I had both and have beaten each one numerous times
original is better
TS was good but it didn't do enough to reimagine the level design and boss fights. also it has a terrible color palette and inferior performances with its voice acting for some reason despite having most of the cast returning.
>inferior performances with its voice acting for some reason despite having most of the cast returning.
Easily the most egregious problem about Twin Snakes to me. I would like the game a lot more if they had just reused the old dub or just didn't sound like they were all phoning it the frick in.
It's simple: more demand than ones that want to sell - price goes high.
And thus when the game is shit, that will not happen, unless it's some 1000 copies printed game, which Twin Snakes wasn't.
Weak bait, you homosexual troll. Nobody likes the Twin Snakes, it's inferior in almost every regard
11 months ago
Anonymous
Only son!ggers hate it
They jelly and scream for remakes themselves
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm the number one Nintendo GameCube mark on planet Earth and think Twin Snakes sucks
11 months ago
Anonymous
no, you lie.
You are a Sony lover, and you are gay.
And Ellie is your favorite character, because she's gay.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I am also *one of* the biggest PS1 and PS2 marks on Earth, but I honest to god haven't played The Last of Us games. One of my old friends said that The Last of Us 2 was one of the best games ever made, and I just don't know if I believe him. I liked the Crash and Jak games but kinda fell off around the end of the first Uncharted game. Thanks for subscribing.
It was a back to back remake that didn't improve on shit, Sure it added the tranq gun along with the first person view of MGS2 & MGS3 but that totally broke the whole fricking game thus removing any kind of challenge because the level design and boss fights were not changed to compensate for these "new" modifications.
Granted they only had a year to work on it and wanted to add something new but with a fixed deadline by a shitty company that was trying it's hardest to boost Gamecube sales there was only so much they could do. So they decided to just carbon copy ps1 version into the 6th generation.
There is a reason why the remake of Resident Evil 1 is actually loved more than Twin Shites, and it sold a hell of lot better too. Only thing you could praise about the game was the cutscenes but then again some of them were actually moronic. Snake literally dodging bullets like fricking Neo.
Sony cuck still upset the better mgs game got ported to GC
Reminder that Kojima purposely sabotaged the Twin Snakes remake by telling them that they couldn't have the cutscenes being 1:1, and for them to exagerate them more.
Kojima has previously said he doesn't believe in remakes, he doesn't want anyone changing his original vision in any way, which is why people who like Twin Snakes unironically, and people who complain about MGS Delta not having Kojima involved are equally moronic.
The director had done a 1:1 recreation of the original cutscenes,it looked great, and Kojima told him to add all the Matrix shit since it didn't want it to be a replacement for his original game, rather he wanted it to be an additive.
He purposely sabotaged the project to protect his ego, Kojima has already said multiple times he doesn't believe in remakes, it's pretty self explanatory,it wasn't the Director's fault, Kojima's opinion was above his and he had to comply.
Which is why people who want MGS Delta to have any Kojima involvment are moronic, he would purposely ruin the project and destroy the team's reputation because he's a narcissist and egomaniac
>it doesn't look bad, have they fixed the problems of the ps3 and psvita hd versions?
They haven't even increased the resolution. It's still running at 720p >THATS THE SWITCH VERSION
No, that trailer is not using switch footage.
it makes sense for it to run at 720p as it was originally, so it can run well on switch
obviously on next-gen consoles and pc it will run at higher resolution or 4k
I was also talking about the post effects anyway, which I remember were very broken on hd versions compared to the PS2 version
there was a DF review talking about that but I can't find it
B being used for 決定 (confirm) is how you know it's Switch in Japan. Xbox uses A
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Xbox uses A from "confirm"
in japan? don't they respect the "confirm and cancel" buttons, and the only one that doesn't is playstation?
also, this game is not confirmed for switch, and only used it as an example as a trailer made on another platform, but is used for the launch of the other ones, and pc
remember also that developers always work their games on the weakest platform first, it's easier to develop that way
>METAL GEAR SOLID: MASTER COLLECTION Vol. 1 launches October 24, 2023 for Nintendo Switch™, PlayStation®5, Xbox Series X|S, and Steam®. >Steam >Pre-order now!
I can find it on SteamDB, but the actual Steam store page for this seems to be missing. I guess their definition of the word 'now' is a bit different?
That's pretty nice of them actually, if the remaster turns out shit you can actually play the original instead of it, better than what Rockstar did with the older GTA games.
Wonder if the NES games are also included elsewhere or if that's a Nintendo exclusive. If it is, that's the best kind of exclusive: one that's a neat addition but also no big loss to not have.
>Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported. >Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported. >Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported. >Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported. >Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported.
When you get to the psycho mantis boss fight, how did you beat him? I tried pu
Lugging the keyboard and mouse into different USB ports but I still couldn't beat him.
That was like 10 years ago so I don't remember if it even did the control frickery it was supposed to. Doubt it
I didn't use the mouse though, only the keyboard for everything including aim.
Yupp. Literally emulating a 7th gen game without increasing the internal resolution.
People are getting hyped for what is going to be one of the most dogshit ports in recent memory. I'm glad I'm at least seeing through it early.
The last two collections that had that disclaimer on steam were No More Heroes and Ninja Gaiden. What did they have in common, besides not being able to be played with kbm? The games were all utter garbage ports
the only justification to play MGS with a keyboard is during the psycho mantis fight where you have to switch to it since you don't have a second controller
the screenshot is clearly not 1080p native, you can easily see as much because its blurry, its been upscaled as opposed to having increased its resolution.
Here's an example. One of these is native 1846x1383, the other is upscaled from 720p to that resolution.
You can probably tell which one is native and which one has been upscaled.
1/2
both look good to my eye
11 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
I'm so glad I'm not a gwafixgay (or any kind of gay), I'm gonna stuff this slop right down my throat and I'm going to enjoy it
[...]
I can't find a single difference without zooming in x15 (which I haven't done)
[...]
I see the difference, but it's a minor inconvenience for autists who cry and shit themselves in their chairs... in general. Nothing even triggers it, they just do it.
I can't find a single difference without zooming in x15 (which I haven't done)
11 months ago
Anonymous
that really sucks about your bad eyesight, but luckily there are prescription glasses out there for you.
all the best
11 months ago
Anonymous
just look at the bottles in the back, the lights on the ceiling, the stairs
im nta and not bothered by the lower resolution at all but your iq must be low if you need this level of spoonfeeding to see a difference
I see the difference, but it's a minor inconvenience for autists who cry and shit themselves in their chairs... in general. Nothing even triggers it, they just do it.
Those are three of my favorite video games, and I like my Switch. Did you know that one of the signs of autism is an inability to understand differences in opinion?
>Did you know that one of the signs of autism is an inability to understand differences in opinion?
wow really got me, where'd ya read that one, Sunday morning newspaper comics?
Yeah, Beetle Bailey broke the fourth wall and said that right into the camera in the last panel seemingly apropos of nothing. Really threw me for a loop.
an actual, not byte-sized and mission based MGS in your pocket was mindblowing, but that was like a decade ago though. I imagine the novelty has worn off with the Switch and Steam Deck.
Certainly not as mindblowing as the Vita releases were at the time, no, but I just think these games are a good fit for that console. I appreciate that they included the motion comics in this compilation, too.
Konami opting to port the original kino MGS1 instead of Twin Snakes to PC gives me a lot more hope for MGS3 remake. I just hope it's the PS1 version not the Integral one, same goes for the MGS2 port
Might sound gay but the only reason I hate Integral is because they used the normal boss theme for Gray Fox getting pinned by Rex and second phase Rex instead of the Escape music like in the PS1 version
Nothing gay about having opinions. I have a JP copy of Integral that I picked up because I was interested in first-person mode and never actually played the VR missions when I was younger. It's my favorite version now.
>NO KEYBOARD SUPPORT
lmfao its going to be the bluepoint shit verbatim compiled for pc
they made an opengl port for the Nvidia shield and now they're literally rereleasing that but for x86. port shitkino incoming
it's hilarious that people aren't seeing it when its so blatantly going to be a dogshit port. Man is this going to turn into a massive shitstorm when it actually drops. People really are sticking their head in the sand right now
i'm mad that it's not uncapped, and that the extra stuff from the mgs2 and 3 PS2 rereleases like online and that skateboard minigame aren't coming at all. that shit is stuck on the ps2 forever
Could just be PW + PO. Porting MGS4 would be a licensing nightmare and I don't see Konami putting that effort, they didn't do it on the 360 what makes you think they'll do it now?
>they didn't do it on the 360 what makes you think they'll do it now?
Anon, do you live under the rock?
>During my first week as a Konami employee working on Metal Gear Solid 4, I’ll never forget seeing the profound disappointment on my colleagues’ faces when they began to dig deep into the first-run PlayStation 3 development kits. >Like the public at large, the Kojima Productions team believed Sony’s hyperbole about its incredible next-gen hardware; however, when it came down to actually pushing pixels through the PS3, everyone was underwhelmed. The team was warned ahead of time that the hardware would be difficult to develop for, but they had no idea how bad it would end up being.
>Despite how downtrodden my colleagues were with developing on PS3, most of them were still hardcore Sony fans and were not in favor of spending resources on such a test. They believed MGS 4 would look and run terribly on Microsoft’s older and inferior hardware. >One fateful day, the Konami R&D team hosted a meeting where we got to see the fruits of their labor—Metal Gear Solid 4 running beautifully and smoothly on an Xbox 360. As one of the few unabashed Xbox fans in the office, I was excited.
>The prevailing belief around the industry was that Sony must have secured an exclusive deal for the game. It wasn’t true. Had Kojima chosen to port the game to Xbox 360, his bosses would surely have approved the decision, but he wasn’t ready to make the jump.
if it was that easy konami wouldve brought it to the 360 and doubled their income on this high budget game
dont believe what this american gaijin "assistant producer of the opening movie and podcast" xbox fan has to say
11 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe you'll listen to Kojima instead
https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/02/metal-gear-solid-4-too-enormous-for-xbox-360
inb4 hurr durr translated by shitaku so it doesn't cout
11 months ago
Anonymous
>literally says it would be impossible to bring out on 360
thanks for proving my point? lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
Point out the exact sentence where he LITERALLY said it's impossible.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The title LITERALLY implies it would never work on the 360 you illiterate ape
11 months ago
Anonymous
You now realize there were games "back in the day" (over a decade before you were born zoomy) that had 3, 5, 7 or even more discs to play.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>hes over 25 and still plays kids videogames and browses Ganker all day long
LOL
11 months ago
Anonymous
I can't speak for that guy, but I really only browse Ganker when I'm at work and have nothing else to do.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>have nothing else to do
So you're here 24/7
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, I said I post here when I have nothing else to do at work. Your reading comprehension is bad, and you smell bad in real life.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you mean that you would have written >when I have nothing to do while at work
Instead you wrote >I post here while 1) I am at work 2) I have nothing to do
Meaning either at work or while doing nothing
11 months ago
Anonymous
Are you developmentally disabled?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>and means or
t. ESLkun
11 months ago
Anonymous
ya it's sad but surely better than leddit or tweeter
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The title
Made up by the author, not said by Kojima.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but did you think I cared about the 360 or something Black person? It was just an example that if Konami would have wanted the game in other platforms they would have more than done it at this point.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Not him >but did you think I cared about the 360 or something Black person?
how the hell am i supposed to know if you cared about something if you didnt even write the post i replied to
I bet Ghost Babel is gonna be in volume 2, but I agree that it would have made a little more sense to stick it in the compilation that has MGS2.
Volume 2 will likely have Ghost Babel and all of the PSP games. I'd love for MGS4 to get ported to something else but am skeptical that it ever will considering how much PlayStation stuff is in that game.
>it doesn't look bad, have they fixed the problems of the ps3 and psvita hd versions?
They haven't even increased the resolution. It's still running at 720p >THATS THE SWITCH VERSION
No, that trailer is not using switch footage.
Top is the trailer
Bottom is the ps3 version upscaled to 1080p. It's obviously not native 1080p
>Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported.
You guys realize this is basically like releasing a game on PS5 and saying the PS5 controller isn't supported
These are definitely gonna be the lowest effort ports imaginable maybe even worse than the Ninja Gaiden ports
It's obvious Konami really doesn't care about MGS at all they are just jumping on the port/remake bandwagon because they saw Nintendo and Capcom were successful with it
I don't think it's that unreasonable to demand controller support from customers on a platform where they can already play these games on a keyboard for free.
>they are just jumping on the port/remake bandwagon because they saw Nintendo and Capcom were successful with it
nigaa theyve been releasing a collection every generation this aint new to the series
Except this is fricking dumb. The game is designed around the controller only. It's like demanding dark souls add a story mode difficulty (though I'm sure a moron like you would like that).
>It's a direct port of the HD collection
it isn't, it's likely emulating the HD collection, because as we've seen the internal resolution of the game has not been increased, it is literally stuck on 720p
Imagine releasing a game in 2023 that has a forced 720p res that you cannot go over. Give me one good reason this isn't running native 4k on all systems (except switch) please.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Give me one good reason this isn't running native 4k on all systems (except switch) please.
because it would require effort, time and money?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>making a PS3 or 360 emulator, at the top of PSX emulator on 4 completely different platforms
Frick off, moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
you are going to be so disappointed when you find out I'm 100% correct, lol.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I'm sure Konami is casually releasing a perfect low performance 360 emulator for PS5, PC and even Switch.
11 months ago
Anonymous
EXPLAIN WHY THE FOOTAGE IS 720P THEN YOU FRICKING moron
WHY DID THEY RELEASE A TRAILER RUNNING AT 720P UPSCALED TO 1080P??? WHY??? WHY WOULD THEY POSSIBLY FRICKING DO THIS UNLESS THE GAME IS LITERALLY THE EMULATED 360 GAME
>it doesn't look bad, have they fixed the problems of the ps3 and psvita hd versions?
They haven't even increased the resolution. It's still running at 720p >THATS THE SWITCH VERSION
No, that trailer is not using switch footage.
>it doesn't look bad, have they fixed the problems of the ps3 and psvita hd versions?
They haven't even increased the resolution. It's still running at 720p >THATS THE SWITCH VERSION
No, that trailer is not using switch footage.
>it doesn't look bad, have they fixed the problems of the ps3 and psvita hd versions?
They haven't even increased the resolution. It's still running at 720p >THATS THE SWITCH VERSION
No, that trailer is not using switch footage.
>it doesn't look bad, have they fixed the problems of the ps3 and psvita hd versions?
They haven't even increased the resolution. It's still running at 720p >THATS THE SWITCH VERSION
No, that trailer is not using switch footage.
Please. Please explain logically why ALL footage they've shown of this is not even 1080p native. If you have a good answer for this I'll entertain the idea that this isn't going to be a dogshit re-release.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They're reusing the footage recorded for HD Collection
11 months ago
Anonymous
>EXPLAIN WHY THE FOOTAGE IS 720P THEN YOU FRICKING moron
Because it's easily available and not the final product? Stop being such a fricking schizo lmao
dear god the absolute denial. Just accept it now and avoid disappointment later.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Pretending to act moronic should be a bannable offense
11 months ago
Anonymous
Feel free to elaborate on how much easier it is to make functional emulators for 4 separate platform, than replacing specific API calls and compiling the build for new platforms.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Increasing the internal resolution is probably trivial task, I'll be surprised if it'll be forced 720p. There's no reason PC or new consoles can't be played at 4k, RPCS3 proves it's doable
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Increasing the internal resolution is probably trivial task
Obviously it is, but we're talking about Konami here and so far there's no reason to believe this is going to be a good port
11 months ago
Anonymous
>EXPLAIN WHY THE FOOTAGE IS 720P THEN YOU FRICKING moron
Because it's easily available and not the final product? Stop being such a fricking schizo lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Schizoposter has a meltdown and can't have a civil argument
Fricking everytime. You need to leave.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Shut the frick up, you are adding nothing to this thread.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you're right then we'll have a 360 emulator to shim some games into
No its not i completed every ds game with kb+m and had the best experience, kb+m is best, only games that works well with shitcontroller are racing games
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cope: the post
11 months ago
Anonymous
ok but that isn't usually the case for non-moronic people
>game has telltale signs of being a garbage port >"nah bro, it's going to be different this time. Based konami. I'm not moronic, you are"
consume some more, homosexual
Literally the only telltale sign you've given is that it doesn't have a control scheme that the game wasn't designed for and would break the game. Go buy the remake if you want a shooter you fricking zoomer
>Literally the only telltale sign you've given is that it doesn't have a control scheme that the game wasn't designed for and would break the game
Damn, if only we had recent examples of shit ports that prove that not having something as simple as kbm supports is a sign that the developers really didn't a shit, right?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Are you legitimately mentally deficient? The game is not designed for keyboard and mouse. It is not a game to be played on keyboard and mouse. They have made the remake for you homosexuals that need a generic Horizon: God of the Last of Us style control scheme.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Doesn't matter, it's the bare minimum, If they can't even do that, there's also a great chance that the game won't even have basic PC settings e.g. Ninja Gaiden
Original MGS2 doesn't have Snake Tales and VR missions, maybe some other stuff, and original MGS3 has only a fixed camera option as the biggest thing. Both also missing extra difficulty setting
Substance and Subsistence were second versions of MGS2 and 3 that included some extra stuff. MGS2 Substance came with a skateboarding minigame, but I can't remember what else changed. MGS3 was drastically changed in Subsistence. Subsistence gives you the option of using a 3rd person camera instead of the traditional overhead camera. It also adds Snake vs. Monkey (Snake has to hunt some Escaped Apes) and curiously removes a dream sequence from the game.
>It also adds Snake vs. Monkey (Snake has to hunt some Escaped Apes) and curiously removes a dream sequence from the game.
JFC, how can you still be wrong?
>people always complain about how MGS2 is just a bunch of codec calls and cutscenes with no gameplay >meanwhile the VR mode with 500 missions goes unplayed
11 months ago
Anonymous
Vr mode is included in the HD collection
11 months ago
Anonymous
I remember people wanting the VR missions a lot more than the other bullshit
I'm not really sure what you're talking about. I definitely played Subsistence earlier this year and played Snake vs. Monkey after I beat the main game. Guy Savage is also not in Subsistence if I'm not mistaken.
Snake vs. Monkey was already present in the original. Guy Savage was still in Subsistence.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh, my bad.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm probably thinking of the HD Collection with regards to Guy Savage, now that I think of it. I owned the "Essential Collection" of these games when I was younger, and since that only came with the first disc of Subsitence I got some wires crossed with Snake vs. Monkey.
This is partially incorrect. MGS 3 while not Subsistence, has the 3D camera of Subsistence. It just doesn't have the bonus features. And in regards to MGS 2, again you're just missing the bonus features. Oh well.
lol moron, they dont even bother saying substance or subsistence anymore, where have you been. subsistence and substance are just considered the default now. Look at the HD collection, 2 and 3 did not have substance or subsistence on the cover but it was in fact, those versions of those games
>be microloser >always haave to scrape the bottom of the barrel >pray every day to bill gates for a pc port, even if its ported terribly >have hope everyday that a 10 year old game gets ported >try to act like theyre happy with the leftover scraps they get years after a game is originally released
sonyCHVDS stay winning
>Is that why Horizon, God of War and Spider-Man aren't on the image?
i have no idea why theyre not on the image since i literally took it off google images
its not that deep autist
i literally wrote that on the original post with the image
>be microloser >always haave to scrape the bottom of the barrel >pray every day to bill gates for a pc port, even if its ported terribly >have hope everyday that a 10 year old game gets ported >try to act like theyre happy with the leftover scraps they get years after a game is originally released
sonyCHVDS stay winning
It really bothers me when PC players demand keyboard and mouse support because it means they're so stubborn that they'd rather just play games with worse controls. The mouse wouldn't even serve any purpose in MGS1 or 2.
>MGS makes a comeback >schizoposts left and right out the ass, no reading comprehension, no logical train of thought, absolutely gormless
just like old times
>game gets developed exclusively for the ps3 since the start of development >somehow they just manage to pop the bluray cd in a 360 and get it to run
very big
It was on devkit, schizo.
It being developed in mind with blu ray was superficially why they didn't port it to consumer console. In 2013 Kojima said there's nothing that would prevent MGS4 from appearing on the next Xbox (Xbone)
>One fateful day, the Konami R&D team hosted a meeting where we got to see the fruits of their labor—Metal Gear Solid 4 running beautifully and smoothly on an Xbox 360. As one of the few unabashed Xbox fans in the office, I was excited.
Consider jumping off a bridge, snoy
11 months ago
Anonymous
>xbox fan making up stuff
color me shamboozled
11 months ago
Anonymous
Literally the words of MGS4's assistant producer, a person that actually worked on the fricking game, unlike some tech illiterate self proclaimed intellectual, just because he played Kojima's games.
>During my first week as a Konami employee working on Metal Gear Solid 4, I’ll never forget seeing the profound disappointment on my colleagues’ faces when they began to dig deep into the first-run PlayStation 3 development kits. >Like the public at large, the Kojima Productions team believed Sony’s hyperbole about its incredible next-gen hardware; however, when it came down to actually pushing pixels through the PS3, everyone was underwhelmed. The team was warned ahead of time that the hardware would be difficult to develop for, but they had no idea how bad it would end up being.
>Despite how downtrodden my colleagues were with developing on PS3, most of them were still hardcore Sony fans and were not in favor of spending resources on such a test. They believed MGS 4 would look and run terribly on Microsoft’s older and inferior hardware. >One fateful day, the Konami R&D team hosted a meeting where we got to see the fruits of their labor—Metal Gear Solid 4 running beautifully and smoothly on an Xbox 360. As one of the few unabashed Xbox fans in the office, I was excited.
>The prevailing belief around the industry was that Sony must have secured an exclusive deal for the game. It wasn’t true. Had Kojima chosen to port the game to Xbox 360, his bosses would surely have approved the decision, but he wasn’t ready to make the jump.
>>The prevailing belief around the industry was that Sony must have secured an exclusive deal for the game.
is this why theres sony systems and controllers all over the game >this "assistant producer" was a gaijin whiteboi who was hired to make podcasts
im sure he knows anything about the actual development LMAO
11 months ago
Anonymous
>is this why theres sony systems and controllers all over the game
Didn't know MGS4 was on Mac and classic non-touch iPod. >>this "assistant producer" was a gaijin whiteboi who was hired to make podcasts >im sure he knows anything about the actual development LMAO
Sure, a person that is actually credited for the game has no idea about the game itself. I wonder what's the point of crediting Kojima in the first place.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you believe voice actors know a thing about developing as well? >whiteboi american who is a self-claimed xbox fan credited for the opening movie and the podcast
LOL VERY TRUSTWORTHY
11 months ago
Anonymous
MGS1 also referenced the PS1 and yet it's on the PC
11 months ago
Anonymous
with the ps1 references cut
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah but Sony aren't dickbags anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if they allowed the references to remain.
More work would probably need to go into reskinning all the licensed shit like Calorie Mates and iPods and getting rid of licensed music.
>developed in mind with blu ray >THINK OF ALL THE UNCOMPRESSED AUDIO!!!
Yeah, I remember the MANDATORY INSTALLSTIONS because of the fricking slow as frick Blu-ray shit drive
>Yeah, I remember the MANDATORY INSTALLSTIONS because of the fricking slow as frick Blu-ray shit drive
now were in 2023 and we still need mandatory installations on last gen consoles
11 months ago
Anonymous
>last gen consoles
my Wii, Wii U and Switch are fine.
Those must be really shitty and badly designed consoles you are speaking of. Almost sounds like PCs.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>switch will require a 60+gb download to play all the content of this master collection
lolz
11 months ago
Anonymous
Still no installation though.
Cope
11 months ago
Anonymous
after downloading it has to be installed to your sandisk (lol)
11 months ago
Anonymous
no, Switch doesn't install anything, you moronic frickup.
This release is shit, but compared to the garbage on Steam it's mild garbage.
It's not about the audio, dumbass.
Since you don't seem to remember 7th gen, 360 didn't have HDD as part of default configuration, each game had to run without the installation on HDD from discs alone. Only by the end of generation they lifted the restriction, I think for GTAV and Titanfall.
Battlefield 3 had HD textures on the second disc, which was a separate optional install. The game was playable without HDD.
Castlevania Lords of Shadows 2nd disc could be either installed to play the game with just one disc, or used to play the remaining part of the game.
MGS4 had a lot of content accessible at any time, including 70 weapons. It having to run without installation on 360 would mean that on every single disc, there would need to be a copy of every single asset that is accessible at any time. Every model, texture, audio file. Don't forget OctoCamo gimmick, which automatically adjusted the camo texture to the environmental texture.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>MGS4 had a lot of content
Nope. >70 weapons
Who gives a frick >70 weapons take 25 GB
hahaha >70 weapons required CHAPTER installations
Rethink that argument
It has 10% of the codec conversations compared to MGS3.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>>70 weapons take 25 GB >>70 weapons required CHAPTER installations
Are you going to keep making shit up which I didn't say?
Even if shared assets are just 3GB, it leaves just 6GB on disc for everything else.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Your argument went >muh think about blu-ray
and I called you out on it
And then you went on with >so much content
and there isn't content at all >70 weapons
and that makes no sense
and that was it.
MGS4 is laughable, the content is as much as GTA 4 has content, which is nothing at all.
MGS3 actually had content, but that was on PS2.
11 months ago
Anonymous
70 highly detailed weapon, each with unique models and attachments. You don't consider it content, but it is content. GTA4 has just 16 weapons, which are pretty poorly modeled in comparison to MGS4. They don't even to be bearable in FPP mode.
Not to mention all the iPod music files.
I already mentioned all the OctoCamo textures that need to be stored on each disc. There are also assets related to costumes and face camos of other characters. It all adds up and they would have to be stored on every single disc. >Your argument went >>muh think about blu-ray >and I called you out on it
Even Sony's Jack Tretton literally said >Metal Gear Solid (4) is not only exclusive on PS3; it’s only possible on PS3 thanks in part to Blu-ray.
Even he clarified that it's not because of Cell, it's specifically because of Blu-ray.
11 months ago
Anonymous
the only reason MGS4 is large is because of the insane amounts of uncompressed audio, that's it. Nothing else about that game can't be done on 360.
The game can be done on 360, they'd just have to compress the audio. It's laughable you think a game like GTAV can work on 360 with no issues, but MGS4 can't.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you know, microsoft even had their own compression codec for audio that was done in hardware. the fox engine, even in mgs4, probably ran on pcs for the level editor that they must have had. i think its licensing issues that stop it from being rereleased also the game is cringe
11 months ago
Anonymous
They LITERALLY PORTED IT 360 DEVKIT ALREADY.
If it was so simple, why wouldn't they port it to a retail 360, when Microsoft pretty much begged them to release it on 360?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>They LITERALLY PORTED IT 360 DEVKIT ALREADY.
no they didnt stop spreading lies
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'd rather believe a person that actually worked on the game, than some clearly tech illiterate anonymous person.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>music files!!!
get the frick out of here >it needs CHAPTER installations because of MUSIC FILES
11 months ago
Anonymous
>mention audio files as a side note >MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC
Someone explain me what the frick is wrong with Metal Gear "fanbase"?
11 months ago
Anonymous
What if MGS4 didn't need chapter installations but they were put there because Kojima-san actually cared about our well being?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Absolutely delusional post
11 months ago
Anonymous
the PS3 is just that much of a piece of shit
11 months ago
Anonymous
>mention audio files as a side note >MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC
Someone explain me what the frick is wrong with Metal Gear "fanbase"?
>it needs CHAPTER installations because of MUSIC FILES
not to mention music files were usually read from disc, even on PC in the 1990s. Even on Steam, Half-Life priorities playing music from disc, not HDD.
Do I have to remind you what was the entire point of CD? It's to store about 80 minute of uncompressed dual channel music
So uhhhh... as a guy who already beat every single MG and MGS game multiple times.
Should I consume and get this master collection as well?
Seems like a waste of money, but then again it is MGS in 4k 60fps
>but then again it is MGS in 4k 60fps
no.
the collection is basically the same collection they released years ago. meaning, its gonna run the same as the original PSX version.
They literally don't have to do anything for it to be good, but they can do easy stuff like increase internal resolution, maybe AI upscale textures, fix minor bugs present, etc. Bluepoint already did all the heavy lifting
11 months ago
Anonymous
>maybe AI upscale textures,
I have to ask: why do you guys want this? It rarely looks very good.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't, but it's more believable than them manually doing it for every single texture asset, again
This, there's no way they would include them since they still sell Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain on the same storefronts that they'll be selling this compilation on. There's also the question of how well those games would actually run on the Switch.
Neither MGS1 or 2 are on any of the platforms this compilation is going to be on, so I don't really know what you mean. The only modern storefront the first two games are on right now is GOG. You can buy MGS1 and the VR missions on PS3, I guess?
>There's also the question of how well those games would actually run on the Switch. >Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain
Those games came out for the PS3 and Xbox 360, the Switch is going to run the game well.
It depends mostly the quality of the port than the hardware itself.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Right. I own a couple of games that were originally on those consoles, Bayonetta and Dark Souls, which do perform pretty well on the Switch, but they’re definitely older and lower fidelity than MGSV. Those also probably aren’t the fairest comparisons I could make considering the former is a Wii U port and the latter is a remake, admittedly. But still, seeing Capcom dump some PS4-era games as “cloud” titles on the Switch hasn’t left me very hopeful of MGSV getting an actual port there.
11 months ago
Anonymous
At least those were PS4 and PS5 games with capcom meanwhile Square Enix did a cloud version for the HD collections of Kingdom Hearts, like it was that hard to do a native port.
>games like Acid and Rising aren't "Metal Gear Solid"
neither are the NES versions of metal gear but they are in the collection.
so your theory is wrong
There are some idiots who, for reasons I cannot understand, absolutely refuse to use a controller, regardless of what game it is and how much better a controller might work for it.
That said, I'm a moron and refuse to use KB+M even in FPS games, so I'm one to talk.
I'm still booty blasted that the MGS theme wasn't in MGS4. I didn't mind it in V because it honestly wouldn't have really fit anywhere but its absence was fricking palpable in MGS4.
Yeah dog. You can skip Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 if you aren’t into them, but you absolutely must play MGS1, 2 and 3 in order.
This is very important. Play in release order, not chronological. MGS3, despite being a prequel, references the first two games constantly. You'll miss out on a ton of shit if you play chronologically.
the stupidity of playing MGS with KBM to begin with aside
is it really that hard to just have the mouse emulate right stick input or something so it's technically playable
the stupidity of playing MGS with KBM to begin with aside
is it really that hard to just have the mouse emulate right stick input or something so it's technically playable
yeah I have like 6 ports dickhead
>SNAKE PLUG THE LOGITECH CONTROLLER INTO THE OTHER USB PORT >COLONEL THE SUBMARINE IS DEPRESSURISING >SNAKE? SNAKE? SNAAAAAAAAKE
i played the GOG mgs 1 port recently, the psycho mantis fight was a fricking pain in the ass. Instead of switching controller ports your option is to switch from gamepad to KB and M controls. and for some reason it would not work well so I HAD to start the fight with gamepad and then switch to KB&M to reliably hit him. and the fricking keyboard controls were absolute shit. Clunky and annoying it was.
>and the fricking keyboard controls were absolute shit. Clunky and annoying it was.
you only really need to use the fire button on the keyboard, the rest can be done with controler still
mgs 1 integral (the pc port) is literally unbeatable without kbm since he evades everything while using a controller (replacing the controller port 2)
i expect that theyre getting rid of it entirely in this new collection, making psycho mantis the easiest boss in the game
the real question is whether or not we will be able to download mgs3 skins from their server like the old days. if no server to download cool skins from I don't give a shit.
This has everything in it the Legacy Collection did except MGS4.
We have no idea what Volume 2 will consist of. Best case scenario is MGS4 plus all of the PSP games. So-so case is PO/PW, MGSV and MGR:R. Worst case is just MGSV and MGR:R.
Though, if it was a proper modern port of MGR:R, I'd be pretty pleased with that if they actually brought it to PC and didn't just bundle the existing Steam release. The framerate and resolution issues are a pain.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why are they releasing this in volumes? Just release the Legacy Collection
Vol 2 probably >pw >gz/tpp
Maybe PO who knows
But sadly never ever mgs4
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Though, if it was a proper modern port of MGR:R
What makes you think they will improve anything? They still require a controller which is only flagged on Steam as a warning if the ENTIRE game has no mouse input, ie including even main menu navigation.
This shit is going to be the laziest ports ever made.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>MGR:R
Remember this
11 months ago
Anonymous
I really really really wish this is the version we got. Looks so smooth and weighty
11 months ago
Anonymous
Im certain there was a video where you could see people cut in small pieces too
11 months ago
Anonymous
>ENTIRE game has no mouse input
So the normal PC version of MGS1
11 months ago
Anonymous
Which is a dogshit port from the 90s, yes. Thank you for adding nothing
11 months ago
Anonymous
It using a controller is already more effort than that one
11 months ago
Anonymous
>So the normal PC version of MGS1
the one thats literally unplayable? damn
11 months ago
Anonymous
MGR port is fine, just plug a controller homosexual
It using a controller is already more effort than that one
Holy shit you DUMB FRICKS take a goddamn English class. It's, not about using the fricking mouse for the game, it's about the BOG STANDARD CONCEPT ON A MENU USING A MOUSE WHICH NOT HAVING IS IN INDICATION OF THE LAZIEST FRICKING ZERO EFFORT PORT POSSIBLE
11 months ago
Anonymous
>NOOOOOOOOO WHY CAN I NOT USE A MOUSE IN A GAME CLEARLY MADE FOR THE PLAYSTATION ONE IN 2004 >NOOOO I NEED MY MOUSE MENU NOOOOOOO
get the frick outta here
11 months ago
Anonymous
Calm down. You become an ESL when mad.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Use a controller
11 months ago
Anonymous
MGR port is fine, just plug a controller homosexual
11 months ago
Anonymous
Learn to read you fricking moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
>American literacy rates
That Black person was implying the MGR:R PC port needed improving. It literally doesn't.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>American literacy rates
11 months ago
Anonymous
MGR has issues with framerate when connected to a TV via HDMI, where it gets locked to 24Hz unless you make some registry changes (there's an app you can get for it but it shouldn't be needed.) It also requires an external app for 4k.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>TV >HDMI
Found the problem(s)
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's barely patch worthy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
But it is a problem with the port that would ideally be solved in a re-release. That's all I'm getting at. Native 4k/60fps would be great.
[...]
That Black person was implying the MGR:R PC port needed improving. It literally doesn't.
It is a problem with the port. It has technical issues that they should remedy if they revisit the game.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I honest to god do not remember having to mess around in the registry for this game, but it does indeed not support resolutions above 1080p.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's only an issue when connecting via HDMI to televisions. I can't remember the exact cause but it's something about like a media mode in Windows, I forget. There's a pinned thread about it in the Steam forums, including the fix.
>what makes you thik that theyre tweaking actual models of a ps3 game
So they can make money?
I swear, for every single thing publishers do you people complain about them trying to make money, but making money in itself is not enough of a motivation for company to do something.
I did enough of "game dev" to know it's not an issue. An intern can replace it.
Especially since Fox Engine was based on MGS4, and all the people are jerking off about how fantastic that engine was without actually interacting with editor.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Fox Engine was based on MGS4
Hell no fox engine was way too fluid running
11 months ago
Anonymous
Did you actually run MGSV on PS3? Graphically it's less detailed than 4, and cutscenes actually run at 20fps or worse. In MGS4 at least cutscenes were consistent.
Also fun fact, even MGS3D for 3DS most likely uses the fork of MGS4 engine, as some of the level data is actually similar to MGS4 and somewhat compatible with MGSV.
A lot of that could just be remedied by changing textures and removing licensed music. The only real concern is stuff related to dialog (i.e. I think there's a Calorie Mate conversation,) which could be removed.
I think the PS references could remain if Sony was chill about it, which seems to be their MO now.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They would have to change the texture of basically every firearm in the game to frankenguns since they're all based on real counterparts.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Can literally just change a letter in the name but also the Supreme Goy Court had some ruling where gun manufacturers were told to frick off or something
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think they're doing that with the Master Collection guns, why would they for MGS4?
I believe you clicked in the stick to raise or lower your weapon. I do hope a better solution is offered but it'll probably be the same as the 360 version.
Bluepoint already handled this by altering the control scheme in the 360 release. I dunno what buttons are used since I only ever played the PS3 version.
I don't think it was a formal copyright dispute. I think Kojima avoided using it in subsequent games as a precaution against one. The original HD rereleases kept it, so I don't know why this one wouldn't.
Did you read what I wrote? 2P controller if you have it, keyboard if you don't. You can use more than one wireless controller with one dongle, or have two wired controllers.
Actually how will they handle the scene where Colonel jokingly tells you to try switching ports when fighting Mantis in 4 until he realizes DS3 doesn't need that feature anymore
Or all the times they refer to the PS3 and the blu ray stuff lmao
in mg1 integral on pc you had to fight psycho mantis with kb if you had a gamepad and if you died and called the colonel he would tell you 'another trick'
>mgs 3 pressure sensitive buttons >loads of dialogue and music >textures and models >minigames like guy savage and ape escape >implicated sex scenes >soul
>helped philanthropy
we ever get to know more than that?
like what did she actually do
I'd kill for a game set between MGS1 and 2 showing Snake and Otacon doing Philanthopy shit. And a game set between 2 and 4 showing Snake helping Raiden rescue Sunny and realizing he's being affected by advanced aging.
I just miss Solid bros. I hate that Kojima didn't like writing for him.
I know that and I hate it. He also clearly wanted there to be no stories set in the Metal Gear universe after MGS4, hence changing the world so drastically and killing off Snake the way that he did.
While I love a lot of what he's made, his disdain for Snake and his burning the world behind him as he left always left a bad taste in my mouth.
He fricked things up so badly he couldn't even figure out how to make a game set in the universe he created and had to outsource it to Platinum for MGR. Thankfully they managed to carve something really unique out of it.
>no twin snakes
It's shit.
Yes, that's why it's excluded
Sony cuck still upset the better mgs game got ported to GC
Okay grandpa, now take your pills. Don't be angry, Capcom releasing RE4 on every other platform besides GameCube really took it's toll on you.
All the sony zoomers exposing themselves as both young and loyal to a dead brand.
Complete opposite actually, I've borderline hated MGS for a long time now but I still have fond memories of the old games.
Fricking moron
I'm a PChad
Stay mad toddler
I grew with Nintendo and didn't have a Sony platform until PS3. Try again zoom zoom.
Anyone can play it on Dolphin whenever they want, but I never do because it's the shit version of MGS1.
>shit version of MGS1
Kek
Nintentoddlers still upset the Shitcoob sold like shit
gaycube, surely?
I had both and have beaten each one numerous times
original is better
TS was good but it didn't do enough to reimagine the level design and boss fights. also it has a terrible color palette and inferior performances with its voice acting for some reason despite having most of the cast returning.
>inferior performances with its voice acting for some reason despite having most of the cast returning.
Easily the most egregious problem about Twin Snakes to me. I would like the game a lot more if they had just reused the old dub or just didn't sound like they were all phoning it the frick in.
Oh no no no no no no
Just accept that Twin Snakes is a non-canon fanfiction version of MGS1 it's never included in any compilations
Twin Snakes sucked.
It improved the original by a mile.
Everyone loves it, that's why it's expensive as frick.
i bought it when it came out and i fricking hated it. only bought it to add to the collection
I doubt it.
please tell me what other games are undeniably beloved because of their prices in the pants on head moronic retro game market of the 2020s.
Rule of Rose
Trip World
I accept your consession.
It's simple: more demand than ones that want to sell - price goes high.
And thus when the game is shit, that will not happen, unless it's some 1000 copies printed game, which Twin Snakes wasn't.
>Twin Snakes
>Everyone loves it
This is the most delusional post in this thread lmao
Found the hating Snoy-NPC
You just jelly because you can't play it.
Weak bait, you homosexual troll. Nobody likes the Twin Snakes, it's inferior in almost every regard
Only son!ggers hate it
They jelly and scream for remakes themselves
I'm the number one Nintendo GameCube mark on planet Earth and think Twin Snakes sucks
no, you lie.
You are a Sony lover, and you are gay.
And Ellie is your favorite character, because she's gay.
I am also *one of* the biggest PS1 and PS2 marks on Earth, but I honest to god haven't played The Last of Us games. One of my old friends said that The Last of Us 2 was one of the best games ever made, and I just don't know if I believe him. I liked the Crash and Jak games but kinda fell off around the end of the first Uncharted game. Thanks for subscribing.
Nobody can play it the game is rotting on a dead system while the PS1 version is getting its latest port.
>Game is expensive
>THAT MEANS IT'S GUD, GUIZE
It was a back to back remake that didn't improve on shit, Sure it added the tranq gun along with the first person view of MGS2 & MGS3 but that totally broke the whole fricking game thus removing any kind of challenge because the level design and boss fights were not changed to compensate for these "new" modifications.
Granted they only had a year to work on it and wanted to add something new but with a fixed deadline by a shitty company that was trying it's hardest to boost Gamecube sales there was only so much they could do. So they decided to just carbon copy ps1 version into the 6th generation.
There is a reason why the remake of Resident Evil 1 is actually loved more than Twin Shites, and it sold a hell of lot better too. Only thing you could praise about the game was the cutscenes but then again some of them were actually moronic. Snake literally dodging bullets like fricking Neo.
>challenge
what challenge
You mean the challenge to control a badly designed game with a dpad?
Reminder that Kojima purposely sabotaged the Twin Snakes remake by telling them that they couldn't have the cutscenes being 1:1, and for them to exagerate them more.
Kojima has previously said he doesn't believe in remakes, he doesn't want anyone changing his original vision in any way, which is why people who like Twin Snakes unironically, and people who complain about MGS Delta not having Kojima involved are equally moronic.
How's that "sabotaging"? Just shows that the director (who's his friend btw) is an incompetent
>the director
Yeah, the Kojima.
The director had done a 1:1 recreation of the original cutscenes,it looked great, and Kojima told him to add all the Matrix shit since it didn't want it to be a replacement for his original game, rather he wanted it to be an additive.
He purposely sabotaged the project to protect his ego, Kojima has already said multiple times he doesn't believe in remakes, it's pretty self explanatory,it wasn't the Director's fault, Kojima's opinion was above his and he had to comply.
Which is why people who want MGS Delta to have any Kojima involvment are moronic, he would purposely ruin the project and destroy the team's reputation because he's a narcissist and egomaniac
kojima god
was there every any doubt? they said 'modern platforms' from the off
it doesn't look bad, have they fixed the problems of the ps3 and psvita hd versions?
>it doesn't look bad, have they fixed the problems of the ps3 and psvita hd versions?
They haven't even increased the resolution. It's still running at 720p
>THATS THE SWITCH VERSION
No, that trailer is not using switch footage.
it makes sense for it to run at 720p as it was originally, so it can run well on switch
obviously on next-gen consoles and pc it will run at higher resolution or 4k
I was also talking about the post effects anyway, which I remember were very broken on hd versions compared to the PS2 version
there was a DF review talking about that but I can't find it
It's not a switch trailer, anon. The direct used different footage
I thought it was something general, like Metaphor: ReFantazio with the Xbox buttons, being that the game trailer is from multiplatform releases
B being used for 決定 (confirm) is how you know it's Switch in Japan. Xbox uses A
>Xbox uses A from "confirm"
in japan? don't they respect the "confirm and cancel" buttons, and the only one that doesn't is playstation?
also, this game is not confirmed for switch, and only used it as an example as a trailer made on another platform, but is used for the launch of the other ones, and pc
remember also that developers always work their games on the weakest platform first, it's easier to develop that way
>METAL GEAR SOLID: MASTER COLLECTION Vol. 1 launches October 24, 2023 for Nintendo Switch™, PlayStation®5, Xbox Series X|S, and Steam®.
>Steam
>Pre-order now!
I can find it on SteamDB, but the actual Steam store page for this seems to be missing. I guess their definition of the word 'now' is a bit different?
They put them up and took it down an hour ago
and i will not be buying or playing it 🙂
Hopefully MGS2 has a better port than the old one.
Nice.
I Will buy it
I Will play it
and I Will be happy
GO HOME HAPPY GAMER
Does it have the skate mode if not t's shit.
>Releasing on systems that are getting the Snake Snaker remake
That's pretty nice of them actually, if the remaster turns out shit you can actually play the original instead of it, better than what Rockstar did with the older GTA games.
>giving jeet mobile devs any amount of responsibility
>what could possibly go wrong
Wonder if the NES games are also included elsewhere or if that's a Nintendo exclusive. If it is, that's the best kind of exclusive: one that's a neat addition but also no big loss to not have.
at last, nintendo fans will finally be able to play the first mgs without any twin snakes abominations involved
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2131630/METAL_GEAR_SOLID__Master_Collection_Version/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2131640/METAL_GEAR_SOLID_2_Sons_of_Liberty__Master_Collection_Version/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2131650/METAL_GEAR_SOLID_3_Snake_Eater__Master_Collection_Version/
ITS UP (for some reason they're all separate)
>Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported.
>Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported.
>Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported.
>Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported.
>Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported.
>Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported.
huh? I wouldnt want to do it anyway but still. HUH?
>no keyboard + mouse
whatttt
>no keyboard and mouse support in 2023
>games are still running at 720p
Yeah it's another kino port, guys.
Didn't Konami do this shit with the Contra game too
What's going on
ran out of money and ideas
I played the original MGS with a keyboard and thank frick I won't have to do it again
When you get to the psycho mantis boss fight, how did you beat him? I tried pu
Lugging the keyboard and mouse into different USB ports but I still couldn't beat him.
use the kbm fire button
That was like 10 years ago so I don't remember if it even did the control frickery it was supposed to. Doubt it
I didn't use the mouse though, only the keyboard for everything including aim.
with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported.
which means the psycho mantis fight got even worse than the original pc port somehow
50$ each
100% these are going to be emulated. No reason why they wouldn't have KBM
Yupp. Literally emulating a 7th gen game without increasing the internal resolution.
People are getting hyped for what is going to be one of the most dogshit ports in recent memory. I'm glad I'm at least seeing through it early.
Source is your ass right?
dude not even the steam screenshots are in 1080p
you homies really think konami's putting any work into this at all? let alone adding kbm support? they're just ports
Why the frick would you play these games with a keyboard
I wouldn't, the fact that there's no support for it is insane though.
Not really, MGS1 on keyboard was horrendous. It's like playing Yakuza on keyboard
name the last PC port that didn't come with mouse and keyboard support that wasn't a dogshit port.
Ur mum
The last two collections that had that disclaimer on steam were No More Heroes and Ninja Gaiden. What did they have in common, besides not being able to be played with kbm? The games were all utter garbage ports
Why on earth would you want to play a game designed for a controller with kb+m?
Wait if there's no KB+M control then MGS1 and 2 won't be the PC ports? FRICK YES KONAMI IS BASED
Konami wouldn't israelite us again, right?
Bros what if they took down the pages because they'll change and add kbm support
This is cope and you know it. Pages were only up for about 30 minutes and only a few people noticed it. Don't do this to yourself.
pages down?
the only justification to play MGS with a keyboard is during the psycho mantis fight where you have to switch to it since you don't have a second controller
> getting excited about paying for games that you can already play for free
ngmi
Steam page screenshots are 1080p upscaled from 720p as well
i dont understand this resolution mumbo jumbo that you dykes keep blabbing about, can some one explain it like i am an idiot?
the screenshot is clearly not 1080p native, you can easily see as much because its blurry, its been upscaled as opposed to having increased its resolution.
how can you tell, by the pixels?
resolution literally refers to pixel count, so yes
Here's an example. One of these is native 1846x1383, the other is upscaled from 720p to that resolution.
You can probably tell which one is native and which one has been upscaled.
1/2
2/2
both look good to my eye
I'm so glad I'm not a gwafixgay (or any kind of gay), I'm gonna stuff this slop right down my throat and I'm going to enjoy it
nah bro, these twenty plus year old PS1 and PS2 games are RUINED by these suboptimal internal resolutions
I can't find a single difference without zooming in x15 (which I haven't done)
that really sucks about your bad eyesight, but luckily there are prescription glasses out there for you.
all the best
just look at the bottles in the back, the lights on the ceiling, the stairs
im nta and not bothered by the lower resolution at all but your iq must be low if you need this level of spoonfeeding to see a difference
I see the difference, but it's a minor inconvenience for autists who cry and shit themselves in their chairs... in general. Nothing even triggers it, they just do it.
They're reusing the footage (screenshots and videos) from original HD Collection and doomposters think they won't bother increasing the resolution
Is there a Steam page up?
>SWITCH
MGS fans will finally be able to mod all the missing content into the steam release, BASED
>25 year old games not upscaled to native 4k for my 25inch pc monitor
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME KOJIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Steam release confirmed
>Vol.1
will they release mgs4???
yeah it's on youtube
XD
^^xD
I'm unreasonably excited at the prospect of being able to play these games on my Switch.
why?
Those are three of my favorite video games, and I like my Switch. Did you know that one of the signs of autism is an inability to understand differences in opinion?
>Did you know that one of the signs of autism is an inability to understand differences in opinion?
wow really got me, where'd ya read that one, Sunday morning newspaper comics?
Yeah, Beetle Bailey broke the fourth wall and said that right into the camera in the last panel seemingly apropos of nothing. Really threw me for a loop.
an actual, not byte-sized and mission based MGS in your pocket was mindblowing, but that was like a decade ago though. I imagine the novelty has worn off with the Switch and Steam Deck.
Certainly not as mindblowing as the Vita releases were at the time, no, but I just think these games are a good fit for that console. I appreciate that they included the motion comics in this compilation, too.
Konami opting to port the original kino MGS1 instead of Twin Snakes to PC gives me a lot more hope for MGS3 remake. I just hope it's the PS1 version not the Integral one, same goes for the MGS2 port
Integral was on PS1 as well, but it only came out in Japan as far as I know.
Right? it's about time those old ports got put out to pasture.
Might sound gay but the only reason I hate Integral is because they used the normal boss theme for Gray Fox getting pinned by Rex and second phase Rex instead of the Escape music like in the PS1 version
Nothing gay about having opinions. I have a JP copy of Integral that I picked up because I was interested in first-person mode and never actually played the VR missions when I was younger. It's my favorite version now.
$40 or whatever this is beats $100+ and the time involved getting a PS3. Fine with me. Hope they put some effort in.
>NO KEYBOARD SUPPORT
lmfao its going to be the bluepoint shit verbatim compiled for pc
they made an opengl port for the Nvidia shield and now they're literally rereleasing that but for x86. port shitkino incoming
>unintelligible schizo babble
Okay
Okay
it's hilarious that people aren't seeing it when its so blatantly going to be a dogshit port. Man is this going to turn into a massive shitstorm when it actually drops. People really are sticking their head in the sand right now
Nothing can be worse than the ports of 1 and 2 already on PC
>Nothing can be worse than the ports of 1 and 2 already on PC
Shouldn't have said that man, these words are going to age poorly.
I know, but you dont understand how fricking bad those ports are
Dude stop being such a jaded contrarian, the Bluepoint ports are fine for the most part and will prob run full 60 fps
i'm mad that it's not uncapped, and that the extra stuff from the mgs2 and 3 PS2 rereleases like online and that skateboard minigame aren't coming at all. that shit is stuck on the ps2 forever
Is it confirmed the bluepoint remasters?
Really funny that it doesn't have 4, it probably will be a 360 situation where it won't be included.
>Really funny that it doesn't have 4
Vol. 2, dumbass.
Could just be PW + PO. Porting MGS4 would be a licensing nightmare and I don't see Konami putting that effort, they didn't do it on the 360 what makes you think they'll do it now?
>they didn't do it on the 360 what makes you think they'll do it now?
Anon, do you live under the rock?
>During my first week as a Konami employee working on Metal Gear Solid 4, I’ll never forget seeing the profound disappointment on my colleagues’ faces when they began to dig deep into the first-run PlayStation 3 development kits.
>Like the public at large, the Kojima Productions team believed Sony’s hyperbole about its incredible next-gen hardware; however, when it came down to actually pushing pixels through the PS3, everyone was underwhelmed. The team was warned ahead of time that the hardware would be difficult to develop for, but they had no idea how bad it would end up being.
>Despite how downtrodden my colleagues were with developing on PS3, most of them were still hardcore Sony fans and were not in favor of spending resources on such a test. They believed MGS 4 would look and run terribly on Microsoft’s older and inferior hardware.
>One fateful day, the Konami R&D team hosted a meeting where we got to see the fruits of their labor—Metal Gear Solid 4 running beautifully and smoothly on an Xbox 360. As one of the few unabashed Xbox fans in the office, I was excited.
>The prevailing belief around the industry was that Sony must have secured an exclusive deal for the game. It wasn’t true. Had Kojima chosen to port the game to Xbox 360, his bosses would surely have approved the decision, but he wasn’t ready to make the jump.
https://mega.nz/file/scVgxLQJ#cIC_4qxr8yIgKs7mqLXwaAgs2LQrPNdRd0pNcqLNWnc
if it was that easy konami wouldve brought it to the 360 and doubled their income on this high budget game
dont believe what this american gaijin "assistant producer of the opening movie and podcast" xbox fan has to say
Maybe you'll listen to Kojima instead
https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/02/metal-gear-solid-4-too-enormous-for-xbox-360
inb4 hurr durr translated by shitaku so it doesn't cout
>literally says it would be impossible to bring out on 360
thanks for proving my point? lmao
Point out the exact sentence where he LITERALLY said it's impossible.
The title LITERALLY implies it would never work on the 360 you illiterate ape
You now realize there were games "back in the day" (over a decade before you were born zoomy) that had 3, 5, 7 or even more discs to play.
>hes over 25 and still plays kids videogames and browses Ganker all day long
LOL
I can't speak for that guy, but I really only browse Ganker when I'm at work and have nothing else to do.
>have nothing else to do
So you're here 24/7
No, I said I post here when I have nothing else to do at work. Your reading comprehension is bad, and you smell bad in real life.
If you mean that you would have written
>when I have nothing to do while at work
Instead you wrote
>I post here while 1) I am at work 2) I have nothing to do
Meaning either at work or while doing nothing
Are you developmentally disabled?
>and means or
t. ESLkun
ya it's sad but surely better than leddit or tweeter
>The title
Made up by the author, not said by Kojima.
Not him but did you think I cared about the 360 or something Black person? It was just an example that if Konami would have wanted the game in other platforms they would have more than done it at this point.
>Not him
>but did you think I cared about the 360 or something Black person?
how the hell am i supposed to know if you cared about something if you didnt even write the post i replied to
I'm the anon he was replying to
so why the frick u replying to me
>they didn't put the game on 16 DVDs so they won't put it out as a download
>Twin Snakes left out
That's fine
>Ghost Babel left out
Shit sucks, but that was to be expected
>MG1 NES and Snake's Revenge are in
What the frick?
I bet Ghost Babel is gonna be in volume 2, but I agree that it would have made a little more sense to stick it in the compilation that has MGS2.
Volume 2 will likely have Ghost Babel and all of the PSP games. I'd love for MGS4 to get ported to something else but am skeptical that it ever will considering how much PlayStation stuff is in that game.
2 years later the NMH1+2 ports still suck dick and they actually broke NMH3 even WORSE with the newest patch
amazing job, XSNEED
>Steam version of NMH3 is the last-gen one
>Microsoft store version of NMH3 is the next-gen one
what the frick were they thinking
Switch version confirmed cucked
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1671555310174228480
Only 2 GB cartridge and rest is download.
Zero effort ports confirmed
Explains why they were able to shove so much shit into one budget collection
No effort would mean a very quick release yet they're taking months. If we're lucky they might AI upscale textures and have 4k support
>Zero effort ports confirmed
And people still believe in mgs4
So what evidence do we have that it's locked to 720p? The Steam screenshots? Couldn't Konami have just uploaded them at 720?
There's also the trailer they dropped today
Top is the trailer
Bottom is the ps3 version upscaled to 1080p. It's obviously not native 1080p
>Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported.
You guys realize this is basically like releasing a game on PS5 and saying the PS5 controller isn't supported
These are definitely gonna be the lowest effort ports imaginable maybe even worse than the Ninja Gaiden ports
It's obvious Konami really doesn't care about MGS at all they are just jumping on the port/remake bandwagon because they saw Nintendo and Capcom were successful with it
I don't think it's that unreasonable to demand controller support from customers on a platform where they can already play these games on a keyboard for free.
>they are just jumping on the port/remake bandwagon because they saw Nintendo and Capcom were successful with it
nigaa theyve been releasing a collection every generation this aint new to the series
>nigaa theyve been releasing a collection every generation this aint new to the series
They literally skipped 8th gen
This. People are in for a rude awakening if they're dumb enough to pre-order this shit
Except this is fricking dumb. The game is designed around the controller only. It's like demanding dark souls add a story mode difficulty (though I'm sure a moron like you would like that).
Stick your head in the sand and refuse to see the numerous red flags about this port, do it. You're only setting yourself up for disappointment here.
It's a direct port of the HD collection. That's all I want. Lack of kb/m is not a red flag for me and for most people.
Read my post again fricktard. I used the example of an easy difficulty for dark souls, not keyboard controls. Really proving how moronic you gays are.
thats racist anon. you cant hold me to a double standard anon. thats ableist anon.
>It's a direct port of the HD collection
it isn't, it's likely emulating the HD collection, because as we've seen the internal resolution of the game has not been increased, it is literally stuck on 720p
Imagine releasing a game in 2023 that has a forced 720p res that you cannot go over. Give me one good reason this isn't running native 4k on all systems (except switch) please.
>Give me one good reason this isn't running native 4k on all systems (except switch) please.
because it would require effort, time and money?
>making a PS3 or 360 emulator, at the top of PSX emulator on 4 completely different platforms
Frick off, moron
you are going to be so disappointed when you find out I'm 100% correct, lol.
Yeah, I'm sure Konami is casually releasing a perfect low performance 360 emulator for PS5, PC and even Switch.
EXPLAIN WHY THE FOOTAGE IS 720P THEN YOU FRICKING moron
WHY DID THEY RELEASE A TRAILER RUNNING AT 720P UPSCALED TO 1080P??? WHY??? WHY WOULD THEY POSSIBLY FRICKING DO THIS UNLESS THE GAME IS LITERALLY THE EMULATED 360 GAME
Please. Please explain logically why ALL footage they've shown of this is not even 1080p native. If you have a good answer for this I'll entertain the idea that this isn't going to be a dogshit re-release.
They're reusing the footage recorded for HD Collection
dear god the absolute denial. Just accept it now and avoid disappointment later.
Pretending to act moronic should be a bannable offense
Feel free to elaborate on how much easier it is to make functional emulators for 4 separate platform, than replacing specific API calls and compiling the build for new platforms.
Increasing the internal resolution is probably trivial task, I'll be surprised if it'll be forced 720p. There's no reason PC or new consoles can't be played at 4k, RPCS3 proves it's doable
>Increasing the internal resolution is probably trivial task
Obviously it is, but we're talking about Konami here and so far there's no reason to believe this is going to be a good port
>EXPLAIN WHY THE FOOTAGE IS 720P THEN YOU FRICKING moron
Because it's easily available and not the final product? Stop being such a fricking schizo lmao
>Schizoposter has a meltdown and can't have a civil argument
Fricking everytime. You need to leave.
Shut the frick up, you are adding nothing to this thread.
If you're right then we'll have a 360 emulator to shim some games into
Schizoposting.jpg
dark souls has keyboard controls
it was unplayable with kbm without installing dsfix
That doesn't change the fact that playing Dark Souls with KB+M is a dogshit experience
No its not i completed every ds game with kb+m and had the best experience, kb+m is best, only games that works well with shitcontroller are racing games
Cope: the post
ok but that isn't usually the case for non-moronic people
>game has telltale signs of being a garbage port
>"nah bro, it's going to be different this time. Based konami. I'm not moronic, you are"
consume some more, homosexual
Literally the only telltale sign you've given is that it doesn't have a control scheme that the game wasn't designed for and would break the game. Go buy the remake if you want a shooter you fricking zoomer
>Literally the only telltale sign you've given is that it doesn't have a control scheme that the game wasn't designed for and would break the game
Damn, if only we had recent examples of shit ports that prove that not having something as simple as kbm supports is a sign that the developers really didn't a shit, right?
Are you legitimately mentally deficient? The game is not designed for keyboard and mouse. It is not a game to be played on keyboard and mouse. They have made the remake for you homosexuals that need a generic Horizon: God of the Last of Us style control scheme.
Doesn't matter, it's the bare minimum, If they can't even do that, there's also a great chance that the game won't even have basic PC settings e.g. Ninja Gaiden
I can't imagine playing MGS 1/2/3 without a controller, MGS4 is the only good candidate since it has the over the shoulder aiming
True Yakuza play with a controller
STEAM PAGES GONE
we ddid it leddit
IT'S OVER
Hate to burst your bubble
This is OG MGS2. not substance.
This is OG MGS3. not subsistence.
Have fun with these terribly outdated versions
It literally says "HD collection version" under MGS2 and 3 moron
what is the difference?
Original MGS2 doesn't have Snake Tales and VR missions, maybe some other stuff, and original MGS3 has only a fixed camera option as the biggest thing. Both also missing extra difficulty setting
Substance and Subsistence were second versions of MGS2 and 3 that included some extra stuff. MGS2 Substance came with a skateboarding minigame, but I can't remember what else changed. MGS3 was drastically changed in Subsistence. Subsistence gives you the option of using a 3rd person camera instead of the traditional overhead camera. It also adds Snake vs. Monkey (Snake has to hunt some Escaped Apes) and curiously removes a dream sequence from the game.
>It also adds Snake vs. Monkey (Snake has to hunt some Escaped Apes) and curiously removes a dream sequence from the game.
JFC, how can you still be wrong?
Tbh it's just like the skateboarding in MGS2, literally nobody gives a frick about these things, people just wanna play the main game
>people always complain about how MGS2 is just a bunch of codec calls and cutscenes with no gameplay
>meanwhile the VR mode with 500 missions goes unplayed
Vr mode is included in the HD collection
I remember people wanting the VR missions a lot more than the other bullshit
I'm not really sure what you're talking about. I definitely played Subsistence earlier this year and played Snake vs. Monkey after I beat the main game. Guy Savage is also not in Subsistence if I'm not mistaken.
Snake vs. Monkey was already present in the original. Guy Savage was still in Subsistence.
Oh, my bad.
I'm probably thinking of the HD Collection with regards to Guy Savage, now that I think of it. I owned the "Essential Collection" of these games when I was younger, and since that only came with the first disc of Subsitence I got some wires crossed with Snake vs. Monkey.
guy savage wasnt in the hd collection
Yeah, that's what I meant when I said that.
Shut the frick up, you are adding nothing to this thread.
You could always report me for "extremely low quality".
Why the frick would you reply when you don't even know what you're talking about? Your incomplete knowledge is not valuable.
To bother you specifically.
genuine moron
This is partially incorrect. MGS 3 while not Subsistence, has the 3D camera of Subsistence. It just doesn't have the bonus features. And in regards to MGS 2, again you're just missing the bonus features. Oh well.
HD Collection of MGS2 is substance.
You're a genuine moron
You're an actual fricking moron, holy shit
The store pages say they're the HD versions, which basically are the Substance/Subsistence versions except no Skateboarding and no Snake vs Monkey.
lol moron, they dont even bother saying substance or subsistence anymore, where have you been. subsistence and substance are just considered the default now. Look at the HD collection, 2 and 3 did not have substance or subsistence on the cover but it was in fact, those versions of those games
Shit eating moron homosexual
Big Boss is Saladin
>Never got to see Big Boss become the evil fricker from MG1
>Literal false advertising with the "Missing Link" bullshit
MGSV's story was bad on its own, but the trailers literally had content not in the game and told players we'd get stuff that it didn't have.
>be microloser
>always haave to scrape the bottom of the barrel
>pray every day to bill gates for a pc port, even if its ported terribly
>have hope everyday that a 10 year old game gets ported
>try to act like theyre happy with the leftover scraps they get years after a game is originally released
sonyCHVDS stay winning
>gatekeeping video games is le heckin' based!
literally what microsoft tried to do by buying activision, and all microjews on this board were cheering for it
>Uncharted 4
>P5
might wanna update that image
>both came out 6 years later on pc
literally thankful for leftover scraps of obsolete tech
>i-it doesn't count
Is that why Horizon, God of War and Spider-Man aren't on the image?
>Is that why Horizon, God of War and Spider-Man aren't on the image?
i have no idea why theyre not on the image since i literally took it off google images
its not that deep autist
seems it is that deep if you're getting so defensive about it
>explaioning i found an image on google search means im being defensive
take meds schizo, youre being offensive
>m-meds!
like I said, defensive
three of those games are on PC, lmao
>>have hope everyday that a 10 year old game gets ported
literal puppy begging for maccy d leftovers
>>>have hope everyday that a 10 year old game gets ported
>literal puppy begging for maccy d leftovers
i literally wrote that on the original post with the image
Once again I'm reminded of mental moronation and tech illiteracy of Metal Gear fanbase.
>Steam release
>Without proper keyboard mouse support
Why every gaming company hates us PcChad so much bros
Hopefully the MGS3 version uses the Xbox control scheme, frick pressure sensitive buttons.
Hm, maybe I'll actually try them now.
How is Ganker just as autistic and easily upset as it was over ten years ago?
It really bothers me when PC players demand keyboard and mouse support because it means they're so stubborn that they'd rather just play games with worse controls. The mouse wouldn't even serve any purpose in MGS1 or 2.
Actual PC only gays are some of the worst kinds of autists out there. I love PC but even I know some games just cannot be enjoyed on KBM
Metal Gear Solid V plays well with K&M (as do MG and MG2), and I'm sure that MGS1 would as well, so it is definitely out of laziness.
>snoycucks
>on suicidewatch
it rhymes
>MGS makes a comeback
>schizoposts left and right out the ass, no reading comprehension, no logical train of thought, absolutely gormless
just like old times
im convinced only zoomers want this
everyone over 24 already has a superior version of every game in this collection available to play right now
no, im buying it to add to my metal gear collection.
over 30 by the way.
>"collecting" digital games
?
>I don't have the 5 cent plastic wrap through it doesn't count
the collection is getting a physical version too, idiot.
Never played them actually.
I'm 27 and am gonna buy this on the Switch. I already own physical copies of all of the PlayStation games in this compilation.
Do you people not have controllers?
Oh no no no
i literally just bought a ps3 to play all these games 2 days ago
FML
Lol, you actually buy games? Lol, you actually play games? Lol?
you gays will never have mgs 4 get over yourselves
We can only hope it stays quarantined on the PS3.
It's already over Sonygreo
This is Volume 1, so...
youre delusional if you think vol 2 isnt gonna be handheld titles and v
And probably 4.
Nope.
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/konami-had-metal-gear-solid-4-running-on-xbox-but-it-was-held-back-for-one-reason
>game gets developed exclusively for the ps3 since the start of development
>somehow they just manage to pop the bluray cd in a 360 and get it to run
very big
It was on devkit, schizo.
It being developed in mind with blu ray was superficially why they didn't port it to consumer console. In 2013 Kojima said there's nothing that would prevent MGS4 from appearing on the next Xbox (Xbone)
>just hook the ps3 devkit on to the 360 devkit with a usb cable and it works XD
lmao how delusional
>One fateful day, the Konami R&D team hosted a meeting where we got to see the fruits of their labor—Metal Gear Solid 4 running beautifully and smoothly on an Xbox 360. As one of the few unabashed Xbox fans in the office, I was excited.
Consider jumping off a bridge, snoy
>xbox fan making up stuff
color me shamboozled
Literally the words of MGS4's assistant producer, a person that actually worked on the fricking game, unlike some tech illiterate self proclaimed intellectual, just because he played Kojima's games.
>During my first week as a Konami employee working on Metal Gear Solid 4, I’ll never forget seeing the profound disappointment on my colleagues’ faces when they began to dig deep into the first-run PlayStation 3 development kits.
>Like the public at large, the Kojima Productions team believed Sony’s hyperbole about its incredible next-gen hardware; however, when it came down to actually pushing pixels through the PS3, everyone was underwhelmed. The team was warned ahead of time that the hardware would be difficult to develop for, but they had no idea how bad it would end up being.
>Despite how downtrodden my colleagues were with developing on PS3, most of them were still hardcore Sony fans and were not in favor of spending resources on such a test. They believed MGS 4 would look and run terribly on Microsoft’s older and inferior hardware.
>One fateful day, the Konami R&D team hosted a meeting where we got to see the fruits of their labor—Metal Gear Solid 4 running beautifully and smoothly on an Xbox 360. As one of the few unabashed Xbox fans in the office, I was excited.
>The prevailing belief around the industry was that Sony must have secured an exclusive deal for the game. It wasn’t true. Had Kojima chosen to port the game to Xbox 360, his bosses would surely have approved the decision, but he wasn’t ready to make the jump.
Source https://mega.nz/file/scVgxLQJ#cIC_4qxr8yIgKs7mqLXwaAgs2LQrPNdRd0pNcqLNWnc
>>The prevailing belief around the industry was that Sony must have secured an exclusive deal for the game.
is this why theres sony systems and controllers all over the game
>this "assistant producer" was a gaijin whiteboi who was hired to make podcasts
im sure he knows anything about the actual development LMAO
>is this why theres sony systems and controllers all over the game
Didn't know MGS4 was on Mac and classic non-touch iPod.
>>this "assistant producer" was a gaijin whiteboi who was hired to make podcasts
>im sure he knows anything about the actual development LMAO
Sure, a person that is actually credited for the game has no idea about the game itself. I wonder what's the point of crediting Kojima in the first place.
you believe voice actors know a thing about developing as well?
>whiteboi american who is a self-claimed xbox fan credited for the opening movie and the podcast
LOL VERY TRUSTWORTHY
MGS1 also referenced the PS1 and yet it's on the PC
with the ps1 references cut
Yeah but Sony aren't dickbags anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if they allowed the references to remain.
More work would probably need to go into reskinning all the licensed shit like Calorie Mates and iPods and getting rid of licensed music.
>developed in mind with blu ray
>THINK OF ALL THE UNCOMPRESSED AUDIO!!!
Yeah, I remember the MANDATORY INSTALLSTIONS because of the fricking slow as frick Blu-ray shit drive
>Yeah, I remember the MANDATORY INSTALLSTIONS because of the fricking slow as frick Blu-ray shit drive
now were in 2023 and we still need mandatory installations on last gen consoles
>last gen consoles
my Wii, Wii U and Switch are fine.
Those must be really shitty and badly designed consoles you are speaking of. Almost sounds like PCs.
>switch will require a 60+gb download to play all the content of this master collection
lolz
Still no installation though.
Cope
after downloading it has to be installed to your sandisk (lol)
no, Switch doesn't install anything, you moronic frickup.
This release is shit, but compared to the garbage on Steam it's mild garbage.
It's not about the audio, dumbass.
Since you don't seem to remember 7th gen, 360 didn't have HDD as part of default configuration, each game had to run without the installation on HDD from discs alone. Only by the end of generation they lifted the restriction, I think for GTAV and Titanfall.
Battlefield 3 had HD textures on the second disc, which was a separate optional install. The game was playable without HDD.
Castlevania Lords of Shadows 2nd disc could be either installed to play the game with just one disc, or used to play the remaining part of the game.
MGS4 had a lot of content accessible at any time, including 70 weapons. It having to run without installation on 360 would mean that on every single disc, there would need to be a copy of every single asset that is accessible at any time. Every model, texture, audio file. Don't forget OctoCamo gimmick, which automatically adjusted the camo texture to the environmental texture.
>MGS4 had a lot of content
Nope.
>70 weapons
Who gives a frick
>70 weapons take 25 GB
hahaha
>70 weapons required CHAPTER installations
Rethink that argument
It has 10% of the codec conversations compared to MGS3.
>>70 weapons take 25 GB
>>70 weapons required CHAPTER installations
Are you going to keep making shit up which I didn't say?
Even if shared assets are just 3GB, it leaves just 6GB on disc for everything else.
Your argument went
>muh think about blu-ray
and I called you out on it
And then you went on with
>so much content
and there isn't content at all
>70 weapons
and that makes no sense
and that was it.
MGS4 is laughable, the content is as much as GTA 4 has content, which is nothing at all.
MGS3 actually had content, but that was on PS2.
70 highly detailed weapon, each with unique models and attachments. You don't consider it content, but it is content. GTA4 has just 16 weapons, which are pretty poorly modeled in comparison to MGS4. They don't even to be bearable in FPP mode.
Not to mention all the iPod music files.
I already mentioned all the OctoCamo textures that need to be stored on each disc. There are also assets related to costumes and face camos of other characters. It all adds up and they would have to be stored on every single disc.
>Your argument went
>>muh think about blu-ray
>and I called you out on it
Even Sony's Jack Tretton literally said
>Metal Gear Solid (4) is not only exclusive on PS3; it’s only possible on PS3 thanks in part to Blu-ray.
Even he clarified that it's not because of Cell, it's specifically because of Blu-ray.
the only reason MGS4 is large is because of the insane amounts of uncompressed audio, that's it. Nothing else about that game can't be done on 360.
The game can be done on 360, they'd just have to compress the audio. It's laughable you think a game like GTAV can work on 360 with no issues, but MGS4 can't.
you know, microsoft even had their own compression codec for audio that was done in hardware. the fox engine, even in mgs4, probably ran on pcs for the level editor that they must have had. i think its licensing issues that stop it from being rereleased also the game is cringe
They LITERALLY PORTED IT 360 DEVKIT ALREADY.
If it was so simple, why wouldn't they port it to a retail 360, when Microsoft pretty much begged them to release it on 360?
>They LITERALLY PORTED IT 360 DEVKIT ALREADY.
no they didnt stop spreading lies
I'd rather believe a person that actually worked on the game, than some clearly tech illiterate anonymous person.
>music files!!!
get the frick out of here
>it needs CHAPTER installations because of MUSIC FILES
>mention audio files as a side note
>MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC
Someone explain me what the frick is wrong with Metal Gear "fanbase"?
What if MGS4 didn't need chapter installations but they were put there because Kojima-san actually cared about our well being?
Absolutely delusional post
the PS3 is just that much of a piece of shit
>it needs CHAPTER installations because of MUSIC FILES
not to mention music files were usually read from disc, even on PC in the 1990s. Even on Steam, Half-Life priorities playing music from disc, not HDD.
Do I have to remind you what was the entire point of CD? It's to store about 80 minute of uncompressed dual channel music
I just want it on the PS5 but if they have to alter/remove content that will be an L and the ps3 version will remain an important piece of history
So uhhhh... as a guy who already beat every single MG and MGS game multiple times.
Should I consume and get this master collection as well?
Seems like a waste of money, but then again it is MGS in 4k 60fps
If it seems like a waste of your money then you probably shouldn't buy it.
>but then again it is MGS in 4k 60fps
ive got bad new for you honey
and even if it was it stil wouldnt be worth the money
>but then again it is MGS in 4k 60fps
no.
the collection is basically the same collection they released years ago. meaning, its gonna run the same as the original PSX version.
You just know Konami included the NES games just to give Kojima the middle finger.
shut the frick up, Boco
>no Twin Snakes
zoomies blown the frick out
shut the frick up, Boco.
shut the frick up, Boco!
Volume 2 will include:
Portable Ops
Peace Walker HD
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
MGS4 won't be included and games like Acid and Rising aren't "Metal Gear Solid".
>Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes
>Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Why would they include these two when they're already on PC moron
They'll be removed from individual sale and bundled with this. Keeps everything simple.
mgs 1 and 2 are on pc too? moron
Yeah, they've been on PC for years and years. They've been on GOG for a few years now too. They're just not great ports.
>extremely fricked, buggy ports that barely work
>mGs 1 AnD 2 aRe oN pC tOo? moron
>implying this collection will have actual good ports
1 2 and 3 should all be fine. volume 2 is where the problems will arise.
They literally don't have to do anything for it to be good, but they can do easy stuff like increase internal resolution, maybe AI upscale textures, fix minor bugs present, etc. Bluepoint already did all the heavy lifting
>maybe AI upscale textures,
I have to ask: why do you guys want this? It rarely looks very good.
I don't, but it's more believable than them manually doing it for every single texture asset, again
i bought a physical copy of metal gear solid on PC years ago since i never owned a playstation and the game ran fine on my shitty ass computer.
This, there's no way they would include them since they still sell Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain on the same storefronts that they'll be selling this compilation on. There's also the question of how well those games would actually run on the Switch.
does this mean that they will remove the first 2 games from this collection since theyre already on the same storefront?
Neither MGS1 or 2 are on any of the platforms this compilation is going to be on, so I don't really know what you mean. The only modern storefront the first two games are on right now is GOG. You can buy MGS1 and the VR missions on PS3, I guess?
>There's also the question of how well those games would actually run on the Switch.
>Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain
Those games came out for the PS3 and Xbox 360, the Switch is going to run the game well.
True, I'm just skeptical since I haven't actually seen MGSV gameplay on either of those consoles before.
It depends mostly the quality of the port than the hardware itself.
Right. I own a couple of games that were originally on those consoles, Bayonetta and Dark Souls, which do perform pretty well on the Switch, but they’re definitely older and lower fidelity than MGSV. Those also probably aren’t the fairest comparisons I could make considering the former is a Wii U port and the latter is a remake, admittedly. But still, seeing Capcom dump some PS4-era games as “cloud” titles on the Switch hasn’t left me very hopeful of MGSV getting an actual port there.
At least those were PS4 and PS5 games with capcom meanwhile Square Enix did a cloud version for the HD collections of Kingdom Hearts, like it was that hard to do a native port.
What about the Game Boy Color game?
would you shut up, man
>Source: My ass
>games like Acid and Rising aren't "Metal Gear Solid"
neither are the NES versions of metal gear but they are in the collection.
so your theory is wrong
shut the frick up, Boco
it'll be an impostor MGSV but you won't find out until the final cutscene
own nothing
happy
>boxart doesn't say A Hideo Kojima Game
Soulless.
>Snake's Revenge
>A Hideo Kojima Game
???
Snake's revenge wasn't included in MGS3 just MG1 and 2, that's what this package is getting.
I'll get it just because the digital backwards compatible version of the HD collection doesn't let you buy it on the store
Notice that because it’s coming to switch the tendies aren’t bombarding the threads shitposting
>Three store pages on Steam
>No KB+M support
It's not even the first """"""""""""""""""""""Master"""""""""""""""""""""""""" Collection to do that
Would you really play Ninja Gaiden with a keyboard and mouse?
Oh good, I was wondering if it'd be multiple entries in our library. It'll make my Metal Gear folder finally make fricking sense.
Do we know how the Bonus Content is being handled? Is it its own "title" or DLC or something?
Why da frick would you use keyboard and mouse for these games?
PCiggers complain about everything
There are some idiots who, for reasons I cannot understand, absolutely refuse to use a controller, regardless of what game it is and how much better a controller might work for it.
That said, I'm a moron and refuse to use KB+M even in FPS games, so I'm one to talk.
the box art
Shame they never used this.
>Solidus just straight up forgotten
Rude.
Also, as ridiculous as this series is, pic related might be the silliest thing in the franchise.
mmm yes i cant wait to buy these ancient relics for 400% increased mark up value
Will they keep this masterpiece for MGS3 and the remake?
They kept it for all the other releases so it's probably still in this. The remake will use some Black person jungle mumble shit instead.
There's no licence issues with that song, so probably.
I'm still booty blasted that the MGS theme wasn't in MGS4. I didn't mind it in V because it honestly wouldn't have really fit anywhere but its absence was fricking palpable in MGS4.
Its hilarious how little effort they put into it, its not ready and filled with bugs and issues but they just don't give a frick.
So these titles are a good starting point for newbies like me to finally get into the series I assume?
Yeah dog. You can skip Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 if you aren’t into them, but you absolutely must play MGS1, 2 and 3 in order.
This is very important. Play in release order, not chronological. MGS3, despite being a prequel, references the first two games constantly. You'll miss out on a ton of shit if you play chronologically.
Are you guys being nit picky b***hes about the port?
>say I hope mgs4 is in vol 2
>Ganker says to just emulate it
You really don’t have a PS3, pussy? I’m pretty sure you can play every Metal Gear game on PS3.
17 year old console
>PS3 is close to retro tier
Holy frick I'm old
I only have a steam deck
I don't pay for snoy "products"
I also hope we get MGS4 anon. Nothing would make me happier than having MGS4, PO and PW added to my MGS collection on Steam.
the Ac!d games would be a nice bonus.
>SIXTY DOLLARS
give them all online multiplayer functionality
the stupidity of playing MGS with KBM to begin with aside
is it really that hard to just have the mouse emulate right stick input or something so it's technically playable
Do PC gays have controller port 2? Check fricking mate
you can defeat mantis without changing ports
as I said, technically playable
>SNAKE PLUG THE LOGITECH CONTROLLER INTO THE OTHER USB PORT
>COLONEL THE SUBMARINE IS DEPRESSURISING
>SNAKE? SNAKE? SNAAAAAAAAKE
yeah I have like 6 ports dickhead
>Snake plug the controller into "USB slot SS squiggly line 5"
>Snake plug the controller into Ethernet Port
i played the GOG mgs 1 port recently, the psycho mantis fight was a fricking pain in the ass. Instead of switching controller ports your option is to switch from gamepad to KB and M controls. and for some reason it would not work well so I HAD to start the fight with gamepad and then switch to KB&M to reliably hit him. and the fricking keyboard controls were absolute shit. Clunky and annoying it was.
>and the fricking keyboard controls were absolute shit. Clunky and annoying it was.
you only really need to use the fire button on the keyboard, the rest can be done with controler still
mgs 1 integral (the pc port) is literally unbeatable without kbm since he evades everything while using a controller (replacing the controller port 2)
i expect that theyre getting rid of it entirely in this new collection, making psycho mantis the easiest boss in the game
Pretty sure the Steam one is emulating the original PS1 game
since games have no way of identifying usb ports seperately you can be sure that theyre tweaking the psycho mantis fight somehow
the real question is whether or not we will be able to download mgs3 skins from their server like the old days. if no server to download cool skins from I don't give a shit.
was there a price for each game before the pages went down?
no
no
I'm guessing they will be $10 each
The collection is $60
They were posted individually on Steam, you telling me I gotta pay $20 to play a PS1 game on PC? Based
$10 dollars of 1980 currency
vol 1. itself is $60 going by the switch storepage but maybe we'll be able to buy games individually
MGS 4 isn’t likely. Too many licensing issues.
>oh the horrors of replacing few assets and disabling a trigger or two!
Konami literally pulled games from storefronts because of licensing instead of doing that anon
And they're already bringing it up, so they can sell 6/7 games in bundle for $60.
This collection is going to have all of the licensed shit they did that for you dork.
?t=81
Why are they releasing this in volumes? Just release the Legacy Collection
This has everything in it the Legacy Collection did except MGS4.
We have no idea what Volume 2 will consist of. Best case scenario is MGS4 plus all of the PSP games. So-so case is PO/PW, MGSV and MGR:R. Worst case is just MGSV and MGR:R.
Though, if it was a proper modern port of MGR:R, I'd be pretty pleased with that if they actually brought it to PC and didn't just bundle the existing Steam release. The framerate and resolution issues are a pain.
Vol 2 probably
>pw
>gz/tpp
Maybe PO who knows
But sadly never ever mgs4
>Though, if it was a proper modern port of MGR:R
What makes you think they will improve anything? They still require a controller which is only flagged on Steam as a warning if the ENTIRE game has no mouse input, ie including even main menu navigation.
This shit is going to be the laziest ports ever made.
>MGR:R
Remember this
I really really really wish this is the version we got. Looks so smooth and weighty
Im certain there was a video where you could see people cut in small pieces too
>ENTIRE game has no mouse input
So the normal PC version of MGS1
Which is a dogshit port from the 90s, yes. Thank you for adding nothing
It using a controller is already more effort than that one
>So the normal PC version of MGS1
the one thats literally unplayable? damn
Holy shit you DUMB FRICKS take a goddamn English class. It's, not about using the fricking mouse for the game, it's about the BOG STANDARD CONCEPT ON A MENU USING A MOUSE WHICH NOT HAVING IS IN INDICATION OF THE LAZIEST FRICKING ZERO EFFORT PORT POSSIBLE
>NOOOOOOOOO WHY CAN I NOT USE A MOUSE IN A GAME CLEARLY MADE FOR THE PLAYSTATION ONE IN 2004
>NOOOO I NEED MY MOUSE MENU NOOOOOOO
get the frick outta here
Calm down. You become an ESL when mad.
Use a controller
MGR port is fine, just plug a controller homosexual
Learn to read you fricking moron
That Black person was implying the MGR:R PC port needed improving. It literally doesn't.
>American literacy rates
MGR has issues with framerate when connected to a TV via HDMI, where it gets locked to 24Hz unless you make some registry changes (there's an app you can get for it but it shouldn't be needed.) It also requires an external app for 4k.
>TV
>HDMI
Found the problem(s)
That's barely patch worthy.
But it is a problem with the port that would ideally be solved in a re-release. That's all I'm getting at. Native 4k/60fps would be great.
It is a problem with the port. It has technical issues that they should remedy if they revisit the game.
I honest to god do not remember having to mess around in the registry for this game, but it does indeed not support resolutions above 1080p.
It's only an issue when connecting via HDMI to televisions. I can't remember the exact cause but it's something about like a media mode in Windows, I forget. There's a pinned thread about it in the Steam forums, including the fix.
>Why are they releasing this in volumes?
because money anon
money
they couldnt even be bothered to add kbm support, what makes you thik that theyre tweaking actual models of a ps3 game
>what makes you thik that theyre tweaking actual models of a ps3 game
So they can make money?
I swear, for every single thing publishers do you people complain about them trying to make money, but making money in itself is not enough of a motivation for company to do something.
You do know it's Konami we're talking about here, right?
A company that is already bringing back 2 titles that were taken down due to licensing issues?
I don't really think you played MGS4 if you think the licensing issues are comparable to those of 3.
I did enough of "game dev" to know it's not an issue. An intern can replace it.
Especially since Fox Engine was based on MGS4, and all the people are jerking off about how fantastic that engine was without actually interacting with editor.
>Fox Engine was based on MGS4
Hell no fox engine was way too fluid running
Did you actually run MGSV on PS3? Graphically it's less detailed than 4, and cutscenes actually run at 20fps or worse. In MGS4 at least cutscenes were consistent.
Also fun fact, even MGS3D for 3DS most likely uses the fork of MGS4 engine, as some of the level data is actually similar to MGS4 and somewhat compatible with MGSV.
A lot of that could just be remedied by changing textures and removing licensed music. The only real concern is stuff related to dialog (i.e. I think there's a Calorie Mate conversation,) which could be removed.
I think the PS references could remain if Sony was chill about it, which seems to be their MO now.
They would have to change the texture of basically every firearm in the game to frankenguns since they're all based on real counterparts.
Can literally just change a letter in the name but also the Supreme Goy Court had some ruling where gun manufacturers were told to frick off or something
I don't think they're doing that with the Master Collection guns, why would they for MGS4?
release confirmed
nice edit
MGS1: https://steamdb.info/app/2131630/
MGS2: https://steamdb.info/app/2131640/
MGS3: https://steamdb.info/app/2131650/
>mgs1
>no spanish audio
man i grew up with the spanish version
it was pretty good
%3D%3D
Every language dub for MGS1 is kino
german one is atrocious
t. german
Lmao Liquid sounds like a fat kid
they all sound weird in german
i prefer the spanish version for mgs1 unironically
all characters sound pretty cool for their ingame counterpart
Schlange hier
Ich bin in der nuklearän Verschrottungsanlage, aber ich habe keine Waffe.
Cornel, woher bekomme ich eine Waffe?
ja bruder tooten blasen schnitzel
Huh?? How are they going to do the bullshit pressure shit for mgs3 on pc??
This is probably where the bulk of the work is going to be lmao
cant remember how the HD remasters did it
Wasnt it like L1+ buttons or something?
DS3 is pressure sensitive
But a PC doesnt
They "fixed" this for Xbox release, hopefully they fine tune it
I believe you clicked in the stick to raise or lower your weapon. I do hope a better solution is offered but it'll probably be the same as the 360 version.
At least on Steam we can probably remap it.
Bluepoint already handled this by altering the control scheme in the 360 release. I dunno what buttons are used since I only ever played the PS3 version.
they should release a disc collection so we can actually play the game and not download it like a zoomer
hold on
wasnt there a copyright dispute with the MGS theme back in like 2008? are they gonna remove the mgs theme ?
I don't think it was a formal copyright dispute. I think Kojima avoided using it in subsequent games as a precaution against one. The original HD rereleases kept it, so I don't know why this one wouldn't.
POST STUFF THAT WILL BE CUT OUT
>mgs 1 psycho mantis controller mindtwist
>mgs 4 controller thing
Psycho Mantis will probably be fine; they'll probably let you use a 2P controller if you have it or keyboard if you don't.
MGS4 isn't in this collection, but I'm hoping Sony isn't a bag of dicks and that stuff can remain.
oh shit how uhm how are they going to handle psycho mantis on pc? with switching controllers
Probably a menu setting to "change" the input port
Did you read what I wrote? 2P controller if you have it, keyboard if you don't. You can use more than one wireless controller with one dongle, or have two wired controllers.
not everyone is using a controller on pc?
Well the game requires as per the steam store pages it so they will be.
>requires a controller
the frick?
well shit
So W#ll be able to buy each game separately then
Maybe not. Ninja Gaiden Master Collection has three separate store pages but can only be purchased as a bundle.
That said, you can buy them individually on Switch so probably yes, but on Switch at least you don't get the "bonuses" if you buy individually.
Yes
Maybe, maybe not. GTA The Defective Edition has stores for each game, but they can only be bought as a bundle.
I think someone said the store page said KB+M wasn't supported, not sure.
Actually how will they handle the scene where Colonel jokingly tells you to try switching ports when fighting Mantis in 4 until he realizes DS3 doesn't need that feature anymore
Or all the times they refer to the PS3 and the blu ray stuff lmao
they wont, the game wont ever come out on any system ever other than the ps3
unironically thinking of buying another ps3 just in case mine dies or is dead, havent turned it on in a couple years now
hoarding ftmfw
huh?
I am calling you a hoarder
in mg1 integral on pc you had to fight psycho mantis with kb if you had a gamepad and if you died and called the colonel he would tell you 'another trick'
>mgs 3 pressure sensitive buttons
>loads of dialogue and music
>textures and models
>minigames like guy savage and ape escape
>implicated sex scenes
>soul
Ape escape wasnt in the HD remaster so yeah
so? still cut content, which was fun too so its a shame
i will miss the skateboard mode
but i guess it's time to check thugpro to scratch that itch
Will be hilarious after all these years if they easily port MGS4 to Switch of all consoles.
It would be glorious if they did this while also improving the framerate.
>MGS threads are back
Ganker is healing….
If they're ever gonna do mgs 4, which i dont think they will because ps3 hardware, they'd havae to rename every gun
what are the system requirements for these games? did anyone check?
"Windows 10"
lame, thanks anyway.
just said minimum OS was Windows 10. Nothing else.
>MGS4 possibly coming to Switch
>Twin Snakes never ever though
What a crazy timeline this is.
why would you buy tbis on pc, just emulate them.
Whatever happened to her?
>Wrote a book
>Konami buys the rights to it
>Metal Gear Solid
she wrote a book about shadow Moses and helped philanthropy to an unseen extent
she also married me
>helped philanthropy
we ever get to know more than that?
like what did she actually do
I'd kill for a game set between MGS1 and 2 showing Snake and Otacon doing Philanthopy shit. And a game set between 2 and 4 showing Snake helping Raiden rescue Sunny and realizing he's being affected by advanced aging.
I just miss Solid bros. I hate that Kojima didn't like writing for him.
same
mgs2 clearly has the world setup with a bunch of countries having their own metal gear
but we never get to explore that part
Kojima literally thinks of Solid as non-human
>Kojima thinks
Didn't ask
Don't care
Based. But he's the creator
He may have come up with the basic premise but all the actual work was done by everyone else
I know that and I hate it. He also clearly wanted there to be no stories set in the Metal Gear universe after MGS4, hence changing the world so drastically and killing off Snake the way that he did.
While I love a lot of what he's made, his disdain for Snake and his burning the world behind him as he left always left a bad taste in my mouth.
He fricked things up so badly he couldn't even figure out how to make a game set in the universe he created and had to outsource it to Platinum for MGR. Thankfully they managed to carve something really unique out of it.
The Steam store pages aren't working for me, the links just redirect to the Steam store homepage
They hid the pages. See
for what was shown.
>Ganker posts about mgs again
Frick i missed you guys
Hell yeah!
>No Peace Walker
Ain't buying that shit...
>Vol. 1
>Vol. 1
abandon thread
trolls are here
that was me with Ganker in the early 2010s but with the entire board and not just one thread
Sorry, but the Legacy Collection is superior, and that's STILL stuck on PS3