https://www.theguardian.com/games/2023/nov/20/pokemon-chief-interview
How are they gonna be able to do this? Copyright only last 100 years, no matter how mucho they renew it.
More than 100 years
https://www.theguardian.com/games/2023/nov/20/pokemon-chief-interview
How are they gonna be able to do this? Copyright only last 100 years, no matter how mucho they renew it.
Disney does it
They don't. They will lose original Mickey Mouse rights on 2024.
>officially registered the Mickey Mouse character for copyright protection on December 16, 1928. This copyright prevents others from copying and using the likeness of Mickey Mouse without Disney's permission.
Seems like the films from forever ago enter public domain but the character is still property of Disney
>the character
Nope. Character will be public domain.
They just don't use it anymore, so they don't care.
Highly doubt Disney will let their mascot go. They use him for all their merch anon
the only way you're gonna be able to use this incarnation of mickey is if
>it has no mention of mickey's name, as it is a brand.
>features none of the original animation
>must always be wearing the sailor hat, or else it's mickey
>cannot have any of the music played
you're better off just making your own mickey adjacent OC.
Yeah Disney fought every step of the way to basically nullify the law.
Plane Crazy will also be entering public domain.
Trademark and Copyright are different
The actual answer is that Disney has officially declared there are two Mickey Mouse characters: The Steamboat Willy version and Fantasia version.
Meaning that the black and white rubber hose mouse will be public domain soon, but the Mickey most of us think of as another 12 years for legal shenanigans
>he’s this naive
Copyrights allow you to launder money legally. That’s the problem.
They're goyim - what else could they be?
This guy literally looks like an anime villain.
he's not?
Memes & porn is the only reason Pokémon still matters after 13 years of stagnation followed by 13 years of constant downfall thoughever
>Doctor Tomoe if he real
Copyright is not the same as trademarks. Trademarks last indefinitely so long as they're in use.
Steamboat Willie's copyright expiring doesn't mean Mickey Mouse will become a public domain character. It just means Steamboat Willie can be distributed freely.
Ive heard even that's arguable because it still has their trademark in it
Yeah, it's complicated. You technically can't profit off of Steamboat Willie because Mickey is in it.
We might see people upload it to youtube or something, but you can bet Disney will fight that tooth and nail. Copyright expiring could ironically lead to more draconian policies by Disney.
>gen 50
>volt tackle is still exclusive to pikachu
>game freak still haven't bothered buffing meganium
>fossil pokemon are now based on animals that went extinct in the 21st century (thank you corporate lust for short term profits)
>while every game on sale has life-like visuals and runs at a solid 240fps on quantum hardware, the latest pokemon game has PS4 launch title visuals and runs at an unstable 30fps
>nintendo still won't put older pokemon games on the eshop
Pokemon will literally outlast Japan at this point
They’ll pass the torch to India
There will be like 5000 Pokémon when only 145 of them are available to catch
Disney JUST turned 100, these people are pretty brazen
I don’t like the sound of it
Heritage
Pokemon will be irrelevant mobile gacha garbage in 20 years will barely last a generation let alone 100 years.
thats what they said 20 years ago
yeah yeah and pokemon wont outlast pokemania yada yada
nuh uh they’re going to collab with musk so you can just download pokemon straight to your brain with neurolink
This, it's practically almost there anyways
The games still sell
The apps (unite, go, masters) have player bases and make money
The card game still sells and has a player base
The merch obvi still sells
Y’all hate on Pokémon despite it still winning. Stfu please it’s getting so tired how you try and project onto it
The quality of the mainline games might as well be mobile games.
I've playing star rail and it's insane compared to Sw/Sh and SV.
The loading time are instant, animations unique to every character, flashy moves, every menu is fast and responsive, almost everything is voice acted, the graphics are like two console gens above. On my mid tier phone at a stable 30 fps, or 60fps if I don't mind battery usage.
Sure it has issues like gacha but technically it's crazy how much of a different experience it is between a chink mobile phone and a switch game of the biggest grossing media franchise in the world. It's embarassing.
that's a disservice to mobile current mobile games, SV is on the same level as a Launch Nintendo Wii game.
Even THAT'S a disservice considering the Wii launched with Twilight Princess.
SV is a shovelware GameCube game at best.
it sure has the framerate of a shovelware Gamecube game
And if they were aiming for an adult audience, that would be an issue. Sadly, kids are morons and don't care about "muh prefoirmances" like you c**ts. When that day comes, is the day they officially leave Game Freak's target bracket and move on. The issue now becomes why didn't you do similar, when you hit that age? They never, an I do mean never ever in their lifetime gave a frick for teen+ players, except as sales metrics to show they had interaction beyond the playground. And as that article restated, kids are their core market, even if adults have disposable income.
kids and japanese people* the audience they appeal
Anon, pokémania never died in Japan. Over covid, there was queues out the arse for new merch launches, even with the health crisis going on. they are an expected, rather than a bonus sale, because Japan's still fricking obsessed with the pissing thing. You don't need to target those that give you money for your shit willingly - that's why they don't give a frick for western adults that'll "buy it anyway". They need to sell kids on it though to start the whole process.
This is also why Pokemon is hellbent on churning out new monsters constantly that they're slipping them into games every chance they get, with every three years marking a new gen and thus the largest batch of new monsters. Pokemon is devoted to ensuring every single generation of kids in Japan has a chance to become a consumer generation by making sure they all get to have "their era" of Pokemon.
Public domain, but they still own the pokemon.
You will be able to use pikachu in parody films or stuff like that. But you can't release "Pokemon" as your own game. But you could put Pikachu in as a secret character unlock.
I think it's more likely there will be a new entertainment format in 100 years. No idea what it could be. I don't think people who invented video games had any idea it would turn into what it would become. Same way people never expected tv to be color.
I'm surprised there's no gaygar in the background.
Japan isn't America, OP.
They have different Copyright Laws.
What is different about Japanese copyright laws?
There are few risks though
>WW3
>the overdue earthquake in Japan which is expected to the worst, even worse than what happened in 2011
>some sort of technical or economical crash
>the target audience en masse dropping the franchise to hop on the new craze
No one really creates anything new and lasting anymore have you not noticed how most media releases are just rebrands and sequels to what's been done? The chances of something truly suppressing Pokémon are low although I wish it would happen so these frickers actually TRY
They all have been taking shit for granted for decades, who knows maybe in the future someone shows up from frickoff nowhere with a new brand at the right time. It happened before and it can happen again.
my money is on at least one of these:
>WW3 destroying the gaming industry for at least a decade, company veterans die or are forced to take refuge outside of Japan in new professions
>Nintendo being bought out by a bigger fish (China, Microsoft)
>drastic genre shift to try to adapt to new consumer tastes (gachification, ARG ala PoGo, some new paradigm we haven't thought of yet)
either way the existing identity will be destroyed and if it continues to survive as a franchise it'll be completely alien to people who were here for the GB games. the brand might be around 100 years but the classic formula and feel won't be.
>WW3 destroying the gaming industry for at least a decade, company veterans die or are forced to take refuge outside of Japan in new professions
Even if Japan didn’t involve itself into a war and stayed safe, the customers worldwide may stop buying shit because they are scared or literally killing each other.
>Nintendo being bought out by a bigger fish (China, Microsoft)
This is absolutely not a farfetched possibility, since 2019 or so they opened up to collaborating with Chinese companies.
> drastic genre shift to try to adapt to new consumer tastes (gachification, ARG ala PoGo, some new paradigm we haven't thought of yet)
Absolutely. You may notice some kids these days are all over Bluey or Frontshite yet looking down at pokemon as cringe and shit.
I will add one possibility, it’s highly unlikely but it’s there
>a Japanese autistic goes his way to arson thier office or killing somebody
Japanese generally are law abiding citizens, but there’s always that 1 in thousands chance of a lunatic out of his meds or a vindictive individual who can silently pull a crime that will shake the country to its core. I don’t want it to happen but the possibility is real and it happened on different levels before.
different country, different laws. You fricking americuck.
>there's probably a gf employee who's job is to monitor /vp/
That's probably a TPCi employees job
>imagine being a bootlicker retarf who's STILL deep in denial that GF doesn't know just how much Porkyman smut gets made every single day just in Japan
I see no problem with this, I only hope this anon is happy with what he got officially, community ideas are hit or miss, but with them we can make pokemon more interesting
What a crazy prediction
I wish they'd actually gone with Entitea, that's so much better than Sinistea.
The word "sinistra" became associated with evil/bad intent over the years so "Sinistea" still works as being akin to that.
you do know the word sinister exists, right?
Yes, it came from "sinistra" because english didn't exist when "Sinistra" was first used. You do know etymology of words doesn't stop in the 1500's? I would have thought the relationship between "sinistra" and "sinister" was fricking obvious and didn't need explaining, while the name being one letter off "sinistra" was in need of explanation for context, when some no-wit twat thought "entitea" was better despite being a poorer descriptor.. Figures some ESL needed to point it out for her buddies to understand and try to look smart.
Why do people doubt that there aren't Gamefreak employees browsing this board?
I mean the very first new Pokemon for PLA was Stantler's evolution after all the Stantler shitposting for SWSH
Do you think they’re getting PAID to browse their board or doing it for their own accord? If you think it’s because of the former, you’re moronic.
i mean we did find pretty decent evidence of this. not pokemon itself, but like 5 years ago one of the big companies like ea was listed on some social media "specialist", and one of the specialist tweeted some stuff about Ganker during some promotional thing about their services. i think people may infact be paid to shitpost on Ganker, but not as their entire job. like, they have to get one "promotion" out there per minute, and maybe they toss in one of those threads thats blatent and dies so we never see it as one of the 60 they do per hour. more or less, its just a small fraction of social media shitposting they grind their souls to dust doing. i imagine they review a small slice of what each person does, and so spending a minute on a Ganker post is pretty risky because really, do you want to see your boss review your shit and you present to him "i started this pokethread. uh, yeah, it had engagement. uh...yeah...like...400 images of fat gardevoir got po...posted in it. engagement...yeahh...."
Of course there are no TPCi employees lurking /vp/. They get analytics from mainstream social media, not this irrelevant shithole of a site. And geting data from social media about how your product is perceived among your costumers is mostly an automated job. There's no employee manually reading all your moronic opinions.
Even if everything about Pokemon Red and Green (and subsequent media) becomes public domain, it'll be so unrecognizably far removed from what Pokemon will be in the 2090's that none of Pokemon's owners will care and neither will the consumers of that era.
The Pikachu, Eevee, Charizard, Gengar, Mewtwo and so forth of the first generation are not the same as the ones we see in the current day, having had careful design tweaks over the years that serve to renew and stabilize those Pokemon in ways that allow them to gather new fans while keeping old ones to the best of their ability, ensuring their most recent versions are the ones the common consumer will think about, unable to be replicated by anyone else that may one day seek to utilize the public domain table scraps.
Those public domain opportunists will have no choice but to stick to the visuals Red and Green's era, and by the time the 2090's rolls in, I highly doubt there will be a market for such a bygone era of Pokemon when virtually everyone who was originally there for it will be long dead or senile.
Charizard hasn't changed since gen IV
Actually, they've been slightly altering Charizard's design every so often ever since the jump to 3D. Its model got tweaked for LGPE to be suitable for Switch, then it got refined in SWSH, and was notably changed yet again in SV to be compliant with the new model standards of that game.
this just makes me sad that there might be a pokemon that comes out a year after my death that will be the coolest fricking thing ever. I'd rather die after pokemon as a series conks out, I just can't handle the thought that the series will continue without my existence.
You will continue to exist.
If it's any consolation to the feeling, we probably don't have too many years left before Pokemon goes full "israelite fears the even greedier samurai" mode and starts letting AI make the games, characters, Pokemon and whatnot in order to save money and churn out games at an ungodly pace.
>New Pokemon games and generations after I die?
>I don't want that!
>I want the franchise to die before I go, 10 years before at least!
yes, but completely literally. I could not handle that thought.
call me whatever you want, but pokemon is the biggest reason on why I'm still alive currently. It created my friendships, it created my waifu, and the FOMO of the next generation's list of pokemon is one of the reasons why I haven't ended it all yet. I am pathetic without these pocket monsters.
Pokémon got my boyfriend into gaming. He’s not like a hardcore gamer or anything but he plays video games now. It’s cute seeing him play Pokémon and raise his monsters. He has a Shiny Charizard named Charla he absolutely adores
>pokemon is the biggest reason on why I'm still alive currently.
I hate how much I relate to this.
it's okay, anon. things will get better, I'm sure of it.
This was me before gen 7, but I have tried to kill myself now, and "they saved me" which sucks. now I am just a zombie waiting for the chance to finish the job. pokemon is shit now.
pokemon is shit NOW, but you never know what the future brings, anon. personally, I think the games will eventually get better. not like they ever went downhill to begin with, though.
>ITT anon forgets the difference between copyright and trademark
I want to throw that Grehomie plush in a fire pit
Subtle redesigns.
When 100 years passes, you're not going to get to use Pikachu in anything. You'll only get to use the chubby, 8-bit Pikachu with a shallow Gen 1 movepool from Red and Green.
Sherlock Holmes was created in 1887. Not beyond the realm of conceivable possibility. Even if copyright, as a concept, exists in 100 years, it won't last forever. One day Pokemon will be a template that anyone can build on. I think, only then, will its potential as a storytelling medium finally be explored.
Is that even possible for them to keep the formula work and still create great designs for the next 30 years? Mario or Zelda are quite immortal, but with Pokemon this is much harder without quality drops
They will. They have enough custon money and enough braindead consumers that'll keep it afloat. Literally the only way it can stop will be either Japan going into war and suffering unrecoverable financial losses or we decide to nuke them again. Which will never happen.
It already has became a pop culture Poltergeist like twice and it's still subconsciously beloved by billions of people. The ship of it ever genuinely ending has already sailed. You homosexuals also proved you can't boycott shit even when they do shit like dexit so you surrendered the right to make a difference. Anyways just consume and then wait to consume the next product.
I remember tweeting to masuda during gen 6 that I'm playing samurai warriors and it would be so cool to see a league champion with a strong tiger monster, unironically I think this is how they made Incineroar
>look at all this references to old public domain books and songs we put in our games, isn't it awesome?
>no sorry we want our copyright laws to last forever, nobody but us should be able to draw pikachu
ONE HUNDRED YEARS MORTY *BURP* RICK AND MORTY ONE HUNDRED YEARS MORTY *BELCH* RICK AND MORTY ONE HUNDRED SEASONS MORTY
Inject the fans with A.I. powered medical nanochips that make them immortal so they can consoom forever
Because you animals will keep buying regardless.
a lot more pokeboys
i keep getting older. They stay the same age
One gen every 10 years and this is really feasible. The market markets itself. See: GTA
the franchise is already shit with only 27 years, imagine how shit it will be in 100 years
A 100 years, at least
It's been going for almost 30 years and gets bigger each time a game comes out, so I don't see why it's hard to believe it could go for over 100?
A bubble has to burst eventually, like how people are beginning to get a little sick of Disney now that its becoming clear how corporate the mouse is now. SV may have sold well but the games showed more cracks than they ever have before.
i dont think people are getting sick of disney, either, i just think theatres are on their way out. shits been declining since 2002. covid just gave it a big fat kick in the ass.
So, assuming we get a new generation every 3-4 years without fail because TPCi is going to ensure Game Freak wishes they never had this happen to them, that means by 2123 (100 years from now) we'll between the 32nd and nearly 42nd generation of Pokemon. And assuming The Ride Never Ends, we'll be at generation 100 between the year 2295 and 2386.
The true questions to ask then are what will pokemon/shillmons even look like by then, if Pikachu will still be the master or replaced with a new face, if Zard will continue to be propped up by gimmicks while still dying the sneaky pebbles, and if /vp/ will even still exist by then to still shitpost about the series?
If the ride never ends, i think we’ll eventually see a full regional dex somewhere around Gen 15. Just redesigns of old mons entirely.
If reception goes well enough, that’s the future of Pokemon. Around 1500-1800 unique designs, and variants of that set indefinitely
Trademarks last indefinitely as long as they are used. Ironically the dexcut prevents just this.
I can't even imagine his shitty it will be by then
>How are they gonna be able to do this? Copyright only last 100 years, no matter how mucho they renew it.
Anon, companies can still make media of a franchise after it goes into public domain. If Bram Stroker was alive today, he 100% still could make new Dracula novels.