Of course it is. Most of the tcg/ocg players have already quit and the ones left remaining are probably playing shit like Swordsoulless and Double Penetration Enthusiast.
If they keep not releasing more often, it will.
And if this is how they want to do their business, I hope it dies then. Not even asking much, just one or two weeks release some filler like mates or accessories, but they couldn't even do that. Not even a gate per two weeks.
If Konami keeps mishandling this game like Bandai keeps mishandling Digimon, of course it's going to die.
thats the stupid thing, if they had a proper team behind it and actually got the cardpool up to date and released gates in a more timely fashion at the bare minimum, it'd be much more of a hit
but instead its
HEY
DO YOU WANT 10 MASTER PACKS AND 1X INFINITE IMPERM?
Konamis been mishandling this game since its inception and its been even worse than this before, and yet it still lives somehow. The power of brand recognition runs strong still to this day.
Tired of seeing these stats comprising of only stream but I wonder were the game will plateau at in the end as a whole.
The highest this game had total was close to 11 mil apparently, but the new pack release in seven-ish days should cause a small spark of life before evening out again or dropping more due to adventure lol
how do you even get an accurate grasp of total numbers?
I agree steamcharts aren't the whole picture but it seems like a ballache to grab numbers from every console + pc and any non-steam numbers.
Yugi vs Kaiba > Nugioh
GOAT > Nugioh
Reaper > Nugioh
Edison > Nugioh
Legendary six samurai cancer = Nugioh
Dragon ruler and spellbook cancer = Nugioh
HAT > Nugioh
Burning abyss format > Nugioh
Zoodiac cancer = Nugioh
Day 1 of MR4 > Nugioh
I suppose this happens to most released, but it was indeed a considerable drop, what I think happened is that, when Master Duel came out, a lot of people who liked YGO at some point before decided to download it, even if only for the sake of nostalgia, and when they saw how YGO now is completely different from when they first got into it all those years back, they gave up on it because it got overwhelming to them, the people that stayed are mostly the ones that already played YGO regularly to begin with.
No what happens is there's just not enough content. That's just straight up it
People game back. Maybe some got hard filtered but a lot stuck with the game (it still was reaching like 50k daily in May) but they're just too slow with the releases
There's nothing to get excited for. Like no shit the game is reaching peak dead when the only thing we've had in the last month was Exosisters (without the cards that make them good)
I haven't played the game in several days despite really enjoying it. Why? Because I only need to do my dailies once every 3 days and then I can just log it. I'm not missing anything because there's nothing going on beyond ranking up with the same decks I've been ranking up with for months
It literally is just that simple. More cards, more updates, more things to do = more players.
Also the battlepass lasting for two months, if you aren't a shitter you can reach level 100 early leaving you with nothing to work toward for 40+ days.
Yes. By now all the people who returned to the game through Master Duel have remembered how frustrating and shitty it is and the lack of action on banlists and card packs has driven away hardcore players so the only people that remain are the same contingent of diehard autistic neckbeards playing it in real life.
>Played it months ago, I quit the real game for a long time (a bit before links came out) >Opponents negate everything you can do in your turn. >Opponents keep summoning during ages. >Archetypes are now based on searching and recycling. >Cards which have multiple effects depending on where they go.
At least when I played Lightsworns I knew I had to balance out for cards that would be wasted if they went to the GY, this is madness.
>Is the game fricking doomed?
I'm a noob (meaning I didn't play OGC/TGC) but yeah, it was obvious from the start.
90% of the people only watched Yugi's saga (myself included) so it's no surprise that no one like the current meta of Syncro/XYZ/Link infinite summon negate boards.
I mean I'm willing to bet only Asians/SEA players remain active
Having to add thing up exactly and make sure you don't have too many or too few tuners requires more thing (in terms of being a summoning concept) than "lol, two of the same level"
>summon monster >it summons tuner of appropriate level for free
Wow. Impressive. And I'm sure all those fusion decks put deep and careful thought into making sure they have the appropriate fusion materials in their deck and don't just throw all the good monsters of the archetype in their deck instead.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm talking about the mechanic itself. Every mechanic stops being balance when card effects do all the work for you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
We all know that the mechanic doesn't actually matter when Konami does everything in their power to make sure that it can be skirted around as easily as possible. In fact I'd say that Sychros were the start of the slippery slope towards nugioh since normal summoning a monster and hoping it survives so you can normal summon a tuner next turn was obviously never going to be a viable strategy. I like nugioh though, so whatever. But Konami definitely goes too far a lot of the time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Even so, Xyz and Links are still easier to summon (i.e. require less thinking). There is a reason they have dominated over Synchros and Fusions, especially in terms of splashabilty, ever since they were released.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There is a reason they have dominated over Synchros and Fusions
Because Konami designs new cards around the new things being used so they can sell the new cards that are being advertised in the anime.
Now that we're out of the link era we see a lot more variety in the color of extra deck cards the popular decks use.
Super generic links existing as a holdover from MR4 are still a problem but it's not like generic Sychros and even Fusions aren't shitting up the meta as well.
t. someone who actually analyzes the way game mechanics actually interact with other mechanics instead of going "haha me know basic math me summon white card 15 times per turn me good yugioh player :)" like most synchrobabs
2 years ago
Anonymous
>analyzes the way game mechanics actually interact with other mechanic
Did you even read the post you were replying to? How does that in any way have relevance to the question of what was the last mechanic to have any amount of inherent balance (before the game sped up and every mechanic became easy to accomplish)?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because it doesn't have any inherit balance dimwit, it is literally asking to be broken.
>xyz >use x monsters on the field to summon new monster from the extra deck >link >use x monsters on the field to summon new monster from the extra deck >synchro >use x monsters on the field to summon new monster from the extra deck
No it's all different because I need tuners, there's too many level 4 monsters that special summon themselves for free, and Links may as well not have requirements
There is no point in replying to be if you are going to be so disingenuous as to suggest having any two monsters on the field is equally as "challenging" as a concept as having the monsters levels add up to a specific value and making sure you have enough but not too many tuners included.
There are more link monsters than link 2s. And for xyz vs synchro you actually need specific levels for xyz monsters while baronne can be summoned with two level 5's, a 2 and an 8, a 3 and a 7, etc.
And you're still ignoring the fact that none of this fricking matters a single bit because Konami shits out cards that let you ignore the summoning mechanics and do them essentially for free.
Just look at the hot new deck that everyone is playing and tell me that it requires more effort or is more fair, or less generic because it uses synchro monsters.
At the end of the day the only real difference is the color of the card.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And for xyz vs synchro you actually need specific levels for xyz monsters while baronne can be summoned with two level 5's, a 2 and an 8, a 3 and a 7, etc.
You again didn't understand my post. I said that synchros were the last mechanic that had some decent degree involved within the mechanic. You are bringing up a modern day synchro, which is irrelevant, because I never said there are no synchros that are braindead to bring out. Every single mechanic now (ritual and fusion included) are at the point (and have been for a while) that cards are designed to make the strategy aspect innate to any of the mechanics moot (if there ever was any; I would argue Xyz and especially Links never did; although Links in MR4 had the thinking moved into arrow placement). But Fusion, Ritual, and Synchro I argue at least at some point in their history didn't have easy work arounds (especially generically) and you actually had to do a little thinking about performing those summons. >And you're still ignoring the fact that none of this fricking matters a single bit because Konami shits out cards that let you ignore the summoning mechanics and do them essentially for free.
As I have mentioned, that is irrelavant to what I am talking about >Just look at the hot new deck that everyone is playing and tell me that it requires more effort or is more fair, or less generic because it uses synchro monsters.
Again, irrelevant. (although I will say that in terms of splashablity, Synchro and Fusion in general lags behind Xyz and Link; of course, there are specific monster exceptions)
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You are bringing up a modern day synchro, which is irrelevant
Shut the frick up Black person, it's no use if you only talking about old days synchro because we're not living in the past.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But that is the topic I brought up, so why did you reply to me then?
2 years ago
Anonymous
This post is nearly undecipherable because of all the parenthesis. What are you even trying to say now?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, it's just like Yugioh cards. Read slowly. I believe in you. If parenthesis hurt your brain even so, just skip over them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not my job to figure out what message you are trying to convey, if you need to use 3 parenthesis per sentence consider rewriting your post in a different way to express all that information in a more direct way.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's not my job to figure out what message
This is code for "I don't want to bother reading". If you are literally so moronic that you can't manage to read a sentence with a parenthesis in it, just skip over the parentheses. The gist is the same. Surely you can manage that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not my point. Write better.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Not my point.
Your "point" was the text was "undecipherable" because there was parentheses. So how is that not your point?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you new? You are being baited.
2 years ago
Anonymous
My point is that you should write better, I already explained it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That isn't what you said in
This post is nearly undecipherable because of all the parenthesis. What are you even trying to say now?
. You are shifting the goalpost.
Are you new? You are being baited.
Maybe. But there is a decent chance he is actually a moronic zoomer with no attention span.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That post wasn't an argument, it was a question. In the following post I argued that you should rewrite your sentences instead of relying on too many parenthesis, but then you got pissy and started strawmaning me instead. Is everything clear now?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it was a question
A question that you only had because you literally wouldn't read the plain English text, not because the text was undecipherable. Especially not undecipherable due to the parentheses of all things. Furthermore, you're question was asking 'What does the post say?", and I replied with a method where you could get that answer - The method being that you can ignore the parentheses if for some reason parentheses scare you. If you really were aiming to understand what the post says as your question would suggest, you did you not accept that answer and instead turn this into a "Actually, I wasn't asking you to make me understand the post. I actually just want to say you write bad." >I argued that you should rewrite your sentences instead of relying on too many parenthesis
You only argued that because you didn't read the post. The parentheses were additive, not corporeal to the point of the sentences. The sentences were perfectly readable with or without the parentheses, but you seem too lazy to read it in either way. >started strawmaning me instead
No, that is what you did. You asked me to make the meaning clear, I provide the method to do so, and you did not accept that. And someone else now explained my point more briefly and you still haven't a reply to my original comment. Why is that? Maybe you never intended to give a legit response at all, hmm?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stop replying to bait. It's a waste of time and just fills the thread with pointless filler.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I asked you to explain yourself better from the very beginning. I know how to read, I read your post, that's why I know it is written like SHIT and asked you to write it again. I cannot make this any more clear. I would have argued with you about whatever stupid idea you had but you chose to get defensive instead. I am sorry I said anything to begin with, next time I'll just simply put words in your mouth and make up random strawmans instead of requesting a better explanation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I know how to read
Then explain what part of the sentences you didn't comprehend, and why you claimed that the sentences were "relying" on parentheses. If you read it, you would see the parentheses were additive. Explain.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, for the last time. He's not going to do any of that. He is just baiting. You were never ever going to get an actual reply to your post from him. The only reason he replied was to say you wrote too much and get (you)s from you. Even if you stopped arguing with him and did what he said, he'd either not respond or just say your post still doesn't make sense. Stop feeding.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah dude, that's how I start all my best baits, by asking the other person to elaborate. Fricking moron, I don't even know I bother trying to engage honestly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Saying that you can't understand a sentence because it has parentheses in it is really really transparent bait. The stupid thing is the guy you are arguing with didn't see that. If at least you just left it at indecipherable, I could maybe think your were exaggerating a bit, but actually had issues reading it, since he did have some unclear text like forgetting "of skill" in the phrase "ad some decent degree involved". But you ignored the actually legitimate stuff you could take issue with in his post and went with parentheses. It's super obvious bait.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I purposefully kept my first posts shorts because I did not want to get into an autistic argument over grammar, I just wanted him to explain himself again instead of derailing the discussion. Anyway I don't fricking care anymore, synchros suck and ruined the game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay, I'll bite. What was said in
His point was that the mechanism of Synchro summoning used to not have an easy workaround and did at some point require a arbitrary modicum of decent skill. He also claims that Synchro was the last mechanic where that could be said to have been true, and that XYZ and Links were less skillful to use from the get-go. That is what he claims anyway.
is what I mean, although I will add that not only were XYZ and Links less skillful at the start in terms of their inherent mechanics, the game had progressed to the point that methods of working around even the natural "difficulty" of those summoning methods was abundant.
So know you understand what my post means, are you going to reply to the post's content now? Or are you going to not respond?
2 years ago
Anonymous
How exactly is that skillful? In practice synchro decks have multiple synchros for all the levels they can realistically access, sure you need to draw the right cards but that's luck, not a skill. Synchros having levels is also a huge mechanical flaw, it enables degenerate shit like synchro climbing, unlike XYZs which need special effects to do the same.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>that's luck, not a skill
It is harder to deck build having a good level distribution of non-tuners and tuner, as well has having not too many or too few tuners, in your deck than it is to ensure you have enough monsters of a certain type. Thinking ahead in the duel is also more delicate in the Synchro scenario I would also argue. Furthermore, you will never encounter a scenario like in Synchro were you have 1 non-tuner and two tuners and due to the current status of your extra deck, you can't synchro summon anything even though if one of those tuners had been a non-tuner instead, you would have been able to summon something. There is no analogous situation with Xyz. The closest thing is just not having two monsters of the same level, but that is more of a parallel with only having tuners or only having non-tuners available to you. Again, I say all of these moreso thinking from the early XYZ perspective. Nowadays, there are so many card effect tools you can use to fix your hand or board to do something. >Synchros having levels is also a huge mechanical flaw, it enables degenerate shit like synchro climbing, unlike XYZs which need special effects to do the same.
In terms of leveraging your current Extra Deck monster to get a stronger one, sure. But getting a perfectly appropriate strong/useful XYZ monster historically had been easier than getting a synchro. Or to say it another way, more could go wrong with the Synchro summon than the Xyz summon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It is harder to deck build having a good level distribution of non-tuners and tuner, as well has having not too many or too few tuners, in your deck than it is to ensure you have enough monsters of a certain type.
You could argue the same thing about XYZ decks needing high level monsters to go into higher ranks. A deck that needs multiple level 7/8/9 etc on the field just to work is gonna be way more bricky and inconsistent. In fact it is arguably better to use synchro engines like virtual world if you want to consistently be able to access those kinds on ranks. Also early on a lot of decks didn't fully commit to XYZs and had them more as a back up plan, carrying a lot of monsters of different ranks since you also didn't have 15 rank 4 stables to go into every game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
His point was that the mechanism of Synchro summoning used to not have an easy workaround and did at some point require a arbitrary modicum of decent skill. He also claims that Synchro was the last mechanic where that could be said to have been true, and that XYZ and Links were less skillful to use from the get-go. That is what he claims anyway.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>undecipherable because of all the parenthesis
This is what modern day attention spans cause. Holy shit, I don't agree with what he is saying, but if you can't read and understand that text - because of the parentheses no less - you unironically have a reading comprehension problem.
But that isn't an issue of the mechanic needing skill. That is an issue of the result of the mechanic, the XYZ monster, not being worth the effort at the time. That is a completely different issue from what I am talking about. At the very beginning of the XYZ era, it was easier to summon XYZ monsters than Synchros. Because the mechanic needed way less inherent "skill" or "setup". You didn't see as many Xyz summons, not because it was equally as difficulty or more difficult than Synchro summoning, you saw less because even though it was easier, it wasn't worth doing as much as Synchros at the start.
Xyz monsters were weaker than synchro monsters. That was the trade off, either something easier to summon or something more powerful. They had to butcher synchros with bans before people stopped using them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
xyz quickly outperformed synchros after release because assembling a tuner + nontuner was always bricker than building an entire deck of lvl 4s that summon themselves. Xyz were supposed to have ammo in the form of overlay units except their effects were so busted that even if they only used them once they were way more useful than synchros were. There were a lot more broken xyz than there were broken synchros.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Did you even play back then? That's not what happened. Konami had to force people into xyz with bans. Stop making shit up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Xyz monsters were weaker than synchro monsters. That was the trade off, either something easier to summon or something more powerful.
And that is why I liked them better at first. Then they got to be as strong or even stronger than Synchro and Fusion monsters, with a way easier summoning condition, and I was dissatisfied with that. Links were the same, but as I mentioned in some comment earlier, Links in MR4 at least had some thinking need in terms of link arrow positioning, which affected your subsequent Extra Deck summoning options and strategies, although with the revision, the need for that "skill" has been mitigated in a lot of cases.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>as strong as
lol more like synchros being banned out of existence so that xyz was the only option left
2 years ago
Anonymous
That sped up the adoption of Xyz, but eventually, the Xyz did get to be as strong as, or stronger, than Synchros, on top of being easier to summon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah that's because konami just stopped supporting synchros. it had nothing to do with xyz as a mechanic being broken.
Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, xyz. This is all the game needed. You have Rituals which are the "special effect needed to summon something from your hand" trade off for something of high power.
Then you have fusions which is similar but always in the extra deck and benefits from having options from hand and field.
Then you have synhcros which is specific to tuners, then xyz as the broadest option.
Ideally the power of the cards should be determined by their ease of summon, meaning Xyzs should be the weakest, and rituals the strongest. But this is usually not the case.
Everything else is fricking weird or pointless. Links are just annoying chained tribute summoning with a now pointless arrow mechanic. Pendulums are some autistic bullshit that fundamentally changes how summons work.
In part I'm glad I only have to duel once or twice per day to do my dailies so I can take the game as casual as I want, but on the other hand I wish there was more stuff to do, we're approaching the half-year anniversary and we're still stuck with nothing but Ranked and the monthly event. For a card game with over 10k cards available, they sure make no effort to make people build varied decks for modes with different and unique restrictions.
I think what bothers me the most is the complete radio silence, we get no notifications whatsoever for way too long, no sneak peaks, no info on future content or cards, nothing, we just have to patiently wait for an update that might have content we might not even see for months, such as the many datamined events and placeholder bundles and structure decks.
Nah, don't listen to that anon. Yes, there are staples but there is a huge variety of decks and even staples. Bo1 format is not how the game should be played but it also allows weaker/unusual decks to get wins against stronger decks because even the best deck can't plan for everything or just have a bad opening hand. The cost of a deck is not related to its performance so you can make a really strong meta deck right from the start. beware that this is a F2P game, so you either have to pay with your time or your money. You get a lot of currency at the start though, enough to comfortly build at least one decent deck. It's also really easy to create extra accounts so you can keep building decks that way.
I think you're right anon, the f2p nature of the game does make it really easy for there to be a lot of shitters making meta decks and stuff, I imagine that the real life game is way more different.
lol is this thread really crying about exosisters now, that's a new low
Considering that I just came back to the game after more than a decade, I don't think you can take my post seriously.
Every deck is either 'you can only play this card with its mediocre effect if your entire deck is the archetype its from also discard a card' or 'this card special summons itself no matter what also draw your extender plus two hand traps'
Then the good decks have the least creative win conditions of all time
Yeah it seems a little wonky to me that someone will just keep summoning things over and over. I don't fully understand it myself but it seeing a dude summon like ten different exosister by recycling the one they just summoned just for some effect seems wrong to me.
Expected in the first days of ranked, everyone will tryhard to reach D1 as fast as possible, either you join them, pack Token Collector or wait half a month.
>losing to swordsoul
Did you brick every single duel? Or by the looks of it, I guess you're just surrendering? I rarely have an issue with them unless I brick AND they have great draws, usually they just summon that one red homosexual and maybe a baronne neither of which are very intimidating.
>usually they just summon that one red homosexual and maybe a baronne neither of which are very intimidating
Thats because most swordsoul players have no idea how to play the deck, so they just go for the only combo they know every game.
A lot of them also play the shitty DPE version.
Against an actually decent build with a halfway competent pilot, the deck is very hard to beat.
I do find it hilarious how quickly Drytroons and EldBlack folk became a non-entity the second they stopped being Tier 1 decks. It just goes to show that any Tier 1 Black person who bullshits about playing the decks because they're fun and not because they're easy wins is a fricking liar.
I'm still playing Zombie World Eldlich since the release of this game.
I've been stuck with Zombie World since the 5D's era and it's the only play style that's perfect for me, Eldlich was a good addition since Zombie World rarely had back row.
I still play Eldlich, in fact I've been slowly branching out from pure Eldlich with broken staples to slotting in Madlich and other zombies because they're fun and I feel as if I can actually benefit more from them than certain staples now that I understand the deck better.
Still doesn't stop the command for you to stick a fork into an real life electric socket.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I have the United Kingdom field spell in play so our sockets are grounded and ineffective when not switched on. I also have the fuse continuous trap on the field that the UK field spell searches for, which causes the power to cut when the voltage spikes reducing my lifepoint damage to a mere 100 points and negating all future real life electric socket damage.
It's not like Drytron or Eldlich got particularly weaker, they just aren't the new hot stuff. Block Dragon is still at 3 but you see more Exosister in Diamond than Adamancipator.
Eldlich got significantly weaker, Guardian is a nothingburger of a card that they'd never run if they had Conquistador at 3. They're much more reliant on floodgates than before because they don't have as easy disruption access.
>I do find it hilarious how quickly Drytroons and EldBlack folk became a non-entity the second they stopped being Tier 1 decks
Absolutely most moronic post I've ever read in this thread.
>losing to ladder Swordsoul
Actual turbo shitter
Those homosexuals will open with all 3 Tenyi names then procede to do nothing but reveal them for Mo Ye and discard them for Longyuan and do the godawful Baronne Chixiao board
>thinks he will get to use his turtle
anon, it's already too late if final sigma is OUT, i'm afraid there won't be another turn to use that cute turtle...
Anon, Final Sigma isn't used as a wall, it's used as a closer.
It's not a Next Turn monster, it's there to finish the job with any damage dealt against your monster done 2x, which can also be doubled by their in archetype card's effect to double their damage, and their archetype's equip which adds 1000 damage, so imagine
3000 + 1000 = 4000 x 2 = 8000 x 2
=
16000 Damage in Total
And it's immune to any card effect from the opponent.
Penguins are legacy, anon. You just roll the tickets you get from duels until you have the URs and SRs you need, then you craft the bulk of penguins which are only Cs and Rs.
It really does suck that everyone is forced to break out the credit card to even have a chance to compete with the paypig penguin players dominating Diamond.
Like 80% of gold players currently are the platinum players from last season. You always have to consider the tier you're in to be one tier higher after season resets.
I'm been converting all gems and CP into Junk Speeder packs and crafting Junk Speeder. Been doing this for like a week. Still no royal rare Junk Speeder.
When I finally do get it I will just quit.
That's my only goal.
make sure you have plunders in hand for costs. at least one since all the boats add another after their effect resolves.
remember that the equip isn't just for cheating an ed monster out. i find it extremely useful if you can get moerk out properly and just equip it from hand since it'll have materials for protection.
and finally cry when your opponent is playing all wind/earth
Nice. I wish Plunder had something like Awakening of the Sacred beasts that gives you bonuses for having each of the ships out. It's so cool when you get them all and it's like "the gang's all here".
Is there a way other than youtube to play the music of your own fricking field.
I'm sick of hearing the forest bc no homie picks a field other than that.
I know people hate fun but at least let me hear something pleasant while I get rammed by a n*meron player kaiju'ing my shit and spamming field searches all day
>open with reload or magical mallet >use one of them >end up with another >use it and end up drawing all my copies >end up with one of them at the end and can't do anything
This has happened in like 6 duels
4 yesterday and 2 today
I'm not mad about it
I'm just saying what happened
I wasn't going to win the duel anyway since I was playing a suicide deck
Really what are the chances I end up drawing every copy of reload and magical mallet in my deck?
Not if they release a banlist that's tailored to the Best of 1 format rather than ripping off a Best of 3 format list and then applying how a completely different banlist works to how this works (In Duel Links, you can only have 2 cards on the "at 2" list, but Master Duel is merely two copies of that specific card).
Mileage may vary on how likely you think that is, though. Personally, I predict a slaughter list.
>ripping off a Best of 3 format list
They didn't even ripoff a specific OCG banlist, they mixed and matched a few 2021 OCG banlists in the most dogshit way possible.
We have Salamangreat Circle at 3, Oviraptor at 2, Zeus at 1 and Mine at 0, all of which happened on the October 2021 OCG banlist. But we don't have VFD at 0, Gamma at 1 and Crossout at 2, which are from the same October 2021 banlist.
It's a complete clown format.
Master Duel needs stuff to do. There shouldn't be any (downtime) at all. Even the very basic thing of "let players use the shitty banlists from previous events for their duel rooms" isn't available. This is a sim but you can only play one format except for like a week and a half a month where you play this other one for rewards.
They should know this coming from Duel Links. That game vomits shitty events at you constantly, you can barely open the game without being bombarded with annoying event dialogue and popups. The director of this game is the same one from Duel Links even. I have no idea why they keep this game in this abandoned state.
>The director of this game is the same one from Duel Links even. I have no idea why they keep this game in this abandoned state.
You wanna know the real reason why MD is abandoned? Because the surprising success of the game on launch actually LOST Konami money. Duel Links is such a massive cash cow for them that pulling whales away from it, even if it's from another Konami game, is a huge loss. Konami immediately put MD on a skeleton crew the moment the numbers came in. They fricked up with the games microtransactions (not greedy enough) so they are doing everything they can to make the game suck to get players back on DL.
3 things would cause the game to skyrocket again >A good best of 1 banlist for ranked ladder >Expand the hosted rooms feature to have a browser >With games hosted in said browser, you can create your own custom banlists
Yugiboomers can play their nostalgic yugioh.
Fans of certain styles of events can refine better lists.
Goat, Edison, and others can be played in Master Duel.
And ladder will be less of a mess.
Also something Konami might go for if brought up because you go through their servers to host online, so they'd see all the lists. Extremely popular lists become used for events or official IRL alt formats. Cards frequently hit plus Diamond and some Plat level data can help inform banlist decisions.
Master Duel needs stuff to do. There shouldn't be any (downtime) at all. Even the very basic thing of "let players use the shitty banlists from previous events for their duel rooms" isn't available. This is a sim but you can only play one format except for like a week and a half a month where you play this other one for rewards.
They have to literally release any fricking content on a more frequent basis. Like literally anything.
There was no banlist and the Exosister set was pure shit so this is the 3rd season in a row where ranked is the exact same and there is nothing to do in the game besides playing ranked.
>Hmm which one is cucked, the homosexual playing the fotm netdeck or the guy capitalising on the most fun concept in video games: ruining other people's fun
Yeah, go back to r*ddit, kid.
then call me the blackest Black person on planet earth, brainless cattle subhumans like you will never understand that there is no point playing online if you're not actively fricking with someone else
Those are a million times more fun to fight than stun decks. The only fun to be found vs stun decks isn't from the gameplay itself but when you manage to out their floodgates and get the satisfaction of giving someone using that deck a loss.
As an Earth Machines player going up against Cyber Dragons is almost always an instant scoop for me if I can't OTK since every turn my board gets wiped with no way to stop it because for some reason Konami thinks having non-respondable ways to use opponent's monsters for material is good design.
Kaijus are okay though, at least they give your opponent a card
>I summon a token on both our field on the first turn >It is a variant that summons Numeron dragon instead and destroys the token >Get stopped cold by battle fader >He gets Kaiju'ed and OTK'ed instead by tokens.
God i hate heroes, they have every single kind of support under the sun, they take 40 minutes to leave a mediocre board. The only good card in their shit deck is forbidden droplet. That stupid dick pic enjoyer ruinded meta for everybody.
And the second you give them a cute turtle they will scoop. If you play heroes know i feel nothing but contempt for you
No, only the most damaged individuals even remember Zoodiacs at their worst, Zeus is the source of plenty of modern "wtf you can't just rank up for free" asspain by himself
I actually really came to like Xyz but even I have to admit that this summoning mechanic breaks its own rules in the dumbest ways way way more than the other summoning mechanics. I think maybe Ritual is the only one that breaks its rules harder, but Ritual has kind of evolved into this amalgamation of various different requirements to summon main deck monsters because the original intent was so shit, while Xyz went >durrr you stack these monsters for free does not start a chain
And I'm not even talking about Rank-Up magics, because that at least requires you to have that card and technically neg yourself. Downerd Magician is stupid, too.
All modern extra deck summons ignore the original design philosophy of the game. The summoning methods themselves are just window dressing where some of them pretend to take effort even though modern cards allow you to bullshit them out for free.
The original design philosophy is pretty damn slow and nonsensical. This is probably why defense position became more and more like a stun mechanic than some kind of walling mechanic to play the defensive.
The special summoning rabbit hole was clearly a sign that they were dissatisfied with the pace of the game, but I'm not sure why they didn't do shit like make Tribute summoning separate from normal summoning and to allow shit like tributing a high star monster to allow two normal summons or something like that.
They already had the idea of using monsters as a resource, but sort of gave up on it.
The game pretty much became "the core mechanics are bad so we use arch types that create mini games to bypass the rule". Rather than having a strong central ruleset.
Content wise yes and even if it wasn't the OCG and TCG are on a powerceep singularity right now with card power levels going through the roof once again.
what fricks about tearalement other than their design being pure sex.
I remember something about shaddoll synergy but that can't be fricking it surely.
Ishuzu got new band-aid support that involves Exchange of spirit because she used it in the anime. Ishuzu used Earth Fairies so our now familiar friend Heralds are involved. You can now set up on the first turn even if your opponent goes first.
You mill your deck to fuse. It's all off of monster effects so they can make any Dark fusion monster pretty much. Their fusion monsters have to be killed twice to die from card effects. They can play on your turn. Afterwards they released new cards that mill 5 cards from both player's decks and shuffle cards in the graveyard back into the deck to dodge targeting effects that would stop them. All of those cards are fairies so you can send them with Herald of Orange Light as a monster negate and they'll go off, or normal summon Diviner and send one that way to get going. They can make Winda (special summon floodgate), Dragostapelia (big body monster negate), Millennium-Eyes Restrict if they use King of the Swamp on top of their own cards. Pretty hard to shut down and they get top spots in practically every tournament.
https://roadoftheking.com/ocg-2022-07-metagame-report-0/
oh so it's kind of a soup of like that mill deck konami made, herald pitching playmakers that then get used to fuse and still retain effects.
The playing on the opponents turn part sounds kind of gay but something about a soups of cards sounds kind of cool.
Might be just that I didn't play while adventure pile was the new hotness but steering away from archetypes is kind of neat.
Yeah they can make any Dark Fusion (or any fusion monster that can be made with a Dark monster) that isn't super specific, it got played with Branded for a while, there's the upcoming Grapha Fusion retrain that changes what your opponent's effect does, etc. But if you aren't playing a lot of graveyard hate it's very painful to go against.
goes with any deck that specialises in some specific zone I guess.
As long as there is some level of interaction outside of >DRNM into combo I guess it's fine
oh so it's kind of a soup of like that mill deck konami made, herald pitching playmakers that then get used to fuse and still retain effects.
The playing on the opponents turn part sounds kind of gay but something about a soups of cards sounds kind of cool.
Might be just that I didn't play while adventure pile was the new hotness but steering away from archetypes is kind of neat.
just checked that decklist, who the frick is playing spellbook striker and why.
You don't need *that* much help dumping spells surely, or is it just for the judgement and draw 2 off blue man
The chances of you entering a locale hobby shop and finding some homosexual who proudly presents forbidden droplets is slim. The game is much better when you have people that build decks for fun and not metahomosexualry.
On the other hand, in Master Duel everyone is on an even playing field, so while you may not need to worry about everyone having 3x Ash blossom(75-90 dollars), there's still a reasonable chance of there being that one guy with a fully built deck worth a thousand dollars who has a big advantage over the rest.
Not only is it possible, the value you get from spending money is absolutely garbage. Just research (and ideally test the deck in a different sim) before you spend your gems.
No, I said a different sim. Like EDOPro, or DuelingBook if you can handle manual over automation. There is the MasterDuel Offline client someone made that lets you play with every card in the game including banned ones and adjust it to your liking, but it's of course single player only.
>There is the MasterDuel Offline client someone made that lets you play with every card in the game including banned ones and adjust it to your liking, but it's of course single player only.
I didn't know that existed. I just googled it and found the download. That sounds great and I want to try it out, but how exactly does this work? Is it a separate executable that just uses the files from the main install? Can I have this for trying out decks without messing with my Steam install so that I can still play online on my account, or does it overwrite something? Any chance the steam file could find whatever it is that you install with this and ban me?
The person who made it probably answered your questions better than I could on the page. If you're really spooked, don't use it. They can't terminate your account for using EDOPro, which does the same thing effectively.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, I already downloaded it. It works great. Now I can try out decks I'm curious about on this and spend my gems less stupidly in the real thing.
Master Duel is extremely f2p friendly if you're smart with your resources, do the events, and do your dailies(requiring like 1-2 games a day). You can get a fully built top tier deck within a few days of playing. And in the long run you can get around 2 decks a month depending on how lucky you are.
For some reason spending real money on the game has absolutely terrible returns so you'd need to be an idiot or a huge whale to bother.
Why were zoomers in denial about the game being a total fricking shitshow for so long? Refusal to admit that the game has actually been getting worse and for a long time?
Master Duel is a terrible representation of actual yugioh. Unless you meant specifically Master Duel in your post and not general yugioh. In that case yeah Master Duel has been getting worse because they won't update the fricking banlist. Konami could get a lot more people coming into TCG off Master Duel than they are now if they had a banlist that wasn't fricking moronic.
MD is actually even worse than OCG by a lot, that's how bad it is. TCG is miles better with a couple of things that still need to go, but I find it pretty hilarious that MD-only players are at the point where they can't even defend their own banlist, just act like the others are as bad having never played yugioh in anything other than MD.
OCG is Tear and Splight only land, everything else got pushed out so hard it cant compete. it resembles Druler format in that way.
in MD you can still just play whatever you want and still climb to diamond, it will never be as bad as IRL because you can always scoop vs any shit matchup you want.
You don't even know that, you just read road of the king shit charts and assume that is an actual representation of the format. You don't actually play anything other than MD.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No your sources dont count
If you think MD is bad just wait till you try playing IRL where you actually have to spend money and will get washed by even the average player at locals because they metagay even harder than MD.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is it that bad
I put together some archetypes I liked but the rest of the decks are just filler cards worth nothing like Solemn Strikes
I don't think I have a single handtrap
2 years ago
Anonymous
>wait till you try playing IRL
I play TCG, MD babby. Not every locals is sweaty and you can absolutely play budget. What you said makes absolutely no fricking sense either. If you have to pay for cards, how can the guys at locals metagay harder than MD which is free and hands you gems like no tomorrow for whatever cards you want? I also do not give a single frick about your opinions or "sources" because you do not actually play the other formats you are talking about. The only bad thing about playing IRL is gays trying to cheat and you have to watch your opponent like a hawk. But now that auto-surrender hacks are apparently back, MD again will have a worse cheating problem.
Thoughts on komoney making a Pokémon like game where you collect monsters as you go? Kind of like the plot where the original characters were stuck in a virtual world because of kaiba's foster father.
Let's be honest kids can't play yugioh anymore because it's gotten too complicated for them and rush duel will just make them feel like they're missing out on the "real" game.
Seems like a good way to get them when they're young.
>we're getting more datamined things on the 9th >we get a glimpse of a verre, sera and ghost belle mate
How would you react, also what would be their interactions
>we're getting more datamined things on the 9th
We don't really know that. Getting the Adventure selection pack on the 9th after Swordsoul pack rotates is expected. But if that patch has anything new to datamine is up in the air. They still haven't added 80% of the shit we datamined from the last big patch.
Logic, Rilliona saw her 3 peers fell to their lust for power and decided to fill that hole with regular lust instead….AND IT WORKED! Rilliona is the only magistus that is not currently clinically insane with god complex.
>Crowley (young Aleister) is documented in history in Trismagistus >Aleister (old Crowley) is wiped out from all documentation by the glowies like he never existed according to card lore >Zoroa isn't mentioned anywhere and doesn't appear in Trismagistus and his status is not known in the current storyline
what the frick did he do
Endymion not only became a furgay but also a commie. Scuffing from all history books the mentions of the individuals that could make the story of our glorious leader less glorious is par for the course. At least the thankful that this guy did not restart the calendar to the day he took control.
Shiranui are only against evil yokai. Ash Blossom, much as she's known for pissing off people in gameplay, is a very good yokai, a loyal dog that helped out even after death.
>half of what's left is bots
I fricking WISH they were bots
It's been nothing but c**t after c**t after c**t and none of them are capable of reading
With bots I could do my shit and just wait until the game ends within a couple minutes
No, I get nothing but morons that have to prolong the duel because a card lit up and they have to negate something that was meant to help them
Bring back the bots
Frick the players
What will the next Extra Deck summoning mechanic even be to be simpler than Links? >Synchro: Two Monsters, a Tuner and a Non-Tuner whose Levels add up to the level of the Synchro Monster >Xyz: Two Monsters whose Levels are the same as the Rank of the Xyz Monster >Link: Two Monsters
TCG/OCG is probably done with new mechanics since the game is no longer tied to any anime shows, they still make game original support for anime decks, but the game got the point of being big enough it no longer need a TV show. All the new mechanics so far have been for Rush Duel since the current shows are about Rush.
>Japan loves Blackwings.
The grandson of one of Konomi’s greatest investors used to play Blackwings, that was why they used to get new support every pack. Now the same kid (must be like 19 at this point but you get the idea) switched to Galaxy Eyes and you can see it clearly.
I played irl back when Blackwings where brand new. People fricking LOVE that deck. I had friends who played it for years and only switched decks when the meta was too powercrept.
>Link: Two Monsters
We can already have this with One Monster. The only way to get further than that is to do the equivalent of having a category of monster (like "tuner") than can send itself from the hand or maybe even the deck in order to extra deck summon a new card type.
>playing against swordsoul with my madolche >he semi bricks while I brick hard with only spell cards >beats me down to 2k health with his shit monsters >finally get my combo going and bounce 2 of his cards >he scoops before I do any damage
Literally why? He still could make a comeback.
Konami confirmed a real Deck Master format but haven't done anything with it yet. The rules they mention here are extremely abusable so they'd likely have to make a looooooong banlist of cards you couldn't use as a deck master.
I have excess gems, should I gacha for a Swordsoul deck before the selection pack goes away in a few days? Or is the next selection pack more broken and I should just wait for that one?
The Swordsoul pack is the best pack in the game right now. Even if you aren't interested Swordsoul the pack has Heavenly Prison, DPE, and PUNK which become an extremely splashable engine later on.
I played an hour yesterday and it was a very long losing streak where I get nothing but get going-second hands going first, then vice versa second, going against floodgates with no removal, Maxx C against stun decks, no Maxx C against combo decks etc.
yes because just like the irl game konami doesn't know how to do a banlist, shit has been out for months now and they've hardly banned or limited anything just added more broken shit
Your aim for the first few turns is to set up as much disruption as possible with your spells by getting at least 3 of them into the grave to make sure you can trigger their powerful secondary effects when you need them. You also want recycle powerful spells like widow anchor and engage as much as possible before punching for game. Also you run both the Accesscode/Selene and DPE engines because Sky Striker Link Monsters can't do that much damage on their own. DPE is especially good in this deck because the Sky Striker spells need empty main monster zones to function and DPE can evacuate the field whenever.
Your set. Just remember to do the Shizuku shuffle during the end phase (using widow anchor on your own Shizuku that you pulled of her effect and then setting it with Multirole). Haven't played the deck in a while but I think you need to toggle ON
Also if you ever feel like using floodgates, you can use There Can Only be One or Kaiser Collisseum but I personally for playing that way.
Both Shizuku and Multirole are End Phase triggers. So by ordering them correctly, you're able to search Widow Anchor with Shizuku's effect, then immediately use it on herself, and because it's still the End Phase, you're able to activate Multirole on a new chain, and set the Anchor you just activated, since it was a SS spell you activated that turn.
>but I personally for playing that way.
I meant to say I don't care for playing that way
thanks for the help
what do you mean, i grab anchor with shizuku's end turn skill, and use it on her or...? i'm not following too well
>Shizuku lets you search a spell during the end phase.
>you use this to get Widow Anchor into your hand but you need to set it to use it on the opponents turn >you activate Widow Anchor, negate literally anything it doesn't matter since this is the end phase >and then use Multirole's effect to grab the Widow Anchor you just used and set it so you can use it on the opponents turn.
Both Shizuku and Multirole are End Phase triggers. So by ordering them correctly, you're able to search Widow Anchor with Shizuku's effect, then immediately use it on herself, and because it's still the End Phase, you're able to activate Multirole on a new chain, and set the Anchor you just activated, since it was a SS spell you activated that turn.
thanks a lot, i'll try this out in solo to try it out!
If you got Chengying, I'd at least keep one of those. I'm finding out that he's a fricking monster even outside of Swordsoul decks. Motherfricker might as well be an honorary Agent/Hyperion card, maybe even stronger in this deck than his own. I'm sure there's other synchro decks that can play him well, too.
Grandmaster Chingchong is pretty good in zombie world decks since Balerdroch can trigger his banishing. Though it can be hard to find space for him since Sunsaga and Baronne are also such great lvl 10 synchros.
he's also pretty alright in the deep sea package, which runs very well with popular shitdecks such as cloudians and especially icejades. I assume he'd also be alright in white aura since he's water.
The game is literally no skill homosexuals just making meta decks to autopilot them for the two turns duels last in modern Yu-Gi-Oh, this game is fricking dead. I remember playing 15 years ago and people got extremely creative with their decks, you almost never encountered the same feck twice, mob mentality homosexuals ruined the card game in general
Not true, I beat this rich kid "unbeatable" homosexual during a lunch duel and got the biggest pop of my life (Sad, I know) but it was because I got creative with my poorgay cards. Nowadays it's all about, hurr durr, this the best deck currently, hurr durr
You also had to know what was actually worth spending on. The rich asians I went to school with only measured the value of cards in their rarity and stats.
Vanity fiend is a floodgate. Not sure if it count as splasable.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can absolutely throw it into basically any random deck that can easily special summon stuff while maintaining their normal summon, or potentially have a low value minion survive to the next turn. Not saying you should, but you can.
god you don't even know how much better my deck would be if i didn't have to run those cards and their counters, i could play like 10 more extenders or starters.
>been getting Nibiru'd left and right lately >check decks after the match >it's always their fricking one-of they expect to draw off of Maxx C
Just frick this stupid game. I don't even think Nib is an unfair card but what the hell is this bullshit.
Agents. It sucks because not a lot of hands don't make a monster that can negate Nib until you're past 5 summons, and if you go into those monsters early, it weakens your board unless you drew like nuts already. Sometimes I do have Orange Light for Nib though, but not a lot lately. It's been coming in clutch for Maxx C in recent games, but not Nib.
>it's always their fricking one-of they expect to draw off of Maxx C
That's the entire point of running 1 Nib. If you are taking the Maxx C challenge and don't have 1 negate by 5 summons then you deserve to lose.
Read the fricking post again dumb frick. I'm mad they're drawing the one of in their OPENING HAND. I wouldn't be complaining about a one-of that they EXPECT to draw if they actually already drew it off Maxx C.
>it's always their fricking one-of they expect to draw off of Maxx C
That's the entire point of running 1 Nib. If you are taking the Maxx C challenge and don't have 1 negate by 5 summons then you deserve to lose.
>"this reset is my chance to play one of the fun decks I've built" >end up playing the same deck I started with anyway
I can't help it every season. It's not even thinking of rank climbing, I just like how it plays
>be in gold again >still run into swordsoul and tri-zoo >get sick of having my petdeck be beaten up >run swordsoul >meet an ancient gear player >win but feel bad
Feels like I still lost.
i love glassouffle so fricking much >summon glassouffle >''NOOOOOOooOOO DESTINY Black person MAN SAAVEE MEEEEE REEEE" >actives effect chain with glassouffle >chooses glassouffle gets popped himself while nothing happens to her >shuffle dpe and his shitty pot of greed back to the deck >scoop
how can a deck be so based
Yu-Gi-Oh is so fricking cancer now that I wish I could face burn and stall decks from 10+ years ago instead of being negated every fricking duel. It's like playing with extremely powered up version of Horus and Jinzo lockdown. You join them or you quit the game so I said frick it and gave up on trying to PLAY the game with my fav deck. This is all on Koshit, they reached peak powercreep.
Yugioh in general is a shitty whale game. Its about to get a whole lot worse too for TCG players once Tearlament/Splight/the even more branded support hit. Tearlament/Splight are beyond game state warping. Imagine a controlled Lightsworn that can play during your turn and never has to really worry about decking itself. Atleast Splight will lead to Toad being banned in TCG. The game gets worse and worse. Just play on free simulators don't be a whale like Basedmooo and gang.
People are insanely overreacting to both Splight and Tear. Shit that is good in OCG is not necessary good in TCG because the format is different. This happened just recently with Floowandereeze. Everyone said Floo was going to be taking tops everywhere, never happened. They're relegated to annoying ass deck that's good but not that good. They had extremely high representation in those shit roadoftheking pie charts for OCG l, not as high as Tear and Splight but high enough. Also we're not getting the Ishizu stuff that makes Tear the best deck for a while now. Splight will absolutely not be tier 0 when it comes out here in TCG also because surprise surprise everyone in the West gets to test play before the cards actually come out. Japs get rolled by new shit until they find out how to develop the meta, we have the deck half figured out before it comes out just based on looking at how the Japs build their decks around their new meta.
We also just have some different cards, like when we got Kaiju first.
But yeah some of the Ishizu shit is relegated to magazine promos in OCG which means we're going to have to wait until a collector's set like the Gold series or GFTP to get them. Can't believe how long it took for some of them.
On one hand, it's nice that they don't lock good shit behind time-sensitive subscription promos anymore in the TCG, on the other there's barely any promos now for anything since manga volumes aren't releasing anymore here and the OCG promos take fricking forever to get brought over, like Dark Alligator.
I thought that they just flat out stopped because there's literally no more manga volumes being published internationally. After the first few prints they just don't include the promos anymore.
I don't think they gave enough of a shit about the EU not getting the first run of Stardust Spark Dragon or something to stop printing promos with manga because that was literally the only reason people even bought them (Zexal was alright, but GX's manga was fricking boring and 5Ds kind of just ended too soon to make an impact, and everyone knows Arc-V's ending). There's just literally nothing to stick promos onto right now in the first place.
>I thought that they just flat out stopped because there's literally no more manga volumes being published internationally. After the first few prints they just don't include the promos anymore.
They where still making promos when Jump went full digital. If you subbed they just mailed you the promos.
>I don't think they gave enough of a shit about the EU not getting the first run of Stardust Spark Dragon or something to stop printing promos with manga
It was a huge deal and fricked with the Worlds banlist. a lot of meta cards came from the manga like Stratos, Absolute Zero, Tragoedia, Dandylion etc that EU couldn't use or forced Konami to immediately reprint the Jump cards to make them legal everywhere.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes anon, I'm fully aware of the shitty digital Jump shift that made me very bitter almost a decade ago. Jump promos are not the same thing. I'm talking about the cards that came with physical volumes of manga in a small insert at the back of the book, which caused most of them to be sold behind the counter at bookstores to prevent people from stealing them. They do not make international manga volumes anymore, ergo there are no more promos for them.
Wasn't the TCG rule that foreign language cards were fine as long as you provided an official translation and they were not designated for OCG use? If that's only the case for English then I'll laugh my ass off.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Wasn't the TCG rule that foreign language cards were fine as long as you provided an official translation and they were not designated for OCG use?
Yes but the card still needed to be printed in your language to use it. You couldn't just buy an english manga promo on ebay and is it in an area that didn't get the manga promos.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Printed? You couldn't just use the official Konami DB translation? Bizarre, I thought all TCG counted.
Well whatever, I don't miss the Jump promos apart from having to wait for collectors sets to bring over OCG cards now. Digital magazine subscriptions being needed to get a dribble of cards is just moronic.
>They had extremely high representation in those shit roadoftheking pie charts for OCG
the difference between 20% and 60% representation is fricking massive moron
>People are insanely overreacting to both Splight and Tear
They have completely overtaken the OCG meta without the help of a banlist to hit previous stuff. They have the tournament results to prove they are broken.
Are @ignisters fun to play?
I've encountered them a few times but never really bothered to look deeper into the deck.
How do they fare against the meta?
Soul Absorption Gren Maju can probably do the trick, unless you specifically want them to suffer from the LP differential. Chain banish Necrofaces to destroy their deck, optionally normal summon one so that you recover everything afterwards.
It pisses me off that all of the zombie tuner handtraps are UR. They don't want to risk losing money on the chance that the other ones, like Ghost Sister, might catch on and be a cheap meta craft card.
Sacred Beasts regularly get above 15k LP with their trap that heals you every time the opponent summons.
Aromages actually have healing as a primary mechanic but they're pretty bad I think. They do things every time you heal, and also have continuous effects that are active as long as your LP is higher than the opponent's.
Apparently, Petingcessoeur starts a chain in the hand when you do her "special summon from hand if you have no monsters in your GY" effect. This is literally the same kind of effect Cyber Dragon has and I know Cyber Dragon doesn't start a chain. This seems incorrect to me.
It literally says "You can use the following effects". Its summon is an activated effect. Effects start chains. Cyber Dragon however is a summoning condition for an inherent summon so it does not start a chain.
It's like how summoning a contact fusion does not start a chain, but using an effect to conduct a fusion summon does start a chain.
It should be enough for the core of the standard deck. That is the cards that make that deck the deck that it is. You might not be able to make it at 100% full power though, but you can find budget replacements for the expensive staple cards and still find success.
Of course it is. Most of the tcg/ocg players have already quit and the ones left remaining are probably playing shit like Swordsoulless and Double Penetration Enthusiast.
If they keep not releasing more often, it will.
And if this is how they want to do their business, I hope it dies then. Not even asking much, just one or two weeks release some filler like mates or accessories, but they couldn't even do that. Not even a gate per two weeks.
If Konami keeps mishandling this game like Bandai keeps mishandling Digimon, of course it's going to die.
thats the stupid thing, if they had a proper team behind it and actually got the cardpool up to date and released gates in a more timely fashion at the bare minimum, it'd be much more of a hit
but instead its
HEY
DO YOU WANT 10 MASTER PACKS AND 1X INFINITE IMPERM?
>HEY
>DO YOU WANT 10 MASTER PACKS AND 1X INFINITE IMPERM?
I do, though
Konamis been mishandling this game since its inception and its been even worse than this before, and yet it still lives somehow. The power of brand recognition runs strong still to this day.
/v/ros...
Tired of seeing these stats comprising of only stream but I wonder were the game will plateau at in the end as a whole.
The highest this game had total was close to 11 mil apparently, but the new pack release in seven-ish days should cause a small spark of life before evening out again or dropping more due to adventure lol
how do you even get an accurate grasp of total numbers?
I agree steamcharts aren't the whole picture but it seems like a ballache to grab numbers from every console + pc and any non-steam numbers.
To be fair I used to play PC only until mobile came out, now I use that mostly
Yugiboomers were right all along
Yugi vs Kaiba > Nugioh
GOAT > Nugioh
Reaper > Nugioh
Edison > Nugioh
Legendary six samurai cancer = Nugioh
Dragon ruler and spellbook cancer = Nugioh
HAT > Nugioh
Burning abyss format > Nugioh
Zoodiac cancer = Nugioh
Day 1 of MR4 > Nugioh
Cope trannies, the game is shit now
I suppose this happens to most released, but it was indeed a considerable drop, what I think happened is that, when Master Duel came out, a lot of people who liked YGO at some point before decided to download it, even if only for the sake of nostalgia, and when they saw how YGO now is completely different from when they first got into it all those years back, they gave up on it because it got overwhelming to them, the people that stayed are mostly the ones that already played YGO regularly to begin with.
No what happens is there's just not enough content. That's just straight up it
People game back. Maybe some got hard filtered but a lot stuck with the game (it still was reaching like 50k daily in May) but they're just too slow with the releases
There's nothing to get excited for. Like no shit the game is reaching peak dead when the only thing we've had in the last month was Exosisters (without the cards that make them good)
I haven't played the game in several days despite really enjoying it. Why? Because I only need to do my dailies once every 3 days and then I can just log it. I'm not missing anything because there's nothing going on beyond ranking up with the same decks I've been ranking up with for months
It literally is just that simple. More cards, more updates, more things to do = more players.
Also the battlepass lasting for two months, if you aren't a shitter you can reach level 100 early leaving you with nothing to work toward for 40+ days.
duel links numbers
That's a lot better than it was. Shit is like 13k during weekdays
Konami is moronic as frick. They could release new packs every two weeks or so but they're idiots who would rather let the game die.
Interest dying
Threads dying
No proper banlist
No custom formats for rooms even though even boomer cards are UR
Shoestring budget
Its over
They should make Master Duel only cards. That would spark some intrest again.
Cute legs
Yes. By now all the people who returned to the game through Master Duel have remembered how frustrating and shitty it is and the lack of action on banlists and card packs has driven away hardcore players so the only people that remain are the same contingent of diehard autistic neckbeards playing it in real life.
>Played it months ago, I quit the real game for a long time (a bit before links came out)
>Opponents negate everything you can do in your turn.
>Opponents keep summoning during ages.
>Archetypes are now based on searching and recycling.
>Cards which have multiple effects depending on where they go.
At least when I played Lightsworns I knew I had to balance out for cards that would be wasted if they went to the GY, this is madness.
>Is the game fricking doomed?
I'm a noob (meaning I didn't play OGC/TGC) but yeah, it was obvious from the start.
90% of the people only watched Yugi's saga (myself included) so it's no surprise that no one like the current meta of Syncro/XYZ/Link infinite summon negate boards.
I mean I'm willing to bet only Asians/SEA players remain active
xyz are fun
links are cringe
synchros are cringe
Cope Yuma game peaked during early syncro days, the early XYZ meta was pure garbage!!!
True. Also it's funny that you just ignored pends exist.
cope, links are fun, pendulum are cringe, xyz and syncros are ok
Synchro's were the last mechanical to have any semblance of actual balance in terms of how the summoning mechanic worked.
White>Black
until chinksword arribed
HEY HOW ABOUT IF YOU POP OUT TUNERS OUT OF FRICKING THIN AIR SO YOU DONT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT GARNETS WHEN NECKBUILDING
lol
>Ritual, Fusion and XYZ: I use my materials to summon my boss monster
>Synchro: I'M SYNCHROOOONING
Having to add thing up exactly and make sure you don't have too many or too few tuners requires more thing (in terms of being a summoning concept) than "lol, two of the same level"
requires more thinking*
lol
lmao
See? You have made two Lvl 1 words. An Xyz right there.
>summon monster
>it summons tuner of appropriate level for free
Wow. Impressive. And I'm sure all those fusion decks put deep and careful thought into making sure they have the appropriate fusion materials in their deck and don't just throw all the good monsters of the archetype in their deck instead.
I'm talking about the mechanic itself. Every mechanic stops being balance when card effects do all the work for you.
We all know that the mechanic doesn't actually matter when Konami does everything in their power to make sure that it can be skirted around as easily as possible. In fact I'd say that Sychros were the start of the slippery slope towards nugioh since normal summoning a monster and hoping it survives so you can normal summon a tuner next turn was obviously never going to be a viable strategy.
I like nugioh though, so whatever. But Konami definitely goes too far a lot of the time.
Even so, Xyz and Links are still easier to summon (i.e. require less thinking). There is a reason they have dominated over Synchros and Fusions, especially in terms of splashabilty, ever since they were released.
>There is a reason they have dominated over Synchros and Fusions
Because Konami designs new cards around the new things being used so they can sell the new cards that are being advertised in the anime.
Now that we're out of the link era we see a lot more variety in the color of extra deck cards the popular decks use.
Super generic links existing as a holdover from MR4 are still a problem but it's not like generic Sychros and even Fusions aren't shitting up the meta as well.
synchrobabs as delusional as ever
>t. simpleminded player
t. someone who actually analyzes the way game mechanics actually interact with other mechanics instead of going "haha me know basic math me summon white card 15 times per turn me good yugioh player :)" like most synchrobabs
>analyzes the way game mechanics actually interact with other mechanic
Did you even read the post you were replying to? How does that in any way have relevance to the question of what was the last mechanic to have any amount of inherent balance (before the game sped up and every mechanic became easy to accomplish)?
Because it doesn't have any inherit balance dimwit, it is literally asking to be broken.
>xyz
>use x monsters on the field to summon new monster from the extra deck
>link
>use x monsters on the field to summon new monster from the extra deck
>synchro
>use x monsters on the field to summon new monster from the extra deck
No it's all different because I need tuners, there's too many level 4 monsters that special summon themselves for free, and Links may as well not have requirements
Yeah man, Time Thief Redoer and Bagooska are absolutely dominating the meta.
There is no point in replying to be if you are going to be so disingenuous as to suggest having any two monsters on the field is equally as "challenging" as a concept as having the monsters levels add up to a specific value and making sure you have enough but not too many tuners included.
True, having 2 monsters of the same level is substantially more difficult.
There are more link monsters than link 2s. And for xyz vs synchro you actually need specific levels for xyz monsters while baronne can be summoned with two level 5's, a 2 and an 8, a 3 and a 7, etc.
And you're still ignoring the fact that none of this fricking matters a single bit because Konami shits out cards that let you ignore the summoning mechanics and do them essentially for free.
Just look at the hot new deck that everyone is playing and tell me that it requires more effort or is more fair, or less generic because it uses synchro monsters.
At the end of the day the only real difference is the color of the card.
>And for xyz vs synchro you actually need specific levels for xyz monsters while baronne can be summoned with two level 5's, a 2 and an 8, a 3 and a 7, etc.
You again didn't understand my post. I said that synchros were the last mechanic that had some decent degree involved within the mechanic. You are bringing up a modern day synchro, which is irrelevant, because I never said there are no synchros that are braindead to bring out. Every single mechanic now (ritual and fusion included) are at the point (and have been for a while) that cards are designed to make the strategy aspect innate to any of the mechanics moot (if there ever was any; I would argue Xyz and especially Links never did; although Links in MR4 had the thinking moved into arrow placement). But Fusion, Ritual, and Synchro I argue at least at some point in their history didn't have easy work arounds (especially generically) and you actually had to do a little thinking about performing those summons.
>And you're still ignoring the fact that none of this fricking matters a single bit because Konami shits out cards that let you ignore the summoning mechanics and do them essentially for free.
As I have mentioned, that is irrelavant to what I am talking about
>Just look at the hot new deck that everyone is playing and tell me that it requires more effort or is more fair, or less generic because it uses synchro monsters.
Again, irrelevant. (although I will say that in terms of splashablity, Synchro and Fusion in general lags behind Xyz and Link; of course, there are specific monster exceptions)
>You are bringing up a modern day synchro, which is irrelevant
Shut the frick up Black person, it's no use if you only talking about old days synchro because we're not living in the past.
But that is the topic I brought up, so why did you reply to me then?
This post is nearly undecipherable because of all the parenthesis. What are you even trying to say now?
Anon, it's just like Yugioh cards. Read slowly. I believe in you. If parenthesis hurt your brain even so, just skip over them.
It's not my job to figure out what message you are trying to convey, if you need to use 3 parenthesis per sentence consider rewriting your post in a different way to express all that information in a more direct way.
>It's not my job to figure out what message
This is code for "I don't want to bother reading". If you are literally so moronic that you can't manage to read a sentence with a parenthesis in it, just skip over the parentheses. The gist is the same. Surely you can manage that.
Not my point. Write better.
>Not my point.
Your "point" was the text was "undecipherable" because there was parentheses. So how is that not your point?
Are you new? You are being baited.
My point is that you should write better, I already explained it.
That isn't what you said in
. You are shifting the goalpost.
Maybe. But there is a decent chance he is actually a moronic zoomer with no attention span.
That post wasn't an argument, it was a question. In the following post I argued that you should rewrite your sentences instead of relying on too many parenthesis, but then you got pissy and started strawmaning me instead. Is everything clear now?
>it was a question
A question that you only had because you literally wouldn't read the plain English text, not because the text was undecipherable. Especially not undecipherable due to the parentheses of all things. Furthermore, you're question was asking 'What does the post say?", and I replied with a method where you could get that answer - The method being that you can ignore the parentheses if for some reason parentheses scare you. If you really were aiming to understand what the post says as your question would suggest, you did you not accept that answer and instead turn this into a "Actually, I wasn't asking you to make me understand the post. I actually just want to say you write bad."
>I argued that you should rewrite your sentences instead of relying on too many parenthesis
You only argued that because you didn't read the post. The parentheses were additive, not corporeal to the point of the sentences. The sentences were perfectly readable with or without the parentheses, but you seem too lazy to read it in either way.
>started strawmaning me instead
No, that is what you did. You asked me to make the meaning clear, I provide the method to do so, and you did not accept that. And someone else now explained my point more briefly and you still haven't a reply to my original comment. Why is that? Maybe you never intended to give a legit response at all, hmm?
Stop replying to bait. It's a waste of time and just fills the thread with pointless filler.
I asked you to explain yourself better from the very beginning. I know how to read, I read your post, that's why I know it is written like SHIT and asked you to write it again. I cannot make this any more clear. I would have argued with you about whatever stupid idea you had but you chose to get defensive instead. I am sorry I said anything to begin with, next time I'll just simply put words in your mouth and make up random strawmans instead of requesting a better explanation.
>I know how to read
Then explain what part of the sentences you didn't comprehend, and why you claimed that the sentences were "relying" on parentheses. If you read it, you would see the parentheses were additive. Explain.
Anon, for the last time. He's not going to do any of that. He is just baiting. You were never ever going to get an actual reply to your post from him. The only reason he replied was to say you wrote too much and get (you)s from you. Even if you stopped arguing with him and did what he said, he'd either not respond or just say your post still doesn't make sense. Stop feeding.
Yeah dude, that's how I start all my best baits, by asking the other person to elaborate. Fricking moron, I don't even know I bother trying to engage honestly.
Saying that you can't understand a sentence because it has parentheses in it is really really transparent bait. The stupid thing is the guy you are arguing with didn't see that. If at least you just left it at indecipherable, I could maybe think your were exaggerating a bit, but actually had issues reading it, since he did have some unclear text like forgetting "of skill" in the phrase "ad some decent degree involved". But you ignored the actually legitimate stuff you could take issue with in his post and went with parentheses. It's super obvious bait.
I purposefully kept my first posts shorts because I did not want to get into an autistic argument over grammar, I just wanted him to explain himself again instead of derailing the discussion. Anyway I don't fricking care anymore, synchros suck and ruined the game.
Okay, I'll bite. What was said in
is what I mean, although I will add that not only were XYZ and Links less skillful at the start in terms of their inherent mechanics, the game had progressed to the point that methods of working around even the natural "difficulty" of those summoning methods was abundant.
So know you understand what my post means, are you going to reply to the post's content now? Or are you going to not respond?
How exactly is that skillful? In practice synchro decks have multiple synchros for all the levels they can realistically access, sure you need to draw the right cards but that's luck, not a skill. Synchros having levels is also a huge mechanical flaw, it enables degenerate shit like synchro climbing, unlike XYZs which need special effects to do the same.
>that's luck, not a skill
It is harder to deck build having a good level distribution of non-tuners and tuner, as well has having not too many or too few tuners, in your deck than it is to ensure you have enough monsters of a certain type. Thinking ahead in the duel is also more delicate in the Synchro scenario I would also argue. Furthermore, you will never encounter a scenario like in Synchro were you have 1 non-tuner and two tuners and due to the current status of your extra deck, you can't synchro summon anything even though if one of those tuners had been a non-tuner instead, you would have been able to summon something. There is no analogous situation with Xyz. The closest thing is just not having two monsters of the same level, but that is more of a parallel with only having tuners or only having non-tuners available to you. Again, I say all of these moreso thinking from the early XYZ perspective. Nowadays, there are so many card effect tools you can use to fix your hand or board to do something.
>Synchros having levels is also a huge mechanical flaw, it enables degenerate shit like synchro climbing, unlike XYZs which need special effects to do the same.
In terms of leveraging your current Extra Deck monster to get a stronger one, sure. But getting a perfectly appropriate strong/useful XYZ monster historically had been easier than getting a synchro. Or to say it another way, more could go wrong with the Synchro summon than the Xyz summon.
>It is harder to deck build having a good level distribution of non-tuners and tuner, as well has having not too many or too few tuners, in your deck than it is to ensure you have enough monsters of a certain type.
You could argue the same thing about XYZ decks needing high level monsters to go into higher ranks. A deck that needs multiple level 7/8/9 etc on the field just to work is gonna be way more bricky and inconsistent. In fact it is arguably better to use synchro engines like virtual world if you want to consistently be able to access those kinds on ranks. Also early on a lot of decks didn't fully commit to XYZs and had them more as a back up plan, carrying a lot of monsters of different ranks since you also didn't have 15 rank 4 stables to go into every game.
His point was that the mechanism of Synchro summoning used to not have an easy workaround and did at some point require a arbitrary modicum of decent skill. He also claims that Synchro was the last mechanic where that could be said to have been true, and that XYZ and Links were less skillful to use from the get-go. That is what he claims anyway.
>undecipherable because of all the parenthesis
This is what modern day attention spans cause. Holy shit, I don't agree with what he is saying, but if you can't read and understand that text - because of the parentheses no less - you unironically have a reading comprehension problem.
When XYZ were first released barely anyone played them because the Synchros were more powerful. Cope harder.
But that isn't an issue of the mechanic needing skill. That is an issue of the result of the mechanic, the XYZ monster, not being worth the effort at the time. That is a completely different issue from what I am talking about. At the very beginning of the XYZ era, it was easier to summon XYZ monsters than Synchros. Because the mechanic needed way less inherent "skill" or "setup". You didn't see as many Xyz summons, not because it was equally as difficulty or more difficult than Synchro summoning, you saw less because even though it was easier, it wasn't worth doing as much as Synchros at the start.
Xyz monsters were weaker than synchro monsters. That was the trade off, either something easier to summon or something more powerful. They had to butcher synchros with bans before people stopped using them.
xyz quickly outperformed synchros after release because assembling a tuner + nontuner was always bricker than building an entire deck of lvl 4s that summon themselves. Xyz were supposed to have ammo in the form of overlay units except their effects were so busted that even if they only used them once they were way more useful than synchros were. There were a lot more broken xyz than there were broken synchros.
Did you even play back then? That's not what happened. Konami had to force people into xyz with bans. Stop making shit up.
>Xyz monsters were weaker than synchro monsters. That was the trade off, either something easier to summon or something more powerful.
And that is why I liked them better at first. Then they got to be as strong or even stronger than Synchro and Fusion monsters, with a way easier summoning condition, and I was dissatisfied with that. Links were the same, but as I mentioned in some comment earlier, Links in MR4 at least had some thinking need in terms of link arrow positioning, which affected your subsequent Extra Deck summoning options and strategies, although with the revision, the need for that "skill" has been mitigated in a lot of cases.
>as strong as
lol more like synchros being banned out of existence so that xyz was the only option left
That sped up the adoption of Xyz, but eventually, the Xyz did get to be as strong as, or stronger, than Synchros, on top of being easier to summon.
yeah that's because konami just stopped supporting synchros. it had nothing to do with xyz as a mechanic being broken.
xyz are dishonest skilless generic Black person homosexual shit and almost as bad as links
Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, xyz. This is all the game needed. You have Rituals which are the "special effect needed to summon something from your hand" trade off for something of high power.
Then you have fusions which is similar but always in the extra deck and benefits from having options from hand and field.
Then you have synhcros which is specific to tuners, then xyz as the broadest option.
Ideally the power of the cards should be determined by their ease of summon, meaning Xyzs should be the weakest, and rituals the strongest. But this is usually not the case.
Everything else is fricking weird or pointless. Links are just annoying chained tribute summoning with a now pointless arrow mechanic. Pendulums are some autistic bullshit that fundamentally changes how summons work.
In part I'm glad I only have to duel once or twice per day to do my dailies so I can take the game as casual as I want, but on the other hand I wish there was more stuff to do, we're approaching the half-year anniversary and we're still stuck with nothing but Ranked and the monthly event. For a card game with over 10k cards available, they sure make no effort to make people build varied decks for modes with different and unique restrictions.
I think what bothers me the most is the complete radio silence, we get no notifications whatsoever for way too long, no sneak peaks, no info on future content or cards, nothing, we just have to patiently wait for an update that might have content we might not even see for months, such as the many datamined events and placeholder bundles and structure decks.
I wanted to get back into Yugioh but after checking it out it seems like things have gotten pretty crazy.
It seems like people use the same cards in everything.
most metas revolve around the exact same decks using the exact same cards and strategies and most duels are decided at the coinflip.
That's just an absolute shame because I really enjoyed the game when I last played it. Pretty much most of the duels I watched were lame.
Nah, don't listen to that anon. Yes, there are staples but there is a huge variety of decks and even staples. Bo1 format is not how the game should be played but it also allows weaker/unusual decks to get wins against stronger decks because even the best deck can't plan for everything or just have a bad opening hand. The cost of a deck is not related to its performance so you can make a really strong meta deck right from the start. beware that this is a F2P game, so you either have to pay with your time or your money. You get a lot of currency at the start though, enough to comfortly build at least one decent deck. It's also really easy to create extra accounts so you can keep building decks that way.
I think you're right anon, the f2p nature of the game does make it really easy for there to be a lot of shitters making meta decks and stuff, I imagine that the real life game is way more different.
Considering that I just came back to the game after more than a decade, I don't think you can take my post seriously.
>Bo1 format
>When each duel lasts at least 10 min.
>When anime is BO1
I don't want to play 30 min summon/negate fests with the same autistic slant eyes
It doesn't really help that most unique decks are just weaker than meta decks. Meta decks are meta for a reason.
>It seems like people use the same cards in everything.
Competitive play has always been this way
Every deck is either 'you can only play this card with its mediocre effect if your entire deck is the archetype its from also discard a card' or 'this card special summons itself no matter what also draw your extender plus two hand traps'
Then the good decks have the least creative win conditions of all time
Every new card archetype has 2 or more of the following : Normal/Special summon effect + GY effect + active effect .
Normal/Special summon effect either tutor's something directly from deck/gy or allows you to keep special summoning from your hand/gy
GY effect goes from: Reviving itself or other monster, tutor/summon out of the deck directly , negate something, destroy something, draw a card.
Active effects vary but current meta monster are Q.E.: Negates/Negate+Destroy or something that banishes at no real cost.
The problem is the "costs" of said actions, or how trivial they are to ignore.
Yeah it seems a little wonky to me that someone will just keep summoning things over and over. I don't fully understand it myself but it seeing a dude summon like ten different exosister by recycling the one they just summoned just for some effect seems wrong to me.
lol is this thread really crying about exosisters now, that's a new low
>Is the strongest pot card
Pot of weed
Sex dog
>What nice day to duel
>Swordsoul
>Swordsoul
>Swordsoul
>Swordsoul
>Swordsoul
Token Collector is your friend
Those morons are starting to run Vanity's emptyness
Swordsoul players will mysteriously disappear from you queue to be replaced by Eldlich.
Expected in the first days of ranked, everyone will tryhard to reach D1 as fast as possible, either you join them, pack Token Collector or wait half a month.
>losing to swordsoul
Did you brick every single duel? Or by the looks of it, I guess you're just surrendering? I rarely have an issue with them unless I brick AND they have great draws, usually they just summon that one red homosexual and maybe a baronne neither of which are very intimidating.
>usually they just summon that one red homosexual and maybe a baronne neither of which are very intimidating
Thats because most swordsoul players have no idea how to play the deck, so they just go for the only combo they know every game.
A lot of them also play the shitty DPE version.
Against an actually decent build with a halfway competent pilot, the deck is very hard to beat.
I do find it hilarious how quickly Drytroons and EldBlack folk became a non-entity the second they stopped being Tier 1 decks. It just goes to show that any Tier 1 Black person who bullshits about playing the decks because they're fun and not because they're easy wins is a fricking liar.
>EldBlack folk
If only....
>Drytroons
That's me
I'm still playing Zombie World Eldlich since the release of this game.
I've been stuck with Zombie World since the 5D's era and it's the only play style that's perfect for me, Eldlich was a good addition since Zombie World rarely had back row.
Eldlich is going to unfort stand the test of time..
I still play Eldlich, in fact I've been slowly branching out from pure Eldlich with broken staples to slotting in Madlich and other zombies because they're fun and I feel as if I can actually benefit more from them than certain staples now that I understand the deck better.
Here's something you should play instead.
I did but it doesn't appear to be doing anything, have you tried activating your wall socket's effect?
Skill drain does nothing versus player actions
It does cuck your Appliancer Socketroll though.
>60 card deck
Still doesn't stop the command for you to stick a fork into an real life electric socket.
I have the United Kingdom field spell in play so our sockets are grounded and ineffective when not switched on. I also have the fuse continuous trap on the field that the UK field spell searches for, which causes the power to cut when the voltage spikes reducing my lifepoint damage to a mere 100 points and negating all future real life electric socket damage.
It's not like Drytron or Eldlich got particularly weaker, they just aren't the new hot stuff. Block Dragon is still at 3 but you see more Exosister in Diamond than Adamancipator.
Eldlich got significantly weaker, Guardian is a nothingburger of a card that they'd never run if they had Conquistador at 3. They're much more reliant on floodgates than before because they don't have as easy disruption access.
People have stopped playing Eldlich by that banlist change already. Compared to February there was barely any Eldlich around.
Eldlich didn't get significantly weaker, it literally became the most popular tournament deck.
>I do find it hilarious how quickly Drytroons and EldBlack folk became a non-entity the second they stopped being Tier 1 decks
Absolutely most moronic post I've ever read in this thread.
shut the frick up you insignificant little shit
You are never going to convince me that your cancer deck is anything but tier 1.
i started playing drytron cuz they were meta, and im still playing them because its fun
kaijus/superpoly/droplet/skilldrain/darkrulernomore are your friends
>super poly
What exactly do you super poly into? All their monsters are Wyrms.
Mud dragon you fricken Black person
Doesn't work, they're all wyrms and Baronne is Wind.
>losing to ladder Swordsoul
Actual turbo shitter
Those homosexuals will open with all 3 Tenyi names then procede to do nothing but reveal them for Mo Ye and discard them for Longyuan and do the godawful Baronne Chixiao board
dude of course you're gonna lose if you keep running Abaki turbo
wanna change places? i seen nothing but lirisuc tri brigrade
Yes, you can't build your deck around both combo deck and floodgate deck at the same time because of the blind bof1 format.
ENTER
on god
>thinks he will get to use his turtle
anon, it's already too late if final sigma is OUT, i'm afraid there won't be another turn to use that cute turtle...
Anon, Final Sigma isn't used as a wall, it's used as a closer.
It's not a Next Turn monster, it's there to finish the job with any damage dealt against your monster done 2x, which can also be doubled by their in archetype card's effect to double their damage, and their archetype's equip which adds 1000 damage, so imagine
3000 + 1000 = 4000 x 2 = 8000 x 2
=
16000 Damage in Total
And it's immune to any card effect from the opponent.
FREE HER
>hfw I show her my deck
>Deck that is full of cards that are useful in the hand only.
I wanna play penguins but I can't justify the crafting cost
I hope there will be a penguin secret pack
Penguins are legacy, anon. You just roll the tickets you get from duels until you have the URs and SRs you need, then you craft the bulk of penguins which are only Cs and Rs.
Konami found a way to make money and is by not making secret packs for new cards.
It really does suck that everyone is forced to break out the credit card to even have a chance to compete with the paypig penguin players dominating Diamond.
Custom banlist rooms when?
>OCG banned Halq and VFD
>TCG banned Auroradon and VFD
>MD
Any amount of player loss this game experiences is deserved
Where are the Ash Blossom lewds?
>The last thing you see
>the last thing crooked cook sees
>fanart
Waifu of the Underworld!
on and off playing now.
gold and diamond rank is now meta vs meta.
Like 80% of gold players currently are the platinum players from last season. You always have to consider the tier you're in to be one tier higher after season resets.
My opponent summoned Rhongo with 8 materials so now I'm just going to wait until my timer runs out.
Pretty sure at 8 materials he gains the ability to stop you from surrendering or ending your turn anyway.
host room or i die
Don't worry, you won't be dead long.
Hope you drop some good loot
you host or you die
HOST ROOM
HOST ROOM
why even play albion in branded despia? he just kinda sucks
It should be legal to publically excecute Eldlich players and confiscate all their asserts.
Same with tribrigade and soulsword and whatever else is fricking meta right now.
Yeah, but cards gained that way cannot be dismantled so you'll just be left with a bunch of floodgates.
I'm been converting all gems and CP into Junk Speeder packs and crafting Junk Speeder. Been doing this for like a week. Still no royal rare Junk Speeder.
When I finally do get it I will just quit.
That's my only goal.
I tried to activate Lost Wind on a normal summon.
how to fix this shit game:
>extra deck cards now have a weight value. Baron costs 10 extra deck slots now
Hire me Konami
Just ban all links and many generic extra deck monsters.
I feel that the upcoming classic event will ban all the extra deck
They already had people like you working on games like Dark Duel Story and The Sacred Cards.
a cyberstein bot
great
>eldlich player struggles to attack an empty field
Nice to see their brain firing all cylinders on max
I really am back in gold
he's thinking
How do I be a good captain for these funny pirates?
make sure you have plunders in hand for costs. at least one since all the boats add another after their effect resolves.
remember that the equip isn't just for cheating an ed monster out. i find it extremely useful if you can get moerk out properly and just equip it from hand since it'll have materials for protection.
and finally cry when your opponent is playing all wind/earth
get lucky draws or brick and lose
plunder will sack or brick there's no middleground
Nice. I wish Plunder had something like Awakening of the Sacred beasts that gives you bonuses for having each of the ships out. It's so cool when you get them all and it's like "the gang's all here".
>Black personon player
>thinking
good one
Is there a way other than youtube to play the music of your own fricking field.
I'm sick of hearing the forest bc no homie picks a field other than that.
I know people hate fun but at least let me hear something pleasant while I get rammed by a n*meron player kaiju'ing my shit and spamming field searches all day
>reddit patroll
yike
wtf I hate that deck now
glad i could enlighten you
How is that dueling going?
>open with reload or magical mallet
>use one of them
>end up with another
>use it and end up drawing all my copies
>end up with one of them at the end and can't do anything
This has happened in like 6 duels
4 yesterday and 2 today
>play a bad card.
>get mad because I draw said bad card.
Why are people like this.
I'm not mad about it
I'm just saying what happened
I wasn't going to win the duel anyway since I was playing a suicide deck
Really what are the chances I end up drawing every copy of reload and magical mallet in my deck?
Nice and slow.
>Spiral
>No goddess
This is why mystic Mine should exist.
Mystic israelite player detected
Other than the last, those are some decent hands.
>5 games
>declare attack on enemy monsters 3/5
It'll come back on the 11th when we finally get cards that actually matter in the metagame.
Not if they release a banlist that's tailored to the Best of 1 format rather than ripping off a Best of 3 format list and then applying how a completely different banlist works to how this works (In Duel Links, you can only have 2 cards on the "at 2" list, but Master Duel is merely two copies of that specific card).
Mileage may vary on how likely you think that is, though. Personally, I predict a slaughter list.
>ripping off a Best of 3 format list
They didn't even ripoff a specific OCG banlist, they mixed and matched a few 2021 OCG banlists in the most dogshit way possible.
We have Salamangreat Circle at 3, Oviraptor at 2, Zeus at 1 and Mine at 0, all of which happened on the October 2021 OCG banlist. But we don't have VFD at 0, Gamma at 1 and Crossout at 2, which are from the same October 2021 banlist.
It's a complete clown format.
Would a good banlist save the game?
It would have to be a VERY good and VERY big list to save this game.
Master Duel needs stuff to do. There shouldn't be any (downtime) at all. Even the very basic thing of "let players use the shitty banlists from previous events for their duel rooms" isn't available. This is a sim but you can only play one format except for like a week and a half a month where you play this other one for rewards.
They should know this coming from Duel Links. That game vomits shitty events at you constantly, you can barely open the game without being bombarded with annoying event dialogue and popups. The director of this game is the same one from Duel Links even. I have no idea why they keep this game in this abandoned state.
>The director of this game is the same one from Duel Links even. I have no idea why they keep this game in this abandoned state.
You wanna know the real reason why MD is abandoned? Because the surprising success of the game on launch actually LOST Konami money. Duel Links is such a massive cash cow for them that pulling whales away from it, even if it's from another Konami game, is a huge loss. Konami immediately put MD on a skeleton crew the moment the numbers came in. They fricked up with the games microtransactions (not greedy enough) so they are doing everything they can to make the game suck to get players back on DL.
You realize that Konami releases quarterly financial reports that list where their money is coming from and you don't need to make things up, right?
3 things would cause the game to skyrocket again
>A good best of 1 banlist for ranked ladder
>Expand the hosted rooms feature to have a browser
>With games hosted in said browser, you can create your own custom banlists
Yugiboomers can play their nostalgic yugioh.
Fans of certain styles of events can refine better lists.
Goat, Edison, and others can be played in Master Duel.
And ladder will be less of a mess.
Also something Konami might go for if brought up because you go through their servers to host online, so they'd see all the lists. Extremely popular lists become used for events or official IRL alt formats. Cards frequently hit plus Diamond and some Plat level data can help inform banlist decisions.
This would be the only thing that would get me to play, I won't ever play yugioh without using custom banlists.
It needs sidedecking
This
They have to literally release any fricking content on a more frequent basis. Like literally anything.
There was no banlist and the Exosister set was pure shit so this is the 3rd season in a row where ranked is the exact same and there is nothing to do in the game besides playing ranked.
I'm having fun with my Blue Eyes
between TCG and OCG Master duel already has the better banlist, th eotheres balance around selling more cards
>very fun dragon
>dpe
>halq
>verte
>rongo
>"""good""
Weak bait.
damn bros should i just take the darklords out of my despia deck? i can fill the empty spots with nu eccelsia, albaz and the frightfur engine
>Solemn Judgment isn't once per turn
>once per turn
>1999
>6k HP
Doesn't matter how much LP you have if your opponent doesn't get to play.
Perfect starting hand 🙂
it can work but you have to plau it smart
That's what you get for having half your deck be hand traps and other such garbage
That's a perfect hand for Prank-Kids though
What's the current best antifun deck? I only play those.
You shouldn't have transitioned.
The HRT is destroying your ability to think logically.
>Hmm which one is cucked, the homosexual playing the fotm netdeck or the guy capitalising on the most fun concept in video games: ruining other people's fun
Yeah, go back to r*ddit, kid.
>the most fun concept in video games: ruining other people's fun
That's called being a Black person.
then call me the blackest Black person on planet earth, brainless cattle subhumans like you will never understand that there is no point playing online if you're not actively fricking with someone else
I pity you.
au contraire, you're the slackjawed homosexual here
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Sorry to hear you got groomed into being a troony at such a young age.
Any deck that uses opponent's monsters for material, super poly decks or zombie world.
Those are a million times more fun to fight than stun decks. The only fun to be found vs stun decks isn't from the gameplay itself but when you manage to out their floodgates and get the satisfaction of giving someone using that deck a loss.
As an Earth Machines player going up against Cyber Dragons is almost always an instant scoop for me if I can't OTK since every turn my board gets wiped with no way to stop it because for some reason Konami thinks having non-respondable ways to use opponent's monsters for material is good design.
Kaijus are okay though, at least they give your opponent a card
>opponent wins cointoss
>chooses to go first
>it's a numeron/ inferno tempest deck
i can't fathom strategies this advanced
If you're choosing to go first or second and you pick too late, the game picks for you.
Numeron player does this even in Diamond one,
>I summon a token on both our field on the first turn
>It is a variant that summons Numeron dragon instead and destroys the token
>Get stopped cold by battle fader
>He gets Kaiju'ed and OTK'ed instead by tokens.
*second turn
Man, I love drytron but some fricking times
Whops forgot pic
you deserve it babe
>/mdg/ died before us
SPYRAL and Orcust should have all their cards unbanned and unlimited
Poor child, they never let her be.
Stopped playing MD some time after I recorded these.
>jewtube
>didnt hit FF button
frick off
You can speed it up in YT.
Someone's got ADD.
vs ogdodododoic, spends half a century summoning only to end on DPE, should i OTK this ? you decide his fate
God i hate heroes, they have every single kind of support under the sun, they take 40 minutes to leave a mediocre board. The only good card in their shit deck is forbidden droplet. That stupid dick pic enjoyer ruinded meta for everybody.
And the second you give them a cute turtle they will scoop. If you play heroes know i feel nothing but contempt for you
Shinto
atmospheric
kino
Would people like Xys if we delete zoodiacs from collective memories?
Before Zoodiacs there were others, well, some were banned like Zenmighty.
No, only the most damaged individuals even remember Zoodiacs at their worst, Zeus is the source of plenty of modern "wtf you can't just rank up for free" asspain by himself
I actually really came to like Xyz but even I have to admit that this summoning mechanic breaks its own rules in the dumbest ways way way more than the other summoning mechanics. I think maybe Ritual is the only one that breaks its rules harder, but Ritual has kind of evolved into this amalgamation of various different requirements to summon main deck monsters because the original intent was so shit, while Xyz went
>durrr you stack these monsters for free does not start a chain
And I'm not even talking about Rank-Up magics, because that at least requires you to have that card and technically neg yourself. Downerd Magician is stupid, too.
All modern extra deck summons ignore the original design philosophy of the game. The summoning methods themselves are just window dressing where some of them pretend to take effort even though modern cards allow you to bullshit them out for free.
>ignore the original design philosophy of the game
That's a good thing.
The original design philosophy is pretty damn slow and nonsensical. This is probably why defense position became more and more like a stun mechanic than some kind of walling mechanic to play the defensive.
The special summoning rabbit hole was clearly a sign that they were dissatisfied with the pace of the game, but I'm not sure why they didn't do shit like make Tribute summoning separate from normal summoning and to allow shit like tributing a high star monster to allow two normal summons or something like that.
They already had the idea of using monsters as a resource, but sort of gave up on it.
The game pretty much became "the core mechanics are bad so we use arch types that create mini games to bypass the rule". Rather than having a strong central ruleset.
Tribute summoning hardly even exists anymore.
I am definitely tired of seeing DPE every time these useless morons have a recipe fail them.
I wish they would make a genuine story or at least a fricking visual novel instead of the moronic animated text dumps
They really need to add new formats to make shit fun. Let’s have some fricking Turbo Duels
Content wise yes and even if it wasn't the OCG and TCG are on a powerceep singularity right now with card power levels going through the roof once again.
what fricks about tearalement other than their design being pure sex.
I remember something about shaddoll synergy but that can't be fricking it surely.
Ishuzu got new band-aid support that involves Exchange of spirit because she used it in the anime. Ishuzu used Earth Fairies so our now familiar friend Heralds are involved. You can now set up on the first turn even if your opponent goes first.
You mill your deck to fuse. It's all off of monster effects so they can make any Dark fusion monster pretty much. Their fusion monsters have to be killed twice to die from card effects. They can play on your turn. Afterwards they released new cards that mill 5 cards from both player's decks and shuffle cards in the graveyard back into the deck to dodge targeting effects that would stop them. All of those cards are fairies so you can send them with Herald of Orange Light as a monster negate and they'll go off, or normal summon Diviner and send one that way to get going. They can make Winda (special summon floodgate), Dragostapelia (big body monster negate), Millennium-Eyes Restrict if they use King of the Swamp on top of their own cards. Pretty hard to shut down and they get top spots in practically every tournament.
https://roadoftheking.com/ocg-2022-07-metagame-report-0/
oh so it's kind of a soup of like that mill deck konami made, herald pitching playmakers that then get used to fuse and still retain effects.
The playing on the opponents turn part sounds kind of gay but something about a soups of cards sounds kind of cool.
Might be just that I didn't play while adventure pile was the new hotness but steering away from archetypes is kind of neat.
Yeah they can make any Dark Fusion (or any fusion monster that can be made with a Dark monster) that isn't super specific, it got played with Branded for a while, there's the upcoming Grapha Fusion retrain that changes what your opponent's effect does, etc. But if you aren't playing a lot of graveyard hate it's very painful to go against.
goes with any deck that specialises in some specific zone I guess.
As long as there is some level of interaction outside of >DRNM into combo I guess it's fine
just checked that decklist, who the frick is playing spellbook striker and why.
You don't need *that* much help dumping spells surely, or is it just for the judgement and draw 2 off blue man
Some people still believe in Jowgen.
your turn bro
>Cucktoria Exterio instead of Wicked Avatar
Enjoy your Dark Ruler No More homosexual
>watches youtube videos on my other monitor my entire 8 minute timer, occasionally wigging my mouse so it doesnt surrender me
>drnm
>turbo into zeus
now what?
Tribute summons are the only honest summons. Surely nothing being added to the game within the next week or so will prove this wrong.
Is it possible to play without paying hundreds of dollars?
Master Duel yes. Cardboard? Hell fricking no.
The chances of you entering a locale hobby shop and finding some homosexual who proudly presents forbidden droplets is slim. The game is much better when you have people that build decks for fun and not metahomosexualry.
>the game is much more fun when it's pay to win
On the other hand, in Master Duel everyone is on an even playing field, so while you may not need to worry about everyone having 3x Ash blossom(75-90 dollars), there's still a reasonable chance of there being that one guy with a fully built deck worth a thousand dollars who has a big advantage over the rest.
You literally, unironically can bar the whale from playing within your circle you know?
I'm not a third-rate duelist.
Asshurt homosexuals like you are why I stopped playing Ojama lockdown.
>just don't play with people who you can't beat
All the seethe-posts in these threads suddenly make a lot more sense.
>Just don't play people who you can't beat
This is why if a games meta is just a few decks, people prefer to play the next tier below.
That's the case with most games, not just cards. Unless you're playing competitive, then its pretty standard to not use the top tier options.
>the game is much better when whales have better deck
TCGkeks everyone
Not only is it possible, the value you get from spending money is absolutely garbage. Just research (and ideally test the deck in a different sim) before you spend your gems.
>test the deck in a different sim
are you saying that master duel has a mode that lets you access every card?
No, I said a different sim. Like EDOPro, or DuelingBook if you can handle manual over automation. There is the MasterDuel Offline client someone made that lets you play with every card in the game including banned ones and adjust it to your liking, but it's of course single player only.
>There is the MasterDuel Offline client someone made that lets you play with every card in the game including banned ones and adjust it to your liking, but it's of course single player only.
I didn't know that existed. I just googled it and found the download. That sounds great and I want to try it out, but how exactly does this work? Is it a separate executable that just uses the files from the main install? Can I have this for trying out decks without messing with my Steam install so that I can still play online on my account, or does it overwrite something? Any chance the steam file could find whatever it is that you install with this and ban me?
The person who made it probably answered your questions better than I could on the page. If you're really spooked, don't use it. They can't terminate your account for using EDOPro, which does the same thing effectively.
Nah, I already downloaded it. It works great. Now I can try out decks I'm curious about on this and spend my gems less stupidly in the real thing.
Master Duel is extremely f2p friendly if you're smart with your resources, do the events, and do your dailies(requiring like 1-2 games a day). You can get a fully built top tier deck within a few days of playing. And in the long run you can get around 2 decks a month depending on how lucky you are.
For some reason spending real money on the game has absolutely terrible returns so you'd need to be an idiot or a huge whale to bother.
in masterduel it's actually more value not to spend because price of gems is so fricking abhorrent
Why were zoomers in denial about the game being a total fricking shitshow for so long? Refusal to admit that the game has actually been getting worse and for a long time?
Master Duel is a terrible representation of actual yugioh. Unless you meant specifically Master Duel in your post and not general yugioh. In that case yeah Master Duel has been getting worse because they won't update the fricking banlist. Konami could get a lot more people coming into TCG off Master Duel than they are now if they had a banlist that wasn't fricking moronic.
MD, TCG, and OCG all have clown banlists. Don't act like MD is somehow so much worse.
All trading card games are inherently a joke when it comes to balance cause none of them balance around anything except money.
MD is actually even worse than OCG by a lot, that's how bad it is. TCG is miles better with a couple of things that still need to go, but I find it pretty hilarious that MD-only players are at the point where they can't even defend their own banlist, just act like the others are as bad having never played yugioh in anything other than MD.
OCG is Tear and Splight only land, everything else got pushed out so hard it cant compete. it resembles Druler format in that way.
in MD you can still just play whatever you want and still climb to diamond, it will never be as bad as IRL because you can always scoop vs any shit matchup you want.
You don't even know that, you just read road of the king shit charts and assume that is an actual representation of the format. You don't actually play anything other than MD.
>No your sources dont count
If you think MD is bad just wait till you try playing IRL where you actually have to spend money and will get washed by even the average player at locals because they metagay even harder than MD.
Is it that bad
I put together some archetypes I liked but the rest of the decks are just filler cards worth nothing like Solemn Strikes
I don't think I have a single handtrap
>wait till you try playing IRL
I play TCG, MD babby. Not every locals is sweaty and you can absolutely play budget. What you said makes absolutely no fricking sense either. If you have to pay for cards, how can the guys at locals metagay harder than MD which is free and hands you gems like no tomorrow for whatever cards you want? I also do not give a single frick about your opinions or "sources" because you do not actually play the other formats you are talking about. The only bad thing about playing IRL is gays trying to cheat and you have to watch your opponent like a hawk. But now that auto-surrender hacks are apparently back, MD again will have a worse cheating problem.
BAN HALQ
Don't worry, OCG banned and MD gives priority to OCG bans over TCG ones.
if the link event is next then will everyone run 3 of these?
It will be the Extra Link Festival regardless
Thoughts on komoney making a Pokémon like game where you collect monsters as you go? Kind of like the plot where the original characters were stuck in a virtual world because of kaiba's foster father.
Let's be honest kids can't play yugioh anymore because it's gotten too complicated for them and rush duel will just make them feel like they're missing out on the "real" game.
Seems like a good way to get them when they're young.
>we're getting more datamined things on the 9th
>we get a glimpse of a verre, sera and ghost belle mate
How would you react, also what would be their interactions
>Verre mate
yes
I need Laundry mate but Verre is still good.
>we're getting more datamined things on the 9th
We don't really know that. Getting the Adventure selection pack on the 9th after Swordsoul pack rotates is expected. But if that patch has anything new to datamine is up in the air. They still haven't added 80% of the shit we datamined from the last big patch.
About damn time Konami, she probably is the mosrst requested mate besides god damn DMG and Kuriboh
Why is Verre so horny all the time?
Body is on permanent puberty
Logic, Rilliona saw her 3 peers fell to their lust for power and decided to fill that hole with regular lust instead….AND IT WORKED! Rilliona is the only magistus that is not currently clinically insane with god complex.
>Crowley (young Aleister) is documented in history in Trismagistus
>Aleister (old Crowley) is wiped out from all documentation by the glowies like he never existed according to card lore
>Zoroa isn't mentioned anywhere and doesn't appear in Trismagistus and his status is not known in the current storyline
what the frick did he do
Endymion not only became a furgay but also a commie. Scuffing from all history books the mentions of the individuals that could make the story of our glorious leader less glorious is par for the course. At least the thankful that this guy did not restart the calendar to the day he took control.
i don't know about doomed but me and that brat are definitely fricking
Do not have sex with yokai
Shiranui are only against evil yokai. Ash Blossom, much as she's known for pissing off people in gameplay, is a very good yokai, a loyal dog that helped out even after death.
90% of the initial playerbase dropped the get and half of what's left is bots. Unsalvageable at this point.
>half of what's left is bots
I fricking WISH they were bots
It's been nothing but c**t after c**t after c**t and none of them are capable of reading
With bots I could do my shit and just wait until the game ends within a couple minutes
No, I get nothing but morons that have to prolong the duel because a card lit up and they have to negate something that was meant to help them
Bring back the bots
Frick the players
That was a fun duel I had with an Infernoid player. Cool deck.
What will the next Extra Deck summoning mechanic even be to be simpler than Links?
>Synchro: Two Monsters, a Tuner and a Non-Tuner whose Levels add up to the level of the Synchro Monster
>Xyz: Two Monsters whose Levels are the same as the Rank of the Xyz Monster
>Link: Two Monsters
TCG/OCG is probably done with new mechanics since the game is no longer tied to any anime shows, they still make game original support for anime decks, but the game got the point of being big enough it no longer need a TV show. All the new mechanics so far have been for Rush Duel since the current shows are about Rush.
>BUY BLACKWINGS pack
>in 2022
why
it will be 2023 by the time the TCG and Master Duel see it
Because it's time to Synchro From The Deck. And who would get to do that first other than Blackwings?
Japan loves Blackwings.
Here's fujo that draws them every day
https://twitter.com/AbfBfygo
sneed is so cool.....
His name is Halq the Man and his Japanese name is Halfiber. Needlefiber is something the YGO ORG made up
>made up
It's a direct translation of the name. Hari-fiber = Needle-fiber.
>fanart of blackwings mourning over sneedlefiber
wouldn't they be happy that Steam can finally be unbanned?
>Japan loves Blackwings.
The grandson of one of Konomi’s greatest investors used to play Blackwings, that was why they used to get new support every pack. Now the same kid (must be like 19 at this point but you get the idea) switched to Galaxy Eyes and you can see it clearly.
I played irl back when Blackwings where brand new. People fricking LOVE that deck. I had friends who played it for years and only switched decks when the meta was too powercrept.
>recent packs have been filled with delicious legacy support instead of throwaway anime cards
It's been pretty great. Too bad every new reveal will take over a year for MD to get it.
>Link: Two Monsters
We can already have this with One Monster. The only way to get further than that is to do the equivalent of having a category of monster (like "tuner") than can send itself from the hand or maybe even the deck in order to extra deck summon a new card type.
>playing against swordsoul with my madolche
>he semi bricks while I brick hard with only spell cards
>beats me down to 2k health with his shit monsters
>finally get my combo going and bounce 2 of his cards
>he scoops before I do any damage
Literally why? He still could make a comeback.
SwoSouless players tend to be pretty petty like this
How do you know he could have made a comeback without seeing the cards in his hand?
Deck Master event when?
Deck Master?
https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Deck_Master
Konami confirmed a real Deck Master format but haven't done anything with it yet. The rules they mention here are extremely abusable so they'd likely have to make a looooooong banlist of cards you couldn't use as a deck master.
Ah Noah's arc rules, it could be interesting, but taking into account how long a monster lasts on the field the duels would last half a turn lol
Well you don't have to summon him ever right?
Anyways here's my deck master
>tfw you forget imperm was used on that column
You DO read every new card you see? RIGHT?
don't need to
I skim for the words negate or destroy. If I don't immediately see it I ignore the rest of the text.
No, I've been using Pot of Prosperity for 4 months and only just recently realized that it's the reason why sometimes my attacks only do half damage.
For the longest time I didn't know Nunu restricted my special summons to reptile types only. God I wish reptiles had more extra deck monsters.
I only read if the card has any (Quick Effects) that can frick me over during my turn.
Yes
I read to check for negates, triggers and floating effects
I have excess gems, should I gacha for a Swordsoul deck before the selection pack goes away in a few days? Or is the next selection pack more broken and I should just wait for that one?
Wait for the new pack but if your gems are about to expire then invest in sexo
They'll expire late this month, so I'm good with waiting for the new selection pack.
The Swordsoul pack is the best pack in the game right now. Even if you aren't interested Swordsoul the pack has Heavenly Prison, DPE, and PUNK which become an extremely splashable engine later on.
I understand why people would move on
I played an hour yesterday and it was a very long losing streak where I get nothing but get going-second hands going first, then vice versa second, going against floodgates with no removal, Maxx C against stun decks, no Maxx C against combo decks etc.
yes because just like the irl game konami doesn't know how to do a banlist, shit has been out for months now and they've hardly banned or limited anything just added more broken shit
just got done building a sky striker deck, any advice on how to play it, general gameplan, defense, etc?
Your aim for the first few turns is to set up as much disruption as possible with your spells by getting at least 3 of them into the grave to make sure you can trigger their powerful secondary effects when you need them. You also want recycle powerful spells like widow anchor and engage as much as possible before punching for game. Also you run both the Accesscode/Selene and DPE engines because Sky Striker Link Monsters can't do that much damage on their own. DPE is especially good in this deck because the Sky Striker spells need empty main monster zones to function and DPE can evacuate the field whenever.
pic related, i have everything you recommended so i guess i just gotta get on with the grind, only need one veiler or two more
Your set. Just remember to do the Shizuku shuffle during the end phase (using widow anchor on your own Shizuku that you pulled of her effect and then setting it with Multirole). Haven't played the deck in a while but I think you need to toggle ON
Also if you ever feel like using floodgates, you can use There Can Only be One or Kaiser Collisseum but I personally for playing that way.
thanks for the help
what do you mean, i grab anchor with shizuku's end turn skill, and use it on her or...? i'm not following too well
Both Shizuku and Multirole are End Phase triggers. So by ordering them correctly, you're able to search Widow Anchor with Shizuku's effect, then immediately use it on herself, and because it's still the End Phase, you're able to activate Multirole on a new chain, and set the Anchor you just activated, since it was a SS spell you activated that turn.
>but I personally for playing that way.
I meant to say I don't care for playing that way
>Shizuku lets you search a spell during the end phase.
>you use this to get Widow Anchor into your hand but you need to set it to use it on the opponents turn
>you activate Widow Anchor, negate literally anything it doesn't matter since this is the end phase
>and then use Multirole's effect to grab the Widow Anchor you just used and set it so you can use it on the opponents turn.
thanks a lot, i'll try this out in solo to try it out!
any other neat tricks i should know about?
Can I reach diamond with monarchs?
With great difficulty and patience. Pray you don't brick before every game
Just don't run handtraps
No
(you) in particular?
No
No, try True Draco or Floowandereeze when their available if you want a Tribute focused deck.
Swordsoul players will lose to gimmick cards
The extra deck was a mistake
Why do they use monster cards as hand traps when they could just use Trap Cards?
So that they could also be tuners and interact with attribute stuff.
>need masquerade
>get swordsoul URs and DPE instead
Jesus frick
DPE will at least be usable in the deck
>DPE will at least be usable in the deck
It's my 5th DPE.
If you got Chengying, I'd at least keep one of those. I'm finding out that he's a fricking monster even outside of Swordsoul decks. Motherfricker might as well be an honorary Agent/Hyperion card, maybe even stronger in this deck than his own. I'm sure there's other synchro decks that can play him well, too.
Grandmaster Chingchong is pretty good in zombie world decks since Balerdroch can trigger his banishing. Though it can be hard to find space for him since Sunsaga and Baronne are also such great lvl 10 synchros.
he's also pretty alright in the deep sea package, which runs very well with popular shitdecks such as cloudians and especially icejades. I assume he'd also be alright in white aura since he's water.
When is next update? I have 9999 gemmies and level 100 on battle pass.
I'm ready.
Probably in like a week.
The game is literally no skill homosexuals just making meta decks to autopilot them for the two turns duels last in modern Yu-Gi-Oh, this game is fricking dead. I remember playing 15 years ago and people got extremely creative with their decks, you almost never encountered the same feck twice, mob mentality homosexuals ruined the card game in general
People only ever got "creative" because they couldn't afford better cards.
Not true, I beat this rich kid "unbeatable" homosexual during a lunch duel and got the biggest pop of my life (Sad, I know) but it was because I got creative with my poorgay cards. Nowadays it's all about, hurr durr, this the best deck currently, hurr durr
You also had to know what was actually worth spending on. The rich asians I went to school with only measured the value of cards in their rarity and stats.
Anon, not too long ago someone won a regional with a 30 buck Apliancer deck.
>wtf why don't schoolchildren and adults play the game the same way? the game must have become imbalanced
moron
>I remember playing 15 years ago and people got extremely creative with their decks
Tier 0 DAD format was 15 years ago lmao
>metagay
DAD format was 10 years ago, you raging homosexual
This game is cancerous to actually play I can't stand this negate meta
Take the otk pill alt tab then comeback if you can otk gg if not go next.
Dead lawl. Her little sister got clowned to boot.
any more notable splashable flood gates.
the barrier statues
added the statues, colossus, and spatial collapse
its already there
not a direct flood gate
A floodgate is a floodgate it doesn't matter
Imperial Iron Wall. It's niche but it's a floodgate no less.
your cards of demise/pot of duality. bro?
added royal decree, imperail order and iron wall
im just making a list of splashable flood gate not a deck of flood gates
in that case... your banisher of the radiance/banisher of the light, bro?
And the Band Played On, though it's not super splashable.
if doesn't have an arch type restriction or can be played in any deck ill put in. Flood gates are there to frick up your plays too.
Vanity fiend is a floodgate. Not sure if it count as splasable.
You can absolutely throw it into basically any random deck that can easily special summon stuff while maintaining their normal summon, or potentially have a low value minion survive to the next turn. Not saying you should, but you can.
How good would this be in Floo?
It's unnecessary. Why be scared of your opponent;s special summon/normal summon when you have Raiza and the other bird floodgates.
Not a floodgate but terraform.
Metaverse so you can use it to go into Secret Village immediately
THEY'RE STILL HOLDING BACK
STRUCTURE DECKS
AND FRICKING BUNDLES
LMAO
I wonder if the game would be better if every deck didnt start with 3 ash 3 maxx c
Of course it would be. The game would be better without Called by the Grave, too. Required deck slots for specific cards is bad.
Yeah for sure. Like in limit 1 fest. It's good when you can't stop my combos/plays.
god you don't even know how much better my deck would be if i didn't have to run those cards and their counters, i could play like 10 more extenders or starters.
what does he do......
phantom knights Black person things
Remove floodgates and remove omni negates from master duel
true omni negates dont exist in the meta aside from herald of ultimateness
thank you dor listening to my ted talk
>baronne
>not an omni negate
Why couldn't they just make Master Duel in the Kojima Engine that they kept after firing Kojima?
This shit is laggy as frick.
which rank is best to stay in if i just want to fight shitty meme decks with my own shitty meme decks?
Bronze
Gold
Occasional meta deck but mostly shit decks that have win conditions somewhere.
Extremely shitty meme decks, then probably Silver.
gold except when ranks reset
>been getting Nibiru'd left and right lately
>check decks after the match
>it's always their fricking one-of they expect to draw off of Maxx C
Just frick this stupid game. I don't even think Nib is an unfair card but what the hell is this bullshit.
and what are you palying
Agents. It sucks because not a lot of hands don't make a monster that can negate Nib until you're past 5 summons, and if you go into those monsters early, it weakens your board unless you drew like nuts already. Sometimes I do have Orange Light for Nib though, but not a lot lately. It's been coming in clutch for Maxx C in recent games, but not Nib.
Read the fricking post again dumb frick. I'm mad they're drawing the one of in their OPENING HAND. I wouldn't be complaining about a one-of that they EXPECT to draw if they actually already drew it off Maxx C.
>it's always their fricking one-of they expect to draw off of Maxx C
That's the entire point of running 1 Nib. If you are taking the Maxx C challenge and don't have 1 negate by 5 summons then you deserve to lose.
UR/SR cards tend to show up more often. Its rigged just like in duel links
>summoning more than 5 times in a turn
Based Niburu frick combogays
Have you activated pot of prosperity, I swear your URs always get to be at the top of your deck 99% of the time
I will get to diamond 1 madolche and keep getting to maximum rank with them. AT least my deck throws people off some.
gg, arthas :^)
So I have to play Exosisters now right?
It's not something that stays on the field so you're not FORCED to, but you probably should regardless.
No
You can dust it and pretend you never saw it
They will be meta eventually so may as well
yes
>Royal Foil
>PAX OF ALL CARDS
It couldn't be any more of a fricking sign. Pax is moronicly hard to get and you got RF for it, you lucky bastard.
This may sound moronic, but would Dimensional Fissure have a place in an Exosister deck?
You don't really need the graveyard so it works, Dimension Shifter is also an option.
It literally turns off your ability to do your deck's normal plays with the main deck monsters unless you play Arment.
>"this reset is my chance to play one of the fun decks I've built"
>end up playing the same deck I started with anyway
I can't help it every season. It's not even thinking of rank climbing, I just like how it plays
you'll switch back after you get btfo by chinksoul anyways
That's just bitter slander, my fun main deck deals with them just fine
It sounds to me like that is your fun deck then.
Just think of yourself as an anime character that has to stick to an archetype
Is this the most cancerous Auroradon board?
>be in gold again
>still run into swordsoul and tri-zoo
>get sick of having my petdeck be beaten up
>run swordsoul
>meet an ancient gear player
>win but feel bad
Feels like I still lost.
you sold your soul to china
yeah even having that deck crafted means you should feel like you lost
I had way more fun with this game than Master Duel
I wish we had more kino single player anime games instead of this schlock.
>57th swordsoul match of the day
>insta scoop after i bait the baronne negate and start playing my actual stuff
what is wrong with these people?
>Swordsoul don't read what my cards do
>Win
This happens way more then it should
i love glassouffle so fricking much
>summon glassouffle
>''NOOOOOOooOOO DESTINY Black person MAN SAAVEE MEEEEE REEEE"
>actives effect chain with glassouffle
>chooses glassouffle gets popped himself while nothing happens to her
>shuffle dpe and his shitty pot of greed back to the deck
>scoop
how can a deck be so based
Between her and Queen you can just mindbreak frick with the person
Yu-Gi-Oh is so fricking cancer now that I wish I could face burn and stall decks from 10+ years ago instead of being negated every fricking duel. It's like playing with extremely powered up version of Horus and Jinzo lockdown. You join them or you quit the game so I said frick it and gave up on trying to PLAY the game with my fav deck. This is all on Koshit, they reached peak powercreep.
>burn and stall decks from 10+ years ago
2012 was dino rabbit and wind up which is chock full of negates
redpill me about branded eldlich
i wanna play clowns but still wanna rep my golden boy
you don't deserve despia you massive homosexual frick off eldBlack person
frick off im not playing the floodgate version
he's tagging with based balerdroch
Don't care, still absolute cancer
You can play it blowing your brains out with a Magnum. 100% win rate.
Yugioh in general is a shitty whale game. Its about to get a whole lot worse too for TCG players once Tearlament/Splight/the even more branded support hit. Tearlament/Splight are beyond game state warping. Imagine a controlled Lightsworn that can play during your turn and never has to really worry about decking itself. Atleast Splight will lead to Toad being banned in TCG. The game gets worse and worse. Just play on free simulators don't be a whale like Basedmooo and gang.
I routinely crap on them with Branded Witchcrafter. Ironically you can also use Necrovalley to cuck them if your deck supports it
People are insanely overreacting to both Splight and Tear. Shit that is good in OCG is not necessary good in TCG because the format is different. This happened just recently with Floowandereeze. Everyone said Floo was going to be taking tops everywhere, never happened. They're relegated to annoying ass deck that's good but not that good. They had extremely high representation in those shit roadoftheking pie charts for OCG l, not as high as Tear and Splight but high enough. Also we're not getting the Ishizu stuff that makes Tear the best deck for a while now. Splight will absolutely not be tier 0 when it comes out here in TCG also because surprise surprise everyone in the West gets to test play before the cards actually come out. Japs get rolled by new shit until they find out how to develop the meta, we have the deck half figured out before it comes out just based on looking at how the Japs build their decks around their new meta.
We also just have some different cards, like when we got Kaiju first.
But yeah some of the Ishizu shit is relegated to magazine promos in OCG which means we're going to have to wait until a collector's set like the Gold series or GFTP to get them. Can't believe how long it took for some of them.
On one hand, it's nice that they don't lock good shit behind time-sensitive subscription promos anymore in the TCG, on the other there's barely any promos now for anything since manga volumes aren't releasing anymore here and the OCG promos take fricking forever to get brought over, like Dark Alligator.
They stopped doing manga promos because EU didn't always get them so it made the TCG technically have two seperate banlists.
I thought that they just flat out stopped because there's literally no more manga volumes being published internationally. After the first few prints they just don't include the promos anymore.
I don't think they gave enough of a shit about the EU not getting the first run of Stardust Spark Dragon or something to stop printing promos with manga because that was literally the only reason people even bought them (Zexal was alright, but GX's manga was fricking boring and 5Ds kind of just ended too soon to make an impact, and everyone knows Arc-V's ending). There's just literally nothing to stick promos onto right now in the first place.
>I thought that they just flat out stopped because there's literally no more manga volumes being published internationally. After the first few prints they just don't include the promos anymore.
They where still making promos when Jump went full digital. If you subbed they just mailed you the promos.
>I don't think they gave enough of a shit about the EU not getting the first run of Stardust Spark Dragon or something to stop printing promos with manga
It was a huge deal and fricked with the Worlds banlist. a lot of meta cards came from the manga like Stratos, Absolute Zero, Tragoedia, Dandylion etc that EU couldn't use or forced Konami to immediately reprint the Jump cards to make them legal everywhere.
Yes anon, I'm fully aware of the shitty digital Jump shift that made me very bitter almost a decade ago. Jump promos are not the same thing. I'm talking about the cards that came with physical volumes of manga in a small insert at the back of the book, which caused most of them to be sold behind the counter at bookstores to prevent people from stealing them. They do not make international manga volumes anymore, ergo there are no more promos for them.
Wasn't the TCG rule that foreign language cards were fine as long as you provided an official translation and they were not designated for OCG use? If that's only the case for English then I'll laugh my ass off.
>Wasn't the TCG rule that foreign language cards were fine as long as you provided an official translation and they were not designated for OCG use?
Yes but the card still needed to be printed in your language to use it. You couldn't just buy an english manga promo on ebay and is it in an area that didn't get the manga promos.
Printed? You couldn't just use the official Konami DB translation? Bizarre, I thought all TCG counted.
Well whatever, I don't miss the Jump promos apart from having to wait for collectors sets to bring over OCG cards now. Digital magazine subscriptions being needed to get a dribble of cards is just moronic.
>Also we're not getting the Ishizu stuff that makes Tear the best deck for a while now
Ishizu.dek will come early for the TCG in the Christmas box
>They had extremely high representation in those shit roadoftheking pie charts for OCG
the difference between 20% and 60% representation is fricking massive moron
>People are insanely overreacting to both Splight and Tear
They have completely overtaken the OCG meta without the help of a banlist to hit previous stuff. They have the tournament results to prove they are broken.
Are @ignisters fun to play?
I've encountered them a few times but never really bothered to look deeper into the deck.
How do they fare against the meta?
HAHA MY 6K ARRIVAL CAN'T POSSIBLY BE BEATEN
OH NO A TURTLE
OH NO MY BABY GOT ASHED
pretty much what they do
The good ignister combo searches out vanity's emptiness as well as bringing out arrival, so they're protected from kaijus.
>activate pot of duality
>chink thinks he's very smart by not ashing it
>*grabs vanity's emptiness*
>he instantly scoops
NEWS WHERE?
you ever just frickin'
I want to gain a frickton of lifepoints and make my opponent suffer for it
macro+soul absorption
Soul Absorption Gren Maju can probably do the trick, unless you specifically want them to suffer from the LP differential. Chain banish Necrofaces to destroy their deck, optionally normal summon one so that you recover everything afterwards.
It could work if your opponent gets very stubborn.
You do not scare me.
You can't threaten me with a good time
It pisses me off that all of the zombie tuner handtraps are UR. They don't want to risk losing money on the chance that the other ones, like Ghost Sister, might catch on and be a cheap meta craft card.
Sacred Beasts regularly get above 15k LP with their trap that heals you every time the opponent summons.
Aromages actually have healing as a primary mechanic but they're pretty bad I think. They do things every time you heal, and also have continuous effects that are active as long as your LP is higher than the opponent's.
I had a suspicion about this and it happened.
Apparently, Petingcessoeur starts a chain in the hand when you do her "special summon from hand if you have no monsters in your GY" effect. This is literally the same kind of effect Cyber Dragon has and I know Cyber Dragon doesn't start a chain. This seems incorrect to me.
It literally says "You can use the following effects". Its summon is an activated effect. Effects start chains. Cyber Dragon however is a summoning condition for an inherent summon so it does not start a chain.
It's like how summoning a contact fusion does not start a chain, but using an effect to conduct a fusion summon does start a chain.
I bought that Zexel manga with The Lightning just for that card.
frick
Is 7k gems enough for a good deck
It might be
depends on the deck and how many generic staples you already own
It should be enough for the core of the standard deck. That is the cards that make that deck the deck that it is. You might not be able to make it at 100% full power though, but you can find budget replacements for the expensive staple cards and still find success.
Now go make a Hero deck and tell us how it goes.
7k doesn't even get you the skeleton of heros
Yes it is unless you're making some absurdly UR-heavy deck like Luna Kaiju or HERO.
https://ygorganization.com/itsreallylevel4with2600atk/
I cannot believe they made a card specifically to support Terrorking Salmon of all things lmao
bake new bread
only when banlist hits