After OLED ANNOUNCEMENT
>Not even Nintendo was this bad, had years between normal and OLED model
>Valve said deck 2 would be years away
>Screwed over the artifact fan base
>Great and the worst part is I ordered it and there's no trade in program for the old deck
>Steam deck (original) is useless now
We were betrayed bros. Valve fricked us and dumped us after pregnancy.
What now? Will you be selling yours, or coping?
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>Screwed over the artifact fan base
The entire 1 person fanbase
>seething at a bot
don't tell them
never stops being funny
ALL 3 PEOPLE?
Should be grounds for a lawsuit.
https://steamdeckhq.com/news/steam-deck-is-on-sale-for-steams-20th-anniversary/
They made zero mention that these were soon to be discontinued.
Go to bed tim
No frick you and frick that fat homosexual gaben
>tim mentioned
>daily steamie v epig thread
subledditors from /frickepic, say it with me!!
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>Should be grounds for a lawsuit.
Why? The current decks will still support future updates. Just because they're discontinued that doesn't affect the customer
>Just because they're discontinued that doesn't affect the customer
Consoleplebs do not understand this. To them it means the death of the system, no more games, services shutting down, dead online, the works.
How do we deal with paid shills pushing bullshit threads like this?
For real though
You can't exactly find their IP and visit them in person and even if you did you couldn't do it for every prostitute a company can hire to shill for or against something.
So what's a realistic scalable solution to this problem?
Jumping off a cliff. It solves every problem, every time.
>replies to obvious shill thread
You are part of the problem, become an hero.
the shills can't hurt you if you close your eyes
The draft
Calling them a homosexual and moving on with your life.
Kevin Smith would be bullied by that underage kid IRL
Every board needs Unique IDs then obvious shills can simply be blocked. Also Ganker would definitely benefit from a global hash you can block too.
>new gpu/cpu/ssd gets release every 1-2 years
>but it's bad when valve does it
>but it's bad when valve does it
yes,
so?
I'd be complaining about Nintendo if they went the smartphone model route.
let technology be constant without a need to exploit FOMO
I'm not buying a new phone every damned year
>NOOOO I GOTTA CONSOOOOOM
>WE SHOULD STILL BE ON WIN XP NOOOOO
>NOOOOO TECH SHOULDN'T UPDATE BECAUSE I'M WEAK WILLED b***h NOOOO
Sounds like a (You) issue lmao.
>I'm not buying a new phone every damned year
Then don't?
>NOOOO I GOTTA CONSOOOOOM
500 dollars for shit that wasn't said or implied
>WE SHOULD STILL BE ON WIN XP NOOOOO
are you moronic? technology advances I own a switch and a switch oled like I own a 3ds and n3dsxl
And 2dsxl
>NOOOOO TECH SHOULDN'T UPDATE BECAUSE I'M WEAK WILLED b***h NOOOO
1 year you idiot you're exactly who gets targeted by FOMO
weak willed morons think that they can act like idiots on Ganker
It's exactly looking like the Steam Deck now is a smartphone by the number of morons supporting this move to the annual refresh model.
>annual refresh
so you think we'll get another bigger battery and hall sticks in the next update in january 2025 before the release the deck2 in march 2025?
Don't insult haruhi by association with your terrible takes.
>Don't insult haruhi by association with your terrible takes.
my terrible takes?
you want Nintendo to release a new model of the switch every year?
I don't and I'll make sure that the industry doesn't go full smartphone model.
I don't care what nintendo does. I want good new hardware and I'll decide when to buy in to that good new hardware because I have self control.
I want to be able to trade in my 512 gb Steam Deck for the new 512gb oled version without paying extra.
Valve and Gabe have deep pockets and make so much money from steam alone. They don't need to nickel and dime steam deck users.
>I want to be able to trade in my 512 gb Steam Deck for the new 512gb oled version without paying extra.
This, or maybe $100 extra for the 1tb one
im not a huge steam zealot before some paki calls me a “steamie”, but the hardware in the “old” Steam Deck is still very good for what it is. i know it has downsides for sure, but on sale i find it very worth it. (and ofc getting into the whole linux frickery is it’s own entire thread so i wont even start that)
It's fine I'm literally just asspained because I feel cheated. Which I was. If they had said "hey these are getting discontinued soon please buy some on discount if you'd like but you can wait for an upcoming revision" that would've been more in line with how they usually do things but instead they deliberately cheated their customers.
I think having to learn Linux is a us. But that's more related to work benefits for me personally.
wtf bros, my Steam Deck told me that the oled exist so I can't use it anymore
did anyone else get this message?!?!
btw anyone know where I can return my $800 HTC Vive for the latest model of whatever improvements happened years later?
>Valve said deck 2 would be years away
Yes, this is not the deck 2.
Aside from the APU being the same (albeit smaller) all the improvements to the Deck OLED are what you would expect in a deck successor, not a mid gen refresh. Valve really outdid themselves.
The frick are you talking about? Nintendo did literally the same thing and it wasn't a "switch 2".
The whole internet groaned when it was discovered the Switch OLED wasn't a "pro" revision, and the Deck OLED is causing butthurt for much the same reason. It's a very good improvement, but performance wise it's identical, so it's hard to justify "upgrading" to it if you already have a deck.
Such a moronic homosexual
>better screen
>better battery
>better buttons
>better haptics
>better ram
>better APU
>better framerates
It is a Steam Deck 2.
>performance increase is literally marginal
>everything else is true
An average increase of 3 FPS is still better framerates
If you'd be happy to buy the next generation of hardware for a 3FPS increase then lmfao
It is still outperformed by a substantial amount by the 7840U/Z1E.
I would hope an APU with access to 65% more watts would perform vastly better.
They only changed the screen and battery, nothing significant has been changed about the Architecture besides using a 6 nm instead of a 7.
>better APU
It's literally the same exact architecture with a shrunken die. That just means better power efficiency. The marginal framerate gains you see in benchmarks are coming from the faster memory because APUs are memory hogs.
Steam Deck 2 will likely have RDNA 4. This shit is still RDNA 2.
They said a new deck was years away. This is a new deck. Stop reaching, it's embarrassing
>same underlying hardware
>new screen
>new battery
you don't call the oled switch the switch 2 do you?
Crazy thing is that this is not the first time Valve broke a promise
https://www.pcmag.com/news/valve-signals-next-gen-steam-deck-wont-arrive-for-another-2-years
fricking liars.
>Valve says that won't be significantly stronger deck for years
>they still haven't released significantly stronger deck
Where are lies?
sins other companies do:
>make their old games unplayable by shutting down servers
>strikes down fans of their games trying to make events or fan content
>buys a game, recreates it with microtransactions instead of mods, removes most references to original creator
>kernel level anti-cheat
sins valve does:
>releases a better version of their console
>gives up on a game the public wasn't interested in, but releases the unfinished beta for free anyway
>makes a drm platform (with drm that is trivial to bypass)
>charges 30%
>is a monopolly
>hires mostly White and Asian men
>hires asians
unforgivable. anyone who has worked with them knows they have no souls. I literally watched one get fired for being completely unreasonable towards people because he tried to put his chink attitude towards everyone
My best coworker is a Japanese middle aged guy that barely speaks my language but he gets the most work done and helps anyone and everyone that needs him.
sorry, I meant to say Chinese, it isn't common to see other asians unless you include brown asians like Indians and such
Fair enough, I haven't had the (dis)pleasure of dealing with the chinese people in the company yet but I haven't heard anything bad about them. Now indians are a very interesting deal.
>hires mostly White and Asian men
The HORROR
This is why Tim Sweeny is better, he hires many indian sirs to do the needful and tell peoples truth of bastard valves bloody benchod monopoly
Dont care if bait, kys
>Company charges for its service
Commies should face the wall
>charges 30%
the end user doesn't and shouldn't care about that, that's for the publishers to fight it out among themselves, but publishers are greedy and will want to get the biggest slice of the pie in any circumstance, even if the split were 20 or 15% games would still cost 70/80 bucks
>make their old games unplayable by shutting down servers
Good. Multiplayer only games aren't real video games and deserve to get deleted from history.
Also, if MMOgays can figure out how to have private servers then you should be able to do so as well. If your community can't figure it out then I guess the game wasn't really worth all that much after all.
it would be a lot easier for MMOgays to make private servers if the company tossed out some server binaries or code
>Good. Multiplayer only games aren't real video games and deserve to get deleted from history.
Seething shitter.
What valve is doing here isn't a "sin" that's just the propagandist OP trying to frame the discussion so that the arguments are about how bad valve is or whether valve is doing something wrong, rather than what it should be - good news that a new and better version of the product is coming out soon.
>complaining about hardware upgrades
Oh yeah this is a switch owner for sure LMAO
>Steam deck (original) is useless now
That happened as soon as chinks started sending out better handheld PCs, they already made the Steam Deck outdated, the only reason people keep pretending Steam Deck is the best option is because of brand recognition.
>is the best option is because of brand recognition.
No, it's because Steam Deck has the lowest cost of entry, long term software support, a nearly unmatched warranty, and a very console like experience. The OLED revision has invalidated every non-oled hanheld PC.
>a very console like experience.
>half the games don't even work without some frickery
lmao no
Half those games wont work on PC either
>its valves fault that the software they had 0 involvement in isnt working
>Half those games wont work on PC either
troonix cope
>lowest cost of entry
poorgay cope
>long term software support
irrelevant, learn how to use a PC
>a nearly unmatched warranty
also poorgay cope
>a very console like experience
exactly, it's for brand fanboy shitters
deck (original) is useless now
>That happened as soon as chinks started sending out better handheld PCs, they already made the steam deck outdated, the only reason people keep pretending Steam Deck is the best option is because of brand recognition.
The chink handhelds are only better by 25% or so. Maybe more when plugged in.
But for any given battery life, the Deck is equivalent. The Deck can run flat out in a AAA game for 3 hours. 3 hour battery life on a chink handheld would entail a lower TDP.
>yfw when you're a poorhomosexual
feels incredible not being duped into being a beta tester for a deck and VR
YOU'RE FRICKING POOR!
You’re the one that’s going to be destitute after buying 20 steam decks lmao
> poorgay seethe
>flexing about buying a budget gaming laptop without a keyboard
I upgraded the ram on mine for fun, since ram is cheap.
no you didn't you butthole
Yes I did. Valve even put the ram chips away from everything, to make it easier to remove them. You just need a hot air gun.
ok fair enough. but how the frick did you resolder a BGA chip with just a hot air gun?
The chips came "preballed".
OK I watched the video, and as I suspected, you don't need
"just a hot air gun"
you need
>a preheater
>a decent horizontal vice with soft teeth
>a variable temperature soldering iron
>flux
>solder wick
>anti static tweezers
>and a hot air gun
and the actual skill to do it.
are you trying to get people to brick their decks?
that is not a job for an amateur.
I still think you're lying because anyone with that setup wouldn't go around telling people they "just used a hot air gun"
Worked for me, bro. All that shit makes it easier. I just used a hot air gun, and some flux.
ohhh... so you used some flux now did you?
anything else you forgot to mention?
becasue if you really resoldered a BGA chip with just some flux and a hot air gun you are incredibly lucky it still works. and you will be extremely lucky if it doesn't stop working at some point after it's gone through enough bumps and temperature cycles.
Why is people so buthurt? It's just a new model, doesn't even i.prove performance. Are really people so far in the consoom loop as to buy every new shit that comes out just for the sake of it?
WE CANT REPLACE THE OLD SCREEN WITH THE NEW ONE
IT'S LITERALLY STUPIDITY THAT YOU SHAFT US THIS HARD ON THE SCREEN QUALITY AND INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON RELEASING AN OLED SCREEN YOU MAKE A WHOLE NEW HANDHELD FOR IT.
dude your old Deck works just fine. How is your life made worse by Valve making their products better?
It gives me intense fomo and now every time I play my deck I'll realize I'm only having half the amount of fun I could be having unless I consoooom
People aren't generally butthurt, OP is just mentally ill and wants to pretend like this feeling is widespread
Go on Reddit and pretty much every homosexual there is seething and coping hard about the revision. It's hilarious.
To be fair, Valve pulled a pretty shit sneaky one by delaying an announcement until the very launch of the device.
People just don't pay attention, it started showing up in commits to the Linux kernel a while back, and Linux gaming sites reported on it then even if they didn't have all the information. Everybody has been talking about new Valve hardware, at least in Linux circles.
With the fact they are still producing the 256GB Deck LCD to have more volume production my expectation is a 5 or 6 year lifecycle for the Deck 1.
If they stick with this and announce the Deck 2 at the end of 2024 they'll keep a Deck 1 OLED in production for the same reason.
>Go on Reddit
Never ever.
>He fell for the Deck meme
>He fell for the portable PC meme
Don't tell me you also bought PS5
There's nothing better than playing VNs and emulating JRPGs in bed on my deck
>wasting $500 for that
Bruh even Steam link is less of a meme
Nah streaming is aids and implies my PC has to be running
>caring about this when you play VNs and JRPGs
Stop embarassing yourself
? I like being able to play no matter what's happening (PC off, network down, out of town, whatever the situation may be) and steam decks are not particularly expensive.
>oh no my pc is off, only the deck can save me
How did PCgays deal with this situation before?
The meme was also to own a PC and Nintendo consoles to cover all bases. Handhelds existed prior to handheld PCs. Also people would play shit on their laptops which is fricking awful and essentially is just a bad version of the handheld PC experience.
>Streaming games
>Not a meme
Real steam fans knew the insider knowledge 2 months in advance
Why do people like these crude mockeries of man again? Is it for the same reason people like ugly plastic bimbos like Kim Kardashian? It's weird how people are attracted to freaks of nature and think that they look good.
> still not available in your country
Don't worry I'm going to sue the gay ben. He won't get away with this.
>What now? Will you be selling yours, or coping?
I'm just gonna cope until the actual Deck 2 comes out
>Screwed over the artifact fan base
bro you're unrelenting. I actually respect it
how would I be betrayed? we already got some good 'ecks on our 'icks
Wii U called.
This isn't Steam Deck 2 moron.
It's a refresh of the original.
Buying a new one. You don't see threads when nintendo does it.
I still own my OG Switch, because it's hacked, and I don't feel like soldering a chip to the OLED Switch. I won't replace my Steam Deck for an OLED one. A prettier screen isn't worth it, all my phones are OLED, so I seen an OLED screen before. The difference isn't an SD to HDTV night and day difference.
Considering how customizable Steamdeck is, wouldn't it be possible to add the new battery and oled screen ourselves?
Or is the Oled Steamdeck build different enough where it isn't possible?
Isn't the battery glued?
Also with what are you gonna replace the battery, a cheap chinese battery that could fry a whole deck?
The OLED screen is bigger than the LCD screen, so unless you want to use a Dremel...
You can replace the screen. The battery is a custom fit to maximize space, but maybe that could be replaced too, not sure how easy it'd be to find the right shape.
>implying 20 years from now OG decks won't be worth like 100 times more
there's a reddit post from a valve employee saying that a trade in option is coming in the near future
No, there's a post of an employee saying "no plans at the moment"
What? Tendies always buy the first version
The buy scalpbait garbage with mere decals over and over again too. But valve makes what reviewers like digital foundry are calling the best midlife refresh they've ever seen and that's suddenly grounds for a lawsuit and a betrayal to fans.
""""""""""""""""""""""""'reviewers"""""""""""""""""""""""""""'' like digital foundry*
still love my original deck never cared about screen it works for what it is, the bigger battery is neat but 10mah ? whats that like an extra 20min? oooh aaah i play tethered at home anyway and most of you will too i bet
The original deck is just fine
you can do better than that anon
>every 'eckgay asked for OLED, bigger battery
>Gaben listens to it and gives new revision with OLED, bigger battery, improved node and other bugs fixed
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS BETRAYAL
Sounds more like psy-op by media to create fake outrage
>improved node
Not even 4nm which is standard today.
It was pretty funny how Valve said they weren't going to make an OLED model like 8 months ago and then decided to make an OLED model
>millions of contrarians cry about not buying a deck because "no OLED no buy"
>valve release an OLED model
>WTF VALVE WHY DID YOU GIVE US WHAT WE ASKED FOR??? not buying!
never satisfied you c**ts.
I’m laughing at beta testers and will be buying my first Steam deck next Thursday. Thank god I didn’t fall for the fomo. My friend was shilling me hard to buy a Deck this past January
I got mine from the first wave so its been nearly 2 years at this point a new steam deck is fine.
I dont know if I should buy this one or wait for deck 2
It made more sense to buy a cheap first gen deck, you would have got about 4 years of use out of it for a bit cheaper. Buying a 550 dollar system that will be completely outdated in 2 years feels a bit shit
im still gaming on my ds(i), being "completely outdated" means frick all, good games are still good 15 years later. i care more about the upgrades to battery life and the screen than if it can run the latest aaa game i have no interest in playing anyway.
Doesn't have anything to do with AAA slop, it's more about Xbox, 360, PS3 emulation and the few good games from last gen.
its strong enough to eun demons souls on rpcs3 and you can run rdr1 on yuzu, what else is there from the ps3/x360 gen that you really need on the deck?
New Vegas
Black person you can run it just fine on the 'eck.
Good. I needed something to do at work.
If you can only think of 2 games from the entire Xbox, Xbox 360 and PS3 lineup you want to play that's a personal issue, I don't even know why you're buying a deck since your severely restricted gaming needs are probably already covered by a switch.
performance wise the current deck serves my needs just fine, i just wanted a better screen and longer battery and it seems valve more or less read my mind.
>switch
yeah right. i want to access to all games made till the early 2010s or so, not the tiny list of ports the switch has.
Since you only want to play red dead and demons souls from that entire generation I'm assuming you have like 5 games throughout the entire history of videogames you want to play.
Why so combative? I like a lot of games, I just can't think of many console exclusives from the ps3 or x360 worth remembering.
There's so many I wouldn't know where to begin. On Xbox og alone there's panzer dragoon orta, JSRF, gunvalkyrie, ninja gaiden black and steel battalion (if they ever fix the emulation). From the 360 and PS3 there's ace combat 6, ridge Racer 7, pgr 4, mgs 4, lost odyssey, the puppeteer, folklore, gow 3, viva pinata, og ninja gaiden 2, ex troopers, sengoku Basra 4, and a bunch of other random shit I want to play.
Also tales of graces f, xillia games, ar tonelico 3
You are still a beta tester.
People buying deck 2 in 2 years are going to be laughing at your souped up prototype.
deck (original) is useless now
Damn that's kinda crazy how valve remotely disabled the existing steam decks after announcing the oled version
If improvements come out I'll just wait for Deck Ultimate and stick with the one I have until then.
Got a gaming laptop I bring with me everywhere that can do 1000x more than shitdeck can
why do zoomers need constamt drama?
Valve made a console for the PC masses and people are surprised. It is actually even worse than a console, because on the Switch you are at least guaranteed to be able to play new games in an acceptable (your definition may vary) manner. There are no guarantees on the deck, devs are not forced to optimize any of their games which means in general you are stuck with old games (with bad performance) and indies. Basically the crowd who was always proud about being able to play any game in high fidelity and resolution is proudly playing 360p upscaled games in sub 30fps with an unoptimized controls scheme and UI.
Releasing a new model with a slightly better performance will cement this, everyone will test/show the new games on the Oled and the base model will perform abysmal compared to that.
>the base model will perform abysmal compared to that.
nice fantasy
That's not a Steam Deck 2, it's a Steam Deck with a better panel.
>Steam deck (original) is useless now
Whoa, are you fricking kidding me? My steam deck won't be able to play games any more? Are you fricking serious Valve???
>deck shitted and flopped extremely badly as frick
many people saying this
friendly reminder that if you buy the oled screen with anti-glare you are a giga fricking mongoloid moron Black person and are defeating the point of the device entirely
yeah really. don't getone. you need a screen protector anyway, so just pick an anti glare screen protector if you want that.
and the etched coating will frick up the screen protectors anyway.
>etched coating
Coating on the Deck glass itself? What is this for?
it scatters reflections so you can still see when there's bright light sources around. almost every modern LCD panel has a layer of it on top. a layer though. not etched into the glass itself.
What OLED model are you getting? Is the etched glass 1tb to be avoided?
I'm not. I have an OG 256GB model and I have no issues with the screen. I'm sure the OLED is a lot better but it's not like i'm watching kino on it or playing AAA games. it's just a really neat little portable PC.
Convince me why I should get the original Steam Deck and not this version then
no get the OLED. don't get the anti-glare screen
i'm pissed off the limited edition version has the antiglare. i'd rather have my pristine colors.
the frick are you talking about moron
you are a gorilla moron
So what your saying is I should just get the 512 then? That’s not etched right?
the non-etched screen was better on the LCD version as well if you really care about the best display
and you have the option of choosing to put your own protector on which the etched version does not
the top tier model is literally just bait for morons who are afraid of short circuiting their deck when they could easily buy a 2TB internal with the cost differential
wait, why is the top model anti glare bad in comparison to the 512 GB one?
Does the anti-glare ruin the OLED?
Just put a screen protector on it and get the glossiness back? I unironically want the better case from the 1TB model.
>Just put a screen protector on it and get the glossiness back? I unironically want the better case from the 1TB model.
I dunno man, I think that's trying to be too clever. Also wouldn't gloss on top of etched, impair the quality? I bet you'll be able to get that case used, or a thirdparty clone, or Valve will sell it.
Won't the anti-glare screen only have compromised colors when there is visible glare/light on the screen? Surely It won't matter when you're in the dark or a reasonably lit room with no glare anyway, right?
no. the diffusion works both ways. you can't use a glossy screen for example in an office space with UV lighting everywhere because there will be white bars all over your screen wheverever you go. but the anti-glare will always lower the percieved brightness and soften the image, no matter the lightin situation. it's actually quite nice if you like that sort of thing, the point is you can't un-etch a screen, whereas you can just can just an anti-glare screen protector over a glossy screen for the same effect. and putting anything over an already etched screen will give you nasty parallax effects.
>unetch
you can't unetch it, but you can kind of work around it in the same manner that a cpu cooler uses thermal paste to fill the gap.
>but the anti-glare will always lower the percieved brightness and soften the image, no matter the lightin situation.
rip, I really like the anti-glare on my LCD model but I'm having a tough time deciding which to look at for the OLED.
>whereas you can just can just an anti-glare screen protector over a glossy screen
I've heard most anti-glare protectors are utter trash but I've never used one.
Same. I can’t fricking decide which one, but I know full well I just need to see them both in person and I’ll know instantly.
Suppose I could just order the etched and return it should I not like it.
steamieshit slopper dumbfricks unironically paying $100 more for an inferior product
>intentionally ignores the very next sentence where he says that a screen protector fixes that
>ignoring the fact that you can replace the screen with the non-anti-glare one
>ignoring the fact that some people would actually prefer to sacrifice a bit of colour accuracy for an anti-glare screen
If you were willing to put a screen protector on it anyway then buy a fricking 10 dollar matte screen protector if that's what you want.
>Trusting valve
>specs are largely the same
I sleep. Contact me when you have Zen 5 then I'll come back.
explain to me why HDR isn't a meme
can't
especially on a handheld
>mention a few months back that I would love a deck but that it made sense to wait because it's been 2 years and it's only natural that a new model will come out
>met with seethers claiming it would be 5-7 more years
>they swore they wouldn't want to devalue a system and be unable to sell them
>a device that has been clearly made to order since the beginning.
and yet everyone says how consumer friendly valve is...
They had no coice but to revise it. SD was getting its ass kicked by newer PC handhelds.
Valve said this is the first Deck iteration they always wanted to release. The OLED screen was something they approached manufacturers with but didn't have the initial sway (ie. mass market interest) to get it through. So they let the LCD hit first, manufacturers saw the huge demand and fanfare it got, and now Valve had the leverage to get the OLED screens produced at large quantities.
Additionally, supply lines and manufacturer availability are also influenced by competitors. The Switch OLED pushed created an opportunity for manufacturers to further expand into the handheld space which gave Valve the opportunity to squeeze in their own Deck OLED order as well.
The problem it seems that valve is heading towards a yearly product model whereas Nintendo seems to be biannual between models
though it must be stated that the smartphone model isn't technically bad but there's no evolution of the design vs the 2 year model because you can redesign the model after taking some degree of criticism.
The oled deck is seen as what should have been sold a year ago.
up to this point Nintendo hasn't ever used a oled screen for their own consoles
imho the design of the deck's shell is about the best you could get. I say this as a person who doesn't own one nor particularly want one but:
>good ergonomics
>haptic touchpads
>front facing speakers
>solution to the symmetric/asymmetric controller argument
Aside from being xboxhueg there's no downsides to it
it's very fragile. I like it but I felt really anxious holding it so I got a polyurethane shell case for it. now it's good and chonky and doesn't feel like it will shatter into a million pieces if I drop it. And it's easy to drop because it's not something you should pick up with one hand, even though it SHOULD be.
I really want some sort of zero-g arm type thing to exist, the few times I've used used a handheld device for more than a couple hours I always find myself wanting to one hand it for short bursts or be able to sip on my drink without putting it down first.
Valve is a multi-billion dollar corporation. Surely they can afford a simple OLED screen, which is standard in all smartphones these days.
They can afford it. Could you? You wanted to shell out $800 or $900 for an oled version? They did what they did to get as most bang for their buck for the price at the time as possible. Not rocket science. Things improve and the cost of production goes down.
They can afford it yes. But the big manufactures want high production numbers before they even consider making the screen.
I complained about the revamp price to valve since I got mine recently and they refunded the difference to my steam wallet.
>years between normal and OLED model
>betrayal
LMAO, TENDIE, JUST FRICKING STOP, BWHAHAHAHAHHAHA
OLED is a scam.
Don’t buy any device with OLED.
Companies should spend the money they earned on R&D for CRT-like motion TVs rather than advertisements for dick cutting trannies.
I still can't
because i live in Australia
I'll keep playing my switch
why do you morons keep saying this? there's literally over a hundred different places selling them. I got mine for $750 dollarydoos, from dick smith, with a dick smith warranty. months ago.
i miss the schizo that would post the webm of the oled switch next to the LCD deck with the honey
I wonder what he's thinking now
steamies be like
ayo 3 frames? you know i gots 679.99 USD.
3 more frames than the entire switch library combined.
*gabensemen slopper literally killing himself when trying to emulate bayonetta 3 on deck*
KEK!
*win silicon lottery*
*can undervolt device to -50*
le steam switch 2 bruvvers!!
>Not even Nintendo was this bad, had years between normal and OLED model
nintendo switch
base 2017
lite/v2 2019
oled 2021
steam deck
base 2022
oled 2023
I mean yeah
>has all the best games and sold 132 million units
>shitted and flopped extremely badly as frick and sold less units than the NGage and literal cardboard (LABO) from nintendo
...what does that have to do with what that anon said?
Then Fifa is the greatest game of all time then. God you tendies are so moronic
>has all the best games
the deck?
>Will you be selling yours, or coping?
who would buy the old one now? i got the most expensive one at launch and I do feel cucked, especially since the SD slot doesn't work and I never bothered to get it fixed because it's such a fricking hassle. frick this piece of shit company for real
>who would buy the old one now?
People who want the best handheld on the market for $200-$250.
>handheld
absurdly valuable PC for that price range as well
OG deck is going to be raspberry pie tier very soon
i short circuited my steam deck when replacing the ssd
it is not a repair friendly device
yes it is you're just an idiot who can't follow instructions. many such cases.
>don't set device to battery replace mode
>don't disconnect the battery
>don't use proper precautions against static
the problem is you, dude.
the only non-user friendly things on the deck are the shitty case screws.
so i just bought these for my nonoled eck anyone else have XR glasses?
getitng ready to sell mine but only if I can manage to secure an oled
stop buying the refurb 64s you Black folk
i wanted a couple
Jesus, the switch troons are MAAAD that valve is releasing a refresh of the deck without israeliteing out like Nintendo
more like this is the device valve should have shipped day 0 and literally could have but were incompetent israelites who wanted to milk the goys for 2 years on an EA device
>still runs linooox
>still lower DPI than an iphone from 10+ years ago
>still oversized and has shit performance
yeah, no
At least Nintendo didn't pull any Sega Saturn surprise launch bullshit with their OLED.
>HDR didn't exist in the Linux space
>valve implements HDR for a linux-based console without an HDR screen
>didn't expect a screen revision
after a year? come on now.
is the steam deck now a smartphone?
Funny that it costs significantly less than one.
So is this what were doing for the next, eh, week and a half-ish?
People are going to pretend they owned a deck and make reddit karma farming threads even though that's not how this website works?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>we
I actually intentionally fricked up so you'd look silly.
There's no we in my post
Are you one of those things that call hardware like this dead if nobody else buys it
deck sure fricking sucks shit
just buy a laptop
>page 10
>1/3rd of the posts are the same homosexuals
yep, another flopped and shitted moment from the false flagging deck troonies
I already found someone gonna buy my 512gb for 300 bucks. Used it for almost a year.
Gonna get the mid tier OLED. Hope Steam store doesnt shit itself.
>Hope Steam store doesnt shit itself
lol it almost certainly will. Be there right when it goes up and just pray you can get it through and don't have to sit there for an hour. Hopefully valve is prepared for demand this time, but who knows.
The deck 2 is years away. Your current deck will still do everything it was doing before. Valve are not going to pull an Apple and slow your deck down.
Why are you so butthurt? Mod your current deck if you care that much.
I told those tards a superior version would come out soon
There was always going to be new models, be glad it wasn't a gpu upgrade.
Bought mine 2 week ago, received it yesterday.
Frick Valve buttholes, returning it as defected.
I barely even play my Steam Deck and ill be buying the OLED one.
How far do you think values of used LCD models will tank?
probably a lot initially, but price/performance wise they're still insanely good value compared to things like NUCS, so once the people who buy those catch on, they will probably raise in price again. to whatever a mid-range NUC costs. which is ~$500
Why are you being a b***h ?
Just wait for Steam Deck 2 you reatard
PC is obsolete the moment you order it, this is nothing new.. Are those posts made by console friends?
yes
Thanks for beta testing the prototype 'eck 'ucks
Valve directly funds ruzzian invasion of Ukraine allowing Qiwi Russia to be used as payment method
>Valve directly funds ruzzian invasion of Ukraine allowing Qiwi Russia to be used as payment method
so does cryptocurrency held by Moscow
ps portal is releasing in 4 days if you are wondering why there is increase of shitposting about steam deck
my phone has better functionally than the PlayStation portal
Steam deck has been for sale for like 2 years.
Wtf do these dumb homosexuals what?
If you want more money from your resales then find some sad frick living in areas where Valve doesn't sell the Deck.
I got to sell my 256 one decently enough when I found some dude in Singapore that wanted one and I sold it to him for less than if he imported it from HK/Japan.
Um, yeah. I'm thinking it's Ayaneo 2 time bros. Steam Deck is DONE.
>Um, yeah. I'm thinking it's Ayaneo 2 time bros. Steam Deck is DONE.
only the Chinese brands like GPD who try unique things, will survive
Steam Deck owners can't afford this, bro. It's literally a gaming laptop for poorgays.
Is that the 7840U version? Be careful you don't end up buying the 6800U version.
I'd get the Lenovo Legion GO over that.
speaking of chink shit
RIP Loki Zero
even on sale it's not worth getting one when a base refurbished Deck costs 299 and they're going for even lower on ebay
Where are the trackpads? Where are the back buttons?
eventually I will have purchased a deck for every chair/couch/toilet in my house
Steam deck will become obsolete if it can't lauch Dragon's Dogma 2 with stable 30 FPS. If it can, I'm buying it - the older games seem to work well on it, and I don't give a shit about nu-AAA slop.
I own an LCD deck and don't feel remotely betrayed. If anything I'm happy they aren't gimping the original so soon by adding a brand new RDNA chip (they added a more efficient one but it's not more powerful).
FRICK I want the limited edition one so badly. Why does Gabe have to cuck those not inside the US/Canada.
Might have to see if there's a good third party backplate copy.
>steam deck
kek just by a gaming laptop
Unironically this. At least it will come with a keyboard so you can shill about it on Ganker.
>FRICK I want the limited edition one so badly. Why does Gabe have to cuck those not inside the US/Canada.
The king is still not dethroned.
>BETRAYAL
You bought a product from a company, stfu.
>buying anything Valve hardware
when will you learn
Can't believe people are willing to pay $500-600 for a SD. It is so decisively outperformed by the recent PC handhelds. The Steam Deck was necessary to get other handheld manufacturers to straighten the frick up. Now there is no need for it.
>to get other handheld manufacturers to straighten the frick up
They never straightened the frick up, they're still doing the same damn thing they've been doing all along, shoving out a windows handheld thinking raw specs are all that matters.
There are plenty of handhelds out there way better than SD if you're willing to just pay a few hundred bucks more. Linux OS is trash. 7' display is trash. Van Gogh APU is trash. Cooling is trash. The Lenovo Legion GO just came out and demolishes Deck in just about everything. Hopefully ASUS also revises Ally soon with a proper big battery. It is bound to launch soon.
>Linux OS is trash.
Frick you, Winjeet. India is trash.
>
>his name is Rakshit Raj
unreal
How do you even pronounce it?
>thinking raw specs are all that matters.
Having 100% more performance for the same battery life does matter. It is the difference playing recent games at 20 fps vs 40 fps.
>for the same battery life
Ha
This.
At the point you're scraping by 20 fps at 200p from how shit you're undervolting it then don't even bother.
The goydeck is useful for trannies that only play indieshit and nothing else.
Telling that none of the benchmarks you're posting go below 15W TDP. The Steam Deck is still the only PC handheld that can manage great performance at lower power draw. The Legion Go or the ROG Ally, for example, are useful if you're planning to keep the thing plugged into the wall 24/7, but otherwise they're complete failures as dedicated handhelds. The user experience with the software is especially atrocious.
Even at 15W, Steam Deck's performance is vastly underwhelming. If you intend to just use it as an indie device, then you can find even cheaper handhelds out there.
I have a 7840U handheld. I emulate Yuzu at 12W and the performance is great in the games I throw at it. That's 5 hours of battery life.
And at 12W the Steam Deck will outperform your APU. The point I'm making is you don't need to max out at 15W for the Deck because it can outperform the Legion Go and the Ally at lower power draw. Pic related is what I'm talking about. You can absolutely hit higher benchmarks with the Ally or Legion Go, but only if you give up on having any decent battery life. This data is also with the LCD Deck, not the new 6nm die.
But why would I want to play games at 4W TDP? My handheld has a 65Wh battery. There is literally never any point for me to go below 12W. And that's the line where 7840U crosses. I use 12-15W TDP for light weight gaming and I use 20W for heavy gaming. Both scenarios give me a bettery battery than SD does. See
If you can hit your performance target at half the wattage, why wouldn't you? Playing the AOKZOE A1 Pro at 20W reported TDP will apparently give you just over 2 hours according to the image you posted. That's not good battery life at all.
>Playing the AOKZOE A1 Pro at 20W reported TDP will apparently give you just over 2 hours according to the image you posted.
That's way longer than you get with Steam Deck at only 15W. Which has up to this point given you just 1h30m of battery life.
So it is a poorly constructed device that can't run at its intended TPD without the battery choking in sub 2 hours and fans going so loud they give you tinnitus. I have never had issues with low watt performance on my A1 Pro. Even at 10W, I get a battery that lasts me countless hours and completely silent fans. At 20W, I get 100% over SD and still with longer battery life.
>That's way longer than you get with Steam Deck at only 15W
No one uses the 'eck at 15W unless they're forced to, so these comparisons are fake and gay from the start. The deck is a low power device. When I can run shit like MH:R at 40hz, native res, mediums while pulling only 6W on the APU, 11W total power, benches should be comparing against that kind of TDP but they almost never do. Sometimes you see 9W/11W TDP but almost always they just max the frick out of the deck at 15W where it has diminishing returns and call it a day. You can already see based on a graph like this
that there is never any point going beyond 11W unless the game is so intense you just can't run it otherwise.
Rise is an exceptional odd case due to it being a Switch port using RE Engine. Good luck getting playable frames on something like MH World at mere 6W TDP. On the absolute most games, those are unplayable wattages.
The reason why the Van Gogh hits diminishing returns past 13W is due to it being core and CU starved. The 7840U meanwhile hits diminishing returns past 18-20W due to it having more cores and CUs to up clock. I just don't see how anyone is playing modern games on SD below 10W TDP.
>Rise is an exceptional odd case due to it being a Switch port using RE Engine
All RE engine games run great though. It's not exclusive to Rise. RE2make with a couple of lighting settings tweaked is going to run just as well. Yeah, a game like World that was notorious for running like shit on release isn't going to run as well.
>I just don't see how anyone is playing modern games on SD below 10W TDP.
It would depend on your definition of modern. If you mean a piece of shit like starfield or cities skylines 2 then yeah, it's fricked.
>But why would I want to play games at 4W TDP?
>deck can play a 2d game at 60fps for 6h
>chink shit would need to be at 15w to get 60fps on a 2d game and lest less time
>steam deck is 400$ chink shit is 1500$
extra hard choice here
Thanks for proving goydeck users only play 2D pixelshit you could run on a phone.
>but they can run on phones!!!!
cool, show me a phone running Noita
oh right, phones don't have good games only gacha cashgrabs
and I can still play plenty of 3D games on my deck while running lower TDP than your chink shit
Sorry, I conflated the 7840U with the Legion Go and the Ally. Here's a benchmark showing the Deck vs. the 7840U specifically, and it also runs it on the native OS as well as Windows. You can see the significant performance gains with a lower TDP.
Also forgot to add, the only reason why Van Gogh is so performant at low TDPs isn't magic. It's simply because its CPU is core starved which means it can sooner reach the bare minimum CPU clocks before the 7840U devices.
>steamgoys are unironically bragging about being CPU bottlenecked
It really doesn't matter what the reason is. The Steam Deck outperforms more "performant" devices at lower TDPs which results in significant real-world gains. The new OLED revision is even more power efficient, too.
I don't think you understand anything that I'm telling you, and I can only believe you're choosing to be purposefully ignorant since you sunk four figures into an inferior device. The Steam Deck, especially with the new mid-gen refresh, is a significantly better actual handheld because it targets efficiency rather than power. You're not going to experience "problems" at 10W, but it will perform objectively worse despite costing more than double the price. The Steam Deck, objectively, can match or exceed the performance of your device at lower power draw and with greater efficiency. You also spent over a grand on a handheld that doesn't even have an OLED display which is pretty nuts.
And like I told you, the only reason that happens is because its CPU is a joke and can reach sufficient clock speeds at very low TDPs. What you gain in low watt perf, you lose in CPU heavy scenarios such as emulation and more modern games.
See what a joke its CPU is when pushed. By the way, I don't know why you're shilling this as a 10W device so much. My handheld works just fine at 20W. And I get good performance even with modern games. SD is just outdated. And as you imply, only good for light weight gaming.
I've already told you the myriad reasons why your device fundamentally fails as a handheld. The only person you're still trying to convince is yourself since you're the dude who wasted four figures on chinkshit.
Also:
>IPS
>no trackpads
>no back buttons
>Windows
I'm sorry you blew out your wallet, man, but that isn't my fault.
And I've already explained to you the only reason why SD is decent at low watts is due to a pitiful Zen2 4c CPU which shits all over itself the moment it's stressed
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Enjoy not being able to emulate recent consoles or play recent games or basically do anything that isn't indieslop or PS3 ports.
Indie>AAA.
>ROG Ally lasts as long as LCD Deck at 15w, even less if you go over
>can't compete with deck on anything under 10w
>OLED Deck last some 30% longer in battery
>performs even better than old Deck
>is now quiet
>costs 200$ less
>actually supported by producer
>doesn't kill SD cards
you're a braindead moron if you buy anything else
How does 'ick on 'eck bro feel about this?
Facts.
But it's just a PC
this homie got clowned on so hard he deleted lmfao
It was probably the janitors that deleted it.
lmao shills are out of the woodwork again.
All these other manufacturers are fricking morons for falling for the OHMYGOD NEW SPECS BIGGER NUMBER meme.
It's incredible that Valve actually understood the assignment and didn't put in some dogshit high TDP chip into the OLED for muh gains.
5-13W range is the ideal range for gayman handhelds. And with the redresh the OLED pretty much completely MOGS every other PC handheld battery-wise. It actually has handheld-tier battery lengths now than the other glorified laptops. And the OLED HDR is just the cherry on top.
Why would someone even want to play PC games on a handheld? PC gaming is all about that good ol' Mouse & Keyboard and not some fricking console peasant controller shit
"useless" alright you mindless consumer that feels stepped on with even the most minor inconvenience
>please ignore valve lied about no goydeck upgrades and the fact they had a massive sale right before this
please post the quote where they said that
Here's your PS3 emulation bro
Will deck 2 even be able to handle PS3 emulation?
deck 1 already does, it just depends on the game
Nah not really, the fact that it can almost run a couple games isn't really what anyone is looking for
>almost
>120fps Demon's Souls
Black person, it is running that game 4x over.
There are people in the comments of that very video saying the game runs like shit outside the tutorial. I have a deck and have fricked around with PS3 emulation, it's total shit beyond a tiny minority of games.
>All devices with Windows 11
That's a bit unfair, although looking at SteamOS footage it doesn't seem that much better.
I would assume so.
>my Deck is now a collectors item and I can sell it and get 20 OLEDs
>still 6nm Zen 2 RDNA2 when all the recent handhelds are 4nm Zen 4 RDNA3
This is such a blunder. Literally just buy a used PC handheld with the 4nm chip instead. You get so much more performance for the money.
>better battery life
>oled screen
>bigger screen
Why didn't they put a better gpu in it?
They are cheap. And also why did they go for just 7,4' and not a full 8' display? The Legion Go is as big and has a 8,8' display.
they've said it earlier in pretty clear words. there are no significant gains to be made without sacrifocing on efficiency until something much better comes out years from now with ddr6. pointlessly chasing nore performance at the cost of battery life like the competitors is moronic. i want the deck to actually be portable.
rdna3 apus aren't a significant upgrade from rdna2
Why would you lie like that?
Look at the TDP. The only gains to be made are at higher power draws which is counterintuitive to the design philosophy of a handheld unless you're making a damn Game Gear.
20W for most PC handhelds give same battery life as SD at 15W. So it's a legitimate comparison. Even the tiny OneXfly has a 50Wh battery.
This might be the most moronic statement I've seen in this entire thread.
How does it feel the SD battery life is a complete joke at 15W and even lower than many 7840U devices at 15W?
How many hours have you been in this thread trying to justify your purchase of some $1400 chinkshit? I'm starting to suspect you are actually a paid marketer, especially given the fact that you're clearly ESL.
Just stop posting mate
I run mine at ~8w where it absolutely destroys all the competition
>unless you're making a damn Game Gear.
Now that's ironic
Shit how well does BG3 run/work on the deck? Hadn’t even thought to try.
>compares 15W to 20W
Off yourself moron
ser
>be me
>haven't played video games since putting a few hundred hours into Witcher 3 and a few thousand hours into Gulf Wars 1
>want to get back into it
>see they're releasing a new OLED Steam Deck
>see you can get a factory refurbished 512gb original for $360
>get the refurb, have no negative feelings on not having OLED
It really is that simple to just not be upset at things.
>pretty much resolved every problem i had with the original eck
>best screen and battery life across the entire pc handheld industry so far
>software steamos is leagues ahead of where it was initially
shit lads thanks for betatesting
this is an easy buy for me at this point
it was an easy buy already before
it's just an even easier buy now
>people are surprised PC hardware advances faster than console hardware
who woulda thunk it
So, how much better is SteamOS compared to Windows?
on a handheld PC, tons
For a dedicated handheld gaming device it is a significant improvement. It's like the difference between booting up an Xbox vs. turning on your PC and opening up the Xbox app while having all the Windows bloat still open in the background.
The only difference is if the game you play has an extensive anti-cheat like CoD then it will only work on Windows and the same goes for Game Pass games.
Other PC handhelds are all just trying to cover up the OS with wrappers that trick you into thinking you're playing on something like Steam OS, but they're pretty shit.
god that controller layout is SO fricking moronic, holy christ, why do subhumans pay 700 dollars for that ugly ass asymmetrical layout? I literally don't understand
>abandons dota 2 x86
>stops w7 support
shite company
The old model is still supported why the sudden butthurt over them updating to OLED?
consoomers too used to getting a new iphone every year b***hing and moaning that this isn't a real upgrade
if it where up to them the Deck would be like laptops
new models every year just with a shitty new gen i5 that performs the same as before
>discountinued the cheapest model
Its ogre. At the $700 price range SD has competition. It was only at the $400 mark where SD value was simply unmatched.
Valve kept $400 model, but it doesn't get all the new features including OLED screen
256GB LCDeck is the new $400 Deck
Oh neat, the base model was a fantastic option for me since I only ever intended to play old/indie games on mine, and spending the extra money just didn't make sense.
Glad they kept the option, at $400 there is nil competition on the market.
anon, if you buy refurbished FROM valve directly it's 279$
>refurbished
No thanks, it could have been had the 'ick on 'eck and you'd never know.
they are cleaned properly
>and you'd never know.
so what's the issue?
which frankly it's as scummy as it gets when the original screen is absolute ass
>700$
the competition either kills SD cards, is unsupported by maker, definitely doesn't have 1TB of storage and lasts less time on battery life
I'm genuinely surprised Valve even sneaked in HDR in there. And they got it to work consistently.
My head fricking hurts on windows with that feature on some games.
Yeah, I couldn't imagine what a fricking nightmare putting HDR on a Windows handheld would be. Just using it on my desktop is a pain in the ass.
valve software engineers are seriously wizards with how proton and everything is developing
just mogs all other handhelds in my eyes
>she trusts Valve in current year
It's almost as if the 5 or something live service games they made and abandoned or ruined the last couple of years could give you some clue about the promises of Valve
I got my new steam deck literally last week, I'm so mad that I could have waited a bit longer and got an OLED
If you ordered straight from Valve then just return it. You have a 2 week return window from delivery.
I'm strongly considering that at this point
You should, the base deck is so bad compared to this new one
You should. Not because the LCD Deck is bad but because of the significant price drop for the model you ordered. If you don't want the headache you can petition Steam support for a partial refund for the price difference between when you bought it and now. At the very least do that.
thank you, done
I like the deck but there's absolutely no reason to stay fricked in the ass like this
200+ posts and not one person commenting on how you can literally upgrade the steam deck with an oled screen. I feel like no one likes to tinker anymore.
You cant
while I give you it would look like shit a breakout board with a eDP to MIPI adapter using a samsung AMS767KC06 oled screen might be possible. The problem here is the size (thickness) and this does nothing for battery life. Might be able to 3d print a new case.
>projecting
never say never. give it time and somebody will hack at it. deck community is unparalleled
you can't. the entire interior of the deck oled was redesigned and u cant even fit the new 50w battery in the old LCDeck
moron
i didnt buy the original so ill be buying an oled its now the perfect handheld
thanks for beta testing cucks
you're welcome have a great time
over the artifact fan base
beta testing is the new deck meme
ur a bunch of betas
>people are still buying n-gage tier products
you will never learn
okay boomer
>he had to look it up
ok zoomer
The N-gage had nowhere near the same library of games available for it. In fact I can’t recall a single N-gage game.
it had some kino like a great thps port, worms armageddon, even mgs, splinter cell and elder scrolls got releases. dont get me wrong it was a piece of shit but its still funny how even the ngage had more exclusives than the PS5.
I remember having to take the thing apart to change games, and wasn’t it awful as a phone?
yeah it was terrible.
>exclusives
>ports
?
the mgs, elder scrolls and splinter cell games are exclusive .
Was the splinter cell game not also on the Game Boy SP? Or whatever the clamshell was before the DS.
Yeah it was just a port of the GBA game.
The Elder Scrolls game was exclusive to N-Gage but the MGS game came out on the later "N-Gage 2.0" service and was just an updated version of an already existing mobile title.
N-Gage didnt have exclusive games, all of them worked on any symbian phone, partly why n-gage was a failure, piracy was just as easy as installing things onto your phone.
Oh man you just reminded me of my Nokia N95 that broke into a billion pieces somehow.
>N-Gage didnt have exclusive games, all of them worked on any symbian phone
pretty sure you're thinking of N-Gage 2.0
pretty sure im thinking of downloading roms of the internet and placing them into my N95 8GB
Yeah the N95 was compatible with N-Gage 2.0, you're thinking of pirating those games
>No its n-gage 2
shut your fricking face, you dont know shit.
google "n-gage piracy" and youll find exactly what im talking about from articles as back as 2003
>articles as back as 2003
clearly you're lying since N-Gage 2.0 didn't launch until 2008
Clearly you have no fricking clue what you are talking about
so?
Smart Phones got an exclusive Elder Scrolls game yet nobody was clamouring for ports or even cared when it came to Switch.
gonna buy the limited edition one so i can brag about it to europeans on here
same it's great being american
im not even gonna open it just post the sealed box with the text "you will never buy this at MSRP"
See you Thursday, Ameri/v/ros...
getting a deck oled for xmas and giving my old deck to my sister as a xmas gift
I'm getting the LE 1TB one. I already bugged steam support :^)
thinking about doing exactly this... It's extremely tempting buying the OLED but if I do I'll prob gift my deck to my brother for christmas or something
Spending 750 burger bucks to dab on euros. Based.
>there's still people that defend the rog ally
I was just about to buy one thank God.
>PS2 comes out
>haha thanks for beta testing PS1 gays
>PS3 comes out
>haha thanks for beta testing PS2 gays
It's all so tiring.
I have three Steam Deck OLEDs.
Handhelds are completely different to consoles. The 3ds was absolutely a beta test for the new3ds, same as the og DS to dslite and GBA to GBA sp. Deck is a first gen product for an entirely new OS and form factor, you are obviously beta testing till the real version 2.
I dont understand people who use Steam, when you buy a game you dont have it physically. Then why are you buying anything?
go to bed tim
you don't own anything on EGS either.
>but you also don't own anything on egs!!!!! see!!!!!! you lose haha
I accept your concession fren, come home son, stop being a paypig, piracy has never been easier
I am a pirate, dickhead. and I still use steam because I don't have hundreds of terabytes of storage, or the means to move it quickly from place to place.
>yeah I am a pirate, but it's more convenient to keep buying on steam... BUT NOT ON EGS AYYYYY LMAO DA CHINK BOOOOOOOOGEYMAN!!!!!!!
so I see you're merely a moron...
So how badly does the anti glare screen spoil the OLED colour depth?
>still using mine
what now, OP?
said deck 2 would be years away
its just oled, its not deck 2
>original is useless now
I'm pretty pissed because they literally had a "hey look it's the valve anniverary sale come get a steam deck for the lowest price ever!" thing and it was a trick to unload old stock. However the old one still isn't useless, it runs the exact same games. Really gay ass move however, I have to say.
you can still buy LCD version still.
If you got a 64gb deck you still got a decent deal. If you bought a 256gb or 512gb deck you got fricked.
expand
they're exactly the same except for the easily upgradeable storage.
There is no eqivalent upgrade at the 64gb price, all you missed out on was a memory upgrade which wasn't that important since the SD card covers almost all memory needs. If you bought a 256gb+ deck you missed out on a million new upgrades for exactly the same cost.
I think the current deck is worth 550 dollars if you intend to keep it for 4-5years but the fact that deck 2 is coming in 2-3years makes the price point of oled feel too high.
I always head that antiglare screen was worth it with 265GB one.
256gb wasn't even anti glare, it was always the most expensive 512gb model which was obviously a rip off. Also the anti glare thing is not a straight upgrade it's a matter of preference.
Who the frick buys things to sell later for upgrades? Are you one of those morons that upgrades to a new phone every time the next one releases?
I don't sell it to buy new shit I just buy new variants if it has a clear use case, the deck is the most useful piece of hardware ive bought in the past 15 years so if course I'm going to want to upgrade it when they launch a proper version 2. Consoles and phones on the other hand are all completely pointless so I either skip generations or buy 1 of each per gen.
with a bit of know-how and carefulness you can easily swap the included 64GB SSD with a 512GB or greater for much less than buying the 256 model
example being amazon having a 1TB SSD for sale that's been known to work on the steam deck currently at 99 USD
add that to the current 349 USD price of the 64GB model and you have a total of 448 USD, which is the current price of the 512GB LED model
hell, there's a 2TB SSD for 50 USD more and you'd get quadruple the space of the 512GB model for a bit more
>there's a 2TB SSD for 50 USD more and
What and where.
be me, the anon who copped the 64gb deck and upgraded it to 2TB
You could have bought an oled deck with that cost. The only people who didn't get fricked are 64gb deck owners who kept costs low while knowing they were beta testing for deck 2.
OLED is still not deck 2, its exactly the same device with 10WHr more battery, its literally not worth the upgrade if you have 64gig Deck.
I never said it was deck 2, I'm saying the 64gb deck was worth it as long as you keep it for the 4-5 years it will have taken for the real deck 2. That's a short/medium length console cycle for a cheapish console price. People spending 600+ dollars on an oled deck are paying expensive console prices for a console cycle of 2-3 years which is shit value for money.
what do you mean was? why do you keep saying was?
ITS STILL AVAILABLE!
It's less valuable now because you lost 2 years of use. It is balanced out by being slightly cheaper so if I had to choose I'd still buy the 64gb deck and wait for deck 2. But at this point if I hadn't already bought a deck I'd just wait, buy a switch 2 next year then buy the deck 2 the year or two after.
>you lost 2 years of use
thats not how value is calculated, at all.
It is with console cycles that make prior revisions completely irrelevant. I already know I'm going to buy a deck 2.0 on launch so the value of any prior gen is going to be measured by how much I used it, 4 years + for less than 400 dollars is totally acceptable. Using a 550+ dollar product for 2 years before throwing it out in not acceptable amount of value extracted.
Steam deck doesnt have a console cycle, it will never have a console cycle, its a PC.
Why are you trying to start a boring semantics argument? The point is I like the deck enough to buy the new one when it launches because I want a more powerful variant, so for me there is a very clear cycle.
yea still not a console cycle.
Hardware will get better but OLED aint it. OLED is just refresh to get more sales, nothing else.
Old device doesnt become worse, new device doesnt get to enjoy new features. Its the same shit in different package. This isnt disaster that is Switch with its how many versions there are, that are have different features.
You can't read, I never said the oled was a new generation, it's what the first deck was supposed to be, nobody who owns an og deck should be upgrading.
can you read? Did I say that you said it? I said there OLED isnt better than LCD and that I disagree with your idea that original shouve had OLED at all, as OLED screens are fricking shit at this point, green tint and burn in is fricking disgusting.
The original LCD wasn't just a simple LCD panel it was an awful panel with colour accuracy worse than even the og switch. It doesn't matter how paranoid you are about an old meme issue like burn in, compared to the garbage og screen it's a massive improvement.
>Its the same shit in different package.
>Better screen
>Fairly substantial battery life increase
For a portable those are pretty damn important
you can change battery at any point, screen is nice but not a huge selling point. LCD is still king of budget, get a new battery and you are golden.
Complaining about OLED and how its better is fricking moronic.
eh I really like the etched glass I'm a sucker for matte screens and the other models with the glossy screen is very unappealing to me even if it's a little gimmicky. Plus it feels a little special now because the version I have isn't going to be sold anymore (512gb variant they're selling won't have it) Yeah I'll just cope with the model I bought since the "upgrades" aren't really worth the extra 500 or 600. I've played with mine for a couple months and if they haven't done any actual performance upgrades that will make it run AAA games more capably then I'm not upgrading anytime soon.
Isn't it *just* a different screen? If so then no it's not useless. A new model isn't going to magically make your's stop working.
>Steam deck (original) is useless now
The frick does that even mean?
Do you think the LCD steamdecks stop working now or something, are you moronic?
if it were the epicdeck timmy would push out an update that'd make it stop working.
>artifact
almost had me there buddy
almost
over the artifact fan base
Oh
it's you
>Not even Nintendo was this bad, had years between normal and OLED model
are we ignoring that nintendo released a switch with double the battery life of the launch model 2 years into its lifespan?
playing arma 3 on my deck as we speak. waiting for homosexual server owner to put together a scenario for us
Do you even have enough keybind for that? It am I wrong and you don't need a million buttons to bandaid your buddy?
yed and no. i only ever play infantry and maybe drive a ground vehicle so my basic ass infantry / fps shooter layout works just fine. i can access the quick menu and if i need other stuff i can open the steam keyboard. which is kinda awkward but i got used to it.
Both sides of the debate make good points, nonetheless I cancelled my Legion Go order and will wait for the OLED Deck.
Yes the Deck is less powerful, but OLED presentation on pre-2023 games is of itself a visual boost which goes beyond framerate. People are also forgetting the possibility that autists will figure out ways to squeeze more power out of the OLED model.
i mainly use deck for emulation so oled 90hz is just too good not to upgrade
how does 90hz benefit emulation?
>how does 90hz benefit emulation?
I guess it's better for 30fps games
more responsive screen
Yeah but Legion is 8,8' whereas Deck is only 7,4'. Trust me, that extra inch makes for all the differemce in the world.
In my experience that extra inch can often be too much, but I think the width of the thing is what makes it especially hard to handle.
They both have the same width which is too long. 8' is minimum playing modern games.
>8' minimum
Holy shit, take it easy, King Kong
it's a handheld, not a woman.
>i don't want to support steam by buying 2 steam decks
>but i will buy 2 nintendo switches for me and my gay bf
I'm sure nobody on this board agree's with op.
>v
oh...
Look steam deck 2 with 50% faster processor, graphics/gpu, more cooling, EASY/GOOD WINDOWS/dual boot Support, and a LOWER price, MIGHT be released in 2026, but do you really want to own NO good portable game player untill 2026?
ill be buying another lcd deck you fomo children are going to sell to me for peanuts.
and im going to haggle it lower and you will drop the price since you guys are fricking stupid.
OLED Deck users will get decked by the Steam Deck 2 announcement, also OLED but way better in many things.
THANKS
FOR
BETA
TESTING
>the internet grandfather of fat bastard kino
>BETRAYAL
why are steam drones such entitled little homosexuals? you're getting a good product, you should be happy.
thanks steve
Guess I was wrong. With 20% area reduction there's no way it's a simple die shrink, so Valve probably really won't be able to just in due time replace 7nm die in LCDeck with 6nm
I don't get the OLED meme. Better battery life on the other hand sounds alluring, but I currently have my deck almost always plugged in when I use it on work trips so it is not enough for me to justify buying another.
if u have ur deck on docked mode mainly then there is no point in getting the oled
I don't have it docked, but I usually have it plugged to a power socket while I'm playing it on a train or in a hotel room.
My bet is that Deck 2 will be released in 2025, so decks will have 4 years release cycle, or same as console -> console pro.
Yes I know that it was made in 22. But for me everything about Deck1 screams 21 product pushed back by semiconductor shortage, and inexperience from Valve.
Yeah SD1.0 really was a beta test run. SDOLED is what the original device should have been when it launched.
SDOLED is already outdated on the tech front by other PC handhelds that barely cost more.
Pretty much. It's just the same thing repackaged with a better screen that's why it's not really worth buying if you already own one especially considering they will probably release SD 2 in a year or two from now with the way things are moving in the scene. If your willing to drop 500 you would unironically be better off buying a windows portable with the slightly better chip set for better performance than what the SD can do.
>If your willing to drop 500 you would unironically be better off buying a windows portable with the slightly better chip set for better performance than what the SD can do.
I absolutely agree. Both ROG Ally and Legion GO are better devices. Won't be long before the Lenovo nose dives in prices.
>No clamshell revision
ONE JOB VALVE
shhh that idea would bankrupt nintendo
Oh yeah, I didn't consider that by using a clamshell design they could shrink the size of the device massively.
The size of the device is its biggest problem. A clamshell design with 8' OLED display, 50Wh battery and actual fans equipped with RDNA3 APU would be the bomb.
I would prefer it but the degrade in thumbstick quality it would require makes me think they will never opt for a clamshell design.
>makes a totally legit thread about being upset that a new OLED model is out
>throws Artifact in there
You couldn't help but let the mask slip, could you OP? We all know what this thread is REALLY about; you're not actually mad about the near identically performing OLED model, you just wanted to whine about Artifact.
I don't understand the direction of this reaction. Do they want companies to not upgrade their hardware or do they want an impossible to maintain return policy?
I get the concept of early adopter syndrome, but in every case you didn't have to purchase the product when you did, and valve never said they would never upgrade. The consumer doesn't have some legal or moral right to know the marketing strategy of a company.
Valve is going to learn a wierd ass lesson from this reaction, it's not a good lesson either. Valve will either not upgrade their hardware mid generation ever again, or they will simply think the whole endeavor is against their best interests and move on. The best that can happen is that they realize all these people are morons and ignore it.
Keep in mind, this reaction is that people that are asking for an updated deck got an upgraded deck, but "too early".
homie, do you want it or not?
>I don't understand the direction of this reaction
Deranged anti-deck schizoposters will try to spin any positive as a negative.
>I don't understand the direction of this reaction.
Tendie cope
The lesson they need to learn is to keep their mouth shut. Constantly making statements about the next deck being 2-3 years away was unnecessary and led people to assume shit that was incorrect.
can you install windows on these things?
Yes
where are we
early adopters who keep getting raped