>Minotaur, Greek Minotauros (“Minos's Bull”), in Greek mythology, a fabulous monster of Crete that had the body of a man and the head of a bull. It was the offspring of Pasiphae, the wife of Minos, and a snow-white bull sent to Minos by the god Poseidon for sacrifice.
>Minos believed that the god would accept a substitute sacrifice. To punish Minos, Poseidon made Minos's wife Pasiphaë fall in love with the bull. Pasiphae had the craftsman Daedalus fashion a hollow wooden cow, which she climbed into to mate with the bull. She then bore Asterius, the Minotaur.
Why are there no settings where monsters come from people mating with animals? Why are minotaurs in fantasy completely divorced from the Greek myth?
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Because morons screech "coomer" when anything that has to do with mating is involved.
You find a book that reads:
> PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT.
Don't forget about the opposite - absolute degenerates that reach to jerk off as soon as they hear or read the word "mating".
Those morons are easy to ignore.
There is no excuse for not making a game how you want to make it.
Because I try to separate my fap time from my play time
>mating is mentioned to any capacity
>I MUST FAP. MATING EXISTS SO I MUST FAP.
Half-x is a pretty common modifier, template or spice thrown on something in tabletop stuff. Half dragons, half elves, half Vulcans.
These are usually treated as races accepted by society and playable.
OP asked about monsters.
no.
Unless you are going atistoc strict rules as writen dnd 5e brain. The idea of half-x more generally is more prone to the exotic and monsterous. half man half fly, half demon half man, half beast half man.
Yes.
"Usually" is a term made in reference to a common occurrence, and D&D is the most common game, so yeah, what I said is usually the case.
D&D sucks, but you can't deny that most morons will abide by its standards.
>he doesn't know
Doesn't know what?
on one hand. Magic realm as all frick
On the other, that actually makes sense for lamashtu.
Create a new race of monster-people.
>Lamashtu follower
It's funny how one word instantly tells you a character is into some depraved shit.
baby making is wholesome, there's nothing depraved about it
>Why are there no settings where monsters come from people mating with animals? Why are minotaurs in fantasy completely divorced from the Greek myth?
they are not, the first minotaur came from this curse and then this monster race is born.
Exalted.
>a snow-white bull sent to Minos by the god Poseidon for sacrifice.
>Minos believed that the god would accept a substitute sacrifice.
You're leaving out an important part here.
Minos himself fell in love with the white bull without any help from Poseidon. Other bulls had passed beneath his watch on the way to the altar but this specific bull was so amazingly beautiful that he was compelled to risk a god's wrath in order to be able to look at this beautiful bull whenever he wanted to (Minos was aware that what he was doing would be punished if discovered; he tried to pass off the lesser sacrifice as the bull itself).
That's the real reason for the creation of the Minotaur. It wasn't just a god cursing a mortal for making him angry. Poseidon was intentionally cucking Minos as punishment for Minos spiritually cucking Poseidon, and the result was Minos had to deal with his wife's son.
But why did Poseidon want such a magnificent creature to die? He was asking Minos to kill what had become a beloved pet.
Because he was a Greek god and that pretty much guarantees being a shithead and Poseidon was the second biggest shithead of them all after Zeus.
>Poseidon was the second biggest shithead of them all after Zeus
Second biggest shithead would be Ares or possibly Hera.
Poseidon blessed Minos' kingdom. In exchange p, the bull was payment.
>second
Nah, Poseidon pretty solidly takes first place of dickbags, Zeus is at least a fundamentally positive force even if he does go around seducing other men's wife. Poseidon is like the sea, you usually appease him rather than seek his blessing. And where Zeus' kids are great heroes, Poseidon's kids are all monsters.
Ares is disliked mostly because of overt focus on Athenian conceptions and a lot of foundational Greek myth scholarship occurring just after WW2, when everybody was extremely anti-war. In a number of the actual myth cycles Ares is a remarkably positive force, a god of justice and vengeance and in one hymn the "golden armed defender of Olympus", the guy guarding the gates (akin to Heimdall of Norse myth).
>Poseidon want
That is it man he was a taker of people and their things.
Look up how Medusa was made to see how frick up he was.
>The sea was a taker of men and cities in that time so the god of it must be a dick
Because one particular subculture fricked everything up, so help you God if you ever do anything like the OP and make it go public.
Unless, of course, you are a part of the subculture in question and they are your target auditory. But even they won't do it often, because that automatically proves all the critique that is aimed at them.
The main issue with your example is that it comes from mythology; the purpose of those tales, songs, poems, etc. is to convey a cautionary tale or to celebrate heroism, to provoke thought on some sort of philosophy or to ponder a kind of hypothetical, or to portray an ideal.
Games are not literature.
The purpose of an adventure game is for the characters to explore a world, delve into its mysteries, discover its problems and threats, and to gain the power to solve said problems and remove/mitigate said threats; you don't need to know that this God punished a person who thought a beast of burden was more important than his pietous duty by making his wife frick said beast and producing a monster, all you need to know is how to either kill or avoid said monster.
That said, the wonderful thing about this hobby is that you can participate in your own games using literally whatever you want, so you don't need to ask "Y nO sEtTaNs W/ tHiS !?" or other inane questions; you can just do them for your own game.
Instead of crying, solve your problem. This is the easiest medium to do whatever you want, because the concepts and level of crunch are exclusively controlled by you, your imagination, what you're willing to track, and what you're willing to write down.
Use your own agency instead of whining about what other people or what official content does or does not produce on a silver platter.
> Why are there no settings where monsters come from people mating with animals?
No setting? Dude. Exalted is full of this shit. Across three editions, there is a splat specifically for this.
Because this woman was specifically cursed by a God
Iwho makes the best minotaur minis?
It's not "complete". 4e in particular did a good job of tying them into the idea of mazes and insanity (where navigating a maze was a metaphor for trying to stay sane). Pathfinder is similar but a bit simpler and a bit more unambiguously evil. IIRC, D&D minotaurs have always been immune to mazes.
People already mentioned Pathfinder and Exalted, I recall some DnD splat having an absolutely moronic blink dog X halfling crossbreed, and I'm sure there are many other examples.
Admit it, OP, you only made this thread to expand your collection of beefy minotaur pics.
None of the settings mentioned actually have humans mating with animals as the central origin point of monsters. It's all cherrypicking.
>You can breed with anything in Exalted (so TECHNICALLY humans can mate with animals)
>There's a mask in Pathfinder that let's you do this if you worship a certain god
With regards to 4e minotaurs being obsessed with mazes, this is a surface-level connection to the Greek myth. The minotaur in the original was trapped in the maze, hidden from the eyes of the world. A modern analogy would be something like an abusive family keeping their deformed child locked in the attic (it's also sort of a horror trope). Does the child WANT to be locked in the attic?
>pic
Interesting how Japanese coomers can't live with female monsters existing, even if only in the background out of the action ala old school D&D's treatment of orcs.
>The minotaur in the original was trapped in the maze, hidden from the eyes of the world. A modern analogy would be something like an abusive family keeping their deformed child locked in the attic (it's also sort of a horror trope).
Yea, no shit, the maze represents the world that the "minotaur" grows up in, and it's the kind of place that no one wants to be. That's the point. You're trying to make it sound like bulls-fricking-women is the only part that matters and everything else is "surface-level".
4e minotaurs CHOOSE to be in maze-like structures. The Greek myth minotaur didn't have a choice.
>Interesting how Japanese coomers can't live with female monsters existing, even if only in the background out of the action ala old school D&D's treatment of orcs.
Since when did japs have issues with monster girls? In this case it's just that it makes it hotter to know that Piro is getting bred (not actually lore friendly) ((would the offspring be a minotaur, half-minotaur, half-elf or elf?))
>Since when did japs have issues with monster girls?
Monster girl -//- female monster, read homie read.
>Interesting how Japanese coomers can't live with female monsters existing, even if only in the background out of the action ala old school D&D's treatment of orcs.
Old school D&D also said there were no female Minotaurs outside of Krynn.
So what's the QRD on old school D&D minotaurs?
mazes are not a surface level condition, they're serendipitous
Because for normal people zoophilia is disgusting.
>cucked by a literal bull
A-at l-least he was white
Minos may have had a swarthy complexion actually
>swarthy complexion
DEVTSCHE STIERE
I think he meant the bull was white
I made a setting where centaurs are all male and kidnap amazons to reproduce. It's not even a big part of the setting, but it's gotten some hate on /tg/ before.
Post setting details.
pretty generic fantasy setting. There's a medievilsih empire that dominates most of the continent. Humans are the most numerous citizens of the empire, but it's ruled over by elves because they are long-lived and the most moagically inclined by a lot. Dwarves mine and forge in their mountain cities, but keep to themselves mostly and dwarven equipment is very valuable and highly sought after by the wealthy and powerful. Amazons live as refugees in the emoire haiving been driven out of their homeland by the beastmen tribes which cause a lot of trouble on the empire's fringes. Amazons mostly work as treasure hunters and monster slayers. Gnolls lost their homeland to a dragon and travel around like gypsies trading, fighting as mercenaries, and getting involved in criminal activity. Lizardfolk are part of the empire but because of their inhospitable land, their cities in the south have a lot of autonomy. Orcs are suppsoed to be part of the empire, but the rebel frequently because the empire only allows the worship of 4 Gods and won't allow the worship of a fifth that they consider evil. Orcs are generally seen as dumb and violent and are disliked by most.
The empire is ruled by an elven Empress, the Council of Priestesses, and the Sorceresses School, who don't always get along. The biggest cities are on the western coast which is dotted with a couple small mountain peaks, while the lizardfolk cities are along the southern coast. the center of the continent is dry plains that are always threatened by beastmen, but there are some cities along a river that flows through it. The northern forests are dotted with orc towns that get burned down and rebuilt on a regular basis either by internal orc conflict or by the empire. In the east ais a range of large mountains where dragons make their lairs and little is known about.
>The empire is ruled by an elven Empress, the Council of Priestesses, and the Sorceresses School
So women rule everything, but their empire suffers from all-male beastmen/centaurs raiding them? This is coomer material through and through.
Magic and faith are the realm of women because they are more magically inclined than men and elves are the most magically inclined race, so elven women are the natural rulers of the empire.
Adding that men farm, mine, fish, engineer and build, and fight wars. Women run things and help with magic.
So only women have magic and men are slaves?
Why is it that fantasy setting almost always take place on the west coast of a landmass.
Narnia, middle earth, old school warhammer, faerun, all seem to have an ocean to the west of where all the action takes place.
Maybe it has something to do with coming from European culture, but idk.
It really depends on the thread. In one thread I got hated simply for posting a picture of a pokemon to illustrate some anatomical point. Some sperg immediately freaked out and promised me the eternal damnation of /vp/.
In the other thread I've mentioned that in my setting every mammal can mate with other mammal and the children will be the race of the mother, and bestiality is actually legal (and so is gender change, and since the gender change involves compelte dissolveing of the body down to the brain-in-a-jar state folowed by a cell-by-cell reconstruction with DNA manipulation, same sex relationships are outlawed completely).
Guess what, all I've got is a couple corny jokes along the lines of "is your setting Iraq" or something.
Pathfinder's Golarion has that kind of.
See Demon Mother's Mask.
If you want to know about a monster that came from someone fricking an animal you can make your own homebrew by looking into a mirror.
It's weird, isn't it? There's always been an aversion towards zoophilia in society. It's so easy to tie that into monsters being created when humans cross the line they're not supposed to cross. You can even tie in werewolves - they could literally be people with a little wolfman blood. On top of that, certain real cultures such as Arabs have a strong distaste for eg. pigs and dogs. Perhaps in this setting animal husbandry is taboo. Again, in certain cultures, butchers and skinners belonged to an ostracized class of people. This shit literally writes itself.
Too adult for official companies to be comfortable with using.
Myself, my setting basically has knock-off Shub-Niggurath as the OG fertility goddess and patron of all fleshcrafters, and all the different bestial races basically started with her deciding it'd be funny to make humans and animals frick and have kids.
>Why are there no settings where monsters come from people mating with animals?
It's not fantasy
What did he mean by this? /x/ poster caught in the wild?
/pol/, I brought stats if you like
Greek mythology, bible, a lot of legends no? Just make it mythology inspired setting and you can have gods mating with animals or monsters or humans mating with them and creating off-springs, remember the Gods in that case are generally petty gods regardless of their power level, unless you happen to meet them personally or impress them in a way of heroic acts.
>It's not fantasy, it's mythology
???
Hey speaking of Greek mythology anyone remember this cartoon
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Intro still gives me chills