On the surface it seems like they're fine, much better even than what we had during the PS2 era and more recently PS3. The technology behind is on a completely different level and there has been an increase in complexity through added RPG mechanics and character progression systems. Even niche genre like stealth are now producing games with fully developed combat systems allowing for extra variety. However despite that modern games completely fall appart when it comes to gameplay, everything plays the same, and they are sabotaged by predatory monetization practices. Furthermore when it comes the type of experiences and stories games provide nowadays there's been a drastic drop in quality because games have to be politically correct and they are written by people who hate video games and despise their audience because they're failed writers that wanted to write movies and netflix shows.
Play a highly rated game from PS2 era, play a highly rated game from PS3 era and play a recent highly rated game that's not Elden Ring and the decline is evident.
What other options do you have?
It's either AAA shit or indieshit as far as western games are concerned. Western AA games pretty much don't exist anymore.
But you said western games specifically. If there are still good Japanese games releasing, as your post implies, then modern vidya is not shit because there are good games coming out.
Rpg mechanics add nothing and are superficial depth. When all potential emergent properties have been removed due to having too many very specific checks before anything activates it makes a very linear, predictable experience. Stat fluff doesn't change how you can play in any significant manner.
There were just as many bad games today as there were back then, and objectively more back in the pre-NES days. >B-BUT I REMEMBER HAVING FUN BACK THEN!
Kids have very low standards and will find anything fun because they are new to everything. >B-BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE BAD GAMES NOW?!
They existed back then. For every big memorable title there were at least 10 forgettable, shitty games that existed as shovelware, movie adaptations, or very quick cash grabs. >B-BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MICROTRANSACTIONS AND WHY DON'T I REMEMBER OLD BAD GAMES?
Because the internet wasn't around to shove it in your face like it is now. Doesn't mean there's any more or less of it. >B-BUT WHERE ARE THE GOOD GAMES?!
All over the place. As long as you haven't gotten to the point where you just hate video games or your standards are impossibly high to even enjoy a game, you can identify plenty.
In 10 years, we'll be seeing an entire generation of dudes in their 20s saying that games nowadays were super good while the games "nowadays" are bad. This happens all the fricking time in history. The older generation thinks the newer generation's media is shit.
The only exception I'd say is modern FPS multiplayer, which has suffered from 2010s nu-culture clownworld degeneration.
That's ludicrous. SimCity has huge problems with traffic and economy. The Sims has players making tens of thousands per day selling fruit. The Legend of Zelda has 1 open world game, and it's not even very fantasy-meets-reality sandbox. Call of Duty got worse by having approximately zero effective knowledge of how to make size-worthy maps. Character action games are mostly 2-button (light-heavy). Is somebody really supposed to play BR all day? MOBAs? Other lobby games? So what and how about amounts of characters and a persistent world?
There are documents thousands of years old where the writer basically says “old good, new bad” and complains about the previous generation and how much new stuff sucks.
Humans do not have free will. You’re just a bunch of robots that are programmed and react to stimuli. This trend will continue till humans go extinct in the next 300 years.
You are a perfect example of a programmed robot. You saw stimuli you didn’t like and replied with a programmed response imbedded into your brain that you have seen repeated millions of times before.
There were just as many bad games today as there were back then, and objectively more back in the pre-NES days. >B-BUT I REMEMBER HAVING FUN BACK THEN!
Kids have very low standards and will find anything fun because they are new to everything. >B-BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE BAD GAMES NOW?!
They existed back then. For every big memorable title there were at least 10 forgettable, shitty games that existed as shovelware, movie adaptations, or very quick cash grabs. >B-BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MICROTRANSACTIONS AND WHY DON'T I REMEMBER OLD BAD GAMES?
Because the internet wasn't around to shove it in your face like it is now. Doesn't mean there's any more or less of it. >B-BUT WHERE ARE THE GOOD GAMES?!
All over the place. As long as you haven't gotten to the point where you just hate video games or your standards are impossibly high to even enjoy a game, you can identify plenty.
In 10 years, we'll be seeing an entire generation of dudes in their 20s saying that games nowadays were super good while the games "nowadays" are bad. This happens all the fricking time in history. The older generation thinks the newer generation's media is shit.
The only exception I'd say is modern FPS multiplayer, which has suffered from 2010s nu-culture clownworld degeneration.
Oh sure shit games have always existed, but the difference is that now there is only shit games. Pick your flavor of AAA schlock or go play some fricking indie game, those are the only options nowadays. If it wasn't for Japan there literally wouldn't have been any good games at all released the last 8 years.
We have all this technology and computing power but modern vidya are simpler than they have ever been. It's all surface level graphics, that honestly don't look that much better than the 7th gen, and nothing underneath. Just flat boring simplistic games, with no attention to detail. Gaming as a medium has not evolved at all since the 7th gen.
>modern games suck
Really, in what way? >they have no gameplay
But several recently released and announced games have very deep gameplay mechanics. >those are pozzed games with woke characters
Ah, so it was never about the "gameplay" was it?
Most modern games just copy elements from past games. I'm not even a boomer but the games from the 90s/00s often tried something new, not always sucessfull, sometimes really janky but at least you could feel that the developers where invested in the game while you play.
Yeah, the thing is I was born '92 but played most games a few years or even more than 5 years after release because I had such shit PCs back then. But I'm more interested in older games even if they look like crap (except the art design) because most of them are just more interesting than the 50th Far Cry, CoD, BF crap. I really liked open world games when they first came out but now it's just fricking boring always the same crap, huge map with nothing to do in it and almost every open world game would function just fine without it.
Theyve already proven and shown that corporate shils are rampant here. If any thread is being watched by the corporate bug people it's one talking about modern games.
Just because you're being paid slightly more than McDonald's workers doesn't mean you're better than them. At least they provide a service you pathetic shills.
How many free updates and free content did Ace Combat 7 get?
How many free updates and free content did BFV by Electronic Arts get?
Agreed, Western games shit all over the gameplay of East.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>first video
is that even gameplay? looks like a trailer. if it's a shitty montage, then frick your montages, I want to see raw uncut gameplay that isn't manipulated to look like a trailer, because that's not what most players will see and it speaks nothing to how the game actually plays. secondly, these two games are not comparable, so I don't even know why you're placing them adjacent to one another, let alone the "point" you're trying to make. talk about being disingenuous. also, didn't you mention ubishit? why are you showing something made by a different company as a positive example of what they can make?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Too obese to post gameplay yourself?
If you follow the thread, I know very difficult for you facebook moms, you can see I was talking about Electronic Arts (EA) in order to further trigger you after you were triggered by Ubi. Triggered so much that you can't let Ubi go now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>triggered
the only thing I could potentially be triggered by is the notion that I, or anyone else, gives a shit about what you have to say regarding this or any topic, and that anyone is wasting time being "triggered" by the moronation that spews from your fingertips. k i l l y o u r s e l f s h i l l
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wow death threats now over some text? You are quite triggered. Maybe have some warm milk to calm down.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>death threats
no, I want you to do it. unless you have no agency? how about you have some warm milk to calm down, homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wow you copied what I said, and put it back on me? Quite clever! >no u
2 years ago
Anonymous
take your (you) and frick off already, god damn. your taste is shit, you talk like a gay and your shit's all moronic.
You're absolutely schizo if you think Ganker threads are full of corporate shills. It would cost minimum $50k to hire somebody (not just employee salary, total hiring costs for the employer). A popular Ganker thread might get a couple hundred views at most, dwindling to the dozens by bottom of the thread. The only way that cost/benefit maths out is if you can win over extremely dedicated spenders, e.g. otakus. If any shilling is happening on Ganker it is 100% for titillating anime gacha.
nah, it doesn't cost much to hire a marketing firm comprised of mostly third world indians who know enough english to communicate on a site like this and who just produce talking points as rehearsed by their management who generate a script based on what threads they want you to create. it'd be easy and cheap for any given multinational billion dollar corporation to do this. they're already paying for reviews, they already pay billions in marketing campaigns, and so of course you'd like to posit that believing such a thing is grounds for being sanctioned in a mental institution but that's just part of the ploy, isn't it? but go ahead and keep up the facade. you're fooling nobody.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you talk like a gay and your shit's all moronic.
You copy and paste the words of others due to your innate lacking.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're a dicksmoking homosexual who thinks he's relevant. have a nice day, homosexual. I reiterate. have a nice day.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, you don't need to be triggered, it's just text on a screen. Drink the milk.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is the last reply you'll get out of me, you fricking shitsmearing imbecile. go on, have the last word, it's not like you said anything of value thus far. what's a few more posts, some "text" as you call it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ok, thanks. I hope you've been able to come to terms with the simple fact that modern Western games defeat Eastern games in terms of graphics, gameplay, content, and support.
2 years ago
Anonymous
See now the actual gamers will come now after you get past the racism bulletpoint because they know it's not racism, it's lack of quality because of modern corporate culture pushing equality of outcome as opposed to equality of opportunity. Time for you to leave shill, the death threats and coom posting will come if you stay.
The problem is that modern games are not what they should have become. The previous era of games were filled with many failed games and many revolutionary games; mainly because the medium was relatively new and there was a potential for very high reward if the devs risked going outside the preconceived formula.
Nowadays because of corporate and beuracracy risk is minmized and instead of AAA developers making a new game with a new engine and new gameplay they reuse the same formula over and over and assume that if they add a couple of ((unique)) features like a grappling hook and then up the graphics a bit then it can make just enough to please the corporate overlords.
So all in all, the reason all modern games are shit is the same reason many other industries are shit. The big boys prioritize money over art and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
This. Also the shit is still selling and making profit partly because the market has become so big and young people think it's normal for play a F2P game and pay hundreds of dollars for some cosmetic shit or gameplay items.
The problem is that modern games are not what they should have become. The previous era of games were filled with many failed games and many revolutionary games; mainly because the medium was relatively new and there was a potential for very high reward if the devs risked going outside the preconceived formula.
Nowadays because of corporate and beuracracy risk is minmized and instead of AAA developers making a new game with a new engine and new gameplay they reuse the same formula over and over and assume that if they add a couple of ((unique)) features like a grappling hook and then up the graphics a bit then it can make just enough to please the corporate overlords.
So all in all, the reason all modern games are shit is the same reason many other industries are shit. The big boys prioritize money over art and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Kojima prioritized Art over money and it made polchan hate him.
Pretty much this. Idk why but people from Ganker and even in a few discord communties seem to be going through a massive contrarian phase and they keep on saying that video games suck and that they're "growing up" and have jobs and shit like that and meanwhile they're depressed as ever.
Pretty much this. Idk why but people from Ganker and even in a few discord communties seem to be going through a massive contrarian phase and they keep on saying that video games suck and that they're "growing up" and have jobs and shit like that and meanwhile they're depressed as ever.
Nah. You two are either fricking moronic or corporate shills doing damage control. No zoomer in 20 years will look back fondly at the memories he made playing ass creed 6 or #5 3rd person space horror game collectors edition with included Funko pop
Ive seen many conversations about asscreed origins being better than valhalla, as well as fond memories of Dead Space 3 such as its coop and hallucinations. Theres plenty of last CoD game was better than this CoD game for every CoD game that released. You can see the same with the latest jap games, EDF 4.1 was better than 5, and now people will say 5 is better than 6 which lost the SOUL when it comes out.
There is nothing in existence where someone wont say the previous iteration was better than the next, and that trend isnt gonna suddenly stop.
Obviously there's a select group of people who grew up playing shit they're comfortable with so any improvement upon said shit is welcomed. It's the barbie but with hat (9.99 more) mentality.
But the amount of new players they will ***retain*** is very little because people will rarely pay full priced for a derivative of a derivate of a derivative but this time with gun skins!
I still stick to my point that tossing the blame to the target demographic by saying they're jaded and nostalgia-starved is typical corporate blame shifting. It's the money and will always be the money.
>Using money and accolades by proven paid jounalists to indicate success. >10 million sold in a global market across different platforms >It doesn't matter if we're selling to the same people who suffer from sunk-cost.
Ooh money money money! More money for the overlords means the game is great and impactful!
I'll admit you're right the moment you can walk up to 100 random teenagers and they say that their favourite game franchise is some Ubisoft garbage
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They dont retain players >Look here is proof they retain players >FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 years ago
Anonymous
When did I say it was fake news? C'mon use the fricking checklist that your they/them boss gave you. Call me a racist in order to try to invalidate my claims. For frick sakes man I thought I was arguing with someone actually decent. You've disappointed yet another person
2 years ago
Anonymous
>When did I say it was fake news? >proven paid jounalists
You most likely are racist, you brought it up out of nowhere. Bit of a guilty conscience, eh?
2 years ago
Anonymous
racism is based
2 years ago
Anonymous
So, the claim which he made in his head, that I would call him(an anonymous user on Ganker) racist, is actually very valid. Wow, who could have guessed?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Getting real tired of /misc/acks pretending they're gameplay purists then post shit like this that immediately outs them as storygays. Look at the credits for practically any video game. Gameplay and engine programmers are still largely white dudes. Most of the women and minority employees are artists and writers.
2 years ago
Anonymous
is that the reason for the push for "story" in vidya? so women and Black folk can say they helped make the game?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Heeeere we go! See this shill did it correctly. You have to call me a racist for this to work.
As long as the shooting is good in any video game i'll buy it. I really couldn't give a shit about le deep story in a video game. I'd rather watch a movie if that was the case.
Here's what's really bugging those people: they're angry that they have to be adults. They long for their lost youth, and they hate having to be responsible for themselves. If they had their way, they would turn the clock back to their childhoods and make it stay there forever. No progression, no change, because change is death, change is the enemy. And, of course, their perception of their childhood is distorted by nostalgia. They remember the good bits of their childhood, but not the bad bits. Those who grew up in the 80s remember playing video games on the NES and watching cartoons like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, but they probably don't remember the world being on the brink of nuclear annihilation. Because they were dumb kids playing video games and not really paying attention to stuff that's dead boring to kids, like the news. They were just waiting for the news to end so they can watch more cartoons. My point being that they hate modern games because they're blinded by nostalgia.
Theyve already proven and shown that corporate shils are rampant here. If any thread is being watched by the corporate bug people it's one talking about modern games.
Just because you're being paid slightly more than McDonald's workers doesn't mean you're better than them. At least they provide a service you pathetic shills.
You're absolutely schizo if you think Ganker threads are full of corporate shills. It would cost minimum $50k to hire somebody (not just employee salary, total hiring costs for the employer). A popular Ganker thread might get a couple hundred views at most, dwindling to the dozens by bottom of the thread. The only way that cost/benefit maths out is if you can win over extremely dedicated spenders, e.g. otakus. If any shilling is happening on Ganker it is 100% for titillating anime gacha.
While I agree threads are not all filled with paid corporate shills, especially since I am sitting in my underwear in my room being called a corporate shill by mind raped morons, you vastly underestimate how popular Ganker is. It's one of the most visited websites on the internet and constantly linked back and forth to other websites with it making international news more regularly than ever. >As of 2022, Ganker receives more than 22 million unique monthly visitors, of which approximately half are from the United States.
they suck, like really bad. it's almost looking like a buildup to something similar to the atari crash of the 80's. i'm surprised cyberpunk wasn't the new E.T., looks like we've got even further to go downhill in quality
A quick look at upcoming "AAA" games in next 3 years:
Dragons Dogma 2 - Multiplatform
Street Fighter 6 - Multiplatform
Resident Evil 4 Remake - Multiplatform
Jedi Survivor - Multiplatform
Pragmata - Multiplatform
Sonic Frontiers - Multiplatform
Calisto Protocol - Multiplatform
Hogwarts Legacy - Multiplatform
Dead Space Remake - Multiplatform
Starfield - PC and Xbox
Atomic Heart - Multiplatform
FF7 remake part 2 - 1 year PS5 exclusive?
God of War 2 - 1-2 year PS5/PS4 exclusive?
Alan Wake 2 - Multiplatform
Spider-Man 2 - 1-2 year PS5 exclusive?
Wolverine - 1-2 year PS5 exclusive?
BOTW 2 - Nintendo only
Metroid Prime 4 - Nintendo only
Maybe I missed some stuff in the list off the top of my head but yes most of them seem pretty meh. Just zelda and metroid and dd2 and re4 remake for me.
If we talk about modern big releases, they can be compared to licensed schlock made some 20 years ago that had no merit to itself beside the name. There is nothing outright wrong with them generally, but there's also nothing interesting or unique about them. And if we take budgets, manpower and dev times into account, we have fairly basic and mediocre games developed for years by hundreds of people that will be forgotten in a month or two.
You can tell the gaming industry is really dogshit in current year when you look at all the released and upcoming games and realize 90% of them are sequels and not original games.
the only things to look forward to are dragons dogma 2 and baldurs gate 3
everything- literally everything else is slop
if modern developers had any soul the kotor remake would be worth it, but we all know its going to be garbage
Gaming has almost always sucked.
Creator of System Shock/Thief went bankrupt.
Creator of Fallout went bankrupt.
Creator of Deus Ex went bankrupt.
Only the most shallow drivel or small indie gems are allowed to prosper.
divinity original sin 2, path of exile, tlou2, prey, elden ring, mario odyssey. thats just a few of the good modern games i've played this last year. Ganker is filled with contrarian brains fried by memes and buzzwords.
>tlou2
trash >divinity original sin 2
good but it was released in 2017, might as well just say dark souls 3 is still relevant. >path of exile
anything f2p is automatically suspect, people say warframe is a good game too. I know from experience that it's just a (pretty boring) timesink. I doubt this game is any different, but look I'm open to being wrong. >prey
I don't know about this one, it's a remake though and remakes are always suspect as well. again, another game that was released in 2017. yeah, five years is what he asked for but you're really straddling that line, ain't you >elden ring
it's just dark souls 4 open world. is it good? yeah, if you like dark souls. is it perfect? people are too enamored by its sheen at this point to really think about its flaws but once "the dust as settled" we'll really see what people think >mario odyssey
they've been building upon mario 64 for the past 15 or so years, because it's just mario 64 with some new features then yeah I'd assume it's good, but I stopped playing nintendo games some time ago, not really interested in anything else they have to offer because they just produce 80 quadrillion iterations of the every aspect of previous products (music, characters, gameplay loop, etc).
>Arkane's Prey is largely unrelated to the 2006 game Prey developed by Human Head Studios, and is considered a reimagining of the intellectual property set in a new narrative. >largely unrelated >reimagining of the intellectual property
ok so not a direct remake of any previous game, still seems like it's somehow related to the ip as a while
>[Prey (2017)] does not use any of the planned sequel's assets, and only incorporates the previous game's name and the broad theme of the protagonist being hunted by aliens
wow
ok homosexuals, how about you tell me why you think it's worth playing? maybe if you produce a half intelligible explanation I'll acknowledge the sentiment that gaming isn't 100% totally shit these days.
Modern gaming should be just anything within the last decade. I think 5 years is simply too short of a cutoff date. It should be in the last decade or at least at the start of the current console gen
idk. I just played the demo for metal:hellsinger and this is probably the first time i've been hyped for a game since mortal kombat 9. it's not even a particularly great game, i just loved the frick out of it for whatever reason.
i think people are just jaded with the amount of trash that gets released every week so it's really hard to find something that clicks again.
Too dumbed down where moves track for miles, are made on into one size fits all attacks, and/or are simplified into too little options. I don't like games that play themselves, it isn't fun. I also enjoy high risk games, shit like MvC.
Because morons here think AAA games represent the whole medium and wonder why they're soulless corporate garbage when they only exist to pump money out of stupid normals
Meanwhile indiechads know gaming has never been better
Because they do.
Nuh Uh
I don't, I talk about the games I like frequently. None of them are AAA however.
Because that's their entire personality
Hating games
A lot of them look like shit honestly, too brightly colored. Here, Ganker's just getting older and/or just burnt ourselves out on video games.
On the surface it seems like they're fine, much better even than what we had during the PS2 era and more recently PS3. The technology behind is on a completely different level and there has been an increase in complexity through added RPG mechanics and character progression systems. Even niche genre like stealth are now producing games with fully developed combat systems allowing for extra variety. However despite that modern games completely fall appart when it comes to gameplay, everything plays the same, and they are sabotaged by predatory monetization practices. Furthermore when it comes the type of experiences and stories games provide nowadays there's been a drastic drop in quality because games have to be politically correct and they are written by people who hate video games and despise their audience because they're failed writers that wanted to write movies and netflix shows.
Play a highly rated game from PS2 era, play a highly rated game from PS3 era and play a recent highly rated game that's not Elden Ring and the decline is evident.
>play a recent highly rated game that's not Elden Ring
Nice try gay
>the ONE game out of thousands that have released in the last 5 years should be your basis for how the entire gaming market is
IDK man stop playing every shitty snoy and ubishit game and everything out there is unironically not that bad
The only people who post stupid shit like this only plays AAA. Fricking why?
What other options do you have?
It's either AAA shit or indieshit as far as western games are concerned. Western AA games pretty much don't exist anymore.
I like BBC games
Don't play those games, then.
Exactly, hence modern vidya is shit.
But you said western games specifically. If there are still good Japanese games releasing, as your post implies, then modern vidya is not shit because there are good games coming out.
Stfu you Black personjewtroony
>Western AA games are fine when it comes to fps the one thing japs never get
shit, this kind of proves both points
>noooooo that criticism only applies to 99% of the industry
really anon?
Rpg mechanics add nothing and are superficial depth. When all potential emergent properties have been removed due to having too many very specific checks before anything activates it makes a very linear, predictable experience. Stat fluff doesn't change how you can play in any significant manner.
That's ludicrous. SimCity has huge problems with traffic and economy. The Sims has players making tens of thousands per day selling fruit. The Legend of Zelda has 1 open world game, and it's not even very fantasy-meets-reality sandbox. Call of Duty got worse by having approximately zero effective knowledge of how to make size-worthy maps. Character action games are mostly 2-button (light-heavy). Is somebody really supposed to play BR all day? MOBAs? Other lobby games? So what and how about amounts of characters and a persistent world?
>I know, I'll reply to myself! That will make it work
Shit thread
There are documents thousands of years old where the writer basically says “old good, new bad” and complains about the previous generation and how much new stuff sucks.
Humans do not have free will. You’re just a bunch of robots that are programmed and react to stimuli. This trend will continue till humans go extinct in the next 300 years.
>new good = old bad
>if you disagree you're a jadded contrarian
You will eat ze bugs homosexual.
You are a perfect example of a programmed robot. You saw stimuli you didn’t like and replied with a programmed response imbedded into your brain that you have seen repeated millions of times before.
Thanks for the demonstration.
Yes a Greek philosopher held this stance. What you morons that bring it up fail to understand is that ancient Greece collapsed and he was right
What you got from my post was that 1 single man in history held this sentiment?
There were just as many bad games today as there were back then, and objectively more back in the pre-NES days.
>B-BUT I REMEMBER HAVING FUN BACK THEN!
Kids have very low standards and will find anything fun because they are new to everything.
>B-BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE BAD GAMES NOW?!
They existed back then. For every big memorable title there were at least 10 forgettable, shitty games that existed as shovelware, movie adaptations, or very quick cash grabs.
>B-BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MICROTRANSACTIONS AND WHY DON'T I REMEMBER OLD BAD GAMES?
Because the internet wasn't around to shove it in your face like it is now. Doesn't mean there's any more or less of it.
>B-BUT WHERE ARE THE GOOD GAMES?!
All over the place. As long as you haven't gotten to the point where you just hate video games or your standards are impossibly high to even enjoy a game, you can identify plenty.
In 10 years, we'll be seeing an entire generation of dudes in their 20s saying that games nowadays were super good while the games "nowadays" are bad. This happens all the fricking time in history. The older generation thinks the newer generation's media is shit.
The only exception I'd say is modern FPS multiplayer, which has suffered from 2010s nu-culture clownworld degeneration.
Oh sure shit games have always existed, but the difference is that now there is only shit games. Pick your flavor of AAA schlock or go play some fricking indie game, those are the only options nowadays. If it wasn't for Japan there literally wouldn't have been any good games at all released the last 8 years.
I still play old games and I miss my complex fighting games. Zoomers need everything to be linear and straight forward.
WTF
We have all this technology and computing power but modern vidya are simpler than they have ever been. It's all surface level graphics, that honestly don't look that much better than the 7th gen, and nothing underneath. Just flat boring simplistic games, with no attention to detail. Gaming as a medium has not evolved at all since the 7th gen.
>Games are simpler than theyve ever been
terminal nostalgia
Name ten(10) good games in the last 4 years
>redditfrog
>moronic, worthless opinion
have a nice day
People here are poor neets so they dont really play modern games, they just pirate old shit
Name 10 good games released within the past year.
Listing 10 good games from mid-2001 to mid-2002 is easy as frick
because western devs keep putting Black folk and female protags in them
Can't wait for how hard Forspoken bombs
>modern games suck
Really, in what way?
>they have no gameplay
But several recently released and announced games have very deep gameplay mechanics.
>those are pozzed games with woke characters
Ah, so it was never about the "gameplay" was it?
don’t play anything made by a studio under or by a corporation homosexual, problem solved
Western game has women
>reee game is shit
Jap game that looks worse, plays worse, and has less support has trannies and women
>I love zip heads!!!
Hehe old thing GOOD
New thing BAD
>redditfrog
>likes current gaming
>underage most likely
kys
Most modern games just copy elements from past games. I'm not even a boomer but the games from the 90s/00s often tried something new, not always sucessfull, sometimes really janky but at least you could feel that the developers where invested in the game while you play.
What? You aren’t even 70+ years old??
Yeah, the thing is I was born '92 but played most games a few years or even more than 5 years after release because I had such shit PCs back then. But I'm more interested in older games even if they look like crap (except the art design) because most of them are just more interesting than the 50th Far Cry, CoD, BF crap. I really liked open world games when they first came out but now it's just fricking boring always the same crap, huge map with nothing to do in it and almost every open world game would function just fine without it.
They really do. Now prove you're not some astroturfing corporate shill
Ubisoft supports and updates their games with free content more than any jap company in existence. Buy Ubisoft games.
>jewbisoft
tell me you're a shill without telling me you're a shill
How many free updates and free content did Ace Combat 7 get?
How many free updates and free content did BFV by Electronic Arts get?
West always beats East.
who cares about free updates if your base game is shit.
Agreed, Western games shit all over the gameplay of East.
>first video
is that even gameplay? looks like a trailer. if it's a shitty montage, then frick your montages, I want to see raw uncut gameplay that isn't manipulated to look like a trailer, because that's not what most players will see and it speaks nothing to how the game actually plays. secondly, these two games are not comparable, so I don't even know why you're placing them adjacent to one another, let alone the "point" you're trying to make. talk about being disingenuous. also, didn't you mention ubishit? why are you showing something made by a different company as a positive example of what they can make?
Too obese to post gameplay yourself?
If you follow the thread, I know very difficult for you facebook moms, you can see I was talking about Electronic Arts (EA) in order to further trigger you after you were triggered by Ubi. Triggered so much that you can't let Ubi go now.
>triggered
the only thing I could potentially be triggered by is the notion that I, or anyone else, gives a shit about what you have to say regarding this or any topic, and that anyone is wasting time being "triggered" by the moronation that spews from your fingertips. k i l l y o u r s e l f s h i l l
Wow death threats now over some text? You are quite triggered. Maybe have some warm milk to calm down.
>death threats
no, I want you to do it. unless you have no agency? how about you have some warm milk to calm down, homosexual.
Wow you copied what I said, and put it back on me? Quite clever!
>no u
take your (you) and frick off already, god damn. your taste is shit, you talk like a gay and your shit's all moronic.
nah, it doesn't cost much to hire a marketing firm comprised of mostly third world indians who know enough english to communicate on a site like this and who just produce talking points as rehearsed by their management who generate a script based on what threads they want you to create. it'd be easy and cheap for any given multinational billion dollar corporation to do this. they're already paying for reviews, they already pay billions in marketing campaigns, and so of course you'd like to posit that believing such a thing is grounds for being sanctioned in a mental institution but that's just part of the ploy, isn't it? but go ahead and keep up the facade. you're fooling nobody.
>you talk like a gay and your shit's all moronic.
You copy and paste the words of others due to your innate lacking.
You're a dicksmoking homosexual who thinks he's relevant. have a nice day, homosexual. I reiterate. have a nice day.
Anon, you don't need to be triggered, it's just text on a screen. Drink the milk.
This is the last reply you'll get out of me, you fricking shitsmearing imbecile. go on, have the last word, it's not like you said anything of value thus far. what's a few more posts, some "text" as you call it?
Ok, thanks. I hope you've been able to come to terms with the simple fact that modern Western games defeat Eastern games in terms of graphics, gameplay, content, and support.
See now the actual gamers will come now after you get past the racism bulletpoint because they know it's not racism, it's lack of quality because of modern corporate culture pushing equality of outcome as opposed to equality of opportunity. Time for you to leave shill, the death threats and coom posting will come if you stay.
Used to play video games, no longer do much but the only ones I even feel the slightest urge to replay are over 10 years old, except Max Payne 3
The problem is that modern games are not what they should have become. The previous era of games were filled with many failed games and many revolutionary games; mainly because the medium was relatively new and there was a potential for very high reward if the devs risked going outside the preconceived formula.
Nowadays because of corporate and beuracracy risk is minmized and instead of AAA developers making a new game with a new engine and new gameplay they reuse the same formula over and over and assume that if they add a couple of ((unique)) features like a grappling hook and then up the graphics a bit then it can make just enough to please the corporate overlords.
So all in all, the reason all modern games are shit is the same reason many other industries are shit. The big boys prioritize money over art and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
This. Also the shit is still selling and making profit partly because the market has become so big and young people think it's normal for play a F2P game and pay hundreds of dollars for some cosmetic shit or gameplay items.
This is the reason
Kojima prioritized Art over money and it made polchan hate him.
i think a majority of them do suck but people in here are going through a le everything sucks phase
Pretty much this. Idk why but people from Ganker and even in a few discord communties seem to be going through a massive contrarian phase and they keep on saying that video games suck and that they're "growing up" and have jobs and shit like that and meanwhile they're depressed as ever.
Nah. You two are either fricking moronic or corporate shills doing damage control. No zoomer in 20 years will look back fondly at the memories he made playing ass creed 6 or #5 3rd person space horror game collectors edition with included Funko pop
Ive seen many conversations about asscreed origins being better than valhalla, as well as fond memories of Dead Space 3 such as its coop and hallucinations. Theres plenty of last CoD game was better than this CoD game for every CoD game that released. You can see the same with the latest jap games, EDF 4.1 was better than 5, and now people will say 5 is better than 6 which lost the SOUL when it comes out.
There is nothing in existence where someone wont say the previous iteration was better than the next, and that trend isnt gonna suddenly stop.
Obviously there's a select group of people who grew up playing shit they're comfortable with so any improvement upon said shit is welcomed. It's the barbie but with hat (9.99 more) mentality.
But the amount of new players they will ***retain*** is very little because people will rarely pay full priced for a derivative of a derivate of a derivative but this time with gun skins!
I still stick to my point that tossing the blame to the target demographic by saying they're jaded and nostalgia-starved is typical corporate blame shifting. It's the money and will always be the money.
>players they will ***retain*** is very little
>Using money and accolades by proven paid jounalists to indicate success.
>10 million sold in a global market across different platforms
>It doesn't matter if we're selling to the same people who suffer from sunk-cost.
Ooh money money money! More money for the overlords means the game is great and impactful!
I'll admit you're right the moment you can walk up to 100 random teenagers and they say that their favourite game franchise is some Ubisoft garbage
>They dont retain players
>Look here is proof they retain players
>FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When did I say it was fake news? C'mon use the fricking checklist that your they/them boss gave you. Call me a racist in order to try to invalidate my claims. For frick sakes man I thought I was arguing with someone actually decent. You've disappointed yet another person
>When did I say it was fake news?
>proven paid jounalists
You most likely are racist, you brought it up out of nowhere. Bit of a guilty conscience, eh?
racism is based
So, the claim which he made in his head, that I would call him(an anonymous user on Ganker) racist, is actually very valid. Wow, who could have guessed?
Getting real tired of /misc/acks pretending they're gameplay purists then post shit like this that immediately outs them as storygays. Look at the credits for practically any video game. Gameplay and engine programmers are still largely white dudes. Most of the women and minority employees are artists and writers.
is that the reason for the push for "story" in vidya? so women and Black folk can say they helped make the game?
Heeeere we go! See this shill did it correctly. You have to call me a racist for this to work.
As long as the shooting is good in any video game i'll buy it. I really couldn't give a shit about le deep story in a video game. I'd rather watch a movie if that was the case.
>Why do people here insist that they do???
Here's what's really bugging those people: they're angry that they have to be adults. They long for their lost youth, and they hate having to be responsible for themselves. If they had their way, they would turn the clock back to their childhoods and make it stay there forever. No progression, no change, because change is death, change is the enemy. And, of course, their perception of their childhood is distorted by nostalgia. They remember the good bits of their childhood, but not the bad bits. Those who grew up in the 80s remember playing video games on the NES and watching cartoons like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, but they probably don't remember the world being on the brink of nuclear annihilation. Because they were dumb kids playing video games and not really paying attention to stuff that's dead boring to kids, like the news. They were just waiting for the news to end so they can watch more cartoons. My point being that they hate modern games because they're blinded by nostalgia.
Theyve already proven and shown that corporate shils are rampant here. If any thread is being watched by the corporate bug people it's one talking about modern games.
Just because you're being paid slightly more than McDonald's workers doesn't mean you're better than them. At least they provide a service you pathetic shills.
You're absolutely schizo if you think Ganker threads are full of corporate shills. It would cost minimum $50k to hire somebody (not just employee salary, total hiring costs for the employer). A popular Ganker thread might get a couple hundred views at most, dwindling to the dozens by bottom of the thread. The only way that cost/benefit maths out is if you can win over extremely dedicated spenders, e.g. otakus. If any shilling is happening on Ganker it is 100% for titillating anime gacha.
This fricking moron thinks a corporate shill is someone whose job it is to ONLY defend the IP.
While I agree threads are not all filled with paid corporate shills, especially since I am sitting in my underwear in my room being called a corporate shill by mind raped morons, you vastly underestimate how popular Ganker is. It's one of the most visited websites on the internet and constantly linked back and forth to other websites with it making international news more regularly than ever.
>As of 2022, Ganker receives more than 22 million unique monthly visitors, of which approximately half are from the United States.
Probably just europoors who haven't played anything besides CSGO since it released but still feel the need to comment on things.
nostalgia and american politics obsessed brainrot
they suck, like really bad. it's almost looking like a buildup to something similar to the atari crash of the 80's. i'm surprised cyberpunk wasn't the new E.T., looks like we've got even further to go downhill in quality
A quick look at upcoming "AAA" games in next 3 years:
Dragons Dogma 2 - Multiplatform
Street Fighter 6 - Multiplatform
Resident Evil 4 Remake - Multiplatform
Jedi Survivor - Multiplatform
Pragmata - Multiplatform
Sonic Frontiers - Multiplatform
Calisto Protocol - Multiplatform
Hogwarts Legacy - Multiplatform
Dead Space Remake - Multiplatform
Starfield - PC and Xbox
Atomic Heart - Multiplatform
FF7 remake part 2 - 1 year PS5 exclusive?
God of War 2 - 1-2 year PS5/PS4 exclusive?
Alan Wake 2 - Multiplatform
Spider-Man 2 - 1-2 year PS5 exclusive?
Wolverine - 1-2 year PS5 exclusive?
BOTW 2 - Nintendo only
Metroid Prime 4 - Nintendo only
aside from the nintendo stuff that is a list of atrocities
Maybe I missed some stuff in the list off the top of my head but yes most of them seem pretty meh. Just zelda and metroid and dd2 and re4 remake for me.
Dragon's Dogma 2 is the only thing I care about.
Don't care.
Callisto might be cool. Unfortunate acronym though. Not AAA but I have some hope for Star Ocean
There's a lot of stuff that look really good on this list
If we talk about modern big releases, they can be compared to licensed schlock made some 20 years ago that had no merit to itself beside the name. There is nothing outright wrong with them generally, but there's also nothing interesting or unique about them. And if we take budgets, manpower and dev times into account, we have fairly basic and mediocre games developed for years by hundreds of people that will be forgotten in a month or two.
Saying they do makes you look cool.
name one good modern game
We don't play games. We come here to complain and be racist.
Yeah, and the rest can go back to discord.
You can tell the gaming industry is really dogshit in current year when you look at all the released and upcoming games and realize 90% of them are sequels and not original games.
dont forget remakes
I cant wait for Final Fantasy 16, EDF 6, Ace Cobat 8, Yakuza 9, Soulsring 7, Persona 6
>Final Fantasy 16, EDF 6, Ace Cobat 8, Yakuza 9, Soulsring 7, Persona 6
4/6 ain't bad t.bh
the only things to look forward to are dragons dogma 2 and baldurs gate 3
everything- literally everything else is slop
if modern developers had any soul the kotor remake would be worth it, but we all know its going to be garbage
>kotor remake
woke
Name one (1) good game released in the past 5 years.
crap
Gaming has almost always sucked.
Creator of System Shock/Thief went bankrupt.
Creator of Fallout went bankrupt.
Creator of Deus Ex went bankrupt.
Only the most shallow drivel or small indie gems are allowed to prosper.
Play far cry 5 or 6 for 10 minutes.
Ok, sounds very fun!
divinity original sin 2, path of exile, tlou2, prey, elden ring, mario odyssey. thats just a few of the good modern games i've played this last year. Ganker is filled with contrarian brains fried by memes and buzzwords.
All crap
All shit
>tlou2
trash
>divinity original sin 2
good but it was released in 2017, might as well just say dark souls 3 is still relevant.
>path of exile
anything f2p is automatically suspect, people say warframe is a good game too. I know from experience that it's just a (pretty boring) timesink. I doubt this game is any different, but look I'm open to being wrong.
>prey
I don't know about this one, it's a remake though and remakes are always suspect as well. again, another game that was released in 2017. yeah, five years is what he asked for but you're really straddling that line, ain't you
>elden ring
it's just dark souls 4 open world. is it good? yeah, if you like dark souls. is it perfect? people are too enamored by its sheen at this point to really think about its flaws but once "the dust as settled" we'll really see what people think
>mario odyssey
they've been building upon mario 64 for the past 15 or so years, because it's just mario 64 with some new features then yeah I'd assume it's good, but I stopped playing nintendo games some time ago, not really interested in anything else they have to offer because they just produce 80 quadrillion iterations of the every aspect of previous products (music, characters, gameplay loop, etc).
>trash
TLOU2 gameplay shits all over everything youve ever loved.
Prey isn't a remake. There are two games with that name and they're unrelated.
>Arkane's Prey is largely unrelated to the 2006 game Prey developed by Human Head Studios, and is considered a reimagining of the intellectual property set in a new narrative.
>largely unrelated
>reimagining of the intellectual property
ok so not a direct remake of any previous game, still seems like it's somehow related to the ip as a while
>[Prey (2017)] does not use any of the planned sequel's assets, and only incorporates the previous game's name and the broad theme of the protagonist being hunted by aliens
wow
literal pixel to pixel remake
ok homosexuals, how about you tell me why you think it's worth playing? maybe if you produce a half intelligible explanation I'll acknowledge the sentiment that gaming isn't 100% totally shit these days.
Modern gaming should be just anything within the last decade. I think 5 years is simply too short of a cutoff date. It should be in the last decade or at least at the start of the current console gen
Because modern multiplayer games are all unanimously bad
Old good, new bad. They like the games that came out when they were a kid.
The casualization of games with the higher budgets that modern graphics require is an objective fact.
>modern gams r4 casuls
The games that came out when I was a kid were bad too. All video games are bad.
This board is full of burned out depressed people who sit on the internet and get performatively outraged at non issues
I went to 3 years of Psychologist and Psychiatrist and it didnt help whatsoever. It only made me feel worse.
Try stretching and going for a jog, then drink a nice cool glass of ice tea
idk. I just played the demo for metal:hellsinger and this is probably the first time i've been hyped for a game since mortal kombat 9. it's not even a particularly great game, i just loved the frick out of it for whatever reason.
i think people are just jaded with the amount of trash that gets released every week so it's really hard to find something that clicks again.
Too dumbed down where moves track for miles, are made on into one size fits all attacks, and/or are simplified into too little options. I don't like games that play themselves, it isn't fun. I also enjoy high risk games, shit like MvC.
NEW BAD
OLD GOOD
old is conservative
new is librul
nuff said
Because morons here think AAA games represent the whole medium and wonder why they're soulless corporate garbage when they only exist to pump money out of stupid normals
Meanwhile indiechads know gaming has never been better
indie games are mass appeal schlock but with bad graphics
ITT: Generalizing Black folk Who've probably played less than 0.1% of what's out there
Yeah