What are your most hated blowout cards? For me in order of vitriol it's >Maxx C >Dimension Shifter >Skill Drain
After that I don't really care so much, sure shit like summon limit, dimensional fissure and what have you can be annoying but those three take the cake for me.
I have mixed feelings about evenly, I actually use that one but have never touched the other two because I think it's unprincipled to use shit you think should be banned.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's a Black person card. You have mixed feelings because you're a Black person. >wow meta decks are ending on such crazy boards.........let's just print a card that'll instantly win you the game vs any deck without trap/omninegates yeah that'll work
Black person Black person Black person
9 months ago
Anonymous
Play around it, shitter.
9 months ago
Anonymous
why are you hating on him for konami being moronic?
>mad
I'm already looking at which of my decks to dismantle to play it. I think I'll go with Odd-eyes since while I love it, it hasn't been remotely playable since literally the first month of the game.
I have plenty of soulful pet decks. Odd-eyes just isn't playable and it's probably not going to be playable anytime soon. Also that's only if I don't pull it what I need.
That has got to be the biggest joke of a fear yet, how in the frick is kashtira locking more than one or two zones without their best cards.
Any deck should win if your opponent lets you full combo so if you draw the perfect hand and your opponent has zero interruption congrats.
of course it fricking isn't. It's pretty obvious that only the DABL support is getting released.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>every other deck releases with 95% of it's support >but uhh this one won't!!!
lol
9 months ago
Anonymous
literally only tear did that
9 months ago
Anonymous
lab didn't have lady until darkwing blast. lab didn't have big welcome until photon hypernova. they released with both in master duel. guess what photon hypernova also had: all the fricking broken kashtira cards.
9 months ago
Anonymous
did you fricking forget the entire selection pack that had lab without either?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not that guy but I honestly don't know, couple more days for an answer so we'll see.
A lot of people seem convinced it's launching without ariseheart, big bang, and tearlament kashtira.
I hope to frick at least tearlament kashtira is not coming.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I hope to frick at least tearlament kashtira is not coming.
who cares tearcucks will have easier access to beatrice and baronne even without it
So they just have to get 4 level 7s turn one, EZ PZ right?
Come the frick on, even if they did that's only two zones.
You want to complain focus on something actually degenerate with auradon turbo.
Any yugilawyer wanna explain to me why Tax Dragon's effect happens immediately with a quick snappy animation but this fricker feels the need to start a multi-chain with itself every single time it procs?
I enjoy playing Trickstar in sims but the one thing putting me off building it in MD is how much more tedious it is to play
EEV is not bloat, what a fricking moronic take. Have fun losing the mirror every time!
>Ganker needs moronic blowout cards to win a mirror match
9 months ago
Anonymous
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resolving eev will not win you the mirror. too many morons blow all their resources to search it and lose to lady. ice dragons prison should be your go to.
nah you're moronic. when i resolve it in the mirror my opponent always scoops. it's never not happened.
9 months ago
Anonymous
EEV is not bloat, what a fricking moronic take. Have fun losing the mirror every time!
resolving eev will not win you the mirror. too many morons blow all their resources to search it and lose to lady. ice dragons prison should be your go to.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ice Dragon's Prison is for the mirror. EEV is unironically for Floo.
9 months ago
Anonymous
EEV is not bloat, what a fricking moronic take. Have fun losing the mirror every time!
God the one reason I hate climbing is coming across those disconnect cheaters that cause you to get a lost. And they only exist from plat 1 up. I hate being punished for no reason
>le cheating chinks
It is because it happens before the match even start then I am unable to play again until I close the game. This is literally the most common form of cheating in this game.
Do Floo decks now just run all the board breakers now?
I got evenly matched, raigekied, and DRNM on separate turns. He still couldn't kill me (could only flip down my board half of the time) and got his own board broken multiple time by just the wyrm engines. And ended up scooping after going through convoluted steps just to try to tribute Chengying only to watch me do it all over again next turn.
I'm looking forward to Kashtira. It's honestly the most fair top 1 deck since...MR4 at least. Not a high bar, but it's better than SPYRAL, Tear, Sprights etc etc.
>Name a more fun top 1 deck since MR4. You will not.
Tearlaments
Anyone who disagrees is a contrarian. Tears are the first meta deck since MR4 where turns went back to having constant back and forth. >But they can play on my turn!!
Yeah, that's exactly why. Solitaire shit is cancer.
kashtira is generally considered fair because you can break it with single splashable breakers, you rarely have to use more than 2 (mostly for Shangr-Ira).
the upcoming meta will not be fair, though, it's Halqdon 2: Tomahawk Chop
>release the traptrix support >don't release the missing insect support that came alongside the crystal beast stuff
clockworld night also still isn't in the game either and came out in the same pack
Konami's card design is very schizophrenic
BraFu and Tear released within a few months of eachother yet one omni-locks youu into fusions while the other is completely free
The best part about playing Necrovalley is knowing that Elementsabers don’t want you to, and it’s important to Necrovalley, so that you can remind sabers that they can’t have anything good in life. They’re allowed to have first turn and Palace of the Elemental Lords, and Lapauila Mana. Hey, that's a pretty good Necrovalley... Not that a Elementsaber would know.
>sales ban is a non searchable
until Thrust gets released >less consistent than a ED monster
You could disrupt the combo at any time with any hand traps, and even if Rhongo gets summoned stall him out because his mats still detatch.
Imagine defending fricking winning without interacting with your opponent at all. Every single FTK should be banned no matter how inconsistent it is except Exodia, and only for legacy reasons.
I'm particular to Dogmatika, Therions, and Endymion but all decks are cool for the most part if you don't consider their meta strength, I enjoy the card art in a universal way while trying not to think of how asshurt I get from watching a tearlament mill their entire deck on my turn.
The coolest decks are the ones where the in game mechanics mirror the conceptual theme of the deck. Like how Super Quants are all power rangers and when you xyz with them it's them summoning their specific robot, and you get buffs if you xyz into the right color robot with the right color pilot. Even though it's super annoying to fight, Runick is also one of the cooler decks since its (you) fighting against the monsters by activating quick play spells while your fairy friends help you keep your spellcasting going by protecting/finding your field spell.
The worst decks are just generic "good stuff" cards where they can special summon a million times from wherever just because and xyz/link/fusion because it's a strong mechanic that can be abused and none of it means anything thematically.
The coolest decks are the ones where the in game mechanics mirror the conceptual theme of the deck. Like how Super Quants are all power rangers and when you xyz with them it's them summoning their specific robot, and you get buffs if you xyz into the right color robot with the right color pilot. Even though it's super annoying to fight, Runick is also one of the cooler decks since its (you) fighting against the monsters by activating quick play spells while your fairy friends help you keep your spellcasting going by protecting/finding your field spell.
The worst decks are just generic "good stuff" cards where they can special summon a million times from wherever just because and xyz/link/fusion because it's a strong mechanic that can be abused and none of it means anything thematically.
This is why I love Melffy alot >cute little animals >come out to play when the coast is clear (special summon themself at End Phase) >when something scary shows up they run and hide (jump into your hand and activate effects) >spells and traps effects mirror the name of the card >Tag summons a Melffy from GY (Tag, you're it!) >Staring Contest makes you reveal the Melffy to apply the effect >Hide-and-Seak saves you once from destruction like the Melffy just dodge the effect by hidding >Playhouse mimics the Playground buddy system by bouncing monsters equal to the Melffys you detach
This is why I really wanna play Vanquish Soul so much.
It's not a threat just at some point you'll realize you are making a kashtira deck instead of w/e you had before, if you want to run all the monsters you'll probably want to run the continuous and field spell and if you do that well either your playing a pile or?
Only Kashtira Fenrir since it searches itself. I don't know if I should add it to Labrynth since I'm already running Ishizu and Bystials, the deck space is already too tight.
>two games to plat 1 >Game 1: maxx c hero player. Let him search mask change because I think I can deal with Dark Law pass >dark law pass is too damn strong for my soulful swordsoul deck. Can't OTK him because my tenyis all got banished >his turn. He has everything but literally blows up his own board by fricking up >Game 2: Labrynth sets four >activates big welcome >EEVs me >drew dimensional fissure but didn't think to use it until after I got my first synchro out >uselessly burns through all his traps without once taking advantage of lady's effect >synchro summon next turn >You are not plat 1
So that's what it looks like when people don't know how to use their decks.
Why the Fiend vs Fairy Festival of course. I need to use Morningstar's effect to MILL. And yes I did do it for real instead of using Condemned's effect to banish monsters.
I wish they would put in some alt art for blue-eyes. But seeing that dark magician only has 2 in guessing its gonna be a while. That being said I'd also like to have the evil version or Yugi's DM too. I guess konami doesn't want to animate more cards then they have to.
Is there a good video resource to understand how chaining and other game mechanics work? Some anon tried to explain to me how some effects go off simultaneously and why I couldn't chain my geafried to yuki-onna and it went right over my head.
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Simultaneous_Effects
This page answers your question but tldr: When he summoned Hajun, he was able to use both Yuki-Onna's and Hajun's effects at the same time, and Gearfried can only respond to the last effect applied to the chain (which was Hajun's and not Yuki-Onna's)
Lab players will swear up and down it's fine to handrip your twice before your own standby phase because they're taking the risk they hit something that triggers in the GY as if that somehow makes up for the fact that you're ripping cards from the fricking hand and half the time you can't even respond to it.
There is a risk because you're investing resources on using a Big Welcome that can easily be Ash'd, leaving you with a fat load of nothing to protect yourself during the opponent's turn. Even then, the fear of GY effects is real.
Also count the fact Belle fricks Big Welcome and Silver herselft is a prime Imperm target.
Unlike Smoke Grenade you have more ways to stop Lab handrip.
Just spend two hours bouncing between diamond I and IV, didn't think labrynth would have this many problems with ash and bystials, unironically climbed back to dia I with marincess, what the frick is wrong with this season?, also ban super poly for the love of god
>and people stop running ash
Every TCG deck runs Ash.
Nah, ash does jackshit to a ton of decks in MD that aren't cancerous elsewhere, pend comes to mind, also d link and tear laughs at ash and they only run it for maxx c
Spright/Tear/Kash are too resilient to handtraps and Ash sucks against all of them. If Maxx C was banned every deck would have cut Ash the past few months and replaced her with board breakers.
Ash doesn't suck against Theosis. Sure,you will have something sniped, but as far as disruptions go it's probably one of the strongest. If Kash didn't have moronic triggers then Ash would just be an auto-include against them
https://www.masterduelmeta.com/top-decks/duelist-cup/3/p.u.n.k./%E3%81%9F%E3%81%99%E3%81%8F/Z1sfr
How is this punk deck? I keep opening ze amin into imperm/ash/veiler/anything with my punk zombies with zero followups because it's zombies and I'm fricking sick of it, is this list more resilient? Followup question, which UR Extra does this want the least between the dragite, orcust, or zeus?
Sometime Ze Amin gets negated and your turn ends or sometimes you play through 3 interruptions and combo off. Emergency Teleport is broken. Instant Contact is another extender to go into level 7/10 Synchros.
P.U.N.K. is generic to be played alongside other engines that don't mind discarding.
That list is six months old anon. The same guy that played it wound up playing P.U.N.K. Bystials for Master Duel Worlds. I don't think the Worlds decklists are publicly available yet.
The Worlds lists aren't that weird because the strategy for most wasn't to play suboptimal versions of a deck, it was to either give a teammate 1 deck(Tear) that was completely self contained, or pick decks that didn't overlap. So every deck they played was basically at full power. Especially since every team picked the roach and Ash as their shared cards.
Games where I can play through at least 1 hand trap are a good bit more common than ones I lose to a single hand trap. Get Zeus first just because you want him for almost every deck. Dragite is second most important and Ding third. You can play the deck fine without any of them, but you'll have the occasional game where you want the Dragite or be cursing that you have no non-targeting removal.
This is the thing about Floo that pisses me the frick off. They literally just special summon on both turns but call it a normal summon. They might as well print a card that says "normal summon from deck" to dodge the roach.
I want to wring the necks of every Pendulum player. I am fricking sick and tired of watching them pop and cycle the same four Magician Pend monsters over and over again on a non-HOPT. Absolute braindead fricking garbage
It wouldn't matter Japan is buckbroken by Tear that they'll try to jam as many discard engines to make that pile deck despite the combined World banlist that has both Chaos Ruler, Snow, and Auroradon banned.
josh won worlds and in the first couple months of md he made a anti maxx c video
all teams made maxx c their shared card
only 9% of decks aren't uninfected by the level 2 earth insect
fricking kneel bugmen
they were moronic enough to put visible card usage rates into the game
so that basically makes them liable to false advertising since they're openly lying about the banlist
What keeps the roach around in the OCG is tradition because literally every decklist the past 5+ years has been warped around that card, and their banlist is heavily influenced by it too. If Maxx C got banned tomorrow the OCG would have to copy a shit ton of TCG hits alongside it that they currently don't have due to the reasoning that stuff like Block Dragon's okay because of Maxx C(this reasoning is wrong anyway though).
>currently don't have due to the reasoning that stuff like Block Dragon's okay because of Maxx C
block dragon is okay because it's fun that's why it's allowed
9 months ago
Anonymous
The reasons are as diverse as there are cards in yugioh, this is like "why Hannibal never invaded Rome", we're never going to get a real answer
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ada don't really see that much tourno play. Banlists only start moving when something obviously broken is around or see lot of tourno play.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm so sick of hearing drooling morons defend broken cards as "fun". You're either dumb enough that you don't understand why a card is too good to remain unbanned because your shitdeck can barely utilize it fully, or you're shit enough at the game that you know it is broken and you need it to win.
9 months ago
Anonymous
don't care, didn't ask and quite frankly i didn't read. i love the based lego dragon thank you based ocg for valuing fun.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Stupid dumb frick porch monkey
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Kitkallos mills 5, is OPT, needs to be fused using specific materials
REEEEEE BROKEN BAN BAN BAN!! >Block Dragon SEARCHES 3, offers protection, is easy to summon
This card is ok cause it's "fun"
I don't get this thread.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Tearlaments are a good deck, Adamancipators aren't. It's as shrimple as that
9 months ago
Anonymous
Tearlaments are a fun deck. Adamancipators are cancer. Simple as.
Bug rewards fat end boards more than usual. Sure with roach gone mean more gas or some tech stuff, but that would mean boardbreakers actually doing their job.
Besides, roach give them reason to keep broken shit around.
in paper there's no way to prove how highly played a card is so they can basically lie
but in MD we have hard data that the roach has over 90% use rate so the statement about why they haven't banned it is proven bullshit
if they want to keep it legal they would either have to remove that paragraph from every banlist from now on or artificially """"edit"""" the visible usage rate so that they aren't liable for false advertising
Be the judge of it for yourself when it comes. If you're playing in low enough ranks it won't matter. Or if Konami does a good banlist(lol) it won't matter. You shouldn't need 3 regardless though. Maybe you'd want to bump Carp or Dragon Drive to 2 but don't craft now, just hold onto some UR points.
Also you're not trying to win a tournament so who cares?
Be the judge of it for yourself when it comes. If you're playing in low enough ranks it won't matter. Or if Konami does a good banlist(lol) it won't matter. You shouldn't need 3 regardless though. Maybe you'd want to bump Carp or Dragon Drive to 2 but don't craft now, just hold onto some UR points.
Also you're not trying to win a tournament so who cares?
Wait, my mistake. I thought you were asking about backup extra deck monsters for Kash. KURIKARA is the card that's good vs Kash, not Karakuri. And it's not the only good card vs them, and there's no telling where it'll actually be on the tier list so don't waste crafting points on it. You can just run Nibiru or Book of Moon or whatever which are great vs Kash and more reliable vs other decks.
Ban Maxx C
Ban CBTG
Ban Kit
Ban Block Dragon
Ban Chaos Ruler
Ban Elf
Ban Kelbek
Ban Agido
Limit all Tear names
Limit BraFu
Limit Bystial Lubellion
Never release Arise-Heart
Master Duel is saved
I don't even know what you hit from Paulie's deck that's realistic. Ban Ravine again? Seyfert or Quick Launch to 1? Banning something like Seals or Striker Dragon feels stupid.
Konami never learns, and as long as players like Joshua Schmidt hold the same on opinion on d link it will never die >you cant play the same deck forever >no deck should be viable forever >except dlink, because "its not that old"
Im fricking livid about dwagins, they're as obnoxious as pend soup, ive seen multiple pros not even know what to hit because its like playing whack a mole in a casino
9 months ago
Anonymous
For as much as Seals pass is a meme banning that card would legitimately hurt the deck quite a bit. Removes tons of followup and the ability to end on it after an interruption.
dlink has evolved multiple times
its a pile of generic dragon cards and support
it will basically never die since dragons will always get support
they basically tried to kill it with wyrms but it didn't work so they gave up
The constants across all builds are the Rokkets. Just ban Tracer, Striker, or Quick Launch.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Dragon Link would still be a relevant rogue deck with all of those at 0
9 months ago
Anonymous
they would just replace it with the next best thing
dlink can never die unless they ban all dragon and chaos cards
9 months ago
Anonymous
If the next best thing isn't good enough to keep the deck in contention then who cares? The point is to stop the deck from being one of the best for 5 years, not kill the type outright.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>lower a decks power level? no you have to outright kill it or it doesn't matter
lole
>Do I have MOST of what I need from the pack already? >How many Gems have I spent on it already?
Like 90% of new packs I swear have some sort of limiter preventing you from pulling one specific card at all. I ended up having to craft Kairyu-Shin three times back when the Umi pack dropped and I learned from it.
Personally I'd just stop and craft Lubellion since the exact same thing happened to me with the Bystials.
>I ended up having to craft Kairyu-Shin three times back when the Umi pack dropped and I learned from it.
I was at the opposite from you. I end up with 3 karyushin + whale + all marincess URs when I only want sharks + advent.
you can cope and seethe all you want, konami will never stopped printing good the holy trinity of YGO archetypes (dragon, magician and warrior) support
>piss easy special summon conditions >grave hate >handtraps >effects on top >Lubellion shits out value and strong back row by simply drawing him or Magnamhut >carried D-Link through Worlds
Nothing is "fine" about this broken package
They're a D.D. Crow sidegrade that are basically dead cards in certain matchups. They're fine.
9 months ago
Anonymous
And when you can't banish your opponent's monsters, you simply banish your own and combo off. Why should a card be able do both? Why should there be fricking four of them with Lubellion on top?
Dragonruler this entire archetype.
9 months ago
Anonymous
That is simply never going to happen.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Your answer to everything you find a little annoying cannot be to Dragonruler the archetype.
Just take the Lights and Darks out of your deck and the Bystials turn into bricks.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Just take the Lights and Darks out of your deck and the Bystials turn into bricks.
HOLY moron
9 months ago
Anonymous
Play Earth Machine, moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Climb out of Diamond 4
9 months ago
Anonymous
They don't want to accept that you can banish your own cards to gain advantage especially once branded regained and beast are in play.
They make dogmatika so much better when you can banish and recycle your ED cards while drawing each turn.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oh no, they make Dogmatika(Tier 7 deck) better? We have to ban them bros...
9 months ago
Anonymous
Do you not know what an example is?
9 months ago
Anonymous
I haven't tried Bystial Dogmatika. Got a list?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ever since Xbox said no to twitter I don't bother sharing lists anymore, it's just dogmatika with 3x lubellion and however many of the other bystials you want to run.
I run a lot because I don't run most other handtraps.
A cracked hand gets you a ton of interruptions and you can even bounce back from shit like evenly if you keep regained on the field.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oh, so what you're saying is they benefit Light/Dark decks just as much as they hurt them? What's the problem then?
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't have a problem but that has to be the other guys point in that they enable dark / light as much as they hurt them.
Whoever it is they just can't articulate how they feel without sperging out.
>Tears are dead the moment they ban Kitkallos
Not unless Chaos Ruler also gets the axe. Tear's maindeck members are hit even harder in the OCG than in MD on top of a Kit ban, yet have been a top 3 deck for months and months still.
No you stupid fricker, that's a Tear deck using P.U.N.K. as a milling engine. They're maxed out on Tear names they can legally play and the fusions are the center of their gameplan.
Brave tenyi was so much fun to play. I miss it. They should unlimit all the adventurer shit and free halq.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Soon brother, soon
9 months ago
Anonymous
I will be playing this.
Brave Tenyi was one of the most soulless decks in MD history. There's nothing "fun" about memorizing a Combo line and playing solitaire. You can get the exact same experience playing against a bot. Go do that.
It actually had some interesting variety of lines you could take. It was overpowered for sure, but it was FUN.
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If you like slop so much just play one of the Tear piles running around now.
I have multiple PUNK chaos dragon turbo grass pile decks.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Brave Tenyi was one of the most soulless decks in MD history. There's nothing "fun" about memorizing a Combo line and playing solitaire. You can get the exact same experience playing against a bot. Go do that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Soon brother, soon
If you like slop so much just play one of the Tear piles running around now.
They've been much more banhappy in the past year than normal, just look how much of POTE/DABL/PHHY is on the banlist. It's just thye printed archetypes of such abnormally high powerlevel that they all needed to get DRuler'd to feel fair.
That said the roach is still legal because they are lazy and rely too much on it's perceived balancing of the game.
Bystials are fair. You just need to stop playing a dishonest chaos deck. Light and Dark have had it good in the grave for 20 years and deserved punishment.
what are some fun decks with unique forms of removal?
I like Rikka because of the tributing and I've been playing Generaiders for the non-targeting attachment
I've got my eye on Gold Pride because of Baller but that shit won't be in the game for a while
Make PUNK. Bounce 4 as a quick effect is very fun. Also it's a good investment for Gold Pride. Lair of Darkness is far better at tributing as cost, but it's a much worse deck. Penguins bounce but Nopenguin turns their bounces to banishes. Penguins fricking suck don't waste anything on them. Dogmatika removes stuff from the Extra Deck before they get a chance of summoning them. Get the Ninja structure deck when it releases in a day. One of their main plays is flipping the opponent's monsters face down permanently, and you can just attack directly to keep them hostage from the GY.
>Arise-Heart banishes ALL cards sent to the GY even yours
This card is way worse than I though with how people were gassing it up. I thought it was like Dark Law where it's a floodgate for your opponent only. You need to play a very specific kind of deck if you just expect to shit out this card and win, otherwise it fricks you just as bad.
People shit their pants over Kashtira when it's honestly not as bad. Lot of random shit decks can get wins on Kash because if they go for the full meme zone lock they instantly lose to Nib or Lava golem. If they go for arise-heart pass you just lose to the removal/negation of one single monster.
I will not put Kash in any of my decks frick you. I don't care how splashable it is. Not fricking doing it. Fenrir is not that good that I need to stick it in unrelated decks and by telling me I need to run this shit you're buying into a delusion fed to you by moronic eceleb yugitubers that would say the same thing about any new good card just to get obsessed metasheep to click into their videos. >Just put it in any deck lol!!! your deck isn't competitive without it!
How about you frick off?
I am not denying that it is a powerful card. But with 3 unicorn, why not running spell so you can shit out Fenfir for extra frick you. Oh, and another spell that recycle your Kash.And at this point you might as well building a kash deck.
9 months ago
Anonymous
theosis is NOT coming no matter how much you cope
9 months ago
Anonymous
>cope
I don't follow the leak.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Then keep your mouth shut and let the grown ups talk.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>grownup >cannot keep on topic for a second.
ED rip is good only against some decks but not all decks run 1 of. Dlink might have a problem but frick them.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Because that's a question of whether your deck can fit that or not.
Reminder he said Runick was "healthy for the game." Now because he won too, you're gonna have TCGcucks sucking his dick and defending his moronic takes to no end.
I agree except the random mills can be extremely sacky. So many decks just fall apart after a specific brick gets milled, and having to run 2 of it just to not instantly lose sometimes vs one specific deck is shitty. But the Runick engine itself? One pop, one imperm, and a bunch of worse Instant Fusions is fine. All the semis in MD really did make a noticeable change in consistency too.
Also the battle phase still matters a lot regardless of what people say online. Giving it up is a major downside.
In what way can Runick be seen as "healthy for the game"? In what fricking world? How do you say this unironically? Is that real? I'm in complete shock and disbelief at the suggestion that anyone would ever think this. Not a single deck in the game, not even tears, makes me want to strangle my opponent to death so badly. Such an uninteractive, slow, moronic and toxic playstyle can't be good for any game.
Runick as a toolbox is healthy and cool though. The stun version is ass and irrelevant.
Play around it or draw the out. You can deal with huge combo boards that shit out monsters with a dozen negates and infinite recursion when interrupted but you can't Ash, imperm or veiler the one fairy when it searches fountain? Or pop a single field spell three times until their three fairies are used up? It's not even an OTK deck, you have plenty of time to stop it.
Thanks, I wasn't asking for advice on the matchup in any way though you fricking homosexual.
>slow
The way Runick is used as an engine is anything but slow, and forces interactions because it removes your BP. Again, you are talking about the stupid floodgate turbo build that ruined ladder for a couple months.
runick is used as etele engine for spright and other bullshit
they mill win con is just a side benefit
>muh engine
doesn't change how toxic and cancerous it is and will still force the turn count higher because you can't swing for game after your funny free level 2 body special summon, you're trying to push your opponent into scooping because they don't want to play against that disgusting troony shit, nobody does.
Runick is awesome and is by far my favorite deck to play right now. The fur hire version in particular is super fun. It's actually a pretty fast-paced combo deck. It doesn't kill you quickly, but the game is basically over if you let me draw 6 cards at once.
you need to have a nice day NOW. imagine being a runick troony and a furry both. I wish death upon you, genuinely. Just die.
>Get told how to beat the deck >Prove it's weaker than other shit people are fine with >Still throw a tantrum
Embarrassing
9 months ago
Anonymous
If you think you made any kind of valid point with your posts, you're a moron. Simple as.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Still seething
lmao
9 months ago
Anonymous
You fricking waste of space. Stop posting, I never fricking asked for advice on the matchup, I beat the deck plenty, it doesn't change the fact it's annoying as frick and slow. Sort of like you, really.
>slow
The way Runick is used as an engine is anything but slow, and forces interactions because it removes your BP. Again, you are talking about the stupid floodgate turbo build that ruined ladder for a couple months.
Runick is awesome and is by far my favorite deck to play right now. The fur hire version in particular is super fun. It's actually a pretty fast-paced combo deck. It doesn't kill you quickly, but the game is basically over if you let me draw 6 cards at once.
In what way can Runick be seen as "healthy for the game"? In what fricking world? How do you say this unironically? Is that real? I'm in complete shock and disbelief at the suggestion that anyone would ever think this. Not a single deck in the game, not even tears, makes me want to strangle my opponent to death so badly. Such an uninteractive, slow, moronic and toxic playstyle can't be good for any game.
[...]
kys
I would say he is 80% right. The Runick decks he's talking about are mostly interactive, but the biggest problem with Runick is, deckout as a win condition is fricking unfun as shit. Just like no one likes the way Tears are for fricking gamblebrained morons randomly dumping shit, one of Runick's wincons is decking you out and that's bad because that's also winning on gambles sometimes that you just banish critical pieces of your opponent's deck. Deckout is fricking cancer, people want to be able to have the opportunity to play their cards in the first place, which is why Stun players should watch their backs in the parking lot leaving locals. The only reason the Runick decks Josh has played aren't as bad is because setting up a strong board state and playing Control with Spright or Synchros is the primary wincon, not the deckout. But just randomly losing shit from your deck is always going to suck.
>Be marincess >jerk off with long ass combo for a weak as shit towers and one or two interruptions >Umi control >activate "Umi" >Summon badass sea monster >opponent becomes so ashamed of his life choices that he sends his own monsters to the gy
One is clearly more based than the other
I've played against marincess twice. They spend so much time building up a board that gets cleared with most generic boss monsters and set up no interruption so they can't protect it, and then lose to the timer trying to rebuild on the next turn provided they don't die first.
They can protect against spells and traps fairly easily, but yeah against monsters they can't do much on the opponent's turn. They are one of those combo decks I rarely see people get angry at unlike Adamancipators.
They can protect against spells and traps fairly easily, but yeah against monsters they can't do much on the opponent's turn. They are one of those combo decks I rarely see people get angry at unlike Adamancipators.
They can't protect against either easily. Their reliable endboard is a single spell/trap negate that only works on your opponent's turn and a single searchable imperm. They actually can rebuild easily and their monsters all become towers after they use their imperm making them annoying to get rid of, but their ceiling is just way too low to be very good anymore. They also autolose to maxx C and struggle to play through other handtraps.
Marincess were barely Rogue in Branded meta when they had Toad, now that Toad is gone and POTE has powercrept the game by like a decade they're barely petdeck tier
morons on Ganker who refuse to play good cards out of sheer autism are under the impression that every deck is splashing in the full bystial/branded beast engine and not just using Magnamhut, Saronir and Baldrake(usually at 1 copy each) as hand traps against Tearlaments, please understand. It's a very different game for them down in Silver IV
9 months ago
Anonymous
>confuses saronir and druiswurm >claims to know anything about the meta
The main problem with Runick is the fact all the "out" cards are mostly focus on Monsters not Spells so you either build for one or the other and in a bo1 format Runick feels like a b***h to fight.
Honestly, just cards like Ash Blossom or Maxx C often frick them over pretty hard assuming we're not talking Runick Stun. Backrow floodgates are their whole own problem.
I'd say that not knowing what you're up against with Runick is a problem. >opponent summons Hugin >oh you didn't Ash her? He has a hand of 3 more Runick cards and a floodgate >opponent summons Hugin >Oh, you DID Ash her? Normal Rex/Naturia or Special blue special jet etc
That's not a Runick problem though it's every version of Spright. The deck is ridiculously resilient to handtraps.
Also Runick stun is completely irrelevant. I don't think I've seen it a single time since Spright's release, it's just an objectively worse use of the cards.
Yeah Runick stun isn't good... Until the one guy still playing it manages to draw all the limited floodgates that counter your deck specifically. And a lot of people still try playing shitty stun decks because it's all they know.
But not knowing what variant of the deck you're facing makes it really hard to handle properly.
It's like when someone normals Ze Amin. If they're on pure PUNK then Ash on it or Foxy is a mistake. But if they're using it as an engine, then you are getting your Ash chainblocked vs the Chaos Ruler.
Even then it's still fine to ash there almost always. Most decks can play through a single ash, and even if they keep playing, runick often gets super cucked by it unless they open exactly tip. Even if they get to do stuff afterwards, it shuts down their draw engine so they're ending on a weaker spright board than the melfy versions or are baronne pass with molecricket in gy.
Outs and handtraps means jack shit when Runick is supported by other archetypes like Naturia, Fur Hire and Spright. >ash Huging the nugget >lmao Spright Starter
Ban EEV. Ban Dimensional Barrier.
>complaining about tier 2 deck
you might as well be complaining about fricking invoked
I'm not complaining about Lab, I'm complaining about unfun blowout cancer cards.
What are your most hated blowout cards? For me in order of vitriol it's
>Maxx C
>Dimension Shifter
>Skill Drain
After that I don't really care so much, sure shit like summon limit, dimensional fissure and what have you can be annoying but those three take the cake for me.
Evenly
D Shifter
Skill Drain
I have mixed feelings about evenly, I actually use that one but have never touched the other two because I think it's unprincipled to use shit you think should be banned.
It's a Black person card. You have mixed feelings because you're a Black person.
>wow meta decks are ending on such crazy boards.........let's just print a card that'll instantly win you the game vs any deck without trap/omninegates yeah that'll work
Black person Black person Black person
Play around it, shitter.
why are you hating on him for konami being moronic?
FRICK AL THE STROKER!
WHERE DOES HE GET OFF BEING A USEFUL NORMAL SUMMON
>the only decks you can complain about are tier 0 or tier 1
you black and white morons are so fricking dumb
Yeah there's a nordic trap that unlocks fricking 4
I got confused but
thanks
when
Does this card let you ignore activation requirements?
>release full power Black person cards that activally killed sales on the card games
whats the masterplan here?
Arise release never, trust me
arise only dropped from EX pack. trust the plan
>EX pack
DEBOONKED
Low skilled players will paypig to play broken cards that will carry them. Case in point = tear
>Case in point = tear
Tear's selection pack made building the deck cheap. The biggest rarity bumps happened for Bystials and Synchrons (expected).
fenrir and diabolos power check
>Diabolos
?
diablosis!
lair of darkness support when
Just got big support with muckraker.
>supporting handloop.dek
may as well make forceful sentry legal
Please understand, there are 10,000+ cards in the game we ran out of ways to say devil years ago.
Not me, anything to help combat tearlaments, state of the game and all that.
kitkallos ban sleeping room
>mad
I'm already looking at which of my decks to dismantle to play it. I think I'll go with Odd-eyes since while I love it, it hasn't been remotely playable since literally the first month of the game.
absolutely soulless
I have plenty of soulful pet decks. Odd-eyes just isn't playable and it's probably not going to be playable anytime soon. Also that's only if I don't pull it what I need.
Why dismantle it when you can lean into it, Odd Eyes would be happy to have more rank 7s to pend summon.
I'm seething
doesnt kashtira get hard countered by blue eyes? none of them has more than 3000 attack and blue eyes dont care about bansishing
If you have target protection, you will have an easier time
Chaos Max solos I guess
No. BEWD also does need the GY and Extra deck to make plays so it doesn't counter anything Kash does.
And what zones will you be playing those cards in?
That has got to be the biggest joke of a fear yet, how in the frick is kashtira locking more than one or two zones without their best cards.
Any deck should win if your opponent lets you full combo so if you draw the perfect hand and your opponent has zero interruption congrats.
>how in the frick is kashtira locking more than one or two zones without their best cards.
They will mind hack you
they aren't doing jack shit without theo/bang/scareclaw
>theo/bang/scareclaw
I dont get it.
Is the "EX" thing, real..?
Do you really think it's not releases with those?
of course it fricking isn't. It's pretty obvious that only the DABL support is getting released.
>every other deck releases with 95% of it's support
>but uhh this one won't!!!
lol
literally only tear did that
lab didn't have lady until darkwing blast. lab didn't have big welcome until photon hypernova. they released with both in master duel. guess what photon hypernova also had: all the fricking broken kashtira cards.
did you fricking forget the entire selection pack that had lab without either?
Not that guy but I honestly don't know, couple more days for an answer so we'll see.
A lot of people seem convinced it's launching without ariseheart, big bang, and tearlament kashtira.
I hope to frick at least tearlament kashtira is not coming.
>I hope to frick at least tearlament kashtira is not coming.
who cares tearcucks will have easier access to beatrice and baronne even without it
So they just have to get 4 level 7s turn one, EZ PZ right?
Come the frick on, even if they did that's only two zones.
You want to complain focus on something actually degenerate with auradon turbo.
Stupid fricking unplayer.
their main monster and what carries them is a 3000 atk/def quick banish thats also a walking macro cosmos that can be cheated out
Shangri Ira has 3000 def and needs to be destroyed 3 times before it leaves the field
>Jet dragon
Hold my beer
>Underworld Goddess at 50% usage
plz ban
>coombogay getting uppity
https://www.reddit.com/r/masterduel/comments/15lhd70/cut_my_girl_some_slack/
one of these deck have boobies and the other deck have boobies if you know what i mean 😉
Apples and oranges. Floodgating the opponent to death isn't Lab's wincon anymore
>frog poster
>used reddit
Checks out
My friend and I like to trade lewd Dark Magician Girl images
gay as hell
that's fricking weird
do u also jerk each other off while doing that haha
No
Why?
Projecting
don't talk to me, creep
Any yugilawyer wanna explain to me why Tax Dragon's effect happens immediately with a quick snappy animation but this fricker feels the need to start a multi-chain with itself every single time it procs?
I enjoy playing Trickstar in sims but the one thing putting me off building it in MD is how much more tedious it is to play
Tax Dragon is basically putting in an extra cost on everything while that is an effect that could be chained to
One is a cost, one is an effect.
just read the card
masq is dmg by cost
dark room is dmg by card effect
imagine fricking complaining about empen, just summon your monsters in defence
I've played both decks and I enjoy Labrynth far more but Lab is INFINITELY more degenerate than Floo
They both fold to backrow removal so there's that much at least.
I hate Floo's spells and traps more than their monsters.
eev is overhyped by unplayers. knowing when to activate it takes skill.
>knowing when to activate it takes skill
Even if that were true it doesn't change the fact that the end result is pure cancer
all the good decks can still play after getting eev'd. d barrier is way more degenerate and unfair.
and Lab runs both
eev is bloat, d barrier is all you need
eev is for the mirror
>Ganker needs moronic blowout cards to win a mirror match
nah you're moronic. when i resolve it in the mirror my opponent always scoops. it's never not happened.
resolving eev will not win you the mirror. too many morons blow all their resources to search it and lose to lady. ice dragons prison should be your go to.
Ice Dragon's Prison is for the mirror. EEV is unironically for Floo.
EEV is not bloat, what a fricking moronic take. Have fun losing the mirror every time!
all the good decks can still play after getting dbarried
no branded is not a good deck
SEX DRAIN
FIEND TUNER, shame it doesn't work on set cards but that would probably make it modern, retrain when?
Jacks counterpart to Yuseis card breaker, in the anime card breaker was essentially a kaiju for backrow on either side of the field.
Jack also had an effect veiler counterpart.
I collect the physical game but only play the digital games
Laundry....is dumb.
She tries really hard
ban every level 4 tuner
NOOOOOOOO
he did nothing wrong
Ban every homosexual with a post number ending in 2
total yume death
Ariseheart-sama...
yumes should just die
*siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip*
God the one reason I hate climbing is coming across those disconnect cheaters that cause you to get a lost. And they only exist from plat 1 up. I hate being punished for no reason
That stopped happening to me once I switched to a wired connection, maybe try not playing on mcdonalds wifi pedro
The switch has no ethernet port.
>playing on console+wifi
>bros why do I keep getting disconnect losses? must be le cheating chinks
fricking kek
>le cheating chinks
It is because it happens before the match even start then I am unable to play again until I close the game. This is literally the most common form of cheating in this game.
>wasn't a waitgay and didn't get the oled
NGMI
I hate Floo so fricking much
Do Floo decks now just run all the board breakers now?
I got evenly matched, raigekied, and DRNM on separate turns. He still couldn't kill me (could only flip down my board half of the time) and got his own board broken multiple time by just the wyrm engines. And ended up scooping after going through convoluted steps just to try to tribute Chengying only to watch me do it all over again next turn.
Map to 3 please
I'm mad it's not at 3.
I'm looking forward to Kashtira. It's honestly the most fair top 1 deck since...MR4 at least. Not a high bar, but it's better than SPYRAL, Tear, Sprights etc etc.
poor bait
Name a more fun top 1 deck since MR4. You will not.
>macro on legs
If your deck folds to 1(one) Macro on a monster than your deck probably sucks.
poor bait
>Name a more fun top 1 deck since MR4. You will not.
Tearlaments
Anyone who disagrees is a contrarian. Tears are the first meta deck since MR4 where turns went back to having constant back and forth.
>But they can play on my turn!!
Yeah, that's exactly why. Solitaire shit is cancer.
poor bait
Nothing bait about raw facts.
kashtira is generally considered fair because you can break it with single splashable breakers, you rarely have to use more than 2 (mostly for Shangr-Ira).
the upcoming meta will not be fair, though, it's Halqdon 2: Tomahawk Chop
slightly better bait but still very poor
Teargays do be seething
I don't play Tear
No that's me
>macro on legs
>snipe ed because lol.
>shifter.
>if not shifter go full wank with auroradon.
>tear b***h too.
Frick off.
>deck that loses to mushroom man #2
>good
Please Konami
Rose Dragon support
Pls
They printed Rose Dragon support. Its name is Crystron Halqifibrax, and they should free him.
That's not what I meant and you know it. They did her dirty in the anime. She's earned it
>Schizos whining about their imaginary cheating boogyman again
>release the traptrix support
>don't release the missing insect support that came alongside the crystal beast stuff
clockworld night also still isn't in the game either and came out in the same pack
What are your favorite Dark cards?
Whether because of how viable they are(/were), how cool they look, or how strong they seemed in the anime.
Tearlaments
>nobody noticed I snuck in Obelisk
Good morning sirs
they print stuff like traptantalizing tune then print stuff like that
Konami's card design is very schizophrenic
BraFu and Tear released within a few months of eachother yet one omni-locks youu into fusions while the other is completely free
This also was around Branded Fusion's Japanese release
>Is that GY hate?
>AIIIIIIIE SAVE ME BANLIST
It is a good card but hardly busted by modern standards.
Cool card art. Looks like a Halo arena or something
You ever wonder why we're here?
One of life's greatest mysteries, innit?
Post based floodgates
still the best years later
the gy is supposed to be the dead card space
Always chuckle when I read that last bit, gotta keep those element sabers in check.
The best part about playing Necrovalley is knowing that Elementsabers don’t want you to, and it’s important to Necrovalley, so that you can remind sabers that they can’t have anything good in life. They’re allowed to have first turn and Palace of the Elemental Lords, and Lapauila Mana. Hey, that's a pretty good Necrovalley... Not that a Elementsaber would know.
you mean bad floogates
The one and only
Why is sales ban Rhongo legal?
Because it's a really shitty and inconsistent strategy
So was Gossip Shadow, it was way easier to disrupt than Sales Ban and you could actually stoll out Rhongo
Simply not true
sales ban is a non searchable main deck card which is less consistent than a ED monster
>sales ban is a non searchable
until Thrust gets released
>less consistent than a ED monster
You could disrupt the combo at any time with any hand traps, and even if Rhongo gets summoned stall him out because his mats still detatch.
>stall him out
Hope you were playing a trap deck because setting a monster and passing isn't going to do jack shit while your opponent has free reign.
It's not a problem.
the game is shit
Imagine complaining about an """FTK""" that ONLY works when you go blind second
Imagine defending fricking winning without interacting with your opponent at all. Every single FTK should be banned no matter how inconsistent it is except Exodia, and only for legacy reasons.
FTKs are pure soul and Yugioh is Solitaire at its foundation
It's not a FTK. It's a second turn kill.
Decks for this feel?
I'm not quite sure I get it but P.U.N.K for example would fold to all those if that's the point.
Sexo with DM Sheou!
>reach D3 before chink hours begin
>good win/lose ratio compared to the morning when I demoted to D5
2-5 PM is the comfy time.
What are the coolest decks?
Ice barrier
Dragon Link
Ghoti
Reddit deck.
Reddit website
Icejade
Icejades lost(unlike Kitt)
If Kitt is so cool how come there's no Kashtira Kitt
They didn't lose, but their victory costed Aegirine everything.
she filled out once she got older
dark world
These guys look cool but how do they play? Is Grapha any good?
These are pretty neat.
The only ones I think are cool are Selen and the one your posted.
B.E.S
I'm particular to Dogmatika, Therions, and Endymion but all decks are cool for the most part if you don't consider their meta strength, I enjoy the card art in a universal way while trying not to think of how asshurt I get from watching a tearlament mill their entire deck on my turn.
vendread
Crusadia.
Using Therion Kang Regulus as an extender is an interaction I will never grow tired of.
The coolest decks are the ones where the in game mechanics mirror the conceptual theme of the deck. Like how Super Quants are all power rangers and when you xyz with them it's them summoning their specific robot, and you get buffs if you xyz into the right color robot with the right color pilot. Even though it's super annoying to fight, Runick is also one of the cooler decks since its (you) fighting against the monsters by activating quick play spells while your fairy friends help you keep your spellcasting going by protecting/finding your field spell.
The worst decks are just generic "good stuff" cards where they can special summon a million times from wherever just because and xyz/link/fusion because it's a strong mechanic that can be abused and none of it means anything thematically.
>Springans
>Generaiders
>P.U.N.K
>Vendreads
>Earth Machine soup
This is why I love Melffy alot
>cute little animals
>come out to play when the coast is clear (special summon themself at End Phase)
>when something scary shows up they run and hide (jump into your hand and activate effects)
>spells and traps effects mirror the name of the card
>Tag summons a Melffy from GY (Tag, you're it!)
>Staring Contest makes you reveal the Melffy to apply the effect
>Hide-and-Seak saves you once from destruction like the Melffy just dodge the effect by hidding
>Playhouse mimics the Playground buddy system by bouncing monsters equal to the Melffys you detach
This is why I really wanna play Vanquish Soul so much.
anything that's not waifu/fujoshit
So there's basically no reason not to run all the kashtira maindeck monsters in practically any deck since they shit themselves out for free right?
Do it and see how well it works out for you.
Is that a threat? I'll fricking do it.
It's not a threat just at some point you'll realize you are making a kashtira deck instead of w/e you had before, if you want to run all the monsters you'll probably want to run the continuous and field spell and if you do that well either your playing a pile or?
Only Kashtira Fenrir since it searches itself. I don't know if I should add it to Labrynth since I'm already running Ishizu and Bystials, the deck space is already too tight.
>two games to plat 1
>Game 1: maxx c hero player. Let him search mask change because I think I can deal with Dark Law pass
>dark law pass is too damn strong for my soulful swordsoul deck. Can't OTK him because my tenyis all got banished
>his turn. He has everything but literally blows up his own board by fricking up
>Game 2: Labrynth sets four
>activates big welcome
>EEVs me
>drew dimensional fissure but didn't think to use it until after I got my first synchro out
>uselessly burns through all his traps without once taking advantage of lady's effect
>synchro summon next turn
>You are not plat 1
So that's what it looks like when people don't know how to use their decks.
>not
*now
this deck just lost to my pure naturia deck while also nibiruing me lmao
so much for the tier 1 deck
>55 card slop losing
what a surprise, must be bricking or milling blanks every game
You don't play pure Naturia.
here is my pure naturia deck, homosexual
That's an Ishizu Vernalizer Fairy Naturia deck.
thats not a tier 1 deck just a cheater slop pile
schizo
>hurr Ikea Lab xD
Kill TCG trannies.
Our noble princess Labrynth would never settle for such third rate furniture, how outrageous.
The twins come in pack?
When is the last time you remember tributing two monsters to normal summon a bigger monster?
does lava golem count?
I was playing despia darklords in the lab event
Yesterday
Recently I tribute summoned maximus to clear space for other summons, not technically a bigger monster though.
everyday
Why the Fiend vs Fairy Festival of course. I need to use Morningstar's effect to MILL. And yes I did do it for real instead of using Condemned's effect to banish monsters.
pre ishizu. but not my monsters tho
I wish they would put in some alt art for blue-eyes. But seeing that dark magician only has 2 in guessing its gonna be a while. That being said I'd also like to have the evil version or Yugi's DM too. I guess konami doesn't want to animate more cards then they have to.
frick forgot picrel
>Enter the Voivode
Vampire ghost is how all support should be, sticks to the game plan and enables without being a floodgate or omni negate.
Based
Holy shit dude, get sucking.
Smacking a Floo Black person with Nibiru
>normal summon
I tributed my own shit to run over Empen
>if your opponent Normal or Special Summoned 5 or more monsters this turn
Yeah, you still can't read the post.
I accept your concession.
i tribute summoned using 2 shitty small danger monsters for Grapha to make coach king gaintrainer and draw THRICE
Is there a good video resource to understand how chaining and other game mechanics work? Some anon tried to explain to me how some effects go off simultaneously and why I couldn't chain my geafried to yuki-onna and it went right over my head.
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Simultaneous_Effects
This page answers your question but tldr: When he summoned Hajun, he was able to use both Yuki-Onna's and Hajun's effects at the same time, and Gearfried can only respond to the last effect applied to the chain (which was Hajun's and not Yuki-Onna's)
https://www.masterduelmeta.com/top-decks/win-streaks/may-2023/rose-dragon/feeb/qD5_O
Is it kino?
I don't like infinite negates but I'll admit that seems like a cool deck, I didn't know about that sylvan link 2 but it seems really good for plants.
Why does Labrynth get to just hand rip you for free?
Lab players will swear up and down it's fine to handrip your twice before your own standby phase because they're taking the risk they hit something that triggers in the GY as if that somehow makes up for the fact that you're ripping cards from the fricking hand and half the time you can't even respond to it.
There is a risk because you're investing resources on using a Big Welcome that can easily be Ash'd, leaving you with a fat load of nothing to protect yourself during the opponent's turn. Even then, the fear of GY effects is real.
Also count the fact Belle fricks Big Welcome and Silver herselft is a prime Imperm target.
Unlike Smoke Grenade you have more ways to stop Lab handrip.
>blind handrip
>Agido
not yet
>opponent opens ghost ogre, ash, and called by
it's that easy to deal with runick
>Vernusylph
You think we can't see that? Nice """pure""" Naturia deck, homosexual.
bro why u sucking my dick?
gtfo homosexual
Why are you black?
Don't mind me, just keeping the meta in check. My pet deck needs it.
Just spend two hours bouncing between diamond I and IV, didn't think labrynth would have this many problems with ash and bystials, unironically climbed back to dia I with marincess, what the frick is wrong with this season?, also ban super poly for the love of god
Ban Maxx c so it stops taking up my deck space and people stop running ash
>branded/labchud
>and people stop running ash
That's not going to happen.
Depends on the format. It happens somewhat commonly in TCG.
Nah, ash does jackshit to a ton of decks in MD that aren't cancerous elsewhere, pend comes to mind, also d link and tear laughs at ash and they only run it for maxx c
>stop pend with ash.
Spright/Tear/Kash are too resilient to handtraps and Ash sucks against all of them. If Maxx C was banned every deck would have cut Ash the past few months and replaced her with board breakers.
Ash doesn't suck against Theosis. Sure,you will have something sniped, but as far as disruptions go it's probably one of the strongest. If Kash didn't have moronic triggers then Ash would just be an auto-include against them
>and people stop running ash
Every TCG deck runs Ash.
Don't hate me cus I'm beautiful homie maybe if you got rid of that old yee yee ass deck you'd get some b***hes on yo dick
https://twitter.com/hjm3v3/status/1687398191820603393
>snow in tear
>chained it to every bystial
unironically why?
he ended up banishing every tearlament card in his deck
it always boggles my mind that people chain their own bystial to my bystial for no reason. I'm just going to fricking use it again next turn moron.
as a tempo play
also if they only have one light/dark in grave they benefit from doing it
https://www.masterduelmeta.com/top-decks/duelist-cup/3/p.u.n.k./%E3%81%9F%E3%81%99%E3%81%8F/Z1sfr
How is this punk deck? I keep opening ze amin into imperm/ash/veiler/anything with my punk zombies with zero followups because it's zombies and I'm fricking sick of it, is this list more resilient? Followup question, which UR Extra does this want the least between the dragite, orcust, or zeus?
Sometime Ze Amin gets negated and your turn ends or sometimes you play through 3 interruptions and combo off. Emergency Teleport is broken. Instant Contact is another extender to go into level 7/10 Synchros.
P.U.N.K. is generic to be played alongside other engines that don't mind discarding.
That list is six months old anon. The same guy that played it wound up playing P.U.N.K. Bystials for Master Duel Worlds. I don't think the Worlds decklists are publicly available yet.
Aren't the WC decks going to look somewhat weird because of the shared cardpools?
His teammates were Spright Melffy and Branded Tearlaments, so if anything the Branded player got fricked over by not being able to use Bystials.
The Worlds lists aren't that weird because the strategy for most wasn't to play suboptimal versions of a deck, it was to either give a teammate 1 deck(Tear) that was completely self contained, or pick decks that didn't overlap. So every deck they played was basically at full power. Especially since every team picked the roach and Ash as their shared cards.
The winning team's decks are on MDM, it's missing or two and the sky striker deck is incomplete.
Games where I can play through at least 1 hand trap are a good bit more common than ones I lose to a single hand trap. Get Zeus first just because you want him for almost every deck. Dragite is second most important and Ding third. You can play the deck fine without any of them, but you'll have the occasional game where you want the Dragite or be cursing that you have no non-targeting removal.
Bad, either add Therions or Bystials.
>Mr. Konami how can we fix normal summoning and tribute summoning?
>Just make them special summon, but call it a normal summon
>what if you were permanently under Winda lock
That's why Normal Summon decks have to break said Normal Summons
This is the thing about Floo that pisses me the frick off. They literally just special summon on both turns but call it a normal summon. They might as well print a card that says "normal summon from deck" to dodge the roach.
unban ultimate offering
>normal
>special
nega summoning when?
yes
gib gemini monsters that can reveal themselves to normal summon
what the... is that new spirit support? I'm guessing its nothing amazing though
It's exosister support.
It make rank 4 soup far more stronger.
Normal Summon Aratama, search Sakitama, reveal Sakitama , Normal Summon Sakitama. It's a free R4NK that sees use in Mathmech or Exosister
its a good monster for rank4 decks
and the 5 monarch players that exist
Sakitama is also kind of nice generic fairy support, just another extender and won't count toward roach.
When are we getting this anyway? I need it for my meme spirit deck.
I want to wring the necks of every Pendulum player. I am fricking sick and tired of watching them pop and cycle the same four Magician Pend monsters over and over again on a non-HOPT. Absolute braindead fricking garbage
>bitching about petdeck
Lmao
shut the frick up you black ass jigaboo
Are ya winnin, Lab?
Knight-san just summoned Sekka, it's not looking too good.
Reminder that you live in a world where N fricking A won world.
Has the OCG ever gotten this cucked before?
ocg will unironically never recover
maxx c needs to go to 5
predicting that they unban roach for world 2024
It wouldn't matter Japan is buckbroken by Tear that they'll try to jam as many discard engines to make that pile deck despite the combined World banlist that has both Chaos Ruler, Snow, and Auroradon banned.
Japan will mandate a Maxx C unban in the TCG next banlist update. Buy your Maxx C playset NOW.
>labtroon only play one lovely
>Tearlaments
>Exosisters
>Sky Strikers
>Labrynths
>Dragonmaids
>Live Twins
>Rikkas in Worlds
>Oohime
Bystials sure do get around
josh won worlds and in the first couple months of md he made a anti maxx c video
all teams made maxx c their shared card
only 9% of decks aren't uninfected by the level 2 earth insect
fricking kneel bugmen
time to get it banned
doesn't mean shit lmao
they had a similar line in duel links and TTH (treacherous trap hole) shit up the game for like 4 years
they were moronic enough to put visible card usage rates into the game
so that basically makes them liable to false advertising since they're openly lying about the banlist
That mean shit since OGC also have moron high usage on roach. If they ever wanted bug gone they would had done long ago.
But they still keep around with excuse of checking combo decks.
Honestly the only thing keeping maxx c around in the OCG does is make slightly less good decks like VS have more usage than normal
What keeps the roach around in the OCG is tradition because literally every decklist the past 5+ years has been warped around that card, and their banlist is heavily influenced by it too. If Maxx C got banned tomorrow the OCG would have to copy a shit ton of TCG hits alongside it that they currently don't have due to the reasoning that stuff like Block Dragon's okay because of Maxx C(this reasoning is wrong anyway though).
>currently don't have due to the reasoning that stuff like Block Dragon's okay because of Maxx C
block dragon is okay because it's fun that's why it's allowed
The reasons are as diverse as there are cards in yugioh, this is like "why Hannibal never invaded Rome", we're never going to get a real answer
Ada don't really see that much tourno play. Banlists only start moving when something obviously broken is around or see lot of tourno play.
I'm so sick of hearing drooling morons defend broken cards as "fun". You're either dumb enough that you don't understand why a card is too good to remain unbanned because your shitdeck can barely utilize it fully, or you're shit enough at the game that you know it is broken and you need it to win.
don't care, didn't ask and quite frankly i didn't read. i love the based lego dragon thank you based ocg for valuing fun.
Stupid dumb frick porch monkey
>Kitkallos mills 5, is OPT, needs to be fused using specific materials
REEEEEE BROKEN BAN BAN BAN!!
>Block Dragon SEARCHES 3, offers protection, is easy to summon
This card is ok cause it's "fun"
I don't get this thread.
Tearlaments are a good deck, Adamancipators aren't. It's as shrimple as that
Tearlaments are a fun deck. Adamancipators are cancer. Simple as.
Entirely irrelevant.
Bug rewards fat end boards more than usual. Sure with roach gone mean more gas or some tech stuff, but that would mean boardbreakers actually doing their job.
Besides, roach give them reason to keep broken shit around.
in paper there's no way to prove how highly played a card is so they can basically lie
but in MD we have hard data that the roach has over 90% use rate so the statement about why they haven't banned it is proven bullshit
if they want to keep it legal they would either have to remove that paragraph from every banlist from now on or artificially """"edit"""" the visible usage rate so that they aren't liable for false advertising
SOOOOOOO TRUE TCGsister, Maxx C ban SOON! This time for SURE!
>in paper there's no way to prove how highly played a card is
Yes there is? Deck lists are public.
what a silly cope
BAN THE FRICKING BYSTIALS
Our heroines
lets ban martha
Do I really need 3 ofs karakuri for kashtira format? Which one should I craft?
Be the judge of it for yourself when it comes. If you're playing in low enough ranks it won't matter. Or if Konami does a good banlist(lol) it won't matter. You shouldn't need 3 regardless though. Maybe you'd want to bump Carp or Dragon Drive to 2 but don't craft now, just hold onto some UR points.
Also you're not trying to win a tournament so who cares?
Kashtira players don’t know that P.U.N.K. does they’ll just banish Chaos Ruler or PEP. Which doesn’t really stop your actual plays.
moronbro, it's KURIKARA not KARAKURI
Wait, my mistake. I thought you were asking about backup extra deck monsters for Kash. KURIKARA is the card that's good vs Kash, not Karakuri. And it's not the only good card vs them, and there's no telling where it'll actually be on the tier list so don't waste crafting points on it. You can just run Nibiru or Book of Moon or whatever which are great vs Kash and more reliable vs other decks.
Ban Maxx C
Ban CBTG
Ban Kit
Ban Block Dragon
Ban Chaos Ruler
Ban Elf
Ban Kelbek
Ban Agido
Limit all Tear names
Limit BraFu
Limit Bystial Lubellion
Never release Arise-Heart
Master Duel is saved
moron ;p
they could do everything you listed there right now and the format would still be absolutely awful
t. swordsoulless chink
Good point
Ban Baronne
Ban Protoss
Limit Robina
>Limit Bystial Lubellion
He was limited at Worlds and look how that went.
I don't even know what you hit from Paulie's deck that's realistic. Ban Ravine again? Seyfert or Quick Launch to 1? Banning something like Seals or Striker Dragon feels stupid.
Konami never learns, and as long as players like Joshua Schmidt hold the same on opinion on d link it will never die
>you cant play the same deck forever
>no deck should be viable forever
>except dlink, because "its not that old"
DLink never feels old because Konami never stop printing stupid dragon support.
Im fricking livid about dwagins, they're as obnoxious as pend soup, ive seen multiple pros not even know what to hit because its like playing whack a mole in a casino
For as much as Seals pass is a meme banning that card would legitimately hurt the deck quite a bit. Removes tons of followup and the ability to end on it after an interruption.
>except dlink, because "its not that old"
5 YEARS OF DRAGONS homosexualRY
Decks lasting a long time isn't that weird. Glad Beasts, Monarchs, and Lightsworn all lasted a decade.
Reminder that konami only hit GB because people never stopped playing it.
I was quoting Joshua in those three greentexts, he was probably being either oblivious or fascetious
dlink has evolved multiple times
its a pile of generic dragon cards and support
it will basically never die since dragons will always get support
they basically tried to kill it with wyrms but it didn't work so they gave up
The constants across all builds are the Rokkets. Just ban Tracer, Striker, or Quick Launch.
Dragon Link would still be a relevant rogue deck with all of those at 0
they would just replace it with the next best thing
dlink can never die unless they ban all dragon and chaos cards
If the next best thing isn't good enough to keep the deck in contention then who cares? The point is to stop the deck from being one of the best for 5 years, not kill the type outright.
>lower a decks power level? no you have to outright kill it or it doesn't matter
lole
cope seethe dilate
YOU BAN THE FRICKING BYSTIALS
Enact Total Waifu Death.
Ban Maxx "C".
Ban handrips, turnskips and all continuous S/T floodgates.
Boom, Yugioh is saved.
>limit all cards to one
>minimum deck size 60
>may mix only two archetypes per deck
fixed the game
When should I give up on pulling for a pack? I haven't gotten a single Lubellion but I have 3 of all the other Bystials.
I give up when I want less than half of the featured cards in the pack.
>Do I have MOST of what I need from the pack already?
>How many Gems have I spent on it already?
Like 90% of new packs I swear have some sort of limiter preventing you from pulling one specific card at all. I ended up having to craft Kairyu-Shin three times back when the Umi pack dropped and I learned from it.
Personally I'd just stop and craft Lubellion since the exact same thing happened to me with the Bystials.
>I ended up having to craft Kairyu-Shin three times back when the Umi pack dropped and I learned from it.
I was at the opposite from you. I end up with 3 karyushin + whale + all marincess URs when I only want sharks + advent.
For starters dust the 2 magnamut you have, I normally just craft what I want after 5-6k.
you can cope and seethe all you want, konami will never stopped printing good the holy trinity of YGO archetypes (dragon, magician and warrior) support
>magician
>good support
Man I sure wish I could play a good Spellcaster soup deck that's not fricking Pendulum. You dumbass.
>Holy Trinity
>Dragons
>Magicians
You mean ROBOTS AND DEVILS right bro?
>warrior
when has a warrior soup deck been good since the death of isolde turbo dogshit?
>Maxx C
>Maxx C
>Maxx C
>Bystial Tearlament
Why does nu-Konami refuse to ban shit?
Maxx C and Bystials are fine, Tears will be fine as soon as they ban Kitkallos.
>Bystials are fine
kys yourself
They are fine, thoughever.
>piss easy special summon conditions
>grave hate
>handtraps
>effects on top
>Lubellion shits out value and strong back row by simply drawing him or Magnamhut
>carried D-Link through Worlds
Nothing is "fine" about this broken package
They're a D.D. Crow sidegrade that are basically dead cards in certain matchups. They're fine.
And when you can't banish your opponent's monsters, you simply banish your own and combo off. Why should a card be able do both? Why should there be fricking four of them with Lubellion on top?
Dragonruler this entire archetype.
That is simply never going to happen.
Your answer to everything you find a little annoying cannot be to Dragonruler the archetype.
Just take the Lights and Darks out of your deck and the Bystials turn into bricks.
>Just take the Lights and Darks out of your deck and the Bystials turn into bricks.
HOLY moron
Play Earth Machine, moron.
Climb out of Diamond 4
They don't want to accept that you can banish your own cards to gain advantage especially once branded regained and beast are in play.
They make dogmatika so much better when you can banish and recycle your ED cards while drawing each turn.
Oh no, they make Dogmatika(Tier 7 deck) better? We have to ban them bros...
Do you not know what an example is?
I haven't tried Bystial Dogmatika. Got a list?
Ever since Xbox said no to twitter I don't bother sharing lists anymore, it's just dogmatika with 3x lubellion and however many of the other bystials you want to run.
I run a lot because I don't run most other handtraps.
A cracked hand gets you a ton of interruptions and you can even bounce back from shit like evenly if you keep regained on the field.
Oh, so what you're saying is they benefit Light/Dark decks just as much as they hurt them? What's the problem then?
I don't have a problem but that has to be the other guys point in that they enable dark / light as much as they hurt them.
Whoever it is they just can't articulate how they feel without sperging out.
>grave hate
>handtraps
I think it is more or less because how ubiquitous light/dark monsters are.
>as soon as they ban Kitkallos.
Tears are dead the moment they ban Kitkallos. Therefore, they're never banning her.
>Tears are dead the moment they ban Kitkallos.
lol
poor bait
>Tears are dead the moment they ban Kitkallos
Not unless Chaos Ruler also gets the axe. Tear's maindeck members are hit even harder in the OCG than in MD on top of a Kit ban, yet have been a top 3 deck for months and months still.
That's no longer a Tears deck. That's a Combo deck using Tears as a milling engine. It doesn't even play Lulu cause it simply can't.
That's like saying Brave Tenyi was a Swordsoul deck cause it ran like 5 Swordsoul cards.
No you stupid fricker, that's a Tear deck using P.U.N.K. as a milling engine. They're maxed out on Tear names they can legally play and the fusions are the center of their gameplan.
Good try tear apologist, the whole deck works because the tear main monsters enable the rest of the deck
Brave tenyi was so much fun to play. I miss it. They should unlimit all the adventurer shit and free halq.
Soon brother, soon
I will be playing this.
It actually had some interesting variety of lines you could take. It was overpowered for sure, but it was FUN.
I have multiple PUNK chaos dragon turbo grass pile decks.
Brave Tenyi was one of the most soulless decks in MD history. There's nothing "fun" about memorizing a Combo line and playing solitaire. You can get the exact same experience playing against a bot. Go do that.
If you like slop so much just play one of the Tear piles running around now.
The designer that created tears got demoted to Master Duel and now he is going to make sure his wife doesnt get banned
tearlaments are a fricking nothingburger and had less than a 40% winrate at worlds
They've been much more banhappy in the past year than normal, just look how much of POTE/DABL/PHHY is on the banlist. It's just thye printed archetypes of such abnormally high powerlevel that they all needed to get DRuler'd to feel fair.
That said the roach is still legal because they are lazy and rely too much on it's perceived balancing of the game.
Rulers got banned for far less. And they been avoiding pend like plague since PEPE.
Its ridiculous they keep whole POTE soup around.
NO. I WILL NOT BUY CASH.
YOU WILL REDEEM
Bystials are fair. You just need to stop playing a dishonest chaos deck. Light and Dark have had it good in the grave for 20 years and deserved punishment.
they should print bystials for earth cards too
earth piles are more degenerated than chaos
If Ash Blossom was printed today Ganker would think that it was the most broken card ever released and call for it to be banned
Ash is good but don't force 8 cards on deck to avoid it.
say that to all the brandedcucks playing crossout and fusion duplication to cope
unexpected dai into koumori dragon
you will never kill my dragon deck
I'm sure rescue hampster can summon something good alongside a vanilla dragon
hamster can only summon lvl3 or lower so this would be the best target and the lvl 3 rokket
there's no vanilla lvl1 dark dragon for baby metal dragon
>Dragon
>Cleary a Wyvern
Hmmmm... Nice try, but in your battle phase I flip Emergency Teleport summoning Risebell the Summoner in defense position.
KNEEL
I will not kneel.
>"Bystials are okay because they only banish light or dark monsters"
Yes.
That was a cool as frick play and it's a good thing it was possible
>DRAGONS SHOULD JUST INTA LOSE TO THEIR HARD COUNTER BECAUSE...THEY JUST SHOULD OKAY??
yes
Makes sense to me.
Wow you're so skilled. When did you come out as trans?
imagine being this buttblasted that your floodgate designed to do exactly one thing fails at its intended purpose
Ban every link monster Charmer
Ban every link monster
why he look like that
goofy early art
the actual beast in full view is supposed to be quadrupedal apparently
Why doesn't Master Duel have a good single player mode? All the good digital card games have one.
They really only need to add some kind of custom deck mode where you can give the CPU stuff you make and they'd be golden.
Runick decks are so much fun. I should just stop playing anything besides some random engine + a frickton of runick quickplays.
what are some fun decks with unique forms of removal?
I like Rikka because of the tributing and I've been playing Generaiders for the non-targeting attachment
I've got my eye on Gold Pride because of Baller but that shit won't be in the game for a while
Vaylantz can kick things to backrow. unfortunately it need be main deck monster to deal burn and raise genesis duke atk.
Relinquished
Make PUNK. Bounce 4 as a quick effect is very fun. Also it's a good investment for Gold Pride. Lair of Darkness is far better at tributing as cost, but it's a much worse deck. Penguins bounce but Nopenguin turns their bounces to banishes. Penguins fricking suck don't waste anything on them. Dogmatika removes stuff from the Extra Deck before they get a chance of summoning them. Get the Ninja structure deck when it releases in a day. One of their main plays is flipping the opponent's monsters face down permanently, and you can just attack directly to keep them hostage from the GY.
>Arise-Heart banishes ALL cards sent to the GY even yours
This card is way worse than I though with how people were gassing it up. I thought it was like Dark Law where it's a floodgate for your opponent only. You need to play a very specific kind of deck if you just expect to shit out this card and win, otherwise it fricks you just as bad.
>You need to play a very specific kind of deck
Yeah, you need to play Kashtira.
>very specific kind of deck
yeah
Kashtira. You aren't or can't play it out of archetype and Kash doesn't care about getting banished
People shit their pants over Kashtira when it's honestly not as bad. Lot of random shit decks can get wins on Kash because if they go for the full meme zone lock they instantly lose to Nib or Lava golem. If they go for arise-heart pass you just lose to the removal/negation of one single monster.
Kash want their cards banished. And anything you don't want to stay banished can get vored'd by Arise anyway since the attach constantly triggers.
ALL of Kashtiras cards don't care about being banished? Even the S/T? So it's an even worse Floo?
Birth constantly recurs them from the banish pile and Big Bang constantly pulls monsters out of Arise's ass to summon them back.
>You need to play a very specific kind of deck if you just expect to shit out this card and win, otherwise it fricks you just as bad.
Isn't it a good thing since most player swear that generic bad?
Oh shit, it's almost like you need to play Kashtira or something.
I will not put Kash in any of my decks frick you. I don't care how splashable it is. Not fricking doing it. Fenrir is not that good that I need to stick it in unrelated decks and by telling me I need to run this shit you're buying into a delusion fed to you by moronic eceleb yugitubers that would say the same thing about any new good card just to get obsessed metasheep to click into their videos.
>Just put it in any deck lol!!! your deck isn't competitive without it!
How about you frick off?
>I will not put Kash in any of my decks frick you. I don't care how splashable it is.
Fenrir is the only Kashtira card that's splashable. All the others should be played in a dedicated Kashtira strategy.
What about Unicorn?
You might as well build a kash deck.
???
>Run 3 of this fricker
>Go first
>Opponent breathes, Bye bye to your key extra deck monster.
You don't need to go full Kash to run this card.
I am not denying that it is a powerful card. But with 3 unicorn, why not running spell so you can shit out Fenfir for extra frick you. Oh, and another spell that recycle your Kash.And at this point you might as well building a kash deck.
theosis is NOT coming no matter how much you cope
>cope
I don't follow the leak.
Then keep your mouth shut and let the grown ups talk.
>grownup
>cannot keep on topic for a second.
ED rip is good only against some decks but not all decks run 1 of. Dlink might have a problem but frick them.
Because that's a question of whether your deck can fit that or not.
all of them are splashable
ogre is pretty funny
Scareclaw and Tears are also good in their other deck
Unicorn is good in speedroid
I will play Kashclaw and OTK
I'm actually quite surprised that Kashtira is being released at near full power considering how hard they hit Tears.
They aren't releasing Arise-Heart. That's the thing. Without Arise-Heart, the deck is not at full power.
they aren't releasing ANY of the PHHY support. the deck is DOA
Can't you just drop a Lava Golem on a Kashtira board and they just lose? This doesn't look good for them in a best of 1 format.
yes
kash is very easy to deal with
>draw the out
Well, kinda.
Numeron is Outs: The Deck.
Yeah but Ganker lose crying about cards that aren't really a problem, just ctrl f 'sales ban' or 'bystial' in this thread to see several examples
>Runick, Runick everywhere
Josh you absolute homosexual I hate you so much
TCG sweaties and making things miserable for everyone, name a better duo
Reminder he said Runick was "healthy for the game." Now because he won too, you're gonna have TCGcucks sucking his dick and defending his moronic takes to no end.
Runick as a toolbox is healthy and cool though. The stun version is ass and irrelevant.
I agree except the random mills can be extremely sacky. So many decks just fall apart after a specific brick gets milled, and having to run 2 of it just to not instantly lose sometimes vs one specific deck is shitty. But the Runick engine itself? One pop, one imperm, and a bunch of worse Instant Fusions is fine. All the semis in MD really did make a noticeable change in consistency too.
Also the battle phase still matters a lot regardless of what people say online. Giving it up is a major downside.
In what way can Runick be seen as "healthy for the game"? In what fricking world? How do you say this unironically? Is that real? I'm in complete shock and disbelief at the suggestion that anyone would ever think this. Not a single deck in the game, not even tears, makes me want to strangle my opponent to death so badly. Such an uninteractive, slow, moronic and toxic playstyle can't be good for any game.
kys
>In what way can Runick be seen as "healthy for the game"? In what fricking world? How do you say this unironically?
Blue players
Play around it or draw the out. You can deal with huge combo boards that shit out monsters with a dozen negates and infinite recursion when interrupted but you can't Ash, imperm or veiler the one fairy when it searches fountain? Or pop a single field spell three times until their three fairies are used up? It's not even an OTK deck, you have plenty of time to stop it.
Thanks, I wasn't asking for advice on the matchup in any way though you fricking homosexual.
>muh engine
doesn't change how toxic and cancerous it is and will still force the turn count higher because you can't swing for game after your funny free level 2 body special summon, you're trying to push your opponent into scooping because they don't want to play against that disgusting troony shit, nobody does.
you need to have a nice day NOW. imagine being a runick troony and a furry both. I wish death upon you, genuinely. Just die.
Can't hear you over the 6 cards I'm drawing.
>Get told how to beat the deck
>Prove it's weaker than other shit people are fine with
>Still throw a tantrum
Embarrassing
If you think you made any kind of valid point with your posts, you're a moron. Simple as.
>Still seething
lmao
You fricking waste of space. Stop posting, I never fricking asked for advice on the matchup, I beat the deck plenty, it doesn't change the fact it's annoying as frick and slow. Sort of like you, really.
>no DMG image
clearly not
yes the deck is dumb
the main card that enables their bullshit is fountain and it needs to get banned for not being a HOPT
>slow
The way Runick is used as an engine is anything but slow, and forces interactions because it removes your BP. Again, you are talking about the stupid floodgate turbo build that ruined ladder for a couple months.
runick is used as etele engine for spright and other bullshit
they mill win con is just a side benefit
Runick is awesome and is by far my favorite deck to play right now. The fur hire version in particular is super fun. It's actually a pretty fast-paced combo deck. It doesn't kill you quickly, but the game is basically over if you let me draw 6 cards at once.
I would say he is 80% right. The Runick decks he's talking about are mostly interactive, but the biggest problem with Runick is, deckout as a win condition is fricking unfun as shit. Just like no one likes the way Tears are for fricking gamblebrained morons randomly dumping shit, one of Runick's wincons is decking you out and that's bad because that's also winning on gambles sometimes that you just banish critical pieces of your opponent's deck. Deckout is fricking cancer, people want to be able to have the opportunity to play their cards in the first place, which is why Stun players should watch their backs in the parking lot leaving locals. The only reason the Runick decks Josh has played aren't as bad is because setting up a strong board state and playing Control with Spright or Synchros is the primary wincon, not the deckout. But just randomly losing shit from your deck is always going to suck.
EEV to three or finally massive floodgate genocide
more harpies when
source?
https://twitter.com/Rtari5/status/1688865503216095232
Laundry
is cute. But she's also very stupid.
Why is it called a retrain and not making a card obnoxious?
Obnoxious Laundry Dragonmaid would be a good card.
Unironically make retrain Laundry into Dragonmaid Martha and keept the restriction.
>need to craft 2 lubellion + zealantis for marincess
>ksharts in 1 day
WHAT DO I DO?
Give up on Marincess. The deck is washed. Make a good deck instead.
Don't play Marincess that deck is ass both to watch and play. Play based Umi control instead if you want a water deck.
This is the most baffling post I've ever seen. Is this bait?
The first half of the post is factual at the very least
Yeah, I agree with that part which is why the second part is confusing.
Are you saying Umi control isn't based?
It's got the most SOVL floodgate in the game with how it mimics Mako Tsunami's manga duels, but that's about all I can give it credit for.
His first sentence is right, Marincess Black person.
>Be marincess
>jerk off with long ass combo for a weak as shit towers and one or two interruptions
>Umi control
>activate "Umi"
>Summon badass sea monster
>opponent becomes so ashamed of his life choices that he sends his own monsters to the gy
One is clearly more based than the other
I've played against marincess twice. They spend so much time building up a board that gets cleared with most generic boss monsters and set up no interruption so they can't protect it, and then lose to the timer trying to rebuild on the next turn provided they don't die first.
They can protect against spells and traps fairly easily, but yeah against monsters they can't do much on the opponent's turn. They are one of those combo decks I rarely see people get angry at unlike Adamancipators.
They can't protect against either easily. Their reliable endboard is a single spell/trap negate that only works on your opponent's turn and a single searchable imperm. They actually can rebuild easily and their monsters all become towers after they use their imperm making them annoying to get rid of, but their ceiling is just way too low to be very good anymore. They also autolose to maxx C and struggle to play through other handtraps.
>Lubellion in Marincess
You don't need that card in Marincess.
Lub is for dlink and zeal is for sus.
Marins are solid rogue even today.
>Marins are solid rogue even today.
Anon. Stop.
>Lub is for dlink
Then just add Book of Moon/Eclipse, Kaijus/Lava Golem, and/or Swords of Concealing Light to your deck.
Marincess were barely Rogue in Branded meta when they had Toad, now that Toad is gone and POTE has powercrept the game by like a decade they're barely petdeck tier
>POTE has powercrept the game by like a decade
It gets almost completely walked back and they're good again once TearKash abominations die.
Soon, inshallah.
>Lub is for dlink
Half the decks in the game can run bystial package.
But 3 of them are only ran in d-link.
Yeah I already have the entire deck but I still need one zealantis because the nuke is just too good.
morons on Ganker who refuse to play good cards out of sheer autism are under the impression that every deck is splashing in the full bystial/branded beast engine and not just using Magnamhut, Saronir and Baldrake(usually at 1 copy each) as hand traps against Tearlaments, please understand. It's a very different game for them down in Silver IV
>confuses saronir and druiswurm
>claims to know anything about the meta
Zealantis is a good card in general. Marincess sucks, but Zealantis is nice to have if that's all you need for them.
gaylord
What if
Runick burn in 2024
Hmm.. Today I'm gonna stab the moon
That's pussy shit
The main problem with Runick is the fact all the "out" cards are mostly focus on Monsters not Spells so you either build for one or the other and in a bo1 format Runick feels like a b***h to fight.
Honestly, just cards like Ash Blossom or Maxx C often frick them over pretty hard assuming we're not talking Runick Stun. Backrow floodgates are their whole own problem.
I'd say that not knowing what you're up against with Runick is a problem.
>opponent summons Hugin
>oh you didn't Ash her? He has a hand of 3 more Runick cards and a floodgate
>opponent summons Hugin
>Oh, you DID Ash her? Normal Rex/Naturia or Special blue special jet etc
That's not a Runick problem though it's every version of Spright. The deck is ridiculously resilient to handtraps.
Also Runick stun is completely irrelevant. I don't think I've seen it a single time since Spright's release, it's just an objectively worse use of the cards.
Yeah Runick stun isn't good... Until the one guy still playing it manages to draw all the limited floodgates that counter your deck specifically. And a lot of people still try playing shitty stun decks because it's all they know.
But not knowing what variant of the deck you're facing makes it really hard to handle properly.
It's like when someone normals Ze Amin. If they're on pure PUNK then Ash on it or Foxy is a mistake. But if they're using it as an engine, then you are getting your Ash chainblocked vs the Chaos Ruler.
Isn't ashing foxy always fine? Even pure doesn't have that many ways to extend reliably.
You should ash the fusion
Even then it's still fine to ash there almost always. Most decks can play through a single ash, and even if they keep playing, runick often gets super cucked by it unless they open exactly tip. Even if they get to do stuff afterwards, it shuts down their draw engine so they're ending on a weaker spright board than the melfy versions or are baronne pass with molecricket in gy.
Outs and handtraps means jack shit when Runick is supported by other archetypes like Naturia, Fur Hire and Spright.
>ash Huging the nugget
>lmao Spright Starter
I wish I could manually lower my rank to Gold so I can start winning with Wights again