Hard to say whether Phil is incompetent or malicious but it's unfortunate that real people are going to suffer the consequences of their lack of vision.
Microsoft greed finally backfiring?
Hard to say whether Phil is incompetent or malicious but it's unfortunate that real people are going to suffer the consequences of their lack of vision.
>real people
Yes anon I know you've got mommy and daddy's money to keep you afloat but it's still important to show basic human decency and empathy to people who actually need a job to pay rent / support a family.
diversity hires arent people
they literally are
>he thinks it's the diversity hires getting fired
lol, lmao even.
They are. But it's not 'just' them.' Nor is this merely a "video gaming crash." This is just the start of something much, much worse.
>but it's still important to show basic human decency and empathy to people who actually need a job to pay rent / support a family
Why?
The starbuck slurpers we speak of here sure showed that same decency to white male blue-collar "deplorables" while feeling on top of the world, huh?
>but (you) gotta be le better person!
No, frick them. No succor for traitors
The real truthpill to be had: These people are scum and deserve all the legal due process of trials and if found guilty then executions in some cases.
absolutely based, remember how they bent the knee about the vaccine and told us to be the better man? not even apologizing for all the witch hunts, insults and thousands of moral superiority tweets they made. frick them all
weak response
Look, I get that it's fun to act like a little sociopathic edgelord because you're 15, have no friends, and get bullied at school, but one day I guarantee you'll be embarrassed by this sort of behavior. Just hope for own your sake you grow up sooner rather than later.
somehow, you look even weaker
>t. obese keyboard culture warrior
hope you find the right path in life
>behavior
It's not behavior. It's a perspective.
People are dying in Ukraine by the hundreds of thousands. I don't care. Also, in addition to not caring, it has zero impact on my life.
This impact level and perspective seem to align.
Why would I care about some random Microsoft employees? Sure if I activate empathy I can imagine it sucks for them, but that creates no tangible impact on the world. Their lives are shit and my life remains completely separate.
There's not enough time in the day to even consider all of the various suffering in the world, much less care about it.
Feel free to communicate anything you do beyond virtue signalling anonymously, you beyond useless homosexual.
It's not perspective, it's cope.
>basic human decency and empathy
You need to go back, reddit-kun. That type of thing doesn’t exist on this site. And that’s a good thing!
People who shouldn't have had a job in the first place don't matter.
>it's still important to show basic human decency and empathy to people who actually need a job to pay rent / support a family.
Absolutely not.
If they were even partially competent at their job they wouldn’t be fired, these only impact the diversity hires that do nothing
soon™
the people who were laid off were of no value and were mostly diversity hires
>source: my entire worldview depends upon this being true
you're fricking moronic. you could be a great gamedev but the minute microtransactions make more money than your 10 hour single player campaign, you're getting canned (as for examples, just look at visceral, and its only worse now).
These are anti-natalist woke cultusts, what do you mean support a family?
I feel for wagies stuck in the absolute shittiest jobs, not entitled, communist office-types who strut around like they own the world.
The only "people" that lost their jobs were the 'QA' team aka the woketards ruining games.
Look at all the layoffs. No devs. No artists. No people who actually matter. All "QA"
>'QA' team aka the woketards ruining games.
frick off. people not testing their shit is half the reason why games are broken messes these days
kill yaself lol
don't worry, I'd say this to your face too
don't kid yourself you probably start sweating the moment you make eye contact with someone
I know this is Ganker but not everyone who browses it is as socially inept as (You)
moronic moral homosexuals like you will never make it anywhere
that's a pinky promise
>important to show basic human decency and empathy to people who actually need a job to pay rent / support a family
All those game devs want me and my white brother killed and replaced. Frick them.
no I dont. I want you to buy the game
well what is you game about and how low is it below 20 dollars
You want you and your white brothers to oppress every other individual and restrict their freedom of movement. Everybody else (including free thinking white people) should refuse to apologize to you.
Maybe once you start treating people like individuals people will have empathy for you.
Just admit you hate white people.
Everything is going to shit, and it's your fault.
It's time to just admit to yourselves that you're unlikable, and all the products you've made have been irredeemable garbage nobody wants to buy.
lmao shut the frick up you pathetic, self-victimizing little homosexual
Wow. Great comeback. It doesn't even make sense, but you said 'homosexual' so I bet you think you're a badass.
You are a homosexual, though.
Imagine the kind of moron that has an image like this saved.
Frick off, Resetera troony. The only 'evil white men' exist in your fantasies.
kys homo
youre projecting. youre a hateful racist, youre the one spewing racist filth
>these are the developers making your games
>but Ganker will still blame anything but the actual developers
Why is Ganker like this?
anon there have been hundreds of threads spammed about some literal who consulting company trying to revive gaymur gate
Ganker hates basically everyone in the industry with more involvement than a fricking janitor
>anon there have been hundreds of threads spammed about some literal who consulting company trying to revive gaymur gate
Yeah. And as much as they suck, why is Ganker blaming them instead of the devs?
People act as if the games would have actually been good if it just wasn't for sugarbab. It's ultimately the devs making these decision, and in the majority of cases you can be certain that they would have made these decisions even without any syrupy newborns.
And why? This chronic need to blame anything but the devs.
>And why? This chronic need to blame anything but the devs.
have you been here less than a week
every time some fricking game developer spews some garbage take on Twitter it's on the front page of Ganker within hours filled with people screeching about wokeism
The developer don't make design decisions. That's design or department heads. Developers do what they're told.
>still seething
I'm starting to love them because the presence of them and their language is a red flag that a game will be dogshit.
God bless that moronic BR.
>wwwaaahhhhh why don't people like it when I make the same thread 30 times a day and cry about jannies persecuting me 24/7
>still seething
>not denying spamming and ban evasion
>still seething
get a real job
Don't care. Frick you. You can't make worthwhile games. You suck at your job.
it's always funny to see leftoids use the "muh family" argument, when leftoids care more about inanimate objects than they do about their own family
It's the same reason why they default to bible and Jesus criticisms against their opponents. Shaming tactics is all they know.
>"This wont work on me, but if I use against you it might."
explain this image
it's a chart showing what people most care about
the middle is your family, relatives, friends
then the further outside you the farther removed things are from you
people in your country, the rest of humanity, mammals, other animals, plants, rocks, etc
Oh wow lefties are fricking freaks
>having bad relationship with your family makes you a libtard
now it finally makes sense why they have been trying to destroy the family unit for years
That's a really convincing unsourced image.
maybe spencer should scale down his cocaine and hooker habits and use that money to pay the people he's firing. but nah that would never happen, because some literally who on Ganker is obviously to blame
anyone working for microsoft is gay hes literally helping try and ungay them by firing them
t. unemployed pajeet
I am full of spite for my fellow man and their downfall brings me joy.
Decent bait, but everyone knows that most people in the video game industry are dead weight.
Not even reading all the replies trying to refute you and be "based." You're absolutely right and chuds are welcome to suck on my wiener.
Thank you, Phil
Based Phil building future dream teams.
The first thing you do when you buy a company is fire every incompetent or lazy shitter.
His generation probably underestimates how often zoomie talent will 'quiet quit' or 'get depressed' because their moronic friends got fired though.
Phil is saving us
thanks for killing calloduti, phil
This is why I always laugh at the xbabbies who are pretending Xbox's death is some sort of terrible thing. MS has always been dogshit, and a virus to the industry. Shitty build quality. Paid online. Ruining acquired studios...
One reason I was so happy about the buyout was the knowledge they'd run these shitty AAA studios into the ground. They're destined to mismanage Activision/Blizzard and kill them as well. I love it.
The problem is that Sony is just as fricking awful, and I need them to flop as well.
Sounds good, can’t wait to play the only occasional good games (third party) on a fisher price tablet.
your loss homosexual, not our fault you can only afford a switch instead of a pc
>The problem is that Sony is just as fricking awful, and I need them to flop as well.
They used to be good. And during the PS4 gen I somehow thought that it was still possible to course correct. But now I am thinking that ship might have sailed. I doubt it's even possible any more.
For one. They've bled far too much talent. Secondly. There appears to be no will to even shift towards first-party AA development.
>They used to be good
Yeah, when they were a JP company. They've just ceded everything to California and they're never going to be good again until some JP exec comes in with an iron fist and just says "we're taking this shit back".
>and just says "we're taking this shit back"
I mean. I'd love to see them try. But the talent that they've bled are already wrapped up in other businesses/companies now. Or retired.
The later could potentially be enticed to come back if things changed. But it'd be unlikely. And the former would just be extremely unlikely to happen since they've got new loyalties and or contracts at play now.
It genuinely sucks. And sure, they could try to cultivate new talent from the ground up. But since they've lost most of their internal talent already, they don't have much in ways of talent capable of serving as mentors to younger talent. Making it increasingly more difficult to build something from the ground up.
I don't want to be a doomer about it. But it's extremely difficult to see Playstation returning to good Playstation.
i really hope they just close blizzard down completely
Why would they do that when it's a free money machine?
Remember the time when Microsoft hired hundreds of Pajeets to shill on Ganker of all places?
Fricking hilarious
what evidence is there of that? do you really think anyone actually gets paid to try and appeal to a bunch of perpetually miserable contrarians/doomposters?
I do it all the time
>what evidence is there of that?
all the games i hate keep being posted here, there is no better evidence than that
Considering Ganker literally made Fromsoft and Riot games something over a billion dollars each just by hyping up their shitty games, yes I do think they spend money to market to anons here.
The problem is Microsoft is shit.
>onsidering Ganker literally made Fromsoft and Riot games something over a billion dollars each just by hyping up their shitty games
No.
You're stupid and don't know how online marketing works
let's see... I could:
>spend money advertising to normies on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok
or
>spend money advertising to a bunch of whiny manchildren who kick and scream and froth at the mouth anytime a new game is released
hmmmmmmmmmmm tough decision.........
Thanks for further proving my point dumb shit you don't know how online marketing works stop pretending to know about shit you don't know about dumb newbie tourist too
You sure sound like a whiny manchild, anon. Thanks for further proving my point.
1) bots exist and can be trained on Ganker archives
2) you want autists and neets shilling for you because they're autistic and will go out of their way to do it for free(look at the schizos we have like barry that have been shilling ff15 for fricking years.)
3) they have shills on most social media sites to spread a consistent narrative. that's why it feels like most of the social media sites are so homogenized now and all have the same talking points.
>spending money advertising to people who don't care about your game and won't have any reason to do so either
Or
>spending money on morons who will whine and cry but still buy your game out of sheer moronation
>Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok
I worked in digital advertising as a software engineer, and those platforms all give garbage-tier returns on most products and services. Search engines are where the real money is, which basically just means Google because they have such a giant market share of online searches. I think a large part of it is due to people seeing ads injected during videos or content feeds and being able to recognize it as an ad, so they mentally filter it out, whereas your average Joe doesn't really notice an advertisement on Google as being an ad most of the time, so they actually read it.
Literally all of this can be tracked with ease too:
>how many people saw my ad
>how many people clicked my ad
>how many people saw my ad, did not click it, but then went to my website directly
>how many people actually purchased my product after seeing my ad
>how many people most likely did not see an ad anywhere before buying my product
It's all stuff we would ingest from the ad platforms daily and turn into pretty graphs for marketers and salespeople to look at. Term they use is "impressions" for people seeing stuff without necessarily clicking or buying something. So they want to basically see
>Do my sales/profit scale with impressions on this platform?
If not, then the ROI is shitty, and they would rather spend the advertising dollars elsewhere. You could probably get a frickton of impressions by shilling on Ganker, but I would wager the ROI would be absolutely abysmal compared to just plopping an ad campaign on Google.
some games get pretty flagrant shill threads from the week before until the week after they're released.
Ganker here street shitters have been shilling that board for years.
Majority of the people here are shut-ins that don't know how the world works. If they did they wouldn't be so isolated and miserable.
>if they knew how the world worked they wouldn't be so miserable
oh wow
You skipped some words in your quote but you got the general idea.
Nintendo is on track to surpass the Playstation 2's lifetime sales with the little hybrid Nintendo Switch console. And Sony with their lukewarm 1st party output on the PS5 is smashing sales records during and after a COVID and recession 1-2 punch. Seems strange that Phil Spencer is trying to speak as if the ground is sinking when its Xbox leadership with a jackhammer smashing their own part of the console landscape with their boneheaded moves. Valve put out a handheld then released another updated revision in the handheld space than Sony abandoned. There's a successful CGI video game movie under Nintendo and the Despicable Me studio that's getting a sequel. Tons of indie games are grown enough to sastify everyone between major AAA releases. Self publishing has never been easier and thanks to Valve there's more pressure to have lower spec PC ports for SteamDeck and other users to play without paying for high end PC parts.
And Xbox's out there. Struggling. Inflicting gunshot wound to themselves and asking why consumers abandoned them. Fricking wild man how Spencer still has a job. Not once since Xbox has bent their knees to Playstation and Nintendo has any Microsoft PR statement encourage anyone to buy into their platform ecosystem, always telling you to rent games or buy their games elsewhere off Xbox. Bold leadership.
but Ganker told me xbox's library was actually good and people just bought snoy because it was impossible to convert them. how come all the playstation exclusives on PC have good steam reviews and all the xbox games have bad ones? could xbox actually just be losing because their games suck? did Ganker lie to me?
>Snoy crawls out from under the floorboards like roaches after MS says they want the next Xbox to have multiple storefronts
Interesting timing
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/filename/1705867634230947.jpg/
Shush now, marketer
ESL aside, you're right. Xbox loves to project their own fumbles and failures onto the entire industry.
How has Starfield gotten worse since it released?
They stopped deleting negative reviews.
>xbox's library was actually good
The library is mostly the same on PC, PS5 and Xbox Series X/S. The issue for Microsoft is that PlayStation and Xbox compete in the same exact market... but PlayStation has better exclusives, even if there are just a few of them.
"PC", "handheld console" and "home console" are their own markets with very little overlap. PC is its own thing, Nintendo competes against nothing because they BTFOed everyone else out of that market. Sony and Microsoft are essentially selling the same exact product.
If you're a customer who wants to buy a current-gen home console, why would you ever get an Xbox? PS5 gets the same games AND a good exclusive once in a while. Xbox also gets exclusives from time to time, but they're shit. There, that's the only difference between PlayStation and Xbox this generation.
Hifi Rush is better than any PS5 exclusive.
It's a mediocre rhythm platformer with shitty, corporate music. It's like the whole game was designed by the HR department. It's been sapped of all life in a misguided effort to appeal to "modern audiences" (twitter pussies)
Even if Xbox put out a "handheld console hybrid" the consumer trust foundation has been broken. The Sega Dreamcast was a good console but the trust was broken with the Saturn being ditched so early. We're only 3 years into this generation and Xbox Series consoles flatlined completely way WAY under the Xbox One. If I'm itching for a portable the Xbox brand is the last thing on my mind. Marketers have no idea just why marketing works to build trust in the brand and Xbox's marketing disappeared in Europe and then their marketing/PR these days is their products don't matter just pay the GamePass rent.
Yeah, at this point the generation is lost. And it seems it's only going to get worse going forward, I wouldn't be surprised if third-party developers started giving up on Xbox entirely because they can't be bothered with supporting Series S.
I have no idea what they could do to "save" Xbox, realistically... other than pumping out good games and hoping Sony starts producing turds instead. That's more or less how the PS3 ended up "winning" the 7th generation.
>Even if Xbox put out a "handheld console hybrid" the consumer trust foundation has been broken.
That's probably their best chance, it would be something the competition doesn't offer: the ability to play games on Series X, upload the savefile to the cloud, download that same savefile on your Xbox Vita, and keep playing on the go. It's basically what I do with my Steam Deck and it's great, but as I said the PC market is its own thing.
But apparently Sony is also working on some sort of PSP3 based on the same concept, so...
Playstation are in bigger shit than Xbox is
Not really, PS5 is selling great.
>There's an audience for GamePass but they're poor people.
Everyone likes paying less, not just poor people. They assumed they were going to dominate the videogame market with GamePass, that everyone would start publishing their games on this service like everyone started launching their TV shows on Netflix. The idea was to attract new subscribers with high-quality exclusives, available from day-one for just $15 a month, and then these people would stick with it.
But:
1) Most of these exclusives were either bad (Halo Infinite, Redfall, Starfield...) or niche (Psychonauts 2, Hi-Fi Rush, Pentiment...).
2) People subscribed for $1, played all they wanted to play, and then unsubscribed.
3) It turns out people don't play that many games throughout the year. It's not the same as TV shows, that can be "consumed" in a couple of days. Elden Ring lasted me an entire month, my entire free time was filled by one game. I don't care if Microsoft added 9999 games to their service, I'm playing ONE game.
>Not really, PS5 is selling great.
Ok, and they make less profit than Xbox
>The library is mostly the same on PC, PS5 and Xbox Series X/S
Only if you view it from mainstream titles. The Xbox in particular lacks a bunch of Japanese games because it simply isn't profitable to port to the thing or because Sony is getting exclusivity rights. This means the lower end games that you would be getting in addition to the AAA western games when there's a lull in the release schedule aren't there for Xbox unless you go back to the older gens and even there it's not all of them when you go to the Xbone catalogue. If you like anything but the most notable of mainstream games you're not gonna find it on Xbox.
Sony and Nintendo are the ones getting Japanese games while PC gets more notable ones. Or companies like Capcom and Sega realized it's better to support PC rather than ignore it as multiplat companies so they started porting stuff to it. Xbox is also typically the sole market not to get physical copies of more niche games which leads to even less visibility for those games on their platform leading to even worse sales so the companies care even less to port to it. Digimon Survive for example shelfwarmed on Xbox and was discounted before Switch and PS4 from what I recall, same goes for World of Final Fantasy: Maxima.
Say what you want about Sony, they still have the niche Japanese market but due to their idiocy they're more split evenly with Nintendo now in terms of who has what, but at least they have it. Microsoft doesn't. Microsoft has tried to buy into that market by giving Sega a bunch of advertisement and to port stuff like Yakuza and Persona on what I'm pretty sure is their dime when it's already gotten big and established itself on Playstation. They're not naturally bringing in Japanese devs and not actively courting smaller developers like they did back in the 360 days with XNA, Community games, and the entire Arcade games push. Why in the world did they kill off those programs?
anon ps2 was 20 years ago. back in 2007 the most played game on steam only had 100k players
big hit games like tf2 had about 20k
There's no greentext on twitter
>phil doesn't even try to make games
>comes out and says "good games don't sell consoles"
what the frick is his problem
Unless you're Nintendo, the most played games are multiplat free to play games.
well why doesn't he try to be like nintendo
He wants to buy them for a reason.
Microsoft doing a hostile takeover of Nintendo would mean Japan joining the brics and Taiwan and western computing as a whole is lost. Maybe Microsoft should just frick off before Phil is unironically responsible for WW3 kicking off
I don't see why they couldn't make this their market other than the fact M$ is full of westoids who hate "le coomers" like the tourists in these threads.
You would think these console companies would see the bank Blue Archive and Genshin are making and want to rush to that goldmine, but I guess "The Message" comes above any and all money or market appeal. Better shove more uggos in 200 million dollar games while Genshin adds another big-titted waifu.
>but I guess "The Message" comes above any and all money or market appeal.
Happens when you got a trillionare israelite with a troon fetish funding these under 16 different shell companies
>genshin impact
Reminder they went to Microsoft first but told them to frick off so they missed out on billions. Same with spiderman to miss out on billions again, only reason Microsoft is even alive is because of windows. It’s fricking crazy when you think about it and how much they fricked up
>Same with spiderman to miss out on billions again,
After looking at the Insomniac leaks, MS dodged a bullet. Disney is fricking Sony in that deal, and now Insomniac is a Marvel factory.
Yeah but you can play f2p games anywhere.
You actually give customers a reason to pick your platform over others if you have exclusives.
The worst part is how Sony just starts copying those shitty business practices.
Then again they've always picked up other ideas and immediately abandoned the project
None of the Western studioes they own are capable of making a good game outside of Tango, so they pivoted to services, which is good because Redfall and Srarfield just further westerners can't into art because they lack a culture of their own
Sony being in California and connected to all the Leftist clicks get access to a lot of the western talent, too bad none of it gets put too good use though, just throwing 300mil at something at making it cinematic slop ooooh
thanks, phil
From the thumbnail I thought Phil Spencer was wearing a Halo Infinite crop top.
Sexu with Pantsu-on-Headchan
I thought it was a stern looking brunette woman with her hair pulled back in a tight bun wearing an open suit jacket and a blue crop top showing midriff. Was disappoint.
him announcing the start of his hrt would save microshart for sure
tbf layoffs are happening all throughout the industry
Whats going on at Double Fine? Have they done anything since Psychonauts 2?
>Buys biggest developer with a ton of classic IPs just to get CoD which they still have to share with other platforms
>TFW Tony Hawk, Gun, SWAT, True Crime, Crash, classic Tenchu, Blur, Crash, Spyro, Hexen will all just rot in infinity because they don't immediately appeal to 13 year olds and 3rd worlders
Xbox is going multiplatform which is great for consumers.
"We are not in the business of out-consoling Sony or out-consoling Nintendo. There isn't really a great solution or win for us. And I know that will upset a ton of people. But the truth of the matter is that when you're third place in a console marketplace and the top two players are as strong as they are and in certain cases have a discrete focus on doing deals and other things that will--that make being Xbox hard for us as a team--our vision is everyone on console has a great experience and they feel like a first-class citizen," - Phil Spencer (head of Microsoft Gaming Studios)
"I see commentary out there--'If you just build great games, everything will turn around.' It's just not true [that] if we go off and build great games, all of a sudden you're going to see console share shift in some dramatic way. I see a lot of pundits out there who kind of want to go back to the time where we all had cartridges and discs and every new generation was a clean slate. And you could switch the whole console share. That is just not the world that we are in today. There is no world where Starfield is an 11/10 and people start selling their PS5s. That's not going to happen." - Phil Spencer (head of Microsoft Gaming Studios)
>it's hopeless just give me my million dollar bonus so I can go cry on my yacht.
Frick these heebs, seriously.
>"I see commentary out there--'If you just build great games, everything will turn around.' It's just not true
JUST MAKE GOOD GAMES PHIL
JUST TRY IT FOR ONCE
FOR FRICKS SAKE, PHIL
but it's too harddddddd :~~*
i love how everyone with control over video game creation utterly despises video games. such a funny combo
Lots of great games are on game pass?
Phil Spencer is the greatest inside job man Sony could hire to destroy a competitor for 10 years.
Xbox make more profit than Playstation
There's just no way this is true unless Xbox is using some creative accounting tricks to pass their expenses onto other Microsoft divisions
It is. Sony's game budgets are that inflated that Microsoft overtakes them. Both aren't even close to Nintendo.
Because somehow everyone thought it's fine to buy 7 hours games with AA level of production if they are from Nintendo for 70$.
Personally I didn't fall for it but I can't deny Nintendo is genius for normalizing it.
It is becausse sony is fricking up beyond hard with their budgets and spending $500M to render miles' Black person hair and mj's disproportionated face.
Microsoft is literally beating them by doing absolutely nothing, contrary to what it may seem online.
Microsoft isn't beating anybody kek
The biggest game on ps5 is ms owned lol
Why are you pretending that Xbox is like Steam where it does nothing and still wins kek
MS is literally planning to phasing out their hardware division
I like how Microsoft pretends that they have tried making good games for the Xbox (whatever version it's called now) and it's just not working. Good games drive console sales
At this point it's clear they just wanted the rights to all these IPs so they can do literally anything *but* make games with them (see, e.g., Halo TV series, Fallout TV series)
Yeah. Trying to claim they tried to make good games when their games are trash like Redwall and Starfield is hilarious.
>Using the edit that doesn't include Psychonauts 2
homosexual.
Also, it's not like the Game Awards means a game is actually good, just popular. After playing through Spiderman 2, that being up for GotY was a fricking joke.
The game advertisements don't mean popular either. Tlou2 is nowhere near as popular as anial crossing, flippin fellas, amogus and what not all released that year. Everyone who has seen a second of that shitshow knows sony paid for the awards juzst like they pay for review scores and all the "journalists" spamming fud after fud against xbox nintendo while licking sonys balls.
lmao that snoy list is embarrassing
jfk
Bloodborne, Death Stranding, and Ghost of Tsushima are all 10/10 games
don't really care about the rest though
lmfao
name 3 10/10 games for you
???
He's just the type that calls everything shit, plays some shitty MMO or gacha for 80 hours a week, and b***hes about it too.
Pathetic cope, Phil.
i don't understand why every single first party snoy game gets nominated for game of the year when they're usually not worth the plastic disc they're printed on after a month
Maybe because they're actually pretty good and people who haven't had their brains turned to mush from chronic Ganker exposure have fun playing them? Nothing wrong with beating a single-player game in a month and moving onto something else. The whole 'video games should be played forever / have infinite replay value' attitude is why we have GaaS metastasizing its way through everything
>make a game thats so dull that no one wants to replay it again
>its GaaS fault that no one wants to replay it
Just admit the game is so boring that not even speedrunner troons want to touch it
truly remarkable levels of cope but I guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore
>Maybe because they're actually pretty good
if that were true then they wouldn't be bargain bin products after a year, only getting sales because they're bundled in with consoles. nintendo makes single player games too, but they actually retain their value because people LIKE them and want to REPLAY them.
that has to do with the fact that nintendo's cartridges are proprietary and cartridges cost more to make than cds regardless. it's like the n64 vs playstaiton, n64 games were way more expensive than psx games. don't confuse that with game quality, unless you really want die on the hill of castlevania 64 being better than sotn.
>nintendo's games don't go down in price and people are willing to pay the higher price because they cost nintendo more to manufacture
I do not give a single frick about how much it costs to make.
And not only is your Castlevania 64 example WRONG because it is *not* more expensive than SotN, but it's also irrelevant because those are 30 year old games, so the price of manufacture is irrelevant to the modern consumer. Actual quality is what kept Wii U games at $60 rather than $10 like PS4 games, and it's what keeps Switch games at $60 after years. People are willing to pay that much for a product if they think the product actually has that much value. Lowering a game to less than 20% of its initial retail price means you don't think it was even worth what you originally asked for it, and this is coming from the company that also pretends like their games are worth $70.
i'm talking about at release and for the initial years following it when sotn new was $40-$50, the greatest hits was $20, $10 for a used copy and then it was on sale for $5 in bargain bins at the end of the the consoles life. final fantasy tactics was the same way while quest 64 was more expensive to purchase because it cost the publishers more to make. that's why you had n64 games that cost $70 while most playstation games were $40-$50 when new.
> so the price of manufacture is irrelevant to the modern consumer
it isn't when we're talking about modern games lmao. the aftermarket retro gaming scam is something completely different.
you stupid moron that was clearly only applicable THEN. it is not applicable NOW. Switch games are not retailing for $80 while Playstation games are retailing at $40-$50, quite the opposite, because Switch games (aside from TotK) are only $60 and Playstation games are $70.
there are plenty of third party switch games that cost $15 or less now, you know why? because they're TRASH that nobody wants, which puts them in the same category as first party sony exclusives
>are only $60 and Playstation games are $70
In Europe it's unironically 60€ versus 80€.
And I can't believe Playstation doesn't get more shit for that.
a physical copy of witcher 3 on switch is more expensive than on the other consoles when it goes on sale because the cartridges cost more to make so they can't make it as cheap as the disc versions and still get the same margins. sorry, i should have used this example first because apparently comparing the situation to a time before you were born is a bit too high concept. disc versions aren't $70 for long either, yakuza 8 and persona 3 reload are already down to $40 for physical copies and those came out 2 months ago.
>a physical copy of witcher 3 on switch is more expensive than on the other consoles when it goes on sale because the cartridges cost more to make so they can't make it as cheap as the disc versions and still get the same margins
You moron, it doesn't go on sale on the Switch because they didn't make as many copies, and it has been out of print for years now. The reason it is so expensive is because the resellers who still have copies know people are willing to pay more for the game physically because it's essentially a collectible at this point, much like a 30 year old game that you tried to use as an example earlier. Anyone who just wants to PLAY the game is free to get it on the eshop, where it goes on sale regularly, and is in fact on sale right now for only $15
>disc versions aren't $70 for long either, yakuza 8 and persona 3 reload are already down to $40 for physical copies and those came out 2 months ago.
because those are fricking trash games, sorry you homies just have shit taste
IDK what you two are arguing about but the prices of physical games post-release fluctuate depending on their reviews and how many copies were printed. If a game is a stinker and they made a lot of copies, the prices after release will plummet just like Suicide Squad is already at half off price on discs but keeping its digital price at full 70 dollars even on Steam which is hilarious. A game like Witcher 3 uses the highest cartridge size so that's never going to be for 20 dollars ever, meanwhile a 3rd party game like Persona will cheap out on the cartridge and be under 30.
>You moron, it doesn't go on sale on the Switch because they didn't make as many copies, and it has been out of print for years now
because of the cost of cartridges vs discs. especially in the case of witcher 3 where they used a 32gb cartridge which cost the publisher about $30 per cartridge when the witcher 3 switch port was released.
what some companies do now(especially sega) is discount games shortly after release in hopes that people will use the money that they saved to buy dlc for the game they purchased. sega has been doing it for years now so i assume it works well enough.
>(especially sega) is discount games shortly after release in hopes that people will use the money that they saved to buy dlc for the game they purchased. sega has been doing it for years now so i assume it works well enough.
Oh yeah, I noticed it. You're not crazy this is actually SEGA's bread and butter, but it works because I do take their bait. A lot of SEGA games have a mountain of DLC, the physical games get bait sales at lower prices, and you end up paying SEGA close enough to the full price with hte DLC at the end of the day. But if the DLC is not compelling at all it'll never work. Now that we talked about it I'm struggling to figure out which other publishers do this sales bait tactic.
Release full price->DLC bait->Game gets signifcant sales like 3 months after release->Took the bait right here
capcom does it too, they actually added post release mtx to the re4 remake around the time it started going on sale which is pretty damn funny. sega is insane when it comes to this though, sonic frontiers was $30 on black friday and the game came out early november and i remember smtv was also 30$ off 2 or 3 weeks after it came out.
Your image kinda hurts your argument, since you said that SOTN is "snoy shit" so it should have a lower price tag.
>Boreizon
>Pretty good
Frick off marketer
>he whole 'video games should be played forever / have infinite replay value'
You shitting me? Those Black folk aren't even finishing their games anymore, nevermind giving them any 'replay value'
>b-but our statistics said 50% of buyers are not finishing them anyway, so just making a good chapter one is enough!
Just because some fools think it is fine to buy a car only to wank about having it sit in their garage and look shiny, doesn't mean you are allowed to sell ME an empty vehicle body or one that does not run more than 1000 miles
Microsoft doesn't want to make games. They want to own a platform so they can extract rent from everyone who does make games.
didn't Halo Infinite get a bunch of awards?
>There is no world where Starfield is an 11/10
Phil is trying to say that even with basically unlimited resources for development they still need to purposefully make starfield and other games they publish shitty. Grim.
what the frick Metroid Dread was 3 years ago? Ragnarok 2 years ago?
The last of us came out 11 years ago...frick.
>there's no world where starfield is an 11/10 and people start selling their PS5s
No but if you build high quality first party IPs and keep them exclusive to your platforms you provide an incentive for people to buy your platform, you dumb homosexual. Do you think people buy Nintendo consoles for the incredible online features and high quality hardware?
You buy half of the fricking game industry, somehow manage to produce only schlock then are amazed that people aren't lining up to buy your console. Honestly frick Phil, he's an idiot. Microsoft is the new EA now that EA mostly stopped caring about ruining companies because putting gacha in fifa makes more money.
Sony isn't any better so idk why people are trying to deflect to that. They're a company with a console that at any given time has one or two exclusive games worth playing selling a console at a loss in hopes that they make it back in software. it's a fundamentally unsustainable strategy. Nintendo is the only console company worth a shit because they're the only ones all in on gaming, the others are just divisions.
He's right, it wouldn't be enough for Xbox to do well, they would need Sony and Nintendo to lose. They need an Xbox One DRM moment and Wii lack of "real" games situation along with a super strong library and console of their own to start making a dent.
They could start with the strong library thing, that could be a good sign
They fricking had their DRM moment. The consoles came out and nobody could buy them. They had two fricking years to build up a library that would shame Sony and they fell flat on their faces instead. Every console gen you're playing the long game, doing shit this gen to attract people next gen and grab people who will buy two consoles. This generation was an exception to this because of scalping and supply chain issues and they still failed to deliver.
Hes not right? The 360 was in the lead for the 7th gen majority of the time until they stopped pumping out worthwhile exclusives which than sony caught back up and overtook them by near the end. Is that proof of enough that worthwhile good exclusives do in fact attract people? Remind xbox tried to frick over consumers with the xbox and it backfired and now we need to hear the pity parade? Frick em
they were in the lead because their console was cheaper, nothing more
Phil is like a fat tumblrina making a thread about losing weight
>BUT DON'T TELL ME TO STOP EATING
>BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T WORK
>lack of growth
>LINE NOT GO UP??? FIRE EVERYONE!!!
lol
that said they do deserve to get fired
Feels like MSFT partners do really well while their internal studios are struggling to produce decent games.
>buys a bunch of companies
>they were making shit like redfall and starfield
>fug :DDD
fixed it.
>yeah, the games are shit
>but we didn't even WANT to make good games
>because good games don't sell consoles!
Is Phil a FtM troony?
Phil also told us Redfall was fun and player lots before it came out with no preformance issues. same with starfield. I laughed when he was crying about not getting helldivers
We need him back Xbros.
crazy to think this dude is a million times better than phil
>finally backfiring?
It's been backfiring for almost a decade now.
There's no growth cause there's barely any games that aren't shovelware tier garbage getting released.
Microsoft ended like 4 different E3 and video presentations with Redfall being their flagship killer exclusive.
How did it turn out? I don't play western AAA games
Its a mess that was way outside the expertise of the team they had making it
>it's Microsoft's fault the industry is collapsing!
lol is it also microsoft's fault that every tech company and gaming company in the west is also doing layoffs?
yes because they and embracer bought them all and run them like disposable slaves
To be honest I don’t think MSFT should focus on competion really. They have a growing platform in the Xbox marketplace and lots of studios. Their main issue is the poor quality of first party games. They can start thinking about competition only after they button that shit up first. You can’t focus on competition if your products aren’t competitive first and foremost.
>growing
They can't grow the "marketplace" if they don't have people in their ecosystem. If you are implying the Microsoft Store marketplace, aren't consumers right now waiting out PC ports to hit Steam? Ubisoft, EA, and even Microsoft ran back to Steam Storefront after leaving Gabe Newell.
If you're implying "marketplace" as a GamePass renting trap, if Microsoft was doing so well they'd be shouting hitting new milestones every month. Instead the head of Microsoft said he's no longer tying his executive bonus with GamePass growth. It's not a sustainable business model and it's market cap growth stopped with the number of Xbox consoles they've been able to sell. You can theorycraft the hypothetical profits of Xbox Marketplace/GamePass all day but they're not growing with the console hardware team down on the ground, way below the Xbox One sales pacing.
I want Xbox to be competitive but they're the ones leaving out physical discs, retailers aren't stocking their games which means not even basic advertising gets done, they don't localize games in major European countries, their business model is driving people to play THEIR CURATED rental games and nothing else matters. Time is the most important thing for most people and there are too many games out there for someone to play what Microsoft wants you to play. Their line of thinking is extremely flawed and misguided and they have had GamePass out there for more than 6 years without it being a runaway success.
good thing this phenomenon is restricted to xbox, a company I dislike, and is not representative of an industry-wide trend. I'm a snoy by the way, and trans.
It's been backfiring for a while now.
This is what they get for ruining Halo.
I like how people will come up with these fantasies about how every move a corporation makes is calculated and to their optimal benefit, and then in reality you get moronation like this.
Phil, and pretty much everyone at MS, knew exactly where the future of gaming was going. Had they tried that shit they did with the Xbone a few years later, no one would have batten an eye. Phil's issue is that he's too open with how things are gonna be. Sony is also going through it now. Remember how they lost 10B in value just because they couldn't sell enough PS5 this quarter? Technically, Sony is in a far worse position than MS because of their overspending with low profit margins, yet no one talks about it because the heads of Playstation shut the frick up about it. In the long run, Xbox will be fine because they have MS backing them. You should be more worried about Sony. They are the ones about to launch a Pro PS5 with 0 games. Even developers thi k thr pro is a waste of time.
Sony spent a bunch of money on Bungie and now seems to be having major buyers remorse. They didn't NEED to drop a billion on them. They could have just offered to hire them as consultants for whatever live-service game they wanted to make. Ironically enough it seems like they cancelled a lot of those games already so one of the big reasons they bought Bungie in the first place is no longer needed.
>Sony is in a far worse position than MS because of their overspending with low profit margins
Atleast they make games, even if they are shit
>Atleast they make games, even if they are shit
Sony has released fewer games this gen than MS. The reason why Sony's spending is so damn high is because they keep paying for exclusives, but now those exclusives aren't even selling anymore.
>b-b-b-but Sony!!!!
This isn't a thread about Sony, anon. Try to stay on topic.
>Phil's issue is that he's too open with how things are gonna be
Phil's issue is he is a liar and incompetent. He had 23 years and all Xbox has been is a failure.
I really do feel for the Xbox fans.
What an utterly shit hand they've been dealt.
Trust the plan
The important thing is they had a lot of fun pushing troony meds on children.
It worked
>Blizzard
>Bethesda
>343i
What's with all the snoy fud spam threads lately?
And does he actually think copypasing clickbait headlines and samegayging with twitch frog is fooling anyone?
How is this fud you moronic Black person? The only thing Xbox is good for is playing OG and 360 games upscaled, which as a /vr/ gay I personally enjoy but I don’t even bother with goypass I have a gaming PC. Put JSRF on with backwards comparability boost and bring back Daytona 360 version you fricking turbo Black person Phil DO YOU HEAR ME?????????
>The only thing Xbox is good for is playing OG and 360 games upscaled
There are like 3 games that are worth it for that
I mean yeah I’d didn’t say it was a lot lmao, that plus rare replay. If Xenia and Xemu ever improve (lol, lmao even) it’s super over
>What's with all the snoy fud spam threads lately?
It's been a bad few weeks for them with Sony admitting PS5 doesn't make any money and has overspent. Add in FF7 Rebirth's underperformance at retail, Ronin getting average reviews, Stellar Blade's demo being "Pretty but shallow" and PS5 Pro's upgrade being a massive nothingburger and they are lashing out.
>PS5 doesn't make any money and has overspent
Why does it matter for us if companies are making money?
It's Xbox marketing team cope because the Xbox Series consoles have sold 22 million, PS5 sold 55 million, and Switch is over 140 million. Xbox One sold more than the Xbox Series and Microsoft dropped the price to 350 and 150 dollars on the Series consoles. They are beyond fricked in the console side.
> PS5 sold 55 million,
That was a lie by Sony. They SHIPPED 55m PS5, not sold.
>PS5 sold 55 million
Anon, that's the problem though, Sony sells their consoles at a loss so higher sales is actually bad for them if there are no PS5 games to buy kek
The average PS4 owner bought like 9 games, if the average PS5 owner only buys like 1.7 games it's an actual disaster for them
The disaster if Microsoft discounting the Series X and S to 350 and 150 dollars regularly. It trains consumers to think their brand is valued less than PS5 and they eat a huge loss per sold unit. Microsoft even readjusted the Seres S price by bringing a price hike to it outside of USA. Microsoft is signifncantly way worse off than Sony at the accounting level, Ganker anon.
>Snoy cope the PS5 is an expensive failure
>Why does it matter for us if companies are making money?
Because they aren't. Well, in this case, Sony isn't. MS betting on AI has made them more money than both Nintendo and Sony net worth combined, and Nintendo is still killing it with the Switch. Sony is the only one that actually can fall if they continue to be moronic with their overspending. Sony needs the playstation brand to be successful to survive, while MS doesn't for Xbox.
>LEAVE THE TRILLION DOLLAR COMPANY ALOOOONE
holy fricking KEK
>Microsoft doesn't need to make games!
>I will suck their dick REGARDLESS
Well okay? Wrong board doe
Xbox's library stays the same (small) while his breasts keep growing. How does he do it?
After that Christopher Ding reporting that 3rd parties are thinking of skipping making Xbox ports I'm thinking Q4 2024 is when Xbox consoles cease production. Similar vibes to the Sega Dreamcast final months.
Phil Spencer opens his mouth. Never gives reason to go out and buy an Xbox console. A tale old as the day Xbox One was announced.
Meanwhile, at Sony...
>make a live service hellscape
>your players hate you
>act demoralized and confused about this
wow what a shocker. who could have foreseen
Remember when Bungie were beloved?
would be extremely based if Sony kills Destiny tbqh, it's long overdue
Wasn’t this always the case after they bought them? Heard they said they would leave them alone if they didn’t frick up but they did so they had to step ing. Honestly tho I don’t understand how anyone could play that game with huge story beats missing and I’m surely it’s not getting many new players and bleeding older players
Currently Bungie's execs are trying to torch the whole company to keep their money and avoid being replaced
this is not just microshit. it's most companies in the industry. even games under nintendo's umbrella take eons to release and some of them are bad despite the long wait, but they benefit from very strong brand loyalty. it's all pretty common now, it's just stunning to see it happen with a major franchise like halo. makes you wonder if they hate money?
>criticise xbox for anything
>some homosexual comes out of the woodwork
>b-b-but snoy-
is it possible to have a normal conversation with you people
Because it's always snoys, anon.
You're legit insane, a mindbroken cuck
Thread is about Xbox and he drags Playstation news articles. PS5 is outselling the Xbox Series 10 to 1 on average.
Same with trying to call out Nintendo for having no games this year, theres always the samegay shill spamming "snoy", when in reality, the snoys pop up when theres actually good games on a rival console
>Phil is talking about why gaming as a whole is changing and why they need to pivot
>NOOO YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO POST ABOUT HOW SONY IS ALSO IN TROUBLE IF THEY DONT ADAPT
>>Phil is talking about why gaming as a whole is changing and why they need to pivot
Pivot to another board then. Maybe Ganker is your place
>Phil is talking about why gaming as a whole is changing and why they need to pivot
Weird that Sony and Nintendo don't have these issues. Why would Sony and Nintendo listen to a third place competitor that's putting their games on Sony and Nintendo's platforms free of charge? What does Microsoft get in return for putting Hi Fi Rush on Playstation 5 from Sony's catalog of games? This is the conversation Phil wants to have.
Is Helldivers 2 coming out next week on Xbox in return? Fascinating marketing team conversation, this is the legit Xbox marketing team thought process.
I still don't get what the frick they were thinking with trying to make Xbox the exclusives-free console
>Sony is having so many issues selling first party titles they are now looking to do day one on PC for all titles
>"SONY HAS NO ISSUES!!!"
Amusing. Meanwhile in reality, they can't even give their first party titles away
>Weird that Sony and Nintendo don't have these issues.
What the frick are you talking about? Sony is going through the same shit right now. It's crazy how people just fricking forgot all the shit Sony has done in just the last few months.
>Canceled a bunch of games
>Closed down one of their studios
>fired 10% of their gaming force
>lost 10B in value
>Only have plans to make remakes and remasters only
>Not even releasing a single big game for this year
>Rebirth flopping hard
>Having Buyers Remorse for Bungie
>Games costing too much to make while also taking too long to release.
>Disney fricking them in the ass with licensing
Xbox canceled Scalebound, and people treated it like it was the final death nail for Xbox. Sony cancels 6 games and closes down a studio, but everything is just fine.
All of those are good things because Sony is just cutting the wheat from the chaff. You're just mad.
>you receive nothing
no. xbots will receive nothing. MS is now making money with multiple playstation buyers
I mean people are allowed to use Sony as a comparison and remark that they aren't doing all that well either
if Phil ordained me as the CEO of Halo I would make Xbox the dominant platform in 5 years
The Nintendo Switch has outsold the Xbox One and Series consoles combined. The closest console Xbox Series X sold units is the Sega Dreamcast and Jaguar.
Microsoft ruined Starfield, and Todd will have his revenge.
bruh look at what we got for Starfield and imagine if Phil didn't force them to delay launch for a year - he tried to save it
BGS argued for the delay
How the frick hasn't b***hbreasts been fired by now? Jesus christ, what I wouldn't give to see how much Xbox spent for the Series in its first three years, next to how much Nintendo spent for the Switch in seven years. Maybe it's a good thing we don't have that info though, I'd cause an earthquake with the absolute bone-crusher of a deep gut laugh I'd let out if I saw that info.
When did it become acceptable to greentext on Twitter?
In all seriousness, why did they buy them then? Was it literally as petty as keeping Sony from getting them?
Yes.
Basically.
>WOT IF WE BOUGHT ALL THE VIDEOGAMES THEN WE OWN VIDEOGAMES
Never was about that.
then why did they buy them? they're not even making exclusives, they're all multiplat
$$$
probably so they can exploit the IPs in other forms of media - I'm sure now that Todd has gotten his grubby little hands into television he's itching to make an Elder Scrolls TV series, I'm sure we'll see a Dishonored series/movie sometime in the future, Wolfenstein, etc
The only reason, I don’t see why so many people on Ganker were happy with them getting their hands on any company. I did see wowgays going on about how they would put wow on gamepass but that wouldn’t save wow
Many people on Ganker are fricking morons and think acquisitions of a huge company = good for everyone, and totally and unashamedly ignore any proof otherwise including historical behavior of the acquiring company. Think of Blizzard threads and people that openly ignore the company has output liquid shit since being acquired by Activision, or Rare since Microsoft bought it.
Yea they just got them for candy crush, cod and diablo, they don’t give a shit about Warcraft other than to push out some horrible mobile game
Activision did want WoW at the time (they acquired King later, they were AB before they were ABK) but I think it's pretty clear they didn't want WoW as anything but a money printer. Clearly it wasn't enough to keep AB from being stuffed full of ex-government staff and conservative think tankers who want free money after leaving politics
>I did see wowgays going on about how they would put wow on gamepass but that wouldn’t save wow
i don't think anything can save that dumpster fire, it's crawled along and had to rehire chris "Chris metzen" metzen to lay claim to any kind of return, and is culturally irrelevant now
>In all seriousness, why did they buy them then? Was it literally as petty as keeping Sony from getting them?
Yes, though I'd call it self-preservation more than pettiness. Buying exclusivity amounts to buying all the sales lost from not selling on other platforms. The more market share you have, the less lost sales there are and the cheaper it is to buy exclusivity moving forward. This creates a snowball effect.
Xbox bought all those devs to ensure they always have a library and Sony can't just buy them off the market.
Virtually all of the companies MS bought out were in dire financial straits and needed some money to keep going lest they dissolved. Which aligned perfectly with the Xbox brand in dire need of developers accounting for making games for the system (not exclusively but Sony has been trying to corner out Xbox itself in that regard)
>were in dire financial straits
Activision is different in that sense. We don't know how they're going to handle a company like that. CoD and King are still enormous and as much as I hate Blizzard in 202X, I'm pretty sure most of their games are doing pretty well.
CoD, despite still being gargantuan, is not the behemoth it once was. Blizzard is just radioactive. Activision heads saw the writing on the wall and just wanted to cash out so they decided to open up for sale and chose Microsoft to buy them.
people don't seem to understand that these companies make free money to MS. the cash that they used to buy those was "standing still" in the sense that it wasn't being used to make them more money. in the end they are now taking 79% of every cod game and MTX on playstation and steam and making bank with candy crush
>why did they buy them then?
they wanted all of their IP's to turn them into mobile game slop.
which as we all know out earns non mobile games
diablo immortal rakes in a billion dollars a year.
the indian/asian market is massively dominated by mobile games and is 3x the size of the western market.
>converge xbox and pc
>win
it's that easy, tbh i'm glad sony is doing okay for now because who knows how long playstation will remain a viable product
Palworld will save Xbox with the bundle. Have faith. You figured it out, Xbox and PC, why didn't anyone think about this? To make Xbox into PC they will make online free to play too. Write this shit down, someone get phil's corporate email.
PC is not even their platform anymore.
It's Steam, Linux and Volvo
PC thrives because of Steam, M$ gets 0% out of Steam's sales.
They don't get Steam's sales (other than obviously their own games that're on there) but they make money off Windows and all the licenses related to everything sold for it.
Microsoft's recent financial disclosures reveal they make less from licensing Windows to home users now than Valve makes from the Steam Deck.
Their legacy business is a tiny fraction of their income. It matters to them about as much as IBM's Personal Computer division did before they dropped it.
They basically have massively inflated stock due to data centre subsidies.
>https://www.economicliberties.us/our-work/subsidy-toolkit-pt3/
>make games clearly designed 100% around profit
>nickel and dime the player at every opportunity after they already bought the game at full price
>treat your $80 games like a free-to-play phone game
>wonder why players get tired of it
>spend millions and millions on making games
>the majority of the budget goes to marketing, legal shit, HR, executive payments, etc
>a small fraction goes to the actual game development
>treat game development companies like any other tech company instead of like video game companies
>outsource everything, hire shitloads of people who don't care about video games
it's a real mystery why AAA gaming is dying
I bought a Switch because Mario Kart and Splatoon looked fun. Why would I buy an Xbox?
>I bought a Switch because Mario Kart and Splatoon looked fun
Should have bought a PC
I have one but my GPU is a GTX950 because there's honestly nowhere near enough fun looking new games to warrant an upgrade. $1000 to play 4 new games that my current PC can't play is a huge fricking waste of money. I've been enjoying EVE and Factorio when I'm on the PC.
You can play ever Nintendo game on PC at 4k 60fps
Should have bought a GPU
Why would I want to do that? If I hadn't already made it clear, I'm not a homosexual who equates pixels to fun.
Should have bought a Steam Deck, tendie
Can SteamDeck run Alan Wake 2 or Dragon's Dogma 2? Just asking, not that anon.
No, don't bother. If an anon says they can, they have limited the Resolution to 480p at low settings. I have an OLED variant and it's only good for emulation+indie games and World of warcraft.
>Dragon's Dogma
Yea
>Alan Woke
Dunno who cares
>Should have bought a PC so you can emulate single player only on fricking Mario Kart and Splatoon
Xbox was a US government project to deindustrialize Japan, they're fazing it out because the coup on Sony to bring PS to the US succeeded.
What if sony pulls playstation back to nippong?
Japs don't care about PS5, so unless a miracle happens, it won't ever happen, besides that higher market value in the USA by default.
They can't. The brand is dead in Japan and they fired everyone.
your medication is calling
it's whispering "take me"
doesn't help to hire people who don't know how to make games. Honestly the chances are high the task to make bad games maybe even came from microsoft. So getting fired is actually a good thing if you are a good game dev. Because you either want to make good games, or you just want money and don't care about good quality. So I don't care about that type of gamedev. Honestly everything is going good. This is the way it should be as I see it
>B-BUT WE GOT GAMEPASS
Xbox owners are hilarious
The Nintendo Switch has outsold the combined sales figures of Xbox One, Xbox Series, and Xbox original consoles.
The Playstation 5 has outsold the combined sales figures of Xbox Series and Xbox original consoles.
The SteamDeck has outsold the combined sales figures of portable Xbox handhelds.
>greentexting outside the chan
why are tourists like this?
XBOX has done a terrible job with its first party titles (see Halo, Forza Motorsport, pretty much every other franchise they've had) so it's no surprise.
First rule of /b/ is a thing of the past. Now every twitter and facebook gen zer knows about Ganker and comes here, severely bringing down post quality.
he was an oldgay voiceover guy. he turned his back on Ganker after a while though
outside the chan
>why are tourists like this?
they bought the ip's not the employees, who were mostly purple haired transexuals anyway
He's like the stupid villain who ends up doing good things
Well done Phil.
>ruined Xbox 1st Party Studios
>competition has outsold every Xbox console since he took over
Their vision is perfectly realized actually. Gamepass users is an all time high and Xbox revenue was up from last year. The layoffs are a classic example of greediness that has nothing to do with their state
The core issue with the current video game industry is that they stopped making games for gamers and started making projects for investors. For the people that don't give a single flying frick about video games. They just kept buying the famous companies aimlessly as they are fricking oil rigs that can produce the same quality product constantly. The company they've bought had overblown stuff and decaying quality of the games. Take a look at fricking Blizzard, for example.
I do hate sony, but i will legitimately jump up and down for joy is Microsoft just leaves the console industry for good. Microsoft ruins everything it touches.
The only people who want japs to care about snoy again are snoys, real japkino lovers have had a switch and 3DS for years. Snoy doesnt about Japan anymore and Japan doesn’t care about Snoy, enjoy your racially diverse dyke walking sims. Xbox might as well not even exist lmao. Microsoft is a juggernaut but Xbox has never been less prevalent in the muttmerican mindshare than it is today. And that’s the only market that matters for Xbox.
The Xbox is irrelevant his job is now to consolidate the video game industry and collect as many IPs as possible, destroying the entire console market is his stretch goal.
Then he’ll be “fired” as Xbox goes under and paid millions on exit
>the one year that everyone else is fricking up hard, layoffs and crashes everywhere, Nintendo decides to have their empty year pre-new console
Was there some sort of agreement from everyone to just stop making vidya in 2024?
I'm fine with Xkek dying. They've been living on borrowed time for more than a decade.
>the most "exciting" thing to happen to xbox in years is a 10 year old MMO launching on the console
It's pretty clear MS want's to be in the business of service and platforms and not making games, and that's fine. If Game Pass can be an alternative to buying certain things on Steam, great, but rip off the fricking bandaid and realign yourselves towards that faster if that's the plan instead of releasing garbage games.
Microsoft doesn't buy companies to do good things with them. They buy companies to prevent anyone else from doing good things with them on other platforms.
He meant the growth of the industry as a whole. As in new markets, new platforms, brand new people converted into gamers and so on
How is Hellblade 2 still not out if it's a small game like the first once? Makes no fricking sense. They must have started over at least twice
they need to make sure its not going to run above 30FPS on any existing machines first
We are already feeling the consequences with these never ending droughts. Gankerermins were happy that this was gonna hurt Snoy but instead is hurting everyone. Activision-Blizzard and Zenimax used to release dozens of games per year but now? MS bought them and now they make no games. Like everyone predicted when the OG Xbox first came to the scene, MS are gonna gaming. Everyone knew it was gonna a happen at sone point and MS was gonna fricked everything up for everyone.
The tweeter in the OP pic is moronic, and so are you if you think that's how layoffs work. It's really:
>buys a bunch of companies
>lets them operate mostly as normal. Give the current employees slick new benefit packages and access to more stable funding
>recover initial investment from buy-out
>examine financials, compare to other business units
>shut down any business units that are unprofitable, AND any units that are profitable but still less profitable than other units that could be scaled up by shutting down the less profitable unit
When your team is part of a giant corporation, it isn't enough to make money. You have to be making more money than other teams, or you will eventually be pruned. This usually looks like moving engineers and other actually-productive staff to the more profitable business unit, and then laying off the employees that become extraneous (usually salespeople, mid-level managers, and product designers).
Microsoft doesn't just do this with video games. They are very active in all aspects of computing, like cloud infrastructure, code management, and business software like Office. They love buying shit up and then shutting it down because in the worst case scenario, they at least shut down a competitor. If the government ever goes after them for this stuff (which they usually don't), MS gets a small fine as a slap on the wrist.
you talk like a gay marketer
I'm an engineer that has spent too much time listening to gay marketers in meetings.
>When your team is part of a giant corporation, it isn't enough to make money. You have to be making more money than other teams, or you will eventually be pruned.
Is that why EA did all those layoffs at Respawn despite them turning out hit after hit? Success isn't enough, it needs to be on Madden/Soccer levels of easy money to be kept intact?
Probably, yes. EA and any other companies that size do this same thing pretty regularly.
Did you know? A bunch of irrelevant bullshit over the years has been placed under the "Xbox" banner to artificially prop up its profitability and make it appear profitable when it has never been in its entire history!
>HALO
>finite
Appropriate
Halo: Finito
was he the moron at MS that said no thanks to Mihoyo when they came to them with Genshin?
PSA for Ganker, the word Snoy is now longer applicable.
>https://nichegamer.com/microsoft-cautions-developers-to-avoid-curvy-female-characters/
It’s still applicable snoyBlack person, snoy is still a troony California dump catering to Black folk beaners and trannies, you aren’t changing things. Now and forever Snoy.
>snoy is still a troony California dump catering to Black folk beaners and trannies
Always darkest before dawn since we see all their wokeoid devs are getting put on hiatus, projects cancelled, hit with layoffs, studios closed, etc.
Sony shitcanned entire Playstation VR departments and hit their California deadweight staff too. Good riddance, if only they could close bungie while they're at it. Would kill to get a new 15 hour Sly Cooper with a 50 million budget.
>Would kill to get a new 15 hour Sly Cooper with a 50 million budget
Ghost of Tsushima only cost about 60 million so Sucker Punch is unscathed as far as I know.
I am so starved for Sly Cooper I might hook up my PS3 again for the HD collection I own.
Did they ever buy a studio that wasn't the shadow of its former self? Bc that's all Rare, Activision and Bethesda are lmao.
Bungie entered its absolute prime almost entirely because of Microsoft buying them. They got bought while Halo CE was still in development, and then went on to create Halo 2 and 3 to basically create and dominate the console online gaming sphere. The creation of 343 years later was where things soured.
>Bungie entered its absolute prime almost entirely because of Microsoft buying them.
WTF? Bungie had to seriously downgrade and dumb-down Halo for the Xbox, and Microsoft made them drop all of their other better IP.
It was a farce of a decision made only because Bungie had shown Halo at MacWorld and Microsoft wanted to take that away.
Sure, you make a fair point. They were making more money and really put themselves on the map with Halo going to Xbox, whereas they were in the more niche Mac/PC sphere prior to that, which is more what I meant by "prime". I don't disagree with the idea that Microsoft eventually ran them into the ground and ruined what they once were, but they were definitely not a "shell" of themselves when they were first acquired. It was only afterwards, and it was fairly gradual compared to a studio like Rare that was essentially defunct and just purchased to get their IPs for cheap (probably just to keep Nintendo from getting it).
>Microsoft spends 100bil on awful studios
>Greedily sits on a mountain of old IPs, refusing to use any of them
>does nothing but bleed money while also spending
>doesn't make games
Everyone else in this thread also knows how moronic Xbox is but frick me man they're bad. They're pigs rolling in their own shit, confused why the masses aren't joining in.
Wow who knew that selling games would make you money. The game pass subscription model has yet to be profitable after how many years now?
Google Stadia thought the same thing. Gaikai and OnLive on the PC went down too. Subscription models are silly like Web3.0 marketers and NFT salesmen. GamePass is total shit.
There's an audience for GamePass but they're poor people. Creating an ecosystem of poor people isn't what you want if you want to make money, because everyone with money has gone on to play on PC instead which is why you have people paying $70 for Starfield on Steam instead of renting it for $10.
I think as a concept it'd have been a fine way to get kids into the ecosystem so they grow up to be Xbots but the rise of streaming has made it so kids don't want consoles, they want PCs so the day 1 PC gambit backfired in an astounding manner. That was Microsoft's biggest mistake for sure as far as Xbox goes. Anything else could have been salvaged like how the Switch is doing fantastic after the Wii U crashed and burned.
Microsoft's problem is that they get as much from the sale of a prebuilt high-end Windows Gaming PC as they do from the sale of a bargain basement laptop. On top of that, a not insignificant number of PC Gamers build their own systems and do not pay for Windows licenses. They simply have no way to access the high-end of the market, and that is a self-inflicted wound for Microsoft who made PC OSes a commodity nobody could sell to end users.
At the low-end that Chinese net cafe with Windows 10 machines where users log into Steam to play free games like DOTA2 likely generates Valve more revenue than Microsoft got out of the system.
GamePass is a reasonable way for Microsoft to try to tap into that market, and if they stay in that market an ARM Xbox / Netcafe system for GamePass is not unlikely.
The question for Microsoft upper management is why even bother? It doesn't act as advertising for them, it doesn't add value to the brand, NT can't keep up with the competition, and win32 support is a drain on their resources. They're not good in the home market. Nobody sees Microsoft products as 'premium', they're a dork trying to be cool by copying the cool kids at Apple. Meanwhile the dorks with money who know they are dorks are playing D&D games on GNU/Linux handhelds.
>They simply have no way to access the high-end of the market
Your average PC gamer isnt even close to being the high-end market. Nvidia proved that.
NTA but the "high-end market" isn't worth entering. The games made today run like total shit even on the "high-end" PCs. Not to mention, they're obviously not worth fricking playing because they're garbage titles made with no passion. It is quite literally actually genuinely actual factual not worth upgrading your PC to the latest techslop just to get 10 more FPS (50FPS total) on your copy of forspoken or kys squad
You're confusing "high-end" as meaning high-end graphics only doable with the 4090, where as high-end i'm on about is the companies spending huge amounts of money on windows/office licenses. Your average pc gamer buying a windows license even at full price is a drop in the ocean for Microsoft. Same with nvidia and their new AI architecture. Sure they offer it out to the gaymer paypigs but these companies developing their own AI software are buying up 4090s in the thousands.
Yeah, that too. I'd even consider crypto miners "high-end" if it weren't for the fact they're using the hardware exclusively for their hobby horse gambling addictions. M$ could easily shift gears into hardware if it weren't for their previous failures (zune, windows phone, etc.) setting the precedent for failure. I don't blame sony for trying to do that shit too with their awful online-only tablet, but that idea was a stillbirth unlike Zune which COULD have cornered some niche market Apple wasn't hoovering up if Zune didn't suck total ass.
>But, Nvidia and AMD to a lesser extent do at least actually have a way to make money off of high-end PC builders, something Microsoft doesn't have.
I got my copy of W10 Pro from a friend who ripped it off an old work PC so I didn't even give M$ that drop in the ocean. I wonder what M$ could even do, make their own prebuilt shite like Apple? Maybe if they had started doing that 10 years ago instead of burning money and goodwill on "Kinect" we'd have a completely different non-stagnant M$ to deal with.
>make their own prebuilt shite like Apple?
Not complete pre-builts beyond maybe some reference systems. Microsoft would sell ARM boards or a set of surface mount chips to OEMs who wanted to sell Windows systems. So if a Windows OEM wanted to sell a high-end system, they would be required by the OEM contract to source a specific set of chips with Microsoft in the loop and getting a cut.
With Windows for x86 compatible systems no longer being available to home users at all, or with OEMs required to sell only a small percentage of those systems guaranteeing they would all be at the most expensive end of the spectrum.
You're not wrong. Nvidia makes the vast majority of their money in the PC market from OEM deals to sell bargain basement discrete chips. Where AMD and Intel's big plan to take over the Windows PC market is to make low-end discrete chips go away by selling gaming-capable integrated solutions.
But, Nvidia and AMD to a lesser extent do at least actually have a way to make money off of high-end PC builders, something Microsoft doesn't have.
>But, Nvidia and AMD to a lesser extent do at least actually have a way to make money off of high-end PC builders, something Microsoft doesn't have.
Thats the thing - Microsoft doesn't give a shit about that. They get enough data insights from windows users it doesnt matter and its an acceptable "loss". Windows activation scripts are freely available on github (which Microsoft owns) and havent been taken down in the years its been up.
Microsoft makes billions from set in stone annual subscriptions. Nvidia and AMD would kill for that. Not even mentioning the practically free money they get from Azure.
>Nvidia makes the vast majority of their money in the PC marke
not anymore. Nvidia themselves said they became a company serving the AI market rather than the games one. this is why a lot of people are afraid that they'll leave this market to focus solely on AI
Way to ignore the context of the post.
>Nvidia makes the vast majority of their money in the PC market from OEM deals to sell bargain basement discrete chips.
Clearly referring to low end hardware as the majority of the money they make in the PC segment, not that the PC is the largest segment of their overall revenue.
The AI market is, as your own post demonstrates, not considered part of the PC market.
As for the fear Nvidia will leave the PC graphics market, that is a valid concern because the market is trending towards greater integration, and Nvidia cannot produce x86 or AMD64 compatible hardware.
It has yet to be seen how successful a potential Microsoft push for gaming on ARM would be, but Microsoft did apparently request a sample SOC from Nvidia.
>Creating an ecosystem of poor people isn't what you want if you want to make money
Poor people stay poor because they spend heaps of money on shit like fast food, designer clothes, iPhones, and subscription services. There's fortunes to be made by parting poor people from their money.
Phil's Spencer is all over the place. Let's see just THIS WEEK we've had
>Xbox putting its exclusives on Switch and PS5 is actually good for the brand
>Xbox NEEDS Generation Z more than ever
>Xbox would be nice to be on portable
>Xbox needs to do layoffs after 70 billion acquisition of Acti-Blizzard
What a snake. He knows the Xbox console brand is fully diminished today, the sales coming out of Europe, Asia, South and North America and 3rd parties openly discussing not making Xbox ports is something he knows about too. 3rd place console.
>trump opens the free corporate money tap
>companies either expand recklessly or else get out-expanded and die
>biden closes the free corporate money tap
>companies either cut themselves to the bone or else collapse under bloat they can't support anymore
if it was any other industry i'd be complaining but large video game companies and the people who work for them deserve constant misery so i hope it keeps happening
the future of good video games is 15-50 man teams making what would have been considered AAA games in the 360 era
that's basically every American company.
they're just boomers that hate gaming and they just buy everything so it dies
When did Playstation stop being for brown people?koky2
>starting an X post with greentext
>basic elementary understanding of the industry
>Pony nonsense
>X screenshot thread
Must be a day that ends in -day on Ganker
Xbox is in third place outsold by Playstation on average 10 to 1 and Switch 11 to 1.
>Announce a bunch of games back when the Xbone was a thing.
>Cancel all of them save for a handful
>Buy a bunch of studios to make exclusives
>Do the same to them.
I don't understand.
you know the rules.
is phil transitioning, he is starting to look like a middle aged woman
Do you guys think the Double Fine team was so happy they got bought out thinking they would have an actual production manager and not Mr. Shitface only for Phil to just sit on his ass and eventually fire them all
I dont even understand how those hipsters from Double Fine even stayed afloat so many years. They released nothing of note between the two Psychonauts games.
>games cost billions and take 10 years to make now
>WHAT WHY ISNT THIS SUSTAINABLE
>IM GONNA
>IM GONNA LAY OOOOOOOOOFF
On one hand it's true that Xbox in incapable of managing the creation of modern video games but it's also true that the vast majority of devs are not talented, or qualified enough, to work in the industry and deserve to be fired.
Yeah, but this is more like Microsoft doesnt know what to do with so many devs than a trimming the fat situation
>Microsoft doesnt know what to do with so many devs
In that they let the studios do what they want, which is their downfall. You cannot trust studios today to make a good game.
Based Phil killing Microsoft with no survivors
Microsoft Gaming Studios is made up of the hardware (Xbox) and software (publisher) team. The people at the publisher side have hated Xbox hardware and the CEO of Microsoft too, but Phil has been able to stave them off for a decade. Now he has no power and the people on the software side have managed to win over control. Microsoft Gaming Studios is the biggest 3rd party publisher this side of the planet and that's fine by the CEO of Microsoft. The Xbox hardware team have no future and that's blatantly obvious.
Phil spencer is an unironic homosexual that told devs to avoid curvy women he deserves the worst
Why the frick do you think they're pushing for ugly, inside and out?
Why do sharty rejects still post jaks
I just wish Id wasn't owned by them, they're one of the few companies making good games.
Infinite growth expectation is a cancerous mindset that kills everything infected with it.
Cool it with the anti-semitism
Why the frick is Chris greentexting outside of here?
because greentexting on twitter and posting a screenshot of it on Ganker gets more replies than greentexting on Ganker
Holy shit another thread of concentrated snoy cope, great job Phil!
Xbox hardware outsold by Playstation 4, 5, Nintendo Switch. Jesus.
>aaackbox still dead
who could have guessed? snoy has secured the poorgay gaming audience. it's over
how is phil not fired at this point
if this was done by EA or Ubisoft you can bet your ass their CEOs would be out on the streets in no time
Was PC porting all it was cracked up to be or just a last ditch attempt to save woke bloat from going in the red like the withdrawals of an addict?
I mean Sony's having layoffs and studio closures in spite of PC support and Microsoft resorted to putting their games on PS5, so what's wrong?
Well I guess these are rhetorical questions, most planform holder revenue comes from royalties so as long as you can insure a fairly consistent
level of quality without spending too much exclusives basically act like playable marketing for the brand. I will always agree with Tendies on this.
I think pc porting is just a band-aid at this point, the type of game sony and microsoft are making are too expensive and they have to sell way too many copies to break even, not to mention that a month after a game launch they already start to discount it, pc gamers tend also to be willing to wait for a sale, mostly during steam sales, if they don't correct course and try to bring the dev cost of games down they are fricked.
Mind you, this is their own fault, they created a fan base based on shiny graphics and now their consumers are only interested in that, they don't care if there is an actual game behind it, they just want it to look pretty. Everytime microsoft and mainly sony try to show something diferent but with low graphics you can see the comments being the sleeping guy and stuff like that, they want the pretty things and for that they will have to spend more, which mean they will have to sell more, and there isn't enough people buying it at the end.
Not to mention that there is also an increase of dev time, soon enough they will have to start to dev for the next gen if they want to have a game ready to go when it launches, while we are in the middle of this gen. With the way things are going when the ps6 launches they will have to be developing for the ps7 already.
Selling a few extra million copies on pc won't save them i think. But hey helldivers seem to be successful so thats a start which could go to the trash if their next 300 million game flops.
>they created a fan base based on shiny graphics
People really inconsistent on this as well, the Ganker consensus before AAA started to crash was
>"I want smaller games with worse graphics made buy less people"
>Gigachad.jpg
But now if you go into a Rise of the Rōnin thread for example and a main criticism is always
>"this game looks cool but the hecking graphics tho"
Why can't these fricking homosexuals stick to their guns? Are they just dopamine drones who can't stand losing out, even if it makes things better in the long run?
>But now if you go into a Rise of the Rōnin thread for example and a main criticism is always
Snoys made "Good graphics" their personality because Sony's games always stunk gameplay wise. Even something like Ghost Of Tsushima was just a bog standard Assassin's Creed Clone with a laughably simple Rock Paper Scissors mechanic. But they would not shut the frick up about graphics. Same with Boreizon Zero Yawn. That game absolutely fricking sucks gameplay wise but you're constantly being spammed webm's of the "Good graphics"
Once Ronin came along they are crying "How dare you criticise the graphics. Talk about the gameplay" even though they made Sony's whole thing "Good Graphics". They reap what they sow.
The only graphics discussions I remember around Ghost of Tsushima was PC gays zooming 800% on trees half a mile away and saying
>"HAHAHAHAHA!!! THIS LOD LOOKS BAD! ZERO OUT OF A MILLION SNOY SLOP!"
But it's fine for Onionspunk to have 2013 tier assets and character models because Nvidia had some pug ins that shade them accurately.
>Snoy seethe because of their graphics
>Deflecting to PC
>Can't refute the allegations the gameplay in Sony games sucks
Every time
>Can't refute the allegations the gameplay in Sony games sucks
Yet if they get PC ports those games suddenly become "hidden gems" that PC homos "discover".
Why would anyone debate midwits with no consistency? On top of that this isn't some formal setting, it just makes you seem autistic.
>Yet if they get PC ports those games suddenly become "hidden gems" that PC homos "discover".
No one's said that. Most of the response to the likes of Spider-Man and The Last Of Us on PC has been "Actually those are pretty mediocre games barely worth a pirate".
Cope, seethe, mald. Your troonycession has been accepted.
>Most of the response to the likes of Spider-Man and The Last Of Us on PC has been "Actually those are pretty mediocre games barely worth a pirate"
Reminder that you begged for those games, anon. I'm happy if Sony pivots away from that stuff and you got mad at me pointing out your double-think.
>helldivers 2
the stick figure is right about this one so I'm not sure what the image is supposed to convey
The funny thing about this pic and
is that Death Stranding used Horizon Zero Dawn's engine
so that's why I keep seeing holograms of that ugly b***h when I pull up to the craftsman's place.
When it comes to market, shiny graphics are proven to be unnecessary. On the internet however, every game with mid graphics gets shit on cuz I guess people feel the need to shitpost no matter what
>that image
It's not that Nintendo is thriving, it's that Snoy and M$ are doing everything they possibly can to actively sabotage their market shares.
It was always out of necessity, Xbox games were already failing when they started porting
ESG/DEI is crashing the AAAGaming Industry.
What’s really funny is they are rushing to try and gain control of Japanese games to kill them too, it’s some truly insane desperation to protect the message at all costs
Tech is better than ever before, why the frick are there less games? Redfall looks like shit. plays like shit, runs like shit.
Obligatory posting.
>kill the only western console
>kill a bunch of western devs
Phil is doing the lord's work
This is what they get for ruining Halo
Hopefully Microsoft are moronic enough to kill Blizzard and Activision with autistic decision making, it seems unrealistic but people didn't think that would happen with all their other in house IPs
to be honest (desu), I don't think Microsoft really gives a shit about Activision or Blizzard per se
what they really wanted from that buyout was the mobile game cash cow
Microsoft only cares about money. They’ll fill everything with ads to get a 5% profit, even if it makes their games get majority star reviews.
Is anyone here really an Xbox fan?
I own a series X and PS5 but I only use my Series X to play old games like Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, Sonic Unleashed, Black, Ninja Gaiden Black, Max Payne 3, etc
Sometimes for Goypass like No More Heroes 3, Dead Space, Bloodstained, etc
I got a Series X for HFR and Game Pass. I just finished Thronebreaker in it.
I own a Series S black. Besides the fricking controller and the awful UI, is a pretty good console, obviously it lacks a couple of Snoy exclusives I would love to play but has a ton of great old games for cheap to compensate.
use your xbox as an emulation machine. grab the native version of RetroArch and emulate everything
The real sexbox was the fiends we killed along the way
oh fug
I genuinely think Microsoft is just an arm of the US government and is trying to monopolize games purely so they can try and kill it as a hobby
BAMs on a way to become BUMs
They specifically hired someone from EA to learn how to profit from failure. Seems to be working well for M$
Surprised Phil is still in charge seeing as how many games came completely fricked up
Crackdown 3
State of Decay 2
entire Gears franchise
entire Halo franchise
Fable
it's like everything they touch goes to shit
>Crackdown 3
There was literally nothing wrong with that game. It played like Crackdown 1 with more boss fights and variety. The press gets angry with any game that tries to be an actual video game instead of "Cinematic" slop that it's almost comical they projected all their "How dare this be a video game" rage on it.
They are firing all of the worthless diversity hires. The industry is in a terrible place for a reason.
Good riddance.
>real people
Weren't most of the people that got fired trannies?
That's what happens when companies merge the redundant staff of the bought company gets fired.
>Microsoft employs 200,000+ people
>not including all the recent purchases like Activision
>fires less than 1% of the workforce in a downturn that the entire industry is facing
>people lose their fricking minds
Wheat from chaff.
This is a good thing.
Get rid of the worthless element and focus on what's good.
1900 potential people to do something worthwhile for society
hey at least starfield was a hit
Name ONE employee that got unjustly fired.
One.
Just one.. . . .
You can't. Such a person doesn't exist.
i'm so fricking sick of this guys bloated ugly mug
they need to clean fricking house
But how could this happen?
Those companies and teams were so diverse!
Their content was perfectly focus tested!
Every box was checked!
This should have been impossible!
for real though, why don't they put out any games with all this they are acquiring? do they just have a bunch of secret stuff in development and are just slow?
One of Microsofts biggest pros is also their biggest con. They're very hands off while giving these teams loads of money. So the studios are in concept stages for years. Halo Infinite was going to be a hero shooter btw.
>Halo Infinite was going to be a hero shooter
didn't that company have all kinds of ideas for Halo including one that was extremely similar to Helldivers 2? if they're so hands off, why did all those ideas die?
>if they're so hands off, why did all those ideas die?
Maybe they should've focused on making a good mainline Halo game first. Concepts are good but they cant even nail the mainline games, the spin-offs would've probably been shit.
I imagine they wanted Infinite to be a games platform like how Fortnite has a bunch of shit in it.
>Every company Microsoft becomes a shell of its former self and/or dies
Who do (you) want Microsoft to kneecap next?
I would venture to say if you showed up to any of these game offices irl the buildings would likely be closed and the lights off
It will never stop being funny that morons actually fell for his fake "how do you do fellow gamers" persona
And this was INCREDIBLY FRICKING PREDICTABLE yet I saw actual morons on here cheering on Microsoft's acquisitions.
I'd like to believe some of you would learn a lesson from this but we don't live in that world anymore. We live in a world of "alternate facts" where you never have to acknowledge fault. No personal growth, just bury your head deeper and deeper into the sand.
>this thread
Gee I wonder why game developers don't like you? Such a mystery!
Are we supposed to want them to like us? We're the wrong color/sexuality/gender/ideology, remember? They'll never like us for this very reason.
>Some random game dev who has never been part of a good game doesnt like anons on the internet
Oh no
It doesn't matter if they like their customers.
Make product and either people buy it or they don't.
It doesn’t even make sense, they spend literal billions and brag about it on halo infinte and it didn’t even have a battle royal mode. Which might have still failed but least it would have some appeal to modern shooter gays. Like i been over battle royales since like season 2 of apex legends, but how can you justify not having one in current year for your big multiplayer shooting homosexual shit? It genuinely boggles the mind
That’s just PR speak, Microsoft wants long term money from publishing and wanted to fire people to maximize profits. Phil is the community punching bag while Microsoft slowly pivots to being a digital gaming provider
They’re like 2 decades late to that party. steam is not going away until gabe passes and some moron gets put into charge. Most homies have 100s-1000s of games on that platform at this point from years and years of sales, nobody is swapping to xbox gamepass outside of abusing it for a month to play like the 1-2 games exclusive to it not on steam
More like the useless diversity hires and HR women getting fired. Based Phil cutting the excess fat.
good
frick devs
How did the layoffs affect Obsidian?
Pls be truthful, I have a boner riding on this.
imagine firing 2000 people while also having screen time diversity quotas for your games
Microsoft is fixing to leave the gaming industry but they are also going to crash the plane with no survivors.
For the price of what they paid for Activision, they could have made hundreds of games themselves. This goes beyond incompetence and straight into moronation. And it seems they are doubling down on their moronation with recently telling their studios to stop making females characters look "curvy".
>diversity hires and racist feminazis getting fired
>companies hemorrhaging hundreds of billions of dollars
we're winning bros but its going to be years yet before gaming is healed. ACCELERATE
xbox is like a super rich moronic kid who can get away with anything thanks to his billionaire parents
Remember, microsoft did xbox for the sole purpose to stop sony from taking over the pc desktop function from windows. (play 2 was already a multimedia system cuz of dvd, play3 had a announced linux support)
Now the enemy are smartphones, so xbox became a 100% useless product.
This goofy looking gopher motherfricker destroyed Microsoft gaming forever and it sucks because they were a good counter balance to Sony. The original Xbox and the Xbox 360 were a tremendous success and added a lot of great video games into the annals of video game history and then when MS reveals the Xbox One this motherfricker openly brags about how they are going to use the Xbox to spy on you, they aren't going to allow you to resell the physical copies of games which you bought because frick you, and you're going to pay an extra $100 for the Xbox connect whether you want it or not, and you're going to like it (the part where you give us your money). It was the single worst presentation of a new product ever made and it destroyed MS's reputation forever. They never recovered from this moment. They were always playing catch-up with Sony and slowly dying and I honestly don't even know if we are going to hear about Microsoft in the gaming world at all within the next 5-10 years.
The Xbox One (and really the Kinect before that) were massive failures from which Xbox never recovered, but the total collapse of their first-party game development around the same time also contributed to the death of the brand. What are the best Xbox exclusives since Halo Reach? What's the closest thing Xbox has had to a must-play title? It might be Starfield, which is telling
Yes they also gave up on producing exclusive titles and focused on bullshit features no one asked for like the kinect. Imagine the millions of dollars dumped into creating the kinect or researching crap like "look! our console has voice recognition! Ain't that neat!" like b***h, where the fricking games at? Don't tell me you've spend millions on all this worthless crap. I want fricking games. All they had were bells and whistles.
>SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS
>TV TV
>SPORTS
>TV
Man I remember it like it was yesterday
>Xbox go home
People were saying that Microsoft is about to kill Sony just few months ago. What happened?
Every other news about Xbox just seem like it's the one getting killed after the acquisition.
The same thing that happened to Sega Dreamcast is happening to Xbox Series consoles in real time as the Xbox console brand is fully gone. Brand is destroyed.
This was expected. I kept telling morons here that stuff like cod and big titles aren't gonna go exclusive because that literally cuts cod value and revenue in half but they thought Microsoft just doesn't Care about Profits. It was clear since the beginning that the Activision's acquisition is going to Force them into a 3rd party position because Xbox gamers already don't buy games and just wait for gamepass release and pc users alone aren't enough to cover the costs so PlayStation is necessary. Just look at how happy the devs were that their Games were going to PlayStation. Sea of thieves Twitter account was attacked by Xbox fans because they shilled PlayStation in their bio and put location as PS5
It's the inverse of the Dreamcast. Sega was broke because of the Saturn and needed DC to sell way beyond reasonable numbers to unfrick their finances. Sega's brand was still intact after the Dreamcast was buried but they would destroy their brand after going third party. Microsoft have infinite money but they've destroyed their brand by a combination of abandoning beloved IPs and studios and/or giving beloved IPs to studios that run them into ground. Also Microjeet meddling in an effort to turn the console into a device that records all your media consumption habits and heavily incentivizes certain services has made it a chore for xbros to put up with their shit.
Reads like another timeline where making money still mattered
>meddling in an effort to turn the console into a device that records all your media consumption habits and heavily incentivizes certain services has made it a chore for xbros to put up with their shit
What are you talking about?
They removed disc drives to push gamepass. Do I really need to go into Microsoft's history using the xbox brand to spy on its owners?
Those people were moronic, Xbox has been dying for many years
xbox is made for poor people who don't have a gaming pc, and just get grab shit off gamepass - it's a fricking poverty console.
just cut the redundant division, and focus on releasing shit for windows. why continue to sink money into competing with yourself?
xbox as a brand is a fricking joke now
Au contrare, I got mine because it shares game purchases with my PC. What reason do I have to get a ps5?
none, because the ps5 has no games. both blow ass, as far as i'm concerned
Yeah but the PS5 is probably better than your PC.
ok
It isn't and that's not the point.
Stop pushing the woke agenda and just make fun games.
It isn't rocket science.
He looks like Greata in the thumbnail
How is that "backfiring"? You don't know what the plan was (to destroy video games).
>fires all people
If only.
They've been doing this since they entered the gaming scene when the bought Rare.
I don't understand why they do it, makes zero sense.
>DEI hires getting fired
oh no the humanity
No we have to be against the current thing I like DEI now