MW3 totally rocks. It so flawlessly transfered the feeling of piloting a heavy walker to the player, I just couldn't play MW4 after 3.
The steps, the inertia, the sounds... MW3 is must-have for every Battletech fan.
I hate to be that guy but NOLF games are not that good. People say it's funny, fell flat for me and the gameplay is just dreadful. Feels like it's just nostalgia.
What is it with Microsoft mice that make them the go to mouse for /vr/?
The Intellimouse 1.1, Wheel Mouse Optical, and Explorer 3.0 are all really good mice with performance on the level of modern gaming mice (if overclocked from the default 125hz) and period correct as that guy mentioned. They're also not unobtainium, yet.
>good mice with performance on the level of modern gaming mice (if overclocked from the default 125hz)
Yes and no. They are really good nice and overclock well, but there has been a lot of progress when it comes to sensors over the past 20 years also, so I wouldn't say that they are on the same level as good nice today, they are just good mice in general though.
Also don't fall for the 8000Hz meme Reddit spams about these mice, the sensor starts rounding up over 1000Hz, not that you'd ever actually need over 1000/2000, ever.
Yeah, that was hyperbole I guess, but at 1000hz it's accurate enough where the hardware is hardly a limiting factor for any human competitive gamer. It tracks really well and with less jitter than some modern, allegedly good mice I've used. Negative acceleration and 400dpi aside, it still nails certain aspects like liftoff distance which some modern mice are way way worse at. My current wireless DeathAdder has worse liftoff than my WMOs, even if it's a better mice in every other regard.
He reportedly doesn't have a house, so imagine this moron's cluttered, shitty apartment. A whole second bedroom and living room with towers of game husks just to for Ganker upboats. I think he might be a boomer, too, he talked about how he needs to take a PC in.
yeah probably. i dont know what kind of mental illness spurs somebody to hoard unopened games and post pictures of them with a weird tagline greeting hundreds of times, but it can't be good. i'm picturing a skinnyfat 5'9" 46 year old with jeans, a stained pale brown t shirt, a worn baseball cap and thick glasses who has way too much time on his hands. probably works a mediocre middle management job where he can make just enough money to pay bills and spend the rest on lavish, overpriced toys that fill a dark void in his life.
Here and there. Some free or bought online, some pirated online, some from original discs with cracks, some from old backups that I sold the original, some from friends. Generally keep my older games archived on my NAS.
>cant get Oni working even with the fricking anniversary patch, also dishonored gives a dx error.
Hmm. Can't really say much, didn't have any problems myself. Dishonored is a DX9 game, the 7950 GT should have everything it needs.
What you can try is different drivers and make sure you have latest DirectX, PhysX and all the redistributables (redists). Check if you have maybe the installers in the game folder even, usually Unreal Engine games did.
nice setup solid choice for parts, im planning on getting an e8500 or e8600, as they seem to be the best dual core. surprisingly the e5400 performs well, i did swap it out for a Q9450 but theres actually no benefit for games or emulators, i think i actually lost few fps.
as for dishonored i expected the game to at least start as its dx9, its a fitgirl repack so shud be ok, all my drivers r as up to date as possible, nvidia,physx,dx,vcredist, etc
maybe the card is missing some features needed, like max payne 3 which runs, but has black bloches all over the screen.
the 7950gt performs a lot better than i expected, it even runs some recently released games, tho nothing too graphically demanding, ive thought about getting an 8800gts but then i lose win98 compatibility, the tweaked nvidia drivers say it supports the 8800 as well as the quadro 5600, tho i need to confirm it before i pick one up.
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Also for Oni, make sure you have http://mods.oni2.net/node/233
Even though you have AE and that should be included with it, it might be broken or didn't get installed for some reason? Just copy the file with the .dll files into the games folder, replacing binkw32.dll too (rename old one to binkw32.dll.bak to keep the original just in case). Don't even have to run it from the .bat, normal Oni.exe should still work.
i havent given up on Oni yet, ill try this hopefully i can get it working. thanks
>im planning on getting an e8500 or e8600, as they seem to be the best dual core. surprisingly the e5400 performs well, i did swap it out for a Q9450 but theres actually no benefit for games or emulators, i think i actually lost few fps.
Yeah, single core matters more for that era and older, two fast cores will do better than four slower ones for sure. You could even push a E8500/E8600 higher than mine but I don't want to risk stability and just frustrate myself when a game crashes, it does a good enough job right now. Plus it's already quite a heater.
>as for dishonored i expected the game to at least start as its dx9, its a fitgirl repack so shud be ok, all my drivers r as up to date as possible, nvidia,physx,dx,vcredist, etc
What exactly happens? What's the DX error about?
>the 7950gt performs a lot better than i expected, it even runs some recently released games, tho nothing too graphically demanding, ive thought about getting an 8800gts but then i lose win98 compatibility, the tweaked nvidia drivers say it supports the 8800 as well as the quadro 5600, tho i need to confirm it before i pick one up.
Would be interesting to know if 8800 works under 98, haven't tested myself, only used a 7800 GS with AGP under 98 as far as Nvidia GPUs go and even when I had to manually install or use modded drivers for it to work.
>i havent given up on Oni yet, ill try this hopefully i can get it working. thanks
Good luck, I'm not even using Anniversary Edition, just the normal install + that patch I linked and didn't have any problems.
don't forget the Q8400S and Q9505S if you plan on running games on the newer end and want quad core with 65W TDP boards
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah I've thought about QX9770, that should clock the same and get similar if not identical single-core speeds, don't really want to get into 2009 territory though, then might as well upgrade the GPUs also.
Edtv LCDs were already better than crts
Forget about trying to compare a modern high nit qled or a qd oled to that trash
All you need for /vr/ is at least a mediocre CRT, simple as.
What do you mean does he play them? It's like a library, you get to it eventually or you don't. Maybe you'd go for some Diablo 2 Act 5 on a rainy day, or Myth 2 campaign on a winter's night five years from now or never. Who cares?
>cant get Oni working even with the fricking anniversary patch, also dishonored gives a dx error.
Hmm. Can't really say much, didn't have any problems myself. Dishonored is a DX9 game, the 7950 GT should have everything it needs.
What you can try is different drivers and make sure you have latest DirectX, PhysX and all the redistributables (redists). Check if you have maybe the installers in the game folder even, usually Unreal Engine games did.
Also for Oni, make sure you have http://mods.oni2.net/node/233
Even though you have AE and that should be included with it, it might be broken or didn't get installed for some reason? Just copy the file with the .dll files into the games folder, replacing binkw32.dll too (rename old one to binkw32.dll.bak to keep the original just in case). Don't even have to run it from the .bat, normal Oni.exe should still work.
Is it though? ... is it? Maybe if you kept the same Win98 box into the 2000s, but why wouldn't you have kept the same monitor? The topic was in relation to Win9x games. It'd be more believable on a WinXP/P4 box.
Motion, latency benefits apply to all CRTs. With many older games being by default hard coded at 60 or 70 Hz and only support low resolutions, you almost need a CRT for a good experience.
Just very decent period correct mice that also support overclocking, I've used Intellimouse almost universally, both back in the day and for old(er) builds now.
First is a generic rackmouse case from the 90's that's technically on its side with glued on rubber feet and without rails.
Second is Thermaltake Soprano DX from 2007.
>also did you have either those monitors from back in the day or did you pick them up more recently?
Almost all CRTs from back in the day are dead and gone but I've continuously picked up more over the years. Some are at my parents place still, like the first setup, a couple are here that I picked up for free after moving since I couldn't take the old ones with me, like the second setup.
You don’t. Stop force feeding your CRT shit down everyone’s throats and stay in your containment threads. Talk about the games and not your shitty screen for a change.
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I sure hope you're just bullshiting for fun.
Motion, latency benefits apply to all CRTs. With many older games being by default hard coded at 60 or 70 Hz and only support low resolutions, you almost need a CRT for a good experience.
>you _ALMOST_ need a CRT
But playing 480p 70Hz games on a 768p 60Hz panel isn't prefeble. Anon (
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) is objectively incorrect.
Nobody is saying you can't play on a panel though, just like with consoles.
You don’t. Stop force feeding your CRT shit down everyone’s throats and stay in your containment threads. Talk about the games and not your shitty screen for a change.
>makes up dumb argument >deletes post when btfo >calls others out instead
classic
Also these lists are pretty good:
https://vsrecommendedgames.fandom.com/wiki/PC/MS-DOS
https://vsrecommendedgames.fandom.com/wiki/PC/Early_Windows
https://vsrecommendedgames.fandom.com/wiki/PC/Windows_95
https://vsrecommendedgames.fandom.com/wiki/PC/Windows_98
>What are some games on older computers that are fun and not available on GOG or steam?
Man of War II: Chains of Command
I'm most likely alone in still playing this. I'm currently working my way through the second campaign a second time. It's quite janky and dated. And it was probably made more for multiplayer, since the AI of allied ships can be really frustrating. But despite that it's a surprisingly fun Age of Sail simulator/RTT game, especially considering how forgotten it is today. Plus there's a lot of custom scenarios and a level editor.
>Vangers
My homie! Do you know the no-CD shortcut? If you do please tell me I've been looking for ages, I got a installed folder but can't play it because no disc, I know there's a option like /€$$£ that you can add in the end of the shortcut to make it launch without a CD.
Thanks. That's pretty cool and good to know but for old period correct hardware I'd prefer the original version with patches from the time.
If anyone remembers the no-CD shortcut, would be nice.
I doubt I'm ever even going to play this but I'm interested in this too for the sake of archival if nothing else. This is not just some schoolyard rumor right? It seems that knowing russian would help with searching.
>Vangers
My homie! Do you know the no-CD shortcut? If you do please tell me I've been looking for ages, I got a installed folder but can't play it because no disc, I know there's a option like /€$$£ that you can add in the end of the shortcut to make it launch without a CD.
Sorry, I don't have a crack. I use daemon tools 3.17 and a bin/cue, ripped from my CD. And it's russian version, so it could have a different protection.
everytime I mention megaman legends on PC no one believes that it was on PC. Even when I went to EB games (it was like gamestop but smaller) I asked the sales clerk where I could find megaman legends for pc and he looked at me and said that it wasnt for PC. He must have felt like a stupid idiot when I went up to the counter with a big box version of the game.
>Even when I went to EB games (it was like gamestop but smaller) I asked the sales clerk where I could find megaman legends for pc and he looked at me and said that it wasnt for PC. He must have felt like a stupid idiot when I went up to the counter with a big box version of the game.
Lmao
Since people are arguing about CRTs iit already: What's a good CRT shader for when I'm feeling too lazy to hook up my old CRT monitor? Or is it unnecessary since monitors back then were pretty sharp?
Just bilinear filter or don't do anything. It will look bad anyways to be honest.
>It will look bad anyways to be honest.
Unless you integer scale at least, then it's good enough.
Some games you can of course just run at native resolutions.
>unnecessary since monitors back then were pretty sharp
pretty much this if you're talking about PC games. the reasons to use CRTs for PC games are motion clarity, actual multisync (weird refresh rates like 70 Hz just work without issue) and high refresh rates if you want them
multisync just means it does more than standard VGA resolutions and frequencies, a marketing term so people know the crt you manufacture and sell isn't as limited as the original standard was
it's not the term for "it doesn't look shit scaling" even though many people seem to use it for it
yes, but i assumed when i specified *actual* multisync it was covered, because LCDs that are "multisync" might accept 70 Hz but not display it as such, just like they upscale horribly
my 1024x768 lcd monitor fujitsu(Scaleoview C15-2) scales that quite well, its blurry-ish yes, but doesn't look half bad, nowhere as bad as my old thinkpad did that pixelated anything non-native resolutions.
>multisync
Think our definitions differ, but to be fair they got loose with the branding and term back in the day, too. When I think multisync, I think of the ability to switch between 15khz and 31khz, which allows for 240p with CRT TV-like scanlines with RGB clarity. With non (most) multisync monitors 240 graphics get upscaled to 480 and are given more of an integer scaled look with far finer scanlines.
yeah that's true. im going off the 1995+ definition, ie when nearly every segmentation of monitor had "sync" in the marketing name. accusync, multisync, syncmaster, etc
>When I think multisync, I think of the ability to switch between 15khz and 31khz
That was MultiScan, like Amiga monitors, i.e. Microvitec 1438 (technically it was MultiSync too since it did more than just 640x480, like 800x600).
http://amr.abime.net/review_52164
>which allows for 240p with CRT TV-like scanlines with RGB clarity.
You can do 240p on a 31kHz monitor too, just at 120Hz. Which isn't good for /vr/ though, unless you use BFI, too sharp too.
You can do RGB on a 15kHz TV to get "RGB clarity", specially older 15kHz computer monitors that had sharper tubes.
The "benefit" (the real benefit was having one monitor for both 15kHz and 31kHz for computers that output both over the same connector) was just much finer pitch / higher TVL, good for desktop usage, for games even too sharp when you scaled a 240p game up to 14 inches.
>With non (most) multisync monitors 240 graphics get upscaled to 480 and are given more of an integer scaled look with far finer scanlines.
The VGA adapter does line-doubling, not the CRT.
For sure, I recapped all my older consoles already. Wish people made cap kits for old PC stuff. Found it hard to figure out what was the right caps to get
Yeah, I agree completely with that idea. Someone with enough time and effort could probably make a database of what caps go with what, maybe even selling the correct caps for tech. I should logically recap my stuff but they all look good so I'm holding off on it for now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I recap almost everything if only for the peace of mind. Least everything from 2000 and back. About to do my PS2 and xbox
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd say 2004. 2000-2004 had the worst caps.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They all go bad eventually
2 years ago
Anonymous
Eventually everything does, sure, but I also still have radios with their original '50's caps that are fine. Really depends on the cap, usage and storage conditions.
Darn, this looks rad.
I was never into racing something without wheels, but now my friend kinda dragged me into WipEout and it broke me... F-Zero, AeroGauge, RedOut are already in my list, and now this as well...
I have mixed feelings about it. I still cannot get over the fact that I'm not driving a hot-rod or a muscle car...
>There's winevdm if you're on Windows
I think winevdm just does pre win95 windows versions though, but I may be wrong. For win95 and later you can use Windows own compatibility mode.
Yep, works fine on Windows 10. Do people have problems with LithTech engine games? All play brilliantly for me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
On Windows 10? please PLEASE tell me what settings you use I've tried what seems like them all and nothing has worked
2 years ago
Anonymous
Here https://www.myabandonware.com/game/global-operations-dtj#download
Just install original, don't patch it, just drop the crack (crack folder on ISO file) in and play.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I was scared because the crack is full of worms and trojans
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/80ca875dbe02a36e2e110555a2b04114de29cbc37d413d5ad29bf3e8f35caf7e
2 years ago
Anonymous
those are false positives, it's 100% safe
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't think there exists a crack that doesn't tick off some virus alarms. Not saying that you should or could trust them to not mine buttcoins on your machine, but it's just the way they are.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Viruses from that time are more likely to delete your folders and replace your desktop background while disabling your mouse than to mine buttcoins.
Anyways cracks will always throw up false positives.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Man, it's a fricking crack. It was made to frick things up in the code.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>4 detections out of 67 >all 4 are from antiviruses nobody's ever heard of
2 years ago
Anonymous
here
Here https://www.myabandonware.com/game/global-operations-dtj#download
Just install original, don't patch it, just drop the crack (crack folder on ISO file) in and play.
Not all games have those. Some also jsut refuse to work properly on some machines. Sometimes, the only real exit is to try and configure a VM... and if it won't work - get to building a retro PC. One that would run at least Win XP.
Not all games have those. Some also jsut refuse to work properly on some machines. Sometimes, the only real exit is to try and configure a VM... and if it won't work - get to building a retro PC. One that would run at least Win XP.
These days there's always 100% a way to run any PC games on your modern hardware, be it VM, emulator, patches, recompiles, etc, the difference is that the experience might not be good.
I suggest you actually read what dgvoodoo2 does. Here let me help you:
>dgVoodoo2 is a set of implementation of old graphics API's for Windows 7 and later versions >The following graphics API libraries are implemented:
>Glide 2.11, Glide 2.45, Glide 3.1 and Glide 3.1 Napalm
>DirectX 1-7 (all versions of DirectDraw and Direct3D up to version 7)
>Direct3D 8.1
>Direct3D 9
>but for other APIs there's simply better solutions
I wish to know more since dgvoodoo is a pretty plug and play solution.
2 years ago
Anonymous
WineD3D is literally drag and drop and done, much more transparent and meanwhile has less overhead / better performance, supports everything from draw to DX11.
dgVoodoo2 is great but still mostly a solution for Glide, even for games that support OGL or D3D but have stronger Glide implementation or more effects with Glide.
There could be niche cases where you'd want to use dgVoodoo2 for D3D though, like forcing specific resolutions and refresh rate using dgVoodoo2's configurator.
I've thrown out too much old junk to even really care anymore. Thinking about how I threw out that old ps/2 with its crt and accidentally formatted 10 gigs of my childhood and just went "whoops" and carried on with it without realizing that I could have pretty easily salvaged it all still makes me a bit annoyed but ultimately it's just the memories that matter. As much as I'd want to, I just can't keep living in the past. Clinging to it too hard is not going to make me happier.
>Need for speed III, Need for speed high stakes
Is there really any point installing both on the same rig? High Stakes is pretty much the same game with a few more maps, new modes, damage models, and a 3D-modeled wienerpit for each car. The only feature I can remember Hot Pursuit having over HS was the interactive music during races.
III has much better music and better physics (lmao go fast on durham road, kindiak park or route adonf and you'll smash your suspension to shit) but the new tracks in high stakes are well designed. If you were to only install one of the two games, install III.
Perhaps next time consider running cmd, dir > list.txt your Desktop and post the results in text.
No one really wants to browse through your desktop, dude.
Was the initial idea too but I was too lazy to sort out the non-/vr/ titles. Just enjoy the icons as a bonus.
Do you actually play all those games
A lot of those I've finished years ago but still sometimes get around to them or like to have the option to play them.
A few I've never touched but are there since I want to get to them eventually or already am at them. Some I only play multiplayer with friends on occasion, etc.
What do you mean does he play them? It's like a library, you get to it eventually or you don't. Maybe you'd go for some Diablo 2 Act 5 on a rainy day, or Myth 2 campaign on a winter's night five years from now or never. Who cares?
what the frick. this thing must be worth a fortune now
2 years ago
Anonymous
I paid 15€ on a flea-market for mine so I don't know what the real going price is, check eBay sold listing I guess to not overpay.
PUT YOUR GAMES (shortcuts) IN A FOLDER YOU LAZY SHITS
Why? It's a dedicated gaming machine, why add a extra step every time I want to launch a game?
2 years ago
Anonymous
very good specs for its age and size
2 years ago
Anonymous
True, faster than many Atom netbooks that came years later.
2 years ago
Anonymous
this thing has to be at least 14 years old and can play UT2K4, thats pretty fricking impressive for a pocket PC
2 years ago
Anonymous
definitely fits its pricing
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's from 2006 and yeah, it can play UT2K4, I tested that too, even though with pretty low settings. Older games like the pictured above UT99 though are perfectly fine.
You could actually replace the CPU with a dual core model if you had a donor and proper reballing station, I've seen them on sale but they are quite rare.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>i will never play Ragnarok Online on this thing in 2006 at a netcafe while chainsmoking cigarettes
why live
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's a sad reality.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>for a pocket PC
The technical term is UMPC, PocketPC was something else (more like a common PDA). Not to be rude, just saying.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I paid 15€ on a flea-market for mine so I don't know what the real going price is, check eBay sold listing I guess to not overpay.
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Why? It's a dedicated gaming machine, why add a extra step every time I want to launch a game?
holy frick, original price was $1799.99
https://web.archive.org/web/20070312050616/http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=VGNUX280P&Dept=computers&CategoryName=cpu_VAIONotebookComputers_UX_Series
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, they were pretty niche. Also adjusted for inflation, today the price would be closer to 2600 USD.
PUT YOUR GAMES (shortcuts) IN A FOLDER YOU LAZY SHITS
I've actually made more shortcuts since I have way more games on that machine than I have shortcuts for, since I want to play test before putting a shortcut on the desktop to be sure it works.
You don’t. Stop force feeding your CRT shit down everyone’s throats and stay in your containment threads. Talk about the games and not your shitty screen for a change.
Sometimes you might actually need a non-widescreen CRT or LCD from the time period the game came out. There aren't many people out there that have experience with this type of thing across any of the games in existence, but I did go through a weird problem with Touhou 6. There are other people that have said it doesn't work in modern Windows due to it overclocking to 500+ FPS in fullscreen, but when I changed back to the early-2000's LCD that I still use, the game worked fine. Keep this in mind.
Always loved the Compaq startup sound inside the laptop model, not sure it it was intentional but it always sounded like a little chime right when the Compaq logo appeared. Wish I could find the sound online.
doo, do, do
I used to have a lot of software but I didn't use most of it but it was cool to have it installed
mostly just games, netscape and then firefox, winamp, flash, irfanview, winrar, vlc, bearshare, emule, soulseek, bittorrent / vuze that's probably 99% of the software I used on a daily basis
GoldWave is with me since hell I know which moment. Of course, I've moved on to more powerful audio editors, but GoldWave is still my go-to program when I need to record an audio input or make some very basic edits, like couple cuts and fade-ins/fade-outs.
FSCapture is my favorite program to grab screenshots, I've found it years ago on a CD that came with some gaming magazine, back when those were still revelant anyhow.
CursorFX - I still use it with my favorite cursor skin. Once again, found it on some CD with magazine. Back then the program was called CursorXP though.
Then, you know, your standart cut: Firefox, Daemon Tools, Office, Winamp... Nothing special, I guess.
My newest system is full of somewhat specialized soft though.
Machwarrior series.
Yes, and Heavy Gear.
Frick I remember this when I was a kid. I loved it
MW3 totally rocks. It so flawlessly transfered the feeling of piloting a heavy walker to the player, I just couldn't play MW4 after 3.
The steps, the inertia, the sounds... MW3 is must-have for every Battletech fan.
Space Cadet
NOLF
Theres a revival project that allows you to play the series on newer OS in higher resolutions
?t=98
I hate to be that guy but NOLF games are not that good. People say it's funny, fell flat for me and the gameplay is just dreadful. Feels like it's just nostalgia.
The Intellimouse 1.1, Wheel Mouse Optical, and Explorer 3.0 are all really good mice with performance on the level of modern gaming mice (if overclocked from the default 125hz) and period correct as that guy mentioned. They're also not unobtainium, yet.
>good mice with performance on the level of modern gaming mice (if overclocked from the default 125hz)
Yes and no. They are really good nice and overclock well, but there has been a lot of progress when it comes to sensors over the past 20 years also, so I wouldn't say that they are on the same level as good nice today, they are just good mice in general though.
Also don't fall for the 8000Hz meme Reddit spams about these mice, the sensor starts rounding up over 1000Hz, not that you'd ever actually need over 1000/2000, ever.
Yeah, that was hyperbole I guess, but at 1000hz it's accurate enough where the hardware is hardly a limiting factor for any human competitive gamer. It tracks really well and with less jitter than some modern, allegedly good mice I've used. Negative acceleration and 400dpi aside, it still nails certain aspects like liftoff distance which some modern mice are way way worse at. My current wireless DeathAdder has worse liftoff than my WMOs, even if it's a better mice in every other regard.
Sexy Beach 2. Sexy Beach 3. Des Blood 4.
i hope your house burns down you disgusting materialist attention prostitute. youre like babbages gramps with gay handwriting
>babbages gramps
What ever happened to that guy? Did he finally die of butthurt after being trolled to death?
no idea but im glad hes gone. he would shit up every thread with pseud anecdotes and tell you about his wife. total homosexual
He bought a marble table to take pictures of his shit on in his rape dungeon
He reportedly doesn't have a house, so imagine this moron's cluttered, shitty apartment. A whole second bedroom and living room with towers of game husks just to for Ganker upboats. I think he might be a boomer, too, he talked about how he needs to take a PC in.
yeah probably. i dont know what kind of mental illness spurs somebody to hoard unopened games and post pictures of them with a weird tagline greeting hundreds of times, but it can't be good. i'm picturing a skinnyfat 5'9" 46 year old with jeans, a stained pale brown t shirt, a worn baseball cap and thick glasses who has way too much time on his hands. probably works a mediocre middle management job where he can make just enough money to pay bills and spend the rest on lavish, overpriced toys that fill a dark void in his life.
Sorry, I posted the wrong image. I tried to correct the mistake but it says I cannot delete a post that old. Here's the correct image.
Nobody fricking cares you sad bastard. Your pseudo-avatarhomosexualry is pathetic.
You can go thru these if you need ideas, many work on older 9x shitboxes.
Lot of good picks there, did you buy them all?
Here and there. Some free or bought online, some pirated online, some from original discs with cracks, some from old backups that I sold the original, some from friends. Generally keep my older games archived on my NAS.
nice! but wut gpu u using? ive got an e5400 @3.2ghz, 4gb ddr2, nvidia 7950gt 512mb, SBLive, win7
got a lot of the same games. cant get Oni working even with the fricking anniversary patch, also dishonored gives a dx error.
>nice! but wut gpu u using?
Here's the full specs. The Quadro FX 5600 is just a 8800 GTX on steroids.
>ive got an e5400 @3.2ghz, 4gb ddr2, nvidia 7950gt 512mb, SBLive, win7
That's pretty nice.
>got a lot of the same games.
Good taste.
>cant get Oni working even with the fricking anniversary patch, also dishonored gives a dx error.
Hmm. Can't really say much, didn't have any problems myself. Dishonored is a DX9 game, the 7950 GT should have everything it needs.
What you can try is different drivers and make sure you have latest DirectX, PhysX and all the redistributables (redists). Check if you have maybe the installers in the game folder even, usually Unreal Engine games did.
nice setup solid choice for parts, im planning on getting an e8500 or e8600, as they seem to be the best dual core. surprisingly the e5400 performs well, i did swap it out for a Q9450 but theres actually no benefit for games or emulators, i think i actually lost few fps.
as for dishonored i expected the game to at least start as its dx9, its a fitgirl repack so shud be ok, all my drivers r as up to date as possible, nvidia,physx,dx,vcredist, etc
maybe the card is missing some features needed, like max payne 3 which runs, but has black bloches all over the screen.
the 7950gt performs a lot better than i expected, it even runs some recently released games, tho nothing too graphically demanding, ive thought about getting an 8800gts but then i lose win98 compatibility, the tweaked nvidia drivers say it supports the 8800 as well as the quadro 5600, tho i need to confirm it before i pick one up.
i havent given up on Oni yet, ill try this hopefully i can get it working. thanks
>nice setup solid choice for parts
Thanks.
>im planning on getting an e8500 or e8600, as they seem to be the best dual core. surprisingly the e5400 performs well, i did swap it out for a Q9450 but theres actually no benefit for games or emulators, i think i actually lost few fps.
Yeah, single core matters more for that era and older, two fast cores will do better than four slower ones for sure. You could even push a E8500/E8600 higher than mine but I don't want to risk stability and just frustrate myself when a game crashes, it does a good enough job right now. Plus it's already quite a heater.
>as for dishonored i expected the game to at least start as its dx9, its a fitgirl repack so shud be ok, all my drivers r as up to date as possible, nvidia,physx,dx,vcredist, etc
What exactly happens? What's the DX error about?
>the 7950gt performs a lot better than i expected, it even runs some recently released games, tho nothing too graphically demanding, ive thought about getting an 8800gts but then i lose win98 compatibility, the tweaked nvidia drivers say it supports the 8800 as well as the quadro 5600, tho i need to confirm it before i pick one up.
Would be interesting to know if 8800 works under 98, haven't tested myself, only used a 7800 GS with AGP under 98 as far as Nvidia GPUs go and even when I had to manually install or use modded drivers for it to work.
>i havent given up on Oni yet, ill try this hopefully i can get it working. thanks
Good luck, I'm not even using Anniversary Edition, just the normal install + that patch I linked and didn't have any problems.
don't forget the Q8400S and Q9505S if you plan on running games on the newer end and want quad core with 65W TDP boards
Yeah I've thought about QX9770, that should clock the same and get similar if not identical single-core speeds, don't really want to get into 2009 territory though, then might as well upgrade the GPUs also.
All you need for /vr/ is at least a mediocre CRT, simple as.
Do you actually play all those games
What do you mean does he play them? It's like a library, you get to it eventually or you don't. Maybe you'd go for some Diablo 2 Act 5 on a rainy day, or Myth 2 campaign on a winter's night five years from now or never. Who cares?
Also for Oni, make sure you have http://mods.oni2.net/node/233
Even though you have AE and that should be included with it, it might be broken or didn't get installed for some reason? Just copy the file with the .dll files into the games folder, replacing binkw32.dll too (rename old one to binkw32.dll.bak to keep the original just in case). Don't even have to run it from the .bat, normal Oni.exe should still work.
so this is what your desktop looks like when it's not covered under a mess of windows
Where's the CRT?
the LCD is period correct
Is it though? ... is it? Maybe if you kept the same Win98 box into the 2000s, but why wouldn't you have kept the same monitor? The topic was in relation to Win9x games. It'd be more believable on a WinXP/P4 box.
>Is it though? ... is it?
It is. There's barely a year difference between those two pieces of hardware concerning their release date.
>could have spend 2 minutes googling before posting
>having way too much faith in zoommanity
I sure hope you're just bullshiting for fun.
Motion, latency benefits apply to all CRTs. With many older games being by default hard coded at 60 or 70 Hz and only support low resolutions, you almost need a CRT for a good experience.
What is it with Microsoft mice that make them the go to mouse for /vr/?
Just very decent period correct mice that also support overclocking, I've used Intellimouse almost universally, both back in the day and for old(er) builds now.
Etc.
whatre those cases? those look cool as frick
also did you have either those monitors from back in the day or did you pick them up more recently?
First is a generic rackmouse case from the 90's that's technically on its side with glued on rubber feet and without rails.
Second is Thermaltake Soprano DX from 2007.
>also did you have either those monitors from back in the day or did you pick them up more recently?
Almost all CRTs from back in the day are dead and gone but I've continuously picked up more over the years. Some are at my parents place still, like the first setup, a couple are here that I picked up for free after moving since I couldn't take the old ones with me, like the second setup.
>RGB homosexualry
That's a CCFL backlight, anon.
>backlight
BLACKlight*
You don’t. Stop force feeding your CRT shit down everyone’s throats and stay in your containment threads. Talk about the games and not your shitty screen for a change.
>You don’t.
Never said you actually do.
See:
>you _ALMOST_ need a CRT
But playing 480p 70Hz games on a 768p 60Hz panel isn't prefeble. Anon (
) is objectively incorrect.
Nobody is saying you can't play on a panel though, just like with consoles.
>stay in your containment threads.
Great advice for this homosexual
Edtv LCDs were already better than crts
Forget about trying to compare a modern high nit qled or a qd oled to that trash
>With many older games being by default hard coded at 60 or 70 Hz
wut?
A lot of DOS games run at a specific hard coded refresh rate.
comfiest photo i have seen today
>makes up dumb argument
>deletes post when btfo
>calls others out instead
classic
Also these lists are pretty good:
https://vsrecommendedgames.fandom.com/wiki/PC/MS-DOS
https://vsrecommendedgames.fandom.com/wiki/PC/Early_Windows
https://vsrecommendedgames.fandom.com/wiki/PC/Windows_95
https://vsrecommendedgames.fandom.com/wiki/PC/Windows_98
Just ignore them.
>What are some games on older computers that are fun and not available on GOG or steam?
Man of War II: Chains of Command
I'm most likely alone in still playing this. I'm currently working my way through the second campaign a second time. It's quite janky and dated. And it was probably made more for multiplayer, since the AI of allied ships can be really frustrating. But despite that it's a surprisingly fun Age of Sail simulator/RTT game, especially considering how forgotten it is today. Plus there's a lot of custom scenarios and a level editor.
Slave Zero and Shogo: Mobile Armor Division if you like action FPS mech shooters.
I bet you already have both Diablo games?
Also Mechwarrior 2 and 3 if you're into mech simulations
Basically mandatory for any Win98 machine
>Mechwarrior 2
also chex quest
Shogo is on GOG
Interstate 76
If you're not using a CRT at least integer scale things. 480 bilinear smeared looks like fricking trash.
Almost all the games mentioned here are in GOG thought
Thread subject is "Must have WIndows 98 games". The post itself seems more like a secondary question.
Most of these.
What excellent taste.
>Vangers
My homie! Do you know the no-CD shortcut? If you do please tell me I've been looking for ages, I got a installed folder but can't play it because no disc, I know there's a option like /€$$£ that you can add in the end of the shortcut to make it launch without a CD.
Not that anon, but apparently the engine is up on github(?). You can probably slap the assets on this.
https://github.com/KranX/Vangers
Forgot the link.
Thanks. That's pretty cool and good to know but for old period correct hardware I'd prefer the original version with patches from the time.
If anyone remembers the no-CD shortcut, would be nice.
I doubt I'm ever even going to play this but I'm interested in this too for the sake of archival if nothing else. This is not just some schoolyard rumor right? It seems that knowing russian would help with searching.
I found a no-cd patch on a russian site but no info about shortcut
Yeah cracks do exist. There's an old razor release too.
Do you have a crack for Vangers please? Always wanted to try it but GOG version does not play on XP or 98
Sorry, I don't have a crack. I use daemon tools 3.17 and a bin/cue, ripped from my CD. And it's russian version, so it could have a different protection.
Shame but thanks for answering
everytime I mention megaman legends on PC no one believes that it was on PC. Even when I went to EB games (it was like gamestop but smaller) I asked the sales clerk where I could find megaman legends for pc and he looked at me and said that it wasnt for PC. He must have felt like a stupid idiot when I went up to the counter with a big box version of the game.
>Even when I went to EB games (it was like gamestop but smaller) I asked the sales clerk where I could find megaman legends for pc and he looked at me and said that it wasnt for PC. He must have felt like a stupid idiot when I went up to the counter with a big box version of the game.
Lmao
>moron working at game store
>knows nothing about the actual games
a tale as old as time
Since people are arguing about CRTs iit already: What's a good CRT shader for when I'm feeling too lazy to hook up my old CRT monitor? Or is it unnecessary since monitors back then were pretty sharp?
Just bilinear filter or don't do anything. It will look bad anyways to be honest.
>It will look bad anyways to be honest.
Unless you integer scale at least, then it's good enough.
Some games you can of course just run at native resolutions.
>unnecessary since monitors back then were pretty sharp
pretty much this if you're talking about PC games. the reasons to use CRTs for PC games are motion clarity, actual multisync (weird refresh rates like 70 Hz just work without issue) and high refresh rates if you want them
try scaling 640x480 on a 1024x768 LCD though
it looks pretty bad
well yeah, that's covered in "actual multisync". guess i should have specified.
multisync just means it does more than standard VGA resolutions and frequencies, a marketing term so people know the crt you manufacture and sell isn't as limited as the original standard was
it's not the term for "it doesn't look shit scaling" even though many people seem to use it for it
yes, but i assumed when i specified *actual* multisync it was covered, because LCDs that are "multisync" might accept 70 Hz but not display it as such, just like they upscale horribly
my 1024x768 lcd monitor fujitsu(Scaleoview C15-2) scales that quite well, its blurry-ish yes, but doesn't look half bad, nowhere as bad as my old thinkpad did that pixelated anything non-native resolutions.
>multisync
Think our definitions differ, but to be fair they got loose with the branding and term back in the day, too. When I think multisync, I think of the ability to switch between 15khz and 31khz, which allows for 240p with CRT TV-like scanlines with RGB clarity. With non (most) multisync monitors 240 graphics get upscaled to 480 and are given more of an integer scaled look with far finer scanlines.
yeah that's true. im going off the 1995+ definition, ie when nearly every segmentation of monitor had "sync" in the marketing name. accusync, multisync, syncmaster, etc
>When I think multisync, I think of the ability to switch between 15khz and 31khz
That was MultiScan, like Amiga monitors, i.e. Microvitec 1438 (technically it was MultiSync too since it did more than just 640x480, like 800x600).
http://amr.abime.net/review_52164
>which allows for 240p with CRT TV-like scanlines with RGB clarity.
You can do 240p on a 31kHz monitor too, just at 120Hz. Which isn't good for /vr/ though, unless you use BFI, too sharp too.
You can do RGB on a 15kHz TV to get "RGB clarity", specially older 15kHz computer monitors that had sharper tubes.
The "benefit" (the real benefit was having one monitor for both 15kHz and 31kHz for computers that output both over the same connector) was just much finer pitch / higher TVL, good for desktop usage, for games even too sharp when you scaled a 240p game up to 14 inches.
>With non (most) multisync monitors 240 graphics get upscaled to 480 and are given more of an integer scaled look with far finer scanlines.
The VGA adapter does line-doubling, not the CRT.
Look up crt-royale for ReShade. Its decent.
CRT Geom Deluxe. Just tone down the phosphor decay.
If they're not there, they're probably on archive.org
Just put together a pentium 4/GeForce 4600 powered 98 machine. What are some games that will really show off my Vortex 2 sound card
>pentium 4
Check to see if your mobo was made during the capacitor plague.
Right after but I keep an eye on it none the less. My GeForce 4 needs new caps, waiting for them to come in before I put everything in a case
Wishing you luck and success with all of that, Anon. I've been doing what I can to make sure people with older builds know about the problem.
For sure, I recapped all my older consoles already. Wish people made cap kits for old PC stuff. Found it hard to figure out what was the right caps to get
Yeah, I agree completely with that idea. Someone with enough time and effort could probably make a database of what caps go with what, maybe even selling the correct caps for tech. I should logically recap my stuff but they all look good so I'm holding off on it for now.
I recap almost everything if only for the peace of mind. Least everything from 2000 and back. About to do my PS2 and xbox
I'd say 2004. 2000-2004 had the worst caps.
They all go bad eventually
Eventually everything does, sure, but I also still have radios with their original '50's caps that are fine. Really depends on the cap, usage and storage conditions.
Just waiting for a few little odds and ends to come in before I put my win98 machine in a case.
What kind of w98 machine's CPU needs a cooler like that?
must be using a modern board and cpu, it has sata ports
>modern
Has a conventional PCI, floppy header and only two SATA ports, probably 12-17 years old. Slightly more modern than you'd expect for Win98.
Yes, I have a semperon-based PC in the garage I found in a bin with sata ports. It aligns better with XP, but the hardware can officially support 98.
Slipstream 5000. This shit was so fricking kino
Darn, this looks rad.
I was never into racing something without wheels, but now my friend kinda dragged me into WipEout and it broke me... F-Zero, AeroGauge, RedOut are already in my list, and now this as well...
I have mixed feelings about it. I still cannot get over the fact that I'm not driving a hot-rod or a muscle car...
How do you play win98/winXP games when you don't have an older computer? I tried virtual machines but the games shat themselves
Wine has worked pretty well with the win98 games I've tried so far.
There's winevdm if you're on Windows:
https://github.com/otya128/winevdm
>There's winevdm if you're on Windows
I think winevdm just does pre win95 windows versions though, but I may be wrong. For win95 and later you can use Windows own compatibility mode.
that never works
Works on my machine.
You ever tried to play Global Operations?
Yep, works fine on Windows 10. Do people have problems with LithTech engine games? All play brilliantly for me.
On Windows 10? please PLEASE tell me what settings you use I've tried what seems like them all and nothing has worked
Here https://www.myabandonware.com/game/global-operations-dtj#download
Just install original, don't patch it, just drop the crack (crack folder on ISO file) in and play.
I was scared because the crack is full of worms and trojans
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/80ca875dbe02a36e2e110555a2b04114de29cbc37d413d5ad29bf3e8f35caf7e
those are false positives, it's 100% safe
I don't think there exists a crack that doesn't tick off some virus alarms. Not saying that you should or could trust them to not mine buttcoins on your machine, but it's just the way they are.
Viruses from that time are more likely to delete your folders and replace your desktop background while disabling your mouse than to mine buttcoins.
Anyways cracks will always throw up false positives.
Man, it's a fricking crack. It was made to frick things up in the code.
>4 detections out of 67
>all 4 are from antiviruses nobody's ever heard of
here
THANK YOU I HAVE MISSED THIS GAME SO MUCH
Welcome anon, enjoy.
You play patched versions and open source engine implementations of them, they will run natively on your x64 computer
Not all games have those. Some also jsut refuse to work properly on some machines. Sometimes, the only real exit is to try and configure a VM... and if it won't work - get to building a retro PC. One that would run at least Win XP.
These days there's always 100% a way to run any PC games on your modern hardware, be it VM, emulator, patches, recompiles, etc, the difference is that the experience might not be good.
DGVoodoo2
Almost all Windows XP games were NOT Glide only.
I suggest you actually read what dgvoodoo2 does. Here let me help you:
>dgVoodoo2 is a set of implementation of old graphics API's for Windows 7 and later versions
>The following graphics API libraries are implemented:
>Glide 2.11, Glide 2.45, Glide 3.1 and Glide 3.1 Napalm
>DirectX 1-7 (all versions of DirectDraw and Direct3D up to version 7)
>Direct3D 8.1
>Direct3D 9
I know what it does, but for other APIs there's simply better solutions. It's only benefit is supporting Glide.
>but for other APIs there's simply better solutions
I wish to know more since dgvoodoo is a pretty plug and play solution.
WineD3D is literally drag and drop and done, much more transparent and meanwhile has less overhead / better performance, supports everything from draw to DX11.
dgVoodoo2 is great but still mostly a solution for Glide, even for games that support OGL or D3D but have stronger Glide implementation or more effects with Glide.
There could be niche cases where you'd want to use dgVoodoo2 for D3D though, like forcing specific resolutions and refresh rate using dgVoodoo2's configurator.
Riven
Giants: Citizen Kabuto
MDK2
Black & White (no shit for a while it only worked on that OS)
Frick I used to have that same computer, wish I still had it
Don't be sad. It's a very mediocre pc. Like the generic $300 home pcs we have today but 20 years old.
I guess I'm more sad about all the stuff I had on there and was too much of a dumb kid to try and salvage
I've thrown out too much old junk to even really care anymore. Thinking about how I threw out that old ps/2 with its crt and accidentally formatted 10 gigs of my childhood and just went "whoops" and carried on with it without realizing that I could have pretty easily salvaged it all still makes me a bit annoyed but ultimately it's just the memories that matter. As much as I'd want to, I just can't keep living in the past. Clinging to it too hard is not going to make me happier.
microsoft bob
Rising Lands
Need for speed III, Need for speed high stakes, Need for speed porsche.
>Need for speed III, Need for speed high stakes
Is there really any point installing both on the same rig? High Stakes is pretty much the same game with a few more maps, new modes, damage models, and a 3D-modeled wienerpit for each car. The only feature I can remember Hot Pursuit having over HS was the interactive music during races.
III has much better music and better physics (lmao go fast on durham road, kindiak park or route adonf and you'll smash your suspension to shit) but the new tracks in high stakes are well designed. If you were to only install one of the two games, install III.
>III has much better music
Agreed. IV did have some great tracks, though (Callista, for example).
Bleem?
Why single out the classics on gog
C&c
Red alert
Triberium wars
Fallout 1 and 2
Planscape torment
Thief
Duke nukem 3d
Half life
StarCraft
PC gaming essentially peaked around the windows 98- 2000 era
>Bleem?
Dang, you'd really use a old emulator over a newer backport?
Quake 2
Battle zone
Kanon
>retro flat panel
Dear fricking god why?
Authenticity. That said, I only pull mine out when I don't want to move my CRT.
You authentically downgraded. I still bought CRTs til 2005. Early 2000s flat panels were for mom-puters and office gays.
who gives a frick anon stop sperging about crts at every fricking change you get holy shit
Just admit that you wanted to post your homosexual fricking flat panel because it's like, so aesthetic and retro and photogenic, you zoomer twat.
>Must have WIndows 98 games
>ctrl+f "age of empires"
>0/0
/vr/ disappoints me.
bruh
zomash
>ctrl+f "Heroes 3"
>nada
is it true that HoMM is an eastern european/russian thing?
See
Perhaps next time consider running cmd, dir > list.txt your Desktop and post the results in text.
No one really wants to browse through your desktop, dude.
Not my desktop but I read all the games on it
Was the initial idea too but I was too lazy to sort out the non-/vr/ titles. Just enjoy the icons as a bonus.
A lot of those I've finished years ago but still sometimes get around to them or like to have the option to play them.
A few I've never touched but are there since I want to get to them eventually or already am at them. Some I only play multiplayer with friends on occasion, etc.
Basically this.
What's that Vaio device?
Sony Vaio UX 280P UMPC
what the frick. this thing must be worth a fortune now
I paid 15€ on a flea-market for mine so I don't know what the real going price is, check eBay sold listing I guess to not overpay.
Why? It's a dedicated gaming machine, why add a extra step every time I want to launch a game?
very good specs for its age and size
True, faster than many Atom netbooks that came years later.
this thing has to be at least 14 years old and can play UT2K4, thats pretty fricking impressive for a pocket PC
definitely fits its pricing
It's from 2006 and yeah, it can play UT2K4, I tested that too, even though with pretty low settings. Older games like the pictured above UT99 though are perfectly fine.
You could actually replace the CPU with a dual core model if you had a donor and proper reballing station, I've seen them on sale but they are quite rare.
>i will never play Ragnarok Online on this thing in 2006 at a netcafe while chainsmoking cigarettes
why live
It's a sad reality.
>for a pocket PC
The technical term is UMPC, PocketPC was something else (more like a common PDA). Not to be rude, just saying.
holy frick, original price was $1799.99
https://web.archive.org/web/20070312050616/http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=VGNUX280P&Dept=computers&CategoryName=cpu_VAIONotebookComputers_UX_Series
Yeah, they were pretty niche. Also adjusted for inflation, today the price would be closer to 2600 USD.
I've actually made more shortcuts since I have way more games on that machine than I have shortcuts for, since I want to play test before putting a shortcut on the desktop to be sure it works.
you get the award for smallest pc in the thread
anyone know how to fix fx5200 shitting itself past directx 7
"you get what you pay for"
it's a poo of a card
i just got it because i wanted to replace the old rage IIc and it was cheap
got it working, drivers were too new
Sometimes you might actually need a non-widescreen CRT or LCD from the time period the game came out. There aren't many people out there that have experience with this type of thing across any of the games in existence, but I did go through a weird problem with Touhou 6. There are other people that have said it doesn't work in modern Windows due to it overclocking to 500+ FPS in fullscreen, but when I changed back to the early-2000's LCD that I still use, the game worked fine. Keep this in mind.
Claw aka Captain Claw is pretty fun
Hey I remember playing this a long time ago, great game
bubsy 3d
Starcraft, Diablo 1, Unreal Tournament
I take it that G-NOME isn't worth mentioning?
Frick yeah it is
anyone knows where I can get manhunt? myabandonware removed it and archive link is too slow
use archives torrent, it's usually faster
>that are fun and not available on GOG or steam?
there's like hundreds of games like that
PUT YOUR GAMES (shortcuts) IN A FOLDER YOU LAZY SHITS
Always loved the Compaq startup sound inside the laptop model, not sure it it was intentional but it always sounded like a little chime right when the Compaq logo appeared. Wish I could find the sound online.
doo, do, do
Not necessarily Vidya related but what software did you used to have installed on your systems that you used a lot.
Photoshop 7, made sigs for friends
I used to have a lot of software but I didn't use most of it but it was cool to have it installed
mostly just games, netscape and then firefox, winamp, flash, irfanview, winrar, vlc, bearshare, emule, soulseek, bittorrent / vuze that's probably 99% of the software I used on a daily basis
GoldWave is with me since hell I know which moment. Of course, I've moved on to more powerful audio editors, but GoldWave is still my go-to program when I need to record an audio input or make some very basic edits, like couple cuts and fade-ins/fade-outs.
FSCapture is my favorite program to grab screenshots, I've found it years ago on a CD that came with some gaming magazine, back when those were still revelant anyhow.
CursorFX - I still use it with my favorite cursor skin. Once again, found it on some CD with magazine. Back then the program was called CursorXP though.
Then, you know, your standart cut: Firefox, Daemon Tools, Office, Winamp... Nothing special, I guess.
My newest system is full of somewhat specialized soft though.
Goldwave is still alive wtf. I thought audacity would have killed it already.