moonveil is... just decent?

a few days ago i made a thread about being underwhelmed with how the moonveil performed as someone doing a first run with the katana. don't get me wrong it IS a decent weapon with a nice ash BUT i am not feeling the "overpowered" part. i easely out-damage the weapon art just by spamming r1 while building bleed up at the same time. the only pro to the weapon art i see is that itt has nice range however it's slow on recovery and leaves you open to get hit.

did the damage on the weapon art get nerfed or something? or is it my stats?

btw i am talking PvE only.

  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    here my stats

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      and my talismans

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        how'd u get +10 before getting 4 talisman slots? didnt talk to the finger lady in roundtable yet?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          +7 after godskin noble +8 and 9 from dragon barrow and. haven't entered the capital yet

          It got nerfed dumbass

          yeah it's poise but i haven't read anything about the weapon art damage. everything i try to look up regarding moonveil is just redditors crying about how OP it is

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            What part about instantly breaking poise and getting to hit things for free doesn't sound overpowered to you?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              i can do that with other ashes of war aswell, hell my last greatsword lions claw playthrough not only did more damage but slammed them to the groung and unlike moonwil i get a riposte after spamming it 3 times. that shit makes my current moonveil look like a joke

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Because they nerfed it. What isn't making sense to you?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Also most complaints about it are for PvP. PvE, it’s still an above average weapon after the nerf and is great for spell blades. Honestly, a ton of the weapons are just viable overall. Even the fucking club the wretch has is insanely fast and can do good poise damage even after the nerf.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            IMO moon is just ok now, and even at its peak it wasnt even that hard to deal with in PVP, but it was super prevalent so it got the "noob weapon" treatment. As far as current PVE meta goes its a perfectly fine weapon, and vastly underpowered from what it was 8 months ago - essentially just a standard int katana with a flashy WA. personally I like the katana you get from the dragonkin in rot lake more

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              i still like it, i just wish i could ge a riposte at some point. mostly get them on small mobs.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Stinkender

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Moonveil scales with int at B as well. Start investing in int more cause you’re basically wasting that grade by not. Also, most of moonveil’s damage is magic and magic damage scales off of int too.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        i know, i have 60 atm

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Oh that’s the int? Thought it was dex. Then start investing in dex, and also bleed scales with arcane so put some into that.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            isn't bleed only scaling with arcane if the weapon itself has arcane scaling? i am sure i read something about that

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Probably tbh. Just invest in the dex I guess, but also maybe endurance cause uhhh, stamina and the blocking talisman? The latter is pretty good actually but you could definitely replace the stamina one with something more offensive. Especially since you’re running a parry dagger as well. Do Alexander’s quest as he gives you a talisman that makes skills 15% stronger.
              Get that last talisman pouch too. It’s basically unmissable, unless you missed the one Enia gives you somehow.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                yeah i am using the stamina talisman atm because of my low endurance to make blocking more effective. going to up it a bit at some point. currently at the alexander quest, that should make my weapon art outclass the r1 spam

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It got nerfed to shit, the WA used to do huge poise damage and would knock bosses on their ass in 2 shots

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It got nerfed dumbass

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It did in fact get nerfed, it's still good in PVE because of the safety of the weapon art and bleed but it doesn't literally steamroll the game anymore

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The huge stagger damage was the best part

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    pvp fags complain and get everything fun nerfed until they feel the game is balanced
    souls games are best at launch when everything is fucked up

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      i hope the comet azure cheese still works, beat the game a bunch of times but never got to try it myself

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It does, but Comet Azur tends to get caught on whatever bullshit geometry is in the way. Try Crystal Torrent, it does similar damage, can be aimed, doesn't get caught on geometry as much, and is a fucking minigun.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          thanks, i'll make sure to try it

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's literally better than any magic you could be using with it's speed and efficiency outside of meme situations with comet azur. AoWs in general are better than magic.

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