>More characters than L4D2
>More enemy variety than L4D2
>Perk system which allows for a healthy metagame with more complexity than "grab gun and shoot zombie"
Why isn't this more popular than L4D2?
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>more=good
Ngmi
fippy bippy
cause its not as good
You answered the question with your post. Quality over quantity.
>metagame
But why
i don't get it
old good new bad
Thata l4d 1 not 2. 1 looked better than 2 imo. 2 was too bulky, big weapons instead of thay beautiful source feel where you see the whole gun or just adjust for or weapon position
That was intentional, 2 was from the era where Valve were focus testing for console markets.
Now that I finally got to make a bunch of lezdom porn with Karlee and got it all out of my system, I can confidently look back at this game objectively and say that it's trash, just not fun to play, and takes endlessly repayable simplicity of Left 4 Dead and bogs it down with excessive systems that really don't change much.
The card system was unnecessary. It made a strong card selection the most useful thing. When meant dozens to thousands of mediocre runs until you get the cards you're looking for.
Could take hundreds of hours.
Finally get the cards you're looking for. All of a sudden, the game is better.
Zero sense of satisfaction because random drop chance.
Yeah, no thanks.
Is that what happens with the game? That's unfortunate. If they stuck to the original formula they would likely have been fine.
Are there at least people playing multiplayer co-op in Back 4 Blood?
>More characters than L4D2
Irrelevant unless individual characters have unique attributes and/or abilities, then it's shit.
>More enemy variety than L4D2
Adding more specials to a horde shooter distracts from the point of having a horde shooter. The extras added on L4D2 were too much and the original would have been fine with a smaller roster too.
>Perk system which allows for a healthy metagame with more complexity than "grab gun and shoot zombie"
Meta shit is cancer. This just makes the game a frustrating grind in the early game before you get your shit and a boring pointless grind once you have your OP comlketed meta build that everyone uses because it's optimal.
Hore shooters need to be simple, with straightforward objectives, non-complex enemies/encounters, and challenge derived from map design, being overwhelmingly outnumbered and using teamwork to overcome those obstacles.
People wanted "grab gun shoot zombie."
I'm fricking sick of games having time wasting bullshit shoehorned in as a replacement for actual quality content. More characters, cool. More enemy types, awesome. Expecting me to invest time looking at wikis and getting yelled at by shithead teammates online while trying to figure out a meta that isn't even related to my ability to play the game, but rather a series of minute buffs and debuffs that barely affect game play? Eat shit.
Abandoned.
I just wanna grab gun and shoot zombie moron
lol
lmao
this. Probably the best video on the subject of Back 4 Blood sucking ass compared to l4d
I always feel like this is somewhat misleading, yeah they are a low percentage, but that's literally all of turtle rock pictured there. I think people usually think that these 7 guys were some turtle rock employees that worked for l4d.
They really should market themselves as "the idea guys behind l4d" for accuracy.
>le b4b bad video
ohnonono l4d bros in shambles i really got em now
>Russian
lol
>crowbtard
xD
Torvarish comrade! You going to the cum drinking contest tonight?
nice bait, post a real video and not cringe next time
Crowbcat carries again.
Oh yeah, that happened
Because a lot of the shit that was added just doesn't work or is just plain bad.
>More characters
They're all badly written and have no solid characteristics that make me like or want to identify with them. Everyone in the L4D and L4D2 group feel distinctive and they did a good job at not only giving them designs and colors to make them stand out from the more muted colors of the environment and zombies, but they actually wrote them like to act like actual frickin human beings for the most part.
>More enemy variety
Most of the enemies they tried to add onto the formula are also bad. The designs aren't distinctive from one another with shitty names. Like who calls a special infected a tallboy? A name like that doesn't tell me what it does like a charger or a spitter.
>Perk system
Also really badly implemented and if the devs weren't so adamant about nerfing tons of playstyles into being unusable it could've been the one positive thing I had to say about B4B.
Also:
>No versus
>No workshop support
>No custom maps
>Gore and dismemberment looks terrible
i didnt think the game was terrible but then they released a update that changed the special spawn settings or something. on the highest difficulty the special infected would die and instantly spawn again and left zero breathing room to do anything. with hordes and special infected having 100% uptime it became unfun and felt like only speed stats were what mattered if you wanted to progress into the level at all. And by that point you could just run past literally everything in the game without getting hit. Just became so unfun i dropped it completely
The well was poisoned because it wasn't a Valve game.
That said it has legitimate problems that hold it back from being great. In particular it's not really a pick-up-and-play game like L4D2 is because you have to spend time unlocking perks and grinding them out. The average L4Dgay doesn't like this progression based gameplay and tbh it really slows everything down. There's a bunch of other issues to, but those are usually more subjective.
On the other hand I actually loved the classes and perk system. Being able to build each character your own way ie. medic, melee specialist, sniper, etc. was great fun. It's what I wanted the original L4D to be, so I ended up really liking the game and got a good 90 hours out of it.
>that one animation where she's stumbling backward as she tries to overhead you, but falls forward and lands on her hands
I dunno why but I always remember that one particular animation sticking out to me, it looked so cool
>perk system
there that's why it failed
guns feel like shit and thats the core of any shooter
They skunked the launch. Specials were bullet sponges and could spawn right on top of survivors, and the only builds that could reliably clear anything higher than Recruit were speedrun and melee builds - and melee got nerfed shortly afterwards. Plus, the cast didn't have the charisma of the L4D parties.
>get a foggy map
>game immediately spawns 6 specials that incap all players from beyond the vision line
gg
Terrible characters, botched launch with just as terrible balance and a dead on arrival non-campaign compgay versus mode. They could have saved it but their pride didn't allow it and then they released their mandatory dlc and killed the game.
Bravo, turtlegays. At least Holly and karlee are hotties with sexy outfits.
>more enemy variety
lol
it's just the same handful bloated with recolors that are slightly different from one another.
i played the open beta for far longer than i should've for such a shit game and actually went back to l4d2 for a while, so this game wasn't a complete waste at least
>>More enemy variety than L4D2
In what world? All the special zombies jn B4b are dogshit.
You can tell OP is from the Marvel generation of “MORE IS GOOD!!!”
>each special infected model has three variants that are barely distinct from one another visually yet have significantly different abilities
lol
lmao even
World War Z is better than Back 4 Blood
>characters are le quirky walking stereotypes and unbearable to listen to
>zombie ai is moronic and physics are out of the 90s
>shoves an unnecessary skill tree down your throat
>has a lobby hub for some fricking reason
>no modding community
>more content isn't good content
>player count is fricking dead as it should be
The concept of a metagame is the opposite of what l4d is, you won through good shooting, cooperation and learning how the zombies work and how best to outsmart them. What is all this perk bullshit?
Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 have only 8 characters and each one of them is unique, memorable and lovable. The 6 special infected are all you need since they cover every base. Hunter pins on the spot, jockey carries you away, charger pushes, smoker pulls, boomer slows you down, spitter forces you to move. It works perfectly.
I'm not even going to entertain your mention of perk systems as a good thing with a response.
>No custom maps
imagine cucking your game from the get-go just because you want to sell DLC maps
>what if we gave every special 3x the health of the charger including the ones that can instantly incap from range
doesnt run well on my toaster pc
characters dont have the same soul as the l4d cast
>More enemy variety than L4D2
Someone post the enemies.
>(B4B has) more complexity than "grab gun and shoot zombie"
L4D2 is popular BECAUSE its just grab gun and shoot zombie. It doesn't need to be 20GB bigger to fit a bunch of unneeded bullshit that "betters" the game. Get gun, shoot masses of zombies with some specials to spice things up, make way through level, seal self inside safe room, onto the next. Like why the first DOOM is so popular even today; get guns, shoot demons, repeat. You don't need to have two trillion additional features to make a game good.
>15 years later and no dev has been able to top l4d2
is the zombie genre just dead now?
Too many devs aim for "survival crafting" horror games instead of actually fun games
it's completely soulless
everything sounds and looks like crap
physics are basically non-existant
doesn't the gameplay prioritize collecting money for buying crap over you know, teamwork?
I genuinely don't remember anything from this game.
Exceot the time when it first came out and the game just spammed gangs of those coomers at you.