 2 or 3 will go the way of Wii U at the rate competition in it's niche keeps popping up and people keep getting more and more comfortable with Handheld PCs
They're not pulling out of consoles.
They're honoring their word that they wont be some sort of monopoly after acquiring activision blizzard by going hard on multiplat.
Depending on how much they multiplat, that WILL force them to pull out of consoles. Why get an Xbox console if everything ends up on PS5 + heavily discounted with Ubisoft-tier speeds on discounts?
Activision stuff staying multiplat is fine, as are maybe some smaller things here and there, but any "big hitters" need to stay exclusive or that's game set.
I just hope that's the case. All because of a moronic court order, that didn't realize that Microsoft was in 3rd place.
If Sony were to buy EA, they would have free reisgn to make their games exclusive to PlayStation consoles.
I just want competition. The "losing" console usually has better features, and better games, all because they're trying to increase sales.
I think M$ or the better, the xbox division is just straight up moronic.
MS probably told Phil that buying Bethesda and Activision was his last chance and if it didn't immediately turn things around, they'd pull the plug on the Xbox brand.
>if it didn't immediately turn things around
Activision's games aren't even on Game Pass yet, almost 4 months after the acquisition, what the frick are they doing?
Activision is one of the greediest, scummiest publishers around. Their shit is never going on Game Pass.
Microsoft is Activision now. Microsoft want Activision games on Game Pass, so they will be on it. I just don't understand why in the frick it's taking so long.
>buy activison
>become one of the largest publishers
My guess is someone at Microsoft realized they should pivot into focusing on publishing rather than consoles.
>Blizzard circling down the drain
>Activision has 1 game that might lose all popularity at any time
>Bethesda released a monumental failure and their next big game is a decade away
>Obsidian's RPG looks like ass and might not even cover the cost of development
>all their other games are in development hell aside from a couple of indie games
It's not looking good for third party Xbox
Don't forget that the people that play Candy Crush are starting to lose their motor skills
that's the funniest part about all this, they're just not making good games
the pc master race meme actually ended up killing consoles
Hopefully, this shitahow going down causes them to reverse course.
I hate this generation so much. I don't want Sony to have a monopoly. I have both a PS5 and an Xbox Series X, and things will be completely ruined if Microsoft decides to ditch everything.
I blame GamePass for making low-quality exclusives, by having games be on the same day and date. Releasing games at the same time on PC also didn't help things.
Why would they reverse course because of the reception? The same people that are complaining weren't buying games on xbox in the first place which is why they're going in third party.
>“We’re not in the business of out-consoling Sony or out-consoling Nintendo. There isn’t really a great solution or win for us. I know that will upset a ton of people, but it’s just the truth of the matter. When you’re third place in the console marketplace and the top two players are as strong as they are
>"I see it out there. I see commentary that if you just build great games, everything would turn around," he said. "It's just not true that if we go off and build great games, suddenly you're going to see console share shift in some dramatic way.
>"This idea that if we just focused more on great games on our console, that somehow we're going to win the console race, I think doesn't relate to the reality of most people."
CEO of Microsoft Gaming, Phil Spencer (2023)
What a genius way to sell your console, Phil. "Xbox Series X: who needs great games anyway?"
I guess we're also supposed to forget all the years of "not just bringing hype, bringing games," "the greatest game lineup in Xbox history," etc.
When you consider how much time and money he's been given, this guy is worse than Mattrick ever was.
MS and Sony ultimately dropping exclusivity makes perfect sense when you realize they're American ran companies who are only interested in profit.
Sony didn't their problem is that AAA exclusive games just take too long to make.
can they at least offer xbox owners some sort of consolation? aren't they ashamed that they're making people waste money on a shittier playstation?
Sony fricking won.
Xbox spent this generation doing nothing except telling customers
>you don't deserve 11/10 games
>you don't deserve to own your shit
>you don't deserve exclusives
Now everything's fricking imploding and it's great. Old Ganker knew that Xbox would be the death and gaming and I'm so happy to see the good guys comes out on top.
Are the good guys PC and Nintendo? They won.
Yeah sure let's go with that.
There are no good people when money's involved. There is only what's good for oneself and then frick everyone else. Don't forget the many evils that sony committed back in the day, when they were on top. Ruthlessly murdered their competitors and greedily drank their blood, is what they did. But now that they are getting creamed by micro$, they play the role of the victim. Fricking disgusting.
>apparently
>potentially
>suggest
>speculation
>may
Jesus fricking christ. And this is all Microsoft's fault too. Fricking make an official comment already, you absolute morons.
You are going to watch the few remaining Xbox fanboys lose their fricking minds over the course of the next three months. Actual insanity, rioting in the streets and sacrificing a child under moonlight to bathe in its blood kind of stuff. A giant is dead and going third-party because they tried too hard too fast to make everything digital-only and online-only a decade ago. They tried to slap you with their wiener and you bit it off, and you were right to do it. What were they fricking thinking trying to force the Kinect right on the back of the Snowden privacy leaks?
It would have been hard, but not impossible, to bounce back from the digital libraries cultivated on the PS4. They didn't do that, Game Pass was their answer, to try and make a forever digital library as a subscription, but the only way that would fricking work is if they bought out the entire video game industry. Instead they could only keep buying western developers and add their shit to the heap and Starfield making no money was the last cry out and the final nail in the coffin.
When both the FTC and Microsoft said NINTENDO DOESN'T COUNT in the FTC court case as their opening statements, everybody knew it was fricking over. Right now we may actually be looking at the end of The Console Wars, not at the end of Microsoft specifically.
>gold face won
>nobody uses the meme anymore
>sony won
not after those insomniac leaks showed how much the game cost and how hard sony banks their bullshit selling hundreds of millions every time
they want to be Hollywood SO BAD
It’s so funny that starfield killed the Xbox great job todd
From RROD to One, Sony had plenty of stumbles so how the company with infinitely deeper pockets came up short first is interesting.
Their deeper pockets were the reason they failed, they thought they'd do what they do in the tech sector and just buy their way to victory and cannibalize every new acquisition. Didn't work, actually it made everybody hate them and their freshly cannibalized studios can't put out any work worth a damn, more often they can't put out any work at all.
Sony has been a consumer electronics goliath for decades. They might not have the same deep pockets as Microsoft, but they have a level of expertise and competence in this area that Microsoft doesn't. They were already selling consoles by the millions when all Microsoft had to offer was shitty Sidewinder controllers and Minesweeper.
The console market has also been historically carried by Japanese companies. Western companies have never been able to compete. Their place is on PC.
Is Playstation though not sustainable in the long run for Sony? I don't get the business logic you how Sony still makes money.