>"muh Gen 5 was a passion project"
>"muh Unova was the last time the devs cared"
If they "cared" so much, then why is the entire map just a circle with a line coming out?
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>>"muh Gen 5 was a passion project"
>>"muh Unova was the last time the devs cared"
it's funny you could say these things about gen 6 and it would objectively be way more accurate
/vp/ truly has an adage wherby the mere mention of Unova or Kalos could result in a flame war between gen 5 and 6
something something mt coronet
Literally straightforward design philosophy.
I liked it because the routes and their music had alot of charm to them.
If you want a more complex experience that is ofcourse if you might recall Black 2 White 2 wherein there is more backtracking and hectic exploration wherein you don't know where your adventure will take you next at all.
Because of how chaotic the route exploration was it was both confusing but also unexpected.
Best region by far. Very unique, music is per route is the best in the series, the DS pixel art gives it more added care and detials which was lost in the Great Leap Forward to 3D.
10/10 generation, also has my favorite champion of all time in it: Alder..
P.S Started playing back in pearl and played all mainline Gen 3 and 4 games before Gen 5.
Just for context.
>music is per route is the best in the series
really?. just route 10 sticks out to me. i can remember a bunch of music from the sinnoh or hoenn route though
Route 6, Victory Road, Relic Castle are among my favorite next to Route 10.
However I am able to quite literally physically vibe and move to the sound of every route.
THOUGH THE WHISTLE OF ROUTE 2 IS AUTISTIC AS FRICK.
Its fitting I would say but that does not make it any less autistic at all. It is an odd choice.
really underrated part of the gen 5 games is the dynamic route music
>walking around on routes adds more percussion to the base theme
>seasons slightly tweak the instruments
>standing near or talking to certain npcs will add the instruments that they're playing to the music
>cave music gets slower and lower pitched the deeper you get
If only that carried onto other games. Probably unnecessary work, but I would hope it returns. At least with it not returning it doesnt have to return in a half baked game. Maybe one day GF will go all out and put dynamic music in a good game.
Doesn’t S/V have dynamic music based on riding/not riding and flying?
Village Bridge
>the DS pixel art gives it more added care and detials
The pixel art would be nice if they animated using additional sprites rather than the shitty pixel tweening they went with.
Still, it looks miles better than gen 6.
> Still, it looks miles better than gen 6
bait
Why aerodactyl's tail is pointing upwards in the sprite animation?
because they lazily copied the front sprite from DPPt and had to make the back sprite match
>ESL moron
Opinion disregarded
Your circle, sir.
i struggle to think of a single memorable route in Unova, they all kinda blend in especially once you start getting past Driftveil.
I guess the square mountain with the weather changes was like kind of cool?
I think there was one with puddles instead of tall grass?
I think the issue is since the game has seasons they felt the need to make all the routes bland and vanilla looking by default just you can see the difference when the seasons change. Regions like Hoenn and Kalos have way more variety in terms of route aesthetic.
Fair point Im the guy here
Yeah I agree that Kalos had more diversity even within the forest routes, however the music did not make me enjoy those routes which is part of the adventure and travelling from one place to the other in the end.
It’s funny how you could say these things about Gen 6 and it would objectively be way more accurate.
>t. Zoomie angry his first entry into pokemon was shit.
meant for
Kalos is shit
parroting is an admission of defeat
There’s no argument to have been defeated in. Kalos shilling out of no where was never even justified to begin with.
>shilling out of no where was never even justified to begin with
sounds like unova
Shitposting isn't good for your health.
Yeah, so why are you doing it?
All the routes sucked ass in every game, Paldea is the best region so far and how Pokemon should be played.
Hoenn had cool routes.
No.
Yeah it did, you had the volcanic ash route near Fallarbor, the route that passes under cycling road and of course the routes surrounding Fortree with the changing weather and super tall grass which are probably the gold standard for any Pokemon route.
Even some of the surf routes were memorable like the one that leads to the Regis with the fast current puzzle.
Gen 5 was the zoomer gen and when pokemons decline sharpened. Shit out, shit 'mons, shit characters, shit map, shit story.
ironic comming from a jothodler
Black 2 White 2 gives the balance of old mons and new mons, which is something Unova needed but it further gives the game SO MUCH BEAUTY.
In the original gen 5 games you can enjoy the entire region as its stand alone entry, no ties to any other game (except for that team rocket dad in Icirrus City) as it was a whole new start like Hoenn was but this time it is with a bit more new pokemon than before.
I agree not all designs are as strong as Hoenn, I believe every Hoenn design is a diamond in its own right, including Luvdisc it is a niche valentines pokemon I love it.
B2W2 did not have to be made. We could have went straight to Gen 3 remakes in the Gen 5 style and that was it. However with Black and White receiving what surmounts to a sequel and a remake we were given a unique experience that has never been replicated as much as before with the exception of USUM but that is like cheating. We want sequels and remasters, not updated versions set in an alternate timeline if you arrived 1 year later.
B2W2 because it is a sequel gives that RESO-NATING Feeling of old and new which is POETIC because it gives access to the old mons,
Gen 5 was a masterpiece. INCLUDING THE WORLDBUILDING. Some of the best Pokemon Lore ever made and the world in my opinion felt more alive because of it. GameFreak finally made their European based game which they wanted for atleast since Gen 2 I believe with there being alot of movies and sidegames set in a European environment.
That further melts into how Japanese people thought the USA had castles and kings like Europe when they first met the USA.
Gen 5 was genius, asbolutely genius. Unfortunately because Black and White sold less than even Diamond and Pearl did and B2W2 selling even less Gamefreak most likely will not take the risk of making Third Versions of Sequel or reboot games ever again.
We had Gold my friends. Absolute Gold/
>I agree not all designs are as strong as Hoenn, I believe every Hoenn design is a diamond in its own right, including Luvdisc it is a niche valentines pokemon I love it.
Gee, I wonder which was your first region. /sarcasm
Pearl but grew up with Hoenn media from start to finish because in the Netherlands the Pokemon Advanced anime began airing at the same time Pokemon Pearl was released so I grew up before that with the latter half of the Johto saga and followed the Kanto saga on DVD.
There is not a single bad Hoenn design. Yes even Luvdisc is neat it is a niche valentines pokemon.
You personally liking all the gen3 designs does not mean they were all well-made. You have an egocentric mentality. Also, pokémon designs are nothing more than images created by a bunch of japanese people throwing shit at a wall, specially during the development of gen3 when the focus was on developing the gameplay/engine. You have to be delusional to believe this somehow produced not just the best batch of them but also designs that are literally perfect.
You must be fun at parties.
It was an enjoyable region. Thats all I need
Reminder you're in a discord thread, goodbye.
Give us an actually good location like this again you fricking cowards.
why are people still crying about the shape of the region map in 2024?
it doesn't matter if the region is laid out like an actual straight line as long as exploration feels rewarding (it does, yawngay need not seethe and cry)
>It's another daily session of schizo must seethe at Unova for no reason
People were transitioning from holy shit we love playing games to holy shit we love watching games, They catered to the latter.
see im fine with the region being more linear, but it bums me out how many routes are just straight lines
That's it? That's your counter argument?
>linear games bad
Was Unova based on Shanghai or New York?
It's New York except if America had it's own history and culture more like Europe's, rather than being a settler colony.
Gen V is tied with Gen III for best generation.
In addition to the most expansive worlds to explore, these were also the generations which had the most post-game content, which is what ultimately makes your journey meaningful. You don't just spend all that time training your team, just to put the game down and move on. You actually get to see and enjoy the fruits of your labour.
Emerald and B/W2 are the peaks of the series.
Anti-bias qualifications: My first Pokemon was Yellow at the age of 10. Pokemon Black was my second Pokemon at the age of 21.
Nobody has replied to this post because it can't be argued with.
X/Y is half finished and has zero post game, and zoomers will do anything to avoid confronting it.
> because it can't be argued with
yeah because you didn’t actually provide any substance in your post and just went “THING GOOD” over and over again for a paragraph just so you can inevitably go “NUH UH” whenever anyone refutes you.
I wholeheartedly agree. I never really understood the hate for Gen V even when it first came out. I'm glad more people are now starting to appreciate it.
>Tubeline Bridge
It's pronounced Tewb-a-leen. Prove me wrong.
Not a circle.
Anyways, that's entirely unrelated to it being a passion project or not, in fact, calling it that has zero implication to the quality of it.
>a circle with a line coming out?
So... a bladder and a penis?
>having a loop = the whole region is a circle
smartest genwar schizoes
The map in that image was simplified, the routes were not perfect lines.
For example:
>be at Striaton City
>leave town through North exit
>enter route and go West
>approach branching path leading into Wellspring Cave
>go South on the path
>then go West again to enter Nacrene City
Because that's not the full map.
PWT that mogs everything nuPokémon has ever done.
Battle Maison is better.
PWT is incredibly boring because it's too easy. Has no value beyond clapping at characters you recognize on the screen.
You're a soulless zoomer tho so your opinion is worthless.
If I was a zoomer I wouldn't be praising the PWT. Emerald BF has my favorite battle facilities in the series.
Emerald BF > HGSS/PT BF > Battle Maison > Battle Subway > Battle Tree >>> PWT
Emerald BF > HGSS/Pt BF > PWT > Battle Subway > Battle Tree > Battle Maison > Generic Battle Tower.
Battle Maison is literally just the Battle Subway with more content. Thanks for revealing yourself to be a nostalgiagay with no standards.
>A large amount of data from the Battle Maison appears to have been imported from its predecessor, the Battle Subway from Generation V:
>Many of the Pokémon species (from before Generation VI) in the Battle Maison share the same movesets as their Battle Subway counterparts in the Super challenges. Additionally, none of the fully evolved species that have been excluded from the Super challenges in the Battle Subway appear in those of the Battle Maison.
>Several Trainers from the Battle Maison in Pokémon X and Y have exactly or very similar quotes to those of similar Trainer Classes in the Battle Subway. A few even have the same name.
Amon if you played the Subway first, which was better designed by far, there’s no reason to play the Maison. How is Triples or Rotations any better than the other two modes?
> there’s no reason to play the Maison.
How do I play Rotation Battles in the Subway?
Why would you want rotation battles in the subway?
Original > Copy + Paste. Hence why subway > Maison.
Also battles are faster on gen 5 compared to gen 6 so that's also a plus for subway.
Rotation an triple battles become sub 20 fps slugfests, the only cool thing about Maison was easier Multi due to everyone and their grandmas owning a 3DS
More content > less content
Why did you ignore the technical issues with Maison though?
Nope because XY feels barren after the third gym. If all the game was as full of content as the first few gyms then yeah XY would be much higher.
> Why did you ignore the technical issues with Maison though?
There are no technical issues.
> Nope because XY feels barren
Oh, so content suddenly matters over originality now? Which is it?
BW2 literally gives you the same starters as BW and copy pastes most of the maps from BW. Platinum literally gives you the same starters as DP and copy pastes most of the maps from DP. What’s your point?
And every other aspect of the game.
>There are no technical issues
So this is the power of the Kalos defense force. Any triple or rotation in XY makes the game borderline unplayable, and your only refutation is pure denial?
>Which is it
Original Content is ideal
>same starters
So? XY has the lowest ratio of new pokemon, yet you don’t seem to care.
>others aspects
Nope. They took old games and revamped them in original ways. Kalos took old campaigns from games and made them half different but half just being the same in ways it should not have been, especially for a first version game.
So you agree XY is better than BW2 and Platinum, right? Since XY is an original game while BW2 and Platinum are copy/pastes.
Well no. Besides the region itself, XY relied too heavily on past games for EVERYTHING ELSE, including things they marketed as new.
> XY relied too heavily on past games
And Platinum and BW2 don’t?
XY literally gives you a Kanto starter, copy+pasted viridian forest, forces you to face a pidgey as a first encounter...
Only for the region.
This post right here is everything wrong with Kalosgays. It’s the moment that opened up a genwar as a certainty instead of a possibility. We’re talking about battle facilities specifically, and this post decided to not address the point being made against him (probably because he couldn’t) to deflect to the games in general. If there’s anyone that deserves to be banned for instigating genwars, it’s this Kalosgay. It’s getting increasingly blatant-we every time.
> It’s the moment that opened up a genwar as a certainty instead of a possibility
No, that was
when you started crying about “nuPokemon”.
> to deflect to the games in general
Because I’m curious about your standards. You think originality has more value than content. So clearly XY is better than Platinum and BW2, right? But you realized the frick up in your disingenuous standards and now you’ve switched to b***hing about the genwars you started as a deflection tactic.
> Any triple or rotation in XY makes the game borderline unplayable
It is playable though.
> Original Content is ideal
So you agree XY is better than BW2 and Platinum, since it’s more original than either of those games. Good to know.
> crying about “nuPokemon”.
That was in the context of doing a battle facility, not any feature ever
>deflects again
The point is that you shifted away from battle facilities. You once again aren’t addressing how you just did that and are instead doubling down on another argument you’ll probably lose.
>it is playable though
Not enjoyably
>Xy is more original
No it’s not
You're so intellectually dishonest it's kind of amusing.
XY steals from other generations, BW2/Pt/E being the "third version" have a reason to improve upon the base games. Ideally only the third versions should exist. However in a vaccum the third versions mog XY which is still in base game tier and it's not particularly close to the top.
> BW2/Pt/E being the "third version" have a reason to improve upon the base games
But you said yourself that improvements don’t matter if the content isn’t original. Which is it?
When did I say that? You're arguing against multiple people and pretending it's one person anon.
> When did I say that?
Read the previous posts before jumping into an ongoing discussion and claiming other people are the ones being dishonest. You’ll make yourself look like less of a moron next time.
>can’t point it out
Get off your high horse and stop being intentionally moronic anon. This is the exact opposite of arguing in good faith.
I’m waiting anon
You still didn't define originality anon. Idk why you link that other post.
Do you even know how to read?
Yeah, I don’t know why you’re linking to another post when you’re the one who brought up originality in
first.
The second post isn't me though, we've gone over this.
I'm extending good faith by allowing you to define "originality".
> I'm extending good faith by allowing you to define "originality" but not the person who brought it up first
The person who brought it up first used it within the context of battle facilities specifically, which was demonstrated here
Now you’re using it as a general genwar tactic. Now how do you define originality in the context of the overall game?
> Now how do you define originality in the context of the overall game
The same way (You)’re using it in the context of battle facilities.
> and I'm talking to you
And not the person who brought it up first. I wonder why that is?
Drop the act. Just articulate your definition already anon instead of playing the shift game. This is a third grade problem.
Because they aren't here... Are you like autistic or something?
Drop the whataboutisms and just define the terms so we can move forward, otherwise I'll take it as you conceding.
I don't even know if that other anon is ITT anymore and I'm talking to you. Why won't you just define the terms so we can move forward?
>then why is the entire map just a circle with a line coming out?
Because Mt. Coronet mindbroke so many Japanese children that parents were unironically sending complaint letters, both physical and digital, en masse to GameFreak to a point where they couldn't possibly ignore it.
>OP doesn't know what a circle is
How do I collect type gems in XY?
And now we’ve devolved to the “NUH UH” point of the Unova defense. Grim.
>it’s only bad when Unovagays do it and I have no rebuttal, but when Kalosgays say nuh uh even after a rebuttal it’s perfectly fine for them to say nuh uh repetitively on the same point
>XY isn't more original than Platinum and BW2 despite having a brand new region, dozens of new Pokemon, an entirely new story and characters, and brand new models and graphics assets because uhhhhhhhhhhh.....SH-SHUT UP!!
Which ends up giving me a similar experience to playing shit like RS and DP. Meanwhile, Pt and B2W2 actually improved the experience instead of decorating it.
> Meanwhile, Pt and B2W2 actually improved the experience
You mean like…how the Battle Maison improved the experience of the Battle Subway?
How is it improved?
>shifts back to facilities when caught being a moron
For a first version, originality is more important. For an intentional improvement, the raw numbers matter more. These do not contradict. Now stop shifting like a rat.
> How is it improved?
It has Triple and Rotation Battles.
> For an intentional improvement, the raw numbers matter more
So you agree Battle Maison is better than the Battle Subway since it’s an intentional improvement, right?
>it has other modes that are less playable because they’re extremely unoptimized
So it’s not an improvement.
>so you agree.
Stop being moronic. By intentional improvement, I was referring to the games we tend to call third versions.
>less playable
They’re more playable because I can’t do it in the Subway.
> By intentional improvement, I was referring to the games we tend to call third versions
How is it relevant if the game is a 3rd version or not? You didn’t mention 3rd versions in your original claim of “ Original > Copy + Paste”. Is it because you realized you made yourself look like an utter disingenuous moron so now you need to shift goalposts?
>I can’t do it in the subway.
Yes, you can’t slow down and possibly crash your game for no benefit in the Subway. That’s a good thing and makes the Subway more playable
>you didn’t mention it before
Because no one brought up third versions at that point. We were discussing the Subway and the Maison only before the genwar started, which were both introduced in first version games.
> Yes, you can’t slow down and possibly crash your game for no benefit
It doesn’t crash my game and the benefit is having more content to play.
> Because no one brought up third versions at that point
No, it’s more like you realized your frick up and had to suddenly add that as a qualifier just as an excuse to keep up your blatantly dishonest standards where you need to mindlessly wiener suck anything in BW2 and mindlessly shit on anything in XY.
>doesn’t crash my game
It slows it down. Six 3D models rendered was always like that
>more content
Nope, just different content. Integrating one part of the game (triples and rotations) into another (battle facilities) doesn’t create something new.
>y-you fricked up
How? We were comparing the Subway to the Maison, which were both introduced in first version games, so I pointed out that Subway is more original, and that originality is an important factor for a battle facility. You took that and ran with it by saying originality is now also important for saying rehashes are bad now, which is a moronic leap of logic.
> It slows it down
And?
> Nope, just different content.
It’s a separate format, added onto the old formats, so it’s more content.
> How?
Because you realized you revealed that you’re a genwarring shitposter whose standards are completely dishonest and inconsistent beyond “UNOVA GOOD KALOS BAD”
Also, items interesting how you dodged my question about how whether or not the game is a 3rd version is even relevant. If’s almost like it’s not relevant at all and you just arbitrarily added it for a rule for your schizophrenic argument.
> So what if the performance is shit
Holy frick. No wonder GF decided to stop caring, Zoomers will consoom unoptomised shit and defend it.
Completely agree.
That happened to basically no one. No one in Japan specifically chased it and decided “you know what, I’ll get back to this ten second chase to fly elsewhere”. Meanwhile….
That happened to basically no one and was easily fixed even without the patch. Meanwhile...
>And?
And that means it’s worse than the Subway, which does not.
>new format
How does that improve the facility?
>muh inconsistency!
Yes. The standards for a facility being a good one include originality. Me not applying that to something completely different (special edition games meant to provide more content) isn’t inconsistent.
>how is it relevant
Already addressed. First versions aren’t supposed to be the rehashes. The rehashes are supposed to be rehashes. Rehashes being rehashes doesn’t make them bad rehashes. The whole point is to maximize content and fix problems. This is not the objective and/criteria when judging a first version game, which would be to be original.
> And that means it’s worse
How do I do Triple and Rotation battles in the Subway?
> How does that improve the facility?
By adding more to do.
> The standards for a facility being a good one include originality
Source?
> First versions aren’t supposed to be the rehashes
Source?
>Subway doesn’t have them
You’re not telling me how it would inprove the Subway anon.
>more to do
No, it’s just different from singles and doubles. The whole point is the replayability. Why should I do the triples and rotations over singles and doubles?
>Source?
Stop being moronic. Different things have different standards. That’s common sense.
> You’re not telling me how it would inprove the Subway anon
I did. You’re just resorting to your usual tactic of “NUH UH”
> No, it’s just different from singles and doubles
Which means there’s more to do, yes.
> Stop being moronic
i.e. “I have no source and I’m pulling shit out of my ass”
> Different things have different standards
i.e. “It’s ok for me to have inconsistent as frick standards that happens to always favor unova”
>I did
You said it’s more, and I corrected you by explaining how it’s not, but rather just different.
>four infinities is greater than two infinities
Nope.
>i.e.
What would a source for that even look like? It’s common sense that “doesn’t taste good” isn’t the proper standard when judging how good an airplane is. First versions aren’t supposed to be the rehashes. The rehashes are supposed to be rehashes. Rehashes being rehashes doesn’t make them bad rehashes. The whole point is to maximize content and fix problems. This is not the objective and/criteria when judging a first version game, which would be to be original.
>inconsistent
Yes. My sandwich doesn’t taste good because it’s not a fast enough airplane.
That actually happened to no one, like glitches in most Pokemon games. The Lumiose Save Glitch, however, was so common across all versions that they had to put out that map to prevent people from triggering it. Who would have thought saving was extremely common? This was a much more massive oversight that should have been caught during testing.
>should have been caught during testing
I agree. They even had to ban Sky Drop from World Championships because they just didnt care enough to test. Massive oversight.
>muh edge case tier glitch every gen has
Still not on par with the Lumiose save glitch. Something that easy to trigger is inexcusable.
>Something that easy to trigger is inexcusable
It isn’t easy to trigger though.
Saving isn't easy?
>edge case tier glitch every gen has
Every gen doesnt have to ban moves from the world championships because the devs are lazy...
I don't think it's lazy to test every single move in every single edge case each. Compgays just exploit what they can. It's much lazier to not catch the fact that you can't save in a massive area in the game, which everyone does.
>and I corrected you by explaining how it’s not
No you didn't. You just went "NUH UH" because you're out of arguments.
>Nope.
Yup.
>What would a source for that even look like?
I'm glad you admit that you don't have a source and are pulling things out of your ass.
>Yes. My sandwich doesn’t taste good because it’s not a fast enough airplane.
We're not talking about the speed of sandwiches. We're talking about features in video games vs features in video games.
>The Lumiose Save Glitch, however, was so common
No it wasn't.
>No you didn’t
Ignoring it doesn’t make it cease to exist. This is ironic when you’re accusing others of saying “nuh uh”
>four infinities is more than two infinities
This is objectively false. You still haven’t given a benefit to triples and rotations. The only result is half of what I choose being jittery and laggy for no benefit.
>I’m glad you admit
That you have no concept of standards being different for different things? Yeah, you’re pretty dumb for that.
>We’re talking about
seperate standards for a new gen game and a rehash? Yes. The standards for the overall game is different than that of a battle facility. I’m sure you don’t want a battle facility with random wild Pokemon, but would hate a game without wild Pokemon encounters.
>no it wasn’t.
It objectively was so common with the normie player they put out that map of where not to save. Stop coping.
>brand new region
Almost none of Kalos is actually creative. It’s all insanely generic to demonstrate 3D. There were no otherworldly locations like the distortion world
>inb4 hallway
We’re talking about creativity. The closest Kalos came was LE CAVE WITH MIRRORS. Chargestone mogs that trash conceptually. Unova’s and Sinnoh’s diverse cities mog Kalos’s samey cities.
>entirely new stories and characters
Story is a retread of previous gen’s of the highest order the series has seen. All the characters have no arc and are blander than ever before.
>brand new models and graphical assets
You only have a point here when referring to the pokemon models specifically, which were all present in Pokédex 3D Pro and the Pokepark series and slightly edited by Creatures Inc to fit XY. This only applies for new Pokemon.
>dozens of new Pokemon
Lowest roster ever, highest dud ratio ever, lowest number of people’s favorites statistically, and began nostalgia pandering design wise with Megas.
Creativity isn’t about doing a technically new thing LE MANY TIMES. It’s about how creative those things actually are.
>B-B-BUT
you haven’t proven Platinum and BW2 are more original.
Define originality and how to quantify it.
I wasn’t trying to. You asserted that XY were more original and that post you responded to was me showing how you’re wrong.
You didn’t show me I’m wrong though because you failed to prove XY isn’t more original than Platinum and BW2.
> Original > Copy + Paste
> Original > Copy + Paste
> Original > Copy + Paste
>you failed to prove (thing proved here
Almost none of Kalos is actually creative. It’s all insanely generic to demonstrate 3D. There were no otherworldly locations like the distortion world
>inb4 hallway
We’re talking about creativity. The closest Kalos came was LE CAVE WITH MIRRORS. Chargestone mogs that trash conceptually. Unova’s and Sinnoh’s diverse cities mog Kalos’s samey cities.
>entirely new stories and characters
Story is a retread of previous gen’s of the highest order the series has seen. All the characters have no arc and are blander than ever before.
>brand new models and graphical assets
You only have a point here when referring to the pokemon models specifically, which were all present in Pokédex 3D Pro and the Pokepark series and slightly edited by Creatures Inc to fit XY. This only applies for new Pokemon.
>dozens of new Pokemon
Lowest roster ever, highest dud ratio ever, lowest number of people’s favorites statistically, and began nostalgia pandering design wise with Megas.
Creativity isn’t about doing a technically new thing LE MANY TIMES. It’s about how creative those things actually are.)
Try’s again moronbro
> Original > Copy + Paste
That’s referring to a first version like XY. See
That only implies that BW (which holds the original content) is better than a sequel. Not that XY that's a bad Kanto copy is any good.
I'm waiting anon
>If they "cared" so much, then why is the entire map just a circle with a line coming out?
Because Mount Coronet actually filtered moronic children and Gamefreak overcompensated afterwards.
every game except gen 1 is shit because every other game is just copying gen 1
you heard it from the unova shill here first folks
Daily Kalos meltdown #758
There should be a rule against posting threads related to unova and kalos
Truly sistergens. They deserve each other.
I've never particularly cared about battle facilities
>start playing bw
>literally have to put up with seeing patrats, lilipups, purrloins, audinos everywhere
>lose interest
>play b2w2
>extremely boring and sluggish
no idea why pokegays hail these games as the le masterpieces
shitnnoh is also the same, except this time you have to put up with the slow speed too
i enjoyed playing xy and beyond more (obviously all pirated because i wont give my money to shitfreak)
>muh distribution in specific areas
Maybe the good mons are distributed elsewhere kek. If everything was everywhere that wouldn't be distribution.
>Maybe the good mons are distributed elsewhere kek
Yeah like in Alola.
I meant elsewhere in Unova, moron.
every location should spawn every mon
Meant to greentext second one, apologies
Oh you mean like Blueberry Academy terrarium?
>all Unova mons bad lol
Your bait isn't working.
? I like Archaludon though
>Archaludon somehow good
Better than Duraludon but still shitty. Now you're just doubling down and ENSURING everyone here knows you're a moron.
There are plenty of good looking Unovamons there, like Hydrapple and uhhh Emboar.
There’s plenty of good looking Unovamons in the mainland as well.
Yup plenty of good looking mons in mainland of Kitakami.
Nope. Mainland Unova. Stop seething anon.
>Nope
Oh so Leavanny is not good looking? Damn...
Anon from
here.
In B2W2 you literally get on the second route and its extended location the Floccessy Ranch a Mareep, Venipede, Sewaddle and Riolu.
Navigate towards the east, enter the Route Gate (yes we had those remember? they added the impression of modern infrastructure into the game) that leads to Virbank City, then go to the south of Virbank and you have access to Magnemite and Elekid/Magby.
What do you mean you struggle with shitmons in every early route? We were spoiled with proper power per location, excluding the first route from BW and B2W2.
Because BW/BW2 were decent RPGs which is outstanding for Pokémon games. It's blatantly obvious that people who defend SS or SV only play pokémon.
Game Freak loves circles.
They sure do.
>israelite York (with Tunnels)
Accumula town… SOVL…
They clearly gave a shit with Gen V. Unlike with everything past Gen V, wich are literal cashgrabs made with as little as effort and budget as possible.
rpgs are linear to tell a story
This game has unironically 3 flaws.
>map is just a circle
>unova mons evolve waaay too late
And depends on who you ask
>only nu-mons
But I love actually like most of them so it is fine.
>is...
>is that...
>UNOVA????
>AIIIEEEEEEEEEIT'SSHITIT'SSHITIT'SSHITIT'SSHITIT'SSHITIT'SSHITIT'SSHITIT'SSHITIT'SSHIT SAVE MEEEEEEEE
Gen 4 was so bad that I skipped gen 5. Is it worth playing? It has some of what I think are the worst Pokemon designwise
Try it and see if you like it. If you don't, then just drop it.