> higher res
> cool colors
> better GPU
> higher FOV
> depth sensor
> launch games
> new controllers
> new pancake lenses
> higher res than the index
> no less than 50 games coming
> cheaper than any other headset
> now with torso and elbow tracking
> don't want controllers ? use hand tracking
> tons of retro and indie games https://sidequestvr.com/
> play PC-VR steam games. no need to buy games from meta
> thinner and smaller for portable play sessions from any place
> pass-through color camera for sweet AR with family and friends
you are getting it right ?
Gonna wait to see what they do with the "augments" feature. The through the lens video of the pass-through at the best buy demos look better than expected tho. But I'm a poorgay now otherwise it'd already be pre-ordered
Set up a koikatsu scene on green screen, force the greenscreen to display the Quest 3 camera feed, jerk off to an anime prostitute on your bed. Be better then the b&w version of that current pass through allows.
Yikes. Not a fan of the design language. That'll be a pass from me, my guy.
>you are getting it right?
No but I will use the opportunity to buy a Quest 2 for pennies and use it to wank myself into a coma
Quest 3 is higher res and fov. meaning higher immersion for those coomer sessions
I've tried cooming with a vr headset and it's honestly pretty fricking terrible.
care to elaborate ? there's 2d porn (360 vids) and 3d porn. If it gets too hot you can get this bad boy
https://www.amazon.com/Comfortable-Compatible-Accessories-oculus-meta-2/dp/B09V548ZXK
100% agreed its too clunky for that shit
i'll get it if fix the compression you get from using oculus link, after switching to the reverb g2 it was hard for me to go back (even though windows MR is complete dogshit)
it won't fix the compression or latency, that's an inherent problem with wireless VR. Native PCVR will always be superior
>b-b-but the cable!
the cable on modern headsets is way lighter than the battery you strap to your face with a quest
>> higher res
still less than a 2019 Reverb
>> cool colors
huh?
>> better GPU
as powerful as a PS3
>> higher FOV
wooo
>> depth sensor
will have 3 software titles use it
>> launch games
junk
>> new controllers
junk
>> new pancake lenses
ok
>> higher res than the index
which is also shit
>> no less than 50 games coming
all of them are shit
>> cheaper than any other headset
Pico cost less
>> now with torso and elbow tracking
no it hasn't
>> don't want controllers ? use hand tracking
doesn't work well
>> tons of retro and indie games
https://sidequestvr.com/
because that's all you'll want to play
>> play PC-VR steam games. no need to buy games from meta
and play in glorious video compressed dogshit image with 60ms latency
>> thinner and smaller for portable play sessions from any place
portable with 90 mins battery
>> pass-through color camera for sweet AR with family and friends
Just like the fantastic Playstation Eye, which captured the hearts of all the PS4 players and was used in lots of titles throughout the console generation. lol
> pico
here's the specs for the pico
>> GPU Qualcomm XR2 7nm
Quest 3 uses Qualcomm XR2 gen 2, 4nm processing technology
>> FOV is around 105 degrees
Quest 3 FOV is around 110 degrees
>> Refresh rate capped at 90hz
Quest 3 offers 90hz and 120hz now
>> Only uses HMD cameras for tracking and cannot track behind back or below headset
Quest 3 uses downward facing cameras and AI algorithms to track and predict even when occluded
finally pico not even available for purchase in most countries.
you are a homosexual contrarian.
He's talking about the Pico 5 (Pro), you cherry-picking moron.
https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=8AuLOMhEz&h2=0q3goALzg
ít's a fricking chinese copy of the quest 3. Are you really that stupid to think a chinese copy and software will be better than the original ?
Yes? I'm sorry, are you an American or something?
tracking in pico 4 is atrocious. standalone is also awful
Oh no, unfounded statements by someone who has already shown to be biased against the Pico for some fricking reason!
How will they ever recover?
Frick off, boomer.
Pico 5 pro max will be around $1000 dollars
Yeah, and only morons will spend that much money when you can spend $550 and get a Pico 5 Pro.
pico 5 pro will be available at the end of 2024 with zero games.
>zero games
https://store.steampowered.com/vr
Pico shills are actually brain damaged. Imagine buying a stand-a-lone headset without Beat Saber or exclusives. You may as well just buy a full PCVR headset. Fricking waste of money. Also that shit is owned by some Chinese company. Facebook already has all my information I don't need to give it to another sketchy company.
If the Pico is so bad, what does that say about all the alternatives which are even worse?
Also
>without Beat Saber or exclusives
Hahahahahahahahaha
Fricking consoletards, man.
>all the alternatives which are even worse
I mean Quest is an improvement purely in terms of tracking quality.
It's interesting you say this, considering most of the specs of the Pico 5 aren't even out yet.
I'm talking just about the Pico 4.
I doubt Pico 5 will be much of an improvement though without all the Zuck Bucks poured into the tracking software like with Quest.
Oh yeah, let's just compare the GameCube to the PS4, that's totally a reasonable comparison.
moron.
Isn't the Pico 4 technically more advanced than the Quest 2?
It is. That fact combined with the leaked specs of the Pico 5 gives me a reasonable amount of confidence that it'll be better than the Quest 3.
For those that don't believe me, check out https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=1qnvNfJKq&h2=pDTZ02PkT
my point is that even though the Pico 4 was more advanced than the Quest 2 on paper, shortcomings like the worse tracking quality held it back.
>shortcomings like the worse tracking quality held it back.
Name literally a single reputable source that claims this.
No, because the Pico 4 hardware was on par with the Quest 2 hardware.
Just like the Pico 5 hardware will be on par with the Quest 3 hardware.
>the Pico 4 hardware was on par with the Quest 2 hardware
no it wasn't, the Pico 4 has 20% higher GPU clocking thanks to better cooling as well as 8GB Ram instead of 6GB meaning games like Red Matter 2 run better on Pico 4.
I'm talking about the CPU Chipset and the like.
Obviously the overall design is better, why else do you think the Pico released two years later?
It's typical Chinese handiwork: copy (read: steal) what exists and refine the concept.
And I am perfectly fine with it.
>why else do you think the Pico released two years later?
Then you agree it's fairer to compare it to Quest 3 which only launches within a year of Pico?
>Pico 4 hardware was on par with the Quest 2 hardware.
higher resolution , faster processsor, better controllers , better lenses
you're full of shit meta shill
>Name literally a single reputable source that claims this
https://www.uploadvr.com/pico-4-review-quest-2-comparison/
>Another disappointing technical aspect of Pico 4 is that the positional tracking just isn’t as solid as Quest 2. Even in a room with good lighting & plenty of high-contrast features, there’s a tiny jitter on both the headset and controllers, and the position of both sometimes slightly shifts as if to correct accumulated drift. It’s subtle, but it makes me feel slightly sick when this happens too. Using Quest 2 in the exact same lighting, no such issue occurs and the tracking feels rock solid.
That's weird, every other source that isn't a content farm reports something far different.
https://mixed-news.com/en/pico-4-review/#HandTracking_and_VR_controller
>Tracking is once again exquisite, and I can hardly notice any differences compared to Quest 2.
>Even during fast movements in VR games, the controllers track precisely.
Are you really gonna tell me this doesn't look like a content farm to you
Alright, how about PC Gamer? Are they a reputable source according to you?
https://www.pcgamer.com/pico-4-ve-headset-review/
>Accurate tracking
>I'm actually pretty impressed with the Pico 4's 6DoF tracking implementation, too.
>I found it more accurate than, say, the much more expensive HTC Vive XR Elite.
>And although the Pico 4 doesn't come with extras like hand tracking, it nails the basics, and some.
>I was expecting so much less for the price, honestly.
>Are they a reputable source according to you?
not really, no
Okay, yeah, fair enough. I concede.
>Just like the Pico 5 hardware will be on par with the Quest 3 hardware.
isn't it funny how china always playing catch up with western products ? I wonder why ? why can't they innovate without having to clone ?
Hey, I don't give a shit. As long as they deliver better quality products for less money they can keep stealing from large companies all they want.
I won't lose any sleep over it.
No, because of the reason stated in
>the Pico 4 hardware was on par with the Quest 2 hardware
But you just said the Pico 4 hardware was an improvement thanks to better design due to it coming out 2 years later.
So which is it?
>you just said the Pico 4 hardware was an improvement
False, I said that the design was optimized.
I get that you're trying to force the idea that the Pico 4 can't be compared to the Quest 2 because it has slightly better components (yet on par hardware), but that's not how this works.
>because it has slightly better components
actually my point was entirely the time span between releases which you yourself pointed out
>why else do you think the Pico released two years later?
So they can copy and improve on the Quest design? Like I clearly said before?
I'm not sure what your point is, anon.
>they can copy and improve on the Quest design?
exactly, so that makes it unfair to compare when it was specifically made as an improvement.
There's also the case of the price, with the Pico 4 retailing for about $430.
That's closer to the Quest 3's price of $500 than it is to the Quest 2's price of $300.
So your argument is that the Pico 4 was much better than the Quest 2, there wasn't even a contest?
Well, that's great! Because that means the Pico 5 will be so much better than the Quest 3 that you won't even have to consider which to buy!
And it's even cheaper than the Quest 3, too! Thanks for clearing all this up, anon.
>it's even cheaper than the Quest 3, too!
oh so you lied all the way at the start when you said most of the specs aren't out including prices?
>most of the specs aren't out
This is true.
>including prices
This is false.
Come on now, anon. Please do make sure you know the facts before stating bullshit!
Please take a look at the following: https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=SSXpqd8WG&h2=0q3goALzg
>stating bullshit
uh huh
Denying reality isn't healthy, anon.
Here, have some alternative sources:
https://www.pocket-lint.com/pico-5-rumours-release-date-specs-features/
https://skarredghost.com/2023/09/26/pico-5-quest-3-launch/
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/pico-5-pico-5-pro-pico-5-pro-max.18977864/
And there's even a clickbait-y the video about the leaks!
>It's expected to cost
uh huh
No need to samegay.
Did you somehow miss me saying I am basing everything on leaked specs? lmao, you fricking moron
uh huh
Completely and utterly broken.
It's been fun, anon. Can't wait to see you seethe some more when more details come out.
>No need to samegay.
Oh, damn, you got me.
Those pico specs are fake btw.
all me btw
Glad we can agree that Metasisters are merely beta testing before the Chinese swoop in and create a better product.
>shortcomings like the worse tracking quality held it back.
Literally never experienced this and I don't care how much you want to sound like a broken record over it to protect Zuck's honour. And I typically play in a relatively dim room only illuminated by a single 2700k lamp in the corner of my living room.
wouldn't this be fairer since the Q3's release is closer to Pico 4 than Q2's?
https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=0q3goALzg&h2=1qnvNfJKq
> Isn't the Pico 4 technically more advanced than the Quest 2?
barely. tracking and games are still better on quest
also
quest 2 release date, Oct 2020
pico 4 release date, Oct 2022
>barely. tracking and games are still better on quest
let me guess. you own a Quest
I've used both and I could tell the tracking was better on Quest.
tracking is worse than CV1 with 3 sensors
so now we're comparing Quest to CV1 instead of Pico 4 to make it fairer on Pico?
>used
so you don't own both. What, you tried in a store?
>so you don't own both
not anymore, I returned the Pico 4 after I found the Quest 2 was better overall.
which would you say was best from Quest 2 vs Quest Pro?
Quest 3 is in a lot of ways better than Quest Pro. the obvious is price, but also higher resolution and higher fresh rate. It's a no brainer, nobody should be buying the quest pro after the quest 3 is out.
do you have difficulty reading you mong?
why would you buy a fricking quest 2 in 2023 ? A quest pro is $1500 and a quest 3 is around 400 bucks.
at no point did anyone suggest buying a quest 2 in 2023 you fricking moron.
I asked because you claimed the Quest 2 is better than a Pico 4.
I own a Quest Pro and Pico 4 and the Quest Pro is shit. The Pico 4 is also shit. But the Quest Pro is shitter
and you're still a fricking mong
>I own a Quest Pro and Pico 4 and the Quest Pro is shit.
you are a homosexual troll, gtfo.
No eye tracking though which is lame
yeah that is the only advantage of the pro which is a bummer but it's obvious why they did that. Next year they are probably releasing the quest pro 2 with eye tracking for around $1500
Hey, guess what VR headset does have eye-tracking?
That's right! The Pico 5 Pro!
> The Pico 5 Pro
it's fugazzi, It's fairy dust. It doesn't exist. they say December 2024 if lucky. we might as well wait for the next valve headset at that point.
The Deckard will probably release in late 2027, early 2028.
why the frick are people talking about the pico 5 ? It will not be released until the end of 2024 and it will be above $1000.
>consoletards
It's basically a console either way you moron. It's like buying a console with zero exclusives or buying a console with exclusives. Obviously the one with exclusives is better, otherwise just buy a PC headset with display port. I don't know what you're laughing at.
Anon, you buy hardware for their "exclusives".
Literally nothing you say from that point onward has any value whatsoever.
>Anon, you buy hardware for their "exclusives".
Yes, what is your point? I genuinely have no idea what you are trying to say. Obviously it would be better if the games were on PC as well.
>Yes
So you are actually saying that buying a console with no exclusives is a better decision than buying a console with exclusives? Legitimate brain rot.
Only morons buy consoles for their exclusives.
If the console has some sort of gimmick, then it's understandable.
Like the Wii, or any VR headset.
ok? but what else though
Bigscreen and Varjo are both $1k without controllers
Pico 5 Pro
See
>estimate release: December 2024
gay
ok seriously Bigscreem vs the Varjo aero
>Varjo aero
it's at least 1500 bucks with cameras and controllers that you have to buy separately.
but its the only high res headset with eye trackers that work. Its easier to run than the reverb with the native foveated rendering
> >estimate release: December 2024
pico is the typical chinese clone trying to 1up every feature of the quest on paper but in reality it's just a shittier experience overall. Expect chinese drones by December 2024 saying look it's better than the quest 3 !
why can't you afford 1k?
why would i spend 1k?
to buy a varjo or beyond.
do you have difficulty following threads?
but why would i buy those when i can buy the superior pico 5 pro for half that amount?
>but what else though
Q2 with rtx 4090
You unironically don't need more.
I'm still on quest 1. I'm using it for PC so I don't care about the power, and I like the contrast of its oled screen. It sill works, but both thumb sticks have drift, and facebook doesn't offer replacements. I'm not going to reward them for their planned obsolescence. If this thing breaks, I rather buy chinese than from facebook. But I hope the valve headset from the rumours is out by then.
>I rather buy chinese than from facebook
great! support the commie dog eaters that would jail you for speaking your mind because you wanted a piece of tech that lasted 10 years.
Anon, are you okay? Wtf are you even mad about?
I'll wait 2 more weeks for the Deckard.
If I get tired however many months into the two week wait I might splurge for the BigScreenVR instead if the reviews turn out to stay positive.
Valve did right by me with the Index's warranty (got multiple free replacements for both the HMD and controllers over a 2 year period), so they have my trust when it comes to hardware purchases.
>support the commie dog eaters that would jail you for speaking your mind
You act like Meta (Facebook) don't regularly cooperate with local law enforcement agencies you fricking pol-brained invertebrate.
I've been liking my Bigscreen a lot so far coming from the Index. The picture itself is very pretty and it is pretty comfy. My main gripe right now is that you need to use earbuds, but they are supposed to be shipping out audio straps eventually.
you are incredibly moronic
> .t chinese dog abuser
>Trust me, Faceberg is totally anti-China
>even though Zucc has a Chinese wife, speaks Mandarin, and gets his products manufactured there
not anti china but facebook is american and it's not available in china, china blocked it many many years ago. Zuc is not that dumb.
Zuc wants to sell his products in China though, they're the ones who said no
selling your products to billions of chinese of course who wouldn't ? The fact is that china controls all their media and facebook, instagram, reddit, quora, twitch, twitter/x and such have been blocked for more than a decade in china.
Facebook itself might be blocked in China, but their headsets are still manufactured by Xiaomi and Lenovo. It's chink shit all the way down
Theyre not, they recently made a deal with tenecet to basically handle their vr in China
>but their headsets are still manufactured in china
who said otherwise ? every piece of tech is assembled in china or now india
It's the reason chinese come up with cloned hardware like the pico a few months after the release of every single western product
>less than 10 games worth buying VR for since Quest 2
>israelitebook
Maybe once they hack that thing. I would only use it with PC anyway.
>still a big thing you put on your face
not interested, call me when it's a pair of regular glasses
Regular glasses won't give you the immersion VR provides.
And for full immersive AR, you're gonna have to wait for Neuralink.
Won't ever happen, you will sooner get nerual link.
a big thing you put on your face
Are you a child ? it's fricking tiny, smaller than ski goggles.
>Are you a child ?
hahhahah becuase its certainly the mature adults caring about this shit so they can decapitate women in walking dead for the 5000th time
just say youre incel
>so they can decapitate women in walking dead for the 5000th time
what ?
> certainly the mature adults caring about this shit
VR and AR is the future. you are too low IQ to understand, that's why you are poor and dumb.
>VR and AR is the future.
VR is just a gimmick, and after the novelty of it wears off, it's just a more cumbersome way to play video games
> VR is just a gimmick
I bought a quest 2 like 2 days ago and the left controller started drifting like a motherfricker like 2 days in.
return it and preorder the quest 3
I might, all I do in VR is create smut in UE5. If this will allow me to create better looking smut that runs natively on the headset then my dick will consider it.
>create smut in UE5
elaborate
I convert SFM/Blender models others have created into gameready actors with interactivity and AI and use them to play out my fantasies.
have any tutorials for that ?
It's just general game development stuff, learning the basics of blender and unreal/unity would be a start.
I mean loading a model is easy but what about AI ? what do your characters do
The actors have a lot of states and behaviors depending on what I want them to do, I have a default behavior that acts sort of like a sims character, but you can touch and drag them around to make it enter lewd mode. All the IK and state machine related stuff isn't really the hard part, making them feel alive through animation blending is.
>but you can touch and drag them around
how would you accomplish that. some sort of active ragdoll ? do you know any tuts
I do the same thing but then just load them into VRChat and live out my fantasies by fricking VR people
Whats porn like on these bad bois? Will I be able to integrate some sweet joi vids woth that pass through feature?
2d or 3d ?
3D. Real teens telling me how pathetic I am.
>still sub 120 FOV in the year of fricking 2023
>Pimax still rocking 200
Pimax or frick off.
I'd rather not spend 2500 dollars.
It's 1,300$
????
>12k
That shit literally releases Q3 of NEXT year, moron.
The 8k is the current model and it's 200 FOV.
You are either lying or are misinformed.
>vision
Bro. I'm done even entertaining your stupid ass.
lmao, don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk
Who the frick buys those?
I heard the software support is abysmal
People who fall for their "unlimited fov" marketing.
> pimax
literally the most expensive and hated VR brand out there, worse than the pico. A lot of people report distortion with their high FOV headsets and end up returning. Don't fall for their specs, they are another chinese scam with great marketing.
If you really want to spend money go with the varjo. It's the real deal with microleds, just that it's expensive.
Is it still worse than Valve Index from fricking 2019?
Index was an outdated piece of shit the moment it came out with its potatoe resolution
I'll just wait for an index 2
SoonTM
it woudn't surprise me if this dude became a troony in a few years
Got a quest 2 for super cheap during the name change period
I checked to see my network query traffic one time and oculus was sending data out every couple seconds, millions of times over a couple weeks.
I blocked it and was working okay until Facebook bricked any devices that didn’t update
If I didn’t get it so cheap id be pissed but honestly vr is a one and done experience anyway
you can use the quest 2 and 3 offline
Facebook actually sells a model of the Quest with the botnet shit removed, but it's several hundred dollars more expensive. Imagine how much fricking data they're mining from you for it to be worth several hundred dollars PER PERSON
google
bing
yandex
Ganker
your phone's OS
literally every piece of software you use does that, besides you can block it.
I don't use any of that software except Ganker
>besides you can block it
except it will stop working, as anon mentioned
1) you update
2) you go offline
3) you play offline
You can’t block the quest unless you want to unblock and manually update it every couple of days.
The oculus software was using up more queries than the rest of my home network combined
Second place was the Xbox app
you can play offline.
> Second place was the Xbox app
my point. literally every app or website that you visit these days is harvesting tons of data. you can go ahead and try to block it or even better play offline.
>Facebook actually sells a model of the Quest with the botnet shit removed, but it's several hundred dollars more expensive
The Quest Pro?
I'm waiting for better games to come out before I justify buying a new headset. Something high quality like Alyx but much longer could convince me. I've been playing a lot of flat games like Baldur's Gate 3, Armored Core 6, Starfield, and the new Cyberpunk DLC but I don't see any games of that caliber coming out for VR. I've mostly just used my current headset for Truck Sim these days, might try Beam.ng when it goes on sale.
> let's not buy any headsets and wait for a company to magically make a AAA next gen title
great idea. let's keep waiting.
Based Valve actually did this, along with making a headset of their own. And it actually did end up being a success, but here we are years later and Alyx is still one of the only VR games worth playing
This but unironically. If multi billion dollar companies like Facebook, Valve, Sony, etc. want me to buy their junk they should at least give me a reason to. Alyx was good, they just have to keep doing that.
you can play cyberpunk VR with a quest
>4090
yeah bro let me just buy my entire PC in one GPU's price
*Smack*
I'm just saying it can be done. If you approach VR with a tinkerer's mindset you can have a lot of extra fun in addition to the VR only titles. There are VR mods for a lot of titles.
>No motion controls
>Need a 4090 to get 45fps
What's the point? If CD Projekt added a proper VR mode that ran well and let you move your arms around I'd consider it.
those american trannies they're too incompetent for that
Why is no one talking about the fact that a GAME CONSOLE comes with 128gb of storage with no way to expand it?
No SD card slot, no usb drive support, nothing. And they charge an extra $150 for a mere 384gbs more. A 512gb SD card literally costs $35
Why is shit like this legal
>GAME CONSOLE
huh ? game console that allows you to play indie and open source titles ? you don't need more than 128gb if you are playing on PC
You realize that almost every VR game announced this year is either Quest exclusive or PSVR and Quest only right
years of exclusives yet the only good quest game is a port of a gamecube game from 20 years ago (and even then, it's not that good since they fricked up the game balance and constantly force 3rd person mini-cutscenes). Don't get your hopes up about these new games, Facebook are terrible gatekeepers, they only fund the most bland stuff and give devs terrible orders
>either Quest exclusive or PSVR and Quest only right
yes ? PSVR is a let down and you need the PS5 in addition to the headset so that's roughly 1k.
Quest 3 having exclusives makes it attractive compared to all the other chinese shit out there.
If I get it it will just be a headset for my PC anyway. I'm still rocking my gen 1 rift, this will let me play wirelessly.
most games are only a few gigs, these are mobile games anon
>most games are only a few gigs
Game sizes are gonna get bigger due to Quest 3 supporting higher resolution textures.
Red Matter 2 on Quest 3 is almost double the size of the Quest 2 version and the Quest 2 version of Asgard's Wrath II will already be 25GB.
>10gb for red matter 2
again that's really not a whole lot, sure you'll get a game every once in a while that has a huge file size (medal of honor was 40gb) but how many games are you really rotating through? i even had the quest 2 64gb and never ran out of storage
Can't you backup and restore games to storage on your PC with sidequest? It doesn't seem very hard to rotate games and there are only like 1 or 2 games I even care about keeping on the headset. If a game is 40GB is probably has a PC version that is better anyway.
How do you get the quest to work with STEAM VR shit? I already have base stations, index controllers, fullbody trackers, the whole works. But that's all STEAM VR.
I'm aware there's work arounds or something? but man having to use third party jank shit sounds like a nightmare just to get a headset working with my steam VR shit
You need space calibrator+ovr advanced settings and it is pretty janky especially with the drift, I would stick with the bespoke controllers to save yourself the headache.
>bespoke controllers
what?
Look up a YouTube video on how to use quest controllers as body trackers. It explains how steam vr assigns the controllers and hmd. Has to do with order theyre connected when launching steam. Also explains some additional stuff to fix tracking. I dont remember who made the video
it's pretty damn easy.
1) download meta oculus app
2) choose either cabled or through wifi
3) launch steam vr and play
you missed the part where it installs facebook software on your PC that runs 24/7 even when you're not using VR
also you didn't mention all the steps it takes to get everything launched and connected, every time you want to play
anyone with a bit of brains can block those services when you are not using VR. In fact anyone using a PC should be already doing that, learning about and blocking unused services.
>anon finds out he needs to install drivers to use hardware
like the others said you can block that shit
and once it setup you literally just put on the headset, launch virtual desktop and launch a game
thats all there is to it
>just block the zuckerburg spyware!
>except for when you want to play, then turn it on
hurrrr
Is the Link performance improved at all? I can't play Beatsaber on anything but the grainiest settings without the Link getting laggy/dropping frames.
>get better toaster
13700k and 3080, it seems to be USB Bandwidth limitation, so only better coding/decoding would solve the issue.
I have a 4090 with a directly hooked up wifi 6e router and I still have 40+ms which makes rhythm games difficult. Just play the Quest native version of Beat Saber.
try this with airlink
https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GC-WBAX210-802-11ax-Bluetooth-Expansion/dp/B091HTG6DQ
if your internet is fast then airlink should be pretty damn fast assuming that your motherboard has a good network chipset.
You should be able to via cable. Even on high resolution encoding settings you should be getting sub 20ms latency at 120hz at 100-150mbps bitrate
I know frickall about these things but aren't they using something like DP alt mode? In which case it's not really usb doing the video.
Nah it's a pure data link of compressed video. Usually on most new standalone headset coming you get 5ms encode time, 3ms transmit and about 8-9 decode time on the headset.
Eh kinda weird way to implement it then
I think it's because they don't have the hardware required on the headset themselves for DP alt mode but I have no clue really.
I know the Pico 4 can do video out via USB but not video-in, it's kinda weird.
They got qualcomm to do a custom soc, they should've been able to include it.
I literally played pavlov a multiplayer game for many months using airlink/wifi. It's probably your hardware. make sure your mobo is running fine otherwise try airlink with a network PCIe card
>Is the Link performance improved at all?
no info yet but I'm going to cope and assume it will be since video compression has to be improved anyway for Mixed Reality usage.
>immediately devolves into subjective aesthetics of the headset as fluff
VR is a meme and nobody really cares about it. Stop coping.
>you are getting it right?
Gonna wait for reviews to see what the base comfort is like.
I have a Valve Index and tried the Quest 2 briefly but it caused headaches after like 15 minutes of use so I had to return it because I didn't find the standalone library interesting enough at the time to shell out more for an elite strap.
>caused headaches
that's pretty weird. maybe the strap was too tight ? The new default strap for the quest 3 has been improved though
https://www.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/comments/16whimm/ordered_quest_3_but_forgot_about_the_elite_strap/
>maybe the strap was too tight?
not sure, I just remember it feeling way too heavy on my face
VR makes me violently ill
Exposure therapy, anon.
Start short, then steadily take longer dives until you reach a point where you no longer get sick.
>cool colors
just buy some cloth paint
>Zucc is willing to lose 15 billion a year on selling Meta Quests but won't spend 3 billion making 20 fricking high quality Quest-only games to get people sucked into the ecosystem
Mind-blowing.
They're not making VR headsets to sell VR headsets, they're making VR headsets to develop their tech to reach a level where the tech becomes as convenient as mobile phones.
Yep, preordered mine already. I own quest 2, shitton of games and have really good time in it.
>No AAA games
Bros we are getting asgard wrath 2 bundled with quest3, Assasins creed looks like it's gonna be solid. Also more power will make it possible to make standalone ports of more advanced games.
Also 50 new games already confirmed until the end of the year, and another 50 will get visual upgrade.
We gonna eat bretty good vr bros
>quest 3 only has 6k orders on amazon
Sirs, what are we going to do??
Bloody benchood bastards are not buying the headset.
They are going to cut our pay, sirs.
>need to spend money on the Quest
>need to upgrade my GPU too so I can run at VR resolution and framerates
>need to upgrade my monitor too because 108060 is a waste for a good GPU
I think I'm gonna a little longer. Maybe HTC, Valve or Pico are gonna release something new in the meantime as well
>Sticking a Zuccbot proprietary tracking device to your face because its cheaper and lets you play games while data mining the frick out of you for some of the most insidious companies in the business who have thrown billions into getting that sweet, sweet always on monitoring tracking data from VR/AR.
Hard fricking pass. I'll pay more for Deckard for Linux support, FOSS drivers, SteamVR support and the like from a company that isn't interested in selling every single move I make to advertisers and data miners . .
>what is a firewall?
Oh you sweet summer child. A firewall? Atop the fact they'll make it working at all contingent on you letting it through and bundling the monitoring into the drivers you'll need to allow for it to work (surely windows only because of course), all the "wireless" is basically supported by the fact that there's basically a mobile phone strapped to your face that Zucc owns. You're not going to be able to plug that many holes in such a leaky bucket even i you were to try, but the thing is designed to obfuscate you even seeing where they are in the first place.
t. nincompoop who clearly doesn't know how firewalls work
>Moron who is massively overconfident because they set up a pi-hole or something once.
Even if you're talking about blocking on the network level AND you can sort out all the particular Quest 3 related content that is coming from both the HMD mounted SoC and whatever installable on your PC , AND you can figure out what's what through SPI and assume a lot of it isn't being encrypted (which is not likely, they'll say its for your safety of course), there's no reason why they wouldn't bundle it into something else - have you seen the fricking EULA for thse things? Oh, you updated the drivers, it saved all your gait data locally and then updated it pushing it along with the update for the drivers or the HMD's system etc. To say nothing for all of the "oh, I blocked it broadly and now it doesn't work, my games won't go online, I can;'t get updates, or anything I want to do with it has been basically removed" potential. Why jump through this many hoops for what may be a shitty outcome anyway when you can instead buy a device from a less shitty company?
Okay Zuccbot, sure go ahead and enjoy. I'm sure there are no drivers you use to enable that PCVR or other software, no other compatibility stuff, or varying software that isn't embedded in the games you're playing having to do with Meta specific SDK focused. Covering your eyes with your hands doesn't actually mean there's nothing in front of you.
We're in an era where every bit of personal data is being slurped up and sold. Facebook is among the most invasive and its not just about displaying ads - its about predictive behavior. Oh, do you have the gait that you're likely to be a fat frick? Do you only play in short bursts for physically active games? Well, all of that is sold in aggregate from meta to health insurance companies who will use it to cross reference it with the tendie add you clicked on and then say they need to raise premiums on people like you because AI.
moron, you just whitelist specific ip's on the local network to allow the quest to communicate with the PC and block every else.
It's that easy. You are moronic.
If you are dumb enough to think that simply whitelisting the connection on the LAN from the Quest to the PC is enough and there won't be any other complications I don't know what to tell you about that level of stupid.
It is enough, I'm 20 times more competent than you and I do that.
Haha. Okay sure kiddo, whatever you say. I bet you're a Navy SEAL too.
It literally is.
You think it isn't because you still lack in experience.
you are reaching schizo levels that shouldn't be possible.
At this point why are you using a computer or a phone ? have you heard that all processors (intel and amd) have back doors ? Just shut everything down and go innawoods with a tinfoil hat
>Biggest invasive data sucking company engaged in data sucking on a product they own and make available at low prices because of the data they'll be grabbing from users? SCHIZO OMG!
You're going out of your way to fellate an advertising company. That can't taste very good.
Do you know Ganker harvests data ?
Do you know that your OS harvests data ?
Do you know that your phone's OS harvests data ?
Do you know that every fricking search engine harvests data ?
>Ganker
Yes. I also know how to block it and the scope of which it does so.
>OS
Even on Windows it can be attenuated depending on the version, but I use Linux anyway which does not and even if some part of it did, I would see the exact data, method, etc.. due to it being FOSS
>PhoneOS
Yes, that's a major problem with standard mobile OSes. Custom AOSP/FOSS ROMs from LineageOS/DivestOS/GrapheneOS and and others can massively cut down it and to and by whom at least on the Android side.
>Every fricking search engine
SearX doesn't. Also search engines vary significantly based on what they do and the amount they profile, what they keep and why. DuckDuckGo or Startpage aren't the same as Bing or Google in this regard. Choosing to use search engines that are more privacy respecting and don't bubble you into a profile are helpful.
Ultimately its about context, capability, and potential harm for potential gain. I have no problem sending Firefox metrics to Mozilla because they'er open source so I can see exactly what is being transmitted and why, they're not personally identifiable, and most importantly Mozilla's goal to make a capable browser and be known as a privacy and user centric company is totally different from an advertising data mining company; I would NOT want to give the same access to Chrome/ium, designed for the benefit of a search and data mining company. With Facebook who has been some of the most egregious in what data they collect, behavior like creating shadow profiles to make a "you shaped hole" simply because you're referenced by other people who are on their platform , mining and exploiing shit along with advertising...doesn't seem a good choice to buy a tracking device from the company and let them strap it to my face and exfiltrate every bit of data they can while used..
None of the exploitative shit is good, but its not all equal either and some things are far better. see no reason to by a headset from Zucc.
>Well, all of that is sold in aggregate from meta to health insurance companies who will use it to cross reference it with the tendie add you clicked on and then say they need to raise premiums on people like you because AI.
Yea, health insurance company will base the price off of how much you play your pirated fitness games on your VR porn device. LMFAO. Imagine being this delusional. If any device does this it would be a smart watch that actually keeps track of that
Its not about YOU specifically, its about the aggregate. They'll have a study that shows that "VR owners who have this gait style are likely to put obese weights in games that track fitness or calories, etc" and then cross reference that with "men 25-45 who are obese and on VR gaming sites are 35% more likely to click on an ad for tendies". and though lots of other data points, not just on you but every other group your data indicates they think you could be a part of. Go look up how ad networks detected someone was pregnant before they knew it themselves and started showing them diapers, because they had all the data points for women in childbearing age who had cravings for X and why am I so moody and searched for missing a period and everything else , applied to thousands of people, gives a likely picture.
The health insurance company will buy all this data including from your VR porn device and claim that men of your age who are likely to own a VR device, with this education, with this likely weight, eating style etc... are bigger health risks because they put it all into the data-matic AI algoritm 2.0 and it popped out "we are justified charging this group of customers more because THE DATA says that its likely they're going to be more costly to us". That's not even talking about other forms of bullshit involved but its pretty commonplace, but no its not based on simply "Oh Meta gave Anon1235's VR data to his health insurance company and they raised the rate" , which is why its way more insidious.
Imagine being a paranoid schizophrenic and not knowing how to operate a firewall.
Lmao.
tinfoil hat, now
That sure is a lot of text.
Why don't you start learning how a firewall works?
funny how other anons think you're paranoid when this is just basic ad-tech from the web 2.0 days
You are moronic and don't know anything.
Not even going to read the whole post.
t. someone with a quest which didn't connect to the internet in the last 1.5 years yet works flawlessly for wireless pcvr
>Sticking a Zuccbot proprietary tracking device to your face because its cheaper and lets you play games while data mining the frick out of you for some of the most insidious companies in the business
Even if it does, literally who cares? Like are you scared an advertisement might be more relevant to you? I do not understand.
>just let companies spy on you!
pathetic attitude
>woman who had left their hotel room
Lol, the contortions they have to go through to not say “girlfriend” and make it immediately obvious that it isn’t a big deal at all.
fool me once.
I saw thumbnail and thought it was Fuecoco
same
a pc hack for the psvr2 is the only thing i'm interested in since it has all the features i want, inside out tracking and foveated rendering.
imagine arguing which bottom of the barrel shit headset is the bestest
lol
imagine spending more than 500 bucks on a headset
lol
>imagine thinking 500 is a lot of money
I honestly this was another AI image thread from a distance
i already have a pico
>no games
nah
https://store.steampowered.com/vr
>I Expect You To Die 3
wtf I didn't even know they made a 2 now my CV1 is broken and I can't play it
Just buy a Quest 3 or a Pico 5 if you're content with waiting another year.
There's a 90% chance I buy a Quest 3 before the Asgard's Wrath promotion ends. I'm not thrilled about 128GB, but whatever. I'll transition it into a PCVR headset after I upgrade my PC eventually.
>pretty fricking terrible
How?
Imagine thinking the quest 3 is a console
that's like saying there are no games for the nvidia rtx 4090
big fat lol
Only has shit games. The one good game that has ever been made for it, hl alyx, isn't even on it.
Do you still have to log into it with a meta/facebook account? I remember that was a thing when they first came out.
I thought it was already confirmed months ago that the quest 3 had the same fov as the quest 2
>no native Steam VR support
Still a hard pass from me Mr. Zuck. My Quest 2 is collecting dust because I can't be bothered to put it on and navigate around the software. Also the PC app installs drivers and shit that fricks with my audio and always runs in the background.
Standalone would be fine if it had an option to automatically launch a game when putting it on. Again, the software is so crap.
just use virtual desktop
is it still:-
Start Quest. Go to menu and select PCVR.
Window Opens on PC with Oculus stuff
Go in and select SteamVR
Window opens with SteamVR
Select game
Game starts.. but you forgot something so you need to exit out of 3 different layers to change a setting before you can go back in and try again
why are you such a moron it's literally open the oculus app and steam then execute.
also there's many ways to do it if you don't want the oculus client
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/14b7jwd/guide_how_to_use_the_quest_2_for_pcvr_without_the/
why are you such a moron. That's literally what I said
stupid c**t
What?
https://www.roadtovr.com/quest-3-oculus-link-air-pc-steamvr-support/
>Link
Not native, it goes through an Oculus runtime.
It's no more convenient than Air Link and still a pain in the ass to use Index controllers with.
I would get it n
But it's everything wrong with israelite gadgetry:
No expandable storage (150bucks pre-tax for 384Gig of memory? really??)
Battery is hard as shit to replace
Accessories at ludicrous prizes, and of course Quest 2 headstraps don't fit.
Walled garden ruled by Facebook.
It's a terrible shame because the core tech looks amazing but all this ruins it for me
why do you need storage, porn is streamed from PC or NAS, games are mobile tier with low quality textures
>Walled garden ruled by Facebook.
you can play every VR game that ever existed and some oculus exclusives
Yeah on PC, the standalone headset is worthless on it's own because of that.
Limiting yourself to a wifi-connection when you COULD have a completely standalone porn experience is just stupid Anon. Also, isn't that Asscreed game gonna be like 30gigs? 128gig is so small these days.
Frick are you talking about moron?
>Limiting yourself to a wifi-connection
you're not playing beatsaber, the wifi lag is ok for porn or vrchat
>you're not playing beatsaber
Only if you are moronic and don't have a good PC.
You can get latency lower than index at 80hz easily.
> No expandable storage
> Battery is hard as shit to replace
> Accessories at ludicrous prizes
> Walled garden ruled by Facebook.
An iphone is 1000 dollars and you cannot replace anything. you are complaining about shit that doesn't make any fricking sense specially for a vr headset. if 400 bucks is too much for a fricking headset then newsflash you are a poor homosexual that needs a job.
bobovr head mount has a magnet battery holder, zuck is being moroner not to copy 3rd party shit that does the job
500bucks, pre-tax mr. Shill. Comparing it to an iPhone just proves my point, shit's moronic and I won't support it. It's far from irrelevant.
The battery is gonna die eventually, it's inevitable. You'll regret defending this shit when it does you mouthbreather.
>The battery is gonna die eventually, it's inevitable
yes as with any battery in any device.
if you buy a tesla its battery will last between 300k and 500k miles.
That's around 20 years. after that it's gone. Do you hate that ? Do you want products to last forever ?
it's not going to happen you fricking moron so stop complaining and get a real job.
Why are you defending Facebook? Are you 12, or are you a shill?
Why are you so fixated on them ? First of all it's Meta.
second every company is the same. they want the highest amount of profits and they want your data. Fixating on meta like a moron shows you how little you know about how every other company works.
>First of all it's Meta.
NTA, but good morning, sir.
>The battery is gonna die eventually
just sell it before it does lmao
this is breakthrough tech cheaper than a phone at 400 dollars, why do you always expect the cheapest shit possible ?
No.
What is the second controller for?
I'll get one after it's hacked
It's runs the same software as the Quest 2 it's probably already hacked
Hacked? For what?
they think that it's a phone that you need jailbroken so you can play pirated games LOL
Is the only good Quest game still the RE4 port?
>needs to use fricking Oculus/Meta shit
Hard pass
>still no games
https://www.uploadvr.com/best-oculus-quest-games/
>exact same games from 4+ years ago
still no games
Black person most of that list is within the past 3 years
Again Quest 3 is not a console. it's a headset, in some ways similar to a GPU.
Do you ask which games are available for the nvidia rtx 4090 ? no right you would sound like a stupid moron because any game is playable with an nvidia rtx 4090.
You can play any VR game with the quest 3 at a higher resolution, refresh rate, comfort and portability compared to the rest of the headsets out there.
What part of "standalone" headset don't you understand?
What part of "you can stream PC games on the fricking thing" don't you understand?
the part where that's only a side feature
>side feature
Oh not at all. It's a gizzlebob.
I see
I'm glad you understand.
You sound like a stupid moron who is coping with no games.
dude
Resident evil 4 vr
Assassin's creed VR
Dungeons Of Eternity Coop VR
Ghost Signal
Red Matter
BAM
The 7th Guest VR
Vail VR
I Expect You to Die 2
Arashi: Castles of Sin
literally any VR game on pc you can play on quest
The only good game on that list is a remake.
That's what we call a "no games"
The 7th Guest VR?
half of those are Quest exclusives you dolt, you have to play them on the mobile hardware
>no right you would sound like a stupid moron because any game is playable
no, it's really not, vivecraft and skyrimVR is still putting mine to its knees constantly, and it's not like I'm going hyper ballistic on eyecandy mods
though not that it matters, because there's still no games out there that I haven't already played
You just proved him right.
Will it make RE4 VR play/look any better?
depends if Armature update it.
Yes. higher res and refresh rate. most popular games will be updated for the quest 3.
>Cucked tracking
>No facetracking/future foothold into foveated rendering
>Frontloaded
>Worse colors and no local dimming
Thanks but im keeping my white man's headset
Either get a Quest 3 or a bigscreen beyond not this useless middleground pos
read that as "my wife man's headset"
>cucked tracking
>he says while posting a headset that had its depth sensor removed because it could be used to see through clothes
ironic
No use for tracking, now try to move controlers behind yourself or above your head
you know those controllers can be used on Quest 2 and 3, right?
Behind the back tracking more than what the Quest 2 can already do is pointless, and the headset uses depth sensors/camera to track arms/elbows for above the head tracking
>you are getting it right ?
To play what exactly?
porn, the games are a bonus
https://www.uploadvr.com/best-vr-games/
>facebook
Never ever ever will I use any of their products
Ummmm excuse me
It's Meta now
She has transitioned
good point
People didn't like that you needed a Facebook account because they could randomly ban your account for being fake unless you actually use it like Facebook and have a bunch of friends or prove you're real by giving them your drivers license... not because "info being stolen"
Meta requires a Facebook account anyway. I used a Bob Jones for a facebook to play and it was "locked" because it was flagged as fraud, the meta account was locked too because of this. When I contacted support they suggested that I had used Facebook either not at all or irregularly, and that this often triggers it to be locked. I did not get it unlocked despite them telling me this
I just opened an incognito window and made an account with email. It didn't ask for a Facebook account or phone number...
I've had an acc for years and dont use it other than for gaming. it's still there. why would you lie ?
Looks like Virtual Desktop will be getting some Quest 3/Nvidia 4000 improvements
>Added face/eye tracking with VRChat on Quest Pro
That's cool.
Hopefully they can put in the full body tracking on Quest 3 once that SKU launches in December.
The real reason I won't get a quest isn't a meta account. I can make a throwaway email and sideload everything. The real reason is you have to install oculus software on your PC which is probably spying on everything it legally can
>no eye tracking
Nothx