Make him viable again for me?

Make him viable again for me /vp/ so he's not a shitmon.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Shitfernape
    Nah

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To be honest, the powercreep made everything a lost cause.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We have to deal with ugly shit like Cinderace and Meowscarada being good. Shame starters can't be good and well designed anymore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Actually I'm 35. I just happen to have better taste than you anon.

        You tell it like it is.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >We have to deal with ugly shit like Cinderace and Meowscarada being good
        both designs are better than generic monkey with a bra slapped on it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          she’s supposed to just let her breasts hang out?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This.

            >We have to deal with ugly shit like Cinderace and Meowscarada being good
            both designs are better than generic monkey with a bra slapped on it

            WTF, anon?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >both designs are better than generic monkey
          Not really no.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes really yes

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              nahh not really no

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But seriously now, your taste is shit.

          Even *if* Infernape was just a generic monkey (again, big IF), that wouldn't make it worse than two "interesting" but fugly designs (talking more about Cinderace here, Meowscarada isn't that bad but it's still flawed and definitely worse than Infernape).

          Yes really yes

          See above.

          >Verification not required.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but fugly designs
            they're not fugly

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Cinderace is.

              And Meowscarada is a butterface with badly made arms, though Crindisgrace is worse in the arm aspect too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Heck, taking into acount the whole head, the rabbit is worse in every way.

                It's such a shame that both of them evolve from two great designs.
                >Verification not required.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cinderace is
                nope

                >B-B-BUT IT HAS SMALL HANDS!!
                the entire point of its design is that it doesn't use its hands to attack

                >And Meowscarada is a butterface with badly made arms
                nope, the arms communicate the fact that it's a jester

                get a better argument

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's supposed to be shit
                No, -you- get a better argument.

                Grimer/Muk are supposed to be literal shit yet they look like cool blob/slime monsters.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>it's supposed to be shit
                not what I said
                get a better argument

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It really is what you said.
                >the arms are deformed because it represents something!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>the arms are deformed
                they're not deformed

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >SMALL HANDS!!
                Why did you say this if nobody else mentioned it?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You did mention it though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The image doesn't mention what is wrong with the hands.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go ahead and tell the class what's wrong with tis hands then.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                >SMALL HANDS!!
                Why did you say this if nobody else mentioned it?

                .

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even the blind can see it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Rabbit living Rent free

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and thread ruined by an honorary homosexual

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Calm down autismo

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and thread ruined by an honorary homosexual

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >parroting
          Pathetic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >how_aids_came_to_sinnoh.png

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nerf the power creep of the later gen Pokemon and gimmicks.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Contrary or Regenerator

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't Adaptability work better than Regenerator? Contrary with CC sounds pretty good.

      No, frick this ugly ass monkey

      Certainly better than most of Gen 2, 3 and everything after 4 starters.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Certainly better than most of Gen 2, 3
        t. age number starts with a 1

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Actually I'm 35. I just happen to have better taste than you anon.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Overheat aswell. Fire type Serperior but with a movepool and actual special attack

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, frick this ugly ass monkey

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    give him gorilla tactics

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Naaah, I don't really feel like it

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Every Starter Pokemon gets a new signature move if they didn't have one already (Infernape's is a signature version of Work Up that boosts Attack, Special Attack, and Speed by 1 stage)
    >Replace Iron Fist with Sheer Force
    >Learns Wood Hammer (Ruyi Jingu Bang)
    >Learns Transform (72 Bian)
    >Learns Magnet Rise (Kinto'un)
    >Learns Sacred Fire
    >Learns Thunder Wave (Dìng Shēn Zhóu)

    There, now Infernape is a better Monkey King reference and has a much larger bag of tricks to use competitively. It hits way harder, can set up on switches, can support while pivoting, and can clip switch ins with powerful attacks

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's not a shitmon. Game Freak is just ass at balancing shit. Everytime they release something new it needs to be bigger and better, they powercreep shit up the ass and then later on don't know how to fix it, so they just keep doing it until it sorts itself out.

    Powerscaling in pokemon is fricking bonkers and nonsensical. Just the fact that we need something as moronic and autistic as smogon is proof enough that the higher-ups are dumbfricks that never know what they're doing. I know i'll never see my bro vindicated, and that's okay, because older games still exist and he's still the king over there. I'm just hoping for a Mega at this point, since we got frickall with BDSP and P:LA, and my bro deserves one for carrying early Gen IV.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My bro got powercrept in his own generation, then came back, and then got powercrept again. If that's not enough proof to you people i don't know what is.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >m just hoping for a Mega at this point, since we got frickall with BDSP and P:LA
      If BDSP was a remake that followed previous remakes, we probably would've gotten G-Max Infernape.
      I think it'd be cool if the Sinnoh starters had different gimmicks between them: Gigantamax Torterra, Mega Infernape, and a Z-Move for Empoleon.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >we probably would've gotten G-Max Infernape
        Thank god we didn’t

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he just needs a speed increase to keep up
    nugen mons are too damn fast and KANTOOOOOOmons are the only old ones who still get buffs so they can keep shilling them

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is he actually completely unviable now? Are any of the staters pre-gen 6 considered usable outside of speed-boost Blaziken?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is really not that bad has fake out and iron fist drain punch just introduced too late in S/V

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. Infernape
    2. Typhosion
    3. Charizard
    4. Blaziken
    5. Emboar
    6. Incineroar
    7. Skeliderge
    8. Cinderace
    9. Delphox

    When you really break it down, the first starters are probably have the weakest final evos overall.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fire starters*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >emboar anywhere other than the bottom
      This post is worthless.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    post your stupid redesign already, yawnie

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Verification not required.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >calling anyone gay when you’re dicksucking that gayrabbit

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Their animations are cute.
    The fanart made with them is cute.
    The design by itself is ugly.

    This is because concept is not bad, just badly executed. Many such cases.
    >Verification not required.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like them both

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same

      You like everything.
      >Verification not required.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What if they had sex?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Iron Fist is buffed to x1.5 damage on punching moves
    No clue why Iron Fist was never buffed even after Tough Claws came into existence.

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