Not that guy. But the point of a videogame RPG, crudely put. Is to have the player character do actions instead of the player doing actions.
The point of an RPG is not choices or narratives or whatever. Even Mario let's you assume a role and play pretend.
5e and all d20 systems innately don't feel that great to play. Since picking up Call of Cthulu and trying out World of Darkness RPGs, I haven't looked back.
Your favorite RPG experience is not immune to criticism.
If my table didn't want to play Pathfinder 2e, I wouldn't. Feels bad when my stats say I should have a 65% chance to succeed on a check and I fail it 3 times in a row. I'm not even referring to Baldur's Gate, I'm referring to a Treat Wounds check in my Pathfinder 2e game.
>Feels bad when my stats say I should have a 65% chance to succeed on a check and I fail it 3 times in a row
CoC is even worse at this, I dont know who youre trying to fool.
When I build characters in CoC my functional skills are 80. CoC is absolutely not worse about this.
ive literally played games like CoD fornite halo etc, pointed my cursor thingey right at someone and shot and missed so frick off, your crying is stupid
That has nothing to do with percentage, that's latency, and also, just because you put up with badly made garbage doesn't mean I want to.
>Feels bad when my stats say I should have a 65% chance to succeed on a check and I fail it 3 times
That is about as likely as rolling a 1 once.
Okay, and? I've taken a d20 system and instead made the players roll 2d10s and add them up because having a 1% chance to critically fail is far better than a 5% chance. It actually creates a system where your stats are more impactful without completely stripping away RNG potential.
ive literally played games like CoD fornite halo etc, pointed my cursor thingey right at someone and shot and missed so frick off, your crying is stupid
So, every Bioware """"RPG"""" is not actually an RPG?
No, they aren't, they're "RPG"s in the same way JRPGs are, they're basically (North) American "RPG"s where they have some elements of RPGs in them but not enough to offer the player actual roleplay in the roleplay genre.
Basically, Bioware, Bethesda and other North American RPGs are just their equivalent of JRPGs.
Of course there are bound to be limitations to roleplay in video games, video games and finite while the imagination is not.
However what for example BG3 does better than for example Mass Effect is that it gives the play more freedom to roleplay, particularly outside of dialogue but even then there's plenty of dialogue you get based on your actions outside of it that weren't highlighted in any way.
>they're "RPG"s in the same way JRPGs are
horrible bait
How is it "bait"?
JRPGs are not RPGs, there's a good reason why they belong to their own genre.
>If you don't like BG3's gameplay then you never actually liked RPGs, and I say this sincerely.
there's less environment interactions than dos2, the point of RPGs is to make ridiculous effects by thinking out of the box and this game is streamlined as frick, you can't do anything original with it
>there's less environment interactions than dos2
No there isn't. I really wish the environments in DOS2 were designed that well, but it's mostly "cast rain over this fire". I actually almost didn't buy bg3 because dos2 was so grating and boring.
Thank fricking god that BG3 plays differently from DoS2 because DoS2 gameplay bores me to death
Turning water into ice or electrifying it loses its novelty after the 10th hour
Truthfully, after decades of playing DND, this game single handedly made me realize how completely shit the system truly is.
We always suffered through combat in tabletop because you could be distracted by chatting with friends or drinking or taking breaks to have a smoke.
But this game.. It just highlights how awful the entire system is.
I didn't want to admit it at first either, it took me a bit. But I kept coming back to feeling like the combat was nails on a chalkboard, and I could not explain it while I held onto the cope that "it isn't because DND rules suck".
What also confused me was that i felt KOTOR 1&2 did combat fine and they used 3rde DND rules, but then I realized it used mana and other tricks to hide the worst elements of the game.
Its a garbage system and I don't think I'll be using DND rules ever again when I run my tabletop campaigns. >I always preferred D10 systems anyway
I like RPGs for the interaction and the bullshit we can come with, but a CRPG has none of this, it's just a crafted story with a fixed path and the forced tabletop mechanics, which only exists on a tabletop due to the limitations of playing such game in real life in the first place.
The fun of RPGs were never in rolling dices, if you don't understand that then maybe you are the one that never liked RPGs in the first place.
>rolls nat 20 in real life >friends cheer, we laugh, DM comes up with some funny shit >rolls nat 20 in BG3 >hit goes harder
5e on vidya sucks, it's not fun and just feels like a waste of time.
>BG3's gameplay
is the worst out of all crpgs I've ever played. I literally can't name a worse system that whatever larian came up with. It's so fricking basic and braindead. You wanna play good crpg go play underrail.
It's not just 5e it's the fact that they have no idea how to make games. They bet everything on coop in divinity and just copy pasted the same game for the 3rd time because morons will still eat it up.
hardly is half the effects they came up with don't exist
sparks? reverberation? arcane flow? it's all a bunch of nonsense they really just made a divinity game because 5e doesn't have stacks of fricking anything.
>Larian shit 5e is the only true canon RPG system and if you don't like you ABSOLUTELY hate RPGs >NO. TRUE. SCOTSMAN
The absolute state of Bald n' Gays shills
Black person please, the game is just you clicking on the ground until you find someone to talk to or to wast time on by taking turns seeing if the game lets you kill or die.
It has choices and out comes for sure but this is not something I plan on ever again completing.
>waifus
Have you even played this dogshit. The only waifu that is even close to being one is shadowheart white hair version. Literally everyone else is a Black person or is ready to settle down now
This. Only 11% of the player base has beaten the game on any difficulty (based on steam achievements).
In fact, I see my friends play and they're all stuck on act 1. Constantly restarting.
I fell for some hype vids from early access and made a gloomstalker ranger, multiclassing into assassin rogue. I fricking hate it, and I fricking hate the playstyle. On level 4, stealth is useless so far, invisibility also, I miss often and when I do hit - it's nothing spectacular. and the only good bonus is one extra free attack only on first round of combat, stealing shit from traders is useless without savescumming. Does it get better or should I just restart? I thought about making a spore druid and just overwhelm the enemy with a truckload of cheap, disposable summons, since having an extra body to soak hits and serve as a distraction seems ten times better than an extra fricking hit from a ranger...
Any rogue is basically attack from stealth>stealth back with a bonus action. You get bonus sneak attack damage as you level up and assassin is basically to delete the first enemy you hit in combat.
respec to straight Thief rogue because two bonus actions every turn is way better
use strongest ranged weapon you have and take Sharpshooter feat for the big bonus damage toggle.
There's tons of great ones that do shit like inflict bane or fear on enemies that get hit which is even better
you're totaly playing stealth wrong. You don't need to be invisible or whatever. These homies have shitty ass vision cones and your hide automatically passes when you stand outside of it. Just Bonus Action Dash to their peripheral, Bonus Action Hide on that same turn, and then have free advantage for Sneak Attack extra damage. Half the time the hit% is like 90 so I use the sharpshooter toggle for a cool 68% or whatever and get big damage. Astarion has been beasting the entire game for me this way.
>just break concentration, bro
i could hit an enemy with gajillion magic missles and he will still pass every single concentration check. meanwhile my concentration gets broken when there's so much as a gentle breeze in the air
This. The concentration mechanic is annoying. I'd rather have a dispell magic effect. It's already Black personlicious how moron powerful counter spell is at preventing the enemy (or yourself) from doing anything already.
Because your CON is garbage and you don't have War Caster.
Magic missile damage is garbage, so it's just a DC 10 check which is fricking trivial to pass.
>i hit someone with a hold person >either resisted or lasts 1 turn >my party gets hit with hold person >literally never resisted and lasts until everyone is dead
i love this
>caster has hold person on one of my companions >fighter pc time >hit caster >concentration save succeeded >hit caster >save succeeded >hit caster >save succeeded >action surge, hit caster >save succeeded >hit caster >dead
Jesus. They had a +5 Con save but come the frick on.
BG3 players pretending they are intellectually superior to anyone is the biggest laugh. It's a VN with some point and click combat thrown in, not some complex puzzle
>point and click combat thrown in, not some complex puzzle
Revealing comment, anon-kun. The combat is as complex as you'll allow it to be. If you reflexively select the highest damage attack/spell as soon as it's you're turn, don't be surprised if you find it 'shallow', 'unrewarding', and 'unfair'.
>I havent played it I just randomly shitpost and echoe the "criticism" typed by other moron who havent played the game
How are you better than trannies again?
I think they fixed the tooltip calculated odds because it actually seems to align with observed reality now. That or they fixed how attack and save rolls work so they work correctly.
>get to higher ground >bless up the party >apply accuracy oil to weapon >get perks that boost chance to hit >put more worms to brains to boost chance to hit >get reactions that reroll attack roll >get a weapon ability that deals damage even when it misses >knock enemies off balance or prone etc.
You didn't play the game or you're just bad at it.
>One of the easiest CRPGs I've ever played >Constant b***hing online
What the frick happened to you all?
I remember when we panned games for being trivially easy.
>be high IQ >deliberately ignore shove/thunder shit off the cliff because it is dumb mechanic that trivializes already piss easy game >dumb hispanics think that showing people into pits is a height of ingenuity
The game is so popular it attracted normies whose only "RPG" they played was Skyrim and The Witcher 3, even if BG3 is easy for a cRPG its much harder than that other slop.
95% of W3 enemies are powerless against you if you just repeat the cycle of attack-dodge-dodge, attack-dodge-dodge ad infinitum. Death March is no different.
Not everyone is a Dnd nerd homosexual. I realized second playthrough that the only things that matter are initiative and hit. If you literally start a fight the wrong way it's already over and you should just quick save to save 10+ minutes killing 6 goblins. This is the worst game I've ever played. I'd rather play real Dnd with actual trannies.
>If you literally start a fight the wrong way it's already over and you should just quick save to save 10+ minutes killing 6 goblins
lol this has happened to me so many times >start a battle >get some unlucky hits >things start going to absolute shit >game drags for minutes >start getting bored >load quicksave >start battle again >it's over in 2 minutes
Yeah Dex is a brokenly powerful stat and Initiative is very important. Going 2nd is always a huge disadvantage, combined with bad rolls will result in bad times.
To be honest, this problem happened because of tabletop morons, originally AC was supposed to reflect the ability of the target to protect itself, so instead of miss it would be correct to say blocked/dodged, but since table morons do not like to delve into the nuances, everyone says miss to make it faster and easier, and avoid player and DM disputes.
But how do these morons even get build issues?
Every solo class is viable. So I have to ask: what the frick is going on?
Are they playing martials with 10str?
Ignoring loot?
Farsighted so they can't read the huge "% chance to hit" the game shows when you're about to hit someone?
How can you possibly be bad at this game??? HOW???
But how do these morons even get build issues?
Every solo class is viable. So I have to ask: what the frick is going on?
Are they playing martials with 10str?
Ignoring loot?
Farsighted so they can't read the huge "% chance to hit" the game shows when you're about to hit someone?
How can you possibly be bad at this game??? HOW???
>random dice rolls are a skill
inb4 hurr you can boost the numbers a little
you don't even understand 5e and thats a piss easy system.
RAW DND doesn't have critical fails/passes for skill checks, having +12 on a reasonable check and failing 5% of the time isn't dnd
7 months ago
Anonymous
>RAW DND doesn't have critical fails/passes for skill checks,
Its an optional rule most people use
Anon
my lock has 99% chance to hit(95% plus advantage)
and then, if I wanted to, I can also get a reroll on failure to boost my chance to hit to 9999/10000
in this game failure to hit is purely optional
unless you are dumb moron who can't understand how numbers work
This. If anyone has more than 1 melee character that staff is BIS for a cleric all game. Then you pile on attack+ items and take precision attack if battlemaster. The brainlets that are missing all the time are probably prioritising 1d4 fire damage or some shit over attack.
standard bless is 1d4
with this is 2d4, 3d4 for spells
on average this means that you get +5/+7.5 to hit
which translates to +25/37.5% to hit
also I think that buff remains even if Bless gets removed due to counteraction breaking, but I'm not sure since I got War Caster on Shadowheart like a normal person
This. If anyone has more than 1 melee character that staff is BIS for a cleric all game. Then you pile on attack+ items and take precision attack if battlemaster. The brainlets that are missing all the time are probably prioritising 1d4 fire damage or some shit over attack.
standard bless is 1d4
with this is 2d4, 3d4 for spells
on average this means that you get +5/+7.5 to hit
which translates to +25/37.5% to hit
also I think that buff remains even if Bless gets removed due to counteraction breaking, but I'm not sure since I got War Caster on Shadowheart like a normal person
Way to out yourself as talking out of your ass.
Doesn't that staff only work with 2d4 for mages and everyone else still gets only 1d4?
This pretty much. All the staff actually does is add 1d4 to spell attack rolls. Check the combat logs.
I'll acknowledge the fact you have a gf, even if all these other (probably just jealous) losers won't
Sure, she's probably quite fat, fairly plain or even ugly and rejected by every actually attractive male she pursued before she met you, but hey, that's great buddy
Pic is goals for your next gf, assuming you're able to upgrade
7 months ago
Anonymous
anon, i know that this might be hard for you to understand
but not everyone is a complete fricking loser
>OP is too stupid to play a game that has already been dumbed down in comparison to rest of the series for the sake of Black folk
OP, you are basically saying that you are dumber than a Black person. Literally the biggest self own in history.
I’ve never played any of the previous titles. I’ve never played anything to do with dungeons and dragons ever in my life and know little to nothing about it.
All you do is turn karmic dice off and then stack attack/spell dc items. the karmic dice system actually works against you when you're starting to get good gear because it also benefits enemies.
Just downloaded this game. I want to learn speak with animals ASAP but I'm not sure how D&D classes work.
What class is beginner friendly? I wanna pick druid or a magic class but I'm having trouble deciding. Can you multiclass? I assume none of that or even the build matters if you go through the easiest difficulty the first time right?
you can multiclass, you can respec at any point for 100 gold (nothin) so feel free to fug around and not feel like it'll ruin your character, druid imo isn't the most beginner friendly but I also hate druid in general so I might be bias. You also get two druid companions.
Ranger is pretty beginner friendly and you can get talk to animals right away if you want that.
You generally want to get Charisma class (so paladin, bard, sorcerer or warlock) because you will be the face of the party. You can multiclass easily, but you can also play pure if you want, game is easy enough that you don't need to be that efficient. At any point you can fully respect for basically free so don't worry too much about what you do.
>You generally want to get Charisma class (so paladin, bard, sorcerer or warlock)
I forgot about this because I'm on my murderhobo playthrough now. I guess talking to people or whatever is good if you aren't going to be chopping their heads off
You mean I can completely change my class at anytime or just change stats?
I'm definitely picking dragonborn race though. Which of Sorcerer or Warlock is more fun? I might just pick ranger though. Does each class have a sub class?
you can completely relevel your character from level 1. you can also multiclass in process if you want
dragonborn is pretty bad, although it does look nice
I didn't play sorc so I can't tell, but warlock is pretty fun
You can change your class and stats. Just not your race.
Sorc and Warlock are both popular and fun. You probably won't go wrong with either. They're probably a better choice than ranger for the charisma main stat so you can be the party face
Sorc has sub classes:
Dragon Ancestry (basically boosts an elemental type), wild magic (random effects when you cast spells, can be good or bad), and storm sorc. Storm sorc is all lightning/thunder based. I played storm sorc my first time and enjoyed it a lot
Warlock can pick a different patron, ie great old one, fiend, archfey, which is basically subclass. You get different spells n stuff.
I'm assuming just because you pick a magic classe you aren't limited to to staves and have more options then that? Do spells require turns or materials to charge up? Do materials respawn?
>I'm assuming just because you pick a magic classe you aren't limited to to staves and have more options then that?
You can equip other weapons but staves give you magic related boni so you will usually run them even if other weapons are possible >Do spells require turns or materials to charge up?
No they are cast instantly and only need an action to cast, some spells fall under the concentration category those spells are cast instantly as well but persist into future rounds as long as your concentration isn't broken >Do materials respawn?
No materials needed >One more thing, how much of a time limit am I on?
None
Play on tactician or you'll die of boredom once you reach the halfway point. Even on tactician the game is easy as frick after about level 3-4. You can also respec practically for free. No class is any less or more complicated than another, besides some having multiple spells but then you just have to read.
I don't think the game lets you multi-class on the lowest difficulty. You can change difficulty mid-game, and there's nothing wrong with a pure class, the game should be able to easy to beat with enough creativity/back tracking.
There are also potions and scrolls that let anyone speak with animals for a full ingame day.
Those didn't give you a single perception check which can critically fail, and they also paused the game or halted your character on detection.
Traps aren't really a danger at any point in BG3 but they were still handled terribly.
Warlocks can take speak with animals at level 2/3 IIRC, they're a solid class all round with decent martial and casting ability if you build them right. Also good in conversation thanks to using CHA as their casting modifier.
DOS2 has a very different combat. Since movement and skills both use "action points", it heavily favors long ranged characters like casters and rangers. BG3 has movement, action and bonus action as their own separate things, and it makes melee more viable as an option.
You're just plain wrong, buddy. DOS and its sequel relied heavily on elements and their synergy. You were constantly trying to create surfaces and conditions (ex. wet enemies taking more electric damage). BG3 is much more about traditional damage dealing until enemy HP runs out
>other turn based like pathfinder
Pathfinder doesn't have functional turn based mode, it has a cheat mode that is essentially "turn based rtwp" where you get all the benefits of turn based in a game balanced for rtwp.
>new patch breaks the game
Thanks, Larian. I have nobody but myself to blame, though, I should have known better and just waited for the enhanced edition.
Use Bless, use height advantage, use stealth advantage, use CC
you have so many abilities at your disposal to give yourself an edge but instead you choose unga bunga fighter attack with sword every turn and wonder why you cant do shit
Is there anyway to stop party members giving you really rare stuff when you take them out of the party? I got the cool misty step boots from Nere so I gave them to Astarion but every time he leaves the party he unequips them
If BG3 has any problems its >the abrupt downturn in writing after Act 2 >no way to know if you are stat capped, so you are just stacking hit chance like a monkey rather than truly optimizing >melee has no reason to exist and is about as effectual as if you tried to use a sword in modern day Ukraine >an embarrassing amount of bugs even after an open beta and several huge patches
>melee has no reason to exist
What are you talking about? Str Monk is literally the highest consistent damage and Pally is the highest burst in the game and barbarians are just fun.
mage armor + a couple other items that increase unarmoured AC, mirror image, haste >but you can't self cast haste AND use hold person/monster
true, so I either have another party member do it, use a speed potion or god forbid I can forgo the 2AC and have 31 instead, potentially using my reaction to cast shield and go up to 36 if someone tries slapping me regardless
>there are also elixirs and medium armors that can apply your DEX bonus
i gave that one to astarion. a wizard is gonna be casting control spells or aoe spells most of the time anyway, so he won't have any need for high dex in the first place
>KEKED >KEKED >KEKED >KEKED >KEKED
amazing how buckbroken chuds are by bg3. statistically its impossible for them to be this ass-savaged but, alas, they are
>doing last light fight >cast flaming sphere >some npcs are directly below Isobel's room and are considered out of combat so they slowly cook to death every 10 seconds
Same thing happened to me with Cloud Of Daggers. The counsellor kept getting sliced up downstairs and by the time the fight was over, the room was almost entirely covered in blood.
Well if you are very lucky it will force some bad rolls and if you are very unlucky it will force some good rolls
The idea is to sort of emulate a GM going easy or harder on you.
Problem is I think a lot of people have it active and savescum
Which means they reach a point where the dice desperately try to make you unlucky
Or people go by gut feeling which is always that you are treated unfairly compared to the opponent
>Magic missle is a guaranteed hit. >Bless gives advantage on everything else. >AoE spells still do half damage with a successful saving throw. >The game shits OP magical gear at you from the first dungeon. >Illithid powers give you free damage, crits, defence, and heals.
There are three difficult fights in the entire game if you're going in blind and one if you're not, that the frick are you guys doing?
The githyanki at the bridge is the only one I has a genuinely hard time with.
Nere was difficult because everyone got launched into lava on my first playthrough but was easy after that.
The one against the winged guy in last light isn't technically difficult but your fricked if Isobel gets raped in a single turn before your cleric can heal her.
the game is okay but I'll stick to my live D&D sessions. Something about having a DM is nice.
Especially when medieval tyrone and his good boys try to rob you and you find yourself in a sticky situation.
first of all don't play dnd. there are countless better systems and settings out there that are not filled to the brim with critial shit tertiaries and trannies to boot
The problem is no one wants to play some shitty system they haven't heard of. But you're too much of a stupid homosexual to comprehend what someone posts.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>no one wants to play some shitty system they haven't heard of
why would you want to play with dnd tertiaries, mate?
Pretty much the worst advice possible. You use D&D as a gateway to meet people, THEN you weed out the undesirables and form a group for your not D&D game. Having a good group is what matters most.
t. has done this multiple times
People hate the games they play with you and only like you and stomach them for you
t. person who played a stupid dragon age rpg with someone who absolutely hated d20 and just wanted to play 3D6
Nice projection, you really are a miserable c**t. We've rotated all types of systems and have openly said when we haven't liked them. Get some real friends.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Nice projection
What a homosexual post when your entire argument in the first place was projecting your experience on others
I know your friends hate the games you make them play so take it as a compliment that they like you enough to stomach them
the best option would be to make friends some other way and then start a dnd group with them
no, really.
everyone I have ever met just to do a dnd group with them has been insufferable and every game that I just started with my friends who had 0 expectations and never played PF or watched Critical Role was 100% better because you can set the expectations yourself.
>Play Wildheart Barbarian 6/Monk 2/Champion Fighter 4 w/ Tavernbrawler >bleed opponents >do 2.5x Str to damage each punch >action surge for extra when needed >simply delete enemies
Compared to Owlcat CRPGs on higher difficulty this game is completely braindead. Just punch and they die.
Forget the shitty ass dice roll gameplay, this story is dog shit >playing the designated bad guy dragon guy >my goal is to be an awful man and twist the game's story into the worst possible hell >enter the ass prism and talk to my guardian who I made a Black person because it's funny >the give me a fitting speech about how I did nothing they asked me to >they hand me a sword to kill them >this would doom me and my party members and the world apparently >take sword, stab them dramatically >character just tells me I'm not trustworthy and continues the script >I know they continue the script and nothing changes because I loaded a save, roleplayed as the exact opposite of everything I did so far (a good guy) and he said all the same things >this has no repercussions whatsoever
Even New Vegas, a 12 year old game, had the decency to feed you a hilarious bad guy ending slide (or an entire ending if you become a legionnaire.) We went from obligatory "you fricked up moron" to... literally nothing. And this is after including a bunch of senseless, violent, psychotic ingame choices like kicking a squirrel into a tree. What a tease.
lmao did you actually get any further in the game yet? that b***h is gaslighting you the entire game so not doing what she says is actually goodguy stuff
This game does have a hilarious bad guy ending slide. You also could've gotten a complete game over when you were interacting with the Gith queen prior to entering the vessel.
People complain about missing attacks constantly when they're less than 30 hours into the game. I know because I've been there. Once you get past 30 hours you realize there are around 600 other things that piss you off much more. I cannot believe that anyone rated this game a 10/10 and finished it. Another case of reviewers shilling the frick out of a game they never beat, and twitter/reddit shilling the game because they think with their dicks. No fricking way is a game this buggy, unfinished, imbalanced, and repetitive a 10/10.
>all enemies focus on Shart because she is the healer and sorcerer >if I am outnumbered this means any heals or spells have to be spent on herself >if I dont do this she gets hit by 12 fireballs and dies before it's even her turn >when I do this my teammates have to be able to kill the entire enemy party in 2 turns or they'll be fighting enemies who teleport and shoot 12 fireballs >all this because I am not playing a spellcaster with the 3 other spellcasters in this RPG where you must be a wizard or else battles are torture
12 wizards, as if mobs dont attack 2-3 times each in the late game
you are undoubtedly one of the larian dicksuckers defending this tripe all thread
loving every laugh
Anon I’ve literally never lost a battle with a half and half martial/caster party. Wizards have some of the lowest action economy in the game, spellcasters in general get one big spell a turn period. Have you even played?
Which fight are you specifically talking about anon? We've played the game there is no reason to be vague, unless you are making up the scenario which you are.
gith queen is a textbook example
that room is filled with buff robots and a tank so if you arent minmaxing with shit you got off google it's over
the entire area leading up to her is hostile as well (including astral plane) so you cant camp/respec >NOOOOO WHY DIDNT YOU JUST DO EVERYTHING PERFECTLY
if the game is that binary and you must do x,y,z then its not a very good game period
also enjoy that save fail bug thanks to the latest patch
larian dicksuckers, lmfao
My guy just kill the small ones and then the big one. I went in blind on tactician with a fighter, a cleric, a sorcerer, and a rogue. If you fight stupid you die stupid, stupid.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Way to ignore the issue. Even if the party spec is the problem you can't fix that throughout the entire creche.
7 months ago
Anonymous
There is no problem party spec. You have mountains of potions and scrolls.
7 months ago
Anonymous
And the creche was hostile to you? Did you not think you might want to bring your Gith as an ambassador to a blatantly hostile race?
7 months ago
Anonymous
I brought Laezel with me and ended up slaughtering them all anyway. It really doesnt matter.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Oh I know that's how it'll playout regardless but I'm just noticing the things anon fricked up.
>umm akchyully the party member is mandatory so
Stop posting moron. If this is a puzzle game where you must have a perfect party and can't roleplay as anything because it's not only non-optimal but borderline impossible, then it's not an RPG.
You didn't think about the situation in the context of the game and yet think you actually want to roleplay?
The game, sometimes, behaves differently based on logical shit and you are complaining about it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>the game sometimes requires exact things but you still have the freedom to roleplay and stuff bro
moronic. If you're going to keep replying to me then include a compliment with each one. Otherwise no more replies for you.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>requires
Talk good, bring a gith, or kill your way in. You have three easy options and you’re angry you can’t do any of them moron.
7 months ago
Anonymous
That's fine we've reached the point where you are arguing that having to think logically or understand the game mechanics is min/maxing bullshit or a puzzle game.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>umm akchyully the party member is mandatory so
Stop posting moron. If this is a puzzle game where you must have a perfect party and can't roleplay as anything because it's not only non-optimal but borderline impossible, then it's not an RPG.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You can murder your way in and out trivially but your ass apparently cannot manage.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You can into the middle of a base full of stuck up murderers and didn't think to bring the one person who would stop them from immediately attacking you? Did the into cutscene with the cultists getting kidnapped and killed not tell you that this would be a bad idea?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>And the creche was hostile to you?
the creche is always hostile after you talk to the goddess
you cant just sneak out either because they lock the door
either you win that fight with the party you made or you dont and you start the game over
then people wonder why the game is frustrating
7 months ago
Anonymous
>he literally can’t win the fight
Genuinely pathetic.
7 months ago
Anonymous
thanks for proving me right in
gith queen is a textbook example
that room is filled with buff robots and a tank so if you arent minmaxing with shit you got off google it's over
the entire area leading up to her is hostile as well (including astral plane) so you cant camp/respec >NOOOOO WHY DIDNT YOU JUST DO EVERYTHING PERFECTLY
if the game is that binary and you must do x,y,z then its not a very good game period
also enjoy that save fail bug thanks to the latest patch
larian dicksuckers, lmfao
pic is you
7 months ago
Anonymous
>nooo this video game… too hard!
Literally made to be beaten by any party setup and you still can’t.
7 months ago
Anonymous
you're just shit man
before I even went in the creche I explored the monastery top to bottom and find everything
everyone had a blessing the entire time giving them extra radiant damage
when I fought the inquisitor my monk flurry toppled him first turn and LaeZel smoked him with her 2 attacks the first turn.
frick man what level were you when you went to the pass?
and you ignored the warning that you should try the underdark instead because it would be easier?
do you just ignore shit? not look around for paths and items when the game gives you a point of no return warning? I had laezel and shart decked out in adamantine armor before I even got to the pass
7 months ago
Anonymous
>nooo this video game… too hard!
Literally made to be beaten by any party setup and you still can’t.
you could give me a completely randomly generated party, completely random classes, even make them randomly multiclass into nonsense, and as long as I have the items and scrolls you acquire by that point in the game, I will never, ever even slightly struggle in the creche
This is a you problem, and I'm not even trying to insult you, just play some more trying different stuff instead of getting frustrated and mad. I promise you there are solutions to your problems if you look for them.
samegay
yes i know you'll go boot up mspaint, advertisers are inherently duplicitous
this is assuming you arent just an aggressive contrarian with aspd
7 months ago
Anonymous
You're right, anon. You found the conspiracy. And the conspiracy extends so deeply, that any posts about the creche and it's difficulty are purged. Notice how literally no one else on the planet except you has this problem? There are no posts about it?
Well actually.. they do. But we have ways of quieting them. Making sure they stay quiet. Making sure that the narrative is the game is joke-tier easy
That way people like you, can get to the creche, and be demoralized, when it is literally impossible for you to beat an encounter I beat so quickly and easily I barely even remember what you're talking about
You better stay quiet about this. You keep your mouth yapping and revealing our secrets.. we might have to take more drastic action.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>assuming you arent just an aggressive contrarian with aspd
mystery solved, freak
stay on the internet and away from decent people
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but the githyanki gauntlet part is very frustrating if you don't have a save just before it. The autosave will make you one but that's easy to overwrite since people seem to do things like
>If you literally start a fight the wrong way it's already over and you should just quick save to save 10+ minutes killing 6 goblins
lol this has happened to me so many times >start a battle >get some unlucky hits >things start going to absolute shit >game drags for minutes >start getting bored >load quicksave >start battle again >it's over in 2 minutes
just to avoid rolls making the game immediately harder. Fact is if you lose too hard in that room suddenly you're left with less than half a party, nowhere to rest, can't port out and you are forced to engage big warbands. If invis potions didn't exist it would be exactly as bad as the Shar gauntlet.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>if you run into a hostile area with no resources and no saves you might frick yourself
ok?
if I run out into the middle of the open in an FPS game I am likely to get shot by other players
Situation is made up anyway. What do you mean "left with half a party and no where to rest"?
Use your 20 ressurect scrolls( why did people die?) and potions to heal up.
Again, you also should have 5000 scrolls offering billions of solutions. There's explosive barrels around, isn't there?
Try playing the videogame and you might succeed at the videogame.
7 months ago
Anonymous
please post your character sheets anon we really need the laugh
please show us you stumbled you way there at level 3 or some shit with an all caster party or something I'll apologize for making fun of you
7 months ago
Anonymous
Odd numbered stats everywhere. Charisma up to 18 on his MC Fighter because of course people have to like me. What do you mean I'm preforming poorly in combat? What kinda RPG is this where I can't do whatever I want and have it always work out.
7 months ago
Anonymous
People are too used to MMO rpg defaults
I was playing this with a friend and he asked me if he should make a tank, healer or dd
7 months ago
Anonymous
It's understandable that that is the mindset going in but it shouldn't be too bad if your friend is open to learning. If he does want to make a tank teach him about Sentinel and Polearm Mastery feats
7 months ago
Anonymous
I just explained that DnD has different roles like Face and Scout
But not everyone has someone experienced with DnD around to play this so I would not be surprised if people fall on their face trying to make a tank
7 months ago
Anonymous
Good way to recontextualize it and yeah I offered tank because it is such an obvious idea, I want a big guy to cover my weak guys, but 5e really really doesn't support it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The irony of shitting on JRPGs when they demand this exact same level of precision autism. Some earlier said BG3 is basically a puzzle game and that seems to be the case if the grognards here are to be believed. Even the guys arguing about tabletop campaigns acknowledge if the party fricks up that bad he'll just kill them and either let them start fresh or roll them back.
>if you run into a hostile area with no resources and no saves you might frick yourself
ok?
if I run out into the middle of the open in an FPS game I am likely to get shot by other players
Situation is made up anyway. What do you mean "left with half a party and no where to rest"?
Use your 20 ressurect scrolls( why did people die?) and potions to heal up.
Again, you also should have 5000 scrolls offering billions of solutions. There's explosive barrels around, isn't there?
Try playing the videogame and you might succeed at the videogame.
It's not a hostile area. Someone mentioned they kill Absolute cultists so unless you agreed to get the brand and stuff it's simple to decide they won't attack you. This is doubled if you talk your way in, engage the merchant, etc. only to realize you're scripted to fight your way out of the whole tower after the plot beat. The game very deliberately baits you into a bad position and unless you've been doing something like buying invis potions you're simply stuck in a bad place, unless you have learned absolutely everything in the game by the second area.
I wish I could say I don't understand how (You) don't understand how that sequence can be frustrating, but /tg/ is a shitty place and I'm familiar with the cantankerous overlards who occupy it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'm aware of how the creche plays out but that specific anon was talking about it being hostile the entire time and I was pointing out the logically solution to that point.
7 months ago
Anonymous
What the frick? I beat the inquisitor and exited the commander's office, then I was able to teleport away without fighting anyone else. I already killed the kith'rak and a few guards before, to be able to enter the inquisitor area at all.
You can also teleport directly outside the creche if you find the Blood of Lathander which is in the inquisitor room
Why do people have problems with this?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>I already killed the kith'rak and a few guards before, to be able to enter the inquisitor area at all.
That's why. The roll to be non-hostile on your way to that room isn't high at all. The last big area even slightly similar to this (goblin camp) doesn't require you to fight your way out unless you deliberately go and kill their leaders. Even freeing Halsin doesn't automatically make the entire way out hostile. Someone in this thread even said something like "just use your own gith to enter without issue" when that creates the exact same problem. >enter tower >has a merchant, etc. >characters are rude but not hostile >talk to god >talk to rubix cube guardian >high inquisitor homosexual cannot be talked down in any way whatsoever >must now do a boss battle >cant go back to camp after so your party better be well optimized or it's a softlock
Part of a game offering so much freedom is the freedom to get completely stuck. If people are going to defend this game they need to accept it's just as easy to accidentally frick up as accidentally make the perfect party to blitz all the game's content.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You are completely correct and I can understand that it can put the player in a very bad situation and people will find that frustrating, but I also like that the game does this because it creates a hard scenario that can catch you offguard.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>cant go back to camp after so your party better be well optimized or it's a softlock
You can leave the room and have another fight (where the kids are training) and then you can camp. You kept going forward with the mission rather than leave the hostile area marked in red to recover.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I get it but you still haven't deigned us worthy to know what fricking level your characters were yet or what your comp was not to mention you always had the option to simply not go there
7 months ago
Anonymous
Different anon I imagine to the guy who started this chain of thought. Notice how that person actually has a thought and is able to articulate it? Couldn't possibly be
gith queen is a textbook example
that room is filled with buff robots and a tank so if you arent minmaxing with shit you got off google it's over
the entire area leading up to her is hostile as well (including astral plane) so you cant camp/respec >NOOOOO WHY DIDNT YOU JUST DO EVERYTHING PERFECTLY
if the game is that binary and you must do x,y,z then its not a very good game period
also enjoy that save fail bug thanks to the latest patch
larian dicksuckers, lmfao
Fair enough that fight is actually hard and can go badly many different ways, but you probably don't know the systems at play if you think the game requires min/maxing. What do your character's stat blocks look like?
Unless "knowing how the game works" counts as min/maxing, we can stop the conversation here.
It and Shield are pretty much the only lvl 1's that hold up all game for the specific things they do.
Being able to see what creatures health is actually at is even more powerful.
he means "I will do guiding bolt so my other attacks will get advantage"
even though there's like tons of easier ways to get advantage that don't use spell slots
It was mostly just a joke, but I bet at least 80% of people who played this game had that experience at some point, just because of what the game gives you at the start.
I meant I will use Shadowheart to cast guiding bolt so my guy is less likely to miss
And then guiding bolt misses
I'm mostly just memeing though, game is easy as frick if you rub 2 neurons together. Some of these people would die if they tried WotR
Its just a gambling porn game for nerds, thats it. If you played Texas Hold'em while getting your dick sucked, that's what BG3 is, only there's a fairy tale on top of it. So imagine the prostitute sucking your wiener agreed to dress like a Disney princess and role-play. Thats BG3.
you could give me a completely randomly generated party, completely random classes, even make them randomly multiclass into nonsense, and as long as I have the items and scrolls you acquire by that point in the game, I will never, ever even slightly struggle in the creche
This is a you problem, and I'm not even trying to insult you, just play some more trying different stuff instead of getting frustrated and mad. I promise you there are solutions to your problems if you look for them.
2 levels in warlock are pretty good. You get to add your charisma bonus to eldritch blast and it can optionally move people
And eldritch blast itself scales with level and not warlock levels so if you are level 3 bard and 2 warlock you get the level 5 version of eldritch blast
Bard and Warlock are fun, bard and pally is pretty good if you go college of sword.
I actually want to do a all bard playthrough because you can multiclass into having a frontliner, dex and double full caster easily.
If you actually manage to somehow softlock yourself in this game, you deserve it because that is an incredible feat and accomplishment. I really don't know how I'd do it if I tried, other than just literally deleting every item I found along the way, never leveling up, etc.
Time to start over. Leave tooltips on this time.
>entire thread full of complaining about game mechanics >other threads complaining about game mechanics >people who dont know tabletop totally miss things or get themselves stuck >people who do know tabletop think 5e is for babies
Amazingly this game occupies an awkward middle place where it consistently fails to be pleasing. The 10/10 scores do feel very paid by the way. Larian Tencent poster did nothing wrong.
I notice how you cut this part off of my quote:
" because that is an incredible feat and accomplishment. I really don't know how I'd do it if I tried, other than just literally deleting every item I found along the way, never leveling up, etc."
It's interesting you cut that part out of my quote because all of that could basically be summarized as: The game is designed in such a way that it is impossible to frick up this badly.
Just kind of a fun little silly thing how you cut out the part of my quote that completely destroys your point, so that you can make your point. Fun and silly hehe
>The game is designed in such a way that it is impossible to frick up this badly.
I mean you're just a homosexual really. I remember back in the day /tg/ was full of people like you who insist every game is easy if only they were 300 IQ geniuses like you. You insulting anybody is like being insulted by someone with a full diaper and a propeller hat.
I dont even know how it would be possible. The only time I had an issue was in Act 3 when I-..my character blackmailed Arfur rather than kill him or whatever so the quest didn't update as having done anything and the only way to complete it is by nuking the fireworks store but the journal doesnt really give you such indications
Every single time we get a game that actually demands that you build competent characters to be competent. Endless complaints like yours pop up. Every time.
Don't forget the spells clearly designed to do something that don't actually do anything. >take illusion >you can throw a cat illusion somewhere and the enemy will look at it >this makes their vision cone stare at it for a little whole so you can sneak past >simple enough >try that >enemy jogs over to it for 1 second >immediately turns around because Astarion is actually terrible at stealth
I swear the people whining about casuals not optimizing don't realize nearly everything in this game is broken. It either flat out doesn't work or is overtuned completely.
>I should be in the front, defending my waifus, right?
Yes.
That's why I made my character a Constitution Barbarian even though Constitution isn't exactly the best stat.
But it does indeed make him tankier. And taking all the hits while giving my wives advantage rolls in battle feels good.
My friend outright killed me in a multiplayer game by throwing a healing potion directly at my downed character while having the feat that boosts thrown object damage
I wish Larian did more to like, larian-ify the underpowered/boring classes from 5e like Eldritch Knight and Champion, Monk is SO fricking fun and that's only because they made it different from 5e.
Nah the damage is solid. Stack up some of the israeliteelry like caustic band to add some more damage. Special hand crossbows are pretty good, moonrise towers merchant has one that adds force damage, temple demon has one that can add fire damage and burn, and the grymforge has one that adds more damage if they're burning. I do five levels in ranger for archery fighting style and extra attack, three levels into rogue for thief bonus action, and three into college of sword bard for flourish.
Nah the damage is solid. Stack up some of the israeliteelry like caustic band to add some more damage. Special hand crossbows are pretty good, moonrise towers merchant has one that adds force damage, temple demon has one that can add fire damage and burn, and the grymforge has one that adds more damage if they're burning. I do five levels in ranger for archery fighting style and extra attack, three levels into rogue for thief bonus action, and three into college of sword bard for flourish.
Oh and sharpshooter feat can stack more damage too
Im utterly fricking sick of dicerolls after 150 hours of playtime. Why can I not brute force open a lock with like 3 lockpicks or something, I dont want to sit through this annoying fricking animation over and over
The biggest problem with this game is that clicking on your character icons in turn order while having an attack queued with another character will cause your party to attack itself without any confirmation screen.
This just immediately forces a reload
Yes if you select the attack option and pick your own guy they will attack them, I absolutely have done this as well, but I'm not sure if that is the biggest problem.
But enough about respecting in-game character pronouns
>pronouns
Miss is a title you moron.
pardon me, sir
Go up to a trans and call them sir then
>It's maaam
Nobody plays this slop for the gameplay.
It is only for the waifus and the sex.
>Nobody plays this slop for the gameplay.
If you don't like BG3's gameplay then you never actually liked RPGs, and I say this sincerely.
So, every Bioware """"RPG"""" is not actually an RPG?
Not really, no. I would argue everything bioware made after BG2 is trash, and BG1 and BG2 are popular because they're nice beginner games.
>So, every Bioware """"RPG""""
lol you can't even say bioware rpg without layering it in 4 quotations, and you're asking if they're real RPGs?
Lol. You don't understand the point of an RPG
You don't play RPGs. At all.
Stop. You're embarrassing yourself
Not that guy. But the point of a videogame RPG, crudely put. Is to have the player character do actions instead of the player doing actions.
The point of an RPG is not choices or narratives or whatever. Even Mario let's you assume a role and play pretend.
>rpg is when i click option three and gain 1 relationship point
But enough about BG3
What's a naked Black person have to do with rpgs?
5e is shit though
Its all shit, dawg.
Lmao i just killed this guy
Hope you made him suffer, because his post was turbo homosexualry.
ROLE PLAYING GAME you stupid fricking troony moron. GAME. Not roleplaying story. ACK yourself.
5e and all d20 systems innately don't feel that great to play. Since picking up Call of Cthulu and trying out World of Darkness RPGs, I haven't looked back.
Your favorite RPG experience is not immune to criticism.
If my table didn't want to play Pathfinder 2e, I wouldn't. Feels bad when my stats say I should have a 65% chance to succeed on a check and I fail it 3 times in a row. I'm not even referring to Baldur's Gate, I'm referring to a Treat Wounds check in my Pathfinder 2e game.
>Feels bad when my stats say I should have a 65% chance to succeed on a check and I fail it 3 times
That is about as likely as rolling a 1 once.
>Karmic Dice: ON
>Roll 1 4x in a row on a skill check
Frick this game lmao
>Feels bad when my stats say I should have a 65% chance to succeed on a check and I fail it 3 times in a row
CoC is even worse at this, I dont know who youre trying to fool.
When I build characters in CoC my functional skills are 80. CoC is absolutely not worse about this.
That has nothing to do with percentage, that's latency, and also, just because you put up with badly made garbage doesn't mean I want to.
Okay, and? I've taken a d20 system and instead made the players roll 2d10s and add them up because having a 1% chance to critically fail is far better than a 5% chance. It actually creates a system where your stats are more impactful without completely stripping away RNG potential.
>Okay, and?
You acted like it was impossible
When it is around 5%. 1 in 20
1 in 27 and no I didn't, in fact, my point is that situations like this are too common when you're role-playing as people actually good at things
>4%
>1 in 27
1 in 25
ive literally played games like CoD fornite halo etc, pointed my cursor thingey right at someone and shot and missed so frick off, your crying is stupid
Why is he so shiny
He's covered in various juices because he lives in a slimey meat cave.
Based and true.
No, they aren't, they're "RPG"s in the same way JRPGs are, they're basically (North) American "RPG"s where they have some elements of RPGs in them but not enough to offer the player actual roleplay in the roleplay genre.
Basically, Bioware, Bethesda and other North American RPGs are just their equivalent of JRPGs.
"actual" roleplay in a video game is impossible, a video game can't respond to improv
Of course there are bound to be limitations to roleplay in video games, video games and finite while the imagination is not.
However what for example BG3 does better than for example Mass Effect is that it gives the play more freedom to roleplay, particularly outside of dialogue but even then there's plenty of dialogue you get based on your actions outside of it that weren't highlighted in any way.
How is it "bait"?
JRPGs are not RPGs, there's a good reason why they belong to their own genre.
>they're "RPG"s in the same way JRPGs are
horrible bait
>turn based games
>actual rpgs
love me xcom roleplay
>If you don't like BG3's gameplay then you never actually liked RPGs, and I say this sincerely.
there's less environment interactions than dos2, the point of RPGs is to make ridiculous effects by thinking out of the box and this game is streamlined as frick, you can't do anything original with it
>there's less environment interactions than dos2
No there isn't. I really wish the environments in DOS2 were designed that well, but it's mostly "cast rain over this fire". I actually almost didn't buy bg3 because dos2 was so grating and boring.
Thank fricking god that BG3 plays differently from DoS2 because DoS2 gameplay bores me to death
Turning water into ice or electrifying it loses its novelty after the 10th hour
Truthfully, after decades of playing DND, this game single handedly made me realize how completely shit the system truly is.
We always suffered through combat in tabletop because you could be distracted by chatting with friends or drinking or taking breaks to have a smoke.
But this game.. It just highlights how awful the entire system is.
I didn't want to admit it at first either, it took me a bit. But I kept coming back to feeling like the combat was nails on a chalkboard, and I could not explain it while I held onto the cope that "it isn't because DND rules suck".
What also confused me was that i felt KOTOR 1&2 did combat fine and they used 3rde DND rules, but then I realized it used mana and other tricks to hide the worst elements of the game.
Its a garbage system and I don't think I'll be using DND rules ever again when I run my tabletop campaigns.
>I always preferred D10 systems anyway
>this game single handedly made me realize how completely shit the system 5E truly is.
ftfy
I like RPGs for the interaction and the bullshit we can come with, but a CRPG has none of this, it's just a crafted story with a fixed path and the forced tabletop mechanics, which only exists on a tabletop due to the limitations of playing such game in real life in the first place.
The fun of RPGs were never in rolling dices, if you don't understand that then maybe you are the one that never liked RPGs in the first place.
>rolls nat 20 in real life
>friends cheer, we laugh, DM comes up with some funny shit
>rolls nat 20 in BG3
>hit goes harder
5e on vidya sucks, it's not fun and just feels like a waste of time.
>BG3's gameplay
is the worst out of all crpgs I've ever played. I literally can't name a worse system that whatever larian came up with. It's so fricking basic and braindead. You wanna play good crpg go play underrail.
It's 5e.
It's not just 5e it's the fact that they have no idea how to make games. They bet everything on coop in divinity and just copy pasted the same game for the 3rd time because morons will still eat it up.
hardly is half the effects they came up with don't exist
sparks? reverberation? arcane flow? it's all a bunch of nonsense they really just made a divinity game because 5e doesn't have stacks of fricking anything.
>Larian shit 5e is the only true canon RPG system and if you don't like you ABSOLUTELY hate RPGs
>NO. TRUE. SCOTSMAN
The absolute state of Bald n' Gays shills
I love RPGs and TTRPGs but Baldur's Gate 3 has so much pointless combat and it drags onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Black person please, the game is just you clicking on the ground until you find someone to talk to or to wast time on by taking turns seeing if the game lets you kill or die.
It has choices and out comes for sure but this is not something I plan on ever again completing.
>waifus
Have you even played this dogshit. The only waifu that is even close to being one is shadowheart white hair version. Literally everyone else is a Black person or is ready to settle down now
>and the sex
There is literally no sex in the game. It just goes to dark screen before anything happens.
This. Only 11% of the player base has beaten the game on any difficulty (based on steam achievements).
In fact, I see my friends play and they're all stuck on act 1. Constantly restarting.
I fell for some hype vids from early access and made a gloomstalker ranger, multiclassing into assassin rogue. I fricking hate it, and I fricking hate the playstyle. On level 4, stealth is useless so far, invisibility also, I miss often and when I do hit - it's nothing spectacular. and the only good bonus is one extra free attack only on first round of combat, stealing shit from traders is useless without savescumming. Does it get better or should I just restart? I thought about making a spore druid and just overwhelm the enemy with a truckload of cheap, disposable summons, since having an extra body to soak hits and serve as a distraction seems ten times better than an extra fricking hit from a ranger...
Any rogue is basically attack from stealth>stealth back with a bonus action. You get bonus sneak attack damage as you level up and assassin is basically to delete the first enemy you hit in combat.
respec to straight Thief rogue because two bonus actions every turn is way better
use strongest ranged weapon you have and take Sharpshooter feat for the big bonus damage toggle.
There's tons of great ones that do shit like inflict bane or fear on enemies that get hit which is even better
you're totaly playing stealth wrong. You don't need to be invisible or whatever. These homies have shitty ass vision cones and your hide automatically passes when you stand outside of it. Just Bonus Action Dash to their peripheral, Bonus Action Hide on that same turn, and then have free advantage for Sneak Attack extra damage. Half the time the hit% is like 90 so I use the sharpshooter toggle for a cool 68% or whatever and get big damage. Astarion has been beasting the entire game for me this way.
If this had an anime aesthetic with its art direction, this would’ve sold twice as much
gameplay != combat
Imagine if there were multiple ways to increase your odds of landing an attack. Oh wait.
if that was ever the solution in D&D we wouldnt have decades worth of bad roll jokes"
>party gets hit with Hold Person
>time to reload
You could just break concentration though. Why is Ganker so shit at this game?
>just break the concentration when you cant act bro
Ganker continues to not play video games
You have 3 other party member... or you can just sanctuary the cc'ed character
Ganker is trash at games, big news
even in tactician the game is easy as shit
Kys, russian scum.
Slava Ukraini
Hail Zelensky
Go back to
where ypu belong
yeah, average vee guy is moronic
even tactician is easy once you have a general understanding of the game mechanics, synergies and potential cheeses
>just break concentration, bro
i could hit an enemy with gajillion magic missles and he will still pass every single concentration check. meanwhile my concentration gets broken when there's so much as a gentle breeze in the air
This. The concentration mechanic is annoying. I'd rather have a dispell magic effect. It's already Black personlicious how moron powerful counter spell is at preventing the enemy (or yourself) from doing anything already.
Because your CON is garbage and you don't have War Caster.
Magic missile damage is garbage, so it's just a DC 10 check which is fricking trivial to pass.
>save scumming
You didn't beat the game
MISS
Bless
Shitter spotted.
>Auntie has initiative
>Hold person my whole team, even shadowbawd
>Proceed to get shitted on and die in 3 turns of doing nothing
Powerful gameplay.
>i hit someone with a hold person
>either resisted or lasts 1 turn
>my party gets hit with hold person
>literally never resisted and lasts until everyone is dead
i love this
>caster has hold person on one of my companions
>fighter pc time
>hit caster
>concentration save succeeded
>hit caster
>save succeeded
>hit caster
>save succeeded
>action surge, hit caster
>save succeeded
>hit caster
>dead
Jesus. They had a +5 Con save but come the frick on.
Yawn, another filtered brainlet.
BG3 players pretending they are intellectually superior to anyone is the biggest laugh. It's a VN with some point and click combat thrown in, not some complex puzzle
I reckon they're intellectually super to the third worlders crying about BG3 because they're too poor to run it.
>esl
>complaining about third worlders
The ironing.
>poster
>complaining about posters
The posting.
>point and click combat thrown in, not some complex puzzle
Revealing comment, anon-kun. The combat is as complex as you'll allow it to be. If you reflexively select the highest damage attack/spell as soon as it's you're turn, don't be surprised if you find it 'shallow', 'unrewarding', and 'unfair'.
lol is this moron even real? By your moronic logic, CoD is also a complex game.
Why did you get filtered by it then?
I'm not trans so I haven't played it. I'll play it when it's under $10
You will become trans for 10 bucks?
>reading comprehension issues
I didn't expect much from you and I'm still let down
>I havent played it I just randomly shitpost and echoe the "criticism" typed by other moron who havent played the game
How are you better than trannies again?
Feel free to point out the echoed criticism. I'll wait
MISS
i've missed more 80% shots in this than in any xcom game
I think they fixed the tooltip calculated odds because it actually seems to align with observed reality now. That or they fixed how attack and save rolls work so they work correctly.
>get to higher ground
>bless up the party
>apply accuracy oil to weapon
>get perks that boost chance to hit
>put more worms to brains to boost chance to hit
>get reactions that reroll attack roll
>get a weapon ability that deals damage even when it misses
>knock enemies off balance or prone etc.
You didn't play the game or you're just bad at it.
cause tedious set up for every fight is so much fun
if you enjoy dogshit grinding so much, go out and work instead of wasting time on the internet
>Noooo why isn’t the combat braindead, dumbed down, and lacking complexity! Wheres my win button?
Perhaps Call of Duty is more to your taste, unironically. Most RPGs require some level of setup for combat.
IT'S SIR
>One of the easiest CRPGs I've ever played
>Constant b***hing online
What the frick happened to you all?
I remember when we panned games for being trivially easy.
people say moronic things like
when entire fights like the swamp witch are based on what amounts to a gear check
More than half the difficult mobs in this game are immune to throw, shove, etc that would make actual high IQ plays or cheeses impossible anyway.
"High IQ plays" = shoving people into bottomless pits? You're an embarrassment LOL
>be high IQ
>deliberately ignore shove/thunder shit off the cliff because it is dumb mechanic that trivializes already piss easy game
>dumb hispanics think that showing people into pits is a height of ingenuity
I'm not above Hasting my frog though
>Ethel
>a gear check
more like a wizard check. 1 guy with magic missile trivializes her fight
>he uses a worthless spell instead of using examine like a non-moronic person
lol
lmao even
it prevents counter damage. If you're low level you don't oneshot her as easily.
>don't kill the clones
>they attack you and use hold person on you
Great job outing yourself as a moron
>gear check
more like a Silence check
Most people are horrendous at video games, legit mind breaking bad
Hard games that require skill or strategy = good.
Hard dice rolling games = stupid.
The game is so popular it attracted normies whose only "RPG" they played was Skyrim and The Witcher 3, even if BG3 is easy for a cRPG its much harder than that other slop.
What are you on about? Witcher 3 in Death March is 10 times harder than this game in Tactician.
Oh c'mon. Neither are hard but Witcher 3 was a cakewalk
95% of W3 enemies are powerless against you if you just repeat the cycle of attack-dodge-dodge, attack-dodge-dodge ad infinitum. Death March is no different.
Not everyone is a Dnd nerd homosexual. I realized second playthrough that the only things that matter are initiative and hit. If you literally start a fight the wrong way it's already over and you should just quick save to save 10+ minutes killing 6 goblins. This is the worst game I've ever played. I'd rather play real Dnd with actual trannies.
DnD can be played by literal 5 year olds
If you are having difficulty with the system, consider lobotomizing yourself since your brain is already dead
>This is the worst game I've ever played
>I realized second playthrough
Why would you play the worst game ever twice? Learn how to actually express your thoughts gay.
>If you literally start a fight the wrong way it's already over and you should just quick save to save 10+ minutes killing 6 goblins
lol this has happened to me so many times
>start a battle
>get some unlucky hits
>things start going to absolute shit
>game drags for minutes
>start getting bored
>load quicksave
>start battle again
>it's over in 2 minutes
Yeah Dex is a brokenly powerful stat and Initiative is very important. Going 2nd is always a huge disadvantage, combined with bad rolls will result in bad times.
bro BG3 was gen z's first CRPG.
Zoomies are helpless babies who can only watch while someone else fricks the game/plays their wife.
>I'm such a badass!
You sound like a homosexual
>guy just isn't moronic
>that alone is enough for you to feel threatened and imply he called himself a badass
lmao
no you don't, you're probably still in highschool. I'm gonna shit in you're mums c**t and make your dad clean it out
Reminder to troll tourists as hard as possible
>There's a (You) in every thread.
true
>stop rolling bad
shit advice is usually given out when someone is already too moronic to figure simple things out on their own.
>actually it's your fault I am a moron
go drown in the puddle, narcissus
>actually it's your fault my character sucks
lol
To be honest, this problem happened because of tabletop morons, originally AC was supposed to reflect the ability of the target to protect itself, so instead of miss it would be correct to say blocked/dodged, but since table morons do not like to delve into the nuances, everyone says miss to make it faster and easier, and avoid player and DM disputes.
I played it on easy with all my stats modded to 20. hehe
Build issue
But how do these morons even get build issues?
Every solo class is viable. So I have to ask: what the frick is going on?
Are they playing martials with 10str?
Ignoring loot?
Farsighted so they can't read the huge "% chance to hit" the game shows when you're about to hit someone?
How can you possibly be bad at this game??? HOW???
>roll dice
>get low number
>500 pound man waddles up
>"WOW HOW'D YOU DO THAT"
>How can you possibly be bad at this game??? HOW???
Melanin surplus
They are dumb animals who are to stupid to equip Arcane Tower staff to Shadowheart and press Bless every fight
>random dice rolls are a skill
inb4 hurr you can boost the numbers a little
>a little
Black person you don't even understand 5e and thats a piss easy system.
you don't even understand 5e and thats a piss easy system.
RAW DND doesn't have critical fails/passes for skill checks, having +12 on a reasonable check and failing 5% of the time isn't dnd
>RAW DND doesn't have critical fails/passes for skill checks,
Its an optional rule most people use
>most people
No, they don't.
I also don't like it but most people use it
Anon
my lock has 99% chance to hit(95% plus advantage)
and then, if I wanted to, I can also get a reroll on failure to boost my chance to hit to 9999/10000
in this game failure to hit is purely optional
unless you are dumb moron who can't understand how numbers work
This. If anyone has more than 1 melee character that staff is BIS for a cleric all game. Then you pile on attack+ items and take precision attack if battlemaster. The brainlets that are missing all the time are probably prioritising 1d4 fire damage or some shit over attack.
Doesn't that staff only work with 2d4 for mages and everyone else still gets only 1d4?
standard bless is 1d4
with this is 2d4, 3d4 for spells
on average this means that you get +5/+7.5 to hit
which translates to +25/37.5% to hit
also I think that buff remains even if Bless gets removed due to counteraction breaking, but I'm not sure since I got War Caster on Shadowheart like a normal person
>staff
>shadowheart
I can't find the heart to separate her from Selune's legendary spear.
she does look good with a spear and a round shield, i'll give you that. but the legendary mace is just too good
This. As long as she holds the legendary mace (i.e. my dick) Shadowheart can stay in my party.
but I have the lathander mace on her for big dam and QOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Way to out yourself as talking out of your ass.
This pretty much. All the staff actually does is add 1d4 to spell attack rolls. Check the combat logs.
Is this buffed bless better than using concentration on Haste?
Some people spent their youth having sex and not playing tabletop games in their parent's basement
>doood I was partying hard and bagging so many chicks, that's why I can't follow simple instructions or read
mcdonalds lifer
tabletop games are social activities you absolute fricking moron
no wonder you can't hit in this piss easy game, you have actual brain damage
>social activities
Yeah, with other pathetic virgins
>...and that's why I'm posting on Ganker - video games on the weekend
weak bait
Yeah, I'm old now, what's your excuse?
I’m not him but tbf I am lying next to my gf whilst posting on Ganker so you can do both
Dw anon, your crafty plan worked
I'll acknowledge the fact you have a gf, even if all these other (probably just jealous) losers won't
Sure, she's probably quite fat, fairly plain or even ugly and rejected by every actually attractive male she pursued before she met you, but hey, that's great buddy
Pic is goals for your next gf, assuming you're able to upgrade
anon, i know that this might be hard for you to understand
but not everyone is a complete fricking loser
>OP is too stupid to play a game that has already been dumbed down in comparison to rest of the series for the sake of Black folk
OP, you are basically saying that you are dumber than a Black person. Literally the biggest self own in history.
skill issue
>even normal gays can figure this game out
didn't know Ganker's intelligence was at an all time low
I’ve never played any of the previous titles. I’ve never played anything to do with dungeons and dragons ever in my life and know little to nothing about it.
Will I still be able to play and enjoy this game?
Let me see your stat allocation scrub.
All you do is turn karmic dice off and then stack attack/spell dc items. the karmic dice system actually works against you when you're starting to get good gear because it also benefits enemies.
that is really fricking annoying. i've taken to save scumming because of it
Just downloaded this game. I want to learn speak with animals ASAP but I'm not sure how D&D classes work.
What class is beginner friendly? I wanna pick druid or a magic class but I'm having trouble deciding. Can you multiclass? I assume none of that or even the build matters if you go through the easiest difficulty the first time right?
you can multiclass, you can respec at any point for 100 gold (nothin) so feel free to fug around and not feel like it'll ruin your character, druid imo isn't the most beginner friendly but I also hate druid in general so I might be bias. You also get two druid companions.
Ranger is pretty beginner friendly and you can get talk to animals right away if you want that.
You generally want to get Charisma class (so paladin, bard, sorcerer or warlock) because you will be the face of the party. You can multiclass easily, but you can also play pure if you want, game is easy enough that you don't need to be that efficient. At any point you can fully respect for basically free so don't worry too much about what you do.
>You generally want to get Charisma class (so paladin, bard, sorcerer or warlock)
I forgot about this because I'm on my murderhobo playthrough now. I guess talking to people or whatever is good if you aren't going to be chopping their heads off
You mean I can completely change my class at anytime or just change stats?
I'm definitely picking dragonborn race though. Which of Sorcerer or Warlock is more fun? I might just pick ranger though. Does each class have a sub class?
you can completely relevel your character from level 1. you can also multiclass in process if you want
dragonborn is pretty bad, although it does look nice
I didn't play sorc so I can't tell, but warlock is pretty fun
You can change your class and stats. Just not your race.
Sorc and Warlock are both popular and fun. You probably won't go wrong with either. They're probably a better choice than ranger for the charisma main stat so you can be the party face
Sorc has sub classes:
Dragon Ancestry (basically boosts an elemental type), wild magic (random effects when you cast spells, can be good or bad), and storm sorc. Storm sorc is all lightning/thunder based. I played storm sorc my first time and enjoyed it a lot
Warlock can pick a different patron, ie great old one, fiend, archfey, which is basically subclass. You get different spells n stuff.
I'm assuming just because you pick a magic classe you aren't limited to to staves and have more options then that? Do spells require turns or materials to charge up? Do materials respawn?
One more thing, how much of a time limit am I on?
>I'm assuming just because you pick a magic classe you aren't limited to to staves and have more options then that?
You can equip other weapons but staves give you magic related boni so you will usually run them even if other weapons are possible
>Do spells require turns or materials to charge up?
No they are cast instantly and only need an action to cast, some spells fall under the concentration category those spells are cast instantly as well but persist into future rounds as long as your concentration isn't broken
>Do materials respawn?
No materials needed
>One more thing, how much of a time limit am I on?
None
Play on tactician or you'll die of boredom once you reach the halfway point. Even on tactician the game is easy as frick after about level 3-4. You can also respec practically for free. No class is any less or more complicated than another, besides some having multiple spells but then you just have to read.
I don't think the game lets you multi-class on the lowest difficulty. You can change difficulty mid-game, and there's nothing wrong with a pure class, the game should be able to easy to beat with enough creativity/back tracking.
There are also potions and scrolls that let anyone speak with animals for a full ingame day.
just make sure you have a rogue with high perception in the party because there's 2 billion traps and locks in this fricking game
kek, zoomers
Those didn't give you a single perception check which can critically fail, and they also paused the game or halted your character on detection.
Traps aren't really a danger at any point in BG3 but they were still handled terribly.
>HEHEHE I POST OLD GAEM SCREENSHOT IM SUCH A BOOMAH
consider suicide
Warlocks can take speak with animals at level 2/3 IIRC, they're a solid class all round with decent martial and casting ability if you build them right. Also good in conversation thanks to using CHA as their casting modifier.
git gud
You know nothing about missing attacks
Doesn't matter when you have 10+ attacks per round and +80 to hit thougheveralbeit
also warlock can get talk to the animal at level two
you don't sacrifice much by getting it
>filtered
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The problem is BG 1 and 2 were realtime, so misses only lasted seconds, not an antire frickign round. Im baffled why they didnt do realtime in 3.
Because they just copied the combat from dos2 since they're lazy
DOS2 has a very different combat. Since movement and skills both use "action points", it heavily favors long ranged characters like casters and rangers. BG3 has movement, action and bonus action as their own separate things, and it makes melee more viable as an option.
>very different combat.
All I see is that they turned off the "magic = OP" button from dos2 and turn on the "melee = OP" button instead.
The feel of the combat is the same and it feels different than other turn based like pathfinder
You're just plain wrong, buddy. DOS and its sequel relied heavily on elements and their synergy. You were constantly trying to create surfaces and conditions (ex. wet enemies taking more electric damage). BG3 is much more about traditional damage dealing until enemy HP runs out
>other turn based like pathfinder
Pathfinder doesn't have functional turn based mode, it has a cheat mode that is essentially "turn based rtwp" where you get all the benefits of turn based in a game balanced for rtwp.
Our boy has you covered:
>fextra
They can go frick themselves.
Also reminder to use the good wiki if you look something up
https://bg3.wiki/
your "good" wiki has half the info fextra does. both wikis are unfinished mess, so you have to use both
>new patch breaks the game
Thanks, Larian. I have nobody but myself to blame, though, I should have known better and just waited for the enhanced edition.
>>new patch breaks the game
How?
igMISS
How do you miss that much with out not knowing how to distribute stats?
Video games are a hobby to me, not my life
You literally need no skills other than being able to read and add numbers.
You just might be moronic if you haven't figured out how to have permanent 90+% hit chance by level 5.
Who else /corpsemountain/
Death in numbers, death in droves
skill issue
Use Bless, use height advantage, use stealth advantage, use CC
you have so many abilities at your disposal to give yourself an edge but instead you choose unga bunga fighter attack with sword every turn and wonder why you cant do shit
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
Skill issue
You should have picked Time Wizard, you get special abilities bound to F5 and F8.
This only happens in the intro if you're trying to hit the general. After that its purely a skill issue with your build.
what's the best class for hand crossbows without dips or multiclassing
Is there anyway to stop party members giving you really rare stuff when you take them out of the party? I got the cool misty step boots from Nere so I gave them to Astarion but every time he leaves the party he unequips them
Shadowheart firebolt uses INT and her INT sucks stop using it
How can you tell what stat a spell scales with?
It tells you. Look at the skill.
You've gotta love that the game really is the most accurate DnD vidya ever because the players still can't fricking read.
You have a 65% chance to hit most things, how are you missing so much?
he is probably underleveled and gimped his build cus moronation
It's probably a joke OP, but a lot of people don't understand the core systems because they don't read any of the tool tips.
That's fair. I've watched a lot of streams and I am consistently in awe of how stupid people are.
Not my problem.
basudo
How much of a fricking moron you have to be to miss consistently in 5e?
Its great when it happens to the enemies
Do people not right-click enemies to examine them?
You don't even need to do that, just hover over them and press T.
Play better games instead of Bald Troon's Gape
But enough about Morrowind.
If BG3 has any problems its
>the abrupt downturn in writing after Act 2
>no way to know if you are stat capped, so you are just stacking hit chance like a monkey rather than truly optimizing
>melee has no reason to exist and is about as effectual as if you tried to use a sword in modern day Ukraine
>an embarrassing amount of bugs even after an open beta and several huge patches
>melee has no reason to exist
What are you talking about? Str Monk is literally the highest consistent damage and Pally is the highest burst in the game and barbarians are just fun.
brainlet detected
my wizard has 33ac and 100% chance to hit with hold person/monster even on bosses
>my wizard has 33ac
how did you manage? lvl 6 shield?
mage armor + a couple other items that increase unarmoured AC, mirror image, haste
>but you can't self cast haste AND use hold person/monster
true, so I either have another party member do it, use a speed potion or god forbid I can forgo the 2AC and have 31 instead, potentially using my reaction to cast shield and go up to 36 if someone tries slapping me regardless
some races have build in medium armor proficiencies, there are also elixirs and medium armors that can apply your DEX bonus
>there are also elixirs and medium armors that can apply your DEX bonus
i gave that one to astarion. a wizard is gonna be casting control spells or aoe spells most of the time anyway, so he won't have any need for high dex in the first place
>65% chance to hit with a spell
>cast it 5 time
>resisted every single time
i guess if the hit chance is not 100% it might as well be zero
>what is advantage
Ganker is moronic
What kind of moron willingly becomes a bhaal cultist?
>KEKED
>KEKED
>KEKED
>KEKED
>KEKED
amazing how buckbroken chuds are by bg3. statistically its impossible for them to be this ass-savaged but, alas, they are
I use my level 6 spell slots on my second caster on create water so my sorcerer can just oneshot everything with chain lightning
>20 Str
>use a finesse weapon
>can't hit shit
srsly?
Str works with finesse weapons, moron.
>cast hold person on dolor
>it hits for once
>next turn hold person magically disappears
i love railroading
How do you frick up your build this bad?
>dude just build your dice better!
>doing last light fight
>cast flaming sphere
>some npcs are directly below Isobel's room and are considered out of combat so they slowly cook to death every 10 seconds
Same thing happened to me with Cloud Of Daggers. The counsellor kept getting sliced up downstairs and by the time the fight was over, the room was almost entirely covered in blood.
Do you guys have Karmic dice active in the options?
Because holy shit those stories sound unreal.
Is Karmic dice bad? I've been using it so far, and haven't really had any troubles with combat
Well if you are very lucky it will force some bad rolls and if you are very unlucky it will force some good rolls
The idea is to sort of emulate a GM going easy or harder on you.
Problem is I think a lot of people have it active and savescum
Which means they reach a point where the dice desperately try to make you unlucky
Or people go by gut feeling which is always that you are treated unfairly compared to the opponent
Fighter hitting caster here. Nah, I turned that off early in Act 1. Sometimes you just get cursed and it stands out among the 100 hrs youve played.
karmic dice expressly prevents this type of scenario from happening to you but also stops it from happening for you
not if you savescum
miss ME with that homosexual safe-horny reddit shit
You're playing it wrong. That's how it's done
>MISS
>RELOAD
>MISS
>RELOAD
>MISS
>RELOAD
>HIT
>SAVE
>MISS
>RELOAD
>HIT
>SAVE
>HIT
>SAVE
>not fishing for critical strikes exclusively
NGMI
yikes
if you're not gonna play why even open the game?
>Magic missle is a guaranteed hit.
>Bless gives advantage on everything else.
>AoE spells still do half damage with a successful saving throw.
>The game shits OP magical gear at you from the first dungeon.
>Illithid powers give you free damage, crits, defence, and heals.
There are three difficult fights in the entire game if you're going in blind and one if you're not, that the frick are you guys doing?
>using illithid powers
You didn't beat the game.
>There are three difficult fights in the entire game
Which fights do you consider difficult?
The githyanki at the bridge is the only one I has a genuinely hard time with.
Nere was difficult because everyone got launched into lava on my first playthrough but was easy after that.
The one against the winged guy in last light isn't technically difficult but your fricked if Isobel gets raped in a single turn before your cleric can heal her.
These are the kinds of people complaining about never being able to hit enemies.
Advantage and disadvantage is not a hard concept. I guarantee you these are 3.5e grognards who think 5e is "too stupid"
gives advantage
the game is okay but I'll stick to my live D&D sessions. Something about having a DM is nice.
Especially when medieval tyrone and his good boys try to rob you and you find yourself in a sticky situation.
How does a social recluse find a dnd group?
first of all don't play dnd. there are countless better systems and settings out there that are not filled to the brim with critial shit tertiaries and trannies to boot
>there are countless better systems
That no one plays. Seriously, no one wants to play your shitty low-fantasy GURPS system. I have tried.
>gurps
if that the only other system you know, then the problem is (you)
The problem is no one wants to play some shitty system they haven't heard of. But you're too much of a stupid homosexual to comprehend what someone posts.
>no one wants to play some shitty system they haven't heard of
why would you want to play with dnd tertiaries, mate?
Why are you a no games?
Pretty much the worst advice possible. You use D&D as a gateway to meet people, THEN you weed out the undesirables and form a group for your not D&D game. Having a good group is what matters most.
t. has done this multiple times
the kind of people that play dnd i don't want to meet
Yeah we call you PS3 cause you have no games.
People hate the games they play with you and only like you and stomach them for you
t. person who played a stupid dragon age rpg with someone who absolutely hated d20 and just wanted to play 3D6
Nice projection, you really are a miserable c**t. We've rotated all types of systems and have openly said when we haven't liked them. Get some real friends.
>Nice projection
What a homosexual post when your entire argument in the first place was projecting your experience on others
I know your friends hate the games you make them play so take it as a compliment that they like you enough to stomach them
Maybe, but nobody plays them. I seriously doubt you have a group that plays anything besides D&D and maybe vampire.
the best option would be to make friends some other way and then start a dnd group with them
no, really.
everyone I have ever met just to do a dnd group with them has been insufferable and every game that I just started with my friends who had 0 expectations and never played PF or watched Critical Role was 100% better because you can set the expectations yourself.
>Play Wildheart Barbarian 6/Monk 2/Champion Fighter 4 w/ Tavernbrawler
>bleed opponents
>do 2.5x Str to damage each punch
>action surge for extra when needed
>simply delete enemies
Compared to Owlcat CRPGs on higher difficulty this game is completely braindead. Just punch and they die.
Pathfinder is
>just buff and they die
It's more of a knowledge check than actual difficulty, not saying bg 3 is harder but still.
Forget the shitty ass dice roll gameplay, this story is dog shit
>playing the designated bad guy dragon guy
>my goal is to be an awful man and twist the game's story into the worst possible hell
>enter the ass prism and talk to my guardian who I made a Black person because it's funny
>the give me a fitting speech about how I did nothing they asked me to
>they hand me a sword to kill them
>this would doom me and my party members and the world apparently
>take sword, stab them dramatically
>character just tells me I'm not trustworthy and continues the script
>I know they continue the script and nothing changes because I loaded a save, roleplayed as the exact opposite of everything I did so far (a good guy) and he said all the same things
>this has no repercussions whatsoever
Even New Vegas, a 12 year old game, had the decency to feed you a hilarious bad guy ending slide (or an entire ending if you become a legionnaire.) We went from obligatory "you fricked up moron" to... literally nothing. And this is after including a bunch of senseless, violent, psychotic ingame choices like kicking a squirrel into a tree. What a tease.
lmao did you actually get any further in the game yet?
that b***h is gaslighting you the entire game so not doing what she says is actually goodguy stuff
This game does have a hilarious bad guy ending slide. You also could've gotten a complete game over when you were interacting with the Gith queen prior to entering the vessel.
boy wait until you get to the end of act 2
poz
People complain about missing attacks constantly when they're less than 30 hours into the game. I know because I've been there. Once you get past 30 hours you realize there are around 600 other things that piss you off much more. I cannot believe that anyone rated this game a 10/10 and finished it. Another case of reviewers shilling the frick out of a game they never beat, and twitter/reddit shilling the game because they think with their dicks. No fricking way is a game this buggy, unfinished, imbalanced, and repetitive a 10/10.
Iron Throne and House of Hope are two of the best dungeons in the game, however the disjointed nature of Act 3 does make the end feel off.
>all enemies focus on Shart because she is the healer and sorcerer
>if I am outnumbered this means any heals or spells have to be spent on herself
>if I dont do this she gets hit by 12 fireballs and dies before it's even her turn
>when I do this my teammates have to be able to kill the entire enemy party in 2 turns or they'll be fighting enemies who teleport and shoot 12 fireballs
>all this because I am not playing a spellcaster with the 3 other spellcasters in this RPG where you must be a wizard or else battles are torture
Name a single fight against 12 fricking wizards. Also, armor your fricking cleric, they’re targeting her because her AC is low.
12 wizards, as if mobs dont attack 2-3 times each in the late game
you are undoubtedly one of the larian dicksuckers defending this tripe all thread
loving every laugh
Anon I’ve literally never lost a battle with a half and half martial/caster party. Wizards have some of the lowest action economy in the game, spellcasters in general get one big spell a turn period. Have you even played?
Which fight are you specifically talking about anon? We've played the game there is no reason to be vague, unless you are making up the scenario which you are.
gith queen is a textbook example
that room is filled with buff robots and a tank so if you arent minmaxing with shit you got off google it's over
the entire area leading up to her is hostile as well (including astral plane) so you cant camp/respec
>NOOOOO WHY DIDNT YOU JUST DO EVERYTHING PERFECTLY
if the game is that binary and you must do x,y,z then its not a very good game period
also enjoy that save fail bug thanks to the latest patch
larian dicksuckers, lmfao
Why didn't you just do everything perfectly? The game isn't hard, I mastered it in 5 minutes and I don't even know what a computer is.
My guy just kill the small ones and then the big one. I went in blind on tactician with a fighter, a cleric, a sorcerer, and a rogue. If you fight stupid you die stupid, stupid.
Way to ignore the issue. Even if the party spec is the problem you can't fix that throughout the entire creche.
There is no problem party spec. You have mountains of potions and scrolls.
And the creche was hostile to you? Did you not think you might want to bring your Gith as an ambassador to a blatantly hostile race?
I brought Laezel with me and ended up slaughtering them all anyway. It really doesnt matter.
Oh I know that's how it'll playout regardless but I'm just noticing the things anon fricked up.
You didn't think about the situation in the context of the game and yet think you actually want to roleplay?
The game, sometimes, behaves differently based on logical shit and you are complaining about it.
>the game sometimes requires exact things but you still have the freedom to roleplay and stuff bro
moronic. If you're going to keep replying to me then include a compliment with each one. Otherwise no more replies for you.
>requires
Talk good, bring a gith, or kill your way in. You have three easy options and you’re angry you can’t do any of them moron.
That's fine we've reached the point where you are arguing that having to think logically or understand the game mechanics is min/maxing bullshit or a puzzle game.
>umm akchyully the party member is mandatory so
Stop posting moron. If this is a puzzle game where you must have a perfect party and can't roleplay as anything because it's not only non-optimal but borderline impossible, then it's not an RPG.
You can murder your way in and out trivially but your ass apparently cannot manage.
You can into the middle of a base full of stuck up murderers and didn't think to bring the one person who would stop them from immediately attacking you? Did the into cutscene with the cultists getting kidnapped and killed not tell you that this would be a bad idea?
>And the creche was hostile to you?
the creche is always hostile after you talk to the goddess
you cant just sneak out either because they lock the door
either you win that fight with the party you made or you dont and you start the game over
then people wonder why the game is frustrating
>he literally can’t win the fight
Genuinely pathetic.
thanks for proving me right in
pic is you
>nooo this video game… too hard!
Literally made to be beaten by any party setup and you still can’t.
you're just shit man
before I even went in the creche I explored the monastery top to bottom and find everything
everyone had a blessing the entire time giving them extra radiant damage
when I fought the inquisitor my monk flurry toppled him first turn and LaeZel smoked him with her 2 attacks the first turn.
frick man what level were you when you went to the pass?
and you ignored the warning that you should try the underdark instead because it would be easier?
do you just ignore shit? not look around for paths and items when the game gives you a point of no return warning? I had laezel and shart decked out in adamantine armor before I even got to the pass
samegay
yes i know you'll go boot up mspaint, advertisers are inherently duplicitous
this is assuming you arent just an aggressive contrarian with aspd
You're right, anon. You found the conspiracy. And the conspiracy extends so deeply, that any posts about the creche and it's difficulty are purged. Notice how literally no one else on the planet except you has this problem? There are no posts about it?
Well actually.. they do. But we have ways of quieting them. Making sure they stay quiet. Making sure that the narrative is the game is joke-tier easy
That way people like you, can get to the creche, and be demoralized, when it is literally impossible for you to beat an encounter I beat so quickly and easily I barely even remember what you're talking about
You better stay quiet about this. You keep your mouth yapping and revealing our secrets.. we might have to take more drastic action.
>assuming you arent just an aggressive contrarian with aspd
mystery solved, freak
stay on the internet and away from decent people
Not him but the githyanki gauntlet part is very frustrating if you don't have a save just before it. The autosave will make you one but that's easy to overwrite since people seem to do things like
just to avoid rolls making the game immediately harder. Fact is if you lose too hard in that room suddenly you're left with less than half a party, nowhere to rest, can't port out and you are forced to engage big warbands. If invis potions didn't exist it would be exactly as bad as the Shar gauntlet.
>if you run into a hostile area with no resources and no saves you might frick yourself
ok?
if I run out into the middle of the open in an FPS game I am likely to get shot by other players
Situation is made up anyway. What do you mean "left with half a party and no where to rest"?
Use your 20 ressurect scrolls( why did people die?) and potions to heal up.
Again, you also should have 5000 scrolls offering billions of solutions. There's explosive barrels around, isn't there?
Try playing the videogame and you might succeed at the videogame.
please post your character sheets anon we really need the laugh
please show us you stumbled you way there at level 3 or some shit with an all caster party or something I'll apologize for making fun of you
Odd numbered stats everywhere. Charisma up to 18 on his MC Fighter because of course people have to like me. What do you mean I'm preforming poorly in combat? What kinda RPG is this where I can't do whatever I want and have it always work out.
People are too used to MMO rpg defaults
I was playing this with a friend and he asked me if he should make a tank, healer or dd
It's understandable that that is the mindset going in but it shouldn't be too bad if your friend is open to learning. If he does want to make a tank teach him about Sentinel and Polearm Mastery feats
I just explained that DnD has different roles like Face and Scout
But not everyone has someone experienced with DnD around to play this so I would not be surprised if people fall on their face trying to make a tank
Good way to recontextualize it and yeah I offered tank because it is such an obvious idea, I want a big guy to cover my weak guys, but 5e really really doesn't support it.
The irony of shitting on JRPGs when they demand this exact same level of precision autism. Some earlier said BG3 is basically a puzzle game and that seems to be the case if the grognards here are to be believed. Even the guys arguing about tabletop campaigns acknowledge if the party fricks up that bad he'll just kill them and either let them start fresh or roll them back.
It's not a hostile area. Someone mentioned they kill Absolute cultists so unless you agreed to get the brand and stuff it's simple to decide they won't attack you. This is doubled if you talk your way in, engage the merchant, etc. only to realize you're scripted to fight your way out of the whole tower after the plot beat. The game very deliberately baits you into a bad position and unless you've been doing something like buying invis potions you're simply stuck in a bad place, unless you have learned absolutely everything in the game by the second area.
I wish I could say I don't understand how (You) don't understand how that sequence can be frustrating, but /tg/ is a shitty place and I'm familiar with the cantankerous overlards who occupy it.
I'm aware of how the creche plays out but that specific anon was talking about it being hostile the entire time and I was pointing out the logically solution to that point.
What the frick? I beat the inquisitor and exited the commander's office, then I was able to teleport away without fighting anyone else. I already killed the kith'rak and a few guards before, to be able to enter the inquisitor area at all.
You can also teleport directly outside the creche if you find the Blood of Lathander which is in the inquisitor room
Why do people have problems with this?
>I already killed the kith'rak and a few guards before, to be able to enter the inquisitor area at all.
That's why. The roll to be non-hostile on your way to that room isn't high at all. The last big area even slightly similar to this (goblin camp) doesn't require you to fight your way out unless you deliberately go and kill their leaders. Even freeing Halsin doesn't automatically make the entire way out hostile. Someone in this thread even said something like "just use your own gith to enter without issue" when that creates the exact same problem.
>enter tower
>has a merchant, etc.
>characters are rude but not hostile
>talk to god
>talk to rubix cube guardian
>high inquisitor homosexual cannot be talked down in any way whatsoever
>must now do a boss battle
>cant go back to camp after so your party better be well optimized or it's a softlock
Part of a game offering so much freedom is the freedom to get completely stuck. If people are going to defend this game they need to accept it's just as easy to accidentally frick up as accidentally make the perfect party to blitz all the game's content.
You are completely correct and I can understand that it can put the player in a very bad situation and people will find that frustrating, but I also like that the game does this because it creates a hard scenario that can catch you offguard.
>cant go back to camp after so your party better be well optimized or it's a softlock
You can leave the room and have another fight (where the kids are training) and then you can camp. You kept going forward with the mission rather than leave the hostile area marked in red to recover.
I get it but you still haven't deigned us worthy to know what fricking level your characters were yet or what your comp was not to mention you always had the option to simply not go there
Different anon I imagine to the guy who started this chain of thought. Notice how that person actually has a thought and is able to articulate it? Couldn't possibly be
Fair enough that fight is actually hard and can go badly many different ways, but you probably don't know the systems at play if you think the game requires min/maxing. What do your character's stat blocks look like?
Unless "knowing how the game works" counts as min/maxing, we can stop the conversation here.
haha wait are you guys talking about the mountain pass creche in the dawn temple? or is there a later one? i'm only at shar's trial.
>armor your fricking cleric, they’re targeting her because her AC is low
Her default armor is like 14 AC
Shart is my most heavily armored unit in the game. She has a shield, for fricks sake.
If you're not stealing the Half-Plate from the Blacksmith in the Druid Grove and Giving it to Shadowheart so she has 18 AC you're a fricking moron.
14 AC is low AC dumbass
Works on my machine
>trickery domain
Why is this subclass even available? It’s like the entire purpose is to badly make everyone else rogues.
It works a lot better if you respec Shadowheart as a thief 8/Trickery Cleric 4 with appropriate Dex and Con
it's for marvel fujos obsessed with loki when they trying to pick their god
which boss you're referring to
>20 years later
>Ganker still getting filtered by crpg mechanics
>Magic Missiles
>Get magic item that gives +1 missile
This spell is stupid good. Is it this good in tabletop too?
It's one of the most beloved spells in the tabletop. It's better in D & D in fact for the ability to frick over spell caster who use mirror image.
It and Shield are pretty much the only lvl 1's that hold up all game for the specific things they do.
Being able to see what creatures health is actually at is even more powerful.
I didn't like the game the first ay or two I played with a friend but it gets much better at like level 5.
>fine, I'll just use Guiding Bolt so that I'm less likely to miss
>guiding bolt misses
>guiding bolt
>less likely to miss
in comparison to what? Sacred Flame? Sacred flame will always hit if you use it on the right targets.
he means "I will do guiding bolt so my other attacks will get advantage"
even though there's like tons of easier ways to get advantage that don't use spell slots
What the frick are you talking about that? Guiding Bolt gives your party members Advantage, if it can hit.
>using GB for that
wew
It was mostly just a joke, but I bet at least 80% of people who played this game had that experience at some point, just because of what the game gives you at the start.
I meant I will use Shadowheart to cast guiding bolt so my guy is less likely to miss
And then guiding bolt misses
I'm mostly just memeing though, game is easy as frick if you rub 2 neurons together. Some of these people would die if they tried WotR
Hunger of hadar is so fricking good.
Its just a gambling porn game for nerds, thats it. If you played Texas Hold'em while getting your dick sucked, that's what BG3 is, only there's a fairy tale on top of it. So imagine the prostitute sucking your wiener agreed to dress like a Disney princess and role-play. Thats BG3.
Sounds pretty nice?
you could give me a completely randomly generated party, completely random classes, even make them randomly multiclass into nonsense, and as long as I have the items and scrolls you acquire by that point in the game, I will never, ever even slightly struggle in the creche
This is a you problem, and I'm not even trying to insult you, just play some more trying different stuff instead of getting frustrated and mad. I promise you there are solutions to your problems if you look for them.
Is there any class that I can mix with my bard? I know 5e is not that versatile, but maybe there is a combination that I do not know of.
2 levels in warlock are pretty good. You get to add your charisma bonus to eldritch blast and it can optionally move people
And eldritch blast itself scales with level and not warlock levels so if you are level 3 bard and 2 warlock you get the level 5 version of eldritch blast
Bard and Warlock are fun, bard and pally is pretty good if you go college of sword.
I actually want to do a all bard playthrough because you can multiclass into having a frontliner, dex and double full caster easily.
>Always has advantage
>Crits on 19
>Cant be disarmed
Oh no i missed my 98% hit chance
>Reckless attack
If you actually manage to somehow softlock yourself in this game, you deserve it because that is an incredible feat and accomplishment. I really don't know how I'd do it if I tried, other than just literally deleting every item I found along the way, never leveling up, etc.
Time to start over. Leave tooltips on this time.
>If you actually manage to somehow softlock yourself in this game, you deserve it
Okay great but the game isn't well-designed then.
It is, given literally no one but you had this problem.
>entire thread full of complaining about game mechanics
>other threads complaining about game mechanics
>people who dont know tabletop totally miss things or get themselves stuck
>people who do know tabletop think 5e is for babies
Amazingly this game occupies an awkward middle place where it consistently fails to be pleasing. The 10/10 scores do feel very paid by the way. Larian Tencent poster did nothing wrong.
I notice how you cut this part off of my quote:
" because that is an incredible feat and accomplishment. I really don't know how I'd do it if I tried, other than just literally deleting every item I found along the way, never leveling up, etc."
It's interesting you cut that part out of my quote because all of that could basically be summarized as: The game is designed in such a way that it is impossible to frick up this badly.
Just kind of a fun little silly thing how you cut out the part of my quote that completely destroys your point, so that you can make your point. Fun and silly hehe
>The game is designed in such a way that it is impossible to frick up this badly.
I mean you're just a homosexual really. I remember back in the day /tg/ was full of people like you who insist every game is easy if only they were 300 IQ geniuses like you. You insulting anybody is like being insulted by someone with a full diaper and a propeller hat.
I dont even know how it would be possible. The only time I had an issue was in Act 3 when I-..my character blackmailed Arfur rather than kill him or whatever so the quest didn't update as having done anything and the only way to complete it is by nuking the fireworks store but the journal doesnt really give you such indications
>got to tiefling party
>could only "think about Shadowheart"
>no wine scene
FRICK BROS, DID I FRICK IT UP?!
I don't wanna reload 10+ hours to see what the frick I did wrong. Is it because I already triggered the wine scene with her?
Every single time we get a game that actually demands that you build competent characters to be competent. Endless complaints like yours pop up. Every time.
>haha he didn't even know that this dnd illusion of builds is complete fake and there only ONE meta build for class you should follow
Don't forget the spells clearly designed to do something that don't actually do anything.
>take illusion
>you can throw a cat illusion somewhere and the enemy will look at it
>this makes their vision cone stare at it for a little whole so you can sneak past
>simple enough
>try that
>enemy jogs over to it for 1 second
>immediately turns around because Astarion is actually terrible at stealth
I swear the people whining about casuals not optimizing don't realize nearly everything in this game is broken. It either flat out doesn't work or is overtuned completely.
I feel like a wuss when I don't play a frontline main character, like I should be in the front, defending my waifus, right?
>I should be in the front, defending my waifus, right?
Yes.
That's why I made my character a Constitution Barbarian even though Constitution isn't exactly the best stat.
But it does indeed make him tankier. And taking all the hits while giving my wives advantage rolls in battle feels good.
>add mirror to change looks
>make it not work on the minions you get from Withers
WHY LARIAN? WHY?
>meet jaheira at the bottom of moonrise
>shes at 2 health
>throw a good potion at her
>she dodges it
>throws potion at her
>if it had hit it would've killed her before the healing went through
>she's an NPC so she would be dead dead.
potions do damage when thrown?
If they do, I never noticed. I threw potions for the whole game, iirc even when allies were at 1 health
On direct hits they do.
Never ever let NPCs go anywhere alone if you actually want them to live.
My friend outright killed me in a multiplayer game by throwing a healing potion directly at my downed character while having the feat that boosts thrown object damage
healing potions and acid vials look identical how was she supposed to know when she's bleeding profusely and it's being thrown at her at 80mph
typical granny excuses
Someone post that image
I wish Larian did more to like, larian-ify the underpowered/boring classes from 5e like Eldritch Knight and Champion, Monk is SO fricking fun and that's only because they made it different from 5e.
is the college of swords dual hand xbow theif dip class even any good? damage looks like it probably stagnates prior to act 3
Nah the damage is solid. Stack up some of the israeliteelry like caustic band to add some more damage. Special hand crossbows are pretty good, moonrise towers merchant has one that adds force damage, temple demon has one that can add fire damage and burn, and the grymforge has one that adds more damage if they're burning. I do five levels in ranger for archery fighting style and extra attack, three levels into rogue for thief bonus action, and three into college of sword bard for flourish.
Oh and sharpshooter feat can stack more damage too
Im utterly fricking sick of dicerolls after 150 hours of playtime. Why can I not brute force open a lock with like 3 lockpicks or something, I dont want to sit through this annoying fricking animation over and over
Have you considered hitting it with a big fricking club?
>sacrifice half health to revive someone
>they stay dead
wtf useless tadpole
The biggest problem with this game is that clicking on your character icons in turn order while having an attack queued with another character will cause your party to attack itself without any confirmation screen.
This just immediately forces a reload
Yes if you select the attack option and pick your own guy they will attack them, I absolutely have done this as well, but I'm not sure if that is the biggest problem.
It's just the most annoying one to me tbh, the actual biggest problem is the disparity of content on the evil route unless you're doing durge
hope you guys are playing with the Let There Be Tooltips guy's mod installed
Only mod I have installed is Artificer, which should come in as a standard class in every future DnD game regardless of the world its set in
How balanced is it? I like the idea of being a special donut steel OC with a gun but I still want to feel like I'm fighting.
Every subclass feels strong except alchemist. Armorer is easily the best tank
>just roll better