>main character has a personality and speaks
>still able to name him whatever you want, despite his default name being tidus
>because of this, the characters never refer to him by his name despite the game having voice acting
>this has lead to two decades of debate and confusion over how his name is pronounced despite spin-offs and commercials pronouncing it one way over the other because they were too stubborn to remove the character naming option for some bizarre reason despite full voice acting
it's very funny that this could've all been avoided if they actually referred to his name in-game
>they should design games to work around pointless internet forum debates and not the experience
you're moronic and can't read
You can name him because you can name all the summons, anon.
pls dont blow his mind he doesnt get it
>Jecht
Is never in your party
This game is such absolute kino. Never saying the protagonist's name is kino. It's weird and a little offputting and makes this game memorable. They don't have the gumption to do something just straight up weird like that to make a relatively esoteric plot point these days.
and then when it is finally said in other games it becomes a special moment
square simply thinks 30 moves ahead, how can any other developer compare?
and how does that excuse making the dialogue incredibly awkward by never saying his name?
It's not awkward, there is no excuse because nothing has been done.
You clearly have some kind of autism, we can't help you
you, the player, excuses it as compromise to make the "rpg" more customizable/interactive, and never have second thought about it
the illusion is all on the player's side
Considering how bad pronunciation of names can be back in PS2 era this wouldn't have avoided all this. Dynasty Warriors butchers names all over the place.
Being able to name him is still a bad decision. I agree. I don't why FF thought it was a good idea.
He is not a summon idiot. He came back in FFX-2. It's not in my mind. Frick you. Frick you. Frick you. Yuna and Teedus got together.
He did come back. Then he got his head blown off by a bomb.
COW COW
that doesn't make sense. You can name the protagonist in other final fantasy games where that's not the case.
In other FF you can name the entire party. In X the only characters you can name share a particular thing in common.
You cannot name anyone in the party in V besides Bartz himself, and only Squall and Rinoa can have custom names in VIII.
Ever Final Fantasy game is a standalone experience with its own universe and themes.
Cute but it's really because japan is autistic and considers naming the main character utterly necessary for an rpg
it helped with different save files. I named him Tidus in one and Abe in another and I knew which was which.
>Most FF games play The Prelude at the title screen
>FFX plays "The Summoning" at the title screen
>>New Game
>Name Tidus
>The Prelude begins
Wow. I should really replay FFX again. Squaresoft were so cool.
I'm going to replay it after I finish my current 9 playthrough. I've picked up FFX quite a few times but I don't think I've actually beaten it since it was a fairly new game.
it never felt like tidus was ever properly a part of the team because of that
That boy's name is Macbeth.
Everyone knows it, so why say it?
the only pronunciation that matters is in Japanese and in Japanese if you can read it you can pronounce it correctly. His name in english doesn't matter because english translations aren't real so call him whatever you like. If I am talking about Aeris in english I refer to her as Aeris because it sounds more normal.
The first sane posts on this thread. Frick EOP Black folk.
Okay weeb
Weeb website.
Only in moron-languages. His name is ティーダ.
His name is pronounced "tie-dus"
"Tide" + "us"
Because of water.
"Tee" + "Dus"
If you're moronic.
These. By the way, many of you probably already know, but there's actually at least one instance where an NPC does call Tidus by his name, or whatever you give him. Obviously, it isn't voiced, and therefore doesn't really fit the context of OP's troll topic, but it's still pretty cool if you never knew and randomly stumbled upon it like I did.
In Kilika, one of the Besaid Aurochs, I think maybe Jassu or however you spell his name (the melanated gentleman), is helping rebuild some wood shit and if you talk to him he'll be like "Watch out, [Tidus], it's dangerous or something ya," and idk, after years of playing and replaying the game and knowing all the memes about "they never say le teedus's name cuz of le voice acting" and then seeing my custom name show up in dialogue was pretty rad.
I hated how normies, that had no business in this hobby in the first place, just had to have homosexual ass voice acting in everything which meant I couldn't name my characters in RPGs anymore. I mean, some still allow it, but they are so few and far between. I am, therefore, rather excited about the prospects of ~~*AI*~~ potentially solving this problem once and for all, seeing as how it can do gosh damn anything—it should be no trouble for it to be able to say any custom name and sound perfectly believable. But, then again, most people in this world are morons and even if an RPG comes out with fully AI-voiced voice acting, it wouldn't at all shock me if we still couldn't fricking name a single character in it.
I don't want to play as some homosexual whose name I can't change.
dragon quest is the boomers last refuge... even then they eventually added voices to 11 eventually
Dragon Quest has had voice acting since the english version of VIII. And the 3ds port with japanese voices does predates XI by a few years.
Tit-ass
The issue is thinking there is only "one" way to pronounce it.
Consider the following: there is no "one" real English, English from the middle of the US is just as "valid" as English from Scotland which is just as "valid" as English from Africa.
Even if the devs say one thing, that doesn't matter. They probably name "Cloud" something like "Croudu", are you going to pretend that's "how it's supposed to be" too ?
Holy fricking midwit.
Some things simply aren't up for debate, some things are just plain wrong, no matter where you are on the planet. Show me one English-speaking country where the name Richard is pronounced "Rye Chart". Even for a made up name, there will be one correct pronunciation.
This is not simply not true though, there are plenty of words that pronounce differently depending on the country, and sometimes even depending on the region within the same country and names are no different. I have known people whose names are of foreign origin and there were two ways to pronounce the name, neither of which is more correct than the other and the person respected that and just told others to use whatever pronounciation they liked.
The difference is I actually studied this stuff, it was part of my degree. Thinking "your" way of pronouncing things is "THE correct one" is for dumb nationalists who don't realize "their" correct way has been changing through hundreds of years of use and foreign influence.
Take Squall for instance
https://www.wordreference.com/enfr/squall
two completely different pronounciations for US and UK; and I very much doubt the Japanese use either of those. So, what's "correct", the Japanese way? The UK standard? The US standard? None, they're all equally correct.
engrish is still japanese, so while you might be able to say it's correct you also cannot say it is english
>you also cannot say it is english
It's english with a Japanese accent.
>It was part of my fake 21st century degree so easy they even let women graduate
Did you even learn Latin? lol
>mostly due to their nicknames in the orphanage flashback.
Well, no, it was primarily done that way so the players wouldn't name Quistis after their favorite waifu or rl crush, and therefore warm up to Rinoa more considering she's the only other one, besides Squall, you get to name.
>source: dude trust me
No, really, one of the asiatics that worked on the game literally said something to that effect in an interview. That being said, what you mentioned is still important, considering that yeah, if you could name them, it wouldn't work well for the nicknames part. But, I mean, it'd just be simpler to...not have them give each other muppet baby nicknames. Actually, while we're at it, just cut the orphanage shit altogether and lean into the R=U shit that is obviously canon and real.
When I first played Final Fantasy on my sister's playstation, there were different save files with different school crushes or boyfriends she had over the years. I sometimes forget that for girls Final Fantasy has that sort of appeal.
I've told this story before, but an old friend of mine named Aerith after a girl he had a mad crush on on his first playthrough, the rest of us who played the game before all stayed silent. Then he got to the city of the ancients, and when Seph shanked her he just sat there for a moment before getting up and leaving without saying a single word.
Next time we went over to his place he restarted the game.
i have seen this exact post, verbatim, on this site before. Like within the past few months.
>I've told this story before
yeah cuz you a bot
>lean into the R=U shit that is obviously canon and real.
you had me until you went full moron at the end there
Why did you link me(
)? That's what I said. There is more than one video that says Teedus. There's only one official mispronunciation in KH2 as Tie dus. The debate has been long settled.
I always pronounced it Tiey-daew-iews.
>>this has lead to two decades of debate and confusion over how his name is pronounced
EOP problem
How many people skipped X and played x-2 because they hated this gay?
Why do people hate Tidus out of maybe finding his English voice actor irritating? He's basically the exact opposite in personality than the brooding mess that was Cloud and Squall. Uplifting, cheerful, optimistic, and confident.
He has such a creepy kpop male model look with overdesigned clothes
If they'd made him a buzz cut jock pro-athlete like his character is supposed to be foreigners would have loved him, but it was just not in the cards for 2001 square
>He has such a creepy kpop male model look with overdesigned clothes
That's every Nomura character main male protag ever.
Cloud really never looks like a human rather than a cartoon even in the best cutscenes and squall maybe by accident had a masculine face when you are able to see it. Tidus is when their grasp for asian twinks met their reach
>squall maybe by accident had a masculine face when you are able to see it.
I'm speaking about their concept arts, not their visualization in rudimentary 3D. Yes, I agree, lot of it was off model but Nomura's work did hit his final form of artistry around 99-2004 and everything after followed those wacky designs.
>He looks absolutely soulless in the remaster
As said, he looks more in line with his concept art and CGI cutscenes. His jawline in the OG version is far too extruded hence why there was a whiplash in his appearance when cutting from ingame to cutscene.
And I agree, the remastered version could use improvement. Though I think when in motion it looks better than a still image.
Well consider that the final concept art of FFX's characters were created right when Kingdom Hearts was greenlit. This artstyle was familiar with all of Nomura's stuff back then. Like the Bouncer for example. Sion might as well be Sora if he was 5 years older.
Yuna is without a doubt better though. Less potato faced and more inline with her actual concept art.
Overly white sclera and vibrant irises even in dimmed lighting looks so cartoony and extremely kingdom hearts. I wouldn't complain just over changing models
PS2 version still looks best here. Sad
wtf why did the graphics get worse each time
He looks more like his concept art but that's not saying much, moving a few inches from a mile isn't that great.
I just find it funny that Tidus has this syndrome where it's almost impossible to make him look like his concept art. If you want some true nightmare fuel, look up Tidus from Final Fantasy Mobius.
Not Noctis if he still counts
I dont see how he looks creepy? He just looks like a handsome guy.
He basically has a completely different model and design in those 1-2 cutscenes where he has that full human face, if that was anything like he looked in the much more common in-engine scenes it would work better
I actually think Tidus looks the most realistic (asian) out of any FF protag thus far.
Its wierd sometimes he looks asian and sometimes he looks like hes only part asian.
I think his VA is okay, I just really hated how his in-game model looked, looked like an absolute dumbass
I think that's main reason they swapped his model in the remaster since it looked completely off model from his concept art and prerendered look. Same goes for Yuna who had a potato face in-game.
He looks absolutely soulless in the remaster and I mean that in quite a literal sense. His original face just looked stupid but the remaster made him to look like one of those Japanese Noh masks, absolutely creepy looking.
Everyone else looks fun, it's just Tidus that has this weird problem.
*fine not fun
They look like kingdom hearts 1 designs to me
>He's basically the exact opposite in personality than the brooding mess that was Cloud and Squall. Uplifting, cheerful, optimistic, and confident.
Yeah but nobody remembers that, they just remember the meme laugh and the crying about his dad part.
There has never been a "debate" on this. There have been people who can read, and people who are wrong. No debate about it.
They say his name in Dissidia
People hate Tidus's PS2 face? Why? HD remaster did a bad job on all models in my opinion. People praise Wakka's HD model for some reason. It's not that I'm against upgrading them. FFXII did a great job. PS3 era remaster were generally not impressive.
Because this is a contrarian board where people post terrible opinions.
They remade the model from scratch and fricked up.
Hating the new models IS the contrarian opinion. Go ask any normal guy that who grew up with FFX and doesn't spend all his free time on Ganker what he thinks of the models and see the confused look you get. moron.
People always complained about FFX HD remaster models. Even animations are bugged. They had to change Tidus at last minute. They originally released pic related.
Nobody ever complains about FFXII's models because they are actually improved. Most criticism regarding FFXII is widescreen is zoomed in, textures are over sharpened and some PS2 effects are missing. FFXII adds other stuff to make up for it.
Some people were even hoping for FFX PS4 rerelease remodelling.
>picrel
This looks closer to the PS2 release actually. They straight up just gave him diabetes in the end.
Yeah. I think it is possible they thought people were complaining about his east asian eyes rather than the model. So they gave us circular eyed Tidus while missing the point of complaints. Japanese companies sometimes over think stuff like these. Funny thing is FMV model always looked more asian so it was actually accurate. I personally prefer PS2 ingame model faces over FMVs. I wish Square updated HD remasters models but it won't happen.
For me faces design wise
PS2 > FMV > PS2 low poly > HD remaster
HD Remaster low polies are different as well. Or at least, the facial textures were changed to match the new HQ models.
>this ugly garbage is ok because your average low iq normie won't notice
I get that's why it happened That isn't a defense of low quality. I'm not sure why you even made that argument.
What is Homer referring to?
losing superbowls
t. vikes fan
X probably has the best progression / pacing of any FF, one of the only ones where I can just pick up and go from start to end credits without ever hitting a slog.
How to pronounce "Tidus"
>Japanese = Tee-duhss
>This is named after the Okinawan term for "the Sun" (天 · 道 = tīda)
>It is in contrast of his love interest, "Yuna," which means "the Moon"
>English = Taid-uhss
>This is a reference to the term of waves occurring from gravitational pull from the Moon, "tide"
>It is in contrast of his love interest, "Yuna," which means "the Moon," indicating his attraction to her
Tidus loved Yuna, but do you think he'd frick Rikku on the sly?
They're very close cousins, you could probably openly do it, if not have them both join.
Towards the start of the story he absolutely would, but as the game progresses and he falls deeper and deeper in love with Yuna and gets character development, he'd eventually reach the point where he'd find the idea of cheating on her repulsive.
That being said he might cop the occasional feel if he thought Rikku'd let him.
Rikku's return to the team is such kino. Tidus and Wakka rescue Yuna from peril and then Tidus blushes as Rikku unzips her suit.
who cares?, the plot of the game is improved by the absence of name and that is more important that 2 decades of dumbass forum debates (also, the name is pronounced in that dumb fighting game, so shut up, thi is a non issue)
Anyone else hate using Lulu because her regular attacks take so long every time you cycle her in for xp? I usually just make Kimarhi a black mage and just don't bother levelling Lulu because half the game's play time feels like watching her doll slowly walk over to various enemies.
Just defend
Don't like her cause she's a moody goth chick and I loathe that female archetype. Always been a Rikku guy though I warmed up a little to Yuna on my first replay 15 years later.
You can just have her use Focus instead. Battle participation isn't determined by dealing damage, you just have to use any ability with the character.
Defend is good enough. Another perk of simply defending is that you can get more turns with fill ATB gauge much more quickly often enough to have the whole party have a turn before the enemy
His name is Ainz
Cozy tropical settings were super popular around Y2K. FFX, Chrono Cross, Giants Citizen Kabuto, etc. What happened and why did it get replaced with ugly sterile sci-fi settings?
The director literally answered this debate years ago. Only morons think there's a debate left.
Which debate?
>there are people who don't pronounce it "titus"