A similar issue to OP. You don't have the hand strength to overcome the weight of the fish and all the water between you. The magnets would just fly out of your hands. You'd have to anchor the magnets to the dock first.
The steel bar would have to be connected to the ground to support the pull of the magnets, in which case you'd be better off just using a conventional elevator, anyway.
Two separate problems with that: >the inverse square law means your magnet would need to be monstrously powerful to be useful for that purpose >assuming you had a magnet strong enough, the powder would go straight through the fish's flesh rather than magnetising their bodies
>magnets pull toward metal with a force x >metal is pulled toward magnets with a force x (newton's third law) >x-x=0 >net force is zero
Thus no movement
>metal is attracted to magnet >you push the metal away with the same force to hold onto the magnet >metal doesn't move
if you have the magnets free floating the metal can keep getting pulled to them
Please explain to me how a system with a drone holding the magnets has a different net force than that of OP.
Assume the drone is stationary, of course, such that the upwards force is equal to the gravitational force.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Assume the drone is stationary, of course
the drone would be moving
to be fair for the anon, installing a heavy duty magnet to a strong enough drone/aircraft would actually give you the ability to fly magnetic objects. It's an obvious statement though and his first statement makes little sense
What the frick does being able to lift heavy objects with a magnet have to do with the OP?
The OP implies the lift is gained from the metal plate continously accelerating toward the magnets.
In your case, a magnet holds a metal plate and the helicopters lift counteracts the gravitational force and the downwards force from the magnet
11 months ago
Anonymous
>What the frick does being able to lift heavy objects with a magnet have to do with the OP?
nothing. All I'm saying is that the anon you replied to is making a true albeit obvious statement that drones do in fact fly.
You want to remove the human from the equation and have him operate remotely the UFO shaped drone.
So it becomes the weight of the drone (with a receiver transmitter, weapon, camera, payload, etc) against the magnetic force.
But use the electromagnetic force so you can control it.
When you scale the electromagnets the drone can be the size of a maglev train. But you want a smaller one so you can have a huge electromagnetic field.
Not like maglev a short distance from the rail.
Lead cooled to close of absolute zer0 has superconducting properties that allow for such electromagnetic forces.
the metal plate gets pulled toward the magnets. The end. You'd need constant force to pull the magnets away and at that point, you're making a more complicated elevator
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Don't take the easy way out, anon.
these. Zoomer OP is a homosexual.
Half life 2, a billion other games where you can prop surf
Okay seriously though, why wouldn't this work if the magnets were strong enough?
You don't have the arm strength to keep them separated.
Now, tell me how THIS one wouldn't work.
A similar issue to OP. You don't have the hand strength to overcome the weight of the fish and all the water between you. The magnets would just fly out of your hands. You'd have to anchor the magnets to the dock first.
>attach manget to some kind of steel bar
What now?
The steel bar would have to be connected to the ground to support the pull of the magnets, in which case you'd be better off just using a conventional elevator, anyway.
Two separate problems with that:
>the inverse square law means your magnet would need to be monstrously powerful to be useful for that purpose
>assuming you had a magnet strong enough, the powder would go straight through the fish's flesh rather than magnetising their bodies
what would happen is that the magnet powder would get ripped out of the fish's body, killing them all without reeling them toward you.
>magnet powder
there's always one who falls for it
>magnets pull toward metal with a force x
>metal is pulled toward magnets with a force x (newton's third law)
>x-x=0
>net force is zero
Thus no movement
the problem is your pushing against the metal while holding the magnets
attach the magnets to a flying drone and then you can fly
????
Why do physicslets insist on saying dumb shit
>metal is attracted to magnet
>you push the metal away with the same force to hold onto the magnet
>metal doesn't move
if you have the magnets free floating the metal can keep getting pulled to them
Please explain to me how a system with a drone holding the magnets has a different net force than that of OP.
Assume the drone is stationary, of course, such that the upwards force is equal to the gravitational force.
>Assume the drone is stationary, of course
the drone would be moving
to be fair for the anon, installing a heavy duty magnet to a strong enough drone/aircraft would actually give you the ability to fly magnetic objects. It's an obvious statement though and his first statement makes little sense
we could do this easily below any helicopter or some of the larger drones
yes, drones and helicopters are in fact capable of flight.
What the frick does being able to lift heavy objects with a magnet have to do with the OP?
The OP implies the lift is gained from the metal plate continously accelerating toward the magnets.
In your case, a magnet holds a metal plate and the helicopters lift counteracts the gravitational force and the downwards force from the magnet
>What the frick does being able to lift heavy objects with a magnet have to do with the OP?
nothing. All I'm saying is that the anon you replied to is making a true albeit obvious statement that drones do in fact fly.
the drone will impose more energy than the magnet, so why not skip the magnet part and use just the drone?
>so why not skip the magnet part and use just the drone?
because its cooler and because we can
That's only if it's a closed system. The energy from your arms pulling the magnets makes it imbalanced so there's a net force.
No, because the force you pull the magnets with is equal to the gravitational force on them
The net force is zero
Weight=mg
Magfield strength: F = qv x B
magnet= uI/2π
The Magfield would be limited by the current. And gravity+ mass on top would over power the magnetic attraction
In English, doc
You want to remove the human from the equation and have him operate remotely the UFO shaped drone.
So it becomes the weight of the drone (with a receiver transmitter, weapon, camera, payload, etc) against the magnetic force.
But use the electromagnetic force so you can control it.
When you scale the electromagnets the drone can be the size of a maglev train. But you want a smaller one so you can have a huge electromagnetic field.
Not like maglev a short distance from the rail.
Lead cooled to close of absolute zer0 has superconducting properties that allow for such electromagnetic forces.
It's literally like trying to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, only replace the bootstraps with magnets and the metal plate.
gravity doesnt work like that
How does it work then, smartass?
every particle of mass mass shoots beams at you that pull instead of push
Simple, things up will be down. Planes don't count, they are creation of devils.
Breath of the Wild lets you do this if you separate your shoes and the plate with a different prop.
Mechanic is even called "magnesis".
this is literally how elevators work. Is this bait?
>Gankerermin actually discusses and is flabbergasted by troll science in 2023
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I blame all the shitskins
I'm an oldgay just wanting to discuss old memes.
the metal plate gets pulled toward the magnets. The end. You'd need constant force to pull the magnets away and at that point, you're making a more complicated elevator
Fallout 4, no magnets needed
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