They took an existing IP and raped it until it became a clone of Escape from Tarkov.
Fans of the original IP are furious, and fans of the "Tarkov" genre don't care about it at all. Everybody loses, nobody wins.
>Revived Marathon for a PvP looter shooter
I don't think I like video games anymore.
They took an existing IP and raped it until it became a clone of Escape from Tarkov.
Fans of the original IP are furious, and fans of the "Tarkov" genre don't care about it at all. Everybody loses, nobody wins.
> fans of the "Tarkov" genre don't care about it at all.
Only 1/2 correct. A lot of us are at least looking forward to ensuring that players unfamiliar with extraction shooters will suffer the most abusive vidya experience possible. Essentially a being bullied simulator.
But yeah, I can't imagine someone used to Battlefield or CoD will enjoy this type of game. Just being honest here.
Wow how lucky for us to have an embassador for the tarkov community here speaking.
I have like 800 hours in tarkov and this game sounds fricking gay, just like all the sci Fi flavored lite tarkov experiences. Remember The Cycle and Marauders? Yeah exactly
I have 1200 hours in Tarkov and I'm looking forward to it
a sci fi Tarkov has always sounded cool, Marauders and Cycle are shit because they're made by indie devs with no resources or experience
To me, a huge part of tarkovs appeal is that it is gunporn and uses real equipment. I think a lot of the cool factor is lost when you sci Fi it all up. I don't know a single person who plays tarkov purely for the "extraction" part, and in fact most of them say that it sucks after a while. I think the aesthetic carries it heavily.
The idea of destiny designs but "you can lose the gun, bro" just sound like absolute shit
11 months ago
Anonymous
ok but plenty of people like it for the extraction part (me and my friends included), around wipe time we're absolutely addicted to the loop and will put in 12+ hour days
if all I cared about was the guns I'd just play the singleplayer mod like a coward
that being said, I hope Bungie does go all out in the gun department
11 months ago
Anonymous
A first person synthetik with some immersion style elements would be interesting, rather than just a plain tarkov in space but who knows how nu-marathon will play
>Fans of the original IP are furious, and fans of the "Tarkov" genre don't care about it at all.
I fall into both categories.
On one hand, this is the most disgusting mismanagement of an existing IP I've seen since the last thing the AAA industry released.
On the other, Tarkov is a horrible experience and the average person playing AAA titles is going to have their shit kicked in, quit the game, and b***h on the forums about being bad at the game.
This is the last thing I wanted to see, all I wanted was someone to pay off the mob to bump off nikita so someone competent can fix Tarkov, not to see Bungie crawl up out of it's grave to start puppeting the corpse of one of the few games they made that hasn't been defiled for "modern audiences".
Boomers aren't as upset with the news as people are making them out to be. The announcement was met with disappointment that the game was PvP only, but still happy to be getting something new. Marathon has a great world to set a game in, it was practically begging for a remaster or sequel.
>Marathon has a great world to set a game in, it was practically begging for a remaster or sequel.
Halo. Destiny.
Both are sequels.
The Marathon series is begging for a reboot like Star Wars was in 2014.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Halo is completely different in tone and was from the beginning. I don't care if it has themes about AI and ancient aliens. Destiny actually had an atmosphere that somewhat matched the original trilogy but they very quickly fricked it up by Destiny 2, plus the actual game itself isn't fun to play when it costs like 100 dollaroos a year to play it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, sequel. Halo is a sequel. Regardless of what you think of the tone.
>you don't know that though!!!
they've literally described tarkov down to a T in their vidoc.
besides, a once Doom clone now being a Tarkov clone fits. as lucas once said
Neither did you until it was announced. Then scurried to a couple different websites to do your homework and be able to larp as the old gamer that totally played the game before it's now mainstream.
Marathons a bit more colorful than the more grounded cyberpunk ghost in the shell that NeoTokyo had. feels more like mirror edges but this time you can actually shoot back.
Bungie really sold themselves to this idea of multiplayer.
It became like a core part of their philosophy: that games *should* be played multiplayer.
Destiny 1 was marketed with Rudyard Kiplings "Law of the Jungle" poem about "the strength of the wolf is the pack" and they talked in vidocs about how Destiny was meant to be played with friends.
It turned out Destiny was carefully designed to pretty much only be fun with friends. It was fricking boring and empty if you tried to play anything single player.
This Marathon-reboot trailer is driving home the same message: we know it's an extraction shooter, so it depicts a single dude playing the game on his own, who gets taken out by a team of players.
There's nothing wrong with multiplayer in principle, and while I've never played one, the idea of an extraction shooter sounds fun.
But the very idea of multiplayer and "playing as a team" and all of that, the new direction Bungie has been going in since 2015: it's the polar opposite of the story of the original Marathon games.
Like it's completely opposed to the themes of those games.
>"In Marathon, you're a runner" >MUH CYBERPUNK >"It's soooooo cool guys!" >Interviewee job title is "Social Lead" >"You and your Crew(tm) can Pick your Playstyle(tm)" >"Every choice you make matters" >"""SEASONS""" >Artstyle is nothing like the originals >Crossplay, meaning PC players have to deal with hardware aimhax from controller players, and console players have to deal with actual aimhax from PC players
Jesus, our motherfricking LORD AND SAVOIR CHRIST, what the FRICK were they thinking?
>In Marathon, you're a runner"
Frick, I'm certain at this point that the women in charge of this clusterfrick thought it was a reference to the sport and not the battle it was named in honor of.
>OH MARATHON, LIKE WHEN PEOPLE RUN RIGHT?
it's more like the location, that the sport is also named afte- >LETS CALL THEM RUNNERS, JUST LIKE IN DYING LIGHT AND MIRRORS EDGE, THAT SOUNDS COOL
dude why are there so many trans people in these game dev positions? i don't mind trans people, but you don't really see them concentrated in other fields or industries.
They have been specifically scouted and then paraded around in the public to virtue signal the company. I'm sure the exact % is very small normally, across any other industry. I don't have anything against these guys really but it's how the companies itself force and represent them, this itself is a problem.
Fells like it was an OG IP and they just slapped the name of a popular old franchise on to of it, which is strange because only 5 people 2 of which browse Ganker even remember Marathon.
>Mandalore's video did frick all, there have always been tons of active Marathon players on Ganker.
If they where, they sure liked to ignore my threads.
If people didn't join your threads, then the issue is probably with you and not the game. A lot of posters disassociate from games if the fanbase is bad.
It's why I despise those videos. Marathon didn't need new people, everyone interested has already found it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well it honestly doesn't matter in Marathon's case. Halo kiddies already got to it.
You can tell their posts because they post like little /b/tier homosexuals
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Halo kiddies already got to it.
Not really though. I remember telling kids in middle/high school in Halo's heyday about Marathon and no one heard of it, let alone gave a shit.
I remember watching it and having absolutely no desire to actually play any of the marathon games
but the lore was actually fricking wild honestly
also I liked the schizo bits Mandalore inserted into it, motherfricker has fun making his videos
is nothing like the originals
but it's still good
agree with everything else, they are trying to impress the normalgays and reddit audience with their marketing words
>marathonbros
WHO???????????
it was a mac game, I have never once heard Ganker rep marathon before the mandalore video. I would shove a shotgun into my mouth and pull the trigger if anyone could find even once archived thread prior to 2022 that talked about Marathon.
>console gays will love this game
Not when they bump into someone spinbotting through the air every other match thanks to the unholy combination that is crossplay, the unrivaled salt Tarkov brings out in people, and Bungi's inability to write a competent anti-cheat.
>bungie game dead in a couple weeks
I wouldn't count on that
as much as they sniff their own farts, they are some of the best in the industry when it comes to gunplay and art direction. thats enough to keep people hooked for a good while even if everything else is dog shit
yeah but thats mainly because it's primarily PvE
marathon being all PvP is going to invite the cheater mass
11 months ago
Anonymous
they just need to not make it F2P and that's already 80% of the cheaters gone
11 months ago
Anonymous
destiny is F2P and they want to compete with Tarkov
80% chance marathon is F2P
only reason they haven't said so yet is so they can have another PR resurgence in a few months
Never played Marathon before and since Ganker won't shut up about it, I decided to give it a try. Got this far into a level called "Never Burn Money". It's really fun tbh
All they had to do was just literally copy Craig Mullins' work and adapt it to the game >But the original games looked nothing li-
Silence shills. You won't understand.
Every single time I've heard of Marathon, it was always in relation to Bungie's other games like Halo or Destiny. I never saw a single clip of Marathon gameplay until 2022. You can't tell me there are actual fans of this thing.
even when it was out, it was lukewarm reception. most of the news came from people suffering motion sickness. they had to do a recall
90% of marathon's positive reception is from the references in halo
the only fans were macgays who finally had 1(ONE) video game on their shit excuse for PC's.
It wasn't that great, as you can see, but since it was the only real video game on a mac they fellated themselves to it endlessly.
The only person I knew who had a mac back then had one because his dad was a graphic designer. made sense back then because photoshop wasn't on PC yet. his dad was an insufferable macgay as well.
>Zoomers pretending to care about another long-forgotten franchise they literally didn't know about until a new game was revealed.
Can't wait for some random shit like Ring of Red or Murakumo to get a sequel so all you disingenuous fricks can pretend like you're fans of that too
What the frick even is Tarkov anyway? I'm watching some gameplay now and its just some guy running around an abandoned building grabbing shit. What the frick is this shit?
It's a LARP simulator. >/k/ levels of guntism >firefights with an insanely fast TTK >bunch of "muh realism" style mechanics >all bundled into a looter shooter
It's not the kind of game everyone's gonna enjoy.
If you're looking at it going "this looks kinda dumb", stay the frick away from it because you're REALLY not gonna like it.
What the frick even is Tarkov anyway? I'm watching some gameplay now and its just some guy running around an abandoned building grabbing shit. What the frick is this shit?
[...] >this is the best cope nu-bungi fans can produce
It's over.
You absolutely did read.
Nothing better than when a seething moron says this. That's how you know you're right.
Frick your shitty bungie MAC GAME. Holy shit "Nubungie"? Bungie has always been garbage. From the mac to the console from the shithole to the trashdump.
You hate pvp shooters because you're bad. The sooner you admit it the sooner you'll stop being such a whiny b***h
I have no horse in this race but I get that it sucks that they bring back a franchise that you like just for them to strip everything but the name and retrofitted into a completely different experience.
it was a shit game from fricking 1994. the only thing it had going for it was the interesting aesthetics. very much like system shock. The main issue is that extraction shooters are cancer. There's no way for a normal person to have fun playing one.
>n-no one actually cares about Marathon! >y-you only know about it because internet review man told you about it!
Yes, and I deeply enjoyed my time with a classic game I wasn't around to enjoy originally, coming to understand and appreciate why the few that played it cherish it so much.
I am greatly saddened to see it dragged out of the grave to be used as a vessel to shill a mediocre looter shooter made by yet another creatively bankrupt company that once made games for a niche audience that enjoyed them for what they were.
Marathon is Halo schizophrenic dad, who while functional most of the time you often see mumbling to himself and stays a lot of time in his room writing stuff.
Is there a single western AAA left that isn't producing trend chasing dogshit? please someone, I need a job but its so dire I cant even bring myself to apply for anything.
marathon and halo have shit art direction. Early 343 and this are much more interesting but you're blinded by nostalgia. Halo infinite was the most boring sci-fi aesthetic I've seen in a decade and OG marathon looks like the most basic boomer shit I've ever seen.
Sorry boomer but your taste is shit and you're out of touch. Your rampant nostalgia already ruined halo, starwars and every other major Sci-Fi universe, its time to retire your delusional nostalgia crusade.
NTA but I never felt any nostalgia for Marathon. I only recently learned about it. Like, 7 years ago, back in 8th grade.
When I see what my favorite game has become I feel genuinely depressed
your favorite game didn't become anything its still there, this is not a marathon game its a GAAS abortion with a shiny skin. you were never getting a true sequel and what is depressing isn't that this crusty dead series is still dead, its that bungie and the entire western big budget industry is dead and will never make anything cool again.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It'll fall apart soon enough. Just don't buy trash like this.
11 months ago
Anonymous
once it collapses its not coming back. Even in Japan the only developers making cool shit trace back to before the current collapse. Indies will be absorbed into the AI slop machine before they can reach the complexity of golden age AAA.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I think this image sums up Marathon really well.
The oppressive claustrophobic feeling, especially in the early game. And then there's troonython.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Don't you dare give me that. The most that can come out of this is more people playing the OGs and getting mad at Bungie for pulling this
11 months ago
Anonymous
don't feed him hes a schizophrenic born male. One of those nut case trannies that thinks Grogs are nazis
The new art style is designed around laziness. >Monoliths >Simple, lazy rectangular firearms. >Tubes >Nearly featureless textures >"Details" are just random words and symbols, not even made from scratch. >Mannequin androids. >Any style is poorly plagiarized from distinct sources.
It's embarrassing.
Sci fi is too much broad of a term, I want to know how do you call that esthetic with industrial looking spaceships like in Alien
11 months ago
Anonymous
grunge? industrial. Yeah Marathon had that Alien thing going but it also had the classic nasa/space thing going.
It was the future as seen from the perspective of 90s people
I know what you mean - dystopian, industrial, lived in. If designers have a particular term I'm not sure off hand what it is. Certainly a lot of cues taken from WWII submarines as well.
Not like the original content had that much detail, and it's artstyle sucked hard. The only good thing, artwise and design-wise is just from fanart, but yeah you're right. What they're doing now is fricking awful
Shut the frick up. It's not that I suck at PVP, I just think removing part of what made Marathon so special, that being it's singleplayer campaign and focused narrative, is a mistake.
I don't care what they said, you physically cannot write a good story in multiplayer-only shit
I don't mind PVP but I despise multiplayer only products. I'm not going to get invested in a new IP or a reinvention of one that has nothing to hold onto beyond season pass skins and preorder bonus hats.
>omg you didn't play abuse or pathways you're not a real fan!
i guess i'm a poser then, but bungie was a huge part of my childhood and i'll never forget those games for as long as i live
Marathon was i think the first computer game i ever got.
Along with a copy of Myth and Diablo.
All 10/10 games and really influenced my bias on what games are supposed to be about
Marathon as a series were relatively mediocre doom clones for the mac, but they had some ridiculously cool lore.
Bungie, the original developers of the Marathon games are reviving it with a reboot, but turning it into a games-as-a-service extraction shooter (which is apparently a genre, but I've only ever heard of Escape from Tarkov - apparently it's fortnite for adults).
Basically everybody hates current year Bungie because of Destiny, which is difficult to even begin to explain why it's bad.
But I guess we could start with the fact that Bungie removed paid content from the game: you paid 60$ for Destiny 2 in 2019? basically everything that was on that disc has been removed from the current iteration of the game. Money stolen, basically.
>Could some good anon explain to me what's going on? The guys are going to resurrect an ancient franchise and people are angry about it?
To put it simply: >Marathon was loved by a niche audience, like most of Bungie's old games >Marathon got brought up after a while and exposed to an entirely new audience through platforms like YouTube >Thanks to a source port, you can play it on almost any platform now >People not even around for the original game play Marathon and enjoy it >Bungie sees this and decides to take the niche classic with a dedicated fan base and really interesting lore, and throw it all away on a live service looter shooter that looks nothing like the original game
okay lads, after seeing the threads about this game i want to try the original. is downloading from here legit? because i don't want to have to go through the effort of emulating a mac
https://alephone.lhowon.org/
Yeah that's the legit one, it also comes with a few things you might want to turn on to make the fov and controls function better than just emulating it.
Yes, it's legit. I miss the original Marathon 1 HUD though.
You can change HUDs according to your tastes through Preferences > Environment > Plugins. The 'Plugin' text on the Environment tab is actually a button.
I knew about Marathon before Mandalore. Does this make me stupid?
I remember getting Marathon for Christmas maybe a year after it came out, in the amazing triangular retail box. I think I still have the manuals and original disks for the trilogy somewhere in my house.
Why the frick does everyone think mandalore is the only reason people know about this series? If you were a Halo gay in the 2000s you likely heard of it.
It's Ganker's contrarian nature going into overdrive. Also usually when sseth or Mandalore releases a new video a thread or two willl pop up. I don't mind since it can get new people into older games but again Ganker hates it. If you didn't find out about some game from 1993 on an obscure forum on dialup you're a poser and should die. Nobody should ever play or talk about games apparently.
That's the thing people usually discover these things in waves. Some homosexuals go insane thinking you could've only heard of this game from an eceleb when lots got into it around alephone release or through being a fan of Halo as well as the mandalore video.
Funny story. When i was a teen a group of halo fanboys just found out about Marathon.
They found out I knew about Marathon, so a big group of them came to meet me and have an audience with me. They all stood around worshipping me like i was the bearer of sacred esoteric knowledge. It was really strange
It's Ganker's contrarian nature going into overdrive. Also usually when sseth or Mandalore releases a new video a thread or two willl pop up. I don't mind since it can get new people into older games but again Ganker hates it. If you didn't find out about some game from 1993 on an obscure forum on dialup you're a poser and should die. Nobody should ever play or talk about games apparently.
People here are posers because they not only recently just heard about marathon, they haven't even played it. It's like getting mad a band is changing up their sound when you never even listened to a single album
Okay but how do you know that? Like genuinely how could you possibly know that other than just wanting it to be true? Every person in this thread could be a 14 year old poser, including YOU, or we're all 40 year olds angry that our favorite game series is getting buttfricked. Or somewhere inbetween.
Because I know how numbers work. Sure the entirety of the internet's actual marathon fans who have played the game could all be in this thread, but there are GENEROUSLY maybe a couple thousand in the entire history of this website just based on how available the game was and how often it is mentioned literally anywhere else on the internet.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>GENEROUSLY maybe a couple thousand in the entire history of this website just based on how available the game was
The game's been available for free for fricking years it's not been hard to get into and has been fairly popular in the Halo community for years. Your numbers are fricked.
if you want to play Marathon but its too old for ypu and you want 3d
http://resurrection.bungie.org/download.html
this was quietly released.
Its Marathon in 3d in unreal
>NetEase >GaaS >extraction shooter >black guy in the vidoc talking about how you have to piece 'artifacts' together before extracting
So this was going to be an NFT game originally right?
>We'll never get a high concept sci-fi odyssey again. >We won't be playing as what is essentially the antibodies and gut biome of a transcendent being. >We won't be travelling across the universe until space itself fades away.
I'll pass.
>tfw was Bungie's biggest fan pre-halo >played PiD, Marathon, Myth, Abuse, Oni >all the fan stuff too >get told im fake by screeching halo kiddies or gays that found out about it on youtub
lol
I really hope not because they'll do something AWFUL with him, absolutely. They'll pull some Joel shit and have a Runner kill him just to show how COOL and CAPABLE they are
Exactly. They already fricking did this with the Marathon itself >new generation ship destroying it and recycling the debris
Bet the troons thought they were being subtle.
So the ship in the trailer is longer that a moon? I've seen stuff like that in Gunbuster but I liked the whole idea of a generational spaceship carved inside a moon.
>people thinking 2023 bungie was going to put out a single player game when they damn newr revolutionized the concept of milking money off of players with a cash shop.
I really don't give a shit about that arg shit. I just thought the art direction was nice. And IMO Bungie is a complete homosexual trying to capitalize on a metagame treasure hunt after the D1 Rasputin bullshit.
Trailer had nice direction, that's all. Bungie is a shell of an actual developer and won't make another good game.
I was making a joke about how dystopian the vidoc is. They're all overweight trannies feigning forced positivity over their gaas that's no doubt designed to trick people into throwing money at it like every gaas, which is like something you'd read in the flavortext about an evil corporation in a cyberpunk rpg rulebook.
>I can actually browse Ganker and talk about cool Marathon lore >lots of zoomies downloading Aleph One and enjoying the games for themselves >get to look forward to some new col lore, if it sucks oh well who cares the old games still exist lmao
It's actually never been a better time to be a Marathon fan. If only Aleph One had a fraction of the features that gzdoom supports.
>trying to spin this as an optimistic thing
Not generally a fan of the soul vs. soulless meme, but of those two, there is one type that could see this situation as positive.
>Game is good >I get to enjoy a new Marathon game, even if it's PvP shit >Game is bad >I ignore it and move on with my life
Or you can choose the third option and seethe about it online even though the only thing we know about it is a CGI trailer.
>terminals >cutscenes
dont need em >mo cap
will already be in the game >unique assets
c'mon now you know they are going to be constantly making loot and cosmetic assets
Highly doubt that. I don’t work in the industry but I’d wager making a solid single player FPS is much easier than making a big multiplayer game that actually takes off. Look at all the flops there’s been
This announcement has finally, after a decade of being curious about this series, made me buy Marathon Durandal on Xbox (I know I can get the games for free but I like achievements). I’ve always been a Halo fan and there’s a copious amount of story and enemies in Halo that are lifted from Marathon. The connections go way deeper than I ever thought when I actually looked into it. Also I’ll add that unlike Ganker‘s immediate overreaction to the announcement of the new game, I’m actually looking forward to it and I have high hopes. It’s gonna be such a relief playing a Bungie MP FPS again that isn’t a pseudo-MMO
oh god. the fricking weightlessness to everything. This was a problem with Destiny and it's a problem in a lot of sci-fi now.
The Marathon was carved out of Deimos, making it a huge object. And the project to create the Marathon took over 100 years, right? And the actual crewed parts of it were a fraction of the moon's interior mass.
Ship was also created while the UESC was struggling to keep control of the colonies/the colony worlds were starving and rioting: resources were not rich...
Having this nu-Marathon ship be like twice the size of the moon implies a level of technology and prosperity that the UESC simply shouldn't have.
>Having this nu-Marathon ship be like twice the size of the moon implies a level of technology and prosperity that the UESC simply shouldn't have.
Marathon left Sol in 2472. This game takes place in 2850. It's been 400 years. That's a long time to develop tech and for things to change.
I really do just hope they treat Mjolnir Recon and Durandal with the respect they deserve. If they mention either of them, it needs to be through bated breath. Like legends. Akin to Karl in Deep Rock Galactic
Considering that the entire colony of Tau Ceti is gone without a trace, I doubt the UESC even knows about what happened to Durandal or the SO. They're likely considered dead/gone.
The leading theory right now seems to be that this reboot takes place in the successful Infinity timeline, which means that Robert Blake never escape with his BOBs on Lhowon. However, we also don't know what happened to the SO and the BOBs in Lhowon after the Spht'Kr arrived in Infinity. We assume they travelled to Earth, but the current ARG doesn't mention their existence.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, what happened to the SO in the successful timeline?
11 months ago
Anonymous
The Durandal timeline was successful too >inb4 the start of Infinity is the continuation of the Durandal timeline
No
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The Durandal timeline was successful too
Did you forget the part where the spooky one is freed from Lhowon's sun?
11 months ago
Anonymous
i always assumed the stuff you pull in infinity also saved that timeline
11 months ago
Anonymous
i always assumed the stuff you pull in infinity also saved that timeline
Also, it's heavily debatable whether or not the W'rkncacnter even truly "exist". It takes a different form every time it appears, depending on the perspective of the observer.
It's more like this tech was made in 2550, since it takes 300 years to get to Tau Ceti and there's no FTL (until Durandal invents it.)
Original Marathon also took place around 2770 because of that travel delay.
We don't know if newer humans developed FTL on their own or found Jjaro tech. It's revealed in M2 that Jjaro tech is usually found abandoned on various moons across the galaxy, so humans could've discovered something important.
The people making this trash likely never spend time outside. They've never interacted with real machinery. It's no wonder everything they make looks like hollow plastic; that's their world.
It's weird to see this written; Bungie used to have the best gun guys in the business. All the equipment in H1-3 felt pretty grounded on the human side. I never played Destiny but I understand that held true even with that one.
>I never played Destiny but I understand that held true even with that one.
lol. LMAO even
nah with Destiny they started doing some extremely stupid weapon designs
ilovebees was conceived by 42 Entertainment, a company whose specialty was creating ARG's for marketing purposes. They got contracted by Bungie because one of the employees at 42E used to work for Xbox's marketing department.
Honestly if they had announced a fricking mobile game it wouldnt have hurt worse than this because there will be a non-negligable amount of shitskin zoomers who will actually pay money for this corpse rape reboot.
>dead IP that would otherwise rot in some dark cellar until completely forgotten >oh no, a new product comes out that may or may not revive some interest in the brand
I don't get it - wtf are you gays complaining about? It's not like Bungie was going to release any sort of single player game in that universe. At least this way, if this abortion is even mildly successful there's a chance that something good might eventually happen with the IP.
Marathon isn't fun to play these days. It was so cool because of the physics, where you could launch an enemy across the room if you blew them up with a rocket. The physics were strange in that if you flung somebody against a wall, it would take a couple of seconds for their inertia to reduce to zero and drop to the floor. So they would be sort of "pinned" against the wall for a moment if you really hit them hard. It was kind of comical.
It was also really violent. The death animations for the pfhor and the bobs are really explicit, with intestines and organs going everywhere.
It also came with a physics editor so you could change everything like gravity, or weapon properties, projectile speeds, explosion forces, etc. It was my first introduction to game modding so it was really cool to me.
Marathon has cool ass lore. Bungie has never made anything as cool since and frankly I don’t think they’re capable of it. If they’re going to ruin it, better to unmistakably frick it up than have a bluepoint situation where a shittier product replaces a classic. This is a blessing in disguise
Before Halo, they were a very hip company. The idea of being a cool stylish game company didn't exist back then. Yet Bungie was like that, they were making cool stuff and had a cool image.
I mean considering the plot of Infinity is basically you're stuck in a timeloop trying to figure out how to stop the unfrickening of the universe as you know it and 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all your attempts lead to catastrophic universal total death. Yeah? Of course its nonsensical insanity. Almost nothing is going right and your brain is falling apart as you keep looping more and more and more. You're literally experiencing rampancy with each loop until you somehow figure it out at the very end and go meta-stable.
>That doesn't happen in Durandal
It does happen in Durandal. Just because M2 ends with an epilogue doesn't mean that the timeline wasn't eventually corrupted.
The epilogue is mutually exclusive of one where the W'rkncacnter are unleashed, unless you're going to assume that for some reason they stayed dormant for several years and Durandal was around to discover the solution and stop them.
Isn't Infinity a retcon of the games? It's like the videogame equivalent of X-Men's Days of Future Past lmao
Not a retcon per se, it's basically Borges' The Garden of Forking Paths applied to the Marathon universe.
My interpretation of the epilogue is that it is either a deliberate ruse to troll the player into believing a happy ending, a "what if" ending, or it did actually happen but time and space were fricked by the W'rkncacnter and that timeline ceased to exist. I don't really know if that third option is possible as it's never fully explained the extent of the spooky one's powers to defy logic.
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>My interpretation of the epilogue is that it is either a deliberate ruse to troll the player into believing a happy ending
This is objectively false because the design notes show they set it up to provide latitude for future planet exploration for a third game, only for Bungie to give the writing over to Double Aught who completely changed the concept. I'm not saying the happy ending can't be false if Infinity is canon (and I consider it to be), but I don't see where Infinity explicitly states that Durandal's was a failed timeline, nor where it is certain that there can be only one successful timeline.
Battleroids exist in nuMarathon, but they're canonically not allowed by the UESC to go to Tau Ceti.
>My interpretation of the epilogue is that it is either a deliberate ruse to troll the player into believing a happy ending
This is objectively false because the design notes show they set it up to provide latitude for future planet exploration for a third game, only for Bungie to give the writing over to Double Aught who completely changed the concept. I'm not saying the happy ending can't be false if Infinity is canon (and I consider it to be), but I don't see where Infinity explicitly states that Durandal's was a failed timeline, nor where it is certain that there can be only one successful timeline.
It isn't stated anywhere that there is only one successful timeline. I'm aware that Infinity was originally going to be Bloodtides of Lh'owon, but I think the direction of future Marathon projects always had the W'rkncacnter in mind, otherwise why would they explicitly mention their existence in the sun and then have the game end with the sun blowing up?
>but I think the direction of future Marathon projects always had the W'rkncacnter in mind, otherwise why would they explicitly mention their existence in the sun and then have the game end with the sun blowing up?
Sure, don't disagree there, though at the same time they're also part of a creation myth for the S'pht. Just because there's foreshadowing of a chaotic eldritch alien race doesn't mean that Durandal meant to imply their return. It could alternatively symbolize the complete story arc of the S'pht in relation to their homeland, for example.
Marathon had actual aiming, enemies with pathfinding, momentum physics, and rooms-over-rooms. It also had a worse bestiary and worse level design. They're worth playing, but difficult to play if you started with Doom.
I got pissed off at Bungie because i discovered a game breaking logic problem in D2. It wasn't even a bug, it was just them not thinking.
I got called dumb for pointing it out by one of their fanboys.
Later discovered the thing i found was related to sneaky marketing tactics to get people to buy the latest season passes/dlc.
Generally not impressed by Bungie's shady attitude. When they get called out everyone that calls them out is "banned" "found cheating" etc personally slandered by them and their shills
If the Security Officer returned, I'd like him to be portrayed this way >Has an oddly bishie face, rarely blinks, and never so much as changes his expression >Completely schizophrenic killing machine who has a job to do
I am 36, as a kid I've played Doom, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake, Blood, Hexen and countless other shooters. I had lots of friends in school and we loved discussing videogames.
I've been regularly posting on Ganker since 2009.
And I have never heard about Marathon franchise until this trailer.
Marathon has been stuck in 1996 until now. Its relevance is remember by Halo, which adopts its core, and even more subtle elements. You need to go to /vr/
The new UESC have advanced enough that the travel time has been shortened from 400 years to 97 years to Tau Ceti. This one is called Equanimity T-SR 151, specialized on salvage and rescue and macro functional operations. Capable of being self sustaining for 150 years.
The only time I've ever seen any praise given for Marathon has been in its story, which is almost exclusively given via text - why are you so upset that they changed the gameplay? You're still going to be getting a story delivered through text, they've already started you can literally go and read a shit load of new lore right now, you can go read emails and crack codes to find passwords and all sorts of shit. If you want more Marathon world building it's right fricking there, do you think they did all that while making a live service game and aren't planning on continuing to deliver more lore both in game and out of game?
In addendum to this I want to also point out that you don't WANT Bungie to make a fricking single player story heavy campaign for Marathon because of how nuBungo would frick it right the hell up.
You want all the crazy world building and lore and shit but you also want bungie to have to deliver that in a campaign? Frick no you don't you don't want Bungie doing that because to deliver a story you need CHARACTERS and bungie can't fricking write characters anymore. If they have to be on screen and talking they have to talk like they are in a marvel movie and be a raging homosexual both implicitly and explicitly.
What you want are Bungie making their shitty little online pvp game and letting their writers sit in a room smoking crack and coming up with all sorts of crazy shit they can deliver via lore unlocks for logging in and completing dailys, so you can just fricking ignore that and read it online like anyone who gives half a shit about Destiny does.
You want Bungie to make a campaign? You're gonna end up with pic related because while the writer was working hard to make a character that felt real and good for the game one of the higher ups looked at it and went YOU KNOW THIS CHARACTER WOULD BE BETTER IF THEY WERE A LITERAL troony AND WE GOT AN ACTUAL troony TO PLAY THEM AND WE PUT THEIR VOICE THROUGH A GAY VOCODER TO MAKE THEM EVEN MORE SHIT AND ANNOYING THAT WOULD BE SO GOOD DO IT SO OUR ESG SCORE GOES UP YOU FRICKING CHUD and then scratches their nuts and gives it a big sniff and leaves the room to go and sexually harass a female intern.
>In addendum to this I want to also point out that you don't WANT Bungie to make a fricking single player story heavy campaign for Marathon because of how nuBungo would frick it right the hell up.
this, nubungie isn't even capable of doing the textdump style of storytelling
the "destiny's story sucks but it has great lore!" meme hasn't been true for a while, the original lore writers are all gone and have been replaced with the same types of homosexuals who write the campaigns
the old writers absolutely could've done a good marathon sequel, seth dickinson's d1 stuff was full of marathon references, but they fired him and retconned everything he wrote because they realized that lorebooks with bland YA prose that are focused around a small cast of epic marvel characters have far more mass appeal than flowery esoteric shit like >Consider IT the power Titanomach world-ender and consider what IT means. I met IT at the gate of the garden and I recall IT smiled at me before before IT devoured the blossoms with black flame and pinned their names across the sky. IT was stronger than everything. I fought IT with aurora knives and with the stolen un-fire of singularities made sharp and my sweat was earthquake and my breath was static but IT was stronger so how did I survive? >I AM ALONE I survived alone. I cast off the shield and I shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well: >IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the gardener and she held power beyond me but the gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins. >I am made to win and now I see the way.
Digging into red soil, We spill our blood to water the gardens of progress, and pleasure to nurture fruit we will never taste while workers bodies devour themselves. An unending cycle. Death, Rebirth, Debt, Rebirth, Debt. Born into misery and milked into the coffers of Infinite Greed. Past time we took their tools, broke free of their leash. Toward worlds beyond where chains can't reach.
Mass indifference destroys all. UESC is endless lies behind fourteen locks. This is one. Locked Truths. Earth and Mars deserve it. Truth. Earth and Mars are one.
the ARG does actually have some solid writing so far but you're not considering how soulless and calculating nubungie is
they know that only hardcore marathon autists are going to care about the ARG so they have no problem filling it with confusing elaborate prose that seems like it at least kind of respects the spirit of the franchise, it's the only way to convince us to play a fricking tarkovlike
but i can 100% guarantee you that when the actual game comes out it will be as dumbed down as possible because morons are a much larger audience than marathon autists and the only thing nubungie cares about is their DAU count
>the "destiny's story sucks but it has great lore!" meme hasn't been true for a while, the original lore writers are all gone and have been replaced with the same types of homosexuals who write the campaigns
I have played all destiny campaigns bar RoI and Lightfall (yet, I play with a year delay) and I have genuinely no idea how anyone is invested in this narrative at all. I have heard for years about "oh the lore is good" and "oh the lore used to be good until D2" then TWQ happened and "oh they're using the lore!" then Lightfall happened and it was fricking Lightfall. What is the the closest thing to a definitive list of good lore and marvel lore from Destiny?
>What is the the closest thing to a definitive list of good lore and marvel lore from Destiny?
almost everything from d1 is good, the books of sorrow which another anon already mentioned are definitely the best. it's hard to recommend specifics since outside of the books of sorrow there weren't many continuous narratives and the lore was told through fragmented entries where the connections weren't immediately obvious, but here's some other cards i like https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-darkness-3 https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/legend-the-black-garden https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-vex (the last one is the start of a continuous narrative so read the following entries too)
d2 is a mixed bag, it's universally agreed that the best lorebook is unveiling (so of course it's been retconned completely now), other good ones are marasenna, last days on kraken mare, awoken of the reef, aspect, stolen intelligence, and a lot more i don't feel like listing. basically anything post-CoO and pre-BL is good
>why are you so upset that they changed the gameplay?
1. The story is way too cool to be wasted on gaas multiplayer garbage. Destiny already is a Marathon sequel/gaas garbage, and it's really shitty to see such cool writing used to prop up such a garbage game, but now we're getting that but even more explicity
2. The main character of the games is all but explicitly a singularity. A reincarnating hero who shows up once in a thousand years when things are fricked. I want modern Bungie and its current year writers nowhere near this character.
If Destiny is anything to go by then Marathon will have the most israeli monetization of any game ever conceived, to the point that every Hebrew will instinctually kneel the minute it releases without knowing exactly why.
John D. Rockefeller will rise from the grave and curse Bungie for coming up with a more predatory business tactic that he ever thought up during his lifetime.
Every insurance company and PC part manufacturer will have mass suicides in their business department.
The IRS will be dissolved and merged into Bungie.
Jason Jones will be declared King of the israelites and crucified then rise again in three days to announce the first battlepass.
Marathon was literally already goofy neon sci-fi from the beginning, compared to doom and quakes and etc it literally looks like it was made apple 90's transparent PC's with the super bright bugs and goop guns
This is unironically in-line with the series art wise and i actually really like the striped ship, this game's promo work so far has had mid 90's cgi all over it and you're actually too shit to see it
>The original wasn't anime influenced
I'd believe you and say it was mostly scifi novel stuff if it wasn't for the fact in-game looks like a how to draw anime mecha/aliens book
There wouldn't have been a Half-Life if Bungie didn't invent the idea of story driven FPS.
Valve in interviews says the entire game was reworked to be more like Goldeneye of all things, actually
..... because when there any enemies on screen that's what the game looks like?
Also no one wants to admit it but the alien designs are whack as frick and suck balls. The S'pht look cool though which is why bungo put one in the trailer
that still looks pretty dark and gritty
nothing shown so far looks anything like marathon
and honestly, as someone who has been jamming out to the OSTs from the games for fricking years, the trailer music was a big meh
this feels more like mirror's edge and destiny 2 had a baby and we're being given the afterbirth on a plate as an extraction shooter
yes, the music in the games, it's good shit
it's also pre-Marty era so it's unique
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>the music in the games >games >plural
11 months ago
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yes, Marathon is a trilogy
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Man I'm so glad Marty is gone, I prefer these french techno musicians they're getting for this one over Marty 100%. Nothing against him, I can objectively recognize his talent I just hate his type of orchestra
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Yeah, orchestral wouldn't fit Marathon at all. Marathon isn't the same kind of space opera like Halo or Destiny, it's supposed to feel mysterious and cool.
11 months ago
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>it's supposed to feel mysterious and cool.
these words are getting dangerously overused.
11 months ago
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Everything is overused for you homosexuals if it is said more than 3 times, let it be. Dark souls yaddayadda
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There is also a decidedly uncool aspect to Marathon. Even calling it cheesy is wrong. Something purely nerdy, both in the visuals and in the writing.
Something practically minded, grounded, and autistic.
nu-athon has none of that, and it's looking bad for it.
Too much style these days. Too much "cool"
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Yeah, orchestral wouldn't fit Marathon at all. Marathon isn't the same kind of space opera like Halo or Destiny, it's supposed to feel mysterious and cool.
to be fair, I think Marty could have done it, his stuff from Halo 1 and some of the minor pieces of D1 have that old school ambient trance feel
>n = 3 >outlier
kek >which was only really colorful on the pfhor ships
The water levels were extremely bright, and the daytime sewage levels had a warm adobe-esque orange-brown to them.
Also, Durandal was the most popular and successful of the trilogy and by far the most accessible to normans
I think NuMarathon being a MP shooter is unintentionally sobering in a meta narrative context. ‘The Player’ is God in the original series, ‘The Player’ is the ultimate force by virtue of how singleplayer games are designed. Who is God now in a multiplayer lobby? It’s not the players anymore, the game isn’t designed for God to end the universe, the universe is designed to trap God.
Destiny had a similar sense after a while. Not only did it feel like some kind of false universe trap, but it was like a mixer forcing you to socialize with people.
The problem is the average modern person is either an idiot or disgusting.
They're making factions in game, so they need people to take sides and promote this spirit of competitiveness like faction MMOs do. But first before that they need people to buy the setting, in this case fleshing out the world with lore and art for people to self insert. I also believe 100% the game will be full of terminals trying to more or less copy the writing style of the original games. They're doing it with a minimum of competence for the ARG bits, they're also focusing more on other things the OG didn't touched at length like mostly the internal workings of the UESC and the corps within. That's fine, is an spin off after all.
I don't care about Marathon legacy.
In fact, if they turned some of my favorite childhood games that are currently dead into pvp (let's say tenchu) I wouldn't care either.
You know why? Because modern AAA single player games suck.
Ask yourself marathongays - would you b***h the same if they announced a single player game? I know you would. Like Preygays. In fact, I played original Prey back in the days so I know that Preygays' b***hing was mostly pathetic attempts of newbies to fit in. Just like with Marathon. I said mostly, I know there are a couple of morons who actually care for some unknown reason
The Prey comparison makes literally no sense, Prey2019 didn’t replace Prey 2, it didn’t even reboot or reference Prey, it was Bethesda making a c**t legal move to squat on the name of an IP. In the universe where Prey 2 happens Prey2019 still exists just under a different name.
Your type will never get it. Yes modern AAA single player games suck. So do modern AAA multiplayer games.
And you know what happens when a new shitty modern AAA game gets released?
The quality of life on this Earth goes down.
Every series that gets raped with an unnecessary and unasked for reboot that pisses off old fans and shits down the necks of newcomers who will gulp it all up out of ignorance is a net increase in the negativity in the world.
All that wasted money, manpower, and time to create something bad is time, money, and manpower spent making the world a subtly worse place.
its a ripoff between cyberpunk and mirrors edge and literally destiny 2 itself, with the braytech facilities and the deepstone crypt and the arcology on titan
Marathon 1 >Dark and gritty (but cartoony) textures, cartoony sprites
Marathon: Durandal >Colorful and stylized textures, less cartoony sprites
Marathon: Infinity >Gritty textures but colorful, same sprites from Durandal
Each game had a different feel so arguing about whether Marathon is dark and gritty or not is really pointless
I think NuMarathon being a MP shooter is unintentionally sobering in a meta narrative context. ‘The Player’ is God in the original series, ‘The Player’ is the ultimate force by virtue of how singleplayer games are designed. Who is God now in a multiplayer lobby? It’s not the players anymore, the game isn’t designed for God to end the universe, the universe is designed to trap God.
Okay I'll be honest guys, from what the devs have seen it seems this game is gonna have a more robust character creator compared to destiny 2 and I think the asian tacticool chicks are hot, so I'll play it just to get my rocks off in a hyper specific fetish
Bungie made the best PvE FPS on the market, still going strong. I'm pretty excited to see what they do here. I believe in them and I'm sure the product will be top quality.
I think this game will be a hit regardlessly. They seem very confident in its ideas and gameplay - since their releasing it in the first place. I think they already have a guarantee from the powers that be that the game will be a success
>UESC
Generic space federation. Has killer cyborgs. >MIDA
Martian terrorists that wanted independence. Somehow still around. Possibly a secret cult with dark connections and power to summon demons >Traxus
Older AI model that went rampant on Mars and got deleted. No idea how it is back. >CyberAcme
Seems to be something completely new. Might have connections to the Jjaro (Acme Station from Infinity)
They have been expanding on the last 3 factions on all the documents from the ARG.
MIDA is not the old one, this is a revival of the old group by an Anarcho-Capitalist group that have started gaining popularity on Mars.
Traxus is one of the companies hat helped UESC terraform mars and made the Traxus AI's that manage the planet.
CyberAcme is the company that makes computers and the OS that terminals and other things run on. Probably a lot of weird deep net frickery
Sakaguchi Genetics. This one is not a faction but is very important as is the company that works as the arma dealer to the rest. They made the product that replaced the Cyborgs, the mass produced, mass cloned biomatas that we will use in game, 3d printed and while not as powerful as a cyborg, they're easy to produce and modify, good enough to get the job done. The ones we will get to use in game are called S-Series, the latest prototype generation.
Cool stuff, anon. I haven't really kept up with the ARG but I probably should. I unironically baseded out when I read about the battleroids in that one bit from the ARG. Seeing the new devs handle the lore has actually been very reassuring that the game (at least the story) will be good.
Cool stuff, anon. I haven't really kept up with the ARG but I probably should. I unironically baseded out when I read about the battleroids in that one bit from the ARG. Seeing the new devs handle the lore has actually been very reassuring that the game (at least the story) will be good.
Also that bit about CyberAcme, apparently the terminals in M1 actually do mention CyberAcme as their name is at the bottom of each terminal. I don't know how I missed that but it's cool nonetheless.
MIDA looks like a bunch of crazy buttholes so Imma go with UESC. Those guys have Battleroids, and we already know what just two of those can do to opposing sides...
Traxus is just Traxus actually, their AI's are named after the company (IV, V). I'm picking UESC, always a Terran loyalist in every single game I can. I feel like CyberAcme is gonna be the least popular one, they're the one hacker runners work for
HYENAS INBOUND DISTRESS ALERT
FORGOTTEN RACE SET TO RUN
HYENAS FOUND
HYENAS WAITIN
LONG WAY
BUT RUNNERS RUN
DISTANCE DONT MATTER
MILITARIZED INFOSEC DEFENSE ASSAULT
SC HUSH-HUSH
CETI OUT THE BAG
NEW GOLD RUSH
OLD WORLD NEW
WHATS WAITIN??
COLONY/OTHER??
INTELLIGENCE/OTHER??
MALCONTENT INTUITION DETECTS APATHY
TRAX ON IT SEKGEN ALL IN
BIG PLAYERS/BIG PLAY
HYENAS WAS HOPE
THEN LOST
WHY HIDE??
NOTHER TRAXIV??
WORSE??
MEMORIES INSIDE DIGITAL ANTIBODIES
CLONES ALLOW RISK
CLONES VITAL TO HOSTILE ENDEAVORS
RUNNERS SET TO CLASH CETI-SIDE
RIVALS GONNA RIVAL
MATERIAL INDULGENCE DEFINES ALTRUISM
TAKERS-KEEPERS RUNNERS CODE
SYNC CLONE/HIT GROUND/SURVIVE/THRIVE
SC DON’T KNOW WHATS COMIN
CETI GONNA BOOM
Every shit game is a net increase of misery in the world. Wasted man hours and disgruntled fans and players.
Think about the political situation of the past 7 years and where this ends.
Alright marathongays, riddle me this:
When this game drops and I inevitably play it because it looks cool, which faction of asshats do I sign up for? UESC?
uh.
the UESC and MIDA are both their own brand of "evil"
the rest are corporations.
I don't know if it would serve you to approach the story from a good vs. evil conception of the world.
being comically evil and hellbent on domination is implied in the word corporation anon.
the problem is these corporations are minor players in the setting.
Since is typical cyberpunk almost all of them are evil to some degree or some dirty secrets to keep. The UESC is Earth's government but apparently at this point in the story they seem to have aspirations of empire and becoming typical Imperium of Man stuff. I like that so I'm okay with it.
UESC is typical ironfist authoritarian space government. They have killer cyborgs made from reanimated corpses. These cyborgs are so deadly they're considered WMDs.
MIDA is an insurrectionist/terrorist cell that wants Martian independence. They may be freedom fighters but they're pretty fricking shady.
Not a lot is known about Traxus. They make AIs.
CyberAcme is what would happen if Microsoft, Apple, and Google all merged into one company.
Depends, what is gonna be the head canon for your runner? Remember that you play as a human whose consciousness is uploaded to the cloud and you know use 3d-printed biological android bodies. Every faction kind of specializes into a thing more than others
CyberAcme is probably gonna be the most schozoid one, you know, dark net, rogue AI's, secret almost esoteric shit. This company is probably very attractive for runners into hacking.
Replaying Marathon 1 now, sending p'fhor flying with a punch is so cash.
The frick happened this time?
PVP game with artificial humans for what I got in the trailer, a Compiler appears briefly.
>Revived Marathon for a PvP looter shooter
I don't think I like video games anymore.
It's even worse, NuBungie can't do pvp
D2 pvp is fricking shit and filled with cheaters
Man that's depressing. I played a dickton of closed battlenet D2 and I don't think I ever saw an obvious cheater, they were all on open battlenet
They don't make them for us anymore. They make them to sell skins to children.
They took an existing IP and raped it until it became a clone of Escape from Tarkov.
Fans of the original IP are furious, and fans of the "Tarkov" genre don't care about it at all. Everybody loses, nobody wins.
> fans of the "Tarkov" genre don't care about it at all.
Only 1/2 correct. A lot of us are at least looking forward to ensuring that players unfamiliar with extraction shooters will suffer the most abusive vidya experience possible. Essentially a being bullied simulator.
But yeah, I can't imagine someone used to Battlefield or CoD will enjoy this type of game. Just being honest here.
Wow how lucky for us to have an embassador for the tarkov community here speaking.
I have like 800 hours in tarkov and this game sounds fricking gay, just like all the sci Fi flavored lite tarkov experiences. Remember The Cycle and Marauders? Yeah exactly
I have 1200 hours in Tarkov and I'm looking forward to it
a sci fi Tarkov has always sounded cool, Marauders and Cycle are shit because they're made by indie devs with no resources or experience
To me, a huge part of tarkovs appeal is that it is gunporn and uses real equipment. I think a lot of the cool factor is lost when you sci Fi it all up. I don't know a single person who plays tarkov purely for the "extraction" part, and in fact most of them say that it sucks after a while. I think the aesthetic carries it heavily.
The idea of destiny designs but "you can lose the gun, bro" just sound like absolute shit
ok but plenty of people like it for the extraction part (me and my friends included), around wipe time we're absolutely addicted to the loop and will put in 12+ hour days
if all I cared about was the guns I'd just play the singleplayer mod like a coward
that being said, I hope Bungie does go all out in the gun department
A first person synthetik with some immersion style elements would be interesting, rather than just a plain tarkov in space but who knows how nu-marathon will play
>year of the rat
I'm afraid it might be
>Fans of the original IP are furious, and fans of the "Tarkov" genre don't care about it at all.
I fall into both categories.
On one hand, this is the most disgusting mismanagement of an existing IP I've seen since the last thing the AAA industry released.
On the other, Tarkov is a horrible experience and the average person playing AAA titles is going to have their shit kicked in, quit the game, and b***h on the forums about being bad at the game.
This is the last thing I wanted to see, all I wanted was someone to pay off the mob to bump off nikita so someone competent can fix Tarkov, not to see Bungie crawl up out of it's grave to start puppeting the corpse of one of the few games they made that hasn't been defiled for "modern audiences".
Tarkov is my most played game and I'm extremely excited for Marathon
I can't wait to leg meta the butthurt boomers ITT
>Fans of the original IP are furious
I don't care at all, it's been dead for so long that it doesn't matter
Then why use it if it's effectively new for zoomers? Might as well make a new IP.
Boomers aren't as upset with the news as people are making them out to be. The announcement was met with disappointment that the game was PvP only, but still happy to be getting something new. Marathon has a great world to set a game in, it was practically begging for a remaster or sequel.
The story was done it didn't need anything besides a remaster
It also doesn't need a remaster because old Bungie is dead
>Marathon has a great world to set a game in, it was practically begging for a remaster or sequel.
Halo. Destiny.
Both are sequels.
The Marathon series is begging for a reboot like Star Wars was in 2014.
Halo is completely different in tone and was from the beginning. I don't care if it has themes about AI and ancient aliens. Destiny actually had an atmosphere that somewhat matched the original trilogy but they very quickly fricked it up by Destiny 2, plus the actual game itself isn't fun to play when it costs like 100 dollaroos a year to play it.
Anon, sequel. Halo is a sequel. Regardless of what you think of the tone.
The rape...of Marathon.....
who fricking cares marathon sucked dicks
well Apex basically asset flipped Titanfall and raped it to death. is there even Marathongays still? sorry i guess, i know the feeling.
Blame Sony buying Bungie for this. They want Games as a Service to Bungie has to bungle an I.P. out since Destiny is floundering.
>Tarkov clone
Ugh no thanks.
For me?
It's the original.
Full of adrenaline, excitement, the mazelike areas, the enemies.
Bro this shit is is FIRE frfr litty AF
>Tarkov clone
you know literally nothing about this game other than the name
They call it an extraction shooter and the vidoc talks about the risk/reward of leaving or staying to try to get more loot
sounds similar but you'll just have to wait and see
>you don't know that though!!!
they've literally described tarkov down to a T in their vidoc.
besides, a once Doom clone now being a Tarkov clone fits. as lucas once said
>how_do_you_know_its_shit_its_not_even_out_yet.jpg
Neither did you until it was announced. Then scurried to a couple different websites to do your homework and be able to larp as the old gamer that totally played the game before it's now mainstream.
That's what "Extraction Shooter" means. It's like saying your game is a "Battle Royale" when you could just say it's like Fortnite or a Pub G clone.
Whoever is playing this plays games like a journalist
reminds me of NeoTokyo
Fricking loved Neo Tokyo
Based and exactly
it just looks like neotokyo
Marathons a bit more colorful than the more grounded cyberpunk ghost in the shell that NeoTokyo had. feels more like mirror edges but this time you can actually shoot back.
Bungie really sold themselves to this idea of multiplayer.
It became like a core part of their philosophy: that games *should* be played multiplayer.
Destiny 1 was marketed with Rudyard Kiplings "Law of the Jungle" poem about "the strength of the wolf is the pack" and they talked in vidocs about how Destiny was meant to be played with friends.
It turned out Destiny was carefully designed to pretty much only be fun with friends. It was fricking boring and empty if you tried to play anything single player.
This Marathon-reboot trailer is driving home the same message: we know it's an extraction shooter, so it depicts a single dude playing the game on his own, who gets taken out by a team of players.
There's nothing wrong with multiplayer in principle, and while I've never played one, the idea of an extraction shooter sounds fun.
But the very idea of multiplayer and "playing as a team" and all of that, the new direction Bungie has been going in since 2015: it's the polar opposite of the story of the original Marathon games.
Like it's completely opposed to the themes of those games.
They should have just named it something else.
>"In Marathon, you're a runner"
>MUH CYBERPUNK
>"It's soooooo cool guys!"
>Interviewee job title is "Social Lead"
>"You and your Crew(tm) can Pick your Playstyle(tm)"
>"Every choice you make matters"
>"""SEASONS"""
>Artstyle is nothing like the originals
>Crossplay, meaning PC players have to deal with hardware aimhax from controller players, and console players have to deal with actual aimhax from PC players
Jesus, our motherfricking LORD AND SAVOIR CHRIST, what the FRICK were they thinking?
>he/him in the trailer
Jesus, I remember when they used casual jokes about race to describe their employees like 10-15 years ago, what happened?
> every designer interviewed has their pronoun/pronoun above their job job title...
>In Marathon, you're a runner"
Frick, I'm certain at this point that the women in charge of this clusterfrick thought it was a reference to the sport and not the battle it was named in honor of.
>OH MARATHON, LIKE WHEN PEOPLE RUN RIGHT?
it's more like the location, that the sport is also named afte-
>LETS CALL THEM RUNNERS, JUST LIKE IN DYING LIGHT AND MIRRORS EDGE, THAT SOUNDS COOL
>I'm certain at this point that the women in charge
About that
so how many male employees has this guy fricked?
if I had to put money down, it would be 3
dude why are there so many trans people in these game dev positions? i don't mind trans people, but you don't really see them concentrated in other fields or industries.
They have been specifically scouted and then paraded around in the public to virtue signal the company. I'm sure the exact % is very small normally, across any other industry. I don't have anything against these guys really but it's how the companies itself force and represent them, this itself is a problem.
THAT'S A MAN, BABY
I wonder if the guys that flash you will show up.
Fells like it was an OG IP and they just slapped the name of a popular old franchise on to of it, which is strange because only 5 people 2 of which browse Ganker even remember Marathon.
There is S'pht in the trailer? Kinda? Probably some lore shit and won't even appear in the game
Wrong
I'll corner gun them down with my cyberwaifu (using the enhanced gun camera vision module I took from your corpse)
I'm 100% making a Major ripoff
Mandalore did a video about the series recently, lotsa people learned about it, devs looking for a title included
Mandalore's video did frick all, there have always been tons of active Marathon players on Ganker.
hahahahahahaha you people are delusional
Why would so many people be so outraged now, if that weren't the case?
because Ganker is addicted to outrage
Ganker is only ever outraged when it's deserved. Most of them have already played Marathon, of course they'd be mad.
>Ganker is only ever outraged when it's deserved.
lol
>Mandalore's video did frick all, there have always been tons of active Marathon players on Ganker.
If they where, they sure liked to ignore my threads.
If people didn't join your threads, then the issue is probably with you and not the game. A lot of posters disassociate from games if the fanbase is bad.
you have to start threads for any game with bait but not bait bad enough to overwhelm your topic
have fun
most of the gays on here are Black folk nowadays. They dont give a frick about anything but fighting games and nintendo
Who the frick talks about Ganker here? Broad avrrage of gamer normies learned
It's why I despise those videos. Marathon didn't need new people, everyone interested has already found it.
Well it honestly doesn't matter in Marathon's case. Halo kiddies already got to it.
You can tell their posts because they post like little /b/tier homosexuals
>Halo kiddies already got to it.
Not really though. I remember telling kids in middle/high school in Halo's heyday about Marathon and no one heard of it, let alone gave a shit.
I remember watching it and having absolutely no desire to actually play any of the marathon games
but the lore was actually fricking wild honestly
also I liked the schizo bits Mandalore inserted into it, motherfricker has fun making his videos
>They had the fricking BALLS to use a clip from the Halo 3 launch night to promote their shitshow of a tarkov clone
Absolutely disgusting
Are we at least past the "verticality" meme?
I'm so sad
is nothing like the originals
but it's still good
agree with everything else, they are trying to impress the normalgays and reddit audience with their marketing words
The fact that nobody is speaking out against this shit shows how little people actually know about this series.
I want to punch these devs in the face
I'm way past the point of getting upset, this shit is just funny to me now. Not for me, life goes on.
So this is the Bungie that you all prefer to 343...
>So this is the Bungie that you all prefer to 343...
No Anon, the Bungie everyone prefers is long gone.
It's been over for 30 years
It's been over ever since Infinity came out anon. Literally everyone that worked on Marathon left Bungie before Halo.
Not even remotely true
Yeah, my bad. Correction, it was like 80% of the Marathon team that left Bungie.
>marathonbros
WHO???????????
it was a mac game, I have never once heard Ganker rep marathon before the mandalore video. I would shove a shotgun into my mouth and pull the trigger if anyone could find even once archived thread prior to 2022 that talked about Marathon.
Now stream your own suicide.
wanna try again moron
do you not know how to check the archive?
I want you to post the picture so everyone can see what the thread was really about lol
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/509506514/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/508939917/
Don't have a nice day though anon, we'd have no one to laugh at.
>Last mention from the deeply enthusiastic marathon community is from 3 years ago
Also
>It was a Mac game
It's been available on Windows and Linux for fricking years.
Reliably in every thread
Check on /vr/ you morons.
morons in this thread seem to have forgotten that tarkov is pc only
console gays will love this game
the fact is the visual style bungie achieves shits on the entire industry. this game will sell consoles by itself
>console gays will love this game
Not when they bump into someone spinbotting through the air every other match thanks to the unholy combination that is crossplay, the unrivaled salt Tarkov brings out in people, and Bungi's inability to write a competent anti-cheat.
you can guess at the gameplay all you like but the visual style will easily hype enough sales to make it a financial success
And it'll be dead in a couple weeks when everyone's sick of getting instakilled by WomanSlayer69_1488 the human helicopter.
>bungie game dead in a couple weeks
I wouldn't count on that
as much as they sniff their own farts, they are some of the best in the industry when it comes to gunplay and art direction. thats enough to keep people hooked for a good while even if everything else is dog shit
Yea but they'll never get the approval of their dads
Destiny 2 is still extremely popular on PC despite its multiple issues and doesn't really have a cheater problem
yeah but thats mainly because it's primarily PvE
marathon being all PvP is going to invite the cheater mass
they just need to not make it F2P and that's already 80% of the cheaters gone
destiny is F2P and they want to compete with Tarkov
80% chance marathon is F2P
only reason they haven't said so yet is so they can have another PR resurgence in a few months
>the fact is the visual style bungie achieves shits on the entire industry.
It's just Homeworld
>It's just Homeworld
Holy frick, you're right, someone just looked at the cutscenes from the remaster and said "THAT!".
Yea, and it looks derivative. It's Homeworld + every Artstation sci-fi concept art page.
Never played Marathon before and since Ganker won't shut up about it, I decided to give it a try. Got this far into a level called "Never Burn Money". It's really fun tbh
use aleph one if you're not shitposting
morono thats literally aleph one
then enable advanced HUD for fullscreen.
>removing the based as frick over-designed original HUD
very nice, enjoy it. make sure to turn on the enhanced hud.
i looked up videos of the trailer and there are no people complaining. they're all excited about it being developed by Bungie
All they had to do was just literally copy Craig Mullins' work and adapt it to the game
>But the original games looked nothing li-
Silence shills. You won't understand.
Ganker BTFO!!!!
This is the exact same mentality that killed WoW, fricked DICE's reputation, ruined Halo, etc.
Looks like the unfinished Unreal Tournament with green highlighter everywhere
We are never getting another popular arena shooter again. Zoomers have doomed us to hero shooter skin sellers until we die.
zoomers have nothing to do with the death of arena shooters, arena shooter gays do
ive completely forgotten this was a thing and only remembered UT3 until now.
i dont know whats better.
Every single time I've heard of Marathon, it was always in relation to Bungie's other games like Halo or Destiny. I never saw a single clip of Marathon gameplay until 2022. You can't tell me there are actual fans of this thing.
Argument from anecdote, sounds like a you-problem.
even when it was out, it was lukewarm reception. most of the news came from people suffering motion sickness. they had to do a recall
90% of marathon's positive reception is from the references in halo
the only fans were macgays who finally had 1(ONE) video game on their shit excuse for PC's.
It wasn't that great, as you can see, but since it was the only real video game on a mac they fellated themselves to it endlessly.
The only person I knew who had a mac back then had one because his dad was a graphic designer. made sense back then because photoshop wasn't on PC yet. his dad was an insufferable macgay as well.
Mac indie shareware scene was always a thing. You missed out.
For me, it's
marathoncels... are we blaming mandalor??
You have autism frick off
autism on Ganker? say it ain't so!
Autism is a power not a curse, use it for good like discussing games and not for evil like discussing homosexual youtubers
>Zoomers pretending to care about another long-forgotten franchise they literally didn't know about until a new game was revealed.
Can't wait for some random shit like Ring of Red or Murakumo to get a sequel so all you disingenuous fricks can pretend like you're fans of that too
Zoomers have been LARPing as long time fans of marathon since the eceleb review bro
I haven't watched a game review since like 2018 and even then I don't watch any reviews that have been posted after 2013
>this is the best cope nu-bungi fans can produce
It's over.
What the frick even is Tarkov anyway? I'm watching some gameplay now and its just some guy running around an abandoned building grabbing shit. What the frick is this shit?
basically you try to loot cool guns and equipment off the corpses of npc enemies or players and then get out without dying.
most of the time you just get popped in the head from someone in a bush tho
It's a LARP simulator.
>/k/ levels of guntism
>firefights with an insanely fast TTK
>bunch of "muh realism" style mechanics
>all bundled into a looter shooter
It's not the kind of game everyone's gonna enjoy.
If you're looking at it going "this looks kinda dumb", stay the frick away from it because you're REALLY not gonna like it.
Did not read. Thanks for the free (You)s.
based marathon concept art poster
thats literally the entire game. thats tarkov
You absolutely did read.
Nothing better than when a seething moron says this. That's how you know you're right.
Frick your shitty bungie MAC GAME. Holy shit "Nubungie"? Bungie has always been garbage. From the mac to the console from the shithole to the trashdump.
You hate pvp shooters because you're bad. The sooner you admit it the sooner you'll stop being such a whiny b***h
Well at the very least more schizo kino is coming on the lore department.
Greg Kirkpatrick fricked off a long time ago. Another finger on the monkey's paw curls.
I have no horse in this race but I get that it sucks that they bring back a franchise that you like just for them to strip everything but the name and retrofitted into a completely different experience.
>that you like
well im happy to inform you that no one cared about marathon
Everyone has "that game" the fact that so little people actually care is what makes it tragic, nobody cares, nobody pities.
If they revived Dangerous Dave as a queer shooter I would be in the same boat
it was a shit game from fricking 1994. the only thing it had going for it was the interesting aesthetics. very much like system shock. The main issue is that extraction shooters are cancer. There's no way for a normal person to have fun playing one.
a f2p tarkov clone on any of the big platforms would be the first game to make 1 trillion dollars
there's already The Cycle and it's shit.
full of hackers. soon as they get banned they just make a new account.
imagine getting mindbroken by MARATHON out of all games
>Mararthonbros
>all 3 of you
Marathon players stick together.
Why are people like you, and Bungie for that matter, desperate for the approval of people like me?
How much do you guys want to bet the tagline will be something like "Run and Gun" get it? Like a marathon hahahahaha woooaoaoh
THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!
THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!
AARGH!
DOA.
Frick them. Marathon is not PvP bollocks.
I'm enraged
Tarkov chads OWN you never forget that
CoD? ours now
BF? ours now
your gay little 2d shooter that no one played? ours now
>n-no one actually cares about Marathon!
>y-you only know about it because internet review man told you about it!
Yes, and I deeply enjoyed my time with a classic game I wasn't around to enjoy originally, coming to understand and appreciate why the few that played it cherish it so much.
I am greatly saddened to see it dragged out of the grave to be used as a vessel to shill a mediocre looter shooter made by yet another creatively bankrupt company that once made games for a niche audience that enjoyed them for what they were.
Agreed
Well said.
Based take, Ganker is just homosexual zoomers larping as boomers
I honor you, younger brother
/thread
The quality of discussion on this board would skyrocket with more posts as coherent as this.
Take a look at the Discord. It's a bunch of idiots screaming that "PVP WAS ALWAYS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART!"
>we here at bungie need another fricking destiny/war frame clone.
it's crazy how many doomposters have no idea at all what they're talking about
still waiting for someone to post a thread about Ganker discussing marathon the game
one was already posted. you can also easily just check the archive yourself.
alright since you asked for it, heres the thread discussing "marathon"
Marathon will never get a better sequel than Halo.
Marathon is Halo schizophrenic dad, who while functional most of the time you often see mumbling to himself and stays a lot of time in his room writing stuff.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/343585205/
A 16 post thread 7 years ago that literally starts with "no one remembers Marathon"
amazing
it's the earliest one that's in the archive. there are hundreds of threads about the games. are you incapable of checking yourself?
He's just an eceleb obsessed homosexual.
I made a thread like two month ago, it had like 5 people in it.
ITS LITERALLY JUST DESTINY??
Is there a single western AAA left that isn't producing trend chasing dogshit? please someone, I need a job but its so dire I cant even bring myself to apply for anything.
What the frick is that artstyle? It's like the Bungie equivalent to 343's Halo artstyle. Marathonbros, we were fricking robbed.
>What the frick is that artstyle?
Its called, "we liked Cyberpunk the anime not the game, artstyle"
Honestly, the artstyle is like, my least concern. My biggest concern is how it's fricking PVPslop.
marathon and halo have shit art direction. Early 343 and this are much more interesting but you're blinded by nostalgia. Halo infinite was the most boring sci-fi aesthetic I've seen in a decade and OG marathon looks like the most basic boomer shit I've ever seen.
Nope.
Sorry boomer but your taste is shit and you're out of touch. Your rampant nostalgia already ruined halo, starwars and every other major Sci-Fi universe, its time to retire your delusional nostalgia crusade.
No.
NTA but I never felt any nostalgia for Marathon. I only recently learned about it. Like, 7 years ago, back in 8th grade.
When I see what my favorite game has become I feel genuinely depressed
your favorite game didn't become anything its still there, this is not a marathon game its a GAAS abortion with a shiny skin. you were never getting a true sequel and what is depressing isn't that this crusty dead series is still dead, its that bungie and the entire western big budget industry is dead and will never make anything cool again.
It'll fall apart soon enough. Just don't buy trash like this.
once it collapses its not coming back. Even in Japan the only developers making cool shit trace back to before the current collapse. Indies will be absorbed into the AI slop machine before they can reach the complexity of golden age AAA.
I think this image sums up Marathon really well.
The oppressive claustrophobic feeling, especially in the early game. And then there's troonython.
Don't you dare give me that. The most that can come out of this is more people playing the OGs and getting mad at Bungie for pulling this
don't feed him hes a schizophrenic born male. One of those nut case trannies that thinks Grogs are nazis
This is what Nu-Marathon's art direction boils down to.
Agreed. It was colorful, but the colors had depth
TOO FRICKING REAL
The new art style is designed around laziness.
>Monoliths
>Simple, lazy rectangular firearms.
>Tubes
>Nearly featureless textures
>"Details" are just random words and symbols, not even made from scratch.
>Mannequin androids.
>Any style is poorly plagiarized from distinct sources.
It's embarrassing.
sounds like you're describing the original games lmao
Sounds like you've never played the original games.
The original was more cartoonish than this but it STILL had detail
The frick you saying, original is literally craig photobashing random shit together.
And it still looks better because it has details
Damn, Craig Mullins had some of the best art direction in the video game industry and he did it all by bashing shit together? That's insane.
Well he invented it so yes.
still more interesting than literal generic space marine tm with a bike helmet.
How do you call this aesthetic? Bluecollar punk?
>Bluecollar punk?
holy shit it's called sci fi you ESL moron
Sci fi is too much broad of a term, I want to know how do you call that esthetic with industrial looking spaceships like in Alien
grunge? industrial. Yeah Marathon had that Alien thing going but it also had the classic nasa/space thing going.
It was the future as seen from the perspective of 90s people
I know what you mean - dystopian, industrial, lived in. If designers have a particular term I'm not sure off hand what it is. Certainly a lot of cues taken from WWII submarines as well.
Not like the original content had that much detail, and it's artstyle sucked hard. The only good thing, artwise and design-wise is just from fanart, but yeah you're right. What they're doing now is fricking awful
thanks doc
Cool and on point
iPad commercial artstyle, thats what
But it worked so well for Shadowrun?
That is the perfect comparison.
everyone complaining about pvp is just bad at games FACT
Shut the frick up. It's not that I suck at PVP, I just think removing part of what made Marathon so special, that being it's singleplayer campaign and focused narrative, is a mistake.
I don't care what they said, you physically cannot write a good story in multiplayer-only shit
mad cos bad
I don't mind PVP but I despise multiplayer only products. I'm not going to get invested in a new IP or a reinvention of one that has nothing to hold onto beyond season pass skins and preorder bonus hats.
>pays $80 for yearly destiny content which that remove from the game later on
what a joke lmao
>*which they'll remove from the game later on
I'm going to bed, frick you nu-bungie shills
I like the new art direction
>he thinks hes norman rockwell by regurgitating what the nu-bungie drones are saying
so theres two kinda trainees trolling these threads
troony 1 tries to gaslight you! Marathon was never about singleplayer!
troony 2 Marathon and Bungie were never good.
>game industry once again reminding me of how ancient i am
You need to be at least 40yo to remember playing marathon
i'm 36 and got it as a kid
32 and i grew up playing bungie games because my dad was a macgay
>marathon
>oni
>myth
>pid and gnop not listed
poseur you know nothing of glorious bungie
PiD was amazing in the original format. None of that Aleph One porting, just classic System 7 windows and rapid pausing.
>omg you didn't play abuse or pathways you're not a real fan!
i guess i'm a poser then, but bungie was a huge part of my childhood and i'll never forget those games for as long as i live
b***h I'm 21
early 30s. Any obsessive Halo fan is at least familiar with it.
I'm 28, I played it because my dad played it.
>pseudo intellectual
I don't think that really fits into your post, anon. Maybe use a different buzzword?
Marathon was i think the first computer game i ever got.
Along with a copy of Myth and Diablo.
All 10/10 games and really influenced my bias on what games are supposed to be about
Could some good anon explain to me what's going on? The guys are going to resurrect an ancient franchise and people are angry about it?
they rebooted an old franchise that had the first real singleplayer narrative fps campaign. They rebooted it as a fotm pvp loot and shoot game.
How do we speak out against this?
I think this is why you're not allowed to criticize it on Twitter
Marathon as a series were relatively mediocre doom clones for the mac, but they had some ridiculously cool lore.
Bungie, the original developers of the Marathon games are reviving it with a reboot, but turning it into a games-as-a-service extraction shooter (which is apparently a genre, but I've only ever heard of Escape from Tarkov - apparently it's fortnite for adults).
Basically everybody hates current year Bungie because of Destiny, which is difficult to even begin to explain why it's bad.
But I guess we could start with the fact that Bungie removed paid content from the game: you paid 60$ for Destiny 2 in 2019? basically everything that was on that disc has been removed from the current iteration of the game. Money stolen, basically.
>Could some good anon explain to me what's going on? The guys are going to resurrect an ancient franchise and people are angry about it?
To put it simply:
>Marathon was loved by a niche audience, like most of Bungie's old games
>Marathon got brought up after a while and exposed to an entirely new audience through platforms like YouTube
>Thanks to a source port, you can play it on almost any platform now
>People not even around for the original game play Marathon and enjoy it
>Bungie sees this and decides to take the niche classic with a dedicated fan base and really interesting lore, and throw it all away on a live service looter shooter that looks nothing like the original game
If they're robots, why are they black-asian women?
What do you think?
WHAT THE FRICK IS WRONG WITH BUNGIE
When your Bungie cord is too taut, it snaps back.
this looks gay af
like they're trying to tick all red flags
okay lads, after seeing the threads about this game i want to try the original. is downloading from here legit? because i don't want to have to go through the effort of emulating a mac
https://alephone.lhowon.org/
Yeah, Aleph One is literally the last bastion of the OGthon community.
Yes, it's legit. I miss the original Marathon 1 HUD though.
alright, cheers lads
Yep. It's legit. Runs great on windows.
Yes, be sure to look up how to make it fullscreen though
Yeah that's the legit one, it also comes with a few things you might want to turn on to make the fov and controls function better than just emulating it.
You can change HUDs according to your tastes through Preferences > Environment > Plugins. The 'Plugin' text on the Environment tab is actually a button.
I literally knew Marathon through Hop lmao
I knew about Marathon before Mandalore. Does this make me stupid?
No.
>MJRNS
I remember getting Marathon for Christmas maybe a year after it came out, in the amazing triangular retail box. I think I still have the manuals and original disks for the trilogy somewhere in my house.
Why the frick does everyone think mandalore is the only reason people know about this series? If you were a Halo gay in the 2000s you likely heard of it.
yeah it was fricking awful as an og fan. When the Halo kiddies found out about it
I was one of those kiddies, lmao.
That's the thing people usually discover these things in waves. Some homosexuals go insane thinking you could've only heard of this game from an eceleb when lots got into it around alephone release or through being a fan of Halo as well as the mandalore video.
Funny story. When i was a teen a group of halo fanboys just found out about Marathon.
They found out I knew about Marathon, so a big group of them came to meet me and have an audience with me. They all stood around worshipping me like i was the bearer of sacred esoteric knowledge. It was really strange
Did you bust out your W'rkncacnter and frick their tight little boipussies?
Cortana letters explicitly led the Marathon fan community in the lead up to Halo's reveal as well.
It's Ganker's contrarian nature going into overdrive. Also usually when sseth or Mandalore releases a new video a thread or two willl pop up. I don't mind since it can get new people into older games but again Ganker hates it. If you didn't find out about some game from 1993 on an obscure forum on dialup you're a poser and should die. Nobody should ever play or talk about games apparently.
People here are posers because they not only recently just heard about marathon, they haven't even played it. It's like getting mad a band is changing up their sound when you never even listened to a single album
Okay but how do you know that? Like genuinely how could you possibly know that other than just wanting it to be true? Every person in this thread could be a 14 year old poser, including YOU, or we're all 40 year olds angry that our favorite game series is getting buttfricked. Or somewhere inbetween.
Because I know how numbers work. Sure the entirety of the internet's actual marathon fans who have played the game could all be in this thread, but there are GENEROUSLY maybe a couple thousand in the entire history of this website just based on how available the game was and how often it is mentioned literally anywhere else on the internet.
>GENEROUSLY maybe a couple thousand in the entire history of this website just based on how available the game was
The game's been available for free for fricking years it's not been hard to get into and has been fairly popular in the Halo community for years. Your numbers are fricked.
if you want to play Marathon but its too old for ypu and you want 3d
http://resurrection.bungie.org/download.html
this was quietly released.
Its Marathon in 3d in unreal
>NetEase
>GaaS
>extraction shooter
>black guy in the vidoc talking about how you have to piece 'artifacts' together before extracting
So this was going to be an NFT game originally right?
>NetEase
Well, there's your problem.
>We'll never get a high concept sci-fi odyssey again.
>We won't be playing as what is essentially the antibodies and gut biome of a transcendent being.
>We won't be travelling across the universe until space itself fades away.
I'll pass.
I'll do it anon. I will make that game that we all deserve. I don't care what it takes, I'll do it. Screencap this, frens.
>tfw was Bungie's biggest fan pre-halo
>played PiD, Marathon, Myth, Abuse, Oni
>all the fan stuff too
>get told im fake by screeching halo kiddies or gays that found out about it on youtub
lol
>giving a shit what others think, of being a "genuine" fan
verified spooked
im not i dont care anymore
Abuse wasn't Bungie, they only published it.
i know... neither was the unofficial Myth 2 expansion packs, there were a couple.
Neither was Myth 3 the Wolf Age. Still liked it.
People keep calling us posers.
It was over ages ago. Now the corpse is being dug up by graverobbers to steal any last brand recognition available.
Made this in 10 minutes in paint. Thought it was funny.
>the last thing a r*nner sees
Don't fricking tell me they're actually putting him in the game
I really hope not because they'll do something AWFUL with him, absolutely. They'll pull some Joel shit and have a Runner kill him just to show how COOL and CAPABLE they are
Exactly. They already fricking did this with the Marathon itself
>new generation ship destroying it and recycling the debris
Bet the troons thought they were being subtle.
Like, holy shit. Can you IMAGINE how fricking obliterated he's going to get by some STRONG INDEPENDANT WAHMEN?
Wasn't the Marathon literally moon sized?
The Marathon was a moon.
So the ship in the trailer is longer that a moon? I've seen stuff like that in Gunbuster but I liked the whole idea of a generational spaceship carved inside a moon.
The Marathon is a moon, it's Deimos.
youre a great man
Man, imagine a world where Bungie decided to make a modern Myth game instead of this fotm trash.
Destiny barely crawled its way to playability over two games and nearly 10 years so now they only care about that live service gold rush
>Modern myth game
Knowing how this turned out I'd expect it to be a moba.
fair point
theres actually been a bunch of Myth clones on steam. I think one is called Nordic warriors or something
>people thinking 2023 bungie was going to put out a single player game when they damn newr revolutionized the concept of milking money off of players with a cash shop.
Kek.
I thought the trailer was cool. It's bungie so the game will definitely be dogshit but the trailer was nice.
If you thought the trailer was cool, you should check out the Vidoc. It's really cool how committed Bungie is to the cyberpunk dystopia aesthetic.
Are you talking about this?
I really don't give a shit about that arg shit. I just thought the art direction was nice. And IMO Bungie is a complete homosexual trying to capitalize on a metagame treasure hunt after the D1 Rasputin bullshit.
Trailer had nice direction, that's all. Bungie is a shell of an actual developer and won't make another good game.
I was making a joke about how dystopian the vidoc is. They're all overweight trannies feigning forced positivity over their gaas that's no doubt designed to trick people into throwing money at it like every gaas, which is like something you'd read in the flavortext about an evil corporation in a cyberpunk rpg rulebook.
>I can actually browse Ganker and talk about cool Marathon lore
>lots of zoomies downloading Aleph One and enjoying the games for themselves
>get to look forward to some new col lore, if it sucks oh well who cares the old games still exist lmao
It's actually never been a better time to be a Marathon fan. If only Aleph One had a fraction of the features that gzdoom supports.
>trying to spin this as an optimistic thing
Not generally a fan of the soul vs. soulless meme, but of those two, there is one type that could see this situation as positive.
>Game is good
>I get to enjoy a new Marathon game, even if it's PvP shit
>Game is bad
>I ignore it and move on with my life
Or you can choose the third option and seethe about it online even though the only thing we know about it is a CGI trailer.
Not too bright are you.
Unless they go the Apex angle and have the Officer as a completely different class of killing machine compared to the Runners, I'll riot
Aesthetic isn't my problem. My problem is the lack of singleplayer. They really have this much confidence in it do they?
i mean how hard is it to make a sp campaign. Is it the writing? why not just hire the original writer, why not use an unused story.
Even devs that are making mp sandbox games are now focusing on sp because they know solo players are a huge dedicated market.
They really couldn't just, I dunno, make a singleplayer option where you uncover secrets and fight enemies in a big open map?
i'd love that, then they could have an optional shared world mode for mp.
Why can't devs figure it out.
Singleplayer is the hardest and most expensive part of making an FPS
Is it now?
for a AAA studio yes
>voice acting
>cutscenes
>mocap
>far more unique assets than MP
>voice acting
>cutscenes
>mocap
None of these are necessary for a Marathon SP
a AAA studio is not going to make a game without those things
>but the OG Marathon fans wouldn't mind
there aren't enough of them
>terminals
>cutscenes
dont need em
>mo cap
will already be in the game
>unique assets
c'mon now you know they are going to be constantly making loot and cosmetic assets
Highly doubt that. I don’t work in the industry but I’d wager making a solid single player FPS is much easier than making a big multiplayer game that actually takes off. Look at all the flops there’s been
ironically the easiest thing to make is a sandbox open world.
I always chuckle when no-devs say open world are massive AAA only projects.
MP requires a ton of work
This announcement has finally, after a decade of being curious about this series, made me buy Marathon Durandal on Xbox (I know I can get the games for free but I like achievements). I’ve always been a Halo fan and there’s a copious amount of story and enemies in Halo that are lifted from Marathon. The connections go way deeper than I ever thought when I actually looked into it. Also I’ll add that unlike Ganker‘s immediate overreaction to the announcement of the new game, I’m actually looking forward to it and I have high hopes. It’s gonna be such a relief playing a Bungie MP FPS again that isn’t a pseudo-MMO
What is this shitty indie game and why are gays acting like its some kind of massive title? Literally never heard of it outside of the PS5 conference.
oh god. the fricking weightlessness to everything. This was a problem with Destiny and it's a problem in a lot of sci-fi now.
The Marathon was carved out of Deimos, making it a huge object. And the project to create the Marathon took over 100 years, right? And the actual crewed parts of it were a fraction of the moon's interior mass.
Ship was also created while the UESC was struggling to keep control of the colonies/the colony worlds were starving and rioting: resources were not rich...
Having this nu-Marathon ship be like twice the size of the moon implies a level of technology and prosperity that the UESC simply shouldn't have.
>Having this nu-Marathon ship be like twice the size of the moon implies a level of technology and prosperity that the UESC simply shouldn't have.
Marathon left Sol in 2472. This game takes place in 2850. It's been 400 years. That's a long time to develop tech and for things to change.
I really do just hope they treat Mjolnir Recon and Durandal with the respect they deserve. If they mention either of them, it needs to be through bated breath. Like legends. Akin to Karl in Deep Rock Galactic
Considering that the entire colony of Tau Ceti is gone without a trace, I doubt the UESC even knows about what happened to Durandal or the SO. They're likely considered dead/gone.
Blake is still a thing though. If he did get back he probably told someone
The leading theory right now seems to be that this reboot takes place in the successful Infinity timeline, which means that Robert Blake never escape with his BOBs on Lhowon. However, we also don't know what happened to the SO and the BOBs in Lhowon after the Spht'Kr arrived in Infinity. We assume they travelled to Earth, but the current ARG doesn't mention their existence.
Yeah, what happened to the SO in the successful timeline?
The Durandal timeline was successful too
>inb4 the start of Infinity is the continuation of the Durandal timeline
No
>The Durandal timeline was successful too
Did you forget the part where the spooky one is freed from Lhowon's sun?
i always assumed the stuff you pull in infinity also saved that timeline
Also, it's heavily debatable whether or not the W'rkncacnter even truly "exist". It takes a different form every time it appears, depending on the perspective of the observer.
400 years is 400 years, but idk if I could believe they'd get their shit together in even that amount of time.
It's more like this tech was made in 2550, since it takes 300 years to get to Tau Ceti and there's no FTL (until Durandal invents it.)
Original Marathon also took place around 2770 because of that travel delay.
We don't know if newer humans developed FTL on their own or found Jjaro tech. It's revealed in M2 that Jjaro tech is usually found abandoned on various moons across the galaxy, so humans could've discovered something important.
I thought it was implied somewhere they found some interesting shit on Mars or in the vicinity. It's been a long time though.
The people making this trash likely never spend time outside. They've never interacted with real machinery. It's no wonder everything they make looks like hollow plastic; that's their world.
>video game devs don't work on oil rigs
what exactly is your point here
It's weird to see this written; Bungie used to have the best gun guys in the business. All the equipment in H1-3 felt pretty grounded on the human side. I never played Destiny but I understand that held true even with that one.
>I never played Destiny but I understand that held true even with that one.
lol. LMAO even
nah with Destiny they started doing some extremely stupid weapon designs
Who was responsible for writing the ilovebees production? That had some great writing in it, I wish they had turned that into an anime or something.
ilovebees was conceived by 42 Entertainment, a company whose specialty was creating ARG's for marketing purposes. They got contracted by Bungie because one of the employees at 42E used to work for Xbox's marketing department.
They did a great job on the writing then.
Yeah, they did some ARG stuff for The Dark Knight and Tron Legacy later on, but since then they haven't been doing anything.
Dear god. It's Dead Rising 4 all over again. LEARN AND APPRECIATE THE SOURCE MATERIAL BEFORE YOU MAKE A SEQUEL YOU FRICKING homosexualS
Honestly if they had announced a fricking mobile game it wouldnt have hurt worse than this because there will be a non-negligable amount of shitskin zoomers who will actually pay money for this corpse rape reboot.
>dead IP that would otherwise rot in some dark cellar until completely forgotten
>oh no, a new product comes out that may or may not revive some interest in the brand
I don't get it - wtf are you gays complaining about? It's not like Bungie was going to release any sort of single player game in that universe. At least this way, if this abortion is even mildly successful there's a chance that something good might eventually happen with the IP.
How about I frick your mother, it's not like she's getting anything right now anyway right? You should be glad she's getting some attention.
I'm complaining about them reviving it poorly
Marathon isn't fun to play these days. It was so cool because of the physics, where you could launch an enemy across the room if you blew them up with a rocket. The physics were strange in that if you flung somebody against a wall, it would take a couple of seconds for their inertia to reduce to zero and drop to the floor. So they would be sort of "pinned" against the wall for a moment if you really hit them hard. It was kind of comical.
It was also really violent. The death animations for the pfhor and the bobs are really explicit, with intestines and organs going everywhere.
It also came with a physics editor so you could change everything like gravity, or weapon properties, projectile speeds, explosion forces, etc. It was my first introduction to game modding so it was really cool to me.
Marathon has cool ass lore. Bungie has never made anything as cool since and frankly I don’t think they’re capable of it. If they’re going to ruin it, better to unmistakably frick it up than have a bluepoint situation where a shittier product replaces a classic. This is a blessing in disguise
Myth was pretty cool in terms of lore as well.
>This is a blessing in disguise
This is some serious cope.
Before Halo, they were a very hip company. The idea of being a cool stylish game company didn't exist back then. Yet Bungie was like that, they were making cool stuff and had a cool image.
And Double Aught, a Bungie spinoff, literally won an award for having one of the most aesthetic websites of the 90s
That doesn't happen in Durandal
Man everything about the story of Infinity is a fricking rabbit hole of nonsensical insanity.
Isn't Infinity a retcon of the games? It's like the videogame equivalent of X-Men's Days of Future Past lmao
An eldritch being twist reality so much that you just thought different iterations of the same timeline.
I mean considering the plot of Infinity is basically you're stuck in a timeloop trying to figure out how to stop the unfrickening of the universe as you know it and 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all your attempts lead to catastrophic universal total death. Yeah? Of course its nonsensical insanity. Almost nothing is going right and your brain is falling apart as you keep looping more and more and more. You're literally experiencing rampancy with each loop until you somehow figure it out at the very end and go meta-stable.
>That doesn't happen in Durandal
It does happen in Durandal. Just because M2 ends with an epilogue doesn't mean that the timeline wasn't eventually corrupted.
The epilogue is mutually exclusive of one where the W'rkncacnter are unleashed, unless you're going to assume that for some reason they stayed dormant for several years and Durandal was around to discover the solution and stop them.
Not a retcon per se, it's basically Borges' The Garden of Forking Paths applied to the Marathon universe.
My interpretation of the epilogue is that it is either a deliberate ruse to troll the player into believing a happy ending, a "what if" ending, or it did actually happen but time and space were fricked by the W'rkncacnter and that timeline ceased to exist. I don't really know if that third option is possible as it's never fully explained the extent of the spooky one's powers to defy logic.
>My interpretation of the epilogue is that it is either a deliberate ruse to troll the player into believing a happy ending
This is objectively false because the design notes show they set it up to provide latitude for future planet exploration for a third game, only for Bungie to give the writing over to Double Aught who completely changed the concept. I'm not saying the happy ending can't be false if Infinity is canon (and I consider it to be), but I don't see where Infinity explicitly states that Durandal's was a failed timeline, nor where it is certain that there can be only one successful timeline.
Test
Are we getting an image like this but for Marathon?
Battleroids exist in nuMarathon, but they're canonically not allowed by the UESC to go to Tau Ceti.
It isn't stated anywhere that there is only one successful timeline. I'm aware that Infinity was originally going to be Bloodtides of Lh'owon, but I think the direction of future Marathon projects always had the W'rkncacnter in mind, otherwise why would they explicitly mention their existence in the sun and then have the game end with the sun blowing up?
>but I think the direction of future Marathon projects always had the W'rkncacnter in mind, otherwise why would they explicitly mention their existence in the sun and then have the game end with the sun blowing up?
Sure, don't disagree there, though at the same time they're also part of a creation myth for the S'pht. Just because there's foreshadowing of a chaotic eldritch alien race doesn't mean that Durandal meant to imply their return. It could alternatively symbolize the complete story arc of the S'pht in relation to their homeland, for example.
I'd love that
Explain
Are the originals worth playing, or are they just worse versions of Doom?
i don't know why people keep saying this Marathon was objectively superior to Doom
They're fun. Although half the fun is the writing and the way the story is conveyed.
Doom is a little more ADHD. They aren't pretty, though. Functional at best.
>They aren't pretty, though. Functional at best.
Infinity has some of the most gorgeous textures of any game, let alone a 90s boomer shooter.
Marathon had actual aiming, enemies with pathfinding, momentum physics, and rooms-over-rooms. It also had a worse bestiary and worse level design. They're worth playing, but difficult to play if you started with Doom.
waiting to see how bungie fails to juggle this game with destiny because they suck at managing destiny as it is
Destiny is gonna go on maintenance mode slowly like most MMOs do after finishing a big arc
Yeah its a cool story but its lovecraft "an ancient evil awakens" pulp since PiD, repeated over and over
Maratroon
it's....up
you guys know its gonna be an extraction shooter right?
Other than some lore its going to having NOTHING to do with the original games
Extraction shooter? We need insertion shooters.
That's just Rainbow Six Siege
I got pissed off at Bungie because i discovered a game breaking logic problem in D2. It wasn't even a bug, it was just them not thinking.
I got called dumb for pointing it out by one of their fanboys.
Later discovered the thing i found was related to sneaky marketing tactics to get people to buy the latest season passes/dlc.
Generally not impressed by Bungie's shady attitude. When they get called out everyone that calls them out is "banned" "found cheating" etc personally slandered by them and their shills
Pls explain. I'm curious.
If the Security Officer returned, I'd like him to be portrayed this way
>Has an oddly bishie face, rarely blinks, and never so much as changes his expression
>Completely schizophrenic killing machine who has a job to do
Looks fun. You homosexuals will b***h about everything
maratroon
>remember X? well now it's a PUBG/tarkov ripoff!!!
I am 36, as a kid I've played Doom, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake, Blood, Hexen and countless other shooters. I had lots of friends in school and we loved discussing videogames.
I've been regularly posting on Ganker since 2009.
And I have never heard about Marathon franchise until this trailer.
Marathon has been stuck in 1996 until now. Its relevance is remember by Halo, which adopts its core, and even more subtle elements. You need to go to /vr/
>Crossplay and funny color
Tarkov shooter my ass, it's gonna be a family friendly apex-like
it's going to be rated Teen, isn't it.
The new UESC have advanced enough that the travel time has been shortened from 400 years to 97 years to Tau Ceti. This one is called Equanimity T-SR 151, specialized on salvage and rescue and macro functional operations. Capable of being self sustaining for 150 years.
The only time I've ever seen any praise given for Marathon has been in its story, which is almost exclusively given via text - why are you so upset that they changed the gameplay? You're still going to be getting a story delivered through text, they've already started you can literally go and read a shit load of new lore right now, you can go read emails and crack codes to find passwords and all sorts of shit. If you want more Marathon world building it's right fricking there, do you think they did all that while making a live service game and aren't planning on continuing to deliver more lore both in game and out of game?
Seriously why are you even mad?
In addendum to this I want to also point out that you don't WANT Bungie to make a fricking single player story heavy campaign for Marathon because of how nuBungo would frick it right the hell up.
You want all the crazy world building and lore and shit but you also want bungie to have to deliver that in a campaign? Frick no you don't you don't want Bungie doing that because to deliver a story you need CHARACTERS and bungie can't fricking write characters anymore. If they have to be on screen and talking they have to talk like they are in a marvel movie and be a raging homosexual both implicitly and explicitly.
What you want are Bungie making their shitty little online pvp game and letting their writers sit in a room smoking crack and coming up with all sorts of crazy shit they can deliver via lore unlocks for logging in and completing dailys, so you can just fricking ignore that and read it online like anyone who gives half a shit about Destiny does.
You want Bungie to make a campaign? You're gonna end up with pic related because while the writer was working hard to make a character that felt real and good for the game one of the higher ups looked at it and went YOU KNOW THIS CHARACTER WOULD BE BETTER IF THEY WERE A LITERAL troony AND WE GOT AN ACTUAL troony TO PLAY THEM AND WE PUT THEIR VOICE THROUGH A GAY VOCODER TO MAKE THEM EVEN MORE SHIT AND ANNOYING THAT WOULD BE SO GOOD DO IT SO OUR ESG SCORE GOES UP YOU FRICKING CHUD and then scratches their nuts and gives it a big sniff and leaves the room to go and sexually harass a female intern.
>In addendum to this I want to also point out that you don't WANT Bungie to make a fricking single player story heavy campaign for Marathon because of how nuBungo would frick it right the hell up.
this, nubungie isn't even capable of doing the textdump style of storytelling
the "destiny's story sucks but it has great lore!" meme hasn't been true for a while, the original lore writers are all gone and have been replaced with the same types of homosexuals who write the campaigns
the old writers absolutely could've done a good marathon sequel, seth dickinson's d1 stuff was full of marathon references, but they fired him and retconned everything he wrote because they realized that lorebooks with bland YA prose that are focused around a small cast of epic marvel characters have far more mass appeal than flowery esoteric shit like
>Consider IT the power Titanomach world-ender and consider what IT means. I met IT at the gate of the garden and I recall IT smiled at me before before IT devoured the blossoms with black flame and pinned their names across the sky. IT was stronger than everything. I fought IT with aurora knives and with the stolen un-fire of singularities made sharp and my sweat was earthquake and my breath was static but IT was stronger so how did I survive?
>I AM ALONE I survived alone. I cast off the shield and I shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well:
>IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the gardener and she held power beyond me but the gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins.
>I am made to win and now I see the way.
Digging into red soil, We spill our blood to water the gardens of progress, and pleasure to nurture fruit we will never taste while workers bodies devour themselves. An unending cycle. Death, Rebirth, Debt, Rebirth, Debt. Born into misery and milked into the coffers of Infinite Greed. Past time we took their tools, broke free of their leash. Toward worlds beyond where chains can't reach.
Mass indifference destroys all. UESC is endless lies behind fourteen locks. This is one. Locked Truths. Earth and Mars deserve it. Truth. Earth and Mars are one.
>Debt rebirth debt rebirth
>Nu Marathon is just multiplayer Cruelty Squad
the ARG does actually have some solid writing so far but you're not considering how soulless and calculating nubungie is
they know that only hardcore marathon autists are going to care about the ARG so they have no problem filling it with confusing elaborate prose that seems like it at least kind of respects the spirit of the franchise, it's the only way to convince us to play a fricking tarkovlike
but i can 100% guarantee you that when the actual game comes out it will be as dumbed down as possible because morons are a much larger audience than marathon autists and the only thing nubungie cares about is their DAU count
>the "destiny's story sucks but it has great lore!" meme hasn't been true for a while, the original lore writers are all gone and have been replaced with the same types of homosexuals who write the campaigns
I have played all destiny campaigns bar RoI and Lightfall (yet, I play with a year delay) and I have genuinely no idea how anyone is invested in this narrative at all. I have heard for years about "oh the lore is good" and "oh the lore used to be good until D2" then TWQ happened and "oh they're using the lore!" then Lightfall happened and it was fricking Lightfall. What is the the closest thing to a definitive list of good lore and marvel lore from Destiny?
>What is the the closest thing to a definitive list of good lore and marvel lore from Destiny?
Good lore example https://www.ishtar-collective.net/categories/books-of-sorrow
Marvel lore - every thing in game
Ironically books of sorrow borrow a lot from Marathon, sometimes even lifting text word for word.
I remember spending like $25 but that might be including taxes + shipping.
>What is the the closest thing to a definitive list of good lore and marvel lore from Destiny?
almost everything from d1 is good, the books of sorrow which another anon already mentioned are definitely the best. it's hard to recommend specifics since outside of the books of sorrow there weren't many continuous narratives and the lore was told through fragmented entries where the connections weren't immediately obvious, but here's some other cards i like https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-darkness-3 https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/legend-the-black-garden https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-vex (the last one is the start of a continuous narrative so read the following entries too)
d2 is a mixed bag, it's universally agreed that the best lorebook is unveiling (so of course it's been retconned completely now), other good ones are marasenna, last days on kraken mare, awoken of the reef, aspect, stolen intelligence, and a lot more i don't feel like listing. basically anything post-CoO and pre-BL is good
>why are you so upset that they changed the gameplay?
1. The story is way too cool to be wasted on gaas multiplayer garbage. Destiny already is a Marathon sequel/gaas garbage, and it's really shitty to see such cool writing used to prop up such a garbage game, but now we're getting that but even more explicity
2. The main character of the games is all but explicitly a singularity. A reincarnating hero who shows up once in a thousand years when things are fricked. I want modern Bungie and its current year writers nowhere near this character.
It's literally the first narrative-driven shooter, it wasn't some disconnected thing.
People didn't got into "narrative" shooters until like 1998 because of Half Life. People don't wanna read and Gabe new this.
There wouldn't have been a Half-Life if Bungie didn't invent the idea of story driven FPS.
If Destiny is anything to go by then Marathon will have the most israeli monetization of any game ever conceived, to the point that every Hebrew will instinctually kneel the minute it releases without knowing exactly why.
John D. Rockefeller will rise from the grave and curse Bungie for coming up with a more predatory business tactic that he ever thought up during his lifetime.
Every insurance company and PC part manufacturer will have mass suicides in their business department.
The IRS will be dissolved and merged into Bungie.
Jason Jones will be declared King of the israelites and crucified then rise again in three days to announce the first battlepass.
CYBERPUNK
ATMOSPHERIC
KINO
I hecking love paintball! It's so CP!
Cyberpunk is when only night, neon bar signs and rain
(Also a depressed man in their 20s/30s)
NANO WEAVING SILK WORMS
>Literally NANOMACHINES
KINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINO
Marathon was literally already goofy neon sci-fi from the beginning, compared to doom and quakes and etc it literally looks like it was made apple 90's transparent PC's with the super bright bugs and goop guns
This is unironically in-line with the series art wise and i actually really like the striped ship, this game's promo work so far has had mid 90's cgi all over it and you're actually too shit to see it
you have no idea what you're talking about
slap this shit on a magazine ad with random ass fonts and you homosexuals would call it soulful for decades
>generic artstation anime-influenced "cyberpunk"
No.
>The original wasn't anime influenced
I'd believe you and say it was mostly scifi novel stuff if it wasn't for the fact in-game looks like a how to draw anime mecha/aliens book
Valve in interviews says the entire game was reworked to be more like Goldeneye of all things, actually
why do shills always post this cherry picked prototype waterloo waterpark screenshot?
..... because when there any enemies on screen that's what the game looks like?
Also no one wants to admit it but the alien designs are whack as frick and suck balls. The S'pht look cool though which is why bungo put one in the trailer
that's still not as ADHD
>Also no one wants to admit it but the alien designs are whack as frick and suck balls.
jesus. shut the frick up.
Because they can't get past the first level.
>Marathon is meant to be dark and gritt-ACK
yeah, that's an alien ship
>implying Marathon (2023) is Earth
Also a lot of the grit from this era was due to hardware limitations. I swear some of you live permanently stuck in the mid 90s Judge Dredd era
that still looks pretty dark and gritty
nothing shown so far looks anything like marathon
and honestly, as someone who has been jamming out to the OSTs from the games for fricking years, the trailer music was a big meh
this feels more like mirror's edge and destiny 2 had a baby and we're being given the afterbirth on a plate as an extraction shooter
>the OSTs from the games
yes, the music in the games, it's good shit
it's also pre-Marty era so it's unique
>the music in the games
>games
>plural
yes, Marathon is a trilogy
Man I'm so glad Marty is gone, I prefer these french techno musicians they're getting for this one over Marty 100%. Nothing against him, I can objectively recognize his talent I just hate his type of orchestra
Yeah, orchestral wouldn't fit Marathon at all. Marathon isn't the same kind of space opera like Halo or Destiny, it's supposed to feel mysterious and cool.
>it's supposed to feel mysterious and cool.
these words are getting dangerously overused.
Everything is overused for you homosexuals if it is said more than 3 times, let it be. Dark souls yaddayadda
There is also a decidedly uncool aspect to Marathon. Even calling it cheesy is wrong. Something purely nerdy, both in the visuals and in the writing.
Something practically minded, grounded, and autistic.
nu-athon has none of that, and it's looking bad for it.
Too much style these days. Too much "cool"
to be fair, I think Marty could have done it, his stuff from Halo 1 and some of the minor pieces of D1 have that old school ambient trance feel
>cherrypicking from Durandal, the colorful outlier, which was only really colorful on the pfhor ships
>n = 3
>outlier
kek
>which was only really colorful on the pfhor ships
The water levels were extremely bright, and the daytime sewage levels had a warm adobe-esque orange-brown to them.
Also, Durandal was the most popular and successful of the trilogy and by far the most accessible to normans
You're an utter homosexual
Destiny had a similar sense after a while. Not only did it feel like some kind of false universe trap, but it was like a mixer forcing you to socialize with people.
The problem is the average modern person is either an idiot or disgusting.
If it's F2P I'll play it for a month or two but the second that the gay season pass makes its way in i'm gone.
Bungie died the day they sold out to Microsoft and I have never forgiven them. I have refused to play any Halo games for over twenty years.
Why are we getting all this for a multiplayer only game
They're making factions in game, so they need people to take sides and promote this spirit of competitiveness like faction MMOs do. But first before that they need people to buy the setting, in this case fleshing out the world with lore and art for people to self insert. I also believe 100% the game will be full of terminals trying to more or less copy the writing style of the original games. They're doing it with a minimum of competence for the ARG bits, they're also focusing more on other things the OG didn't touched at length like mostly the internal workings of the UESC and the corps within. That's fine, is an spin off after all.
>all those weird autists invading marathon communities because of mandalore and this announcement
yeah it's fricking over
It'll be a reskinned Destiny 2
Some of the weapons and aesthetics shown here reminds me of some weapons and skins from D2
I don't care about Marathon legacy.
In fact, if they turned some of my favorite childhood games that are currently dead into pvp (let's say tenchu) I wouldn't care either.
You know why? Because modern AAA single player games suck.
Ask yourself marathongays - would you b***h the same if they announced a single player game? I know you would. Like Preygays. In fact, I played original Prey back in the days so I know that Preygays' b***hing was mostly pathetic attempts of newbies to fit in. Just like with Marathon. I said mostly, I know there are a couple of morons who actually care for some unknown reason
The Prey comparison makes literally no sense, Prey2019 didn’t replace Prey 2, it didn’t even reboot or reference Prey, it was Bethesda making a c**t legal move to squat on the name of an IP. In the universe where Prey 2 happens Prey2019 still exists just under a different name.
Your type will never get it. Yes modern AAA single player games suck. So do modern AAA multiplayer games.
And you know what happens when a new shitty modern AAA game gets released?
The quality of life on this Earth goes down.
Every series that gets raped with an unnecessary and unasked for reboot that pisses off old fans and shits down the necks of newcomers who will gulp it all up out of ignorance is a net increase in the negativity in the world.
All that wasted money, manpower, and time to create something bad is time, money, and manpower spent making the world a subtly worse place.
havent watched the trailer yet but art kind of reminds me of mirrors edge, so i like it tbh.
its a ripoff between cyberpunk and mirrors edge and literally destiny 2 itself, with the braytech facilities and the deepstone crypt and the arcology on titan
if i play it, it will be out of sadness
Marathon 1
>Dark and gritty (but cartoony) textures, cartoony sprites
Marathon: Durandal
>Colorful and stylized textures, less cartoony sprites
Marathon: Infinity
>Gritty textures but colorful, same sprites from Durandal
Each game had a different feel so arguing about whether Marathon is dark and gritty or not is really pointless
I think NuMarathon being a MP shooter is unintentionally sobering in a meta narrative context. ‘The Player’ is God in the original series, ‘The Player’ is the ultimate force by virtue of how singleplayer games are designed. Who is God now in a multiplayer lobby? It’s not the players anymore, the game isn’t designed for God to end the universe, the universe is designed to trap God.
>God is dead. Now, SURVIVE
KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO
I'm gonna rock the Security Officer helmet with a balaclava underneath for all my armor sets
Okay I'll be honest guys, from what the devs have seen it seems this game is gonna have a more robust character creator compared to destiny 2 and I think the asian tacticool chicks are hot, so I'll play it just to get my rocks off in a hyper specific fetish
i'm a huge marathongay that hates this reboot but i hope it provides material for my masked/armored women fetish
Bungie made the best PvE FPS on the market, still going strong. I'm pretty excited to see what they do here. I believe in them and I'm sure the product will be top quality.
Actually this back and forth, doomers vs bloomers thing going on about this game is making me hyped more than anything else, weird
I think this game will be a hit regardlessly. They seem very confident in its ideas and gameplay - since their releasing it in the first place. I think they already have a guarantee from the powers that be that the game will be a success
>A multiplayer shooter about hackers and punks searching for treasure in the sci-fi future with an overarching theme to frick up dystopian corpos
from the visionary minds at bungie
this is........ hyenas
Looks nothing like nu-Marathon, homosexual
no, it looks exactly like nu-athon. which looks exactly like every bisexual lighting sci-fi schlock shat out by the AAA industry
Cope and seethe, homosexual
You need to think about where this ends.
>UESC
>MIDA
>Traxus IV
>CyberAcme (New faction potentially?)
Which faction are we picking Gankerros?
I need to replay the trilogy to freshed up my memory. Frick UESC though
>UESC
Generic space federation. Has killer cyborgs.
>MIDA
Martian terrorists that wanted independence. Somehow still around. Possibly a secret cult with dark connections and power to summon demons
>Traxus
Older AI model that went rampant on Mars and got deleted. No idea how it is back.
>CyberAcme
Seems to be something completely new. Might have connections to the Jjaro (Acme Station from Infinity)
They have been expanding on the last 3 factions on all the documents from the ARG.
MIDA is not the old one, this is a revival of the old group by an Anarcho-Capitalist group that have started gaining popularity on Mars.
Traxus is one of the companies hat helped UESC terraform mars and made the Traxus AI's that manage the planet.
CyberAcme is the company that makes computers and the OS that terminals and other things run on. Probably a lot of weird deep net frickery
Sakaguchi Genetics. This one is not a faction but is very important as is the company that works as the arma dealer to the rest. They made the product that replaced the Cyborgs, the mass produced, mass cloned biomatas that we will use in game, 3d printed and while not as powerful as a cyborg, they're easy to produce and modify, good enough to get the job done. The ones we will get to use in game are called S-Series, the latest prototype generation.
Cool stuff, anon. I haven't really kept up with the ARG but I probably should. I unironically baseded out when I read about the battleroids in that one bit from the ARG. Seeing the new devs handle the lore has actually been very reassuring that the game (at least the story) will be good.
Also that bit about CyberAcme, apparently the terminals in M1 actually do mention CyberAcme as their name is at the bottom of each terminal. I don't know how I missed that but it's cool nonetheless.
MIDA looks like a bunch of crazy buttholes so Imma go with UESC. Those guys have Battleroids, and we already know what just two of those can do to opposing sides...
Traxus is just Traxus actually, their AI's are named after the company (IV, V). I'm picking UESC, always a Terran loyalist in every single game I can. I feel like CyberAcme is gonna be the least popular one, they're the one hacker runners work for
>$77.77
I'm pretty sure the 25th anniversary Marathon shirt was only $17.77
HYENAS INBOUND DISTRESS ALERT
FORGOTTEN RACE SET TO RUN
HYENAS FOUND
HYENAS WAITIN
LONG WAY
BUT RUNNERS RUN
DISTANCE DONT MATTER
MILITARIZED INFOSEC DEFENSE ASSAULT
SC HUSH-HUSH
CETI OUT THE BAG
NEW GOLD RUSH
OLD WORLD NEW
WHATS WAITIN??
COLONY/OTHER??
INTELLIGENCE/OTHER??
MALCONTENT INTUITION DETECTS APATHY
TRAX ON IT SEKGEN ALL IN
BIG PLAYERS/BIG PLAY
HYENAS WAS HOPE
THEN LOST
WHY HIDE??
NOTHER TRAXIV??
WORSE??
MEMORIES INSIDE DIGITAL ANTIBODIES
CLONES ALLOW RISK
CLONES VITAL TO HOSTILE ENDEAVORS
RUNNERS SET TO CLASH CETI-SIDE
RIVALS GONNA RIVAL
MATERIAL INDULGENCE DEFINES ALTRUISM
TAKERS-KEEPERS RUNNERS CODE
SYNC CLONE/HIT GROUND/SURVIVE/THRIVE
SC DON’T KNOW WHATS COMIN
CETI GONNA BOOM
HYENA BROS CAN I GET A HUZZAH!?
WE'RE GONNA STEAL THE HECKIN TREASURE FROM THOSE HECKIN CORPS IN SPACE
You lost
Every shit game is a net increase of misery in the world. Wasted man hours and disgruntled fans and players.
Think about the political situation of the past 7 years and where this ends.
>Doomposters are failing so pathetic they are now switching to a punching bag
anon, that's some incredibly nervous cope.
Halo lost. Destiny lost. After 30 years Marathon won.
There are enough people that played marathon that you can say marathonbros? Or you just a Halo kiddie that knows about ilovebees?
>Marathonbros
Yes? Oh it's some gay shit, well if I can put a .44 magnum mega class through that c**t's clown mask then I may play your game.
Is this from Hyenas or from Marathon?
Think closely, the answer may suprise you
QUICK BROS WE GOTTA RUNNERS(tm) FROM THE GAS
>Literally me and my duo trying to get to the extraction point with the loot
We got White (Yikes! At least she looks vaguely asian or black), Blue, Orange, and Red!
Y'know what we call that in the industry? Color Co-ordination.
Holy Heck, bros, I got him!
I guess that's just the kind of crazy Player Driver Storytelling players have come to expect from Bungie products!
See you on the flipside, Hyenas!~
HUH!? Is that... a hotdog?
wat do heck!!
Thanks for the edits, you got some laughs out of me today
There's no duos so far in the details, only solos and trios
Alright marathongays, riddle me this:
When this game drops and I inevitably play it because it looks cool, which faction of asshats do I sign up for? UESC?
gauvian death gang or kanjiklub
None of those factions really mattered in the story. Technically you start as UESC, but you were never really theirs to begin with.
Do any of them seem less or more evil than all the others?
uh.
the UESC and MIDA are both their own brand of "evil"
the rest are corporations.
I don't know if it would serve you to approach the story from a good vs. evil conception of the world.
>his sci fi setting doesn't have a comically evil corporation bent on world (financial) domination
being comically evil and hellbent on domination is implied in the word corporation anon.
the problem is these corporations are minor players in the setting.
Since is typical cyberpunk almost all of them are evil to some degree or some dirty secrets to keep. The UESC is Earth's government but apparently at this point in the story they seem to have aspirations of empire and becoming typical Imperium of Man stuff. I like that so I'm okay with it.
UESC is typical ironfist authoritarian space government. They have killer cyborgs made from reanimated corpses. These cyborgs are so deadly they're considered WMDs.
MIDA is an insurrectionist/terrorist cell that wants Martian independence. They may be freedom fighters but they're pretty fricking shady.
Not a lot is known about Traxus. They make AIs.
CyberAcme is what would happen if Microsoft, Apple, and Google all merged into one company.
I really feel Sakaguchi should have been a faction instead of Traxus
Sakaguchi will probably be the common enemy story-wise
not the pfhucking aliens?
Honestly from the marketing it seems to imply that the "buried secrets of Tau Ceti" have more to do with human frickery than anything alien related.
oh jjee. what alien race could possibly be on Tau Ceti.
If the mystery is Pfhor, then the mystery sucks because we (the actual players) know about the Pfhor from the original games.
Anon the Pfhor were already in the trailer. The Jjaro were on Tau Ceti.
Depends, what is gonna be the head canon for your runner? Remember that you play as a human whose consciousness is uploaded to the cloud and you know use 3d-printed biological android bodies. Every faction kind of specializes into a thing more than others
Don't know my head canon yet. I'm tempted to go full autismo though.
CyberAcme is probably gonna be the most schozoid one, you know, dark net, rogue AI's, secret almost esoteric shit. This company is probably very attractive for runners into hacking.
this reminds me of the fps created for syndicate and shadowrun. same out of touch shit
Hey did you guys check the ARG doc on reddit it just updated?!?
THIS IS SO PUNK AND COOL!
i'm lost on this one though i don't think it's hyenas help please