It's obvious that Xbox is not really a priority for MS anymore, they're more interested in mobile gaming and PC gaming, they don't care if games are optimized for the Xbox, and Xbox is getting outsold by PlayStation 3:1
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MS should just stop producing Xbox consoles
all sports games are slop and have been since NHL hitz 2003
>all sports games are slop since 2003
But anon, Forza Motorsport 3 came out in 2009 and it was one of the finest arcade racers you could play
undo your existence
pc gaming is for trannies and morons
you will fit right in then
hi sis :3
>when met with the objectively best gaming platform, sissy-kun immediately thinks about trannies
lmao
sounds like your family
Uh oh, you’ll get the desk hunchers riled up with this
Won't be long before GPU purchases offer a discount on HRT medication lmao
It'll be the pack in bonus for the NV remake
Look how much seethe this truthful statement generated
he was right on all accounts, you have to be mentally ill to put up with pc as your primary gaming platform
it will always be a word processor/productivity device first, and even game developers treat it that way
Lol I game on pc first and I've never had an issue. Ganker is the only shithole I see where people pretend consoles are a better choice. If you just want to play fifa then sure buy a xbox or playstation.
>I game on pc first and I've never had an issue
fricking kek, if you're gonna post bait like this at least make it less obvious
Nope. I have a 3090 and a 5800x3d. I game primary in 4k and haven't had an issue. If something acts funny I check the pc gaming wiki. Games look great on my LG C1.
>replies with bait
you must be new here
Says the guy larping as a pc expert. I've never had an issue playing games on my tv. I have a PS5 that I don't use because games just look and play worse on there.
gr8 b8 m8
meanwhile massively popular games like elden ring launched with issues on pc day 1
forza just launched with issues on pc
>muh anecdotes! muh machine!
kek, this shit is hilarious, never stop
I didn't have an issue with elden ring at launch. Not to be mean but the issue was mainly people with older cpu's and they patched that up quite fast for those that did. I didn't play forza horizon or motorsport 7 at launch, but I can run those easily at 4k 120+fps now a days. Sure a handful of issues popup but to say it's a worse experience is stupid. It goes to show that you don't know what you're talking about. If you were to give pc gaming a go you would see how dumb console gaming has gotten.
NTA but did you pirate Elden Ring? I believe the stuttering was caused by EAC so pirated copies had better performance than official ones.
No I actually had a good time with it at launch. My friends 4770k however struggled until they patched it.
Okay mate, I hope you enjoy your xbox/ps5 whichever it is you're defending. I like consoles and they had a place at one point but both suck nowadays if we're being objective. You obviously don't intend on arguing in good faith here.
>No I actually had a good time with it at launch. My friends 4770k however struggled until they patched it.
Every copy had microstutters(some less micro than others) at launch. You either ignored it or are lying. It wasn't a hardware issue, it was ubiquitous.
>You obviously don't intend on arguing in good faith here
>I game on pc first and I've never had an issue
hey pot
this is kettle
you're a fricking Black person
>replies with lies and autism about muh older cpus
>meanwhile stuttering was related to gpu shader compilation
anon... all of these articles are still up and searchable on google
it's ok for you to be moronic, but to be a moron so obviously isn't a good look
This is a xbox/pc thread anon. The playstation is for the "gaymers"
t. troony moron
>pc gaming is for trannies
uh oh, unintentional truth bomb, no lies detected…what other platform is rife with mods that are so….degenerate
console is full of hoodlums so youre not losing much
>It's obvious that Xbox is not really a priority for MS anymore,
every xbox series x sold costs MS $200, unlike the PS5 which is being sold at profit. ms wants you on series S or cloud streaming
What? Forza Motorsport had perfect performance on consoles and shit on PC.
> PS5 which is being sold at profit
MS doesn't think so.
>perfect performance
silky smooth 20fps
It's locked 30/60 according to DF
And ray tracing implementation sucks according to DF kek
>MS doesn't think so
Sony publicly stated it in a slide deck for investors.
Only for like the first year was the PS5 being sold at a loss due to R&D and other expenses, but since then all consoles sold have been sold at a profit.
Meanwhile Microsoft has stated in numerous different court cases that they haven't sold a single Xbox-branded console at a profit, ever.
I don't think consoles are the problems. Graphics and devs are the problems. Instead of creating a visually good looking game that runs very well and plays well, you get a more visually good-to-great looking game with all kinds of filters, particle effects, lighting, and whatever else the frick, while the gameplay languishes and runs at low ass frame rates or bounces around from 60FPS to less then back again.
Why devs and normie games don't seem to understand this I don't get. The games should be visually polished as the last thing they ever do to the game. Get all the other shit working first, then put all the pretty graphics (up to a point) at the end.
you're a fricking brainlet. there's nothing to get.
Forza runs at an unshakeable 60fps, 4k with 4x MSAA. Whatever its faults are, performance is not one.
It's a racing game I don't give a shit
It's not only about forza
Consoles can never compete with high-end PCs.
>concerngayging
Tell me he's a snoy without telling me he's a snoy.
all my favourite games are pc exclusives
Porn sites? I access those on my phone.
i meant strategy games
And then you play the pc version and the game is royally fricked on many levels the console version isn't. Ask me how I know.
PC gaming will always be considered lower priority despite all that "potential".
Bro, I play Xbox on my phone and I don't care. Do I see a black avatar? Sorry bro, we aren't all on welfare in here.
What's the big deal with the new Forza that turned it into a console war game? I don't follow dead genres.
every game is a console war game now. snoys despise any level of competition
Gran Turismo is not the console mover it was back in the PS1-PS3 days while Forza has enjoyed quite a lot of success, hence, console wars.
Forza isn't the console mover it was in the 360 days either. Both franchises are past their prime.
Why isn't Microsoft buying Sega yet?
I don't see Microsoft buying a new third party publisher/developer for at least 2 or 3 more years. With the whole Activision thing the whole industry had a meltdown. They need to lose some heat before they try doing it again if they want another deal to go through.
> I don't see Microsoft buying a new third party publisher/developer for at least 2 or 3 more years.
I bet we see one next year.
> With the whole Activision thing the whole industry had a meltdown.
Everyone was cool with that except for Sony.
> They need to lose some heat before they try doing it again if they want another deal to go through.
The only problem from regulators was cloud gaming, so they just need to copypaste CMA remedies and they are good.
Not yet. After the Act/Bliz deal, MS is probably gonna play it slow for a bit. If I were to guess, MS is going to give companies like Sega a lifeline to help them out for a bit before pulling the trigger.
It's clear that Microsoft only cares about game pass. And with the Xbox they have a "well if you need a console we have that thing over there" kind of mentality. I thought that was obvious to everyone at this point.
*monkey noises*
ok
I don't like Sony anymore so will keep buying Microsoft consoles. I won't get another PC again. It isn't worth it given the price, how little I play these days and that all the exclusive genres died.
>Snoys begging for other companies to leave the industry again
Whats next? "Nintendo should go third party!" again?
So is anyone gonna post what’s so egregious about the Xbox version
There was a bug where the game looked washed out that had already been fixed.
It has two 60fps modes (one 4K and one with RT in a slightly lower res) and a 30fps "max everything" mode. All the three modes are locked, no drops anywhere, not even once. No other competitor has extensive RT in their racing game at 60 on consoles, Gran Turismo doesn't even have RT in gameplay.
According to the tweet this is "not caring"
gt7 pushed vr instead of raytracing, right? which people rave about being one of the best vr experiences out there but lmao @ playing $1k to play that shit.
Not really hard to push VR when your game looks like this
but that looks good?
I own the damn game. It does look game at times, but It's obviously a ps4 game first.
Why would you buy a gaming PC to play your same console games?
I am not putting 1500$ in a fricking computer holy shit
It was a smart move when you could get away with a 800$ machine that would last 10 years but now it's just not worth it anymore. Plus it's all GaaS shit and shader comp stutter anyway
You know you can do more than play videogames with a computer zoomie?
You can buy a decent gaming PC today from Steam for $400.
The Xbox has always existed only to lock developers to DirectX, and to force users into a choice between a cheap but entirely locked down ecosystem, or having to pay for the priviledge of a platform that can do anything you want, but with no attention to ease of use or affordability.
Valve has made that irrelevant now with the power of GNU/Linux.
The Xbox should end, and Microsoft should just exit the end-user market entirely. They've never managed to make money on anything other than software for business. Windows and the Xbox just serve no purpose now other than to hold PC gaming back.
>a decent gaming PC today from Steam for $400.
steam deck ? it is handheld device.
It masquerades as a handheld console, but it is in fact a fully capable GNU/Linux powered Gaming PC for $400. You would be hard pressed to build a more capable system yourself for the same cost especially with the added expenses of running Windows, because you need higher-priced hardware for the same performance.
The lowest you can go on GPU is a 6600 for $200 dollars. Get an i3 CPU for $100, MB for $100. $50 for PSU, $50 for Case, $50 for Ram. $50 for SSD. So about $600. We are getting closer but that GPU is weaker than the one in a Xbox.
Why not? A $1500 computer is not very expensive, especially compared to other hardware like a Leica M10 or an iPhone Pro 15
What made up nonsense are snoys concern trolling about now?
To be the prime high-end console with zero competition. That's technically how this console war will ever fricking end but Xbox never heard of any bell and won't stay down.
Twitter said so?
Then it must be true.
I've heard of this guy. He's a xbox shill that goes by the name Xbox University. Looks like he reached his breaking point.
Well if Anon heard about a Twitter nobody...
Then it must be true.
Only takes a second to look it up but go ahead and keeping acting like a homosexual.
It is not my fault you failed snoy.
I could've told you all this 10 years ago. Hell, I wanted to say it 20 years ago. Never did buy into what MS was selling with this brand, but I guess 20 years ago Halo was still a huge deal at least.
The funny part about Halo is that it was going to be a Mac exclusive before Microsoft bought out Bungie, like the rest of Bungies older games were. If Mac had a big reason to use their PCs like Halo, it'd have been healthier for PC gaming over all because there might have been some more competition to Windows.
Nobody from 10 years, especially not 20 years ago had even the slightest idea what will happen now. You couldn't have told shit. You decide something in your head based on your feelings and when you are not wrong once you boast about it.
Not him, but honestly anon lots of people have been saying this for longer than 10 years. Xbox has been a money sink for Microsoft for a long time.
It only managed to get users because Microsoft made Windows crappy for gaming, and there weren't any other options.
Now there are other options for PC gaming, and Windows and Xbox are going to be on their way out.
>lots of people
>can't name a single one
The console userbase didn't change, MS got a big slice when they were on top. They are in the gutter so they don't now. The first Xbox could barely get 20 million users and you are too young if you think Xbox got successful because PC was bad in 2001.
Now there are other options for PC gaming, and Windows and Xbox are going to be on their way out.
What options? Guys like you keep parroting it is over for Windows for decades now and there is still no other option. The deck won't change anything either. The only serious competitor for Windows are smartphones with the nongames.
>you are too young if you think Xbox got successful because PC was bad in 2001.
No I'm old enough to know that what Microsoft did in the early 00s was buy up or pay off a bunch of studios to downgrade their PC titles for the Xbox.
>Guys like you keep parroting it is over for Windows for decades now and there is still no other option.
These things take time. Windows has in fact fallen from 95%+ back in the early 00s, to under 30% today.
>The deck won't change anything either.
Over 3 million sales say otherwise. The massive influx of fake Steam accounts in China is masking how well it is doing. Deck is just the harbinger of the PC gaming market shifting away from Windows.
>The only serious competitor for Windows are smartphones
"Smartphones" are really personal computers with a simplified UI for the general public, running a Free UNIX-like OS.
Steam Deck is a personal computer, with a simplified UI for the general public, running a Free UNIX-like OS.
As hardware that fits in the "phone" TDP gets more capable, the ability of personal computing devices that look like a "phone" being able to run Steam and play PC games becomes a possibility.
The only real question is whether AMD SoCs scale down to fit the TDP, or ARM SoCs running Box64 get fast enough.
>Windows has in fact fallen from 95%+ back in the early 00s, to under 30% today.
In what reality? Or is this the "mobile counts" thing? Lets see Steam stats...
>3 million deck sales
LOL and you guys keep saying it is over for Xbox with 7 times the sales.
So at the same time we're seeing
>The only serious competitor for Windows are smartphones
and
>In what reality? Or is this the "mobile counts" thing?
Seems hard to have that both ways.
Deck is the best selling single-spec open-platform gaming system in about 30 years, and it isn't even in stores yet. You don't even need to buy a Deck to get its software stack and UI.
Xbox at '7 times more than Deck' is only a bit more than twice the user base primarily playing PC games on Linux based systems. That would have been unthinkable a few years ago.
Now what do you think is going to happen as Free UNIX-like OSes optimized for phones get access to more capable hardware, and become more like their desktop counterparts?
If Linux devs are running Steam and playing Half Life 2 on their "phones" now, how long do you think it will be before there are "phones" roughly as capable as the Deck, and Google quits neutering their Linux OSes?
Both are true. You dishonestly try to imply MS has 30% marketshare. Linuxgays are always like this. On actual PC video game platform it is 90% and will always be, no deck will change this ever. Linuxgays are burying windoes for 4 decades now and they are still in the single digits.
>Deck is the best selling single-spec open-platform gaming system in about 30 years, and it isn't even in stores yet.
>and it isn't even in stores yet.
What does this mean, the AI is glitching?
Do you actually believe the likely course of action is linux taking over? You know what it actually is? Locked down smartphone systems will take over and linux will never be on top.
>"Smartphones" are really personal computers with a simplified UI for the general public, running a Free UNIX-like OS.
Kek, Google and Apple locked down smartphones and they will never allow anyone to come up with a free stuff. They will blacklist it from the stores and that is it. They killed Win phones, they killed Huawei and they will kill any free alternative. As soon as Gaben is buried you can bet every butthole on the planet will try to get Steam under their belt.
20 years ago, no. Saying it back then would just make you sound like a salty b***h about Halo. 10 years ago, 360's reputation was in shambles due to Kinect and Mattrick was trying (poorly) to shill his Orwellian vision of Xbone. The whole used game, always online and forced Kinect debacle? "We have an offline device, it's called Xbox 360"? That was 10 years ago anon. 2013 was 10 years ago.
10 years ago is not an argument either. Nobody expected MS won't recover completely eventually. Both Nintendo and Sony had a disaster launch and they recovered. You couldn't have said things will stay this way. Just like how now people keep saying MS will pull out for what? 5 years now? They still didn't, they just bought half the industry.
I could say it because I never liked the brand and it had been noticeably going downhill for about 3 years by chasing Wii's ghost at the time. You want to talk about unpredictability then sure, not even I could predict how bad 2013 was going to go. But MS was absolutely not in a place of good faith going into Xbone's launch, there was no reason going into 2013 to expect a reversal, even if you could just as well anticipate the hole being dug THAT much deeper. But for someone with next to zero investment in the brand, it wasn't hard to guess that whatever they did then wouldn't be for me, so why should I care if they turn it around or not?
Microsoft should just make Xbox a home computer that is also a console.
A steam machine? That worked so well last time.
To be fair the only reason they really failed was Valve tried to go through OEMs that had a business relationship with Microsoft, and Microsoft told the OEMs they would be violating their contracts and have to pay them a boatload of money.
That's why for the second-gen Steam Machine, the Deck, Valve decided to just do it themselves.
Youre listening to a guy with a Black person Danny Phantom avatar?
That's how you know he's a legitimate microsoft fan.
>they're more interested in mobile gaming
A little
>PC gaming
lol no
Their PC ports are still pretty shoddy and inconsistent.
It's Cloud gaming that they're focused on and the xCloud shards are all just souped up Series S units so I don't think you have anything to worry about
Plenty of people don't want a PC, they just want a box that will always work and run games. PC is definitely superior but every now and then you'll run into issues like having to update drivers or games older games not running well. A lot of people don't want to bother and just want a box that will automatically take care of that for them that they can turn on after work without any fuss.
Cope snoy troony
Consoles were always PCs for morons, and morons still abound. Those people throwing a tantrum and threatening to go to PC are just bluffing and they will still stay with whatever console at the end of the day because if they really had two braincells to rub together they'd have been on PC a decade ago.
Same can be said for PS5. Just buy a PC
>Xbox isn't a priority
Without the xbox gold money and the 30% tax they get from each sold copy, lootboxes, season passes etc xbox would disappear in a month.
Gamepass is a bleeding money machine and they can't sustain a trillion studios, a lot of them with AAA games with just PC, which on top has the smallest install base for resource heavy games.
>PC gaming a priority
Considering most devs idea of optimisation is "Lmao get a 4090. Oh a 4090 still can't get stable high FPS? Wait for a 5090 then." it moist certainly fricking isn't.
Xbox runs my pc games at no extra cost
it plays steam games now?
gaming on pc sucks and game developers hate pc gamers
pc-only peeps have the same stockholm syndrome that snoys do and can't even begin to comprehend playing games anywhere else
Daily Snoy Seething thread?
Just make physical games for pc and bypass steam that way.
HAHAHAHA I'm a pc gaming and you should still laugh at this homosexual. Look at his Niggy Phantom picture.
Yes. Yes! I will live to see the Xbox and more importantly Microsoft exit the console making market! The cost of having this demonic entity in the gaming space for this long sure has had a very bad impact on gaming but I'm sure the longer they stay the further they will devolve it and sully it.
>black man on twitter
didn't ask, don't care
Thanks, but I'm not interested in the opinion of a Black person.
I'm going to do the same this gen as last, wait until the XSX is £100 and all the games are £4 a pop. My entire generation of gaming costs less than what most pay for their console.
>wait until the XSX is £100
It's hard to see that even happening. The XSS is still the same £250 it was 3 years ago and a good sale goes down to £200.
It's so weird to think there was a time when this board wasn't dominated by bots. You can actually see the sentiment for games/consoles rise and fall with the condition of releases. Like, before Starfield, Xbox opinion was pretty high (relative to historical trends) on this board. And then about 2 weeks before Starfield came out, the catalog has been dominated by anti-microsoft topics. You can search most of them and see they've been repeated dozens of times in the last month. Seriously. Open the catalog, and search. It's the same fricking bot posting the same anti-microsoft posts over and over.
It's extremely funny when the regurgitated shit algorithm starts breaking down, i.e. look at the first few threads when Hi-Fi Rush shadowdropped without time for an anti-shill or shitposting campaign and tell me those are normal humans
The only reason MS is releasing any games whatsoever is literally selling them on Xbox, if they removed the xbox division they would probably sell the game dev companies within a few years, their games are not profitable, they operate at a loss, they can't maintain the game division without the xbox division.
Everyone that isn't Nintendo will probably move towards dedicated PC gaming within the next 1-2 gens, ditching the shitboxes once they have real confidence that normalgay morons can competently buy/put together functioning machines, they want digital stores of their own and PC gaming is literally only held back by the barrier to entry being "needing more than a single-digit IQ," which most mutts and children that want an automatic games player don't meet. Nintendo only won't because they have enough sticking power off first-parties alone, people WILL buy a Nintendo handheld just for Smash or Zelda or Mario.
>Everyone that isn't Nintendo will probably move towards dedicated PC gaming within the next 1-2 gens
Doubt. Convenience will always take precedence over potential. Perchance.
Just 10 years ago people were up in arms over the Xbone requiring you to be always online because "what if I don't have internet" and PC gaming was still mostly an afterthought to consoles in the AAA space. Two gens is more than enough real world time for shit to change further, PCs becoming convenient enough to justify it is definitely possible.
Lol the guys here would rather pretend companies like bamco and capcom don't build the games pc first then port to consoles. It's crazy how big pc gaming has gotten.
>Just 10 years ago people were up in arms over the Xbone
And they all moved to Playstation, anon. PC is still not the market's first choice.
Playing it in RT performance mode this very minute.
Looks and plays great on my LG C1.
seethe harder
it really took Forza to make this clear to you? you didn’t notice this with Redfall, Halo Infinite and Starfield? it’s obvious Microsoft don’t give a shit and just want Gamepass to be their Netflix, they’re in the business of making vidya equivalent of an AI scripted and directed Netflix slop starring the Rock, Ryan Reynolds, Gal Gadot and Ryan Gosling
Windows is not a priority for MS either. All they care about is enterprise money.
>’should convince all Xbox gamers’
the frick, they actually exist? I thought they were a meme, like that PeterOvo fellow
Chasing a "good gaming pc" just means constantly spending money on upgrades to stay ahead of whatever everyone else has. It's just a money sink over the console way of doing things.
Yeah it seems like they'd save a lot of fricking money by ceasing selling hardware. Do they still sell the motherfrickers at a loss?
What happened with forza?
Xbots ITT are trying to pretend the criticism is mostly graphical on Xbox, but from what I’ve seen its the actual content the games shipped with, it’s extremely barebones with questionable design choices on ‘levelling’ cars. it seems the Xbox hype crowd bigged this up as a GT7 killer and its barely comparable with Hot Wheels Unleashed, Microsoft just shit it out basically
So what does Forza have to do with all this?
nothing
anyone who's actually played the xbox and pc versions of forza know the pc version is way more busted
either way, all game companies are now making players pay to be their qa department
its shit
like Starfield was shit
like Redfall was shit
like Halo was shit
but Hi Fi Rush was amazing, Game Of The Generation
>I want a monopoly
No you don't