Name something that did more damage to games in the long run
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Name something that did more damage to games in the long run
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The guy that invented Pong with an oscilloscope.
This, tricking people into paying for online services that don't really do anything was the greatest trick MS ever played.
>marketed the idea of cutting up expansions into bite size content that had to be paid for individually to all major publishers
>was the first company to have paid DLC on their first XBL game mechassault. 4 years before Bethesda's horse armor
>normalized paying for p2p services because they were the only console with a widespread service
>fricked over players with stingy rules like needing to pay for Live to access free services for a decade until Sony started fricking them
>cut out staple console features other platforms came with by default to resell them at exhorbant prices. E.G $100 wi-fi enabler, $30 dvd enabler, and $250 hd-dvd add on when blu ray came with the fricking PS3 for $600
>come up with game pass as a desperation tactic to get volume so they can parade around large numbers to shareholders so they get more funding and support even if they are rapidly losing money
>recently tried jacking costs up for Live once again and reverted once everyone told them to frick off. Exposing they are no different then 20 years ago
Bethesda was a symptom of Microsoft's seeds. Not a cause.
liberalism
Korean MMOs and their MTX stores.
gachas
FGO in particular
Valve making lootboxes a thing in the West
It's debatable. You could argue it was the first crack but at the time it was pretty much roundly mocked and dismissed. Far worse is when people just accepted microtransactions mobile games. Once they were accepted as par for the course in mobile titles it was only a matter of time before game devs would pay attention. Horse armour made probably very little. It wouldn't have gone on to be that influential I think. Microtransactions on the other hand made an absolute fortune, to the point where games made more in mere months what they'd normally make being sold traditionally. They started a downward spiral the medium hasn't recovered from since.
Was horse armor not the catalyst of "first paid addon" that could be slipped into a game, as opposed to expansion content? I think all mtx came from that
It's the first time content was cut out and sold to you separately on top of the price of the base game. And now cars have features withheld from you unless you pay an extra subscription fee. Horse armor truly created the worst timeline.
its the first major example because of the era of information distribution letting people post about it on the internet. in reality it probably didnt do shit and we wouldve gotten here regardless but because of the internet every pleb on the internet and with the title "journalist" was and has shitposted about it. similarly to the way people talk about FFVII as one of the "first/early 3D games" when Alone In The Dark and Tanks were alot more technically important and groundbreaking
No not at all. Go look up Mechassault paid dlc. Microsoft invented that concept and marketed it to major publishers back in the early 2000s. Ubisoft had paid maps in Rainbow six 3, Mechassault had paid mechs and maps day 1 of release, and other publishers were copying that exact model of selling small content in smaller pricing all well before Bethesda submitted their own attempt. Nobody knows this because nobody bought an OG xbox and you had to own the specific game to know of its existence, versus 360 era marketplace that showed everything.
>blaming the israelites for your tiny dick
Dude that's a REALLY good merchant.
Nah the first actual integrated MTX (afaik) was in one of those "Ultimate Football Manager" or something like that, where you had to buy card packs to get new players. It predates Oblivion and Valve's mtx practices.
Fricking Valve.
Bethesda may have been pioneers with their shitty horse DLC, but they failed miserably. They were mocked relentlessly and ''horse armor DLC'' is still a joke in a day when people genuinely buy actual horse armor DLC. Everything was fine, the cosmetics cash grabs were shut down. And then Valve added hats and loot crates to TF2. Microtransactions, loot crates, p2w weapons and paid cosmetics have been industry standard since. And then Valve came up with the battle pass for Dota 2.
The worst company that has ever existed.
i was utterly confused the day i got a crate in a game and was asked to purchase a key for it- concluding that it was "sort of a scam right? thats basically paying to gamble?". and then several years later i would pay a small amount during my play of free games because theyd last me longer than games i paid until i realised theres no "good will" here and the games dont actually survive off people voting with their wallets or "supporting good devs" and theyll rake in billions no matter how good or awful the games get so it isnt even worth it to throw them pennies for agreeing.
online matchmaking
Name a good game ruined by microtransactions. Every microtransactions game is just a moronic media-ghetto. It's like saying tv ruins video games (which it does in its own way, but not in the sense this thread is about).
Overwatch 2
You would have consumed that fodder were it not for the fact you have to pay to put your preferred virtual pornstar in a new coloured hat?
Read any of the negative reviews on the steam release. They are centered around MTX pricing and the fact heroes and what little PVE content are behind money walls. The fact they shifted from being to earn everything for free to one that forces you to fork over your wallet is another big complaint.
Rocksmith plus. The 2014 game let you pay for what you wanted but there's a repository of 50K+ songs you can use for free by users. Ubisoft saw that and tried forcing the newest entry behind a subscription fee since they know nobody would keep giving them money when the community made them redundant.
all of them. your example would make sense if TV caused original videogames to die because devs thought every game had to latch onto a TV property to "make sense" or make profit.
saying "games with MTX were garbage anyway" is the shittest take
The Sims since Sims 3. Beyond the overpriced addons on the store. In-game they had a shop for selling maps and clothes and furniture for insane amounts of money. Thank god all of its easily pirated and worked around.
Warframe could've been a good game if it wasn't bogged down by microtransactions up the ass
Call of Duty
>good game
I know, but I decided to pick up Cold War when it was on sale since the last one I played was W@W and wanted zombies. Jesus fricking christ they had a whole MTX shop with whole bunch of ugly shit. I miss the days of faceless grunts killing each other and the worst thing you saw was a gun with blue camo or a golden ak. Now we got these OC hero gays with 10 skins each you can buy that clash with the setting.
The whole point if buying cosmetics is to show off. The last thing anyone willing to buy cosmetics in the first place wants is to blend in with the rest of the game. The IW CoDs will launch with realistic looking bundles at first when more people are playing, then as the audience shrinks they shift back to stupid shit like Homelander and Shredder. Treyarch doesn't give a frick and just launches with moron shit on day 1.
The only way I'm accepting any kind of micro transactions in my game is when it's F2P model.
If it's a full paid game with that shit and stuff like a battle pass on top, I'm going to straight up ignore it and maybe at best pirate it.
consoles
>normalized DRM
>normalized always online
>normalized loot boxes
>normalized early access scams
>normalized NFTs before NFTs
dicky
OP said damage, not healing
In all honesty I hate wokism more than predatory microtransactions. Cosmetics are easy to ignore, pay to win ruins the game so also easy to ignore, and a 2 hour long bonus segment for 5$ isn't that bad. Wokism is a part of the base game though so you're stuck with it, and that makes me ignore the entire game.
Quick Save/Quick Reload
Crazy how Bethesda have been behind some of the worst "innovations" in the video game industry. Paid horse armor with Oblivion, and then paid fricking mods with Skyrim.
Kind of scared for Starfield, what will the introduce now that they have Microsofts backing?
the worst thing was EA aquiring tons of IP and then killing it right away. Man, I would have loved to have another Alice game.
Valve
Blizzard
>I think game is shit even without MTX so it doesn't count!
Frick off
You can't draw a reasonable connection between these elements of these games and video games getting worse.
Did they bleed into the market that matters (good video games) or are they just a new one that shares a name (that being "video games")?
>Did they bleed into the market that matters (good video games)
Yes, valve is a perfect example of a company that makes good games but has poisoned them with microtransactions. The games keep people playing so it lays the foundation for other big gaming companies to think they can push the limits more
Valve made a few decent games way back (they were always a less interesting Bungie to me) and then got lost in STEM nerd hell of working on tech stuff forever, using artless fodder games for animals like you to fund the endeavours. Are you going to try to tell me Counter Strike is a good game? And is now a bad game because it costs money to buy a gold knife to flex on your fellow mexicans?
That's exactly how it's bad. It can be described as "content". What was once an expressive work through we could study the inner world of a man has been reduced to a succession of entertaining non-things calculated to effectively waste time without challenging you or forcing you into any kind of real encounter with yourself or the world.
And if by "challenge" you think I'm saying the "combat" is easy, please stick to the spanish (spic) internet.
My point remains that you can't compromise a meaningless experience.
>attention prostitute is avatar gayging cats
water is wet
>My point remains that you can't compromise a meaningless experience.
Except you gave me an obviously opinionated question that was factually incorrect and I gave you my answer. Then you followed up with a highly subjective statement.
So here's your (you) you profound dumbass. It's no surprise you chose Ganker for your choice in company.
I mean its not even a close bet surely? Mobile phones ruined gaming. It laid the foundation for cheap easy rip off apps that bled into the wider gaming market. Yes horse DLC is an example of the same thing but it was rejected by people who's attention spans hadn't been ruined
Accessible fast Internet is a close second though. If you have to go into a store to get "DLC" that was blatantly a rip off then the cashier selling it to you would just tell you its worth buying something else
valve and their hats/weapon skins
>Witcher 3
hows witcher bad you dumb Black person, its full game with insane amount of content for reasonable price
>Do you really feel like sprinting around in circles in an area the size of a small car park with 15 energy drink consuming cretins was an aesthetically sound and satisfying experience? Did you really like W@W?
Not as much as CoD4, but it was okay. Played zombies more than anything with the group. Also don't remember energy drinks being that widely available back then, but maybe it was just where I lived, cause apparently Red Bull existed since the late 80's, and one of the first ones I noticed here a couple of years later.
TF2 and CSGO lootboxes. Don’t know why you boomers keep focusing on the horse armor DLC when it did nothing.
WoW
Orange criminial and his tourist followers. It really change the quality and content of games.
Fromshitware and it's rollslop games
soulsgays ruin everything
Blizzard and it's not even close.
Jews