>evenly >negate the evenly >droplet >come back from the evenly >niberu >COME BACK FROM THE NIBERU >SECOND EVENLY >EVENLY MATCHED WILL FORCE YOU TO KEEP THE NIB TOKEN OVER ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IT FOR SOME FRICKING moronic REASON YOU CAN'T BANISH A TOKEN FACE DOWN
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Dark Magician player activates Eternal Soul to my backrow Lightning Storm
WHY DID HE DO THAT?!?!?!
HE KNOWS I KNOW HE SET IT
YOU FRICKING SHOWED IT TO ME
DID YOU THINK I WAS WIPING YOUR MONSTERS?!?!
He surrendered immediately.
(Tried converting it to webm with online converters into the smallest size and lowest quality, and still came out at 5.27 MB)
Anyways, I'm ending it on a high note. Started at Gold 2 and now near Plat 3.
Thanks
It's Platinum 4, this is the first rank it's actually possible to de-rank from losing in. You're not gonna really fight intelligent people until you hit Platinum 1, and even then you've gotta hit higher Master ranks to deal with people who know their shit and aren't just being carried by a meta strategy. Like it's very easy to memorize a Spright combo then press the negate button when your opponent does anything.
For the anon who failed to negate Evenly with Hot Red, I think this is what happened. Hot Red negates face up cards in the field, evenly effect applies as the card leaves the field, so it's not negated. If you're playing Blackwings, popping it with Shargna will destroy the card, but the effect will still apply. I think it's a similar concept.
Have you tried playing any light deck? I finished my Dark Side and went to get light and I swear to god its aids doing anything. Unless I waste my crafts on 300 different UR cards I had to play shitty Brick Eyes or some ungodly form of stall/burn. I saw a guy who tried to banish me out cycling runick spells + Fissure. He had 3 light monsters in the deck, just to try and stall for time.
Thank you once again to the anon who posted a turbo budget decklist of shitty light machines a few threads ago.
If you are playing against Kashtira, always remember to stop at Main Phase 2 and click on the screen and run the clock to waste their time, just like they wasted yours!
They can't have fun at your expense when you're having fun on theirs!
The good light decks are more expensive, while the dark decks are far more accessible.
Drytron basically completely walked all over this event, with it's ability to negate the entire hand, and even if they drew the out, they still need to deal with the Heralds in hand especially when restocked by Hip Hoshiningen recycling EVA.
Much fewer people built Exosisters (and Runicks) while Dark has had meta placement throughout almost the entire lifetime of Master Duel so someone is bound to have one deck they can play (even if they have to play unbelievably gimped builds like Despia Darklords it's something) and most people probably won't bother getting both titles
Won almost all my duels with my trusted Utopic Exosister Rank 4 spam deck
exosister has a bajillion URs and is otherwise a mediocre deck come without tear everywhere. runick also has a bajillion URs and has to be played with something else for your games to not last a bazillion years. meanwhile, lab is common and popular. you can slot in shit like spiders and labrynth setup to fill up the gaps made by the hits you took this event. you can play dlink without spheres. you can play branded tear in some capacity. you can play branded without tear. DM is basically untouched and is immensely popular. you're really only looking at utopia, drytron, and photon galaxy as off-meta light options, but most metatrannies dusted drytron so it's uncommon and the utopia stuff uses tons of non-light onomat cards for extention. even common light decks like blueyes still care about DARKs like linkuriboh, draglubion, levi, dictator, etc.
What's the budget build for lab? I got all the lab cards and staples like Maxx C, Ash, and Imperm but don't have other things that people are throwing in like Kash and Bystial
You can play it without Kashtira and Bystial cards those are just good for countering the current meta. Tears are going to be a lot weaker come next month so you might not really need them. After that you can make due with R/SR traps like Ice Dragon's Prison, Compulse, Torrential Tribute, Dogmatika Punishment, Ichiroku's Ledgerbook, etc. Honestly if you have all the Lab cards then that's 95% of the way to a "full power" build you're really only missing maybe some ED cards to pitch off Dogmatika Punishment.
It really is baffling how the Kash cards made it though any level of design. Who at Konami came up with a combo archetype focused around zone locking, milling, and Macro Cosmos? And more importantly how the frick did someone ELSE okay it?
But the OCG killed Kash before it could ever be the best deck for them, the list that kneecapped Tear was also the list that kneecapped Kash. Plus their rarity system doesn't really produce crazy chase cards like how Fenrir coste $70 in the TCG due to rarity bumping.
I mean that it should be OPT. That would even make sense with the 3 material requirement, if you summoned Arise with 1 monster on your turn, attached on your turn, attached on the opponents, now the banish is live. As opposed to now when he just activates constantly sucking up everything.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So you can cum buckets when Konami prints a good banish floating archetype and you get to trigger 3 of their effects every turn
I enjoyed Tear meta while it lasted and I'm already dreading Kashtira zone-lock shenanigans. Maybe part of that was the simulator doing the heavy lifting as far as resolving huge chains and keeping track of effects, but still. I did hear that Tear 0 was a nightmare IRL just due to time rules, I can see that being extremely annoying.
It's not even mirrors, I've never crafted Tear but the matches against them have been much more fun than any of the homosexuals on stun a couple months ago or how fricking cancerous Kash already is.
That said I will absolutely not miss Tear turning any monsters into Dharc into Sprind into Merrli.
Here's the thing, is there some fun to be had in Tear mirrors? Yeah. Do you get tired of Tears after several months? Yes.
I legit enjoyed playing Tear for a while, but there are only so many times I can see agido milling kelbek and then waiting for the chain to resolve.
Kash zone lock is preferable that way.
I definitely get being tired of Tear but Kashtira taking over the metagame isn't gonna be much better. If they're allowed to keep the 9-zone lock combos the game becomes open the Kaiju/Golem/Sphere Mode or instantly lose. If that genuinely lasts more than a month I'm gonna quit the game. Variety is good but I'd rather have it come from archetypes that actually let me play the game.
What's your secret tech that you think is underrated/undiscovered that you love using. Spill the beans anons. Let's hear it
i doubt this place can make a better job at designing new archetypes that both: incentivize buying new product and doesn't force one dominant deck each format
I'm not going to look too hard into it but Merrli in particular would be cracked in a reanimator-like deck. You only need one target unlike the others who need 2-3. >load up on 7-8 drops >t1 faithless loothing pitching merrli and atraxa >merrli triggers >just bring out another atraxa >drown in card advantage
Heartbeat would probably be good, there'd probably be some ramp into kitkallos into omniscience deck
Most Yugioh cards would be insane in Magic even if you gave them appropriate costs just because Yugioh is much more consistent and powerful than MtG. Most decks have numerous ways to search archetype specific spells and traps but with magic a lot of their search spells (called Tutors) don't even add cards to the hand, they just add to the top of your deck so you draw it next turn. Also, the idea of an extra deck is insane. It's basically a 15-card hand of guys you can summon whenever you meet some basic requirements, some of which are as little as "Control 2 monsters" or "Activate a specific spell card". There are entire Magic formats that hinge their gameplans on having essentially a 1-card extra deck.
I remember hearing about a Magic card that was emergency banned because it was essentially Fairy Tale Snow but without the book of moon effect. So just a big guy that you could summon from your graveyard constantly. They would summon that guy then beat you to death with it. That's the power level you're dealing with. So yeah, the Tearlament ability to summon from deck any guy of a combined mana cost would be moronic good. You could fill the grave with high-cost monsters, shuffle them back, and summon a card that actually does something as early as turn 1.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Didn't MTG add a keyword that worked kind of like the ED and have to basically remove the mechanic from the game? I think it was companion?
What I heard about it reminded me of what happens when they make skills in Duel Links. Giving a deck an always accessible tool that doesn't require drawing causes something like how giving Galaxy a skill to always foolish GEPD turned it into a deck full of just ways to summon back the GEPD, for example.
You put in one copy of PKRUM in Kash when Ariseheart is released
You force your opponent to have the out in the form of a Kaiju or you're Kali Yuga locking them
Shit forgot to answer this. My secret tech is that Mikanko will actually be pretty good in Master Duel because it'll be a competent going-second archetype that you can't side for or prepare for in game 2. In this, they're similar to Floo, which in a Bo3 scenario are easy to prepare for/side for in games 2 and 3, but master duel only has the first game.
I get the feeling they're gonna be surprisingly good as well. People are gonna sleep on the next pack cause KASHTIRA. But if Numeron has proven anything it's that dedicated going second decks can be extremely good in a bo1 format of they can easily get to their wincon with extreme consistency.
>mill opponent's Albaz >special summon it thinking it's a good play because he can't use it as fusion material >lose entire board to contact fusion because Konami loves jacking off to fusing opponent's monsters
It was bullshit back then with Chimeratech Fortress and it's still bullshit today.
>Frick off
Cope Tearshitter. I love how you morons actually convinced yourselves that they would never ever seriously hit your stupidly OP deck despite seeing both the TCG and the OCG attempt to murder it multiple times.
Merrli IRL ban coming soon btw
>Frick off
Cope Tearshitter. I love how you morons actually convinced yourselves that they would never ever seriously hit your stupidly OP deck despite seeing both the TCG and the OCG attempt to murder it multiple times.
Merrli IRL ban coming soon btw
Watching tear with the new banlist is kinda depressing even as a tear hater. Grapha pass? Baronne pass? Even swordsoul can make a better board than that.
I'm gonna miss the tear vs shaddoll matchup. I feel a weird sort of kinship since the banlist nuked both of our decks. On the bight side, shaddoll enjoyers have revolution synchron and consecrated light coming soon.
I really don't understand why Konami doesn't do DMG or Lab mates. Money on the table. Laundry is adorable though so I don't even know if I'd use them over her
Easier to make non human mates, and they shot themselves in the foot by making accessories very cheap/not cost real money so there's no incentive to make mates that sell.
>I really don't understand why Konami doesn't do DMG or Lab mates
DMG is boring boomer shit. Hope they never make a mate for it >Lab
Only if it's one of the furniture pieces please. Human mates are cringe
I like the furniture mate idea, but I think the best Lab mate would be Absolute King Back Jack. Sure he's not called a Lab card, but he's been in Lab decklists.
People here have said it's buggy, as in it has had crashes consistently happen when certain cards are played or card effects not working as they normally should. Still could give it a try, but just keep in mind that it's not perfect.
YGO is basically the only big card game with decent options for online sims. MD's only real drawback is being 6 months behind the TCG meanwhile Pokemon TCG live is unplayable+ugly and MTGA has horrible monetization.
Branded in general is a very poorly designed archetype. Branded fusion is part of the problem in that every Branded game is actually a mini-game where the branded player has to search ways to resolve that one spell each turn, but even without that, Mirrorjade is one of the most dishonestly worded cards in the game, and the fact that the branded playstyle seem to deliberately lean towards 'summon floodgate monster to your opponent's field' is just the worst.
It sucks because the lore is decently fun, some of the monsters are really cool, and Cartessia has the big breasts. Branded should be fun.
Banish not being HOPT + if you fuse Mirrorjade and bring him back he can get around not being able to attack the next turn (and banish again), I assume
I assume he means because it sends for cost, is a soft once-per-every-other-turn that plusses you, and pops the field with a lingering effect if you remove it.
Kitkallos is purely a combo piece. Despite 2300 Attack she isn't a boss by any means.
Mirrorjade effectively having 3 powerful effects and the highest stats among Albaz fusions and multiple recursion options (which it can search itself) is the biggest part of Branded Fusion being so broken.
If you banned Mirrorjade, Branded isn't even tiered anymore until Chimeras. Rindbrumm is outed by Bystials.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>If you remove the payoff, this deck is bad!
wow, scathing, interesting commentary on the meta by Ganker's most skilled duelist
>and the fact that the branded playstyle seem to deliberately lean towards 'summon floodgate monster to your opponent's field' is just the worst.
You guys are so full of shit
>the fact that the branded playstyle seem to deliberately lean towards 'summon floodgate monster to your opponent's field'
It really doesn't. The whole reason they have 2 cards that do that is to give yourself an Albaz and the opponent another monster to fuse with him. The puppet interaction is 100% just Konami being stupid and shortsighted.
Plunder already has an animation + avatar + sleeves so I can't really ask for more and I'd love a Purrely mate just because I like my mates to be pets and so far the only really good one is Imduk (Unchained mate when)
>A CAR IS FINE TOO OwO
>no one >absolute no one >not even a soul >ygo player when purrely
A CAR IS FINE TOO OwO
>GACHA.... LE BAD!!! >EXCEPT WHEN A PROPERTY FROM MY CHILDHOOD DOES IT THEN ITS LE GOOOOOOD >OMG DOES THAT BANNER HAVE A BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON ON IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM DOING INSANE HELP ME BLACK MAGICIAN
Master Duel gets a pass because of how F2P friendly it is. No one remotely smart spends real money on it though because of how fricking moronic the gem prices are.
Literally every modern gacha game starts out f2p friendly dumb ass if they front loaded the first 10 hours with only gambling people wouldn't have a chance to get addicted and then excuse their addiction by saying it's f2p friendly
>Literally every modern gacha game starts out f2p friendly
I mean it's been more than a year at this point and while the UR tax has gotten heavier, it's still piss easy to make whatever deck you want if you ration your gems wisely.
Yugioh, and Master Duel, has a lot of issues but cost isn't one of them.
Not him but while it's easy to keep up for someone who's been playing since launch it sucks for newbies because the secret pack system is ass. They've added like 4 since the game launched and there are tons of URs now locked behind crafting on top of the staples a newbie already needs to craft.
You still have to put in the time investment with all the dailies, events and ranked grind. It's really not that much different from other gacha games.
you haven't played any other gacha if you think the investment is similar at fricking all. Shit like Genshin and Epic Seven have fricking farming guides and sell bots to remove the tediousness from farming resources every single day.
In here you can just log-in, grab your live duel + daily log-in bonus, then leave. Then every third day you can complete your dailies.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It literally is though. It takes me 5 minutes to do dailies in other games and I'm done.
I’m cumming to the thoughts of Deluxe Purrely Mate that starts as Purrely on your first turn, at the start of your second turn it turns into Epurrely happiness and then on your third turn it turns into Expurrely Happiness.
Does the lab ED matter at all or is it just a pile to get banished for pots? I have a psychic end punisher so I'm sure like 2% of games it'll be relevant to welcome into summoning an ash or some shit and I'm sure dharc, mukracker, and knightmare phoenix come up, but other than that?
Mukracker, Knightmares, and Chaos Angel are the only things the deck really summons, but good ED targets are priorities for things like Dogmatika Punishment, one of the best normal traps ever printed. Sending N'tss turns it into 2 pops, sending Garura gives you a draw, sending Bucephalis II means you can send anything else you want. Outside of that it can all be pot fodder.
Not him but while it's easy to keep up for someone who's been playing since launch it sucks for newbies because the secret pack system is ass. They've added like 4 since the game launched and there are tons of URs now locked behind crafting on top of the staples a newbie already needs to craft.
This is true but they are releasing new secret packs at a decent rate now. Hopefully they'll keep it up and we'll have packs for all the archetypes released since the game came out. It feels weird that there's no way to roll for Bystials, Runick, Spright, Exosisters, etc, but we did get Swordsoul, PUNK, Adventure, and Labrynth so it's definitely being worked on.
If you're carrying Extravagance, Chaos Angel and Mucracker are mandatory 3-ofs. If you're carrying Dogmatika Punishment, add 3 N'tss to that list and some other GY effect cards like Garura, Bucephalus, Wind Pegasus and Mereologic Aggregator. Fill the rest with utility, myself I have Baronne because I carry Fenrir, and Goddess because you never want to go out of home without her in your ED.
so uh, how many of the YGO archetype lores are secretly spooky? >traptrix eat people >melffys are actually humans turned into animals who slept in the melffy forest >madolches are actually dolls and the chateau is just imaginary >dream mirror king traps adults in nightmares where they wander forever
One of these is not like the other.
Also the Mikanko lore.
https://ygorganization.com/vbex3-number-7-mikanko/
Also Water Enchantress really is evil. You just don't get to see it because Konami killed off the Adventurer archetype.
I kashtira-locked my opponent on turn 4. He did not scoop so I figured he had kaijus/sphere/golem. Ended up draw/pass for 29 more turns until he decked himself out and he never had any out. What drives a person to not concede when they know they cannot win and waste their time like that?
thats what im wondering too. I just wanted to see what hed do once he couldnt play the game anymore so I didnt attack his life points to 0 and was also just passing until he decked out. wanted to see what hed do / why he didnt just quit. was funny bonking him with maxx c tho
Whenever you see something like , always remember to do this
If you are playing against Kashtira, always remember to stop at Main Phase 2 and click on the screen and run the clock to waste their time, just like they wasted yours!
They can't have fun at your expense when you're having fun on theirs!
>Is this the twitter gay?
I don't know what that means. I'm just some guy that was talking about Persona 5 with someone and trying to help with deck lists
You can probably frick with the pot ratios. Also you don't need Drident there so you can ignore that UR. It's only really for popping Lucky Punch on your own turn but if you don't already have it lying around then it's worthless.
It isn't even tier 3, bystials in basically anything else is stronger.
Dragon Link has a ton of card overlap yet it's the best deck while Thundra is barely playable.
>play deck that can't play through Nibiru >auto-lose if they have it >play deck that either consistently plays through Nibiru or everything floats off it >card does nothing
I hate this card so much. I don't even combo that hard. My BnB is only 5 summons.
I actually think Called By the Grave is the most unhealthy card, even more than Maxx C. And not because it stops Maxx C, it just makes going first too fricking good especially on top of Maxx C. Maxx C is the second most unhealthy card.
That's the problem though, you shouldn't be dealing with handtraps, you should be taking losses to them that matter instead of getting to play for free and overextend comfortably and then set a fricking card that just rapes GY monster effects and lingers for two turns. And no just because shit like Shifter and Maxx C exists doesn't justify Called By, all of these things should be fricking banned for being a cancer to the game.
>it just makes going first too fricking good
Gamma does the same thing as is an even bigger payoff, since it makes an invulnerable Baronne. or results in a handrip.
TCG tops are even running Gamma at 1 just to autowin if the opponent tries to Droll them. Going first is broken.
The issue with Evenly is it doesn't nuke the Graveyard, and the Graveyard is the second hand. So even if you say wipe the Spright board, they can OTK you the next turn with Elf into Jet into Gamma Burst because they don't need to resolve Beaver into Angler a second time, all their necessary searchers are in the Graveyard.
Maxx "C" makes sure that you keep pace with every special summon so it is stronger.
But evenly is still a blowout against nonT1 decks. It's not fair to evaluate a card based on it's natural counter otherwise Maxx C is bad because floos "normal summon" 5 times a turn instead of special summon.
>nonT1 decks
Such as?
Going back to MR4 and toss, Thundra is the only deck that loses to Evenly.
With MR5 only Eldlich lost to Evenly. Drytroon, Dilator, Based, Swordsoul, Branded don't lose to it.
Tears, Kash and Bystial are you current Tier 1 and they actually lose harder to evenly than non meta.
Fricking grind ass games, man. Mill deck with Baronne + Abyss turbo, into Bagoosk Zeus recovery, into Barrone Darc recovery once I out that too. Had to win the game with Triple Tactics.
Maxx C is not the problem, Generics and Hand Traps are. Errata every end-board extra deck monster to require a material of their archetype and the negation hand-traps to be a new card type (monster/trap), then slap MR6 "you can only use one hand trap per duel". Solitaire is pretty much over.
Hand traps aren't the problem either, it's more that anything that can be abused going first gets subsumed into extreme go-first decks. Gamma, Tactics, and Ash were designed to help going second interact with the turn 1 player, but instead they're much stronger for the turn 1 player.
Nobody complains about Imperm, and it's a stronger card going second than first. Sure, you can set it and get a column negate, but it also becomes vulnerable to field destruction. There are stronger traps if you want to set something.
gamma and maxx c are probably the worst of the bunch. >oh you tried to ash my rota/e-tele? >get fricked. I get a free chaos ruler/omega/draco berserker/etc. >oh you opened nothing to interrupt my combo going second? >well good luck playing through maxx c to boot
Maxx is still better for the going second player because opening it is a brick. Any deck that can still full combo with 1-2 dead cards in hand is the problem, not the handtrap.
1 card combos is the cancer killing the game, and virtually every new deck has at least one, if not two.
Hand traps are a bit of a problem, yes. Assume a situation someone Maxx C you as you break their board, there is no negation that will be drawn by it only combo pieces or traps/normal spells (limit 1 hand-trap per duel). All you'll do it's give him fuel that could reconstruct a board (assuming a top tier deck), if you can destroy it. That's fine enough, because if you could destroy it, then you'll likely still have resources for his turn to interact and most likely won't die turn 3. After that it's a matter if your board can be reconstructed too.
That's a perfectly fine game state, in my opinion. The game is still funneled to your first turns, but now you get to play the game, assuming your deck can start through the board.
And errata-ing the end-board generic monsters would help here. We can even be more "fair" than archetype and do types. No Baronne if you don't have a plant material, no I:P if you don't have Cyberse, no Verte without a plant, etc. In general end-boards would likely have a lot less negates for you to play through in a situation like this.
>All you'll do it's give him fuel that could reconstruct a board
Before Bystials I had no issue with Dragon Link dropping Maxx "C". Dragon Link has to invest 8, 9 cards into their endboard so anything they can make after that is weaker. The worst thing they could draw into was Ash.
Same goes for Marincess or Salads. Any deck that has to run multiple extenders in the Extra, to end on a boss, has little main deck muscle even if they can still combo after Maxx "C".
Bystials changed the game in the bad way, they caused the extinction of Accesscode Talker and most OTK decks in general.
>free body for the cost of banishing a single light or dark monster in either grave. Powerful extenders going first >grave hate handtraps that can't be Ashed or Called by'd. Quick effect is on when Gamma is off. >stops OTKs because you can summon them in defense mode during combat >STILL HAVE ADDITIONAL EFFECTS ON TOP OF ALL THIS BULLSHIT
It amazes me how all four lvl 6 Bystials haven't been banned yet.
They'd probably have to be gutted if the goal is to break the bullshit solitaire gameplay, yeah. Under the wishful-thinking rules I said above, I guess you make them hand traps and only one of them (maxx c, ash, any of the bystials) can have their hand effect used per duel; remove the quick-effect; or make so it's the user's GY only.
Master Duel doesn't make you a better player, but it's not because of the automation, it makes you a worse player because the banlist is so fricking bad, and deck building fricking sucks because of Maxx C. There's almost no skill expression in deck building except how hard you play around Maxx C. You can make so many more decks work in TCG and be at least playable if not rogue. Any attempt at creativity is slaughtered by Maxx C and you end up with a meta like OCG where a barely viable deck like R-ACE is somehow the top of the meta only because it plays around roach by setting 4 backrow straight from the deck and not special summoning a lot. It's fricking stupid.
I think the worst thing though is MD not having a side deck makes you extremely bad at side decking after a while. You're no longer thinking about how siding effects your card ratios in your main deck and what best to side in certain matchups. And worst of all you build your main deck to kind of sort of go first sometimes or go second sometimes except for when you draw the exact opposite types of cards in each situation. The amount of people that play Evenly in MD is fricking insane for how god damn bad that card is going first. And it's insane how floodgate players do the same kind of shit with floodgates. The players are so fricking bad building these hyper-go-first decks and they get rewarded for it because some people lose the coinflip 10x in a row. TCG and even OCG have long since passed the point where decks like that really need to be considered as meta threats because you want your deck to be good going first or second no matter what in game 1. In MD, I see dumb ass decks that crumble going second all the time. Pic unrelated
>muh skillfull siding >yeah bro just let me add as many boardbroakers as humanely possible to my side deck >I'm so fricking skilled for drawing into evenly and DRNM
>It's another MDbabbys don't understand real YGO things because they never left the MD kiddy pool episode
Just because some blowout cards for siding exist doesn't take away from the fact that you build your deck very differently and play games 2 and 3 very differently because you're not going in blind and you have to account for more than just "I side these 6 non-engine out for 6 different non-engine!". You can get a lot more creative than that. In MD, you end up in the same nonsense situation as your deck building going in blind you build a board you think might work, but you're trying to one-size fits all it. Unless you're playing a deck that mills your opponent or something that gives you free fricking info game 1 and a distinct advantage. MD is totally fricked being Bo1 and no siding. The game would be way better if at least the coinflip loser got to side. Pic kind of related this time.
>w-what do you mean I have to put stuff other than combo fuel in my main deck >aaieeeeeeee make the scary back row man stop
>You can get a lot more creative than that.
nta but this is cope and you know it. 99.99999% of siding is exactly >I side these 6 non-engine out for 6 different non-engine!
this isn't fricking 2008 where you can use a transformative side to smokescreen into another deck entirely.
I'd take your dumb ass opinions even a little seriously if you actually played real YGO alongside MD, but none of you ever left the kiddy pool. Which is why you actually have this opinion.
9 months ago
Anonymous
until you post your deck I'll take it you're just an assmad troon coping about muh side deck like it's still 2008 and it's legitimately interesting. dumbass newbie.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>side deck is just a bunch of generic blowouts and a floodgate for going first
wow so much strategy
9 months ago
Anonymous
yeah no shit. that's what side decking is like for 99.99999% of decks in the tcg. this is reality.
9 months ago
Anonymous
it's funny because I always used to have massive issues siding in/out stuff and as such I used to prefer bo1 because it removed the variability out of the equation
then modern yugioh happened and siding shit became so fricking easy even a shitter like me was able to minimize the variability in siding by simply adding the playset of nibiru/lightning storm/evenly matched to all my decks. Who gives a frick about variability when I can encompass all decks from stunshit to combo crap with an evenly drop?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Don't listen to a TCG player about siding. Their mentality of siding is stuffing their deck with as many win buttons as possible for the matchup. The episode with Swordsoul and token collector is a prime example of this.
Siding is supposed to better calibrate your deck for 1st and 2nd and to side out bricks versus specific strategies.
YGO is supposed to be fun, but siding in droll and 5 rainbow so you cuck SHS is not fun for either side.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Siding is supposed to better calibrate your deck for 1st and 2nd and to side out bricks versus specific strategies.
how is this incongruous with >YGO is supposed to be fun, but siding in droll and 5 rainbow so you cuck SHS is not fun for either side.
one does not contradict the other. you play the game to win. if winning means you activate 5 rainbow that's just how it is and no amount of pilpul proves otherwise.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>if winning means you activate 5 rainbow that's just how it is and no amount of pilpul proves otherwise
The game is in a bad state when you have to use situational floodgates to win, and that is the norm for the TCG now despite claims it's a "better" meta than MD or OCG.
At best, both fomats are different sides of the same coin. But the TCG is israeli and has a unwashed, sweaty playerbase. We are eating good with MD.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>and that is the norm for the TCG now despite claims it's a "better" meta than MD or OCG.
delusional as always. you don't play either the tcg or ocg. not only are you a moronic newbie, but a larper too.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Don't listen to a MD player about deck building. Their mentality of decking is stuffing their deck with as many Maxx C outs as possible for the same players also stuffing their decks with Maxx C and Maxx C outs. The episode of 90% of decks in every format and the same 9 cards is a prime example of this. >Maxx C is supposed to keep the meta decks in check for 1st and 2nd and to better make your deck as unfun as possible against every other deck except the ones that are larely or entirely ignorant because Konami wanted to ignore the card that supposed keeps the game in check >YGO is supposed to be fun, but playing Maxx C and Maxx C outs every single game so you cuck every deck in the draw phase to except stun decks and Tearlaments is not fun for either side.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The episode of 90% of decks in every format and the same 9 cards is a prime example of this.
kek
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The episode of 90% of decks in every format and the same 9 cards is a prime example of this.
This has been the case since the very beginning of YGO newbie
Stupid MDbabies doesn't know how to deckbuilding >3 pot of greed >3 graceful charity >3 forceful sentry >3 delinquent duo >3 trap dustshoot
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The episode of 90% of decks in every format and the same 9 cards is a prime example of this.
This has been the case since the very beginning of YGO newbie
9 months ago
Anonymous
No you got it wrong man: Maxx C keeps the OCG players in check!
Is thanks to the buge of balance for NA finally winning a worlds after years!
9 months ago
Anonymous
Wow that's cool, or sorry it happened, I don't really care enough to read your post, so why don't you do everyone a favor and go back to /dng/ or whatever hole you crawled from?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Holy reddit
9 months ago
Anonymous
>if you actually played real YGO alongside MD
This moron things wiping his arse with cardboard makes him a better player. KEKYou
9 months ago
Anonymous
Kotton won that match and made it to the finals so yeah he was the better player.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>plays with toilet paper and sucks paper player dick
what a colossal homosexual
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't see any of you homosexuals dominating worlds for MD. How does it feel to know that only TCG players were in serious contention for the championship for the first MD worlds? Fricking dumb ass MD players didn't even know what the frick Runick Naturia was.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>you're not an MD player if you also play TGC.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nice reading comprehension
9 months ago
Anonymous
>How does it feel to know that only TCG players were in serious contention for the championship for the first MD worlds?
Right here you distinguish between MD players who also play TGC and those who don't.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>"playing" TCG
Truly a fate worse than death. If I'm gonna play cardboard, I'm gonna play a better fricking game like Digimon, Wixoss, or Duel Masters.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're like a child at the dinner table refusing to eat healthy foods. You literally don't know any better.
>Of all the top decks It's probably the most fair and enjoyable to play against.
this is a dlink troon cope 100%.
>D-Link apologist when it's at full power and with complete access to Bystials >immediately deflects to how Lab is unfair because of one/two unsearchable floodgates
You almost got me there not gonna lie.
I don't play D Link. But any time I'm matched against D Link, the game is actually fun to play when no one has Maxx C. I don't understand how anyone can have a hard time cracking that board.
Lab just vomits Traps onto the board and removes cards from my hand before I'm even in Standby and recycles D Barrier.
>I don't get the hate D Link is getting lately.
[...]
newbie
I mean I understand the reasons people are saying just not how they actually think that way. And the b***hing only started lately. Not after Bystials came out, but only once they performed well in both world formats. As if everyone who doesn't understand how to beat the deck simultaneously felt validated that they're shit at the matchup. The deck is interesting and rewards actually knowing how to play beyond optimal combos. I like that kind of deck. Only reason I don't play it is because I don't care for Dragons and I am fickle.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>TCG that's been rarity bumped to shit and expensive as hell full of Black folk >Healthy
Deranged
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's basically sunk cost at this point. Clearly he has no one to play with. No need to give the cardboard player attention.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why do MDbabbys always deflect from the actual format to price? I don't shit on MD for their shit gem prices for pixels, lowering the gem rewards for events, or avoiding banning URs because they won't even refund you 30 fricking UR dust. No, I shit on MD because it's a fricking clown format with an eternal coinflip format.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Noooo not the coinflip! I'd much rather have to play TWO games where I lose from going second because I lost a dice roll! And two of the three games can be decided by who draws their side deck blowout cards and instantly win!
9 months ago
Anonymous
>because I lost a dice roll!
Ah yes much worse than MD where you will mysteriously lose the coinflip 10 times in a row to maintain that 50/50 W/L for maximum user engagement. I hate actually knowing that the selector was not rigged like with in person dice rolls or TCG simulator RPS where user input ensures that it is fair.
9 months ago
Anonymous
you still haven't posted your deck, tranon.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>MD
I'm no universe is Yugioh, OCG or TCG, better than Digimon, Wixoss, abd Duel Masters.
9 months ago
Anonymous
TCG format suffers from a lot of the same problems as MD albeit
9 months ago
Anonymous
As someone who plays both irl and MD I gotta say is nice MD lets you use alot of banned cards, feels different enough to play. TCG format is very ball crushing and pushes too hard for the combo frickery and floodgates while MD is a weird mix soup of things and bo1 makes the coinflip more nasty.
Both are good and you're an absolute homosexual for thinking beating a couples of Black folk at locals playing anime decks makes you a big shot.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>A Tier 1 deck beat a Rogue deck despite the pilot being an idiot
NOOOOOOOO...... REALLY?!
>You can get a lot more creative than that.
nta but this is cope and you know it. 99.99999% of siding is exactly >I side these 6 non-engine out for 6 different non-engine!
this isn't fricking 2008 where you can use a transformative side to smokescreen into another deck entirely.
[...]
[...]
I'd take your dumb ass opinions even a little seriously if you actually played real YGO alongside MD, but none of you ever left the kiddy pool. Which is why you actually have this opinion.
>muh skillfull siding >yeah bro just let me add as many boardbroakers as humanely possible to my side deck >I'm so fricking skilled for drawing into evenly and DRNM
siding used to be skillful when a single card wouldn't win you the entire game going 1st. Stuff like playing smoke-screens, adding some extra trap holes to search off Myrmeleo depending on the match-up, Enemy Controller and Puppet Plant/Electric Virus, Kaijus, etc, the side deck was extremely diverse from format to format
Now you just put in some Evenly Matched and Triple Tactics Thrust and blow the frick out of anyone going 2nd. Or the playset of Droll, DRNM and Sphere Mode. Where's the skill involved in that?
>Master Duel doesn't make you a better player >playing yugioh doesn't make you better at yugioh
objectively false and not reading the rest of your moronic essay
All negation-based handtraps that work while you already have an established board are unfair, Ash Blossom killed every single deck that only had one searcher back in the day. Spooky Dogwood and the Kuribohs are the only fair generic handtraps.
Finally made it to Diamond 1 with pure kash. When the bricks, it bricks, and it bricks damn often.
When it works, it's just so damn fun to play, though. Got to Zeus an entire lab board. That was so kash.
I love Dustons, I just played a game where I had there whole board of rikia's ect locked down for 10 or so turns while I patiently waited to draw my battlemanian and win.
>decide to play casual mode and play my shitty blue-eyes deck >everyone is playing tears, sprights or kash
Please I just want to play with my shitty pet deck
this happens in every game that ever has casual matches. it's never the place to go to play fun decks. it's always where metatrannies with fragile egos go to pubstomp to blow off steam from ranked.
Proof positive that alternatve formats don't work.
Unlimited on Dueling Book usually devolves into: >Exodia decks with x3 Pot of Greed >Zoodiac decks with x3 Pot of Greed >Tealaments with x3 Graceful Charity
Players aren't interested in an interactive game, they're looking for the dopamine high of coombo crushing someone.
>play monsters in attack mode >get fricked by Lightning Strike >play a single monster in defense mode >opponent makes an Xyz monster and wipes your board with Zeus
At least Purrely is guaranteed to get Zeus banned...
The difference is the Master Duel devs is willing to cause collateral damage to avoid hitting new cards. Thankfully, the deck won't have all its support right out of the gate.
just ban the link 1s. The biggest problem with dragons is their ability to extend from the graveyard with only one card and the fact that striker dragon and pisty not only allow you to dump the material from the field to get powerful effects like collapserpent/wyverburster or black metal but also plus you with their own seacrh/summon effects is fricking moronic.
just ban the link 1s. The biggest problem with dragons is their ability to extend from the graveyard with only one card and the fact that striker dragon and pisty not only allow you to dump the material from the field to get powerful effects like collapserpent/wyverburster or black metal but also plus you with their own seacrh/summon effects is fricking moronic.
I don't get the hate D Link is getting lately. Just because it has been performing really well doesn't mean you need to ban anything about it. Of all the top decks It's probably the most fair and enjoyable to play against. Shit like Lab despite not being the top performer needs the banlist though because the deck is extrmely unfun and unfair turboing out and recurring floodgates.
>A Tier 1 deck beat a Rogue deck despite the pilot being an idiot
NOOOOOOOO...... REALLY?!
>this is a dlink troon cope 100%
For vanilla Dragon Link, he's right though. None of their bosses destroy and the deck has little followup if you break their field.
Bystial Dragon Link is another animal entirely
>D-Link apologist when it's at full power and with complete access to Bystials >immediately deflects to how Lab is unfair because of one/two unsearchable floodgates
>nib DL >because of spheres they can summon seyfert >single seyfert gets you borrelend + savage
It isn't remotely fair in the slightest way, link 1s always lead to degenerate combo bullshit
>Of all the top decks It's probably the most fair and enjoyable to play against.
It's the same shit as Adaman >Shit like Lab despite not being the top performer needs the banlist though because the deck is extrmely unfun and unfair
lmao though I do think D barrier needs to be banned. No reason to hit lab directly though
Adamancipators are unironically weaker because they can't use Bystials, and running Bystials makes them vulnerable to Bystials
This is why recent Adamancipator builds were turboing out Pachy and Bamboo Shoot, and that's what got Block Dragon banned.
Pretty much. I feel like Dragon Link was always one of those decks that no one liked going up against but was hard enough to pilot and rare enough to see around that everyone just sorta gave it a pass.
fact: the only time side boarding is interesting is when you're playing some really wanky shit that has interesting in-archetype card that aren't generally run but can make an impact, OR when the deck you're running is so fricking bad that to sideboard enough cards to make a difference means cutting into in-engine stuff
Most TCG tubers play MD because they're trying to build up their channels and recognize MD is a huge casual magnet.
I don't know any competitive, non-tuber TCG players that play Master Duel. MD is everythng they hate.
i want to have sex with her
My favorite character is Yami Marik. Recommend me a good decklist.
runick stun featuring super poly and lava golem
Caldron of the old man burn/stun with coffin seller and nightmare wheel
hot
>HE said September pack will have Purrely
Pattern sisters, our predictions...
mfw I draw double Quick Launch
>tracer pop kick launch
>blowing your Tracer that early
Do you not want Spheres?
Of course you don't. You're playing the event like a good boy.
>evenly
>negate the evenly
>droplet
>come back from the evenly
>niberu
>COME BACK FROM THE NIBERU
>SECOND EVENLY
>EVENLY MATCHED WILL FORCE YOU TO KEEP THE NIB TOKEN OVER ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IT FOR SOME FRICKING moronic REASON YOU CAN'T BANISH A TOKEN FACE DOWN
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>moronic REASON
a pretty obvious reason actually, its your fault you are low iq low temper monkey
>you can send a token to the GY
>you can banish a token
There is not one good reason why you can't banish a token face down.
Tokens disappear if they would leave the field, but they can never be face down, that's the issue.
What happens if you have 2 tokens and get evenly matched?
Reality breaks
JAAAADDDDGGGEEEE
Solemn Judgment handtrap when? The game needs it.
stop being a force of will chud
Elder God Tier:
Yuzu
Luna
Anna
Dark Magician Girl
Ghost Girl
Yubel
Great Tier:
Tea
Aki
Aoi (non avatar)
Rin
Kotori
Mieru
Good Tier:
Mai
Serena
Ishizu
Tyler Twins
Serenity
Okay Tier:
Ruri
Rio
Miho
Shit Tier:
Alexis
Blue Angel
Rebecca
where's Anzu and Asuka?
>Miho
Isn't real
>Aoi (non avatar)
No, just no
Her plainness makes her cute, fight me
god IMAGINE
Only good for all of those rape CGs
>Yubel above Ishizu and Alexis
Do us a favor and have a nice day Jaden.
Why do you mix dub and sub names
My starting hand > your starting hand. I win the game.
And you say people can't win with boomer decks
>gold
Anon, I...
>winstreak of 4 sub diamond
oh no no no anon
Cool, but I just reached platinum
Don't listen to them, anon. Nice work
>Dark Magician player activates Eternal Soul to my backrow Lightning Storm
WHY DID HE DO THAT?!?!?!
HE KNOWS I KNOW HE SET IT
YOU FRICKING SHOWED IT TO ME
DID YOU THINK I WAS WIPING YOUR MONSTERS?!?!
He surrendered immediately.
(Tried converting it to webm with online converters into the smallest size and lowest quality, and still came out at 5.27 MB)
Anyways, I'm ending it on a high note. Started at Gold 2 and now near Plat 3.
Thanks
Pic related
It's Platinum 4, this is the first rank it's actually possible to de-rank from losing in. You're not gonna really fight intelligent people until you hit Platinum 1, and even then you've gotta hit higher Master ranks to deal with people who know their shit and aren't just being carried by a meta strategy. Like it's very easy to memorize a Spright combo then press the negate button when your opponent does anything.
Never try to find logic in the actions of YGO players
That's just what Dark Magician players do. Every time.
I see you graduated preschool and are now in kindergarten
Keep it up anon I'm rooting for you
baby needs pop correction
Whats the blue uraby next to uraby?
Trakodon
She did nothing wrong.
except colluding with spright
kotori sex
I concur
Why is Nibiru legal in this event again? It singlehandedly ends the game against nearly every dark deck.
Training for post banlist sack.
For the anon who failed to negate Evenly with Hot Red, I think this is what happened. Hot Red negates face up cards in the field, evenly effect applies as the card leaves the field, so it's not negated. If you're playing Blackwings, popping it with Shargna will destroy the card, but the effect will still apply. I think it's a similar concept.
Have you tried playing any light deck? I finished my Dark Side and went to get light and I swear to god its aids doing anything. Unless I waste my crafts on 300 different UR cards I had to play shitty Brick Eyes or some ungodly form of stall/burn. I saw a guy who tried to banish me out cycling runick spells + Fissure. He had 3 light monsters in the deck, just to try and stall for time.
Thank you once again to the anon who posted a turbo budget decklist of shitty light machines a few threads ago.
Light is easy. You just play Eldlich and roll people.
Or runick. I just got 3 scoops by summoning huginn.
If your IRL opponent makes an unbreakable board, always remember that their head is breakable!
man remember when a tuner and 1 other monster made you auto lose the game? frick halq
Strongest D-Link board
Stronger than Savage/Borrelend that's for sure.
If you are playing against Kashtira, always remember to stop at Main Phase 2 and click on the screen and run the clock to waste their time, just like they wasted yours!
They can't have fun at your expense when you're having fun on theirs!
lets all love aluber
As always
Kashtira Runick
Asstira Poopdick
Presenting: the fair Maxx “C”
But you just chain it to a summon and always get to draw 1.
moron
I think my friends think I'm being insufferable because I won't stop talking about YGO
i never talk about anything that im interested in unless someone askes me about it and even then i try to hide my power level
Why are they doing that?
They're fyoosing
>still up over 40 mins later
guess janny really did lose
Everyone point and laugh
gaylord
*siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip*
>negate Unicorn's search
>normal summon Ash into Baronne
FRICK THIS ARCHETYPE
FREE HER
Merrli will be back at 3 before Ib
>lightsissies genuinely thought their handtraps would carry them
Everyone should have been on runick stun and run protection for sack like cosmic cyclone.
The good light decks are more expensive, while the dark decks are far more accessible.
Drytron basically completely walked all over this event, with it's ability to negate the entire hand, and even if they drew the out, they still need to deal with the Heralds in hand especially when restocked by Hip Hoshiningen recycling EVA.
>handtraps
>exosisters
>runicks
>still losing
HOW?
Light decks are very expensive
Light decks are expensive and the only cheap one, Eldlich, requires a few braincells to play without floodgates.
Much fewer people built Exosisters (and Runicks) while Dark has had meta placement throughout almost the entire lifetime of Master Duel so someone is bound to have one deck they can play (even if they have to play unbelievably gimped builds like Despia Darklords it's something) and most people probably won't bother getting both titles
Won almost all my duels with my trusted Utopic Exosister Rank 4 spam deck
Dark had better superpoly targets
>spend a trillion UR dust making a LIGHT Deck
>or buy a ready to use Blackwing Deck for 1500 gems
>wtf why is Dark winning
exosister has a bajillion URs and is otherwise a mediocre deck come without tear everywhere. runick also has a bajillion URs and has to be played with something else for your games to not last a bazillion years. meanwhile, lab is common and popular. you can slot in shit like spiders and labrynth setup to fill up the gaps made by the hits you took this event. you can play dlink without spheres. you can play branded tear in some capacity. you can play branded without tear. DM is basically untouched and is immensely popular. you're really only looking at utopia, drytron, and photon galaxy as off-meta light options, but most metatrannies dusted drytron so it's uncommon and the utopia stuff uses tons of non-light onomat cards for extention. even common light decks like blueyes still care about DARKs like linkuriboh, draglubion, levi, dictator, etc.
go back to sucking dicks on reddit
Yeah bro Effect Veiler was really gonna win games with all the bullshit Dark had this event.
>up for 1 hour
None of the jannies can pass a Konami judge exam so they're not allowed to moderate this thread.
why would anybody report prime hebe pussy
>Win and you'll gain a rank
>Brick
deck building issue
I special summon your dick in my ass.
>opponent and I bricking hard for 9 turns straight
He dropped The Flute of Summoning Dragon at the end of turn 9 lmao
He was also playing a semi-boomer deck
learn to make webms
nta, but I could never make them small enough in file size. Feels like something obvious I'm missing.
Yeah it is a hurtle to get around I wish Ganker would up the size to 6 mb like on /wsg/
Tearlaments who? Runicks who?
Bro just Zap them with the Zapper.
(Tagging (You) if you wanna make a webm out of this )
What's the budget build for lab? I got all the lab cards and staples like Maxx C, Ash, and Imperm but don't have other things that people are throwing in like Kash and Bystial
2 Fenrir 1 Magnamhut is just 3 URs, but if the Fenrirs break the bank just replace it with 2 normal traps or something.
You can play it without Kashtira and Bystial cards those are just good for countering the current meta. Tears are going to be a lot weaker come next month so you might not really need them. After that you can make due with R/SR traps like Ice Dragon's Prison, Compulse, Torrential Tribute, Dogmatika Punishment, Ichiroku's Ledgerbook, etc. Honestly if you have all the Lab cards then that's 95% of the way to a "full power" build you're really only missing maybe some ED cards to pitch off Dogmatika Punishment.
I have never hated Evenly Matched more than ever playing this event
you're welcome
It's a gross fricking card. Either it should have sent to the graveyard or it should only activate during the end phase
>it's not even semi'd
>you can get evenly matched multiple times in a game even if you come back from one
>We really went from left to right (pic related)
Nice game design Komoney
left is fun and a brainlet filter
It really is baffling how the Kash cards made it though any level of design. Who at Konami came up with a combo archetype focused around zone locking, milling, and Macro Cosmos? And more importantly how the frick did someone ELSE okay it?
>heheh...dis wirr serr mirrions of cawrds!
Probably their thoughts when designing
But the OCG killed Kash before it could ever be the best deck for them, the list that kneecapped Tear was also the list that kneecapped Kash. Plus their rarity system doesn't really produce crazy chase cards like how Fenrir coste $70 in the TCG due to rarity bumping.
>zone locking, milling, banishing face down, ed rips, handrips, macro cosmos also 0 negates
Faustian honest kino.
Billions must be banished
And their fields blocked
was it really necessary for the attach effect to be once per chain?
HA! welcome to nu yugioh lore archetypes
Kinda yeah, non-OPC attaching would be broken
I mean that it should be OPT. That would even make sense with the 3 material requirement, if you summoned Arise with 1 monster on your turn, attached on your turn, attached on the opponents, now the banish is live. As opposed to now when he just activates constantly sucking up everything.
So you can cum buckets when Konami prints a good banish floating archetype and you get to trigger 3 of their effects every turn
>summon using 1 Kashtira monster
Holy shit what a busted card.
we needed this, sir! please do not redeem the kaiju!!
I enjoyed Tear meta while it lasted and I'm already dreading Kashtira zone-lock shenanigans. Maybe part of that was the simulator doing the heavy lifting as far as resolving huge chains and keeping track of effects, but still. I did hear that Tear 0 was a nightmare IRL just due to time rules, I can see that being extremely annoying.
Now that Tear meta is cycling out, I expect dozens of posts saying how much they missed it. Tear mirrors are unironically FUN.
I hope the game eventually reaches the level of power creep where Merrli can come off the banlist.
It's not even mirrors, I've never crafted Tear but the matches against them have been much more fun than any of the homosexuals on stun a couple months ago or how fricking cancerous Kash already is.
That said I will absolutely not miss Tear turning any monsters into Dharc into Sprind into Merrli.
Here's the thing, is there some fun to be had in Tear mirrors? Yeah. Do you get tired of Tears after several months? Yes.
I legit enjoyed playing Tear for a while, but there are only so many times I can see agido milling kelbek and then waiting for the chain to resolve.
Kash zone lock is preferable that way.
I don't agree. I'm still having fun with Tear mirrors.
I definitely get being tired of Tear but Kashtira taking over the metagame isn't gonna be much better. If they're allowed to keep the 9-zone lock combos the game becomes open the Kaiju/Golem/Sphere Mode or instantly lose. If that genuinely lasts more than a month I'm gonna quit the game. Variety is good but I'd rather have it come from archetypes that actually let me play the game.
>tear mirrors are fun!
Joseph, pls go
>Yugioh has fallen. The metagame has collapsed. Millions must be banished. Mills must be banned. Total Tearlament Death. Total Waifu Death.
i doubt this place can make a better job at designing new archetypes that both: incentivize buying new product and doesn't force one dominant deck each format
Eldlich and Floo will RISE again! j-just you wait!
Would Yugi's magical top-decking powers also work in Master Duel?
Ok now do this for Endymion
Not that Endymion, the other one
Just an FYI, since you're gonna tackle it, pendulum monsters are likely double-sided cards.
One side is an enchantment, and the other a creature.
Since we're posting these I'll share the ones I've made too.
They both need a rework btw, I'm just lazy.
>Tap it
don't mind if I do
Yeah, that need a lot of reworks. Lovely, and lady's effect are just wrong.
Would these be broken in modern MTG?
Also wouldn't Kalaeido be closerr to a 7/7 or 8/8 rather than a 4/4?
7/7 is pretty nuts in MtG. And yeah, it needs a rework.
That's equivalent to like a 4000/4000 in Yu-Gi-Oh.
iirc MTG has 20 life points, Kalaiedo 3000 Attack is 37% of 8000. So the equivalent in MTG would be Lord of the Pit stats.
I'm not going to look too hard into it but Merrli in particular would be cracked in a reanimator-like deck. You only need one target unlike the others who need 2-3.
>load up on 7-8 drops
>t1 faithless loothing pitching merrli and atraxa
>merrli triggers
>just bring out another atraxa
>drown in card advantage
Heartbeat would probably be good, there'd probably be some ramp into kitkallos into omniscience deck
Most Yugioh cards would be insane in Magic even if you gave them appropriate costs just because Yugioh is much more consistent and powerful than MtG. Most decks have numerous ways to search archetype specific spells and traps but with magic a lot of their search spells (called Tutors) don't even add cards to the hand, they just add to the top of your deck so you draw it next turn. Also, the idea of an extra deck is insane. It's basically a 15-card hand of guys you can summon whenever you meet some basic requirements, some of which are as little as "Control 2 monsters" or "Activate a specific spell card". There are entire Magic formats that hinge their gameplans on having essentially a 1-card extra deck.
I remember hearing about a Magic card that was emergency banned because it was essentially Fairy Tale Snow but without the book of moon effect. So just a big guy that you could summon from your graveyard constantly. They would summon that guy then beat you to death with it. That's the power level you're dealing with. So yeah, the Tearlament ability to summon from deck any guy of a combined mana cost would be moronic good. You could fill the grave with high-cost monsters, shuffle them back, and summon a card that actually does something as early as turn 1.
Didn't MTG add a keyword that worked kind of like the ED and have to basically remove the mechanic from the game? I think it was companion?
What I heard about it reminded me of what happens when they make skills in Duel Links. Giving a deck an always accessible tool that doesn't require drawing causes something like how giving Galaxy a skill to always foolish GEPD turned it into a deck full of just ways to summon back the GEPD, for example.
Exiling should be an alternative cost.
This is actually really sleek. It's over-costed though. The banish effect should be useable to reduce the mana cost.
I'd say 2WWBB
Ability reads: you can exile a white and black creature from your graveyard to reduce the summoning cost by 2.
And the nuke effect should be WB only. Not to 2W2B.
As you have it now, it wouldn't see play even in current standard. It's too weak. Also, if should have Flying and be 5/4 methinks.
why is runick so satisfying this event
>no ash
That is.
runick will always be good unless they limit/ban/retrain fountain
I feel like the clock is ticking. Konami is extra harsh to any archtype that dares to stay relevant despite Konami's mandate.
>play a card
>turn stolen
How is this fair!?
It's dogshit
This is just a gimmicky ass ftk card. Not mention it obviously reset all opt.
What's your secret tech that you think is underrated/undiscovered that you love using. Spill the beans anons. Let's hear it
>go second
>open evenly
>win
LotHP+Imperial Iron Wall
You put in one copy of PKRUM in Kash when Ariseheart is released
You force your opponent to have the out in the form of a Kaiju or you're Kali Yuga locking them
Shit forgot to answer this. My secret tech is that Mikanko will actually be pretty good in Master Duel because it'll be a competent going-second archetype that you can't side for or prepare for in game 2. In this, they're similar to Floo, which in a Bo3 scenario are easy to prepare for/side for in games 2 and 3, but master duel only has the first game.
I get the feeling they're gonna be surprisingly good as well. People are gonna sleep on the next pack cause KASHTIRA. But if Numeron has proven anything it's that dedicated going second decks can be extremely good in a bo1 format of they can easily get to their wincon with extreme consistency.
i strongly doubt i'm the first to think of it, but generaider handrip ft. dark law
I win the coin toss more often when my dick is hard. I like to think it's some magnet shit.
mistaken accusation
So many decks bend so hard against pic related
Why are people just sticking Lab and Numeron into fricking everything?
Event or just in general?
Not the event.
Because this playerbase is brainless and also extremely bitter. But the format also really fricking sucks, too.
burgadigle boosh
gubish beb nooooooom
Made a new account, which deck(s) should I make first? I'm already planning on making Flower Cardian FTK because it's incredibly cheap cost-wise
It is shit so no.
>opponent beats you badly
>copy their deck
>repeat
Guaranteed Master rank in no time
>play event
>normal summon pixies special summon jet
>make verte and dpe
wow, so original darkie
Konami can suck a dick, infernity did nothing wrong and should come back. Handless combo is cool as frick.
>mill opponent's Albaz
>special summon it thinking it's a good play because he can't use it as fusion material
>lose entire board to contact fusion because Konami loves jacking off to fusing opponent's monsters
It was bullshit back then with Chimeratech Fortress and it's still bullshit today.
Frick you, dragons have had it too good for too long. You deserve Alba Lenatus.
No monster type deserves to lose their board to a mass contact fusion. Not even basedberse.
>lower case söy is filtered again
For what purpose? Why do the mods hate Ganker so much?
>again
It never went away. Now if only they'd censor troony forever
>onions censored
the word f@m was censored for a while is it still? senpai
Which one was onions again?
KEK
onions
baka
desu
senpai
cumbrain
cumbrain bros were back
So Kit's death leads to WW3 and Merrli's to a dystopia?
And Total Tearlament (and also every DBP Waifu) Death leads to utopia and salvation
This game's UI is really shit when your opponent searches for something and you miss it.
Bottom right
There is a battle log right there, it even show which column card got activated
That fricking sucked.
It's why I told you to make it double-faced.
You can see some examples here with Lulu and Reihno
I agree. They're the first ones I made, abd before I got a chance to properly play the archetype in MD.
>konami makes spright cards able to shit themselves out from any level/rank/link 2
>the solution is to ban merrli
Konami tier decision making.
This is unironically a vastly superior choice to banning Elf, yes.
have a nice day elfBlack person
see
Elf fricking deserves it too.
>Level 2, Rank 2 and Link-2 being the same thing but on a generic card
>Offers protection
>Has a quick revive
Toad died for this homosexual's sins
Toad died because of Swap Frog
Toad ban was based. Barrone and Savage next please.
There really was no good reason that Elf/Sprind could be made with link-2s
Frick off
>Frick off
Cope Tearshitter. I love how you morons actually convinced yourselves that they would never ever seriously hit your stupidly OP deck despite seeing both the TCG and the OCG attempt to murder it multiple times.
Merrli IRL ban coming soon btw
The TCG completely succeeded in murdering it because they don't have stupid shit like Chaos Ruler legal.
>merrli cannot get a break.
I don't think there are many (good) decks that can abuse elf beside spright.
Watching tear with the new banlist is kinda depressing even as a tear hater. Grapha pass? Baronne pass? Even swordsoul can make a better board than that.
Unchained mate WHEN?!
Kotori SEX
I'm gonna miss the tear vs shaddoll matchup. I feel a weird sort of kinship since the banlist nuked both of our decks. On the bight side, shaddoll enjoyers have revolution synchron and consecrated light coming soon.
I really don't understand why Konami doesn't do DMG or Lab mates. Money on the table. Laundry is adorable though so I don't even know if I'd use them over her
Easier to make non human mates, and they shot themselves in the foot by making accessories very cheap/not cost real money so there's no incentive to make mates that sell.
>I really don't understand why Konami doesn't do DMG or Lab mates
DMG is boring boomer shit. Hope they never make a mate for it
>Lab
Only if it's one of the furniture pieces please. Human mates are cringe
Whoa anon calm down, you're bragging too much about being gay.
Cringe post.
>t. I suck penis for a living
You will NEVER get your shitty washed up waifu as a mate
I like the furniture mate idea, but I think the best Lab mate would be Absolute King Back Jack. Sure he's not called a Lab card, but he's been in Lab decklists.
I want them to do a mate of the Wicked Avatar or Sphere Mode and it's just a ball that rolls around
I would use it.
t. uses Book of Moon
Lab dunno, DMG probably coming in the 2nd anniversary.
>on the opposite side of the pic
Anyone know what the Pokemon TCG sim is like? I'm not quitting MD, just want to know if it's worth a shot at least. I have a few friends into it.
I like it. It's extremely f2p. After a few weeks, I had every meta-relevant deck and the latest set nearly completed.
It also doesn't demand much of your time.
People here have said it's buggy, as in it has had crashes consistently happen when certain cards are played or card effects not working as they normally should. Still could give it a try, but just keep in mind that it's not perfect.
YGO is basically the only big card game with decent options for online sims. MD's only real drawback is being 6 months behind the TCG meanwhile Pokemon TCG live is unplayable+ugly and MTGA has horrible monetization.
I hate Branded and Branded players. Ban Branded Fusion already.
dark attribute lives do not matter
Branded in general is a very poorly designed archetype. Branded fusion is part of the problem in that every Branded game is actually a mini-game where the branded player has to search ways to resolve that one spell each turn, but even without that, Mirrorjade is one of the most dishonestly worded cards in the game, and the fact that the branded playstyle seem to deliberately lean towards 'summon floodgate monster to your opponent's field' is just the worst.
It sucks because the lore is decently fun, some of the monsters are really cool, and Cartessia has the big breasts. Branded should be fun.
>Mirrorjade is one of the most dishonestly worded cards in the game
explain
Banish not being HOPT + if you fuse Mirrorjade and bring him back he can get around not being able to attack the next turn (and banish again), I assume
I assume he means because it sends for cost, is a soft once-per-every-other-turn that plusses you, and pops the field with a lingering effect if you remove it.
Also, even if you tribute it with a kaiju, it still activates.
your unicorn?
>plus
>not really opt
>doing anything but send back means you need a stupid good follow up or otk because lol board nuke.
Shit is like 3 different boss monsters.
>it does three things so it’s le op
Yeah so does Kitkallos and she’s not banned. This is just what a good card is in 2023 looks like now.
Kitkallos is purely a combo piece. Despite 2300 Attack she isn't a boss by any means.
Mirrorjade effectively having 3 powerful effects and the highest stats among Albaz fusions and multiple recursion options (which it can search itself) is the biggest part of Branded Fusion being so broken.
If you banned Mirrorjade, Branded isn't even tiered anymore until Chimeras. Rindbrumm is outed by Bystials.
>If you remove the payoff, this deck is bad!
wow, scathing, interesting commentary on the meta by Ganker's most skilled duelist
>and the fact that the branded playstyle seem to deliberately lean towards 'summon floodgate monster to your opponent's field' is just the worst.
You guys are so full of shit
>the fact that the branded playstyle seem to deliberately lean towards 'summon floodgate monster to your opponent's field'
It really doesn't. The whole reason they have 2 cards that do that is to give yourself an Albaz and the opponent another monster to fuse with him. The puppet interaction is 100% just Konami being stupid and shortsighted.
If Lab were to get a mate it should be Knight-san.
I like that idea
Drident
my mother wife
put her to 2 already
>no one
>absolute no one
>not even a soul
>ygo player when purrely
A CAR IS FINE TOO OwO
>A CAR IS FINE TOO OwO
Everyone already knows yugioh players are lonely virgins.
>A CAR IS FINE TOO
But enough about Formula Athletes
Purrely will get a mate before all your shit decks. Cope and seethe
Plunder already has an animation + avatar + sleeves so I can't really ask for more and I'd love a Purrely mate just because I like my mates to be pets and so far the only really good one is Imduk (Unchained mate when)
Cars are for dragons
>no ice barrier or morphtronic mate
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
mate when?
>duel start
>it runs off the field and never comes back
sovl
Why did they think duel scouters was a good idea? It makes every character look moronic
AR is unironically where Yugioh should be headed.
Nah, holograms were infinitely better, it's amazing how technology regressed without Kaiba to tardwrangle everyone around.
I think he means irl.
Car archetype when?
I’ll take what is Vehicroids for $200, Alex?
Contra archetype when?
>GACHA.... LE BAD!!!
>EXCEPT WHEN A PROPERTY FROM MY CHILDHOOD DOES IT THEN ITS LE GOOOOOOD
>OMG DOES THAT BANNER HAVE A BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON ON IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM DOING INSANE HELP ME BLACK MAGICIAN
Master Duel gets a pass because of how F2P friendly it is. No one remotely smart spends real money on it though because of how fricking moronic the gem prices are.
Literally every modern gacha game starts out f2p friendly dumb ass if they front loaded the first 10 hours with only gambling people wouldn't have a chance to get addicted and then excuse their addiction by saying it's f2p friendly
>Literally every modern gacha game starts out f2p friendly
I mean it's been more than a year at this point and while the UR tax has gotten heavier, it's still piss easy to make whatever deck you want if you ration your gems wisely.
Yugioh, and Master Duel, has a lot of issues but cost isn't one of them.
Not him but while it's easy to keep up for someone who's been playing since launch it sucks for newbies because the secret pack system is ass. They've added like 4 since the game launched and there are tons of URs now locked behind crafting on top of the staples a newbie already needs to craft.
The funny thing is that that's basically how getting into physical Yu-Gi-Oh is more or less both in and out of Japan.
You still have to put in the time investment with all the dailies, events and ranked grind. It's really not that much different from other gacha games.
you haven't played any other gacha if you think the investment is similar at fricking all. Shit like Genshin and Epic Seven have fricking farming guides and sell bots to remove the tediousness from farming resources every single day.
In here you can just log-in, grab your live duel + daily log-in bonus, then leave. Then every third day you can complete your dailies.
It literally is though. It takes me 5 minutes to do dailies in other games and I'm done.
sad, sad liar
>Literally every modern gacha game starts out f2p
I wish Echoes of Mana did 🙁
Goddamn you SE
The moment MD becomes impossible to f2p like Arena is the moment I drop it and switch to Omega, and Digimon on TTS.
Sorry, can't relate. Haven't spend a dime btw. Just be smart with your resource
(You)
I’m cumming to the thoughts of Deluxe Purrely Mate that starts as Purrely on your first turn, at the start of your second turn it turns into Epurrely happiness and then on your third turn it turns into Expurrely Happiness.
I'm feeling spicy, what decks would have even the slightest synergy with a Winged Dragon of Ra """engine""""
Not video games. Frick off.
Does the lab ED matter at all or is it just a pile to get banished for pots? I have a psychic end punisher so I'm sure like 2% of games it'll be relevant to welcome into summoning an ash or some shit and I'm sure dharc, mukracker, and knightmare phoenix come up, but other than that?
The only Lab ED monsters that may matter
>Punishment target if you play it
>Chaos Angel
>Dharc
>Unicorn
>Muckraker
Also Goddess. She's a fiend, and an easy to summon Kaiju in a deck that can special summon like crazy.
If you're willing to whale for the 3 of each then yeah it can. Otherwise don't worry about it too much.
Mukracker, Knightmares, and Chaos Angel are the only things the deck really summons, but good ED targets are priorities for things like Dogmatika Punishment, one of the best normal traps ever printed. Sending N'tss turns it into 2 pops, sending Garura gives you a draw, sending Bucephalis II means you can send anything else you want. Outside of that it can all be pot fodder.
This is true but they are releasing new secret packs at a decent rate now. Hopefully they'll keep it up and we'll have packs for all the archetypes released since the game came out. It feels weird that there's no way to roll for Bystials, Runick, Spright, Exosisters, etc, but we did get Swordsoul, PUNK, Adventure, and Labrynth so it's definitely being worked on.
If you're carrying Extravagance, Chaos Angel and Mucracker are mandatory 3-ofs. If you're carrying Dogmatika Punishment, add 3 N'tss to that list and some other GY effect cards like Garura, Bucephalus, Wind Pegasus and Mereologic Aggregator. Fill the rest with utility, myself I have Baronne because I carry Fenrir, and Goddess because you never want to go out of home without her in your ED.
Canon couple
Laundry
Purrely
so uh, how many of the YGO archetype lores are secretly spooky?
>traptrix eat people
>melffys are actually humans turned into animals who slept in the melffy forest
>madolches are actually dolls and the chateau is just imaginary
>dream mirror king traps adults in nightmares where they wander forever
>melffys are actually humans turned into animals who slept in the melffy forest
Gogigagagagigozubabadododo is secretly gay for Marauding Captain
>secretly
Also more Gagagio lore when
Memory of a Lover
as soon as the reptile archetype gets good support
Gagagigo is only for Eria.
She's his mommy
Boys belong to their mommies
gawd DAYUM!
One of these is not like the other.
Also the Mikanko lore.
https://ygorganization.com/vbex3-number-7-mikanko/
Also Water Enchantress really is evil. You just don't get to see it because Konami killed off the Adventurer archetype.
The Gunkan Suships are too large to eat.
Verre never knew her mother :'(
So uh, did they install Aruru with a functional reproductive system?
>blue eyes
>every dragon is actually kaiba's past life's waifu
YOU KNOW TOO MUCH TIME TO DIE
>Kashtira are like sandwiches
https://translate.google.com/?sl=ar&tl=en&text=%D9%83%D8%B4%D8%B7%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A9%D9%92&op=translate
I kashtira-locked my opponent on turn 4. He did not scoop so I figured he had kaijus/sphere/golem. Ended up draw/pass for 29 more turns until he decked himself out and he never had any out. What drives a person to not concede when they know they cannot win and waste their time like that?
have a nice day
>29 turns
Why.
thats what im wondering too. I just wanted to see what hed do once he couldnt play the game anymore so I didnt attack his life points to 0 and was also just passing until he decked out. wanted to see what hed do / why he didnt just quit. was funny bonking him with maxx c tho
Whenever you see something like , always remember to do this
You wouldn't
You have no idea what I would
I already have
why did girsu build a sex bot of his sister
Galea EROTIC
So I'm starting to get bored I now log in do dailies and log out we need another mode besides ranked and events
>I now log in do dailies and log out
You're playing correctly
Unchained mate when
Deck recipes to do dailies efficiently, without the need to win?
just play the game moron
That's already in included in what I asked for, moron
Why do so many TCG players hate Maxx "C" while acknowledging that more than 5 disruptions is an FTK?
Whoops lol
can't run from your past anon
Oh well.
X? Is that some kind of porn site?
Only the most lewd porn around.
Is this the twitter gay?
>smtcuck
lolgay
>Is this the twitter gay?
I don't know what that means. I'm just some guy that was talking about Persona 5 with someone and trying to help with deck lists
Zoom zoom
Thanks babe
You can probably frick with the pot ratios. Also you don't need Drident there so you can ignore that UR. It's only really for popping Lucky Punch on your own turn but if you don't already have it lying around then it's worthless.
Actually I think I faced someone like that
He committed seppuku with Giant Kozaky in the end
what kind of fanfiction you reading anon?
>gaylord plays a lockdown deck
>can't handle actually winning with a lockdown
Zozzle
Free this child. She did not deserve it.
J A I L
Laundry fricking won in the end.
Laundry mill 3 is supposed to represent her dropping the clothes she was carrying
baka dragon is USELESS
I know he's not great in general but locking darkies down with this is fun
loose night loose dragon
Tear trannies enjoying their last games i see.
>Thundra's at tier 3
bros my petdeck....
It isn't even tier 3, bystials in basically anything else is stronger.
Dragon Link has a ton of card overlap yet it's the best deck while Thundra is barely playable.
lightCHADs this event is so easy, why are darkies so bad?
How do people play more than five games in a row without either bricking or going second without a hand that can't break the opponent's board?
>play deck that can't play through Nibiru
>auto-lose if they have it
>play deck that either consistently plays through Nibiru or everything floats off it
>card does nothing
I hate this card so much. I don't even combo that hard. My BnB is only 5 summons.
Evenly Matched is a worse card than Maxx C, change my mind
Well yeah, Maxx C is the best card in the game. There's nothing better than having infinite Pot of Greeds on your opponent's turn.
Stop making boards without a spell/trap negate.
Why should we be forced to spam negates? Why can't we have fun interactions instead?
Why not both?
I actually think Called By the Grave is the most unhealthy card, even more than Maxx C. And not because it stops Maxx C, it just makes going first too fricking good especially on top of Maxx C. Maxx C is the second most unhealthy card.
On the other hand it's really the only way to deal with handtraps
I think every deck should have an in-archetype handtrap that also works as their starter or something. I think that would be a good push-and-pull
Too bad they'll never do that since everyone hated tearlaments
The actual problem with Tearlaments is that no other deck was as good as them. If every deck was at Tear level power YGO would be godlike
R-ace has one, though. Labrynth too. I think we'll be seeing more of that stuff in the future.
That's the problem though, you shouldn't be dealing with handtraps, you should be taking losses to them that matter instead of getting to play for free and overextend comfortably and then set a fricking card that just rapes GY monster effects and lingers for two turns. And no just because shit like Shifter and Maxx C exists doesn't justify Called By, all of these things should be fricking banned for being a cancer to the game.
>it just makes going first too fricking good
Gamma does the same thing as is an even bigger payoff, since it makes an invulnerable Baronne. or results in a handrip.
TCG tops are even running Gamma at 1 just to autowin if the opponent tries to Droll them. Going first is broken.
nobody is fricking running gamma except meme shs decks and dragon link decks that need a normal monster for the new red eyes card anyway
Branded Chimera is running Gamma becuse they can discard driver for Guardian Chimera or Branded Opening
The issue with Evenly is it doesn't nuke the Graveyard, and the Graveyard is the second hand. So even if you say wipe the Spright board, they can OTK you the next turn with Elf into Jet into Gamma Burst because they don't need to resolve Beaver into Angler a second time, all their necessary searchers are in the Graveyard.
Maxx "C" makes sure that you keep pace with every special summon so it is stronger.
I have literally never lost a game when I resolved evenly against spright unless they also had maxx c
But evenly is still a blowout against nonT1 decks. It's not fair to evaluate a card based on it's natural counter otherwise Maxx C is bad because floos "normal summon" 5 times a turn instead of special summon.
>nonT1 decks
Such as?
Going back to MR4 and toss, Thundra is the only deck that loses to Evenly.
With MR5 only Eldlich lost to Evenly. Drytroon, Dilator, Based, Swordsoul, Branded don't lose to it.
Tears, Kash and Bystial are you current Tier 1 and they actually lose harder to evenly than non meta.
Fricking grind ass games, man. Mill deck with Baronne + Abyss turbo, into Bagoosk Zeus recovery, into Barrone Darc recovery once I out that too. Had to win the game with Triple Tactics.
Maxx C is not the problem, Generics and Hand Traps are. Errata every end-board extra deck monster to require a material of their archetype and the negation hand-traps to be a new card type (monster/trap), then slap MR6 "you can only use one hand trap per duel". Solitaire is pretty much over.
Hand traps aren't the problem either, it's more that anything that can be abused going first gets subsumed into extreme go-first decks. Gamma, Tactics, and Ash were designed to help going second interact with the turn 1 player, but instead they're much stronger for the turn 1 player.
Nobody complains about Imperm, and it's a stronger card going second than first. Sure, you can set it and get a column negate, but it also becomes vulnerable to field destruction. There are stronger traps if you want to set something.
gamma and maxx c are probably the worst of the bunch.
>oh you tried to ash my rota/e-tele?
>get fricked. I get a free chaos ruler/omega/draco berserker/etc.
>oh you opened nothing to interrupt my combo going second?
>well good luck playing through maxx c to boot
Maxx is still better for the going second player because opening it is a brick. Any deck that can still full combo with 1-2 dead cards in hand is the problem, not the handtrap.
1 card combos is the cancer killing the game, and virtually every new deck has at least one, if not two.
Hand traps are a bit of a problem, yes. Assume a situation someone Maxx C you as you break their board, there is no negation that will be drawn by it only combo pieces or traps/normal spells (limit 1 hand-trap per duel). All you'll do it's give him fuel that could reconstruct a board (assuming a top tier deck), if you can destroy it. That's fine enough, because if you could destroy it, then you'll likely still have resources for his turn to interact and most likely won't die turn 3. After that it's a matter if your board can be reconstructed too.
That's a perfectly fine game state, in my opinion. The game is still funneled to your first turns, but now you get to play the game, assuming your deck can start through the board.
And errata-ing the end-board generic monsters would help here. We can even be more "fair" than archetype and do types. No Baronne if you don't have a plant material, no I:P if you don't have Cyberse, no Verte without a plant, etc. In general end-boards would likely have a lot less negates for you to play through in a situation like this.
>All you'll do it's give him fuel that could reconstruct a board
Before Bystials I had no issue with Dragon Link dropping Maxx "C". Dragon Link has to invest 8, 9 cards into their endboard so anything they can make after that is weaker. The worst thing they could draw into was Ash.
Same goes for Marincess or Salads. Any deck that has to run multiple extenders in the Extra, to end on a boss, has little main deck muscle even if they can still combo after Maxx "C".
Bystials changed the game in the bad way, they caused the extinction of Accesscode Talker and most OTK decks in general.
>free body for the cost of banishing a single light or dark monster in either grave. Powerful extenders going first
>grave hate handtraps that can't be Ashed or Called by'd. Quick effect is on when Gamma is off.
>stops OTKs because you can summon them in defense mode during combat
>STILL HAVE ADDITIONAL EFFECTS ON TOP OF ALL THIS BULLSHIT
It amazes me how all four lvl 6 Bystials haven't been banned yet.
They'd probably have to be gutted if the goal is to break the bullshit solitaire gameplay, yeah. Under the wishful-thinking rules I said above, I guess you make them hand traps and only one of them (maxx c, ash, any of the bystials) can have their hand effect used per duel; remove the quick-effect; or make so it's the user's GY only.
OCGkeks are getting too wienery anyone drew Maxx c to keep them in check?
Fellow TCG enjoyers. Do you feel like Master Duel makes you better at the physical game or is it hard to adjust back to not having the automation?
I am absolutely certain it makes me worse at the physical game
it's excellent practice to learn decks but will make you miss shit like end phase triggers if you don't get your paper practice
Master Duel doesn't make you a better player, but it's not because of the automation, it makes you a worse player because the banlist is so fricking bad, and deck building fricking sucks because of Maxx C. There's almost no skill expression in deck building except how hard you play around Maxx C. You can make so many more decks work in TCG and be at least playable if not rogue. Any attempt at creativity is slaughtered by Maxx C and you end up with a meta like OCG where a barely viable deck like R-ACE is somehow the top of the meta only because it plays around roach by setting 4 backrow straight from the deck and not special summoning a lot. It's fricking stupid.
I think the worst thing though is MD not having a side deck makes you extremely bad at side decking after a while. You're no longer thinking about how siding effects your card ratios in your main deck and what best to side in certain matchups. And worst of all you build your main deck to kind of sort of go first sometimes or go second sometimes except for when you draw the exact opposite types of cards in each situation. The amount of people that play Evenly in MD is fricking insane for how god damn bad that card is going first. And it's insane how floodgate players do the same kind of shit with floodgates. The players are so fricking bad building these hyper-go-first decks and they get rewarded for it because some people lose the coinflip 10x in a row. TCG and even OCG have long since passed the point where decks like that really need to be considered as meta threats because you want your deck to be good going first or second no matter what in game 1. In MD, I see dumb ass decks that crumble going second all the time. Pic unrelated
>implying any format where you can side deck cope shit to make up for being shit at building decks is more than a meme
>It's another MDbabbys don't understand real YGO things because they never left the MD kiddy pool episode
Just because some blowout cards for siding exist doesn't take away from the fact that you build your deck very differently and play games 2 and 3 very differently because you're not going in blind and you have to account for more than just "I side these 6 non-engine out for 6 different non-engine!". You can get a lot more creative than that. In MD, you end up in the same nonsense situation as your deck building going in blind you build a board you think might work, but you're trying to one-size fits all it. Unless you're playing a deck that mills your opponent or something that gives you free fricking info game 1 and a distinct advantage. MD is totally fricked being Bo1 and no siding. The game would be way better if at least the coinflip loser got to side. Pic kind of related this time.
cope
I'd take your dumb ass opinions even a little seriously if you actually played real YGO alongside MD, but none of you ever left the kiddy pool. Which is why you actually have this opinion.
until you post your deck I'll take it you're just an assmad troon coping about muh side deck like it's still 2008 and it's legitimately interesting. dumbass newbie.
>side deck is just a bunch of generic blowouts and a floodgate for going first
wow so much strategy
yeah no shit. that's what side decking is like for 99.99999% of decks in the tcg. this is reality.
it's funny because I always used to have massive issues siding in/out stuff and as such I used to prefer bo1 because it removed the variability out of the equation
then modern yugioh happened and siding shit became so fricking easy even a shitter like me was able to minimize the variability in siding by simply adding the playset of nibiru/lightning storm/evenly matched to all my decks. Who gives a frick about variability when I can encompass all decks from stunshit to combo crap with an evenly drop?
Don't listen to a TCG player about siding. Their mentality of siding is stuffing their deck with as many win buttons as possible for the matchup. The episode with Swordsoul and token collector is a prime example of this.
Siding is supposed to better calibrate your deck for 1st and 2nd and to side out bricks versus specific strategies.
YGO is supposed to be fun, but siding in droll and 5 rainbow so you cuck SHS is not fun for either side.
>Siding is supposed to better calibrate your deck for 1st and 2nd and to side out bricks versus specific strategies.
how is this incongruous with
>YGO is supposed to be fun, but siding in droll and 5 rainbow so you cuck SHS is not fun for either side.
one does not contradict the other. you play the game to win. if winning means you activate 5 rainbow that's just how it is and no amount of pilpul proves otherwise.
>if winning means you activate 5 rainbow that's just how it is and no amount of pilpul proves otherwise
The game is in a bad state when you have to use situational floodgates to win, and that is the norm for the TCG now despite claims it's a "better" meta than MD or OCG.
At best, both fomats are different sides of the same coin. But the TCG is israeli and has a unwashed, sweaty playerbase. We are eating good with MD.
>and that is the norm for the TCG now despite claims it's a "better" meta than MD or OCG.
delusional as always. you don't play either the tcg or ocg. not only are you a moronic newbie, but a larper too.
>Don't listen to a MD player about deck building. Their mentality of decking is stuffing their deck with as many Maxx C outs as possible for the same players also stuffing their decks with Maxx C and Maxx C outs. The episode of 90% of decks in every format and the same 9 cards is a prime example of this.
>Maxx C is supposed to keep the meta decks in check for 1st and 2nd and to better make your deck as unfun as possible against every other deck except the ones that are larely or entirely ignorant because Konami wanted to ignore the card that supposed keeps the game in check
>YGO is supposed to be fun, but playing Maxx C and Maxx C outs every single game so you cuck every deck in the draw phase to except stun decks and Tearlaments is not fun for either side.
>The episode of 90% of decks in every format and the same 9 cards is a prime example of this.
kek
Stupid MDbabies doesn't know how to deckbuilding
>3 pot of greed
>3 graceful charity
>3 forceful sentry
>3 delinquent duo
>3 trap dustshoot
>The episode of 90% of decks in every format and the same 9 cards is a prime example of this.
This has been the case since the very beginning of YGO newbie
No you got it wrong man: Maxx C keeps the OCG players in check!
Is thanks to the buge of balance for NA finally winning a worlds after years!
Wow that's cool, or sorry it happened, I don't really care enough to read your post, so why don't you do everyone a favor and go back to /dng/ or whatever hole you crawled from?
Holy reddit
>if you actually played real YGO alongside MD
This moron things wiping his arse with cardboard makes him a better player. KEKYou
Kotton won that match and made it to the finals so yeah he was the better player.
>plays with toilet paper and sucks paper player dick
what a colossal homosexual
I don't see any of you homosexuals dominating worlds for MD. How does it feel to know that only TCG players were in serious contention for the championship for the first MD worlds? Fricking dumb ass MD players didn't even know what the frick Runick Naturia was.
>you're not an MD player if you also play TGC.
Nice reading comprehension
>How does it feel to know that only TCG players were in serious contention for the championship for the first MD worlds?
Right here you distinguish between MD players who also play TGC and those who don't.
>"playing" TCG
Truly a fate worse than death. If I'm gonna play cardboard, I'm gonna play a better fricking game like Digimon, Wixoss, or Duel Masters.
You're like a child at the dinner table refusing to eat healthy foods. You literally don't know any better.
I don't play D Link. But any time I'm matched against D Link, the game is actually fun to play when no one has Maxx C. I don't understand how anyone can have a hard time cracking that board.
Lab just vomits Traps onto the board and removes cards from my hand before I'm even in Standby and recycles D Barrier.
I mean I understand the reasons people are saying just not how they actually think that way. And the b***hing only started lately. Not after Bystials came out, but only once they performed well in both world formats. As if everyone who doesn't understand how to beat the deck simultaneously felt validated that they're shit at the matchup. The deck is interesting and rewards actually knowing how to play beyond optimal combos. I like that kind of deck. Only reason I don't play it is because I don't care for Dragons and I am fickle.
>TCG that's been rarity bumped to shit and expensive as hell full of Black folk
>Healthy
Deranged
It's basically sunk cost at this point. Clearly he has no one to play with. No need to give the cardboard player attention.
Why do MDbabbys always deflect from the actual format to price? I don't shit on MD for their shit gem prices for pixels, lowering the gem rewards for events, or avoiding banning URs because they won't even refund you 30 fricking UR dust. No, I shit on MD because it's a fricking clown format with an eternal coinflip format.
Noooo not the coinflip! I'd much rather have to play TWO games where I lose from going second because I lost a dice roll! And two of the three games can be decided by who draws their side deck blowout cards and instantly win!
>because I lost a dice roll!
Ah yes much worse than MD where you will mysteriously lose the coinflip 10 times in a row to maintain that 50/50 W/L for maximum user engagement. I hate actually knowing that the selector was not rigged like with in person dice rolls or TCG simulator RPS where user input ensures that it is fair.
you still haven't posted your deck, tranon.
>MD
I'm no universe is Yugioh, OCG or TCG, better than Digimon, Wixoss, abd Duel Masters.
TCG format suffers from a lot of the same problems as MD albeit
As someone who plays both irl and MD I gotta say is nice MD lets you use alot of banned cards, feels different enough to play. TCG format is very ball crushing and pushes too hard for the combo frickery and floodgates while MD is a weird mix soup of things and bo1 makes the coinflip more nasty.
Both are good and you're an absolute homosexual for thinking beating a couples of Black folk at locals playing anime decks makes you a big shot.
>A Tier 1 deck beat a Rogue deck despite the pilot being an idiot
NOOOOOOOO...... REALLY?!
>w-what do you mean I have to put stuff other than combo fuel in my main deck
>aaieeeeeeee make the scary back row man stop
>You can get a lot more creative than that.
nta but this is cope and you know it. 99.99999% of siding is exactly
>I side these 6 non-engine out for 6 different non-engine!
this isn't fricking 2008 where you can use a transformative side to smokescreen into another deck entirely.
you still haven't posted your deck, tranon.
>The game would be way better if at least the coinflip loser got to side
You're a fricking moron.
>muh skillfull siding
>yeah bro just let me add as many boardbroakers as humanely possible to my side deck
>I'm so fricking skilled for drawing into evenly and DRNM
>implying I don't have appointer for your boardbreakers
siding used to be skillful when a single card wouldn't win you the entire game going 1st. Stuff like playing smoke-screens, adding some extra trap holes to search off Myrmeleo depending on the match-up, Enemy Controller and Puppet Plant/Electric Virus, Kaijus, etc, the side deck was extremely diverse from format to format
Now you just put in some Evenly Matched and Triple Tactics Thrust and blow the frick out of anyone going 2nd. Or the playset of Droll, DRNM and Sphere Mode. Where's the skill involved in that?
>Master Duel doesn't make you a better player
>playing yugioh doesn't make you better at yugioh
objectively false and not reading the rest of your moronic essay
I have never played the physical game.
>TCG
>Enjoyer
This is like admitting to being a cuck. Do you enjoy getting ripped off?
All negation-based handtraps that work while you already have an established board are unfair, Ash Blossom killed every single deck that only had one searcher back in the day. Spooky Dogwood and the Kuribohs are the only fair generic handtraps.
>no one has done the Piccolo tanking a hit for Gohan meme but with Merrli and Kit instead
Because Merrli was banned to protect Elf, moron.
>MD actually caved and killed Tears when it's the current most fair deck in the game
LAME!
>play lab for dark
>board gets cleared by borrelend
>play exo for light
>board gets cleared by borrelend
nerf dragonlink already!
your imperm??!?!?!?
Is Dark Ruler into Evenly better than Droplet into Evenly?
in a vaccum dark ruler is better, but it depends.
Finally made it to Diamond 1 with pure kash. When the bricks, it bricks, and it bricks damn often.
When it works, it's just so damn fun to play, though. Got to Zeus an entire lab board. That was so kash.
I love Dustons, I just played a game where I had there whole board of rikia's ect locked down for 10 or so turns while I patiently waited to draw my battlemanian and win.
God I love dustons, god I hate link monsters.
>watchin' HIS top 16 video
>see Spright coping with Hero Kid
KEK freakin' W mate
>decide to play casual mode and play my shitty blue-eyes deck
>everyone is playing tears, sprights or kash
Please I just want to play with my shitty pet deck
this happens in every game that ever has casual matches. it's never the place to go to play fun decks. it's always where metatrannies with fragile egos go to pubstomp to blow off steam from ranked.
Never go past gold, you hear me? never.
Proof positive that alternatve formats don't work.
Unlimited on Dueling Book usually devolves into:
>Exodia decks with x3 Pot of Greed
>Zoodiac decks with x3 Pot of Greed
>Tealaments with x3 Graceful Charity
Players aren't interested in an interactive game, they're looking for the dopamine high of coombo crushing someone.
Just allow us to make custom banlists and then have groups or whatever that use the custom banlist assigned by group leader.
>20 second queue times
Dead game
>play monsters in attack mode
>get fricked by Lightning Strike
>play a single monster in defense mode
>opponent makes an Xyz monster and wipes your board with Zeus
At least Purrely is guaranteed to get Zeus banned...
You're funny
purrely has been a top contender in the ocg for months and they still have zeus legal. don't delude yourself.
The difference is the Master Duel devs is willing to cause collateral damage to avoid hitting new cards. Thankfully, the deck won't have all its support right out of the gate.
homie they're releasing the CYAC stuff
What the frick is this fricking deck?
Why're there so many rhongo tier card now?
Because Mayakashi is a notorious shitty archetype and Shiranui is ok but better play as Zombie support
dragunity tuner on steroids
>card designer sama we need to create support for archetype that can't compete with current cards
>ehhh? give it a floodgate
>subarashi
>a worse d barrier tied to two dogshit archetypes that have only ever been good in duel links
I dunno. It's fine right now. Just run d barrier.
This
Konami's default is 'need support? Give it a floodgate' when supporting old shit.
zeus and drident should be unlimited
i keep thinking about ip's sexy smile
Either Tracer goes, or the Bystials go. Konami isn't going to ban 2-3 cards to preserve a pile deck.
Dragon Link isn't even a problem deck
>locals
Discarded
>Tearlaments are straight up dead
I don't wanna hear any more homosexuals b***hing about Kitkallos ever again.
just ban the link 1s. The biggest problem with dragons is their ability to extend from the graveyard with only one card and the fact that striker dragon and pisty not only allow you to dump the material from the field to get powerful effects like collapserpent/wyverburster or black metal but also plus you with their own seacrh/summon effects is fricking moronic.
I don't get the hate D Link is getting lately. Just because it has been performing really well doesn't mean you need to ban anything about it. Of all the top decks It's probably the most fair and enjoyable to play against. Shit like Lab despite not being the top performer needs the banlist though because the deck is extrmely unfun and unfair turboing out and recurring floodgates.
>Lab
>rogue
Durr hurr
It was a worlds you stupid frick.
>Of all the top decks It's probably the most fair and enjoyable to play against.
this is a dlink troon cope 100%.
>this is a dlink troon cope 100%
For vanilla Dragon Link, he's right though. None of their bosses destroy and the deck has little followup if you break their field.
Bystial Dragon Link is another animal entirely
there is no such thing as "vanilla" dlink outside special event regulations. bystial dlink IS dlink. this is simply the reality of our present day.
>vanilla pile deck
That's an oxymoron
>I don't get the hate D Link is getting lately.
Bystials
>D-Link apologist when it's at full power and with complete access to Bystials
>immediately deflects to how Lab is unfair because of one/two unsearchable floodgates
You almost got me there not gonna lie.
>I don't get the hate D Link is getting lately.
newbie
>nib DL
>because of spheres they can summon seyfert
>single seyfert gets you borrelend + savage
It isn't remotely fair in the slightest way, link 1s always lead to degenerate combo bullshit
Just ban the Link 1.
>Of all the top decks It's probably the most fair and enjoyable to play against.
It's the same shit as Adaman
>Shit like Lab despite not being the top performer needs the banlist though because the deck is extrmely unfun and unfair
lmao though I do think D barrier needs to be banned. No reason to hit lab directly though
Adamancipators are unironically weaker because they can't use Bystials, and running Bystials makes them vulnerable to Bystials
This is why recent Adamancipator builds were turboing out Pachy and Bamboo Shoot, and that's what got Block Dragon banned.
Pretty much. I feel like Dragon Link was always one of those decks that no one liked going up against but was hard enough to pilot and rare enough to see around that everyone just sorta gave it a pass.
fact: the only time side boarding is interesting is when you're playing some really wanky shit that has interesting in-archetype card that aren't generally run but can make an impact, OR when the deck you're running is so fricking bad that to sideboard enough cards to make a difference means cutting into in-engine stuff
Notice how the TCGtard still hasn't posted his rank, like his opinions are even worth shit when he might not even play MD in the first place.
From what I've seen most TGC players tend to also play MD. The few who don't are the schizos from /dng/ who refuse to play anything but edopro.
Most TCG tubers play MD because they're trying to build up their channels and recognize MD is a huge casual magnet.
I don't know any competitive, non-tuber TCG players that play Master Duel. MD is everythng they hate.
>played against kash for the first time
This is bullshit, what the FRICK
Do you MISS Tears format yet? It's only going to get worse from here if you think Kash is the only problem.
Kash isn't as bad as Tears and everything after Kash is nowhere near as bad as Tears
Better start packing Ghost Ogre, backrow removal and kaijus because that shit is going to become even more popular after the next banlist.
and its only going to get worse
i honestly expect kash nogs to run mask of restrict because every Black person stacks their deck with win more shit
This is Axe Gang territory.
I have been converted. Bullying Black personwings by lynching their Not Hungs and Full Armour Masters makes me so fricking hard.
What do I do if my opponent plays two Black Whirlwinds?
You just pop both of them?
>"Just limit the Bystials"
>"Just ban the Bystials"
>"Just ban Striker Dragon"
>"Just ban both link 1s"
Or we could just, you know, ban Tracer.
>mfw Kashtira P.U.N.K
I feel evil fricking petdecks left and right but I took the abuse too long and I really like Kash look and battleplan.
Would Kashtira Dogmatika work?
I don't see why not.
Work for what?