Modern day Square Enix is like seeing your best friend in high school become a homeless drug addict. It's just sad.
Modern day Square Enix is like seeing your best friend in high school become a homeless drug addict. It's just sad.
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yes
>blockchain games
what a future trainwreck is this ?
there are no more young coders and artists swaying CEOs with their brilliance creating decades long IPs- and all of the veterans have left or retired. So now theres nobody left to rein in Shinji's dad and stop him from fucking up the company with businessman instrumentality due to lack of actual good game ideas.
Square Enix was always a fucking trainwreck, they just had actual profitable projects and auteur designers.
>cancel everything in favour of milking FF
>warp FF so hard you end up in 2023 canceling a FFVII mobile BR after 12 months
>shit yourself because youve got nothing else but FF anymore
The only one left is Nomura now.
Well, at least they will go down with style.
CARLOS
I think it's more like in the early days the execs. had no clue what games even were so they let the designers do everything. Now the people with the money all suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect. They don't know enough about technology to understand that they don't actually know anything about technology.
yeah precisely, and now theyve seen what "makes money" they want to implement things that "make money" instead of actual facets of game design to make projects cohesive.
people would froth for a new Parasite Eve but Matsumore Moneyshima would force NFTs and MTX into the bitch and cripple it
>there are no more young coders and artists swaying CEOs with their brilliance creating decades long IPs-
There are absolutely hundreds of young, talented gamedevs out there you fucking retard. The issue is that neither corporate Japan nor corporate America want to touch them. Japan's retarded views on seniority and America's need to always take the safest bet possible means the vast majority of the actual talent in the industry is stuck toiling away at no-budget indie games or working some dead-end job to make ends meet.
thats specifically what i said by them not swaying CEOs, try thinking about the statement before you fart in your seat from anger
>There are absolutely hundreds of young, talented gamedevs out there you fucking retard.
no there really aren't. we gave that one a go with crowdfunding and it turned out there were maybe only 4 or 5 groups around the world that could actually deliver quality during the 2010s. If there are more talented gamedevs who can actually produce an independent product out there then it is impossible to find a collective group of backers including gamers themselves who recognize their abilities.
Gendo just wants to finally see Sakaguchi again
There's still old guard there, they're just in their own corner doing their own thing while much of the company around them is on fire instead of getting involved in this other stuff, which is great if you're a fan of things like the Mana or SaGa series and things like Live a Live.
flopchain games
What the fuck is blockchaim?
its an excel spreadsheet where every transaction is unique, listed and open so proof of ownership is evident. the uniqueness of the transaction is the main draw so that buyers can say the limited item they bought is theirs and unique.
except the folly comes in that its a digital item and there is no tangible item there at all and all you did was buy a receipt for an exorbitant price.
I understand the novelty of "blockchain uniqueness" but its just an extra step to what we already have in online market places that have things like item ID. TF2 has been doing this for 20 years
now you see why its dumb
This shit sounds absolutely fucking retarded. Why would Square do that, specially now that their games are dogshit generally speaking?
Japanese people for all their creativity ironically are also really slow on innovation since everything is run by old japanese men, they're still on the blockchain hype train despite it crashing in a fire 2 years ago.
I guess it is a side effect of their culture rewarding experience and time worked above talent.
There's no fucking way a japanese company would put a young man in charge of anything important regardless of how competent he might be, just because he's young.
from software literally did that with miyazaki
i'm sure your point stands for the majority but there will always be exceptions
Miyazaki's not exactly young, and From likely would have gone under if it weren't for Dark Souls, so they kind of had to put him in charge to survive.
There is also the perspective that some devs do not like the suit business model. Like nomura and nagoshi from Yakuza. Kitase is the only one from SE that accepted that position, and now Yoship.
And becoming the president from a single studio like From is easier than a gigantic publisher like SE
you are actually retarded. square is one of the FEW gaming companies actually pushing forward with innovation in this fastly evolving space. they're probably one of the most well positioned companies in this regard, I wouldn't be surprised if they surpass nintendo
>I wouldn't be surprised if they surpass nintendo
innovation is a word with positive connotations. introducing new ideas into a tepid space is innovation. trying to make more money with gimmicks is not innovative. youre entire argument is a joke when you consider that Squeenix in the same place as Google without the money and multiple egg baskets. Cloud gaming was also supposed to be a new innovative idea that was the "new wave" but Stadia crashed, flipped and achieved 46million RPM while achieving the same temperature as Venus in how well it went. you sound like an investor trying to praise "good ideas" instead of a consumer and enjoyer of media wanting good products.
in order to surpass nintendo they would have to make good games. which they are by and large not doing. its as simple as that.
maybe you hate fun if you think they're not making good games. and yes it is extremely prudent and responsible of them to be scouring the landscape of innovation and actually creating small experiments like symbiogenesis to get a feel for what will inevitably become the metaverse.
i'm sorry you're a bitter child who hates fun and also wants games to merely be toys.
>what will inevitably become the metaverse.
You mean the scrapped project Zuck poured billions into?
no, I mean a world where the walls of these incredibly cucked walled garden ecosystems are replaced by bridges
Anon, those walls are not technological, they are commercial. No company would want to reward players for giving playtime (and thereby profit) to the competition. The only way these walls ever fall is if gaming in its entirety gets overtaken by a single company.
>maybe you hate fun
no.
>what will inevitably become the metaverse
okay so you are a retard faux-investor. not sure how a fun engaging experience with a good provocative narrative needs to be anything more than that. the self report on thinking games are merely toys and you need to be a big responsible adult and think of them as assets.
resorting to calling someone a child because they view games the same way they view a bike or any other leisure tool is more telling of how much of a fart sniffer you are. Square Enix are not your buddy Carl setting up his first studio they are the giant of RPG gaming who have squandered their important IPs in the name of chasing trends so fuckcunts like you can praise them for being innovative instead simply making good pieces of entertainment. and then those fail because theyre not good theyre just gimmicky. nobody is going to buy square enix NFTs and you are going to waste your life and go blind looking at the sun analysing its effects on the flowers.
the ACTUAL truth is that without interactivity from the end user, "entertainment" is a one way black hole. there needs to be meaningful interaction by the end user (the player of the game). if 99% of games are these closed simulations that are run locally and have zero influence or impact on any other part of reality, then yes, they are mere toys. hence the push for more always online experiences, account systems etc. this is following in the same steps.
so call me a fuckcunt all you want but I have the mind of a tech billionaire
Anon...Are books black holes? Not everything needs a direct economic effect.
its a shame youll never have the money then. sounds like your ideas are toys and you fundamentally dont understand the purpose of entertainment. the push for these facets are driven by profit and engagement seeking minds.
so yeah youre a deluded fuckcunt thats trying to profit off your own tastebuds instead of eating the food for enjoyment of the taste and i hope one day when you realise there is no zenith to your life you wont break down into tears and actually just start enjoying good things without trying to make money off it
>so call me a fuckcunt all you want but I have the mind of a tech billionaire
So you're not just a fuckcunt, you're delusional ss well. Usually when I say meds, I'm telling someone to fuck off but in your case I'm telling you to genuinely get medicated because you clearly need it.
Anon, they massively undersold Eidos after placing all of the blame on them for the CEO being a fucking retard. That same CEO is the one pushing ahead for blockchain games.
The irony is that Square Enix's servers are absolutely horribly outdated. Unless they invested a fortune in new servers, this whole fiasco is a disaster waiting to happen.
yeah
>make Eidos Montreal do GotG marvel shit instead of Deus Ex or another immersive sim
>make Crystal Dynamics make a shitty Marvel game starring an astroturfed character that nobody actually likes
>wonder why they don't sell amazingly well
Technobabble for retards to think their shit is "untraceable, unhackable, secure" when all three have been proven wrong by 1) Silk Road FBI v&'d 2) Wallets being cleaned out from Malware 3) Magic: the Gathering: Exchange bank failing like SVB failed on Friday (but worse because they cleaned out their wallet and then told others tough shit, lmao)
LiberPedoians are the only ones that think it's the "economy of the future," because they're pedophillic retards.
KYS, BTW.
you don't need to understand anything other than the fact that it's pure undistilled garden gnome shit that was carefully designed to print money from gullible dipshits who think they finally found a money cheat in real life
>blockchain
Right wing mongoloids are fucking tools.
There are no "wings". I'm an absolutist monarchist, there are no sides or options.
Scientology's bank for storing stolen souls
Probably a complicated way of saying some in game loot and cosmetics will have NFT tokens attached to it allowing you to transfer it (or a constructed facsimile) between different new Squeenix games.
With there being some proprietary marketplace Squeenix runs for trading, like Valve with CSGO or TF2 skins.
One Kiryu-chan will Essence of Dojima out of Square-Enix in May, hopefully.
An attempt to scam players.
The evolution of gaming.
>game price increase
>pre-order bonus
>dlc
>in-app purchases
>loot boxes
>micro-transactions
>season pass season 1/2/3/#
>credits/item store/extra currency
All variations of the same thing. And now, the new chapter: blockcuckoldry.
Remember they sold all of the SQ Europe catalog(e.g. Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, etc.) to Embracer for $300 million to do blockchain shit. Embracer bought GEARBOX for $1.2. billion. Fucking Gearbox.
And that this year Embracer licensed out Tomb Raider to Amazon for $600 million.
Even without how much of a joke Final Fantasy has been for the last decade(s), Square-Enix's continued survival is bewildering.
cope
Who the fuck wants those shit branches
And before you parrot 600m bullshit, there is no confirmed currency.
There is a reason why Matsuda is getting the boot. Stockholders were probably really fucking furious about that move.
They should've never bought that shit in the first place. Fuck Eidos.
Square Enix understands gamers are retarded.
Micro-transactions showed the reality.
Yes. SE was early to GAAS with XI. They always wanted to milk the most milkable for as much as possible.
WHAT THE FUCK IS A BLOCKCHAIN GAME?
A scam
The cyberpunk dystopia nobody asked for.
i can't wait till some russian or chinese hackers gets into it
>says CEO
and that's why he's on his way out
The new guy is big on NFTs as well.
The CEO is a figurehead anon, the same decision makers on the board are behind this.
Yes
>CEO
or
>Fall-guy
Always the same tale...
Corporations are not your friends
no matter how long i spend on Ganker theres always a few retards who miss the point because they wanted to make a snappy comeback to the OP but just reveal theyre retarded
You missed your own point
shutup u retard. the point was that a corporation has stopped producing what they were originally enjoyed for. now are you going to have a conversation or are you going to periodically tab out from /d/ to post one liners on Ganker u piece of shit
>the point was that a corporation has stopped producing what they were originally enjoyed for
you don't know that
what /d/ thread are you in rn
I accept your concession
you didnt answer me. fine ill leave you to your degeneracy
I accept your concession
Retarded moron
>translates to "his isn't fun for me anymore."
I suspect the people that parrot this phrase use it a ton.
For me: it’s venus body types
Why do you think corporations are your friends? They’re not. They don’t care about you. They don’t even know you exist. You should treat them like they’re your friends.
>the point was corporation are my friends
They aren't, stupid sack of shit
they don't give a shit what you enjoy
they care about money and that's it
No it's like seeing your best friend become a billionaire and you're not invited. You're just coping.
NFTs are coming to XIV and you fucking know it. Might as well stop playing considering no further expansions are planned as per the shareholder report, maintenance mode announcement is just a matter of time. Fully expecting blockchain games and XVI to bury them at this point.
>NFT raid rewards
>cheating increases
>game becomes Albion/Flyff/Runescape tier chinese hellhole
this is the first time ive entertained schadenfreude feelings and im not even that bitter a person usually
Such is the fate of all online games
If it isn't designed with an ending in mind then it isn't a game. Gacha aren't games, they're skinner box casinos. MMOs aren't games, they're chatrooms with side activities. Only a game with a definitive end state designed and present from the beginning is truly a game.
Even after all the crypto crash and the shitty blockchain nonsense proving to be garbage, they're STILL going forward with this NFT laden sputum? FUCK.
Not just because it is shitty for SE to not give up that broken business model, but because them pouring money into it will cause the twitching corpse of every greedy cryptobro shitheel to claim they're the next big thing again, and then we'll ALL have to fight against other companies trying to push blockchain gaming which has zero benefit for any player who wants to enjoy a game not be part of a heavily monetized "play to earn" money laundering ecosystem.
Its bad enough they have all the exclusive cosmetics item mall shit atop the subscription. Fuck if they even come close to this but maybe they won't because they're afraid they'll cause an upset of existing users which are basically paying for all of SE's other mistake
There is a HUGE difference in so many ways. One big one (aside from the cart before horse and cynical grift shit anon mentioned) is that the devs can decide to just fuck off and make eleventy billion of a "rare' item because its all within their game. With NFTs the entire thing is monetization focused where every thing in the game is put down to how much it is worth in whatever real money trade currency and it leads to a sickening "non-game", just a cynical profiteering platform that happens to have a GUI. I've played MMOs for ages and this is fucking poison right into the veins.
As someone who played Meridian 59, Underlight, and EverQuest as well as many that came after, reading that makes me want to vomit.
Its good you're honest about it, but do you ever think that maybe you shouldn't be proliferating such behavior as it makes gaming worse for everyone? The "play to earn" as a primary market CANNOT exist in a game designed for "play for fun", its like how we saw with Lootboxes/gacha fucks with game design. Out of room
Everything about modern gaming is monetization. Especially in MMOs. What the fuck do you think battle passes, subscriptions, lootboxes, in-game currencies, paid "pro" tiers and skins are? Skins have a "rarity" attached to them precisely to encourage players to buy more lootboxes.
Hell, some of the most popular games on the market right now are gacha. An entire genre that revolves around monetization.
This is a bit like saying "All the easily available, cheap food is shit quality and shit for you! Why are you asking for whole foods that take time to prepare properly and made of healthful ingredients?". Yeah, "monetization" is the fucking problem especially as it continues to the perpetual growth chasing bullshit no matter how it hurts the games themselves or is based on tricking the users with what psychological bullshit they can.
Nobody is saying games can't or shouldn't make money but there's a big difference between
>We charge a monthly subscription for this MMO. There are free content patches and updates, users keep subscribing as long as they're having fun. So long as they subscribe for access the entire game content is open to them. Maybe once a year or two they buy an expansion pack for a one-off price.
vs what has been normalized now. Some of those things can be decent in and of themselves but are often stacked or used poorly to exploit the player
>Battle pass
Reasonable IF AND ONLY IF is decently priced, and someone who missed or didn't finish it would be able to unlock the content in a reasonable manner. Often predicated on grinding FOMO and that is the problem, better get it ot level 100 or else its gone even if you paid for the premium track etc. You can see how while not perfect, DeepRockGalactic is the closest to fixing this
>Subscription
Used right, the gold standard for live services. However it means relying ONLY on the sub not having a lot of shit atop it.
>lootboxes
Almost always garbage, made worse by encouraging users to pay for them too, FOMO bullshit
>in-game currency, item mall, skins
Major fucking problem , especially stacked. Fuck this sideway when its on exclusivity for cosmetics, as a tax on certain play dynamics (ie pretending cosmetic content isn't real content).
>Gacha
Lootbox on steroids, some of the worst most manipulative shit out there. Would be better if it didn't exist in gaming at all.
>Yeah, "monetization" is the fucking problem especially as it continues to the perpetual growth chasing bullshit no matter how it hurts the games themselves or is based on tricking the users with what psychological bullshit they can.
Except nobody here is talking about monetization, they're talking about NFTs because they're scared that if they touch a blockchain all their money will be stolen by an evil crypto bro that smokes weed.
In reality this changes nothing and these retards are way more likely to lose their money in a bank collapse.
I accept your concession.
Not an argument.
"blockchain" for this use in the "play to earn" sense and the NFT sense is absolutely a monetization issue, one that infests and changes the entire design of a game's systems. Yes there are other bad forms of monetization and a lot of them, but its even WORSE to add blockchain/NFT shit which frames the entire game economy as an external investment - its no longer about buying a game (and or subscribing to keep your interested), or even buying some shitty cosmetic because you really want your character to have a blue hat , but now its an investment and that blue hat and its drop rate has an official value in terms of whatever NFT/blockchain currency which can be exchanged for "real" money. This is just one of the problems but blockchain/NFT basis is absolutely a monetization issue and is yet another slide down a slope which is almost vertical at this point.
Barry you are consistently and undeniably wrong about literally everything. You're a schizo on the same level as Caramel. Like do you have a shred of decency to just admit your opinions are faulty due to a fault life perspective? Common man, how many years has it been now? Get help
the irony of this post and he doesn't even see it.
I'll admit I was never a big square fan back in the day besides like...The Bouncer. But after playing FF7R I've written them off as an incompetent garbage studio. They were working on that shit since before the PS3 launch.
I remember being so excited when they acquired tri-ace as a kid. How the mighty have fallen.
>I remember being so excited when they acquired tri-ace as a kid. How the mighty have fallen.
Did you larp this reality? They do not own Tri-Ace
This an odd image to see, as this was the exact pfp I used for the longest time from a certain comic
>Modern day Square Enix is like seeing your best friend in high school become a homeless drug addict.
So basically since the merger. Poor Enix.
You can't fall below expectations when you have your own currency to report in
Haven't all the NFT/crypto games died out because once people start pulling out of the ecosystem with money earrned, the game economy implodes like in Axie where $1200 NFTs are now worth like $5?
you dont need crypto to do blockchain, you can just have it backed in normal money, but that also loses the appeal.
The issue is that Axie was literally just a ponzi with a extremely simple 'Gameify' (gamification) layer on top. It was not even really a game. It was less interactive than farmville and once the token price began to go down, it created a cascade effect.
There really hasn't even been a blockchain game to fail yet. The people saying that they "always fail" don't really understand that there hasn't been a major blockchain game that has officially launched yet. They TRIED to put NFTs into some Ubisoft games but that will never work. You cannot put NFTs into a game that already exists and expect it to work or people to be happy.
The ultimate goal is to create a blockchain/web3/Play-to-earn game that is fun first and foremost and can also earn you money too. That is the elevator pitch. It sounds great on paper. "Imagine players who love to play a game, but then they keep playing it because it is fun AND they can earn money. We get a cut of all their sales too, so when they earn, we earn." Sounds perfect, right? I mean that is like the wetdream of any executive. That is why Blockchain games keep getting approved.
How do I know? I am someone who actively invests, trades, buys, and sells NFTs. You all can laugh at me, I deserve it, but I have at this point minted probably 30+ "Play to Earn" gaming NFT projects and all of the ones that are trying to build "legitimate" games are not even close to release. A few have released purely blockchain stuff (Pirate Nation, for example, which is created by the farmville founder) but they have not been around for a long time. There have also been some huge scams in blockchain games where the founders basically took millions and left. Oh and before you guys say anything, I am not really attached to any of my NFTs and just view it as a way to make money. I am pretty cynical and honest about all of it.
>That is the elevator pitch. It sounds great on paper. "Imagine players who love to play a game, but then they keep playing it because it is fun AND they can earn money. We get a cut of all their sales too, so when they earn, we earn." Sounds perfect, right?
It sounds horrible. Keep entertainment and jobs separate, or they'll both merge into some demonic entity neither fun nor profitable.
that already existed in diablo 3, where it was eventually removed for reasons i do not recall.
>Imagine players who love to play a game, but then they keep playing it because it is fun AND they can earn money.
this might sound great if you're a teenager or something (which also also lead to market regulation) but as an adult its kind of hilarious how little money you can actually make. People putting in tens/hundreds of hours to make what I do in a day. Yes I know its wageslaving vs gaming but when gaming is a fulltime job whats the difference really
And the end result is that third worlders desperate for money end up treating it like a day job, driving off any playerbase that isn't there solely for money.
or swarms of hundreds of thousands of chinese gold farmers
Anon, the second you involve real monetary value to a game it becomes absolutely miserable and unplayable. "But what if it is fun to earn money while playing?!" It won't. The idea that a private player can just log in and make some cash is idiotic, people will industrialize that shit. That imaginary player will either face hoards of thrid worlders who earn their living with that or have to put up with player corpo autism like Eve. And that doesn't even cover the amount of backstabbing, cheating and drama that will ensure. "Play to earn" and "fun" are mutually exclusive, because no one wants to be in that kind of environment.
I respect your hussle though, keep on going.
2 questions
Where does the money come from exactly?
A gym model where you pay for the buy-in and money is earned from the people NOT actually playing the game?
Advertisement in game?
I don't understand where this magical money that you receive for playing a game comes from
and secondly, what's stopping from third worlders and chinks running thousands of bots so normal people can't compete
If their normal games are this bad, imagine their NFT games. Greedy CEO's have to get it through their heads build a game from the ground up with only massive profits in mind. It will never work and will always be soulless
>Blockchain in games
wtf does this even mean? Is your character gonna be an nft or something?
Nothing. It means nothing. But it gets twitter engagement numbers up and boomer investors cream their pants over wacky technobabble so the suit who made that decision is getting a promotion and a yacht.
>so the suit who made that decision is getting a promotion and a yacht.
except in this case, the suit who was spearheading the SE blockchain and NFT projects was forced to step down as CEO and was replaced.
Replaced with someone who fully backs NFT. More of the same shit.
In a different thread we saw what their slides were and discussed it a bit. I'll do my best to explain what I remember.
There is a free-to-play class.
There is an action or mission class (gameplay.)
There is a collector class.
Everyone involved in the game gets information, information leads to items etc. Items are needed along with mission success to qualify for:
End of season Quest: 3 players will decide what happens at the end of this quest-line.
They envision guilds forming, while others go in small groups. The content scales in difficulty, requiring more players as it goes.
Information is supposed to be valuable, we weren't able to figure out exactly what this information would actually be.
Also the type of gameplay was not mentioned. But with scaling (needing multiple players), it indicates turn-based with stat bloats as difficulty.
You can trade out items for NFTs. They want some players buying items from other players. SE would take a percentage on each transfer.
They want the NFT to gain value for both aesthetic reasons and "information" reasons.
All in all, it seems strange to me, but this is what I remember. There was more about transfers and the real-money stuff but I have forgotten.
Is this similar to the skin market from Counter-Strike, where you can earn "real" money by playing the game?
functionally its the same thing, its just blockchain has more buzzwords cause of "immutability" which I bet the people selling blockchain games cant even explain.
The appeal is that you would be making real money and your NFT would become "real" assets, but its really not anything different from a steammarket place where you can sell skins you earn. Its just so dumb that Square Enix is doubling down on it.
Also would like to add theres not a lot of games where you can make money legally, at least not any Square Enix games I can think of. Steam Market places are more for gambling and offsetting your loads but to turn it into money takes a third party since money cant legally be taken out of it.
So Square Enix Blockchain games would allow you to turn your stuff into NFTs and sell that for real money, with Square Enix nickel and diming all trades. Although I dont know what crypto legality will even look like considering a lot of countries banned this shit recently.
Yes this is a very important point. If it grows, it will be regulated. Governments don't turn away free money like this.
They do if it breaks their grasp on power over currency. Which to be fair, it doesn't, but so many buzzwords are thrown out that I don't expect the geritocracy to understand that. Crypto is stupid.
Yeah other things will have to happen to break that grasp. Still, if crypto causes chaos I am pro crypto.
well fortunately the immediate reaction to anything old people dont understand is to ban it, so Square Enix might be forced to abandon this idea when they bring it to market and realize they fucked up
>interest interest interest interest
Usury is sinful for a reason. Makingt money out of thin air with frivolous bullshit that don't even exist in the real world is satantic.
Paradoxically, crypto can fuck it all up by potentially making governments lose grasp over their currency, so I support it.
Fuck garden gnomes
No it can't, read my post again. Crypto is even worse then fiat because it's reliant on fiat. It doesn't break their grasp on control over currency, it reinforces it.
thats just how it is right now, Crypto could break free of fiat potentially, its just a long term issue as we wait for countries to adapt it fully.
>Crypto could break free of fiat potentially
I keep saying it cannot. Read you illiterate moron, read!
>Someone has 100 bitcoins
>"Wow, 100 bitcoins, that's worth 100,000 dollars!"
>Someone has 100,000 dollars
>"Wow, 100,000 dollars, that's worth....100,000 dollars!"
Yep
The only way I can see it working is if they make a really competent kino game whose characters and world are appealing enough to warrant some type of "collector prestige" by having rare items of said game.
CS works because it's an extremelly popular competitive free to play game with a HUGE audience.
CS, as a game, is the opposite of what Square Enix is good at. CS has no story or characters or art direction or anything at all that matters besides the gameplay.
Meanwile, iSE games live and die on their art direction, characters/story and soundtrack, so I can't imagine them making a turbo-normie competitive free to play game.
I agree. KINO comes first. KINO creates the value.
megalomaniac tech ceo here, I agree kino is key
Yes. The business-man must be merged with the KINO autist. It's the recipe to success in many industries.
Good luck anon!
WHY CAN'T THEY JUST MAKE A KINO GAME?! Holy shit is it really that hard?
Maybe they should just Remake FF7 as faithfully as possible, and as one complete single game. It would have lived up to the hype and sold tens of millions.
Why do they always have to be so fucking retarded?
I love 7R so i dont agree with that
>loads of filler bullshit so they can justify charging full price for just Midgar
>Time ghost shit that completely fucks up the story
you people have no standards.
So at the end of the day is just "i dont like the game". i can use this with every other title i dont like.
You don't agree that 7R would be better without the ghost bullshit and as a single complete game?
I like the concept of 7R but also do not like how the ghosts are presented. But games are a lot of different parts, and i think the positive parts of Remake make me not that bothered with everything jannie related.
I wonder if the question he made was a bait just to reply in that way, he is that ill.
As soon as someone starts talking in a way that implies 7r had flaws or could have been better, you know someone is trolling
The fact he is setting questions to respond to himself is incredible. Cant imagine how bad it will be when new trailers arrive.
I assume he's going to be so angry when Rebirth gets another trailer.
As long as I see the characters again I'm happy so its hard for me to say what would be "better"
This is the definition of low standards and saying it's hard to know what would be better is just bullshit.
I'm pretty sure you fucking know you desingenuous gay.
Could the game have been better? Maybe. But I focus on the parts of the game that I like. The bad parts don't matter to me, and I feel sorry for anyone who think the bad parts of a game matter when the game has good parts
Again, literally the definition of low standards.
RE4 has bad parts. Shadow of the Colossus has bad parts. Dark Souls has bad parts. FF7 original has bad parts.
7R fucking ruined its story with some fucking retarded retcon bullshit.
What it does good it does very good, but the things it does good are fewer than all the bad.
It's not asking much that a Remake retains the things that don't need any changing
its probably different departments, the people making FF7R2 and FFXVI arent the ones making NFT games, those are probably the mobile people since they have experience in gacha shit
SE has been more focused on
>grooming
Customers for a while now. They want to maximize cash per customer rather than volume of customers.
Theory that these customers will engage in high value marketing for you.
Reality is that they are...quickly discredited since they recommend poor experiences.
But that is the business school SE follows.
>They want to maximize cash per customer rather than volume of customers.
that sounds like valuing the short term over the long term which is incredibly dumb
Eh. It's not a bad strategy in many industries...but you have to ...this will sound cheesy and false... but you have to care about the customer. You have to have a good relationship for a business to work like this.
Not sure how SE is on this, others will have to comment.
The global economic catastrophe is going to turn their rectum inside out, SE is megafucked.
Feel like i am in a timeloop, keep hearing that for more than 10 years.
There's something about modern day suits that make them lethally averse to making a good product. Like they'd die if they found out something in their company was made with high quality.
if they could make a kino game they could just release it like normal and sell 20 million copies tbh, the blockchain part would just be tacked on
There was a time japanese companies used to have a creative mind.
Capcom had Mikami, Konami had Kojima, Square Enix had Yoshitaka Amano and Nobuo Uematsu.
Nintendo has Myiamoto.
The impirtance of figures like those cannot be overstated, look at From Software for example. It's thanks to Myiazaki that the company has grown so much in prestige and influence.
Those big jap companies however hated the idea of mere game directors having so much influence and power.
They didn't want to those guys to become too big otherwise their brands would be too associated with their names, thus reducing the companies ability to do whatever they wanted with the brand.
As a result, to this day, those retarded greedy boomer japs still dislike handling their franchises over to one guy with a strong creative vision.
They want to micromanage everything and don't trust their devs on their creativity.
Even fucking Nomura could potentially have made a masterpiece with Versus XIII
Point is, Square CEO's need to to get off their high horse because they clearly can't make games; they need someone with a concise creative vision, and they need to bet on such person. They should train a game director to become such a person, with the intention of being their own Miyazaki.
>Yoshitaka Amano
He's just a freelance artist who did the covers for pulp fantasy novels, he wasn't instrumental to Square Enix at all. You could have at least said Sakaguchi.
>You could have at least said Sakaguchi.
I actually thought about this name but since I was not sure it was correct I googled "ff creator" and Amano came up
Don't forget that Ubilol did that already for Ghost Recon: Breakpoint and they literally gained nothing from it. I think 14 hats were put on sales by players when the system came out. it was the same hat just with just a different number attached to it and no one brought them out.
I think They went silent after that amazing stunt, before that they were going all ham with the blockchain thing.
it's probably the last of their problems considering how the company is going so far
Yes it seems so. The "extra" value from the new technology is not explained if there is something else.
I guess there is speculatory value in case people like the art? But if you look at the art SE showed it's...very grim. Worth a kek and a groan if you see it however.
Square Enix has always been fucking shit. The merger was a mistake.
What was it about the merger that just made then go completely off their rocker?
They were regarded as kings of the industry until FF X-2 rolled around.
The Enix side was mostly focused on business and publishing and lacked any real creatives outside of Horii, they struck gold with DQ but the rest of their catalogue was pretty hit or miss. Square, on the other hand, was a trailblazer full of passionate artists, writers, and creators in general, who were always innovating and trying new things. They struck gold with FF, but they always used those funds to explore new spins on the turn-based RPG, and oftentimes elements from those new franchises looped back into FF and their entire catalogue just kept growing like that. The Spirits Within was another one of these adventurous projects, and when it failed it brought the value of Square down to the point that merging with Enix became a way for them to survive. But Enix slowly started gutting them the same way someplace like EA guts its studios, but since Square had so much talent it's just taken a lot longer to reduce them to the state they're in now. At this point most of the creative forces that made SNES/PSX Square such a monolith have left and either gone freelance or started their own studios (Monolith Soft, Genius Sonority, AlphaDream, BrownieBrown, etc.), and unfortunately a lot of those studios were mismanaged as well and have mostly gone defunct.
tl;dr Enix is a soulless publishing company and they reduced Square to its current state
To expound on this, there's a sense that at 90s Square, there was an attitude of throwing everything at the wall and just seeing what stuck. The creative output of Square during the PSX era alone is completely astounding. They had 3 mainline FFs, a horror RPG (Parasite Eve), a street racing RPG (Racing Lagoon), a platformer series (Tomba), an action adventure game (Brave Fencer Musashi), a shmup (Ergheiz), multiple SRPGs (FF Tactics, Front Mission), and many RPGs with production values just as high as mainline FF (Chrono Cross, Vagrant Story, Xenogears, etc.). And they were all FUCKING GOOD! Such a varied and quality catalogue is un-fucking-heard of, but Square somehow did it.
When they started having financial troubles and merged with Enix, that mentality of wild creativity and everyone with a decent idea getting a chance at a game went completely out the window. Enix wasn't willing to take as many risks, when the very thing that made Square so prolific was their risk-taking mentality. This change in attitude drove many of the creatives out of the company, and the only ones that were really left were the people mostly resopnsible for mainline FF. The soul of the company left with Sakaguchi.
I'd fucking give anything to bring prime Square back from the dead, but having all those amazing devs under the same roof will likely never happen again. 90s Square was like lightning in a bottle, I don't think we'll ever see another studio like them.
Insert Zappa comments on music industry here. Throwing shit at the wall and seeing what works (sells) is the most KINO creative industry management possible.
You're not wrong, but economically it was also a lot simpler. Financial viability fora SNES game was measured in the tens of thousands, and development time was measured in months. Not like now where the AAA of AAA takes the entire console generation and even for the PS3/360 budgets and sales had to be measured in millions.
It's like asking why modern anime doesn't look like 80s anime OVAs when accounting for inflation something like Golgo 13 The Professional had like eight times the budget of your average 1-cour TV anime.
I think this is why I enjoy games from the mid-80s up through the mid-00s so much, and ever since then gaming has been mostly dead to me. That sense of trailblazing and taking risks with a budding art form is completely lost. Everything seems like it's down to a market science, and which elements are included in games are decided according to whatever market research thinks will generate the most revenue. From Software seems to be one of the only major devs flying in the face of this, and it's honestly a wonder to me that they managed to reach normalfags now. Outside of them there's really not much big-budget risk-taking anymore.
Normal-fags are...still if nothing else. They want things that are alive. The autist degeneration is what has really been most wretched. Autists now ask for the worst possible products in film, music, and vidya too.
Still, all things end. One day this too will pass.
>doubling down after the trainwreck that was flopspoken
>Square-Enix has hired long time former Capcom executive Keiji Inafune, in an effort to expand their profitability. Inafune will be working in the field of NFTs and Blockchain gaming, which he says is the wave of the future. "If Japan does not get behind the blockchain, then they are as good as dead."
Is this fucking real? The biggest huckster in Vidya is now going to be in charge of NFTs which are essentially a huge grift? This shit is a parody
How fucking dare Square Enix do this? *buys 50 $ of lootboxes* Don't they know crypto hurts the fucking ambienterino? *spends 500 $ on a CSGO knife skin* This is preposterous! I'm going to boycott Square Enix from now on, I wanna be on the right side of history! *spends 20 $ on a Twitch chat as his credit card is immediately charged for his Netflix, PlayStation Plus and Final Fantasy XIV subscriptions* Japanese boomers must die and be replaced with progressive, inclusive immigrants to stop this climate genocide *gets banned from Steam because he said the N word once in 2012, completely losing access to all "his" games and inventory"
Who are you quoting?
I hate both, but NFTs are far more retarded than microtransactions. At least the idiotic whales who buy skins and lootboxes actually play the game they spend all that money in. Meanwhile people who are into this whole play to earn shit in video games are exclusively broke ass losers who think NFTs will make them a millionaire and they purely treat it as a speculative asset.
There is no difference between this and the morons buying TF2/CSGO keys waiting for a "rare" skin to drop so they can sell it or exchange it for other shit. There is literally no difference for the player whatsoever whether the skins are on a centralized server or on a centralized blockchain.
In fact, if Steam put inventories and libraries into a public, decentralized blockchain; users would have the benefit of having a proof of ownership that would still work even if Steam went down. But that's not what's going on here and not what's gonna happen at any point.
There's no reason at all to hate this decision because it changes nothing at all.
The difference is that TF2 and CSGO used to be very popular games and the real life money collector shit evolved out of a real fanbase that actively played those games. With NFT play to earn shit, the developers want to put the cart before the horse and design the cancerous real money collector shit before any game or fanbase even exists that would want any of that.
>proof of ownership if the game dies and you can't play it
The only proof you'll get is the proof you got scammed lmao
>in the brightest future, no digital theft or account hacking ever happens ever again due to someone needing to replace your entire digital footprint to keep access
instead we get time wasted on bullshit. you say "nothing will change" which is correct, all those projects that were not going to get funded because they were not profitable are now going to maybe get a chance except nutted in to the brim with NFT and other such garbage features and turn out shit.
same as always.
>mobile only, asia only, coffee machine pay2win online only Nier game
same shit since 2001
Yes because "proof of ownership" of a item in a game counts for anything after the game that uses it shuts down. A fucking hard drive encrypted to the ends of the Earth so you can't put anything on it/take anything off would be worth more because that you can at least have fun smashing.
except those are real games that are actually good
nft and metaverse bros are only in it for the grift they have no desire to make actual good games
the collector aspect of those games also grew naturally over time and wasn’t forced onto the playerhands
thats another thing
like if you think about it
players creating their own markets and devs joining in as a forethought is what happened whereas nft bros and metaversers artifically design these marketplaces for maximum grift
>losers who think NFTs will make them a millionaire and they purely treat it as a speculative asset.
That's the point. Draw in players who otherwise wouldn't have played in an attempt to make money. And let's face it, maybe like 5% of this group will actually turn some kind of profit.
It's more like seeing your bestfriend becoming a crypto-bro who still spends all day smoking weed
Yeah but in this case your best friend was huffing glue, skipping class, and getting molested by his mom's boyfriend back in highschool too.
Sonigroids on Twitter literally defended this game
>muh exclusive
That’s basically any major video game company these days, homie
Squeenix was always a bunch of hacks. It's just slowly becoming more evident.
FF7 onward has been nothing but LGBT pandering shit.
Square is healing.
actual .jpeg mountain
actual cope post
The thing about blockchain games is that essentially it means they must be always online by default.
How is this any different than the mountains of gacha shit that they've released? You gays have the weirdest sense of morality. Gachas? Nope nothing, not a pipe, normal, business as usual, not to mention some of you gays are even looking forward to that shitty FFVII mobile remake, and also, those twitter trannies and a LOT of you gays, plays and shills genchink. Blockchain games? Oh NOW it's "immoral". Get a fucking grip, you bloody hypocrites.
Yes, this is what I said in the other discussion as well. Except I used MMO which is the same sort of thing anyway. GAAS is GAAS.
>not a pipe
i too can cherrypick and selectively ignore large swathes of people shit-talking gacha games to improve my point.
youre a dickhead shouting at a crowd about playing Genshin when 3 people in that crowd play it. stop pissing yourself over made up arguments people hate gacha too, "people" playing and enjoying them doesnt mean the majority accepts them. youre treating gacha whales like theyre the majority here. u silly fuck
As bad as gacha gays are, cryptobros are so much worse that it's not even comparable. Gacha just preys on gambling addiction. Which is bad but it's a problem that already existed. NFT shit is actually trying to kill video games. The point of it is to turn video games into a speculative financial market and thereby kill video games as a recreational activity. A gacha game is a casino. It's a social evil but the harm is limited. NFTs want to be the stock market. A casino that for some reason everyone is forced to participate in regardless of whether or not they want to where everyone works to make a fortune for shadowy owners at the top who pretend that nobody owns it.
We've seen how bad gacha is in the sense that it's gambling, but it doesn't have any of the federal regulations that actual casinos have. There's not a gamer worth his salt who wants his hobby to be a massive unregulated stock market that we've already seen is made up of bad actors looking to scam or hopeful idiots who don't know they're being scammed.
Modern day gaming companies in general are like that.
The one thing we gamers did is rise up against this scam. Do not let up. NFTs taking over would be dystopia.
>as of yet unposted
Let me fix that.
This really shows how far from reality NFTfags are. No one is going to play Candy Crush, Elder Scrolls Online, Clash of Clans and OSRS all for a single item that might give you an advantage in a game that doesn't even exist. Not to mention that the overlap between the playerbase of so many different games is so small as to be non-existent.
And of course, no gaming company would ever implement such a thing, since keeping players into your own gaming ecosystem and away from the competition is the number one priority for anyone making service games. The last thing they'd want is to lock shit in their own games behind a grind from a competing game.
that's... just a regular korean mmo
No, it's a regular KMMO broken up across four different games and at least two different platforms.
I wonder how they can describe a literal dystopian nightmare so easily and then spin it as a good thing?
Holy fuck that sounds miserable.
I want to put a sword from Skyrim into Fallout 4. Same company, same engine. That's going to be a difficult task due to files relating to the sword not ruining anything about how Fallout 4 runs. I'll have to assign the sword a weight and value. I'll have to make sure my character has a swinging animation and that the sword has a hitbox associated with it.
>Why not just remake the sword in Fallout 4 then?
These people want shit shared between multiple different games. Even if you remake that thing from the ground up in every single game, and have systems that act like it's the same item between games, that's going to be a monumental waste of time and resources. And when it comes to customized items, that's a whole other can of worms.
Also, which dev team is responsible for adapting the item's art style to the individual game? Each dev has to introduce thousands upon thousands of new items every time a partnered game releases a new item? Or are we just going to have it be like a Korean MMO where you've got a medieval fantasy setting with people walking around in neon hot pants and sunglasses, riding sparkly unicorns from the cash shop?
I've met people like this in real life, they literally have never played video games and try to tell you how crypto will change everything.
When you ask why storefronts like apply, google, steam, etc would willingly allow crypto microtransactions that they don't get a cut of these people's minds just melt.
Point out that steam already has a steam inventory that allows you to sell items, cards, etc on an open market and you can use that money to buy games and other items, and that doesn't require crypto to function, they ask you what steam is because they've never heard of it.
I thought he was taking the piss until the end. Sounds bleak.
Is he taking the piss, or legitimately trying to describe this hellscape nightmare scenario as a desirable future?
Absolutely none of that requires a blockchain. Why do blockchaimorons continue to pretend that unique IDs can only exist on their shitty crypto chain? We've had this amazing technology for years it's called a receipt lmao.
>5% drop rate
>Low
>5% drop chance
>only 4 in existance
Mega dead game
No it's not. I mean it sucks, seeing somebody become a homeless drug addict, but this gay company wasn't my friend, nor did they contribute jack shit while they were clean.
I wish I could help, and I'll gladly support them if they find their way, but I'm not gonna shed a single tear for this uninspired, mechanically-deficient corporation that has actively contributed to the popularization of and encouraged its audience to be simple-minded. The definition of Final Fantasy is simplicity. Forgo challenge and ingenuity in favor of mindlessness and the illusion of depth.
From 1986 until now. Square was born a junky. They took inspiration, adapted it, and twisted it into sloth. Their origin story is and will always be that of greed. Nothing more, nothing less.
>hey lets make a isekai game its super popular, but target a playerbase that doesnt exist instead of anime fans
>hey ff7 is super popular lets take advantage of that by releasing it in parts, what do you mean we lost half the playerbase at game 2 of 3?
>hey i know the western departments went to complete shit when WE ordered them to make marvel games but lets sell them, ok sure for how much? oh 300m sounds nice, gets sold for 600m by embracer a few months later.
>hey that quirky yoko taro guy sure made a lot of money with his nier automata, should we give him some budget for another game? nah let him make mobile games and card games
>hey we lost a lot of money, how do we fix this? Let's take some more budget away from ff14 our only massive money maker.
Squares board of directors are incredibly retarded
Im sure they should've followed the Ganker anon's business decisions.
He will say net income isnt profit, just wait for it.
they have mobile games, and?
Their most valuable parts are Mobile and the HD games section
>with a major contribution from the FFXIV expansion pack
lol you just proved a single game is doing as much as entire divisions
this board really is fucking retarded
>doing as much as entire divisions
>still not as much as hd or even half of gacha
>dqx also got an expansion
the absolute state of cultists.
>get btfo by your own chart
>hurr durr cultists
>get btfo by your own chart
which you can't read apparently.
the fact that a single game is doing so much is impressive but of course you have be in the hivemind and blindl hate ffxiv
Wow the game that has an entire CBU and 300 devs, the level of production of a AAA game for more than 10 years makes money, incredible
Do you really think CBU 3 lives in a vacuum, they arent getting resources and more devs than a lot of other parts of the company?
And they still didnt manage to surpass the hd division even in their biggest expansion ever. 2022 SE barely released games and the hd division still won.
the barry classic
>lol you just proved a single game is doing as much as entire divisions
????? Are we seeing the same graphic. Are you using coke?
you guys really can't into numbers
>No I'm not dumb you are
good job cultist.
dude you are really insane
>guys
it's literally the one guy who calls everyone a cultist
>one guy
>he thinks xivfags being a cult is a thing someone made up on Ganker
cute.
87 HD games with no releases
130 Mobile
62 MMO in expansion release
>lol you just proved a single game is doing as much as entire divisions
Peak graphic analysis
This is the average anon that sees a chart and tells how 14 is keeping the company afloat.
And? This is like if their publishing division doubled its values, would be great? yes
But no way is the thing keeping the company profitable, you have the clear numbers below, what the hell are you talking about.
The retard really ignores 300 people working in the mmo and still losing to years where only Team Asano makes games.
stop talking to yourself
he is so mad at being wrong lmao
Wrong about what? A single game contributing that much? Only one mad here is you, because you can't handle that XIV is popular and doing well.
>A single game
*Dragon quest also had an expansion
>No YOU
lol
lmao even
>JP-only game
This is what you got from those numbers?
Yes, XIV makes billions of yen on it's own.
Name another single game doing that bro.
NOOOOOO IT DOESN'T COUNT
>Name another single game doing that bro.
Their AAA HD games. Do you think yen is that much.
>name another single game
>their AAA HD games lmao
name another single game bringing in billions of yen
>name another single game bringing in billions of yen
You really didnt understand anything i said wtf
>can't name it
cool story bro
The guy is retarded, im not joking. He took "14 isnt keeping the company afloat" as "14 doesnt makes money". Talking with him is a waste of time
stop talking to yourself
I dont engage in retarded discussions but this one is really stupid. It is so simple lmao
>their AAA HD games
Quite literally yes.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/final-fantasy-vii-remake-avengers-push-square-enix-1h-sales-up-43-percent
>In the first half when Final Fantasy 7 Remake launched, the publisher's HD Games division posted net sales of ¥34.1 billion ($330.1 million) and an operating income of more than ¥10 billion ($96.8 million).
You are fucking retarded.
I asked for a single game. Singular, not plural. You illiterate fuck.
Stop talking to yourself already.
>I asked for a single game. Singular, not plural. You illiterate fuck.
He posted FF7R did you even read it?
7R flopped in a time when everyone had nothing to do but play vidya.
So you are moving goalposts now because he used real data
>flopped
>posted net sales of ¥34.1 billion ($330.1 million) and an operating income of more than ¥10 billion ($96.8 million).
lol
the cult is delusional and salty.
XIV brings in more than that on the regular.
7R sold like shit.
>I asked for a single game
And I gave you one example
>In the first half when Final Fantasy 7 Remake
You are coping.
But his point wasnt that. He never said XIV was a failure, just how the argument of "it is keeping the company alive" is bullshit. And he is right. You taking that as a personal attack to XIV's perfomance is a lack of interpretation.
>two (2) MMOs bringing in billions on yen
>nah not helping keeping the company afloat at all
you can't have a single positive thought about ffxiv on this board
I can see that. XV-kun is determined to shit on it just because Yoshi-P rightfully shit on FFXV.
I know you like to point barry as a boogeyman nowadays, but that guy isnt him. Barry wouldnt let people talk bad things about forspoken or xv, he acts like a bot.
shut the fuck up barry
Yeah because if you start getting 4000 dollars per month you will keep your home afloat. When your parents make 10000 per month. Incredible math.
bless you you're trying
it's not quite working tho
14 makes the most money, we just need to cut all the other divisions from the chart. Powerfull stuff
Wait
The whole talk about keeping the company away of going broke is just to have half of the hd division's numbers? i expected more
yeah a single game doing that much isn't impressive or anything
It isnt just a "single game" when you have constant development and costs for a whole decade. I was reading the thread and some anon said how 14 has more than 300 devs, he isnt wrong.
The game does well, but the narrative of being the only thing making money is not true.
extreme cope
Whatever bro. This thread was interesting to look because i got some real info.
yeah info that you're delusional
ffxiv is making huge numbers
this makes Ganker seethe hard
okay barry
the cult lose their minds if you question their narrative.
2022 had EW's release so i also expected more, but it is good numbers. Nothing on the level of HD division or mobile tho
The thing is that people spend all day here thinking SE games constantly bomb, when most of them do well, only shit like Avengers, Forspoken and cheap published games do bad
So when yearly reports arrive they get surprised by how much money the hd division still makes.
True
It isnt a case of 14 doing bad, just how the other divisions are surprisingly well. This is why they can do shit like nfts in their free time.
What is the MMO bit even including? Subs?
Most people subbed to FFXIV mid-year because of Asmongoloid.
The whole 2022 period got the incline until EW, the whole hype. This is why FF14's values that are 40 went to 62. Now in recent reports it dropped to 40 again and will probably rise when the next expansion gets announced.
>western studio sale
we just gotta ignore that part
Ganker will ignore it and say they didnt like Tomb Raider anyway as if thats somehow relevant
Yes they selling the western studios in 2022 made all the chart retroactivelly incline since 2014, such a genius
>ignore several factors and focus on "number go up"
literally how we got into this fiasco in the first place good job
>Number goes down
THOSE RETARDS ARE SO BROKE THEY ARE GOING BANKRUPT
>Inclining for 10 years
NUMBERS DONT MATTER BECAUSE I DONT LIKE THE GAMES THIS MEANS NOTHING
what is the reverse of this exactly, the topic of the thread is poor business decisions that dont result in good games or services. im not sure what focusing on an incline in profit from various sources is supposed to mean.
>LOOK THEYRE MAKING MONEY, THAT MEANS THEY CANT POSSIBLY BEING DOING ANYTHING WRONG
>the game balance and state of FFXIV is increasingly lambasted by the playerbase
>several abysmal ports released
>advertising of unwanted features
>shutting down games left right and centre
>Babylons Fall, FFVII BR, Forspoken
trying to go nuclear on the statistics while the direction of the projects is taking a nosedive is being pedantic. the point trying to be expressed is that we dont like the games, your neutral flapping against the indicators is weird
It is taking a nosedive because you said so? i think avengers and forspoken is shit but i like their recent projects
id say publicly announcing the continuation of investment in NFTs despite backlash is a nosedive yes. i also like some of their recent projects but the cause for concern is the aforementioned willingness to fuck them in the interest of innovation.
everyone wanted Avengers to be good and im not so ignorant as to claim i know exactly the involvement SE had in polluting it but yknow the implication is apparent
Dont be disingenuous. Every time SE has a lower quarter we have 3 threads per day for 2 weeks talking how they are going broke. Seems like numbers only matters when it is for doomposting.
we have 100 threads a day talking about how everything in every facet of gaming is because of transgender politics. i am me, im not Ganker as a whole. numbers are an indicator of the state of something wthat are shitflung for every which reason on Ganker.
>LOL SONY ONLY SOLD 4 PS5s IN THE LAST 5 MINUTES
as opposed to
>not sure if FFXVI is going to do well as a PS5 exclusive considering the already niche market.
Regardless of Ganker being retarded. It is just what happens here, and you followed the example.
again i am me, not Ganker. im not going to alter my sentiments so that they dont appear as "doomposting" or to not appear disingenuous. thing is, im not actually even of the mind that sales numbers are directly indicative of the situation, i was just responding to the idea that sales numbers alone and pointing at a chart is not necessarily a good way to reason for or against a direction a company is going on without viewing the big bars as influenced by alot of things
I agree, i just dont see that much logic in the doomposting because they already got rid of their western branch and Luminous. They should have bigger quality control with some published titles like babylons fall, but they costed 10 mcdonalds of budget, so it really doesnt matter.
Dude, the sale was in 2022. What is this logic lmao. They are at their best moment since the 90s if you have basic graphic interpretation.
I can tell you don't understand how this graph works.
Them explain to me how a sale in 2022 made them have increasing profits since 2014. Tell me
>point out the obvious standout on the chart is because of the big sale
>you try to change the argument to say that the sale was the cause of income going up since 2014
You are incredibly dumb.
I imagine you dont know the concept of median in analytics
>median
you stupid moron lmao, you have no idea what median means.
Even if you cut the 2022 year, thinking it would be that one year to break the company is utterly retarded. Even more when revenue of vidya companies is not constant because of specific releases.
>it would be that one year to break the compan
>puts words in my mouth
incredible.
The sale of the money grubbing western studios do not go into their net income you ignorant dumbass. Stop pretending you know anything about this company.
The 2022 sale did go into that one, this is why the 2022 value is broken. But thinking they would've bombed in the 2022 is braindead logic. Look how 2022 they had avengers and it still barely affected they values.
>Look how 2022 they had avengers and it still barely affected they values.
If you meant 2020, it was because of 7remake doing gangbusters that saved them from avengers.
Yes, i know. The 2023 report will be worse because they dont have a big release to save forspokens bomb.
You're so stupid.
WAIT ARENT THEY GOING BANKRUPT NEXT WEEK?
Wait a second, did the Ganker specialists lie to me? it cant be true.
2022 is lying with numbers, they sold off a bunch of shit
Retard, Here is actual 2022 numbers without the western branch sale that went into the net income
They still inclined.
You can remove that sale and they still had a bigger year. Something you would know if you looked at their reports.
Ganker is the only place you'll see schizos claiming FF7 remake had flaws. Retards here are too desperate for another tortanic
based j setting the record straight.
Why are you always here
I anonymous am everywhere.
Unpaid PR work for SE is my entire life. Noboby works harder to protect those share prices than me.
>Ganker is the only place you'll see schizos claiming FF7 remake had flaws.
ENTER
Don't even need to watch this to know none of his criticisms are valid. He probably hasn't even looked into the lore or theories.
Read what I greentexted of your own writing
Your original point was unsavageable even before this last rely of yours
You know you're talking to a falseflagger, right
I know, even homeless morons deserve bits of transitory euphory that a (You) gives
This guy is an autist that got mindbroken, so he enters threads and posts that image to bait people. Did you see the type of reply he gave to you? yeah
I'm amazed more people aren't aware of him. I must have posted about him almost 5000 times by now. What a waste of time.
After he was exposed as NSP he fucked off for a while.
People focus too much in barry but often forget this poor bastard.
He's going to be so angry when XVI is kino KEK
Why?
Just an assumption I have. I assume he hates all the FF games I like
>ffvii remake has such a bad reputation on Ganker that anyone being positive about it is considered a falseflagger
man you guys are bitter and miserable.
at least KH fans know kino when they see it and aren't afraid of fun
what happened in 2011 and 2013?
FF14 1.0 and costs to remake it.
>income
You fucking illiterate bastard, google what net income is.
Retard. I bet you are the average anon who thinks gross profit is the most importand metric.
It has the word profit so surely is the most important thing to analyse lmao
>gets sold for 600m by embracer a few months later.
Worse then that, it was just the movie rights that were sold to amazon, and not even for all of the IPs. Embracer was laughing all the way too the bank.
>seeing your best friend in high school become a homeless drug addict
Could be worse. Could be a chud.
What's the best outcome for Square if it goes under and gets bought by another studio so they can revive their properties?
Falcom getting FF.
Saudi Arabian prince who lives anime and boobies
A combination of saudi oil baron weebs and nintendo splitting up their ips. I don't think any japanese companies except nintendo can handle any more stuff to work on right now and western tech companies are all suffocating to death from their own bloat. China is china, not much needs to be said.
squeenix was never my friend
Square Enix was never good.
Squaresoft was good.
Enix was ok.
They've been shit since day 1 of the merger.
Economic expansion and cross-industry effects is also something that should be noted when analyzing things...especially since recent contraction (although already the West is recovering) has shaken things up.
Don't know how Japan is but essentially 0 anons are doing the groundwork necessary to analyze a Japanese company's situation.
In short: KYS sales and profit posters.
SE will go the route konami is goin
So they made a shitty uninspired game that nobody wanted and now have to whore out their blockchain games to try and make that money back. What the fuck
to be fair they were whoring out blockchain for the last 2-3 years, Forspoken made them double down on it
Because it is a big gamble. I would say that overall things are stacked AGAINST Blockchain/p2e games but if one hits, it will hit BIG. That is the thing. Even if it is like 90% chance to fail, that 10% chance would lead to a game that is a bigger cashcow than FF14.
Modern Square Enix is like watching that one uppity gay become a drug addict, it's funny and they deserve every last bit of hate they get.
Why are the leadership at squeenix so fucking retarded? They had a humonguous brand during the Squaresoft days, but they just nosedived after the merger.
Here's the timeline of retardation:
>Dudes in their 20's get together to make games, run an internet cafe and recruits some customers with potential
>They bumble around, make some games nobody cares about and hemorrhage money
>Decide to say fuck it, let the nerds and artists run the ship and rip off Dragon Quest
>This is wildly successful
>Squaresoft becomes the go-to place for creative types. Everyone from management down trusts the artists and programmers to deliver
>Enix talks about a merger with Square
>The Spirits Within movie bombs so hard it destroys Sakaguchi's career, almost stops the merger, and makes everyone paranoid about letting the creative types run amok
>Merger goes through with Enix in almost total control
>Enix decides that FF should be treated like DQ. i.e.: Exploited like an African cobalt mine.
>All the creative types from Square slowly transition to freelance work because they don't need this shit
and that's only up to 2007
>Enix decides that FF should be treated like DQ. i.e.: Exploited like an African cobalt mine.
One of the most interesting things is how DQ fans thinks SE hates DQ, when the company is being run by Enix suits since the 2000s
>mfw we will be able to basically train a SD model in 6 months (if not now) to properly replicate toriyama, amano styles, and then train a music AI model to replicate uematsu, mitsuda, and ask chat gpt to write me a FF script in sakaguchi style and soon a video model to make the cutscenes in 1995 TV anime paper cell shading look
I don't give a shit about square, In six months I could technically make the assets to put in godot 4 to make my own real FF and not this piece of modern garbage.
Feel free to cope how nobody will make another FFIV or CT.
but it's okay because he lets my actual best friend live and do whatever he wants, despite buying out his mom&pop shopages ago
Can't say the same for many others in the industry (see Konami and Hudsonsoft)
>it'll be good
>but the profits will go to failing NFT projects
It's so demoralizing.
same with FFXIV and FFXVV
No wonder they’re so in bed with Epic and Sweeney Todd on the PC side of things.
Tbh, why would they change their business model when their charts are like this?
Idk about the Epic deal, crisis core was not on epic store, but they will keep doing deals with nintendo and sony
NFT and blockchain shit is one of the few terrible things the public has looked at and rejected. And this was with influencers, celebrities, and corporations all pushing for this shit. The mindless masses looked at the rank droppings of their inbred betters and said "I'd rather not."
It has to be a supremely stupid idea for that to happen.
Can someone in this thread explain this to me?
What do you want? an audio log of the text?
And this analysis is terrible
Yeah boi let's get those sweet sweet bored ape bucks! What's a deus ex anyways? We can make an even shittier cyberpunk dystopia here on Earth! Wooooo
*Dance party starts*
>XIV is going to die because Square
I love it. Get fucked shills
Square enix is so retarded i cant feel any pity for them.
>Does exclusives releases instead of multi play like from software and they then wonder why the fanbase never grows and why sales are so low.
>Rather than strengthening their existing ip they double down on AAA new ip games and have their kh,ff and dq suffer from 5 year releases and only 1 team working on each proven ip.
>Could have 2 teams working on 2 seperate mainline ff game instead we get Avengers,gotg,forspoken,babylons fall.
Only right thing they are doing is milking their up with mobile games.
Oh and remakes if it werent for the fact we arent getting a mainline game.
>Only right thing they are doing is milking their up with mobile games.
Every japanese company is doing that, what the fuck is this argument. Capcom is also doing mobile games
Luminous and their western studios were a waste of money but the mobile thing is something core to japanese companies not. In truth, all vidya companies want mobile games.
not even their mobile games are doing well. Within the last 2 years so many of their games have been shut down that the Nips have noticed and "square games only last a year" has become the new meme.
>Could have 2 teams working on 2 seperate mainline ff game instead we get Avengers,gotg,forspoken,babylons fall.
Putting any of those terrible teams on Final Fantasy would've been a terrible idea.
I have not seen someone seriously promote an NFT in almost a year. It was a fad. Move on.
SE are based. Stop doomposting.
Even Stonetoss doesn't shill NFTs anymore. Move on
Here is how I would fix Square-Enix:
>Final Fantasy XVII is a return to turn-based combat, with a job system like V or XII Zodiac
>After FFVIIR is finished, greenlight a prequel to FFX following Jecht, Auron, and Braska
>Put the Triangle Strategy team on a new FF Tactics
>Put Nomura on Verum Rex, give him whatever the fuck he asks for and let him finally make the magnum opus he's been trying to make for the past 15 years
>Form a contract with Monolith Soft/Nintendo to produce Chrono Break as a Nintendo/Steam exclusive with Xenoblade-level production values
>Dragon Quest can continue on as planned
>put Yoko Taro on a third Nier, or let him do an original idea if he wants to
How'd I do?
Good but you need new talent still in terms of character designers. Hard to find/train. SE is lacking the aesthetic skill they had in squaresoft days.
I agree with that, but I also can't think of anyone off the top of my head that would be good. Whoever does the art for the Triangle Strategy/Various Daylife/Octopath shit isn't really cutting it, though. They should also just stop making those low-budget games altogether.
Art is always tough, I don't know a good answer either.
ahahahahaha
Well, it's a good time to be a confidence man at least.
>Various Daylife
Honest question, did the dev team for this game run the title through one of those shitty machine learning translators and call it a day? Because that name is google translate tier.
Decent, but that's a whole lot of sequels to Final Fantasy and FF-adjacent series.
SE needs some new IPs that are distinctly different from FF to diversify their catalog.
Last week there was a FF interview where both the old and new president talked about this. And they do not need to make a new IP right now, they can release a new nier with AAA budget for now.
I disagree. They've been pumping out new IPs at a pretty steady rate with I Am Setsuna, Ocotopath, Triangle Strategy, etc., and largely they've been thoroughly mediocre. They need to just take all the money that's invested in those and put it towards their heavy-hitters, or towards reviving old beloved IPs like Chrono. I wouldn't mind seeing that money go towards a new Mana or Front Mission either.
>I Am Setsuna, Ocotopath, Triangle Strategy, etc.
This is what I mean by FF-adjacent series. They're technically "new", but they're really just relabeled Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy Tactics, since that seems to be all they know. Either in gameplay or aesthetics, just about everything SE is doing nowadays just seeps Final Fantasy.
I want them to do something genuinely NEW. Something DIFFERENT. Something that shows that they can still make games without trying to evoke their glory days.
>Something that shows that they can still make games without trying to evoke their glory days.
That's the thing though, they can't. They're horrible at it. So they need to just stick to what they can do for now and build their reputation back up, then maybe invest in a smaller studio to create an original IP later on.
??? they are jrpgs. It is like saying every shooter is COD. Saying octopath, dq and ff is the same is not true.
>It is like saying every shooter is COD
No, it' not the same thing at all. All those games could be labeled Final Fantasy and put some chocobos and it would fit perfectly and you know that.
So what would be your idea of a different jrpg? Or do you simply dont want them making jrpgs?
>So what would be your idea of a different jrpg?
One similar to Atelier, Megaman Legends, Persona...
Maybe they should make an actual sci fi one with no magic or fantasy elements. there are plenty of ways to make a JRPG that isn't just FF with another name.
REMINDER: The SE exes started 2023 with both shilling NFTs as well as fucking META. They are literally retarded manager babies who just swallow whatever manager magazines or people like Zuckerberg tell them.
I should know, my boss hired someone and invested 300k into getting a metaverse presence for us. What our company is making? Well we are creating little plastic parts used in manufacturing machines, strictly B2B. Why we need a fucking metaverse is anyones guess but here we are.
holy KEK anon
B2B is one of the funniest spaces for things like this. I anticipate a lot of meme AI going around for B2B as well.
We have already reached that point. "Let's use AI for this!" or "I found this consultant company using ChatGTP!" or "We have to double down on AI now or we will be left behind" are all things I heard last week alone.
I all for it. I love watching big companies race to the bottom.
>blockchain
Isn't that fad already dead and buried? They're not only pathetic for becoming trend chasers, they're also late as fuck.
>find something that works
>people really enjoy it
>completely trounce your biggest rival in the market
>people can't stop with the adulation over your game
>completely withdraw any support for you game sans a skeleton crew that barely does any content any more
I will never understand why they don't keep investing in XIV.
>completely withdraw any support for you game
because they're focused on what actually matters, the single player numbered FF game the same dev team is a part of.
Worked wonders the last time and I am sure Final Misery, Game of Thrones ripoff will also do amazing, especially as a PS5 exclusive.
>Game of Thrones ripoff
Every day I see this retard take and every day I feel older because of these retarded zoom-zooms.
They literally said it is one of their main inspirations.
That does not make it a ripoff, especially not with veteran devs who worked on Tactics, XII, XIV, and the pedigree going back to Tactics Ogre, which was released before the actual novel "A Game of Thrones" was even published.
I have no problem with either of the games you posted, I just hate the misery porn that GoT is. Too much fantasy hopped on that trend and the last thing I wanna see is that nonsense in a FF. Honestly, I hops Yoshida's "It is dark, really dark" spiel is just his usual exaggeration.
>hops Yoshida's "It is dark, really dark" spiel
What spiel? In recent interviews he always goes on to nuance that the game will have levity and hope.
It's literally what the localization team said about War of the Lions on PSP. That they were reading A Song of Fire and Ice and localized it with those books in mind. It's partly why I shit on War of the Lions because it's not any more accurate than the PS1 translation and mischaracterizes characters with the flowery bullshit Shakespearean language.
>Worked wonders the last time
10 million sales and the creation of the dev teams own subsidiary says yes it did.
Because said dev team were incompetent retards who couldn't cling onto versus anymore and fumbled everything they did with said studio is not going to change the fact that XV itself was a huge success.
Because you retards keep giving them money every month, every expansion opurchase, every mtx from the cash shop. Cancerous hitstain.
14 already has 300 devs and isnt as big as you think, stop being delusional
I still don't get what any of this actually means.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZJmAPX5q3Al9dt6d-wsAFaKDX5JjSZl1/view
I have, to this day, not understood where the difference between Square saving the info "Item A belongs to Anon" on a regular database and "Anon owns the NFT of Item A" is. Especially since apparently the fucking things can be stolen?
The fuck is the advantage of this shit?
if you want the actual technical info and the buzzwords, the NFT would exist on a public database that cannot be altered by anyone. Square Enix could in theory go to "Item A belongs to Anon" and change it or take it away, but if its a minted NFT, its 100% yours and you control ownership of it. Its a digital asset that cannot be taken away. Then there's some blockchain and immutable stuff I can go into but thats too much detail.
But then its also true that it could be stolen from you in the same way someone can break into your house if your account gets hacked or if you get scammed. And the worst part is if you get scammed, a GM cannot just revert it back to you because of the previous mentioned "block chain technology"
THere is no actual advantage to an NFT thoughever, its just the buzzwords in the first paragraph/
Is it wrong to think that greatest NFT value would be for businesses dealing with other businesses? Simplifying licensing deals?
>Simplifying licensing deals?
that is actually how NFTs were originally envisioned, as a way to set up digital licenses without all the middle men and with 100% transparency, like how copyrighting works and how all the information is public records. But essentially you're reinventing the wheel for something that isnt really broken.
Another thing is NFT art is a huge meme but the concept was that artists could essentially serialize their art so it couldnt be replicated illegally, which is extremely funny because AI art didnt take off back then yet. And then that blew up into a ponzi scheme the same way the real art market works but imploded.
Thank you, that makes sense.
>THere is no actual advantage to an NFT thoughever, its just the buzzwords in the first paragraph/
Thank you. I always get suHispanicious when companies so eagerly adopt and pioneer shit, because in most cases its a fucking scam towards the customer.
one more thing, but this is just purely conceptual and hasnt really worked yet because theres too many moving parts but if Square Enix for example made a fully build out NFT ecosystem with Squeenixcoin, you could use your NFT assets in one game and transfer it to another. Maybe you'll make a million Squeenix dollars in FFXIV 5.0 and then you can transfer it to another Squeenix MMO and use that there.
Kind of what this post is about
but it would never work because all MMO economies are fucked and full of gold farmers. But shareholders and old japanese men are retarded
>you could use your NFT assets in one game and transfer it to another.
But couldn't that be done entirely on their side without NFT? I have a square account so they could track how much Gil I have in game A and let me access it in game B as well. Since both games have to be compatible with that, why inconvenience the user by having him sign up for a NFT site/wallet, which I assume would be mandatory for that.
>But couldn't that be done entirely on their side without NFT?
also true, but I guess I left out some deeper details. Square Enix coin is built on Ethereum as most altcoins are. So you could trade your Square Enix Coin for say Nintendo Coin in the future if Nintendo also decides to make an NFT game.
The idea is that all NFT games would be compatible with eachother
>but that sounds retarded for a million reasons
yes
NTA but wouldn't that actually be something for pokemon? Like, if every shiny pokemon was basically an NFT with all its stats and such?
You're just moving in circles though, like everything to do with blockchain technology. Answers in search of a problem. What is making a pokemon an NFT going to accomplish that pokemon doesn't already do?
Keeping all your Pokémon inside a wallet of your ownership and moving them between games, trading outside of the games, etc. GF already allows some of this with Pokémon Bank but that is a subscription service, deletes all your Pokémon if you stop paying, will stop working soon and players won't be able to transfer their Pokémon from older games anymore.
In this case it would also work in favor of the company because it would make it harder for users to inject Pokémon into their games. There was an extremely limited event Chansey that came with Wish in 2004; yet every single Chansey you found online on the Sun/Moon era came from that event and had 31 IVs in every stat. With a blockchain every single Pokémon ever created could be a unique block and be owned by a single Trainer.
Of course, this all would be meaningless if the blockchain ends up being centralized shit. At that point it's not different from a regular server.
basically what
is saying, blockchain doesnt solve problems, it just puts a spin on it which is why it doesnt work after the initial hype.
NFT is just a buzzword when people really just want to say "supply and demand". TF2 has items worth 30k dollars cause they cant be obtained anymore.
The best usecase would be something like an online TCG, kinda like YGO Master Duel is. Players could keep their entire library of cards on the blockchain, move it between different games of the franchise and keep them outside of the game if you so desired.
Then again, anti-crypto gays would rather have the entire thing locked inside a single game and die when the servers go down than using blockchain technology because it scares them.
Retard
Is vidya a particularly shitty industry?
Yes, The things that customers accept in vidya are completely out-of-the-norm. Easily one of the most abusive provider-customer relationships I've ever seen.
its pretty funny how a video game can be released with a million bugs and abandoned and you just have to deal with it. Like imagine that in any other industry
Yup. Brutal stuff.
Yes, one of the worst. Insurance companies and used car salesmen wish they could be this sleazy.
Konami is even worse.
Konami is a gambling and health spa corporation that has a tiny video games arm working out of a shed out back of one of their 100 casino resorts.
Konami has a 5 million seller on Switch and multiple other 1 million sellers. They are doing better than Square in videogames.
That's pretty fucking sad that a casino resort company that doesn't care about video games at all is doing better than square.
Square is a Tifa Brothel company, prease understand.
>that doesn't care about video games
Neither does Square Enix anymore.
It's what happens when CFO's and CSO's become CEO's. When they guy at the top knows jack shit about videogames and most likely doesn't even play any, and is just moving through the corporate world trying to make high short term gains, you end up with situations like this.
It's the same with having a guy like Bobby Kotick in charge of Activision-Blizzard. He doesn't care about videogames, he cares about money.
Is there anyone even at Square who would be a good CEO? The only one I can think of that would be even remotely suited is Yujii Hori, but that guy's fundamentally a writer/ideasguy at heart so I don't know if he could do the business side of things.
Yuji horii seems like never wanted to be a president, just a creative. And he is 70
Kitase would be a good option because he actually worked doing videogames, but he is already reaching his 60s
>It's the same with having a guy like Bobby Kotick in charge of Activision-Blizzard. He doesn't care about videogames, he cares about money.
You can say a lot of things about Kotick, and I mean a lot of things, but the man is effective, for better or worse. Activision would not exist if he hadn't bought it and retooled it at the start of the 90s and COD would not be the juggernaut it was if he wasn't bending Microsoft and Sony's arms through the 360/PS3 generation to the present.
Every time any of the big four tries rediversifying their catalogs it's met with failures so bad they usually end up shuttering studios anyway, so blaming him turning all Activision studios into the COD factory is not a phenomenon unique to him.
All Kotick does is milk things until they're completely dry and destroy any innovation in the company. First it was Tony Hawk, then it was Guitar Hero, now it's CoD. When CoD is finally milked dry they'll just move onto something else.
You need to get out of the bubble if you think konami is bigger than SE because they have 1 5m seller game. Just team asano probably clears konami
Considering the money they invested in those games, which was next to nothing, I assure you they made them a lot more money than the FFVII train wreck.
Yeah, surely
That's because of gacha games and MMOS, though:
So you also do not know how to see graphic charts? The mmo has the lowest values.
Anon, what are you cooking. The hd section more than doubled from 2020 to 2022.
>Modern day Square Enix is like seeing your best friend in high school become a homeless drug addict. It's just sad.
But .. I stopped Cullen's liryum addiction, I FIXED HIM!
If a game actually allowed you to somehow make real money, third worlders would be multi boxing 20 bots on 10 different PCs and crash the economy in days.
Yes, this is the case. Online poker is enough proof for this.
I don't know if this was Squeenix's responsibility, but the fact Sleeping Dogs 2 never happened was a disaster. I think GTA4 had that mediocrity to it, Sleeping Dogs was flawed but the melee focus was rather interesting for an open world game similar to GTA, they only had to fix the driving to be less tedious and they'd have a solid sequel, instead the devs wandered, trying to do some online experiment and then went belly up, those dumb nips at Square should have pressured them to make a sequel, offering to publish it or whatever,
Wasn't Traid Wars Square's idea?
United Front already had ideas and plans for Sleeping Dogs 2, but they got fucked because Sleeping Dogs undersold whatver Square expectations were, and then Traid Wars was a failure.
...so when are we getting the new SaGa game?
There is both a new mana and saga being made, maybe end of the year? who knows.
As long as DQ survives, I don't care what happens to Square.
Buying Square was Enix's biggest mistake. Those fucking hacks haven't done a single thing right in this century.
Reminder that "blockchain technology" is literally just a public receipt.
That's it.
That's what the big scary future tech that everyone either abhors with all their might or devoutly fellatiates actually is. A public record of transactions.
>NFTs
Well, this is how it goes.
>https://store.eu.square-enix-games.com/en_EU/product/764204/final-fantasy-vii-bring-arts-action-figure-cloud-strife-digital-plus-edition
>This Square Enix Store exclusive version includes exchange tickets to redeem a digital certificate of authenticity and a digital version of the figure which can be enjoyed on PC or Smart Phone.*
>*In order to redeem digital certificate of authenticity and digital version of the figure, Enjin wallet app will be required. You are also required to create an account (free) with the Enjin NFT platform and agree to their terms and conditions. For more information visit here. https://enjin.io/products/wallet
What the fuck even is the "digital version"? Is it just jpegs of the figure, or do you get some kind of model viewer where you can rotate it like a Smash Bros. trophy? Either way this shit is fucking retarded.
Model viewer I'd assume. Yes retarded either way.
This is a meme but at least they sold it as an additional thing when you got the real figure.
True. People are too mean on SE
No company is your friend.
FF games defined my childhood and are still among my favourite games from back then. Heck, I'd even say XIV manages to catch a lot of what made those games so special. But holy shit it hurts seeing that company going full retard. I guess that's how Warcraft/Starcraft fans felt...
don't worry anon, everytime you mention their shitshow of decisions you get 500 posters defending them like their life depends on it kek
There is literally nothing wrong with spending every waking moment of your life correcting critics of SE online
i hate nuGanker so goddamn much
Blockchain, NFT, etc. etc. it just leaves a bad impression of your game if these terms are anywhere near it
Literally everything is going to become ancap smiley meme pay by the picosecond gnomish schizophrenia apocolypse two moer weeks
Pretty sure terrorist groups will start popping up like weeds at that point. People are already snapping here and there and ruining the entertainment further will only accelerate it exponentially.
fuck them
I think the more apt comparison would be your friend who has always been a moderate and seemingly intelligent guy suddenly becomes one of those fanatics who get into pyramid schemes and keep trying to do all sorts of retarded things to make money, and never listens to your recommendations that maybe he should go back to the honest, normal work he had before instead of throwing himself into nonsensical ventures.
Weebfags, I am sorry. You don't deserve this, no matter how stinky or illiterate you are.
your best friend was always a sketchy cunt, maybe it is not just that he got worse but also you who stopped accepting him as he was.
Imagine wanting to apply artificial scarcity to digital media that can be infinitely replicated with a simple copy and paste.
NFTs are like copyright on steroids
Except square enix have sucked since day 1. So basically your old friend has been a drug addict for 20 years and you've only just noticed.
>best friend
>scammed you into buying avengers game
no
I want Yoshi-P to leave and start his own company with Koji-Fox and Soken. Bring Ishikawa too.
Praying for this, that shit mmo would end and we would have more devs doing mainline FFs
low effort bait
yeah that shit mmo which saved the company and is currently keeping it afloat
why even give him a (You)
Saved them from what? from the same retarded team that made the mmo bomb? Are you retarded?
And where is the mmo keeping shit afloat when it cant even give 1/3 of the company's revenue
>quoting that post that was already berated
do better
Sure, berated
Are you smart enough to give any argument or will you larp a reality where it was berated?
you're truly retarded barry
Yeah, im barry because you cant beat raw data. Pathetic
I never saw those charts, thanks. I always saw people repeating that same argument but when you see real graphics... lol
>which saved the company
not true btw
These retards never saw a single yearly report from SE. The mmo does well, which makes them think it is keeping the company afloat because they act like teenagers towards their favorite musicians.
Bro really acted like reality where half of the FF team isnt working with a trash mmo isnt the best future ever.
stop talking to yourself moron zoomer
A woke homeless drug addict.
Sony getting read to swoop in and buy out Square?
JUST RELEASE KINGDOM HEARTS 4 ON EXISTING CONSOLES AND MAKE IT NOT SHIT YOU STUPID gayS
HAVE HAND REMAKE THE DS GAMES FOR SWITCH
THERE I JUST MADE YOU A FEW MILLION
I fucking love how much this game makes Ganker seethe.
It's literally just XV-kun talking to himself like always.
>NFT
Dullards
Imagine pissing off your fanbase this much? Like the people who have stayed with you since the 90s and now you fuck them off for
>le modern Goyslop of War/Devil My Cry audience
With shitty games like FF7R and FFXVI
So, how long does Squeenix have left?
My bet is they either get bought out by Son in 2025 or go defunct by 2027.
Im that highschool friend
Eh, Neo TWEWY was good at least (despite the flagging about how localization is the devil)
>single-handedly brings in billions of yen
>not helping keeping the company afloat
>single-handedly
*dragon quest also had an expansion
Cool. I hope they go under and commit seppku
this board really can't handle the fact FFXIV is doing Iron Man numbers
It really can't, and it's fucking sad.
People who push this shit just don't play games. >WHAT IF YOU PLAY MMO BUT U MAKE MONEY WHILE PLAYING
Well okay bitch that means I'm going against 50 bots and 50 chinese doing whatever it is that makes money 24/7.
>OH BUT IT'S RARE THO SMALL %
it does not matter how small of a % it is. people will farm it in abundance. None of these people have played the kind of videogame they're so adamant will be good for their get rich quick scheme. Everything will just have zero worth. Chang will let go of the ultra rare helmet for 4$ American so he can buy a bag of rice to feed the 5 generations of his family living in one room.
fantasia is keeping the company afloat when garbage like flopspoken is so bad the ceo gets decked like tabata
That's a pretty apt comparison
hold on we're saving FF again
where did this shit aboutt XIV keeping SE afloat even come from
I even see people say it brought SE out of the red but I ever see any proof
FFXIV is super valuable as a reliabe income from a gaas project, the game is also succesful. But i also never understood this narrative, maybe just to feel like it is the only thing doing well there? would be weird anyway
The suits sure say a lot of bullshit. But why act like the whole company is bombing besides your game is a good thing? Feels like the usual infighting between FF
It is weirder because we can list a path of releases and look that when a major game releases, like FF7R. The chart goes crazy(look at 2021).
pushed by xiv's own fans who drank too much of the coolaid
sure it makes money but gacha being super cheap and super profitable is the real breadwinner in the company and has been for almost a decade.
SE has repeated claimed FFXIV as the game that kept them in the black. Along with their mobile games (which are all failing nowadays)
Cultists really overrating what Yoshi-P did with 1.0