more like who designed THIS FRICKING THING
this has to legitimately be the most unfun fight ever, not only is it boring as hell but the stupid frick never stops moving and only does attacks directly in front of the singular spot you can attack without bouncing off like a moron
Kirin is ok, at least it has a learnable moveset, it just catches you in a corner sometimes.
Things like Lunastra and Ruiner Nergi can be the real rng cancer.
How do they even exist? >thunder mantle >meal for ele res L >use nullberries
And that's literally all you need, it's not remotely hard. World is super casualised and the playerbase is STILL to stupid to be spoonfed hunts.
These are the people telling the fans since MH1 that they were "filtered" by World. Literally the easiest elder dragon in the entire series in every game he is in.
Kirin feels perfect with Lance, given the low committal Lance attacks have you're perfectly capable of keeping up with it and dance around everything Kirin does.
Only annoying thing about kirin is how visually unimpressive he is to fight coupled with how you can start a roll, a lightning spot pops up where your roll will end AFTER you hit the button, and it hits you before you're able to move off of it
Man, I miss when Elder Dragons used to be two parter quests where you first repelled them and then finally slayed them. Made the relationship with them feel that more personal, like taking down a worthy foe.
yeah frick that butthole, all his hitzones are shitty except his tiny little head which is near impossible to hit with certain weapons, and it doesn't help that he has less openings than tempered furious rajang
btw if you don't want to bounce off get mind's eye or purple sharpness weapon
>i hate khezu hes so annoying to fight >yeah hes a real c**t, you just gotta be patient with the aoes
>i hate khezu hes so annoying to fight >AHHHHHHHH FILTERED FILTERED FILTERED FILTERED FILTERED DID YOU HEAR ABOUT [eceleb youve never heard of] HE GOT FILTERED FILTERED FILTERED!!!1!11!!
I really do hope they'll eventually try and make another horse monster that doesn't suck ass to fight. Something much larger that does more kicks and charges and so forth. And less elemental AOEs.
I "liked" this motherfricker because I played FFXIV and this monster is just a fricking FFXIV fight (dodge the aoes bro).
That said, still nervous when fighting him because his Tempered versions oneshotted you
more like who designed THIS FRICKING THING
this has to legitimately be the most unfun fight ever, not only is it boring as hell but the stupid frick never stops moving and only does attacks directly in front of the singular spot you can attack without bouncing off like a moron
>fight HR Kirin >oh shit, dodge those lines bro >MR Kirin >YOU EVER PLAYED CHECKERS, BOI?!
Love this guy's gear, his fight is mediocre. The bounce/thunder armor mechanic is just ass that makes tons of weapons unusable against him, and the horn being his only real weak point is lame as frick, especially how destroying it doesn't at all make him weaker.
You could >shell it with gun lance >use hammer >use spirit combos >use charge blade >use ranged
But you're probably a moron who refuses to use anything but great sword and then cries.
there is like 70k players right now and 120k peak in the past 24h
i have no idea why but it's like it was released last week
maybe people are that hyped for wilds but the numbers are insane
any recommended gameplay mods?
I tried ICE back then which buffs/changes gunlance mechanic. It was great.
there is like 70k players right now and 120k peak in the past 24h
i have no idea why but it's like it was released last week
maybe people are that hyped for wilds but the numbers are insane
>before Wilds announcement >MHW threads are just constant console war and Steam player count homosexualry with the occasional complaints about the clutch claw, tenderizing, and mantles >after people start actually playing World again >MHW threads are complaining about the frick-awful story, Kushala Daora, Kirin, the fart-and-fall-down punching bad, Barioth being spastic, Nargacuga being narcoleptic, the washed-out color palette, the BONE'd weapons, how boring tempered monsters are, and the travesty that is World SnS
MonHun is healing. It's nice to see discussions by people who are actually playing the game.
>Wilds announcement trailer at TGA >on sale >social media campaign >game is 6 years old and is still very fun
MHW is a fantastic game. There are plenty of people who are either happy to give it another go or who missed out on it originally because it's 6 fricking years old.
monhun threads were never this bad before world, but that's how it goes with things that become popular
you even have sites that offer to carry you through hunts for IRL cash
video games are too powerful to be released to the majority of the human population
vidya should've stayed a nerd hobby and people who play vidya should be bullied
i miss being able to talk about vidya only on forums and hiding my powerlevel IRL
World had plenty of great threads. Some of my all time favourite experiences on Ganker have been in MHW threads. Alatreon and Fatalis releases especially were peak MH discussion.
Some friends of mine restarted and I've been joining them, albeit downgearing because I can't be bothered with that. There's a comfortable joy in just beating shit up in the guiding lands that I haven't had in a while.
>albeit downgearing
I can accept armor because after a while it doesn’t matter anyway but if you aren’t taking a weaker weapon you’re just stopping your friends from learning
Well yes, that's what downgearing is. I have a variety of sets saved for all manner of sections. When IB released and I was helping LR/HR babs out and saw homies using G gear I was frequently annoyed by that shit myself. But these friends in particular are people who have two/three different chars at 999, they're not learning much new there.
I'm kind of conflicted with this series. I like a lot of the new stuff world did but I really dislike how the series keeps doubling down on all the mounting and acrobatics shit. For me part of the appeal of the old games was having to overcome these crazy powerful monsters with our limited moveset and prevailing no matter how agile the monster was. Now I feel like we have so much shit at our disposal and it kind of takes away from that feeling.
imo the games couldn't have done it forever. I don't even mind mounting as a concept, since it makes logical sense to try and jump a monster to make it fall over. I just wish it was more in-depth, mounting has always been mashing, sometimes with an input to avoid getting knocked off. It might just need a fresh take on how its handled in future games because I like it conceptually.
I don't like the cutscene where he magically sucks the life out of small monsters that live in that shit, but somehow the hunter can withstand that mist.
The new MH hunt game retcons the "hunters" as special chosen people. They have a kind of energy they harness, similar to the Jedi.
To be fair hunters not being just your average Joe is not a new thing. Hunters being a genetically engineered supersoldier race has been part of the lore for a while
The people in monster hunter aren't humans and never have been. They got dragon blood. Why do you think they can survive getting hit by massive creatures and frick around in volcanos? Also staying underwater for a long time in some games. Hell they swing around weapons larger than themselves.
The civ that left all the ruins, probably.
There is some lore about the dragon war and the equal dragon weapon or some shit.
Also probably who invented all the switch weapons and guns
hunters are just built different, i dont remember where but im sure in some game its explained through random npc dialogue that some people can't take on monsters but I understood that as those people being genetic freaks as opposed to being the majority
The new MH hunt game retcons the "hunters" as special chosen people. They have a kind of energy they harness, similar to the Jedi.
I don't remember the cutscene but isn't he sucking the life of those afflicted only? You can get afflicted and get your health sucked in the proper fight you know.
No they don't? That attack drains your health and kills you if you have Effluvium status. I just found out on my most recent playthrough. Hunters are nothing special.
This boss sucks dick until you have max resist effluvia. Then it’s a complete joke. Same thing with Velkhana. Honestly these types of monsters are bad game design. Resist should be there to help people that struggle to avoid certain moves. These AoE monsters you can barely get near them without max resist of effects and elements. They suck
I'd rather know who butchered the switch axe in world, shit is just straight up the worst weapon
in older games i barely used it except for p3rd where it was my main and in rise it's fricking insane, but now i wanted to main it in world for my new character and holy shit it feels like absolute garbage and like i am glued to the fricking ground with no rotation or movement options whatsoever
I'll stick with it and wait for EE and quick sheath, but holy shit not even the iceborne moves can save this
like, when do you really need the wild swings flinch shot or the clutch claw discharge grab attack?
also WHY THE FRICK does my ZSD explode immedietly when i latch onto a monster despite having gauge and not pressing anything except the attack button?
sometimes it does multiple attacks but more often than not it just goes boom as soon as i grab the homosexual
>butchered the switch axe in world, shit is just straight up the worst weapon
what the actual frick are you on about, going from old SA to being able to actually morph when you want to was the best change they ever made. But I agree that Rise made it even better >no rotation
Slinger Bursts let you rotate 360 degrees, pick up some stones and learn to use them >movement options
you have several advance/fade attacks >wild swings flinch shot
it's mostly there for evasion and/or to get out of wild swings quicker >clutch claw discharge grab attack
it deals good damage and helps you charge the amped state so you can go Elemental Discharge > ZSD
>Slinger Bursts let you rotate 360 degrees
we are talking about the wild swings shot, right?
how the frick does it allow you to rotate?
at best you can turn like 20 degrees, what 360 rotation are you on about?
>we are talking about the wild swings shot, right?
No, you get a Burst Shot after some other Axe Attacks as well. Those Busrt Shots can be aimed in any direction and followed up with an attack
Fair enough, I also got too used to being able to Morph Attack from just moving while unsheathed. Hopefully Wilds SA will be just as good if not better
holy fricking shit thank god for that webm
now to get EE and forget that morph slash isn't an attack anymore unless it's unsheath or from an axe attack
There are a few of those Slinger interactions, they're pretty neat but you have to know about them. I'd wager that most people who play LS or CB have no clue that they can use the Burst as well
This and Luna are hands down the worst monsters to fight in MHW. Even with space Teo is just cancer unless you have fire resist out the ass. And ofc Luna is even worse but holy frick I hate when Teo turns up as well
Nah, Teo’s Aoe isnt really bad, unlike lunastra which triple down on the Dot and Aoe cancer. What made Teo difficult in the past was his incessant aggression paired with the hunters being slower back then. World pretty much nerfed him on that regard, he is barely a threat.
It’s not about him being a serious threat, it’s that he’s cancer to fight without fire resist. There’s barely any openings. Fights like that are just shit. Blackveil is the same shit, pure unfun shit to fight unless you take max resist and ofc without their gimmick they just suck
Bad fights. Jho is a masterclass in difficulty, being a nimble large monster who can catch you out often and also with limited openings but doesn’t feel like a slog to fight.
On Blackveil I agree, but Teo was never that bad for me. If you get in that space between his head and shoulder blade you never need to wait for openings and can just wail on him because all of his attacks miss. He's only really annoying once he rages and zips around everywhere faster than you can catch up.
Teo in Rise however, sucks. I don't know why he feels so bad compared to World. In Rise it feels like his aggression got tuned up like 1000% and he never stops jumping across the map. It's probably to adjust for added maneuverability with wire bugs, but I started avoiding his fight like the plague, I hated it so much.
For me, it was Alatreon that was the most unfun monster in World. I understand it was functioning as a shiter-gate so only people who bested it could go on to fight Fatalis, but god damn it was so unfun. Alatreon in Tri and other titles, THOSE were fun.
For me, it was the elemental force shit, you can't expect me to build a entire new set only for a shitter monster that is not even fun to fight, thanks God they solved that issue with Fatalis
This is also why I hate Sunbreak, element is 3x stronger than raw so every weapon other than GS needs to grind for 5 different sets
Normally in good MH games you just make the best raw weapon and then you're done
4 months ago
Anonymous
I soloed every monster in the game using raw+poison and it wasn't even hard.
4 months ago
Anonymous
MonHun loregays a fricking disgrace.
You're supposed to say 'woah, cool dragon' and then turn him into a pair of pants.
moron take. You could literally google 'meta SB GS' and prove yourself wrong.
Weapon variety is good anyways.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>90% of the available weapons being worthless because raw is always best is ...le good
4 months ago
Anonymous
I just craft whatever I get a rare drop for.
OR I WOULD IF THE FRICKING GAMES DIDN'T STOP ALLOWING THAT
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'll take that over Sunbreak where every weapon is full of high element multiplier multi hit attacks designed to promote elemental playstyles which don't come online until MR100+
Progression in that game is so fricking miserable if you don't play one of the few weapons not reliant on element for all of their damage output
4 months ago
Anonymous
You are moronic and deserve to get dog-piled.
Where did you even get these takes from? Do you really think GS is gimped because you didn't craft a suite of elemental weapons?
4 months ago
Anonymous
GS is one of the few weapons I enjoy playing in Sunbreak precisely because it's not reliant on element
4 months ago
Anonymous
And what weapons are you so afraid to play because you won't use the monster parts you have sitting around?
4 months ago
Anonymous
DB, LS, Hammer, HH, CB, every gunner weapon, they all rely on endgame elemental setups to do good damage
GS, SnS, Lance, GL and SA make element optional as it should be
4 months ago
Anonymous
>weapon balance that encourages you to make and optimize different sets in a game about making and optimizing different sets is... bad
yeah nah c**t
Dude, Ancient Leshen was fun! Difficult, sure, but still fun. Behemoth was okay I'll admit, could have been a bit more fun. But still, not a *bad* monster, especially for a collab
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah Ancient Leshen was kino, hard but kino, Behemoth extreme with the timing jump was stupid but hell it required hands
4 months ago
Anonymous
You don't need to time your jumps at all, just manage your meteors
4 months ago
Anonymous
Meanwhile, meteors are getting wrecked by his huge as frick hitboxes...
Lunastra is the worst monster in MHW, period. You can go back to it with master rank gear and the damage is still absolutely insane with the multiple DOTs, the one shot nova, and the general spastic movement.
Coincidentally I just beat this guy in Rise just now for the first time. Should I keep grinding it out in base game or move onto Sunbreak and come back later? I already did the first couple of MR quests just to see the new biome
Stay in HR until you beat Allmother Narwa. Some of the emergency apex quests can be legitimately terrifying in HR gear, but I forget how much grind you need to unlock them.
How the frick do I get good with bow
I just SOS flare and spam the charged attack at weak spots and dodge when the monster decides it's my turn to dodge
How do i play insect glaive?
There is literally no guide in the game and i really like the weapon. I have no idea what bettles even do and the 1/2/3 metter below my gauges. Please help me.
You shoot your insect at different parts for the buffs. Red is the one you want, your bug hits the head then you call back your bug and you get the buff. Without the red buff don't even bother with insect glaive.
Problem with it is that in MR many monster spend all their time sperging out all over the place and hitting the head is easier said than done. So you are forced into fast insects.
If you see an inscet glaive user doing nothing biut flipping and spinning around in the air like an epileptic moth they are doing shit damage.
THANK YOU!
I take it the buff lasts for 10 or so seconds so i have to reapply it during the fight?
Also what's the deal with the entire insect raising part? My current one does yellow gas attacks and i assume can stun monsters.
It's just to level them up. In Rise you just buy them.
The are two main types, sever or blunt. But really if in your hunt you need to break a head you are far better off taking hammer/HH than trying to get your blunt insect to do it.
Fart clouds like para can build up, the problem is while the monster is all over the place some clouds will be in useless places. It's best used while the monster is down, not moving or exhausted, shoot your insect before going to town on the monster.
get in the habit of not attacking the monster until you have all 3 buffs. rule of thumb for most monsters is to aim at head to get red, wings for white, feet/tail for orange.
focus on raising bugs that have high speed
slinger ammo is something you should look out for as it can enhance your bug so you can get 2 buffs from the monster at once while also increasing the bug's damage if the slinger ammo is the type that dropped from the monster
Aerial should mainly be used for movement/dodging but it has three attacks: the helicopter spin, the downward slashes, and the dive. Only use the downward slashes when you want to mount the monster. the helicopter spins are poo. their only use is that they keep you in the air if you hit the monster, so they can help set up the dive or allow you to keep moving. the dive is the big shit. it's meaty, does good damage, and should be what you're doing in the air if you're not trying to dodge or rush down the monster
>Legiana armor
Good taste. I want Legiana in more games just for its sets. I know the MR set is just reskinned Dreadking Rathalos but blue gradient + white is god tier.
long gunlance in IB makes you feel like a walking cannon >place the mine on the monster's feet >spam your charged shell >enjoy seeing them tripping all over the place
It offsets its tanky nature by having flat damage to all monster parts. You wont be able to head snipe all the time since you are so reliant on your blocks and advancing thrust attack to stay safe but as a trade off you have lots of tools to damage monsters regardless of how shit the hitzones are. Gunlance really needs massive openings to get its combo off since the slam and swipe take so long, both being crucial to the full burst combo so most of the time you will just be trying to shortcut to the slam attack if you have a good hitzone and exploding if not. Gunlance has a lot of short commitment attacks like poke and shell to help balance offence and blocking. you dont have the lance counters and you dont benefit from blocking like charge blade so the shield is just there to keep you safe, its not a tool.
>Bought World on release day >Played for few days but got sidetracked by other games >Bought Iceborne on sale a year ago >Finally got craving to play it again >Playing 4U instead
I should probably pause 4U to try multiplayer in World with so many people playing it.
That's what I'm doing. My weird shy ass didn't try multiplayer once in like 1500 hours of MHW. Even managed to solo Behemoth back then with HBG cluster cheese.
Eh, why don't you play the game you want to play? I finished Rise more than a year ago, finishing almost all normal quests and all event quests solo. Now that Wilds is getting closer, I wanted to finish Sunbreak but I ended up only playing 1 or 2 quest per day. It feels like I'm doing tasks instead of actually playing it.
I certainly don't hate SB or anything, hell people are even saying that it's a definite upgrade to the apparent shitty Rise, but it's hard to have fun playing when I'm forced to play because of some external reason that requires me to play the game.
You'll never learn that way chum.
I can assure you, I brought plenty of dust, my Friendship V Charm on, A Challenger Mantle + with Provoker and I brought a Health Booster + in the event things get dicey. I also have a variety of Low Rank horns for whatever occasion pops up. You're safe with me.
Playing world for the first time, just defeated the pink rathian
There are so many different weapons and armor sets available it's overwhelming and I don't even know how to get decorations besides the first freebie
So far the zorah magdaros CB is carrying me well but the rathian one is tempting me with its blue sharpness, is poison any good?
While I absolutely love FU I can't shake off the feeling that it feels really lonely. It's a pretty particular sort of atmosphere, you walk the maps and it's as if the game takes place after a societal collapse in a world where nature has forgotten humanity.
>you walk the maps and it's as if the game takes place after a societal collapse in a world where nature has forgotten humanity.
congrats you finally figured out that monhun is post apocalyptic
>What do you mean I have to grind a full set of gear in a game about grinding sets of gear?
Alatreon is my favorite hunt in world by far even more than Fatalis
yeah mhfu is just like my favorite anime card captor sakura
>It doesn't look like this anime therefore it's not anime
The most iconic weapons are GS and LS, if you can't see how the game is anime you should have a nice day
I'm sick of hunting anomalies. I want to do a fresh save of Rise but the fact that two thirds of the movesets are locked behind M-rank and crafting 8 fricking weapons is bullshit.
There appears to be a second wave of people giving World a whirl. I don't see why exactly, I mean it hasn't exactly gotten better with age so if you skipped it before, why play it now?
>captured so many penguins
Psst, brother. >Take the "collect 10 Icebloom" quest >Northeast camp >wear gear with Botanist or whatever it is that gives 1 extra gather from plants >exit camp, slap on ghillie mantle (or don't even bother with this bit, I do it for convenience) >run south and gather from the 3 nodes immediately outside the camp
Thank me later.
>people having fun >playing monhun >decent criticism and lamenting changes interspersed with talking about good hunts >one homosexual arrives to console war >suddenly thread is full of LE REDDIT, troony, RISE > WORLD, WORLD > RISE, and other garbage
Can you people frick back off thanks?
In cases like this it's usually one person samegayging arguing both sides anon. Just ignore it, the worst thing you can do in these cases is jump in on it and contribute to the shitflinging since that's what they want.
You know what the problem with a 2025 release is? That's just the BASE game. Without G-rank we won't get a proper fight untinl 2026 at best. That's THREE YEARS FROM NOW!
i dont mind a longer devlopment time if it means they can prevent the BONE'd from happening because the dev time was taken up by something they think is worth a lot of dev time
but on the same hand that turned out to be magderos so lets see
>Friend tells me he wants to buy World >Tell him if he buys it to let me know so we play together >Is playing it without telling me. >Disconnects as soon as I log in Steam
I wish I had friends.
To be fair, you can go back and do this later.
Clobber Behemoth and craft his gear, then just hold onto it for when you feel like doing ATs. Nothing in IB will make you stronger.
It's not a rush, so I'd say just proceed to Iceborne.
If you care about the story then HR 100, deviljho, and kulve, you can skip leshen and behemoth since they dont have an impact on the story or lore at all. If you don't care about extra story at all then you can just jump into it at the end of the HR story since early MR gear is easy to get and already better than HR stuff, only thing to be concerned about is if you have decos for MR but you can always get them in MR with your gear and it'd end up being faster anyway
I'm getting filtered hard by Tigrex. Not sure why, never had this much difficulty with him before. Knowing when to go into him with a hammer is kinda tricky, always used CB and just switched when getting to IB content.
While I personally think you should never think of MonHun having lore beyond monster ecology, I do like that Stories makes the distinction that Riders are vastly less competent than Hunters in combat, hence why you don't see them everywhere. But, no, the Stories games are just spinoffs. I'd still totally fight picrel in a real MonHun game though.
>Over 200 Fatalis hunted >i decided to craf new high rank and low rank armors and weapons to nerf myself a little (i cant nerf experience and skills, thats why i say a little) >Help new people, respond sos calls >Having a lot of fun
I can fricking wait for Wild, over a year of wait, damn.
>Join hard low rank quest using fatalis armor and weapons >you basically act like a superhero to these new hunters
The online was great I used it to roleplay
>Party meets lone experienced hunter that saves their ass and then they never see it again
That's always kino, it would be a problem if you were carrying all their hunts, is like when you were a low level in wow and say a level 60 with epics and fast mount saving your ass from some mobs
Okay, so can someone tell me if Sunbreak is worth playing? I bought it a while ago but never got around to it. Base Rise was honestly so fricking boring to me that I'm not sure if I even care to play it unless it's really good. The new announcement plus all the World activity makes me want to go back to that game again.
It's much better than base Rise. There are no rampages of any kind, the mode doesn't exist in MR. The final boss is better, but still not great. Malzeno is infinitely better than gas cat. There's a wide variety of endgame fights. Many weapons got bumped MVs to their base movesets and don't need to rely on wirebugs as much, but some are still fricked unfortunately. I really enjoyed Sunbreak, but that's in no small part due to the fact that Lance got treated really well. While I will undoubtedly enjoy going back to the slower player speed of Wilds, I will fricking miss insta-block.
Yeah forgot to mention I can crawl during it. Forgot I can shoot slinger ammo from it though, thanks.
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The Lance changes in Sunbreak almost feel like an apology due to how rough it was in base Rise. I really hope some of the stuff from there will carry over to Wilds.
What happened to Lance in Rise? I'd imagine Lance would benefit a lot from how parry heavy Rise seems to be
The simple answer was nothing: it's damage was ass, just like it was ass in IB (and it was). So everyone defaulted to the one move in Rise that did damage, which was unfortunately a silkbind.
In Sunbreak, it got massive MV buffs across the board. So the whole moveset became much more usable. I think they didn't even nerf the silkbind in question, they just lifted everything to its level. Hammer got similar treatment.
Yeah spiral thrust is still good and really versatile, now it's just not the only thing you ever strive to do
You can play lance in so many different ways in SB it's insane how right they got it
The simple answer was nothing: it's damage was ass, just like it was ass in IB (and it was). So everyone defaulted to the one move in Rise that did damage, which was unfortunately a silkbind.
In Sunbreak, it got massive MV buffs across the board. So the whole moveset became much more usable. I think they didn't even nerf the silkbind in question, they just lifted everything to its level. Hammer got similar treatment.
said, it basically got nothing in comparison to the other weapons.
Also in base Rise the silkbind you had to rely on had a penalty the higher your Guard level was.
Also Longsword was the counter king and did everything Lance did but better.
>Lance gets nothing but raw numbers buffs and even a slight buff to its adept parry window >LS gets it's ezmode parries knee-capped with a 50% damage penalty
Itchynose-sama, I prostrate.
I never played Lance in base Rise cause the playstyle that was optimal just wasn't fun. I hated all of Lance's silkbinds that weren't anchor rage. just want to sit in front of a monster's face and poke it to death.
I'm still fricking mad meat dog didn't make it into Rise but we got Toby, Pukei AND Anjanath.
Not to mention the better variants like Fulgur, Coral and Frostfang.
I'm replaying World and I'm getting hit by certain attacks that knock me on my back and I can't do jack shit for a couple of seconds. That's not Tremor right? Just some kind of fall state that I can't do anything about except don't get hit?
Tobi and Pukei got some moves from Viper and Coral iirc. But Fulgar was a much more exciting fight for sure.
Oh, the pins? Yeah, don't get hit by those. If you have slinger ammo loaded you can smack the monster in the face and get up faster.
Yeah forgot to mention I can crawl during it. Forgot I can shoot slinger ammo from it though, thanks.
It's much better than base Rise. There are no rampages of any kind, the mode doesn't exist in MR. The final boss is better, but still not great. Malzeno is infinitely better than gas cat. There's a wide variety of endgame fights. Many weapons got bumped MVs to their base movesets and don't need to rely on wirebugs as much, but some are still fricked unfortunately. I really enjoyed Sunbreak, but that's in no small part due to the fact that Lance got treated really well. While I will undoubtedly enjoy going back to the slower player speed of Wilds, I will fricking miss insta-block.
The Lance changes in Sunbreak almost feel like an apology due to how rough it was in base Rise. I really hope some of the stuff from there will carry over to Wilds.
Rise/Sunbreak not getting Fulgur Anjanath is criminal. You guys should have gotten the super saiyan t-rex.
Can't find a good, short video of him doing his flying rush bullshit.
I wish the game had an actual halberd as a weapon type. >SA is its own thing which sometimes barely even resembles an axe >Lance is a massive lance with a massive shield and all about massive weight >Gunlance is a gun first and bayonet second as a design >GS has halberds in its design pool but it is a Great Sword >IG is a weird ballerina twirly shit with a colorful toy bug on your arm >LS has halberds in the design pool but it is a weeb YOOOOOOO stick with anime sheaths, counters, spirit gauges and releases
Nah, I understand the closest you can get to a spear/halberd/bladed polearm with an interesting moveset is either LS or IG. But LS is >LS
And IG has its wonky bug mechanics.
I know FU had a GS halberd, but I was unaware LS did too.
I really missed the more creative weapon designs in World >those lances that were an Estoc, a Zulu spear and shield, a mock gunlance, a plunger and toilet seat >the greatest design of all time, the Gunhammer >Basarios Rock
>Lance is a massive lance with a massive shield and all about massive weight
Bruh. No lancer would ever feel this way. Using a lance is about fluidity, continuity, and staying in the monsters face. The lance is a REALLY fricking good tool once you learn how to use it!
If it runs from you, you chase it down. If it targets you, you counter and attack back. If it tries to evade you, you counter and attack. Lance is fricking strong in the right hands.
>you counter and attack
Yup, Tribab confirmed. >Lance is fricking strong in the right hands.
Lance has been "fricking strong" exactly 3 times in 20 years and only one of those times did it play the way you described it
I've been playing Monster Hunter Dos (MH2) and having a lot of fun. Holy frick though the amount of small monsters that can be in an area and instantly aggro you when the target is around.
Currently getting filtered by Gypceros of all things. I think I might actually have to build a whole secondary cutting weapon up, I'm currently using hammer and it's really hard to get weakspots on him. Or maybe I should just build a bow, since I'm going to have to fight that homosexual Plesioth very soon.
Iceborne was basically a third party add-on headed by a different director and outsourced to various external devs (including former modders), there's no reason not to assume Wilds (which is headed by Yuya Tokuda and all the original MHW devs) won't be just as good as World
I think the Guiding Lands were a mistake.
It was cool, yeah, but soon you realize how much of your grind is trapped there. All of the other maps, including the absolutely massive Hoarfrost, borderline disappeared aside from a few events.
Shitting on 3U because you played Tri as a baby should be the ultimate litmus test of you quality as a person and your ability to think critically beyond your own biases
I don't even like Tri that much, I just think 3U is a lazy, ugly mashup of Tri and P3rd that adds almost nothing original of actual quality aside from reworking Plesioth into one of the game's best monsters, and only served as an engine test for MT Framework on 3DS for MH4
4 months ago
Anonymous
Don’t care, didn’t ask. And you’re a homosexual! Keep sucking wieners, though.
Because it doesn't exist. Just as most of the World hate was manufactured shitposting that extends to Rise. Rise is just the new thing so it gets shat on the most. It'll be Wilds once it comes out.
It was manufactured tribalism. If you haven't noticed, we've had staggeringly normal threads lately.
Clearly whoever it was hmmm, I wonder has fricked off for a while.
I understand Ganker's hateboner, what I find more baffling is the way basically the entire post-MHW content creation sphere and wider internet have collectively tried to bury the game just for existing and not being World
Nah he's right. You'll see World and Iceborne get shat on unfairly way more than you'll ever see Rise or Sunbreak get shat on. How often do you see people praise Rise for switch skills or the follower system or some other innovation? All the time, practically every MH thread. How often do you see World get credit for the updated Monster models, animations and the ecology shit like the capture net and pet system or the seasonal event changes to the hub that were downright objective improvements over the previous games? Barely ever. It will always stand so long as World is the most popular entry it'll also be the one Ganker most unfairly treats.
Every time Rise is brought up in Ganker threads, it's to shit on it with maybe one or 2 people occasionally going "well, it may have done ONE thing right!"
>You'll see World and Iceborne get shat on unfairly way more than you'll ever see Rise or Sunbreak get shat on
Absolutely not. Rise is the most shat on MH title on Ganker.
Not even my ex would try to gaslight me this hard.
You can't deny reality. People praise Rise all the time but the only time World gets brought up is to shit on it or just when people are playing it like now.
>You'll see World and Iceborne get shat on unfairly way more than you'll ever see Rise or Sunbreak get shat on
Absolutely not. Rise is the most shat on MH title on Ganker.
For good reason. Capcom only made it so that tendies would not swear off their products forever. It's not a legitimate title. Now that it is no longer exclusive we have a pretty fair assessment on how not great it is.
>I refuse to take a look at someone going through design decisions with direct quotes from the developers of games from the very first game to the very last just because its on youtube
I like both. World is ultimately the better game though. But I like some of Rise and Sunbreak's monster selections more. I've also actually played that a lot more than I did World, but only because my friends dropped that sooner. It was easier and more convenient to put more time solo into Sunbreak too since I played on Switch with shows on in the background.
Hammer might be one of the easiest weapons to pick up for a newbie
It has shit range but it swings so wide you will rarely wiff hits if you're in range
I don't have Iceborne, only base World. I'm also playing Rise for the first time so even if you made a room there I'd be the one guy with shitty starter gear soon to be LR Ludroth gear.
>only playing base HR games
Oh shit Black person, what are you doing. Pick one and finish it, that's where the real meat is.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Its not necessarily a conscious choice of my part, fate just had me always stop these games before G or sometimes even HR all the way back from FU to World for one reason or another. I think the furthest I made into G rank was one or two hunts in 3U. From hard drive failures to physically moving to new homes, every time I reach the credits of a MH game something will happen soon after that will force or make me move on to another game.
I hate all of the end games of the MHs I've played (I mean parts where you start grinding repeatable content for randomized gear/charms), but which has the best in your opinion?
Anjanath is the shittiest new monster I've seen in a long time. Amazing they would add such a pathetic creature after they'd just made a different Fire Trex and it was way cooler.
>beat MHW Fatalis >still think World is overall shit
At least the fight was pretty cool, I’ll admit that. Only other fights I really enjoyed was regular Vaal Hazak and Glavenus
My friends think the opposite. I don't play LS in either game, but I'm going to guess that Rise took the counters from IB and turned them up to 11 by making them way faster and more generous.
Helm Breaker is now a Silkbind move and to get most out of counters you need to stand inside the harvest moon circle which can be tedious. Special sheath combo iai slash now increases level if it connects successfully making foresight at least for me more a secondary choice. Sacred Sheath has an auto counter but I can't stand it's playstyle at all. In general Rise LS feels not as broken as World ones but I have around 100 LS hunts in both games only so take it with a grain of salt.
Only a minority of beta sets actually had meaningful visual differences, and they only actually existed because of RNG decos in World, they would have been redundant in Rise
>Only a minority of beta sets actually had meaningful visual differences >decos >they would have been redundant in Rise
Irrelevant, since we're talking about looks.
>Irrelevant, since we're talking about looks.
Yeah and beta sets with different looks were a minority, so there's no reason to bring them back for either looks or mechanics
Oops, part of my previous post got deleted. >Only a minority of beta sets actually had meaningful visual differences
That's simply false though. They're all uniquely different from alpha.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Most of them only slightly adjust the length of some parts or remove some accessories or other minor differences like that, only EDs got more significant differences than that in the base game
Iceborne made it more common among most higher tier monsters admittedly
>Yeah and beta sets with different looks were a minority,
That is a flat out lie. Every single one had difference such that t was a choice for which one you liked more. The differences being minor does nothing to change the fact that they WERE different.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Every single one had difference such that t was a choice for which one you liked more. The differences being minor does nothing to change the fact that they WERE different.
I have been successfully baited. To my parents, I am sorry.
>but armors are ass. Rmoved beta sets too.
Are you genuinely upset about the removal of beta sets? Most of the changes design wise were incredibly minor.
I'm still more pissed that World culled gunner armor.
I'm still mad Goss got cucked out of having a cool variant or deviant. He needed a higher threat level version and considering he was probably the best new monster in all of Rise him not getting one when shit like Almudron and Rakna got one is a crime.
i just picked up rise+sunbreak after trying the demo
i'm leaning towards bow or a bowgun, playing with mouse and keyboard those felt the most engaging for me. i'm not quite sure which i'll pick for the main game.
normal bow was all around pretty nice and the status arrows were cool, especially since i'll be playing with someone else for at least part of the game.
light bowgun was also fun, though it had a button that fired into the ground and i couldn't quite figure out what that did, the demo didn't go in great depth for each weapon.
heavy bowgun might be what i lean towards, going minigun mode was pure Fun even if putting it away to have a sippy took 10 years.
this'll be my first monster hunter game.
Bow is a glorified melee weapon
LBG and HBG basically play the same, both of them abuse pierce elemental ammo, HBG just moves slower so LBG is almost strictly better
I wouldn't use ranged weapons for your first game, the KBM controls for melee weapons are good, but starting with ranged weapons will create problems for newer players, both because it can be resource intensive over the ammo costs and also it can create bad habits that will carry over if you want to try other weapons
If you want the most basic weapon Sword and Shield and Great sword are good starter picks
Rise's graphics look better to me, I know that technically World is better, but it seems a bit bland compared to Rise, I really like the new engine and the sharp textures, I also like that Rise is 144fps on my 2060 while World hovera around 90fps
I just picked up Rise+Sunbreak during the steam sale, I have friends to play with but they're all high level so I'm trying to play solo to get a hang of it so I'm not throwing. It's my first monster hunter, I'm actually really enjoying the exploration and material gather along with the first few 1-3 star monsters, my only gripe so far is why capcom insists on making such a horrible UI, way too much garbage on each menu and submenu, they could absolutely be cleaned up and optimized. I'm sure it's one of those things veteran players from like Monster Hunter 1 or 2 are comfortable with so they just keep it that way, I've played dragon quest since 1 on the NES so I get it. i'm going hammer and it's been fun so far but I'm wondering when I should start making different elemental hammers for monsters or just wait and save material until I get into higher ranks
You can somewhat adjust the UI, but it mostly comes down to removing fat like the combo tutorial whenever you switch scrolls
If you're using element hammer are you using strength or courage style?
>are you using strength or courage style?
I have no idea what this mean anon, I am literally a moron when it comes to this game, if you're talking about the blue or yellow hammer mode, I guess I normally stay blue. I like the lvl 3 charge better on that one over the spinning one
Basically, one of your switch skills gives you the ability to change the way you can charge your hammer, one is Strength style, and the other is Courage
Strength is better for raw hammers, meaning ones that don't have much elemental damage if any at all
Courage does a lot more elemental damage and is overall faster than strength
Iirc if you don't have it by default you can unlock it either via the quest utushi gives you or by crafting/upgrading hammers a certain amount of times
Strength and courage are two different charge attack styles available through Switch Skills, you unlock courage by upgrading 8 different hammers IIRC
Strength and Courage are named after the Adept ("Bushido" in Japanese) and Valor ("Brave" in Japanese) styles from GU, which the animations are taken from
Strength is based around single stronger hits and focuses on physical damage, while Valor is based on fast charge attack combos and favors elemental damage
I've only made the iron and bone hammer so I guess I should make more to unlock this
Courage hammer mostly shines with late game element-boosting armor skills (and also requires 2 levels in Focus to make its combos work at all), and the new shockwave silkbind unlocked in master rank, so Strength will work much more easily for you while you're progressing, but Courage is still playable even without element if you just happen to prefer its playstyle, it's just not nearly as good.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Focus 2 for Courage
What makes you say that? In SB, uppercut charges very fast, and superpound is literally instant now.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes but we can go faster, we can go even further beyond!
4 months ago
Anonymous
Focus 2 makes the uppercut charge instantly which is extremely important since you need the full charge to get the multi hit, and the multi hits are where your elemental damage comes from.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Strength uses Shockwave, too. Crater is just not good and got left behind.
Silkbind Spinning is great on certain mons, but then you can't really have it on a second scroll if you use MoH. Not a huge deal; just take it on floating homosexuals like Amatsu although every second without Keeping Sway is agony, I will agree.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Strength uses Shockwave, too. Crater is just not good and got left behind.
Can I get an MLG fact check on this? I've been running Crater on my Strength setup
4 months ago
Anonymous
Test it yourself; Two charged bonks is way more damage than Brutal BB which is why that is the meta (charge 3 ofc), and BBB is better than Crater loops now (and easier to land AND you keep your bugs for Shockwave and Sway).
Like Water Strike is better with Courage because of the free charge (and you're not free to WS often as STR during your charge), Keeping Sway is GODLY for STR Hammer and the main reason it feels better to me personally than Courage. Level 3 charge iframing through some shit to eliver the pain train is just amazing
Here's the metagay list explaining why but honestly you can go to the dummy and see it yourself real quick
https://mhsbsets.wordpress.com/hammer/
4 months ago
Anonymous
>we're going to lose keeping sway in Wilds
oh no
4 months ago
Anonymous
Don't worry, GL users will commit suicide en masse once blast dash gets removed
4 months ago
Anonymous
If Wilds feels as slow and clunky as Rise without wirebugs and mobility skills I'll seriously kms
4 months ago
Anonymous
You're going to have a nice day if it feels as smooth as butter?
How does that make sense?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Rise's base movement feels like you've got lead boots on, compare the running speed or the distances of gap closers, hops, slides etc between World and Rise, plus everything has way more recovery before you can move again while World is way more fluid
4 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, the animations in world in general are far more clunky not to mention on some weapons, particularly the switch axe the draw slash and any minor adjustment can send you way off target.
The game in general feels like your playing in molasses even compared to classic style MH games. There are also less opportunities to roll cancel in world compared to Rise and even GU.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Just play any of the other games to fix your muscle memory
I'm back to world and shaking off the urge to wirefall is insanely difficult
4 months ago
Anonymous
This one's gonna hurt.
No one in their right mind enjoys Charged Shelling anyways, so just drop that shit. Anyone who ran pure long shell strats in Iceborne should be institutionalized.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I feel like the slinger returning means all slinger combos will be back to some degree. So slinger burst with charge held will be our consolation.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I imagine they might keep slinger burst as Iceborne's gimmick and use L2 for more weapon specific moves or a new gimmick since they're running out of space on the controller otherwise
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Strength uses Shockwave, too.
I'm aware, Courage just benefits more from it because of its higher hitcounts.
Strength and courage are two different charge attack styles available through Switch Skills, you unlock courage by upgrading 8 different hammers IIRC
Strength and Courage are named after the Adept ("Bushido" in Japanese) and Valor ("Brave" in Japanese) styles from GU, which the animations are taken from
Strength is based around single stronger hits and focuses on physical damage, while Valor is based on fast charge attack combos and favors elemental damage
No point in saving materials, the higher level hammers will use different materials, just craft what you want and upgrade them afterwards with the higher level mats
Np, fair bit of warning the second to last and last monster require a lot more prep work than the others
I would recommend making an ice elemental build as soon as possible
all you need is gems or equipment with resistance to his cloud, then it's not bad at all. i thought that was an awesome monster to fight. one of the only monsters in mhw that i actually had to change my build for
I made all 5 elemental hammers and played courage for a few hunts and went right on back to strength.
I just got a MoH and BoB tali (with no slots lel) so we about to be RAW as frick
The nice thing is that Courage and Strength are pretty equal in terms of damage, so it's really just preference.
It was about the same in XX as well, although more matchup focused.
I play mostly multiplayer with frens. I think courage is a better choice for the solo hunter. Monsters spazz out and spin too much for the 1-2-3 combo vs the rising hard bonk of Strength's running charge 3
Gun Sword ritualposter aside, I would like some kind of speedy midrange gun style weapon, like a bayonet. Maybe instead of actually shooting, the attack animations could use the muzzle flash as a hitbox. Gunlance doesn't really have the right feel because of how hefty it is, even if it's closest visually to what i'm describing.
>tfw played world as my first monhun with 2 other friends who were also new >the game felt hard as a motherfricker, we triplecarted lots of hunts and we'd take forever to finish off some monsters >decide to practice on my own once >game is fricking easy as shit because the monster's hp isn't tuned for 2 extra players who can't press buttons
my GS friend is pretty bad so when I go solo with two hunting horns it's a joke rodeo
feels like I turned the game down from 'balls' to 'games journalist'
>tfw played world as my first monhun with 2 other friends who were also new >the game felt hard as a motherfricker, we triplecarted lots of hunts and we'd take forever to finish off some monsters >decide to practice on my own once >game is fricking easy as shit because the monster's hp isn't tuned for 2 extra players who can't press buttons
Playing with bad players is a totally different experience for sure, and not necessarily a bad one
I got my gf into Rise and every hunt, SB in particular, was a time attack to kill the monster before she triplecarted
I remember my ADHD friend triple carted to HR anjanath instantly, he wouldn't listen to me telling him to get better gear because he wanted his huntress to be skimpy so he was basically wearing paper with the LR bone armor
4 months ago
Anonymous
Can't he at least upgrade his current armor, or install a mod if he's on PC to get unlocked free layered armor?
4 months ago
Anonymous
I told him constantly to either get the HR bone armor or just wait for layered armor, wouldn't listen
That's based as shit. If he keeps it up he'll be an armorless skill god.
I hard carried the elder dragon fights because nerg flicked his wrist and wiped my friend
4 months ago
Anonymous
That's based as shit. If he keeps it up he'll be an armorless skill god.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Not if he keeps triple carting like a b***h.
4 months ago
Anonymous
That's how training arcs work, you donut.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Practice leads to perfection moron. It's only a problem if he goes online.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I told him constantly to either get the HR bone armor or just wait for layered armor, wouldn't listen
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I hard carried the elder dragon fights because nerg flicked his wrist and wiped my friend
>hey bro SAS isn't the only way to play GS, you sure you don't wanna try Rage Slash or Surge Slash out? >"no" >*carts again*
4 months ago
Anonymous
I tried strongarm for one hunt and decided it was way too situational to be good. Rage slash is so much more consistent, safe and will usually do almost as much as a TCS in average.
Also you can redirect Rage. TCS and Strongarm just whiff all the time.
I don't care if it's a non-functioning cosmetic thing I keep in the player house, I want a monstie from the stories games to chill with me in a mainline Monster Hunter.
Frick year bros, I killed Prim Mal on my third try with my terrible clown suit 'build'. I will get a few pieces off of him, then next stop is MR 60 to continue towards the Elders
>Regular blocking also leads into SAED
I thought it was just guard points? What the frick I've been avoiding using the shield altogether to practice guardpoints and eating shit
more like who designed THIS FRICKING THING
this has to legitimately be the most unfun fight ever, not only is it boring as hell but the stupid frick never stops moving and only does attacks directly in front of the singular spot you can attack without bouncing off like a moron
just elder seal bro 🙂
>kirin existed since mh1
>the fights were actually worse
man, kirin is just not fun to fight period
Yeah it blows my mind that somehow Kirin got worse in World.
use horn
Use a hammer. And if that doesn't work, use more hammer.
>they roll apart and reveal it was two players all along
NANI?
Hot damn I hate this fricking c**t, he has NEVER been fun to fight
Kirin is ok, at least it has a learnable moveset, it just catches you in a corner sometimes.
Things like Lunastra and Ruiner Nergi can be the real rng cancer.
Feels good in World to go Spread LBG against Kirin and just dumping entire mags constantly into its horn
I used to enjoy Kirin, but after playing with Alatreon's perfect hitboxes, I can't stand Kirin's bullshit any more.
It will never not amuse me how hard the tempered version filtered shitters left and right.
How do they even exist?
>thunder mantle
>meal for ele res L
>use nullberries
And that's literally all you need, it's not remotely hard. World is super casualised and the playerbase is STILL to stupid to be spoonfed hunts.
These are the people telling the fans since MH1 that they were "filtered" by World. Literally the easiest elder dragon in the entire series in every game he is in.
Stop lying moron. Pointless post
Kirin feels perfect with Lance, given the low committal Lance attacks have you're perfectly capable of keeping up with it and dance around everything Kirin does.
Yeah, as a lance main I didn't even know kirin had a bounce mechanic until I saw people here complaining about it
Bouncing?
Only annoying thing about kirin is how visually unimpressive he is to fight coupled with how you can start a roll, a lightning spot pops up where your roll will end AFTER you hit the button, and it hits you before you're able to move off of it
Was good in World until Iceborne, MR Kirin isn't fun.
HR Kirin was my favourite fight in the game. MR Kirin was giga aids anti-fun bullshit that I never want to fight ever again. They ruined him.
Recently fought this Black person in MHFU I think I'm done with MH for a while
Man, I miss when Elder Dragons used to be two parter quests where you first repelled them and then finally slayed them. Made the relationship with them feel that more personal, like taking down a worthy foe.
I like Kirin.
I know if I was isekaid into the Monster Hunter World it would be my mount within a week or arriving.
>meleegay can't hit a target
Not my problem. Kirin is great.
Draw slash GS or Hammer head sniping.
yeah frick that butthole, all his hitzones are shitty except his tiny little head which is near impossible to hit with certain weapons, and it doesn't help that he has less openings than tempered furious rajang
btw if you don't want to bounce off get mind's eye or purple sharpness weapon
study the blade
>i hate khezu hes so annoying to fight
>yeah hes a real c**t, you just gotta be patient with the aoes
>i hate khezu hes so annoying to fight
>AHHHHHHHH FILTERED FILTERED FILTERED FILTERED FILTERED DID YOU HEAR ABOUT [eceleb youve never heard of] HE GOT FILTERED FILTERED FILTERED!!!1!11!!
>screeches 10 times in a row
fricking annoying ass monster
This is what made me prioritize earplugs over all else.
I really do hope they'll eventually try and make another horse monster that doesn't suck ass to fight. Something much larger that does more kicks and charges and so forth. And less elemental AOEs.
People have problems with these fights?
T.Lance user who never gets hit except by unblockable attacks and then dies instantly
I "liked" this motherfricker because I played FFXIV and this monster is just a fricking FFXIV fight (dodge the aoes bro).
That said, still nervous when fighting him because his Tempered versions oneshotted you
>fight HR Kirin
>oh shit, dodge those lines bro
>MR Kirin
>YOU EVER PLAYED CHECKERS, BOI?!
Love this guy's gear, his fight is mediocre. The bounce/thunder armor mechanic is just ass that makes tons of weapons unusable against him, and the horn being his only real weak point is lame as frick, especially how destroying it doesn't at all make him weaker.
Just use a hammer. Kirin is a joke with a hammer.
>joke
You mean a fun time.
Well, that too. Smashing that horse's face with a big turkey leg is pretty fun.
>laughs in Switch Axe sword mode
You could
>shell it with gun lance
>use hammer
>use spirit combos
>use charge blade
>use ranged
But you're probably a moron who refuses to use anything but great sword and then cries.
I don't hate Kirin, I think his weapons are cool
The shithorse gets the HBG
Is mhw worth to get back in to (pc)?
Haven't played in 2 years
MHW is always worth getting back into
any recommended gameplay mods?
I tried ICE back then which buffs/changes gunlance mechanic. It was great.
there is like 70k players right now and 120k peak in the past 24h
i have no idea why but it's like it was released last week
maybe people are that hyped for wilds but the numbers are insane
Sales possibly? MHW base game was free on PS+ for ages and it definitely kept the numbers high
It's $20 for World + Iceborne
It's cheap as frick for hundreds of hours of gameplay
Sales plus a #back2world promotion. I'm actually holding a small hope for a content patch with AT Shara and hazard elders.
>before Wilds announcement
>MHW threads are just constant console war and Steam player count homosexualry with the occasional complaints about the clutch claw, tenderizing, and mantles
>after people start actually playing World again
>MHW threads are complaining about the frick-awful story, Kushala Daora, Kirin, the fart-and-fall-down punching bad, Barioth being spastic, Nargacuga being narcoleptic, the washed-out color palette, the BONE'd weapons, how boring tempered monsters are, and the travesty that is World SnS
MonHun is healing. It's nice to see discussions by people who are actually playing the game.
>Wilds announcement trailer at TGA
>on sale
>social media campaign
>game is 6 years old and is still very fun
MHW is a fantastic game. There are plenty of people who are either happy to give it another go or who missed out on it originally because it's 6 fricking years old.
2025 is too late. I'll be too old to properly enjoy it. I have to force myself to enjoy World now. It's all I've got left.
mhgu is the last good monhun game
monhun threads were never this bad before world, but that's how it goes with things that become popular
you even have sites that offer to carry you through hunts for IRL cash
video games are too powerful to be released to the majority of the human population
vidya should've stayed a nerd hobby and people who play vidya should be bullied
i miss being able to talk about vidya only on forums and hiding my powerlevel IRL
World had plenty of great threads. Some of my all time favourite experiences on Ganker have been in MHW threads. Alatreon and Fatalis releases especially were peak MH discussion.
Asmongold said he'd play it this weekend or something I think.
That has literally nothing to do with the current player spike.
Every game he says he will play in the immediate future skyrockets.
the #backtoworld happened way before asmon looked at world
Some friends of mine restarted and I've been joining them, albeit downgearing because I can't be bothered with that. There's a comfortable joy in just beating shit up in the guiding lands that I haven't had in a while.
>albeit downgearing
I can accept armor because after a while it doesn’t matter anyway but if you aren’t taking a weaker weapon you’re just stopping your friends from learning
Well yes, that's what downgearing is. I have a variety of sets saved for all manner of sections. When IB released and I was helping LR/HR babs out and saw homies using G gear I was frequently annoyed by that shit myself. But these friends in particular are people who have two/three different chars at 999, they're not learning much new there.
Also wondering this. I played at launch on console but never picked up Iceborne. Is it worth?
how bad does he smell
I'm kind of conflicted with this series. I like a lot of the new stuff world did but I really dislike how the series keeps doubling down on all the mounting and acrobatics shit. For me part of the appeal of the old games was having to overcome these crazy powerful monsters with our limited moveset and prevailing no matter how agile the monster was. Now I feel like we have so much shit at our disposal and it kind of takes away from that feeling.
Old games had OP bombs instead of acrobatics, it's the same shit.
i know those feels too
I just gave up on it
Monster Hunter sucks now and Capcom had no intention on making it good ever again
You're not completely wrong but those games more or less hit a dead end after 10+ years of draw charge to the head as the monster turns
imo the games couldn't have done it forever. I don't even mind mounting as a concept, since it makes logical sense to try and jump a monster to make it fall over. I just wish it was more in-depth, mounting has always been mashing, sometimes with an input to avoid getting knocked off. It might just need a fresh take on how its handled in future games because I like it conceptually.
In early Master rank what should I kill to get decorations? I don't have shit.
I don't like the cutscene where he magically sucks the life out of small monsters that live in that shit, but somehow the hunter can withstand that mist.
The new MH hunt game retcons the "hunters" as special chosen people. They have a kind of energy they harness, similar to the Jedi.
That’s moronic. Japanese games are riddled with this chosen one stuff, it’s a wonder anyone bothers to do anything in that country
>bro I’m not chosen I will simply not work
To be fair hunters not being just your average Joe is not a new thing. Hunters being a genetically engineered supersoldier race has been part of the lore for a while
The people in monster hunter aren't humans and never have been. They got dragon blood. Why do you think they can survive getting hit by massive creatures and frick around in volcanos? Also staying underwater for a long time in some games. Hell they swing around weapons larger than themselves.
>They got dragon blood
Isn't that just the Wyverians?
The humans and wyverians have intermingled for thousands of years.
Why do you think they can survive getting hit by massive creatures and frick around in volcanos?
Video Games.
Wyverians and Hunters are both genetically engineered, with Wyverians being 50% dragon and 50% human and Hunters 90% human.
If they're genetically engineered who did the engineering?
The civ that left all the ruins, probably.
There is some lore about the dragon war and the equal dragon weapon or some shit.
Also probably who invented all the switch weapons and guns
Considering what the hunters hunt it makes sense
hunters are just built different, i dont remember where but im sure in some game its explained through random npc dialogue that some people can't take on monsters but I understood that as those people being genetic freaks as opposed to being the majority
I don't remember the cutscene but isn't he sucking the life of those afflicted only? You can get afflicted and get your health sucked in the proper fight you know.
No they don't? That attack drains your health and kills you if you have Effluvium status. I just found out on my most recent playthrough. Hunters are nothing special.
This boss sucks dick until you have max resist effluvia. Then it’s a complete joke. Same thing with Velkhana. Honestly these types of monsters are bad game design. Resist should be there to help people that struggle to avoid certain moves. These AoE monsters you can barely get near them without max resist of effects and elements. They suck
Looks like someone tried to make the Rat Autorithy from DS2 not be lame as frick
LOOK HOW HARD I CAN FART
I'd rather know who butchered the switch axe in world, shit is just straight up the worst weapon
in older games i barely used it except for p3rd where it was my main and in rise it's fricking insane, but now i wanted to main it in world for my new character and holy shit it feels like absolute garbage and like i am glued to the fricking ground with no rotation or movement options whatsoever
I'll stick with it and wait for EE and quick sheath, but holy shit not even the iceborne moves can save this
like, when do you really need the wild swings flinch shot or the clutch claw discharge grab attack?
also WHY THE FRICK does my ZSD explode immedietly when i latch onto a monster despite having gauge and not pressing anything except the attack button?
sometimes it does multiple attacks but more often than not it just goes boom as soon as i grab the homosexual
>butchered the switch axe in world, shit is just straight up the worst weapon
what the actual frick are you on about, going from old SA to being able to actually morph when you want to was the best change they ever made. But I agree that Rise made it even better
>no rotation
Slinger Bursts let you rotate 360 degrees, pick up some stones and learn to use them
>movement options
you have several advance/fade attacks
>wild swings flinch shot
it's mostly there for evasion and/or to get out of wild swings quicker
>clutch claw discharge grab attack
it deals good damage and helps you charge the amped state so you can go Elemental Discharge > ZSD
>Slinger Bursts let you rotate 360 degrees
we are talking about the wild swings shot, right?
how the frick does it allow you to rotate?
at best you can turn like 20 degrees, what 360 rotation are you on about?
>we are talking about the wild swings shot, right?
No, you get a Burst Shot after some other Axe Attacks as well. Those Busrt Shots can be aimed in any direction and followed up with an attack
huh. Too bad I can't play IB switch axe after falling in love with SB's version.
Fair enough, I also got too used to being able to Morph Attack from just moving while unsheathed. Hopefully Wilds SA will be just as good if not better
holy fricking shit thank god for that webm
now to get EE and forget that morph slash isn't an attack anymore unless it's unsheath or from an axe attack
There are a few of those Slinger interactions, they're pretty neat but you have to know about them. I'd wager that most people who play LS or CB have no clue that they can use the Burst as well
Coming back to World from Rise for a bit, holy frick I KEEP trying to morph from neutral and stand still like a moron
I miss that shit.
I love the slinger burst with greatsword. Just attack, burst, 180 true charge slash instant combo
*farts in your general direction*
This and Luna are hands down the worst monsters to fight in MHW. Even with space Teo is just cancer unless you have fire resist out the ass. And ofc Luna is even worse but holy frick I hate when Teo turns up as well
Nah, Teo’s Aoe isnt really bad, unlike lunastra which triple down on the Dot and Aoe cancer. What made Teo difficult in the past was his incessant aggression paired with the hunters being slower back then. World pretty much nerfed him on that regard, he is barely a threat.
It’s not about him being a serious threat, it’s that he’s cancer to fight without fire resist. There’s barely any openings. Fights like that are just shit. Blackveil is the same shit, pure unfun shit to fight unless you take max resist and ofc without their gimmick they just suck
Bad fights. Jho is a masterclass in difficulty, being a nimble large monster who can catch you out often and also with limited openings but doesn’t feel like a slog to fight.
On Blackveil I agree, but Teo was never that bad for me. If you get in that space between his head and shoulder blade you never need to wait for openings and can just wail on him because all of his attacks miss. He's only really annoying once he rages and zips around everywhere faster than you can catch up.
Teo in Rise however, sucks. I don't know why he feels so bad compared to World. In Rise it feels like his aggression got tuned up like 1000% and he never stops jumping across the map. It's probably to adjust for added maneuverability with wire bugs, but I started avoiding his fight like the plague, I hated it so much.
>This and Luna are hands down the worst monsters to fight in MHW
Teo is by far the best Monster in base MHW.
Nah that's Alatreon
For me, it was Alatreon that was the most unfun monster in World. I understand it was functioning as a shiter-gate so only people who bested it could go on to fight Fatalis, but god damn it was so unfun. Alatreon in Tri and other titles, THOSE were fun.
Alatreon in World was aids.
For me, it was the elemental force shit, you can't expect me to build a entire new set only for a shitter monster that is not even fun to fight, thanks God they solved that issue with Fatalis
This is also why I hate Sunbreak, element is 3x stronger than raw so every weapon other than GS needs to grind for 5 different sets
Normally in good MH games you just make the best raw weapon and then you're done
I soloed every monster in the game using raw+poison and it wasn't even hard.
MonHun loregays a fricking disgrace.
You're supposed to say 'woah, cool dragon' and then turn him into a pair of pants.
moron take. You could literally google 'meta SB GS' and prove yourself wrong.
Weapon variety is good anyways.
>90% of the available weapons being worthless because raw is always best is ...le good
I just craft whatever I get a rare drop for.
OR I WOULD IF THE FRICKING GAMES DIDN'T STOP ALLOWING THAT
I'll take that over Sunbreak where every weapon is full of high element multiplier multi hit attacks designed to promote elemental playstyles which don't come online until MR100+
Progression in that game is so fricking miserable if you don't play one of the few weapons not reliant on element for all of their damage output
You are moronic and deserve to get dog-piled.
Where did you even get these takes from? Do you really think GS is gimped because you didn't craft a suite of elemental weapons?
GS is one of the few weapons I enjoy playing in Sunbreak precisely because it's not reliant on element
And what weapons are you so afraid to play because you won't use the monster parts you have sitting around?
DB, LS, Hammer, HH, CB, every gunner weapon, they all rely on endgame elemental setups to do good damage
GS, SnS, Lance, GL and SA make element optional as it should be
>weapon balance that encourages you to make and optimize different sets in a game about making and optimizing different sets is... bad
yeah nah c**t
I see someone who never hunted Ancient Leshen or Behemoth.
Teostra is boring, Lunastra is cool. I'm so happy they brought her back and reminded everyone that Teostra is the recolor.
Dude, Ancient Leshen was fun! Difficult, sure, but still fun. Behemoth was okay I'll admit, could have been a bit more fun. But still, not a *bad* monster, especially for a collab
Yeah Ancient Leshen was kino, hard but kino, Behemoth extreme with the timing jump was stupid but hell it required hands
You don't need to time your jumps at all, just manage your meteors
Meanwhile, meteors are getting wrecked by his huge as frick hitboxes...
>Alatreon in Tri and other titles, THOSE were fun.
You mean when you couldn't even hit its primary weak point without a status gunner? That Alatreon?
Teostra is fine, Lunastra is a c**t
Lunastra is the worst monster in MHW, period. You can go back to it with master rank gear and the damage is still absolutely insane with the multiple DOTs, the one shot nova, and the general spastic movement.
Ancient Leshen exists
Not even gonna count that one since it's a total gimmick
Coincidentally I just beat this guy in Rise just now for the first time. Should I keep grinding it out in base game or move onto Sunbreak and come back later? I already did the first couple of MR quests just to see the new biome
Stay in HR until you beat Allmother Narwa. Some of the emergency apex quests can be legitimately terrifying in HR gear, but I forget how much grind you need to unlock them.
How the frick do I get good with bow
I just SOS flare and spam the charged attack at weak spots and dodge when the monster decides it's my turn to dodge
How do i play insect glaive?
There is literally no guide in the game and i really like the weapon. I have no idea what bettles even do and the 1/2/3 metter below my gauges. Please help me.
You shoot your insect at different parts for the buffs. Red is the one you want, your bug hits the head then you call back your bug and you get the buff. Without the red buff don't even bother with insect glaive.
Problem with it is that in MR many monster spend all their time sperging out all over the place and hitting the head is easier said than done. So you are forced into fast insects.
If you see an inscet glaive user doing nothing biut flipping and spinning around in the air like an epileptic moth they are doing shit damage.
THANK YOU!
I take it the buff lasts for 10 or so seconds so i have to reapply it during the fight?
Also what's the deal with the entire insect raising part? My current one does yellow gas attacks and i assume can stun monsters.
It's just to level them up. In Rise you just buy them.
The are two main types, sever or blunt. But really if in your hunt you need to break a head you are far better off taking hammer/HH than trying to get your blunt insect to do it.
Fart clouds like para can build up, the problem is while the monster is all over the place some clouds will be in useless places. It's best used while the monster is down, not moving or exhausted, shoot your insect before going to town on the monster.
IG is truly a high IQ weapon.
>Odogaron
>Wings
get in the habit of not attacking the monster until you have all 3 buffs. rule of thumb for most monsters is to aim at head to get red, wings for white, feet/tail for orange.
focus on raising bugs that have high speed
slinger ammo is something you should look out for as it can enhance your bug so you can get 2 buffs from the monster at once while also increasing the bug's damage if the slinger ammo is the type that dropped from the monster
Aerial should mainly be used for movement/dodging but it has three attacks: the helicopter spin, the downward slashes, and the dive. Only use the downward slashes when you want to mount the monster. the helicopter spins are poo. their only use is that they keep you in the air if you hit the monster, so they can help set up the dive or allow you to keep moving. the dive is the big shit. it's meaty, does good damage, and should be what you're doing in the air if you're not trying to dodge or rush down the monster
Is gunlance in W worth getting into?
Keep in mind I don't mean in a meta sense, but in a is it fun sense
Try it out and see how you like it.
It's called Funlance for a reason
Fricking try it out & see if you like it you moronic c**t. Not like its locked behind a paywall or someshit...
Of course
Omg? If i destroy monster wings they actually wont fly around?
Not quite, but it trips them up when they try to fly. For Barioth, breaking his wings makes him slip and tumble after lunges, giving you an opening
>Legiana armor
Good taste. I want Legiana in more games just for its sets. I know the MR set is just reskinned Dreadking Rathalos but blue gradient + white is god tier.
I like Legia's weapons as well, it's a shame the Gunlance was IRON'd
https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/5091
This mod replaces a lot of BONE'd weapons, but not all of them are high quality.
Luckily the Velkhana and Tobi gunlances kind of match the Legiana set.
Isn't that the one that disables weapons sounds if used during progression?
Sickeningly unusable.
Looks like it is. I never used the mod because I wasn't a fan of the new models either.
Looks like reskinned Khezu GLs.
A couple of those are nice, but what the frick are those Bazel GLs?
I use https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/492
Looks pretty nice I think
I'm just annoyed that they couldn't put these designs in the game. At least Sunbreak gave me back my Zinogre GS.
Sorry, I love visible drums in GLs and must have monkey pawed it.
long gunlance in IB makes you feel like a walking cannon
>place the mine on the monster's feet
>spam your charged shell
>enjoy seeing them tripping all over the place
It offsets its tanky nature by having flat damage to all monster parts. You wont be able to head snipe all the time since you are so reliant on your blocks and advancing thrust attack to stay safe but as a trade off you have lots of tools to damage monsters regardless of how shit the hitzones are. Gunlance really needs massive openings to get its combo off since the slam and swipe take so long, both being crucial to the full burst combo so most of the time you will just be trying to shortcut to the slam attack if you have a good hitzone and exploding if not. Gunlance has a lot of short commitment attacks like poke and shell to help balance offence and blocking. you dont have the lance counters and you dont benefit from blocking like charge blade so the shield is just there to keep you safe, its not a tool.
>Bought World on release day
>Played for few days but got sidetracked by other games
>Bought Iceborne on sale a year ago
>Finally got craving to play it again
>Playing 4U instead
I should probably pause 4U to try multiplayer in World with so many people playing it.
That's what I'm doing. My weird shy ass didn't try multiplayer once in like 1500 hours of MHW. Even managed to solo Behemoth back then with HBG cluster cheese.
Eh, why don't you play the game you want to play? I finished Rise more than a year ago, finishing almost all normal quests and all event quests solo. Now that Wilds is getting closer, I wanted to finish Sunbreak but I ended up only playing 1 or 2 quest per day. It feels like I'm doing tasks instead of actually playing it.
I certainly don't hate SB or anything, hell people are even saying that it's a definite upgrade to the apparent shitty Rise, but it's hard to have fun playing when I'm forced to play because of some external reason that requires me to play the game.
>All these new players
>120k peak recently
>So many SOS flares
>Downgrade my gear to LR and join in on the hunts
I'm here for you scrubs. Let's hunt.
Thank you. If you respond to an SOS on a elder dragon c**t, please just use your best gear.
You'll never learn that way chum.
I can assure you, I brought plenty of dust, my Friendship V Charm on, A Challenger Mantle + with Provoker and I brought a Health Booster + in the event things get dicey. I also have a variety of Low Rank horns for whatever occasion pops up. You're safe with me.
>Friendship V Charm
damn I should make that, thanks for the reminder
It always helps to lend a hand to your fellow hunters.
Even if you never see them again.
I don't really do SOS, just playing with the lads. I tend to use Dust of Life very proactively, and the 6 uses even with crafting is just not enough
>monster hunter with magic
>pvp
>Invading other hunter hunt
for being MH clone this game actually better than MH and have everything i want
buy an ad, chink
Got my raging brachy axe today
>buy MHW so i can play it with my friend
>solo it until the end
Playing world for the first time, just defeated the pink rathian
There are so many different weapons and armor sets available it's overwhelming and I don't even know how to get decorations besides the first freebie
So far the zorah magdaros CB is carrying me well but the rathian one is tempting me with its blue sharpness, is poison any good?
No, but Rathian weapons can carry you until the postgame.
Good decorations are basically gacha
Have fun, especially when you get to 4-slotters! 🙂
Just edit in all the decorations, the drop rates for some of the important ones are like less than half a percent
>hundreds hours without a Load Up or Prot Polish deco in my original run
>hack decos on a replay and just casually find them anyways
Epic.
Decorations will come purely by accident. Once you're into Iceborne, you're gonna get drowned in them.
Rathian will last you until you get the good shit that is the Odo CB
While I absolutely love FU I can't shake off the feeling that it feels really lonely. It's a pretty particular sort of atmosphere, you walk the maps and it's as if the game takes place after a societal collapse in a world where nature has forgotten humanity.
It's a perfect game for when you just want to stay in bed and be cozy for a week.
Did Nekoht show up again? Maybe in Generations?
4U has a series of quests that culminate in hiring her younger sister as a companion. I don't like it very much.
GU is utterly soulless and not canon
in MonHun
Funny.
>you walk the maps and it's as if the game takes place after a societal collapse in a world where nature has forgotten humanity.
congrats you finally figured out that monhun is post apocalyptic
>Switch to light bowgun with flameshot and 3 recoil dapeners
>Wear Girros set
>Absolutely shit all over him for 15 minutes straight
Acquire skill.
glad I'm not the only moron that got filtered by this shitmon
Man, I haven't hunted one of these in years. time to hunt royalty until I get a full set and relive my 3U years.
>What do you mean I have to grind a full set of gear in a game about grinding sets of gear?
Alatreon is my favorite hunt in world by far even more than Fatalis
>anime poster has shit taste
the sky is blue
Monhun is an anime game, you're a secondary worldbab and it shows
You tell him, this is just like Naruto
Wh-what's that hunter doing between Teo's legs?
sucking his fat wiener
>It doesn't look like this anime therefore it's not anime
The most iconic weapons are GS and LS, if you can't see how the game is anime you should have a nice day
you can keep crying about it but it doesn't make it so you little b***h
You can ignore the facts all you want but you'll never be a woman
>troony troony troony
you are so predictable get some new material already
>Not a single argument in 3 posts
Keep giving me (you)'s loser
why do you keep tally marks like your reddit gold?
Yeah yeah keep em coming
The most iconic weapon is this, and this weapon is basically caveman unga unga not Kyaaaa oni san ochimpo nesune!
You have a very limited understanding of anime
See this
and show me were the characters start to say "Kya hunter san! your ochimpo nesune!"
See
I guess onisan lost again
>moving concept art of proto hunters fighting a deviljho
Is... is that.. a BONED weapon?!
AIIIIEEEE I'M GOING INSAAAAANE.
>hack artist
I know, but damn if his work doesn't get my dick hard.
WRONG
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SnS will never be iconic
>weapon only exist to be sold at the start of the game
>not hunting every monster in the game naked with bone kris
That's not a bone kris, that's a hunter's knife.
>sold
People sell their starter weapons?
The frick?
In the older games money was hard to come by
>what are power seeds
fricking sucks that i have to do arena quests to unlock it as a layered weapon in Iceborne
yeah mhfu is just like my favorite anime card captor sakura
>Monhun is an anime game
Monhun was closer to conan than anime before the jump to tendie consoles
don't bother that homosexual doesn't even play the games
Hell the opening of monster hunter was basically a scene of Jurassic Park
Goku was introduced in MH2 anon
Yes giant ape that fight against other monsters and dinosarus compare Rajang with anime shit like Valtrax or Brachidyos
I'm sick of hunting anomalies. I want to do a fresh save of Rise but the fact that two thirds of the movesets are locked behind M-rank and crafting 8 fricking weapons is bullshit.
There appears to be a second wave of people giving World a whirl. I don't see why exactly, I mean it hasn't exactly gotten better with age so if you skipped it before, why play it now?
Marketing. Capcom is pushing their 'influencers' to tout #Return to World right now. Expect #Rise Up (Gamers) summer 2024 next.
It's not like everyone who played World played it all the way through. A lot of casualcattle bought the game.
Because it is currently $10 on steam, and they just revealed a new game.
>Man I wish I had waited literally half a fricking decade to play Monster Hunter so I could save 15$.
Well it's $20, and the game was $60 when it came out. More people are willing to try new thing at lower prices, more at 11.
Man, farming those VIP tickets is a pain. I've captured so many penguins I may as well have a monopoly on the entire species.
>captured so many penguins
Psst, brother.
>Take the "collect 10 Icebloom" quest
>Northeast camp
>wear gear with Botanist or whatever it is that gives 1 extra gather from plants
>exit camp, slap on ghillie mantle (or don't even bother with this bit, I do it for convenience)
>run south and gather from the 3 nodes immediately outside the camp
Thank me later.
Edit them in, why are you letting Capcom wageslave you into farming cosmetics?
Ever wonder what they do with em?
I did NOT ask for Twitter's opinion.
>people having fun
>playing monhun
>decent criticism and lamenting changes interspersed with talking about good hunts
>one homosexual arrives to console war
>suddenly thread is full of LE REDDIT, troony, RISE > WORLD, WORLD > RISE, and other garbage
Can you people frick back off thanks?
How about you come up with a topic gay
There's multiple, moron, get to engaging with em.
But if you need a new one, how about how Lavasioth is fricking garbage.
4th gen Lavasioth is literally fine, they chose to make him moronic ClackClack in World.
HACK artist, by the way.
In cases like this it's usually one person samegayging arguing both sides anon. Just ignore it, the worst thing you can do in these cases is jump in on it and contribute to the shitflinging since that's what they want.
>game i played as a child
Soulful, immersive sim, real MH
>game you played as a kid
DPS bossfight rush
POST ROOMS
EQUAL
DRAGON
WEAPON
WHEN
You sure that's not a Digimon?
This is SCRAPPED lore you fricking morons. Throw in the bin. Gone. Kaput. Discarded. Destroyed. It's not canon and it never was, nor will it ever be.
>that filename
kek I thought the same when I saw it
and thats a good thing because its fricking stupid
Did a wyvernian tell you this?
No, the actual fricking art book did. It was a concept for Monster Hunter 1 that never made it past the concept stage.
You know what the problem with a 2025 release is? That's just the BASE game. Without G-rank we won't get a proper fight untinl 2026 at best. That's THREE YEARS FROM NOW!
Eh, we had the same issue with World and Rise. We simply HOONT til then.
i dont mind a longer devlopment time if it means they can prevent the BONE'd from happening because the dev time was taken up by something they think is worth a lot of dev time
but on the same hand that turned out to be magderos so lets see
>Friend tells me he wants to buy World
>Tell him if he buys it to let me know so we play together
>Is playing it without telling me.
>Disconnects as soon as I log in Steam
I wish I had friends.
I'll play with ya, anon
It's probably your fault
Post steam profile.
Also, POST ROOMS.
World is the only good monster hunter (until wilds)
Is there a list of all the base world content I should do before moving on to Iceborne? Don't really want to overgear it later on
AT elder dragons with hr gear
Id honestly suggest just hopping into Iceborne. No reason not to, really.
To be fair, you can go back and do this later.
Clobber Behemoth and craft his gear, then just hold onto it for when you feel like doing ATs. Nothing in IB will make you stronger.
It's not a rush, so I'd say just proceed to Iceborne.
You can grind decos like a gentile since it seems like you're that type. HR is all baby mode and there is MR equivalent for basically every hunt
Iceborne is infinitely better than base game, just go back and beat AT Nerg with high rank gear
Not really but here's a list with all the event shit you can get
I'm a CB user, and I'm still mad that Black Eagle won the weapon contest, and not pic related.
that just makes me want fist weapons in general I really want to punch a rathalos in the face
I never managed to do that Xeno'jiva quest. I always time out
haha
If you care about the story then HR 100, deviljho, and kulve, you can skip leshen and behemoth since they dont have an impact on the story or lore at all. If you don't care about extra story at all then you can just jump into it at the end of the HR story since early MR gear is easy to get and already better than HR stuff, only thing to be concerned about is if you have decos for MR but you can always get them in MR with your gear and it'd end up being faster anyway
Effluvia is cool. The constant nigh unavoidable cyanide clouds everywhere isn't.
Bro, your torch pods?
I'm getting filtered hard by Tigrex. Not sure why, never had this much difficulty with him before. Knowing when to go into him with a hammer is kinda tricky, always used CB and just switched when getting to IB content.
Anyone else like how the Defender weapons look?
I hate kushala daora
That is all
Understandable, have a nice day.
It's better in world than rice
are riders actually a thing in lore or is it just spin off stuff?
There is no lore, they're just making shit up as they go
Yes
While I personally think you should never think of MonHun having lore beyond monster ecology, I do like that Stories makes the distinction that Riders are vastly less competent than Hunters in combat, hence why you don't see them everywhere. But, no, the Stories games are just spinoffs. I'd still totally fight picrel in a real MonHun game though.
I'M FREE
ALL 115 QUESTS DONE
FRICK THIS HELLHOLE, I'M NEVER COMING BACK
gg
>Over 200 Fatalis hunted
>i decided to craf new high rank and low rank armors and weapons to nerf myself a little (i cant nerf experience and skills, thats why i say a little)
>Help new people, respond sos calls
>Having a lot of fun
I can fricking wait for Wild, over a year of wait, damn.
>Join hard low rank quest using fatalis armor and weapons
>you basically act like a superhero to these new hunters
The online was great I used it to roleplay
>not using Black Belt armor and larping as their instructor
For shame
I will never understand this. They're not even playing the game at this point.
>Party meets lone experienced hunter that saves their ass and then they never see it again
That's always kino, it would be a problem if you were carrying all their hunts, is like when you were a low level in wow and say a level 60 with epics and fast mount saving your ass from some mobs
Wish we could use regular armors as layered
Or we could craft a layered version of every armor
I feel good when people thank me for helping them in an SOS 🙂
Are arena monsters any harder than the ones from regular quests?
Nah
The sets are worse, and I'm pretty sure that if you looked up the numbers they'd be stronger, yeah.
Special arena are the exact same, though.
Okay, so can someone tell me if Sunbreak is worth playing? I bought it a while ago but never got around to it. Base Rise was honestly so fricking boring to me that I'm not sure if I even care to play it unless it's really good. The new announcement plus all the World activity makes me want to go back to that game again.
World is the only monster hunter worth playing
It's just more Rise
It's much better than base Rise. There are no rampages of any kind, the mode doesn't exist in MR. The final boss is better, but still not great. Malzeno is infinitely better than gas cat. There's a wide variety of endgame fights. Many weapons got bumped MVs to their base movesets and don't need to rely on wirebugs as much, but some are still fricked unfortunately. I really enjoyed Sunbreak, but that's in no small part due to the fact that Lance got treated really well. While I will undoubtedly enjoy going back to the slower player speed of Wilds, I will fricking miss insta-block.
What happened to Lance in Rise? I'd imagine Lance would benefit a lot from how parry heavy Rise seems to be
The simple answer was nothing: it's damage was ass, just like it was ass in IB (and it was). So everyone defaulted to the one move in Rise that did damage, which was unfortunately a silkbind.
In Sunbreak, it got massive MV buffs across the board. So the whole moveset became much more usable. I think they didn't even nerf the silkbind in question, they just lifted everything to its level. Hammer got similar treatment.
Yeah spiral thrust is still good and really versatile, now it's just not the only thing you ever strive to do
You can play lance in so many different ways in SB it's insane how right they got it
Like
said, it basically got nothing in comparison to the other weapons.
Also in base Rise the silkbind you had to rely on had a penalty the higher your Guard level was.
Also Longsword was the counter king and did everything Lance did but better.
Wait my bad, Spiral Thrust was the one you used but Anchor Rage was the one that had a weird penalty with more Guard levels.
>Lance gets nothing but raw numbers buffs and even a slight buff to its adept parry window
>LS gets it's ezmode parries knee-capped with a 50% damage penalty
Itchynose-sama, I prostrate.
I never played Lance in base Rise cause the playstyle that was optimal just wasn't fun. I hated all of Lance's silkbinds that weren't anchor rage. just want to sit in front of a monster's face and poke it to death.
>be bloodborne streamer
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
how anyone gets filtered by low rank village khezu in fricking rise is beyond me especially a "souls veteran" guess he didn't roll so good
I'm still fricking mad meat dog didn't make it into Rise but we got Toby, Pukei AND Anjanath.
Not to mention the better variants like Fulgur, Coral and Frostfang.
I'm replaying World and I'm getting hit by certain attacks that knock me on my back and I can't do jack shit for a couple of seconds. That's not Tremor right? Just some kind of fall state that I can't do anything about except don't get hit?
Tobi and Pukei got some moves from Viper and Coral iirc. But Fulgar was a much more exciting fight for sure.
You mean the one where you can aim your slinger and crawl around? Otherwise I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Yeah forgot to mention I can crawl during it. Forgot I can shoot slinger ammo from it though, thanks.
The Lance changes in Sunbreak almost feel like an apology due to how rough it was in base Rise. I really hope some of the stuff from there will carry over to Wilds.
Oh, the pins? Yeah, don't get hit by those. If you have slinger ammo loaded you can smack the monster in the face and get up faster.
Rise/Sunbreak not getting Fulgur Anjanath is criminal. You guys should have gotten the super saiyan t-rex.
Can't find a good, short video of him doing his flying rush bullshit.
I wish the game had an actual halberd as a weapon type.
>SA is its own thing which sometimes barely even resembles an axe
>Lance is a massive lance with a massive shield and all about massive weight
>Gunlance is a gun first and bayonet second as a design
>GS has halberds in its design pool but it is a Great Sword
>IG is a weird ballerina twirly shit with a colorful toy bug on your arm
>LS has halberds in the design pool but it is a weeb YOOOOOOO stick with anime sheaths, counters, spirit gauges and releases
What exactly do you want the halberd to do? This just feels like the same complaint as Speargays
Nah, I understand the closest you can get to a spear/halberd/bladed polearm with an interesting moveset is either LS or IG. But LS is
>LS
And IG has its wonky bug mechanics.
What if a LS based around mobility with a directional vault
I know FU had a GS halberd, but I was unaware LS did too.
I really missed the more creative weapon designs in World
>those lances that were an Estoc, a Zulu spear and shield, a mock gunlance, a plunger and toilet seat
>the greatest design of all time, the Gunhammer
>Basarios Rock
World has Garuga Daito and Rajang Halberd.
Which are from Gen 1-2.
And a pickaxe.
Because reasons.
>Lance is a massive lance with a massive shield and all about massive weight
Bruh. No lancer would ever feel this way. Using a lance is about fluidity, continuity, and staying in the monsters face. The lance is a REALLY fricking good tool once you learn how to use it!
>Using a lance is about fluidity, continuity, and staying in the monsters face.
Tribab detected
Its the core nature of the lance.
If it runs from you, you chase it down. If it targets you, you counter and attack back. If it tries to evade you, you counter and attack. Lance is fricking strong in the right hands.
>you counter and attack
Yup, Tribab confirmed.
>Lance is fricking strong in the right hands.
Lance has been "fricking strong" exactly 3 times in 20 years and only one of those times did it play the way you described it
>he wants swimming back
Opinion discarded
>Lance is fricking strong in the right hands.
The word you are searching for is >easy<
You play bowguns
>Break both of diablo's horns
>No twisted horn drop
??
>Majestic horn*
65%
fricking shit what
which monster is the best face sitter
I've been playing Monster Hunter Dos (MH2) and having a lot of fun. Holy frick though the amount of small monsters that can be in an area and instantly aggro you when the target is around.
Currently getting filtered by Gypceros of all things. I think I might actually have to build a whole secondary cutting weapon up, I'm currently using hammer and it's really hard to get weakspots on him. Or maybe I should just build a bow, since I'm going to have to fight that homosexual Plesioth very soon.
Is there such a thing as a tasteful lewd mod?
no, people who make those mods have 0 sense of taste
When is the Gun Sword from Lost Planet 2 going to be implemented as a new weapon class?
World is just perfection. It cannot be surpassed.
Wilds will be just as good because it's being built for playstation first
World was an accident and Iceborne proved that, Wilds will be worse than World 100%
Iceborne was basically a third party add-on headed by a different director and outsourced to various external devs (including former modders), there's no reason not to assume Wilds (which is headed by Yuya Tokuda and all the original MHW devs) won't be just as good as World
>please in-fight more, good threads make me anxious...
Go for a walk, stinky.
For a game called ICEborne the ice setting only played a small part.
I think the Guiding Lands were a mistake.
It was cool, yeah, but soon you realize how much of your grind is trapped there. All of the other maps, including the absolutely massive Hoarfrost, borderline disappeared aside from a few events.
whats the g in grank stand for anyways
『声に出してみたときに語感がドンとくる言葉』、 『「GREAT」とか「GUTS」とか、元気が出る語句の頭によく付く文字』
Always thought it was GIGA from all the giant robo shit. But I'm not really sure it means any one, specific thing. It's just cool for them.
gravios
FRICK WORLD, FRICK RISE
#ReturnToGen1
#ReturnToGen2
#ReturnToGen3
#ReturnToGen4
thats a cool gradient
Sorry I like to have fun
You're just upset that nu-MH will never reach this level of soul again...
3U is the most soulless game in all of 3rd gen
Tri had soul, P3rd still had some amount of soul, 3U has negative soul
>watches a 3U BAD video essay once
Shitting on 3U because you played Tri as a baby should be the ultimate litmus test of you quality as a person and your ability to think critically beyond your own biases
I don't even like Tri that much, I just think 3U is a lazy, ugly mashup of Tri and P3rd that adds almost nothing original of actual quality aside from reworking Plesioth into one of the game's best monsters, and only served as an engine test for MT Framework on 3DS for MH4
Don’t care, didn’t ask. And you’re a homosexual! Keep sucking wieners, though.
Nah
You're just upset you can't go back to those times
that LS is so cool shame it's a LS
>riding around in my palamute doing village requests while listening to D4C
I never got, don't get, and will never get Ganker's extreme hateboner for Rise and Sunbreak.
t. MH fan for 15 years
Because it doesn't exist. Just as most of the World hate was manufactured shitposting that extends to Rise. Rise is just the new thing so it gets shat on the most. It'll be Wilds once it comes out.
It was manufactured tribalism. If you haven't noticed, we've had staggeringly normal threads lately.
Clearly whoever it was hmmm, I wonder has fricked off for a while.
Autists, mainly.
I understand Ganker's hateboner, what I find more baffling is the way basically the entire post-MHW content creation sphere and wider internet have collectively tried to bury the game just for existing and not being World
Didn't they do that for previous games as well?
If you were actually mh fan for 15 years you would know
Fricking poser
Are you baiting? Ganker loves Risebreak. Ganker hates Worldborne.
Literally the opposite of reality
Nah he's right. You'll see World and Iceborne get shat on unfairly way more than you'll ever see Rise or Sunbreak get shat on. How often do you see people praise Rise for switch skills or the follower system or some other innovation? All the time, practically every MH thread. How often do you see World get credit for the updated Monster models, animations and the ecology shit like the capture net and pet system or the seasonal event changes to the hub that were downright objective improvements over the previous games? Barely ever. It will always stand so long as World is the most popular entry it'll also be the one Ganker most unfairly treats.
Every time Rise is brought up in Ganker threads, it's to shit on it with maybe one or 2 people occasionally going "well, it may have done ONE thing right!"
You can't deny reality. People praise Rise all the time but the only time World gets brought up is to shit on it or just when people are playing it like now.
>You'll see World and Iceborne get shat on unfairly way more than you'll ever see Rise or Sunbreak get shat on
Absolutely not. Rise is the most shat on MH title on Ganker.
For good reason. Capcom only made it so that tendies would not swear off their products forever. It's not a legitimate title. Now that it is no longer exclusive we have a pretty fair assessment on how not great it is.
Not even my ex would try to gaslight me this hard.
'/v/' when it comes to MonHun is a small cabal of vocal shitposters who hate video games.
I hate those names tbh, feels like they were made by the people that coined Soulsborne
I just hate what they did to the hunting horn
This is all you need to know.
I give absolutely 0 fricks about some youtube frickwad's opinion.
>I refuse to take a look at someone going through design decisions with direct quotes from the developers of games from the very first game to the very last just because its on youtube
Yes
>makes the claim that portable games have no care for how the monsters fit into the existing ecosystem
This video is extremely disingenuous
I found a more accurate video
I like both. World is ultimately the better game though. But I like some of Rise and Sunbreak's monster selections more. I've also actually played that a lot more than I did World, but only because my friends dropped that sooner. It was easier and more convenient to put more time solo into Sunbreak too since I played on Switch with shows on in the background.
MHGU was a ton of fun. Still gotta go back to finish that game proper.
Hammer might be one of the easiest weapons to pick up for a newbie
It has shit range but it swings so wide you will rarely wiff hits if you're in range
The voice was rises biggest sin
It also feels smaller cause it's supposed to be a switch game
>Grind out a new armor set
>Realize it sucks ass
Name a worse feeling
Depends on the monster
Love the new moves, hate the switch game graphics and japwank
>362 posts
>64 images
>116 ips
>0 rooms
Be the change you want to see. God I hope Wilds has crossplay to mitigate this.
Join my gang or else...
@e8m7Zt+mNez
MHWI PC room
1/16
It's awfully quiet here. I thought you guys said you love MH.
I'm not even playing World. I'm playing Rise on my PS5
I don't have Iceborne, only base World. I'm also playing Rise for the first time so even if you made a room there I'd be the one guy with shitty starter gear soon to be LR Ludroth gear.
>only playing base HR games
Oh shit Black person, what are you doing. Pick one and finish it, that's where the real meat is.
Its not necessarily a conscious choice of my part, fate just had me always stop these games before G or sometimes even HR all the way back from FU to World for one reason or another. I think the furthest I made into G rank was one or two hunts in 3U. From hard drive failures to physically moving to new homes, every time I reach the credits of a MH game something will happen soon after that will force or make me move on to another game.
Pretty sure the base games are compatible with expansion rooms now, since they are not re-releases anymore.
ICE mod?
Nobody cares about your speedtroony mod
No, vanilla.
I don't want to go back to vanilla horn damage and worthless earplugs S
your motion values and skill bonuses are likely client side
true but ice doesn't let you matchmake with vanilla players
>"big" mod is distributed as a monolithic package instead of easily edited loose files
many such cases
I'll keep this open for another 15 minutes in case anybody decides to join. And if not then I'll have to go play mahjong.
>crossplay
ew no thanks I don't want to play with console shitters
Be the change you want to see
Be the sea you want to change
Frontiers is canon
If Wilds includes
>Hunter Arts
>Styles
>Dogs
>Buff birds
>Counters on every weapon
>Dango in any shape or form
I will not buy it. Firm.
I will buy Wilds regardless
Arts
GIVE
ME
OILS
Stand strong, brother. I'll have fun playing the game in your stead. I won't forget you.
Eat you dango, boy
swimming IS coming back in the Wilds™
I hate all of the end games of the MHs I've played (I mean parts where you start grinding repeatable content for randomized gear/charms), but which has the best in your opinion?
>we never got arch tempered safii jiva/arch tempered shara ishvalda
frick this shit
Goss Harig and Tetrandon were pretty cool though. Bishaten's silly too.
Anjanath is the shittiest new monster I've seen in a long time. Amazing they would add such a pathetic creature after they'd just made a different Fire Trex and it was way cooler.
Lavasioth
lavasioth was frontier dogshit so it comes with the territory
Cool armor though
>PC player
>MR 500
>full fatalis beta armor and fatalis weapon
>perfect decos
name
hmmm
Purple looks better than piss yellow.
I haven't done the final braggay quest because I don't want a piss name.
>beat MHW Fatalis
>still think World is overall shit
At least the fight was pretty cool, I’ll admit that. Only other fights I really enjoyed was regular Vaal Hazak and Glavenus
>Iceborne makes LS incredibly fun
>Rise then makes it unfun trash
My friends think the opposite. I don't play LS in either game, but I'm going to guess that Rise took the counters from IB and turned them up to 11 by making them way faster and more generous.
rise gave it an auto counter that lets you just stand there and wait to get hit. also iai counter doesn't level down your meter if you whiff now
Helm Breaker is now a Silkbind move and to get most out of counters you need to stand inside the harvest moon circle which can be tedious. Special sheath combo iai slash now increases level if it connects successfully making foresight at least for me more a secondary choice. Sacred Sheath has an auto counter but I can't stand it's playstyle at all. In general Rise LS feels not as broken as World ones but I have around 100 LS hunts in both games only so take it with a grain of salt.
I stand by Reckoning Slash
This looks better than every single set in World.
True. Goss was the best Rise addition and it's criminal he didn't get a variant in Sunbreak.
Goss is so fun to fight as rageslash greatsword.
Rise might have improved the weapon models situation, but armors are ass. Rmoved beta sets too.
Only a minority of beta sets actually had meaningful visual differences, and they only actually existed because of RNG decos in World, they would have been redundant in Rise
>Only a minority of beta sets actually had meaningful visual differences
>decos
>they would have been redundant in Rise
Irrelevant, since we're talking about looks.
>Irrelevant, since we're talking about looks.
Yeah and beta sets with different looks were a minority, so there's no reason to bring them back for either looks or mechanics
Oops, part of my previous post got deleted.
>Only a minority of beta sets actually had meaningful visual differences
That's simply false though. They're all uniquely different from alpha.
Most of them only slightly adjust the length of some parts or remove some accessories or other minor differences like that, only EDs got more significant differences than that in the base game
Iceborne made it more common among most higher tier monsters admittedly
>Yeah and beta sets with different looks were a minority,
That is a flat out lie. Every single one had difference such that t was a choice for which one you liked more. The differences being minor does nothing to change the fact that they WERE different.
>Every single one had difference such that t was a choice for which one you liked more. The differences being minor does nothing to change the fact that they WERE different.
I have been successfully baited. To my parents, I am sorry.
Gunner sets dropping is a real complain. Most beta sets were literally a color swap of an inseam.
I miss the gunner sets they always looked so unique, though it was annoying to have to make two sets of armor to play multiple weapons
>but armors are ass. Rmoved beta sets too.
Are you genuinely upset about the removal of beta sets? Most of the changes design wise were incredibly minor.
I'm still more pissed that World culled gunner armor.
I'm still mad Goss got cucked out of having a cool variant or deviant. He needed a higher threat level version and considering he was probably the best new monster in all of Rise him not getting one when shit like Almudron and Rakna got one is a crime.
Wrong.
They better bring him back in future games.
>Goss vs Glavenus sword fight turf war
i just picked up rise+sunbreak after trying the demo
i'm leaning towards bow or a bowgun, playing with mouse and keyboard those felt the most engaging for me. i'm not quite sure which i'll pick for the main game.
normal bow was all around pretty nice and the status arrows were cool, especially since i'll be playing with someone else for at least part of the game.
light bowgun was also fun, though it had a button that fired into the ground and i couldn't quite figure out what that did, the demo didn't go in great depth for each weapon.
heavy bowgun might be what i lean towards, going minigun mode was pure Fun even if putting it away to have a sippy took 10 years.
this'll be my first monster hunter game.
Bow is a glorified melee weapon
LBG and HBG basically play the same, both of them abuse pierce elemental ammo, HBG just moves slower so LBG is almost strictly better
I wouldn't use ranged weapons for your first game, the KBM controls for melee weapons are good, but starting with ranged weapons will create problems for newer players, both because it can be resource intensive over the ammo costs and also it can create bad habits that will carry over if you want to try other weapons
If you want the most basic weapon Sword and Shield and Great sword are good starter picks
Rise's graphics look better to me, I know that technically World is better, but it seems a bit bland compared to Rise, I really like the new engine and the sharp textures, I also like that Rise is 144fps on my 2060 while World hovera around 90fps
Rise is sharper and less blurry for sure.
I just picked up Rise+Sunbreak during the steam sale, I have friends to play with but they're all high level so I'm trying to play solo to get a hang of it so I'm not throwing. It's my first monster hunter, I'm actually really enjoying the exploration and material gather along with the first few 1-3 star monsters, my only gripe so far is why capcom insists on making such a horrible UI, way too much garbage on each menu and submenu, they could absolutely be cleaned up and optimized. I'm sure it's one of those things veteran players from like Monster Hunter 1 or 2 are comfortable with so they just keep it that way, I've played dragon quest since 1 on the NES so I get it. i'm going hammer and it's been fun so far but I'm wondering when I should start making different elemental hammers for monsters or just wait and save material until I get into higher ranks
You can somewhat adjust the UI, but it mostly comes down to removing fat like the combo tutorial whenever you switch scrolls
If you're using element hammer are you using strength or courage style?
>are you using strength or courage style?
I have no idea what this mean anon, I am literally a moron when it comes to this game, if you're talking about the blue or yellow hammer mode, I guess I normally stay blue. I like the lvl 3 charge better on that one over the spinning one
Basically, one of your switch skills gives you the ability to change the way you can charge your hammer, one is Strength style, and the other is Courage
Strength is better for raw hammers, meaning ones that don't have much elemental damage if any at all
Courage does a lot more elemental damage and is overall faster than strength
Iirc if you don't have it by default you can unlock it either via the quest utushi gives you or by crafting/upgrading hammers a certain amount of times
I've only made the iron and bone hammer so I guess I should make more to unlock this
Trust us when we say it is definitely worth it
Courage hammer mostly shines with late game element-boosting armor skills (and also requires 2 levels in Focus to make its combos work at all), and the new shockwave silkbind unlocked in master rank, so Strength will work much more easily for you while you're progressing, but Courage is still playable even without element if you just happen to prefer its playstyle, it's just not nearly as good.
>Focus 2 for Courage
What makes you say that? In SB, uppercut charges very fast, and superpound is literally instant now.
Yes but we can go faster, we can go even further beyond!
Focus 2 makes the uppercut charge instantly which is extremely important since you need the full charge to get the multi hit, and the multi hits are where your elemental damage comes from.
Strength uses Shockwave, too. Crater is just not good and got left behind.
Silkbind Spinning is great on certain mons, but then you can't really have it on a second scroll if you use MoH. Not a huge deal; just take it on floating homosexuals like Amatsu although every second without Keeping Sway is agony, I will agree.
>Strength uses Shockwave, too. Crater is just not good and got left behind.
Can I get an MLG fact check on this? I've been running Crater on my Strength setup
Test it yourself; Two charged bonks is way more damage than Brutal BB which is why that is the meta (charge 3 ofc), and BBB is better than Crater loops now (and easier to land AND you keep your bugs for Shockwave and Sway).
Like Water Strike is better with Courage because of the free charge (and you're not free to WS often as STR during your charge), Keeping Sway is GODLY for STR Hammer and the main reason it feels better to me personally than Courage. Level 3 charge iframing through some shit to eliver the pain train is just amazing
Here's the metagay list explaining why but honestly you can go to the dummy and see it yourself real quick
https://mhsbsets.wordpress.com/hammer/
>we're going to lose keeping sway in Wilds
oh no
Don't worry, GL users will commit suicide en masse once blast dash gets removed
If Wilds feels as slow and clunky as Rise without wirebugs and mobility skills I'll seriously kms
You're going to have a nice day if it feels as smooth as butter?
How does that make sense?
Rise's base movement feels like you've got lead boots on, compare the running speed or the distances of gap closers, hops, slides etc between World and Rise, plus everything has way more recovery before you can move again while World is way more fluid
Anon, the animations in world in general are far more clunky not to mention on some weapons, particularly the switch axe the draw slash and any minor adjustment can send you way off target.
The game in general feels like your playing in molasses even compared to classic style MH games. There are also less opportunities to roll cancel in world compared to Rise and even GU.
Just play any of the other games to fix your muscle memory
I'm back to world and shaking off the urge to wirefall is insanely difficult
This one's gonna hurt.
No one in their right mind enjoys Charged Shelling anyways, so just drop that shit. Anyone who ran pure long shell strats in Iceborne should be institutionalized.
I feel like the slinger returning means all slinger combos will be back to some degree. So slinger burst with charge held will be our consolation.
I imagine they might keep slinger burst as Iceborne's gimmick and use L2 for more weapon specific moves or a new gimmick since they're running out of space on the controller otherwise
>Strength uses Shockwave, too.
I'm aware, Courage just benefits more from it because of its higher hitcounts.
Strength and courage are two different charge attack styles available through Switch Skills, you unlock courage by upgrading 8 different hammers IIRC
Strength and Courage are named after the Adept ("Bushido" in Japanese) and Valor ("Brave" in Japanese) styles from GU, which the animations are taken from
Strength is based around single stronger hits and focuses on physical damage, while Valor is based on fast charge attack combos and favors elemental damage
No point in saving materials, the higher level hammers will use different materials, just craft what you want and upgrade them afterwards with the higher level mats
How long is Iceborne's story compared to World's?
A little bit longer of you're talking about the main game without Title Updates, considerably more of you're included TUs
Yeah meant to reach endgame, thanks anon
Np, fair bit of warning the second to last and last monster require a lot more prep work than the others
I would recommend making an ice elemental build as soon as possible
all you need is gems or equipment with resistance to his cloud, then it's not bad at all. i thought that was an awesome monster to fight. one of the only monsters in mhw that i actually had to change my build for
I made all 5 elemental hammers and played courage for a few hunts and went right on back to strength.
I just got a MoH and BoB tali (with no slots lel) so we about to be RAW as frick
The nice thing is that Courage and Strength are pretty equal in terms of damage, so it's really just preference.
It was about the same in XX as well, although more matchup focused.
I play mostly multiplayer with frens. I think courage is a better choice for the solo hunter. Monsters spazz out and spin too much for the 1-2-3 combo vs the rising hard bonk of Strength's running charge 3
you'd rather want a rathalos variant huh?
Gun Sword ritualposter aside, I would like some kind of speedy midrange gun style weapon, like a bayonet. Maybe instead of actually shooting, the attack animations could use the muzzle flash as a hitbox. Gunlance doesn't really have the right feel because of how hefty it is, even if it's closest visually to what i'm describing.
Get max effluvia resistance and just keep hitting it bro
Can you beat World as a solo player?
I'm assuming you've never played a single MonHun before. If so, yes, and also enjoy.
Yes, but Safi, Alatreon and Fatalis will give you trouble unless you're really good
If you're a new player it's way easier to finish it alone than with other players who are also new
>tfw played world as my first monhun with 2 other friends who were also new
>the game felt hard as a motherfricker, we triplecarted lots of hunts and we'd take forever to finish off some monsters
>decide to practice on my own once
>game is fricking easy as shit because the monster's hp isn't tuned for 2 extra players who can't press buttons
my GS friend is pretty bad so when I go solo with two hunting horns it's a joke rodeo
feels like I turned the game down from 'balls' to 'games journalist'
Playing with bad players is a totally different experience for sure, and not necessarily a bad one
I got my gf into Rise and every hunt, SB in particular, was a time attack to kill the monster before she triplecarted
I remember my ADHD friend triple carted to HR anjanath instantly, he wouldn't listen to me telling him to get better gear because he wanted his huntress to be skimpy so he was basically wearing paper with the LR bone armor
Can't he at least upgrade his current armor, or install a mod if he's on PC to get unlocked free layered armor?
I told him constantly to either get the HR bone armor or just wait for layered armor, wouldn't listen
I hard carried the elder dragon fights because nerg flicked his wrist and wiped my friend
That's based as shit. If he keeps it up he'll be an armorless skill god.
Not if he keeps triple carting like a b***h.
That's how training arcs work, you donut.
Practice leads to perfection moron. It's only a problem if he goes online.
Does he at least try to change up his tactics?
>hey bro SAS isn't the only way to play GS, you sure you don't wanna try Rage Slash or Surge Slash out?
>"no"
>*carts again*
I tried strongarm for one hunt and decided it was way too situational to be good. Rage slash is so much more consistent, safe and will usually do almost as much as a TCS in average.
Also you can redirect Rage. TCS and Strongarm just whiff all the time.
Bro, it's the easiest game in the series to solo especially if you have the dlc.
Wilds' mount could glide, so maybe the maps will be much much more open.
Screencap this, we're gonna get a motorcycle as a paid layered mount.
Rockin'
Gonna miss SnS being able to silkbind directly into a downward dash. Switching back to world just made me sad.
LET ME KEEP A SMALL MONSTER AS A PET.
I don't care if it's a non-functioning cosmetic thing I keep in the player house, I want a monstie from the stories games to chill with me in a mainline Monster Hunter.
Frick year bros, I killed Prim Mal on my third try with my terrible clown suit 'build'. I will get a few pieces off of him, then next stop is MR 60 to continue towards the Elders
I've been farming the phantom fish and grand gajau whiskers for 3 days now but they aren't spawning shit.
>Regular blocking also leads into SAED
I thought it was just guard points? What the frick I've been avoiding using the shield altogether to practice guardpoints and eating shit
It doesn't have the damage boost that guard pointing does
Guard points are frickin impossible in Rise. Makes no sense.
Who needs guardpoints when you can just counter with the bugshit
Acquire skill
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