So what are your thoughts on gw releasing medieval marginalia as part of their cities of sigmar range? Also medieval marginalia thread.
Medieval marginalia
So what are your thoughts on gw releasing medieval marginalia as part of their cities of sigmar range? Also medieval marginalia thread.
I wish they would release them separately in a big dedicated kit so I could buy them without ending up with a bunch of stuff I don't want.
That’s probably exactly why they won’t do that, but atleast most of it looks pretty good except for the faces tbh.
>Buy box. I dont want 50% of Medieval Marginalia.
It kinda is a perpective thing. But i agree that you have a valid point for people who like them all.
Someone made hieronymus bosch and marginalia miniatures and they look great, idk if you can still buy them
Oh yeah the Andrew May stuff! His stuff is great, as far as i’m aware you can only buy it through his kickstarters though, which is a shame, but he does them pretty regularly atleast.
They sell them at the royal museum of fine arts in Brussels. I saw them there this summer
Some sculptors got the medieval art idea and it looks great, the Empire was Renaissance, Bretonnia was the Late Middle Ages and I enjoy haing a High Medieval range
But then the Arch-Knights and Whisperblade look like something out of Clash of Clans, they look extremely stupid
The range this far has been extremely hit or miss for sure. Mostly because of the mandatory diversity hire stuff imho.
My favorite was the Sister of Battle that just looked like Terry Crews in a Lady Gaga wig
Now that you said it i can’t unsee it. But atleast that kit came with decent options as far as i’m aware.
That's one upside of the SoB kits- lots of versatility. And I might be the oddball, but I didn't like the default head for Inquisitors Quakerb***h and Lady Leukemia- so the SoB sprues were great for finding something different.
it gets worse
>trans representation
I think that's just an ugly woman.
that's 7/10 in England
Shall we shag now or shag later?
It's straight up Samuel Jackson.
Juan Diaz was the only sculptor who ever made feminine looking faces on a gw model, this is a return to tradition
holy shit that nose
Just shave down the nose with an X-acto knife and/or do what women do with makeup and use paint to create shadows and contour the nose. Then you could change her from really ugly to just ugly and you could still stick to the human skin tones instead of using up all that precious brown paint that could be better utilized for wood, fur, and leather
easy
Or GW could just choose not to make the character look moronic.
Bitch, that's Don Cheadle
With that nose it can be basically any black guy.
It's the eye, nose, mouth and chin shape all together that makes that Canoness head Cheadle-esque
I guess you’re right, when i went back and looked there is an undeniable resemblance between the two.
I guess 40k really is grim dark
Just replace the head if you don't like it.
A frostgrave cultist head might look amazing here and change the tone of the whole model
Then you can’t post pictures of it or bring it to game stores since you will be accused of being ”racist” by some woke moron.
The skeleton behind her has a matching scar, I'm sure there's a head with the same scar, but requires a some digging.
For that alone, I'm keeping the head.
the soulblight armors look so good. i was hoping for armored great swords and instead we get the arch knight who looks like a part of that one chaos legionaries warcry band. the critters and medieval beasts are great though
Weren’t the soulblight armours specifically based on ulfenkarn?
>Bretonnia was the Late Middle Ages and I enjoy haing a High Medieval range
Could be wrong but wouldn't it be the other way around COS being late Medieval and Bretonnia High Medieval?
like with the Great cannon, plate armor & early firearms like the fusiler-major "sniper" and Marshal pistol
while Bretonnia doesn't use any and are still using trebuchet and archers?
>Could be wrong but wouldn't it be the other way around COS being late Medieval and Bretonnia High Medieval?
bretonnia is a bit anachronistic in that is mixes the majority of early medieval stuff like 13th century helmets with plate armor that was only around several hundred years later. But the rest of the army is most early medieval - of course it gets interesting if you look at the early army which had gonnes and artillery from the historical range the perrys made for it, i.e. bretonnia started out as a purely historical ranged that then took on a bunch of fantasy elements.
>like with the Great cannon, plate armor & early firearms like the fusiler-major "sniper" and Marshal pistol
As much as Imperial Guard
>dwarf
>without a beard
>on a horse
This is one of the better human sculpts in the range actually.
Because it's not human?
Where are you getting dwarf from? It doesn't have dwarf proportions.
I don’t see it either, he just looks like the other humans in the range.
>Where are you getting dwarf from?
Look at the horse and then look at the rider.
It's a dwarf
It’s a giant horse, not a stunted man
Proportion-wise they both deformed
The man is just fat
Why are all the new humans in the range fat and moronic looking?
AoS players need representation.
it's to drive down the theme of the "common man" taking up arms
But by that logic wouldn’t they be encouraging fat and moronic people to take up arms?
yes, yes they would be
>cities of sigmar sets are all full of blacks, women, fats, and other undesirables
>these crusading forces are actually just how Gigachad Sigmarites purge their cuties of disgenic freaks
Kinda based, ngl
>women
>undesirables
Stop shitposting and get back to powering the Astronomican, you skeletal homosexual.
I consider none of the women in that range desirable and i’m a red blooded straight man.
American and British women are not desirable.
American women can be beautiful, but the models look like particularly ugly American and average British women
You're telling me you'd frick
?
>Some sculptors got the medieval art idea
pic unrelated?
>pic unrelated?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danse_Macabre
And..?
if you can't figure out it yourself there is no helping you
Are you a autistic lackwit?
It’s just some moron baiting, ignore him.
See the skeleton playing the flute on the left.
>See the skeleton playing the flute on the left.
Where?
Actually mentally handicapped.
Okay how it's related to AoS?
may god have mercy on your soul
I’m very surprised he got through the captcha.
But there are no skeleton, not classical Dance macabre aesthetic on the posted photo
Do you really enjoy people making fun of you this much?
>marginalia
Frick whoever called them that. I came here intrigued by maybe some good lore appearing in game books like gw used to have. Turns out it's some dick (not you OP, you're just using the word they've already shafted) who doesn't know what a drollery is.
If you want some lore regarding them they are apparently quasi-order demons who pop up wherever the devout of sigmar go. They are definetly my favourite part of the new range.
Perhaps the only lore thing I like from AoS.
Their official AOS name is Gargoylians
drollery = marginalia
No, he's right. Drollery are specifically the little critters, marinalia is the general term for anything found in a medieval manuscript scribbled in the margins that's not part of the main text (including said critters but also just decorative embellishments, critiques or commentaries on the main text, graffiti, etc).
It's actually utterly soulless tripe, capitalising on seal clapping fake grog redditors who know about LE EPIC MEDIEVAL FUNNEH SNAIL PICS but don't actually care about history or culture.
i think you could probably squeeze a couple more buzzwords in tbqh, but nice effort all the same
They're not bad as fun little nobs, but ultimately I agree with that they're superficial attempts to cash-in on the novelty and to pander to a particularly obnoxious kind of GW fan with a surface level understanding of history and an obsession with HEMA.
They already have their own spiritual successors to these little dudes with Nurglings, Servoskulls, the little bats and reptiles from vampire Counts and Lizardmen sets that add to the models by being GW's own take on the history that their games are extremely loosely inspired by, rather than cribbing the look of "marginalia" wholesale without making any attempt to give some actual depth and meaning to why they're part of the model. There's nothing more aggressively and obnoxiously modern than an image without the meaning that informs the image.
> There's nothing more aggressively and obnoxiously modern than an image without the meaning that informs the image.
You sound extremely pretentious
>the meaning that informs the image.
They're literally just doodles that bored scribes drew in the margins of pages. There's no meaning whatsoever.
Drawn because monks spend hours upon hours copying manuscripts by hand, and this was their way of having a bit of fun between martins and their mug of beer at dinner.
It's utterly meaningless when it's rendered in a couple of hours by a balding Englishman wearing socks and sandals in some draughty cave in Nottingham while a marking executive stands over his shoulder and tells him to make it more accessible to women, children and women and children with a disability.
>a balding Englishman wearing socks and sandals in some draughty cave in Nottingham
i think all of these quit because
>a marking executive stands over his shoulder and tells him to make it more accessible to women, children and women and children with a disability
>It's utterly meaningless when
it's utterly meaningless anyway
whether it was drawn by an 11th century monk or somebody up the road from me with downs syndrome, it's just a silly doodle
A doodle containing the amalgam of a reality separate from our own but nonetheless real.
Their lives revolved around these books and their meaning, the way we talk about our beloved games and characters, they did about their books and scripture.
In the end, the result of their collective morphemic sphere bred by faith isolation and endless labor created a very specific and slightly grimsical aesthetic that persists as a example-rich cultural touchstone to this day, in art in fiction, in all media.
What you are looking at is a human history, a time capsule of a schema that you could not otherwise access, and a red string of human behavior, as you observe some of the first cartoonists, who plied their trade in between margins in between trades.
It as instantly recognizable as synthwave or noir shit. (and was memed as the response to other aesthetics for the last fricking decade here)
It's also a peek at the embryonic fringes of the dominant force in semi-modern history.
Old books are useful for much, much more than words.
and?
One is an authentic peek into the the era place and the people. What they feared, laughed at and adored. With a style that has already inspired and informed hundreds of years of media globally.
The other is a bad reproduction divorced from the cultural capitol by people who couldn't survive a mild spanish winter.
don't care
Nothing in this world was ever submitted for your approval.
Get used to it, especially in threads about games derived from said capitol.
you just wrote several paragraphs trying to appeal to me
sounds like you're pretty desperate for my approval
Were the kids bookchecking you "appealing" to you too?
You walked into a thread that you "don't care about" to respond to posts you "don't care about" for the express purpose of talking about shit you "don't care about" and soliciting opinions you "don't care about".
Then you got tainttorn enough to reply to me twice outlining how little you care.
Yeah bro, looking steady out there.
LMFAO
>Nothing in this world was ever submitted for your approval.
This applies to you.
I do, I'm so familiar with the concept that I had to relay it to you in your time of sneed.
You'd do well to listen to me more.
After all I'm not the one trying to field-dress his over-burdened diaper with a recursive "i don't care".
You're still here, by the way.
Absolutely not mad and most certainly still not caring.
This all boils down to "you can't fully embody the depth of subcultures so don't use their aesthetics" which newsflash, moron, applies to every part of the game by that metric. If you have a complaint that can only apply to these specific little guys instead of every reused aesthetic that has ever existed, try again to convince anyone to care.
That wasn't what I said, it was asked why it was different.
The answer was it is a product of levity in their time, much like the game we play, were the two overt references to how they were similar lost on you?
Well we all know the answer because you made this "im 13 and here's my revelation pal" post.
>"unnnnh e-e-errr-everything you s-s-s-said was r-r-right r-r-r-moron"
I know.
Good luck.
why are you still in the thread
You sound very pretentious
I'm happy to be called pretentious when it comes to something I care about. Having standards is enough to make people label you pretentious now.
>appreciablechuckle.gif
Cheers.
Jesus Christ, anon. Shut the frick up.
>GW makes grotesque minis for their fantasy game
>NOOOOOOO THE WEST HAS FALLEN!!!
There's nothing more aggressively and obnoxiously modern than a schizophrenic on /tg/
>shit no one said
Maybe you should attempt to read the words you decide to get mad at.
Talk about frickin schizophrenic lmao.
>n-no, you!!
I had another read over and the pearl-clutching over grotesques does seem more pretentious than schizo, but it's still typical /tg/ schizo behaviour in finding problems where there are none.
the paintjobs are clearly doing a lot of heavy lifting there, models that small really shouldn't be in plastic tbqh
True, but i do like the direction they are going, hopefully we get some larger one’s like this
in the future.
>marginalia
They should have spent the time it took to make these and designing sculpts that didn't look like complete ass.
Here’s some more minis from Andrew Mays medieval marginalia line. He does kickstarters semi regularly with pretty good track record of delivering on time, but he did one kind of recently so it may be a while until he runs another.
these look incredible
And some of his Hieronymus Bosch stuff.
It's a very soulful thing to do, weird its coming from the actual gw.
as posted multiple times in this thread they ripped of popular hobbyists on instagram
>random instagram people have monopolies on making models based off of medieval doodles
thats not what i said, but they did it first and ripping of popular designs is what gw is doing since 1980
So they ”stole” these designs from books made during the middle ages?
Can you show me which specific models are ripoffs of which specific models?
>Can you show me which specific models are ripoffs of which specific models?
no
wouldn't gw including them bump the sales of those sculpts as well?
I mean, if I was someone who wanted to start a cos army I would consider replacing some models or units with those
I feel like you’re just shitting on GW for no reason at all. They haven’t really done anything wrong here.
no you are probably right. but i had the same feeling when they released the new deadwalkers that looked suspiciously similar to the fireforge zombies everybody used for conversions. but that as well could just be my moronation
They are both medieval peasants, so it would be understandable if they both look the same since they are just wearing basic clothes for the time period. But the GW ones are actually pretty unique since they have the whole root/walking graveyard theme going on.
Pic related: the fireforge zombies i think you’re talking about.
And the new GW zombies.
These guys would be great if they weren't utterly ruined by having trees growing out of them for no fricking reason.
I think they are supposed to be roots since they’ve been buried or something.
Wouldn't they have decomposed into skeletons by the time roots took hold?
It’s fantasy so who knows realy.
Technically yes.
They'd still have memescale, so no at best they'd be mediocre.
Wtf is memescale?
Anything larger than 15mm.
Heroic scale that GW uses that makes their figures be deformed caricatures instead of anything. And I have to specify it's GW's heroic scale since Northstar, GCT, and Wyrd make figures in heroic scale and they're not blown up.
>Wtf is memescale?
He's referring to Heroic Scale, which usually does the heads and hands larger than they would be otherwise (for both ease of sculpting and to aid people in painting the details)
They're risen dead, not modern "living person turned into undead" stuff. They're stuff that grew into or got stuck to the body while it was dead and rotting.
It is explained better in bits of the Cursed City board game. Gorslav the Gravekeeper buries the dead in his corpse-gardens and the cursed plants are what grow into the bodies to make them rise again. Sort of like an invasive nervous system hijacking a dead person's body. There's also the detail that all the pushfit versions of the deadwalker zombies from Cursed City have steaks through their hearts when they are buried to prevent them from rising as vampires, which doesn't do crap to stop them rising as zombies.
That lore is actually kinda interesting, better than i would normally expect from GW. Shame cursed city was such a clusterfrick of a launch.
ok, but that's gorslav and ulfenkarn
why does every other zombie have roots in them too?
Same kind of magic thing to bring them back?
If it's in Ghur or Ghyran it would be very reasonable for roots to entangle the corpses while they're still fleshy since both of those realms have very quick-growing plants, the former because it's basically fantasy Catachan and the latter because Alarielle has decided she prefers plants to meatbags.
You can just clip that stuff off.
> So what are your thoughts on gw releasing medieval marginalia as part of their cities of sigmar range?
Okay?
Look, I don’t know what you want from me; I haven’t been terribly invested in any GW products since 2014 when I just had it with the price of their model kits.
Tried to get back into 40k in 2019 but, ya’know, pandemic hit and a new edition, so…
>So what are your thoughts on gw releasing medieval marginalia as part of their cities of sigmar range?
"guys please come back"
Sort of fun reference and similarity to the old whf familiars but doesn't seem like the will be available as individual models so meh.
fwiw it's a decent nudge to try sculpting a few little weirdos.
I like them and funky lil guys hanging around renaissance soldiers is one of the main things that drew me to the WFB universe in the first places. Dedicated gw haters can seethe and cope all they want, but for once I am feeling pandered to, and I like it 🙂
>rat wearing laurel wreath
Holy mother of based.
finally Stirland gets some representation
The least shitty part of that entire awful range.
Who thinks degenerating from a Renaissance early modern aesthetic into mudcore wow pauldron schlock loosely based from shit 300 years prior was a good idea?
The worst part is it'll sell because it's GW and reinforce that they made the right choice.
When can I get a unit of Blemmyes
Unironically make your own. Slaanon over in /wfg/ made one out of a marauder.
isn't that what tzeentchian horrors already are?
Tzeentchian horrors can be literally anything.
the heck?
Not sure if someone has mentioned them yet but antediluvian miniatures has a bunch of demons based on medieval artwork.
i'm very surprised how many of you take the bait
I was hoping for a war priest riding a gargoyle
>No rabbits jousting on snails
>no rat in a chicken-legged pot
>no fiddle playing shaggy lions with a mans face
s'ok
This seems like it’s just them testing the waters, hopefully there’s more to come with future releases.
>marginalia
Needs moar snails.
Woaaaah doood!!! The James workshop is releasing a giant ballsack! Wow guize this is life changing!!! Woah dooodd!!!! Consooooooooooom
if they did it would be better than any of the other giant centerpiece models they put out for aos
89871967
Weak bait
tbh if games workshop did release a giant ballsack dude I would be happy with them. Not enough to buy it unless it's second hand and cheap, but happy nonetheless.
Wtf is the origin of that pic?
This is from the Diableries Erotiques, which isn't medieval (mid 1800s) but there's a fair few of them. Made by a Franchman, of course.
https://honesterotica.com/portfolios/909
>French
Makes sense honestly.
>are you a bad enough dude to hit your own dick with a hammer?
Another guy not in the op image
Where did you find him?
Looks like it's from the dog trackers for Warcry (the bottom-left dog, can see just a pixel of it)
>So what are your thoughts on [X]
None, because I never heard about it and I also don't care.
Find better format for flooding this board
>None, because I never heard about it and I also don't care.
Then why come to this thread?
Would you?
What, again?
Damn
bully him? yeah. He looks like a massive pussy.
So when are these little guys actually coming out? I don't play any GW games but this might be something I want to pick up just to paint and use in my D&D games.
Half of them are already out. They're not a unit in an of themselves, but little basing extras included in kits. You'd have to buy them off ebay if you want them individually.
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