>Imagine being a grown man and doing this.
Yov jvst don't have enovgh sovl.
Try giving yovrself a lobotomy so yov can have sovl and be based like us. Then you will lulz.
What's your criteria for good graphics in the context of early 3D graphics? Does your opinion on how good the graphics are directly correlate with how close it looks to some uncanny valley Pixarslop?
I like the aesthetic of 3D games on Sega Saturn. 8-bit/pixel art "looks like shit" but it doesn't stop people from appreciating it long after modern technology left it by the wayside. You're just a dumb zoomer who considers the Wii to be a retro console and can't acclimate your eyes to anything older.
Proper art direction, attention to detail and carefully crafted environments and assets, with a level of detail that matches with the resolution of the assets.
Castlevania 64 or the 2 Goemon N64 games have "soul" because they were actually crafted with care and a little bit of the people working on the games was passed onto the game.
Mario Tennis 64 is just shovelware that looks like they did the bare minimum they could get away with, with a mix of training to go for realism with the environments, and on the other hand the chibi models probably based on other N64 games Nintendo was working on at the time and slapped into a tennis game at the moment in dev (because that's how it went with most Mario spin offs).
tl;dr, Castlevania 64, Goemon = soul
Mario Tennis 64 = shit
and confusing the two is extremely dangerous because it dilutes the meaning of "soul" and makes it look meaningless to other people. And in the case of OP it probably comes from nostalgia too, who thinks every commercial shovelware slapped together hastily has "soul" just because he happened to be between the age of 10 and 12 when he consumed it.
and what's even more sad is the amount of people ITT who instantly assume I'm a "zoomer" who doesn't enjoy old games just because I dared to say that, *gasp* Mario Tennis 64 of all things, an average sports shovelware on which they slapped Mario assets into during the last moments of dev, looks like shit.
This really shows how nostalgia fueled you all are. Just because it was on the N64 and because it has Mario in it it has "soul". That's all it takes and it doesn't matter how well made the game is. And anyone who disagrees is a dumb zoomer consuming "pixarslop" and whatnot.
I think you're the ones who don't really enjoy old games for what they are if you can't tell the difference and have to be so offended so somewhere would consider Mario Tennis 64 to look like shit.
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No, the guy (Me) said "this" looks like shit. *This* being the screenshot OP posted.
OP could have posted any N64 game, even Quest 64 has its moments of grace, instead he posted the most generic shovelware with a Mario face on it he could find. I'm starting to think it was bait to gather the Nintendo nostalgiagays and see how they'd respond and everyone fell for it, including me.
You should do one of those with Jet Force Gemini, Sin and Punishment and Neon Genesis Evangelion
Except this is the only PS1 game that even marginally looks this good, and it plays like fricking trash. It's literally a game that got memed into popularity entirely because of its graphics, which aren't emblematic of the system overall.
I grew up with the N64 and I have to hand it to the PSX on that one.
Agreed. 100x more nostalgia for the N64 and I play mine regularly while barely touching PSX games but I prefer the pixelated jittery graphics over the N64's blurry textures.
One Princess, maybe. But Nintendo gradually rolling out more over time and using them to sell merch to girls, then opening their own Nintendo themepark? Super Mario Bros. is the epitome of boring, sterile Disney fantasy.
There is nothing aesthetically captivating about most N64 games. They're just worse version of what you can play on Gamecube. They're ugly, blocky, and feel very artificial and tacky.
Mario Tennis is such a GOAT game. Seriously. I think it's the one definitive case in the Mario sports/spin-off games where the first entry is undeniably the best. The Gamecube version was ambitious, but I always felt like the addition of "super shots" took away more than it added. I also hated that they changed Paratroopa from being "tricky" to "technique", since he was my favorite character. Everything after has been so forgettable it may as well not even exist.
Same for Mario Golf, maybe? I didn't play as much of it as I did tennis, but I always preferred the 64 version to GC.
It absolutely does not. The first thing I noticed all the way back in 2001 when I got a PS2 was how fricking atrocious the image quality was compared to my Dreamcast, with both systems hooked up via RGB SCART. Aliased, blurry shit.
I don't care about (You)s but I accept your concession. Run along back to the anti-Sony circlejerk on Ganker where you can make up more lies with like-minded idiots.
I grew up with the N64, didn't really ever have any other consoles other than a GBC and a PS2 down the line, and I loved it. But in retrospect, it is graphically one of the worst. It really has a strong sense of transition, going into 3D from 2D but not really being competent at it yet, or just being hindered by technological limitations. The 2D Mario games that had already come out when Super Mario 64 was released looked a lot better, probably because the 2D graphics had been worked on for a long time, whereas Super Mario 64 really mostly just looks really blurry and blocky.
and what's even more sad is the amount of people ITT who instantly assume I'm a "zoomer" who doesn't enjoy old games just because I dared to say that, *gasp* Mario Tennis 64 of all things, an average sports shovelware on which they slapped Mario assets into during the last moments of dev, looks like shit.
This really shows how nostalgia fueled you all are. Just because it was on the N64 and because it has Mario in it it has "soul". That's all it takes and it doesn't matter how well made the game is. And anyone who disagrees is a dumb zoomer consuming "pixarslop" and whatnot.
I think you're the ones who don't really enjoy old games for what they are if you can't tell the difference and have to be so offended so somewhere would consider Mario Tennis 64 to look like shit.
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No, the guy (Me) said "this" looks like shit. *This* being the screenshot OP posted.
OP could have posted any N64 game, even Quest 64 has its moments of grace, instead he posted the most generic shovelware with a Mario face on it he could find. I'm starting to think it was bait to gather the Nintendo nostalgiagays and see how they'd respond and everyone fell for it, including me.
What's the format for making these? Are they spaced by game time or just shots that look cool?
No, the guy (Me) said "this" looks like shit. *This* being the screenshot OP posted.
OP could have posted any N64 game, even Quest 64 has its moments of grace, instead he posted the most generic shovelware with a Mario face on it he could find. I'm starting to think it was bait to gather the Nintendo nostalgiagays and see how they'd respond and everyone fell for it, including me.
literally anything other than the n64. it's the worst piece of shit of all time and you wouldn't gobble its nutsack if it didn't have nintendo written on it
Yeah. I wish they just made better pre-renders for some older games. I particularly wish they had remastered the first two Oddworld games, instead of making Puke 'N' Lazy. But these studios are mostly only interested in doing the least amount of effort possible in order to get some quick cash injections.
Nonsense, N64 games have plenty of fog.
It's not just the fog. It's the diffuse textures and the way they blend into one another. Everything straddles that border where you can mostly tell what a given object or creature is supposed to be, but it's blurry and rough-edged enough that you also can't cleanly make out details, so your imagination has to fill in the gaps. I don't think N64 would be able to do that, everything is too angular and flat.
at least the fricking 7th gen piss filter is a simple filter you can remove with a mod (like GTA IV). shitty low poly 5th gen graphics are hardcoded in and aged like shit.
SNES, PS and even 6th gen have more SOVL than the N64.
This looks like shit. You're confusing soul with nostalgia. God I hate nostalgiagays.
Zoomers Ganker is 2 doors down.
>Game I grew up with has le sovl
>I disagree
>REEEEE ZOOMER GET THE FRICK OOOUT
Imagine being a grown man and doing this.
>zoomer giving insight on what a "grown man" is
older zoomers are in their mid-late 20s now
>Imagine being a grown man and doing this.
Yov jvst don't have enovgh sovl.
Try giving yovrself a lobotomy so yov can have sovl and be based like us. Then you will lulz.
Ganker unironically has better discussion with less shit flinging than /vr/.
this didn't use to be the case until the stupid rule change
Looking like shit is sovlful.
Gotcha covered, pal. One soul coming right up.
Go back homosexual
What's your criteria for good graphics in the context of early 3D graphics? Does your opinion on how good the graphics are directly correlate with how close it looks to some uncanny valley Pixarslop?
I like the aesthetic of 3D games on Sega Saturn. 8-bit/pixel art "looks like shit" but it doesn't stop people from appreciating it long after modern technology left it by the wayside. You're just a dumb zoomer who considers the Wii to be a retro console and can't acclimate your eyes to anything older.
Proper art direction, attention to detail and carefully crafted environments and assets, with a level of detail that matches with the resolution of the assets.
Castlevania 64 or the 2 Goemon N64 games have "soul" because they were actually crafted with care and a little bit of the people working on the games was passed onto the game.
Mario Tennis 64 is just shovelware that looks like they did the bare minimum they could get away with, with a mix of training to go for realism with the environments, and on the other hand the chibi models probably based on other N64 games Nintendo was working on at the time and slapped into a tennis game at the moment in dev (because that's how it went with most Mario spin offs).
tl;dr, Castlevania 64, Goemon = soul
Mario Tennis 64 = shit
and confusing the two is extremely dangerous because it dilutes the meaning of "soul" and makes it look meaningless to other people. And in the case of OP it probably comes from nostalgia too, who thinks every commercial shovelware slapped together hastily has "soul" just because he happened to be between the age of 10 and 12 when he consumed it.
You should do one of those with Jet Force Gemini, Sin and Punishment and Neon Genesis Evangelion
You have poor taste
Does sovl mean bad? If so then yes
Yes to what?
yes N64 has sovl
No, "comfy" means bad.
Example: Wind Waker is such a comfy game!
NES graphics.
quite literally every nintendo console before the N64 had more sovl
correct
5th generation graphics on the whole suck badly.
PS1 graphics
I grew up with the N64 and I have to hand it to the PSX on that one.
Except this is the only PS1 game that even marginally looks this good, and it plays like fricking trash. It's literally a game that got memed into popularity entirely because of its graphics, which aren't emblematic of the system overall.
I know that boombox
the game is fun thoguh
Agreed. 100x more nostalgia for the N64 and I play mine regularly while barely touching PSX games but I prefer the pixelated jittery graphics over the N64's blurry textures.
>boring, sterile disney fantasy
soulless
But enough about the entire Mario series complete with multiple Princesses
Didney didn't invent the concept of princesses, they had more to do with furgay shit every snoy loves
One Princess, maybe. But Nintendo gradually rolling out more over time and using them to sell merch to girls, then opening their own Nintendo themepark? Super Mario Bros. is the epitome of boring, sterile Disney fantasy.
n64 thread, wii shit doesn't exist here
There were already multiple Mario princesses in the 90s
And there were already multiple princess Zeldas in the 80s.
Spyro had multiple princesses
Correct. N64 was incapable of supporting the visceral haziness and unknowable nightmarish qualities so essential to Silent Hill.
Nonsense, N64 games have plenty of fog.
Looks like some epsxe emulator upscaling and texture filtering to me
Kolibri for the Sega 32x.
Good fricking game
Good game fricking
There is nothing aesthetically captivating about most N64 games. They're just worse version of what you can play on Gamecube. They're ugly, blocky, and feel very artificial and tacky.
SEGA Saturn graphics
Mario Tennis is such a GOAT game. Seriously. I think it's the one definitive case in the Mario sports/spin-off games where the first entry is undeniably the best. The Gamecube version was ambitious, but I always felt like the addition of "super shots" took away more than it added. I also hated that they changed Paratroopa from being "tricky" to "technique", since he was my favorite character. Everything after has been so forgettable it may as well not even exist.
Same for Mario Golf, maybe? I didn't play as much of it as I did tennis, but I always preferred the 64 version to GC.
Power Tour was unadulterated kino
PS2's Emotion Engine
Sorry, I can't see the soul, must be hidden behind all that motion blur
god the PS2 was such a shitty looking system.
Looks great on real hardware
It absolutely does not. The first thing I noticed all the way back in 2001 when I got a PS2 was how fricking atrocious the image quality was compared to my Dreamcast, with both systems hooked up via RGB SCART. Aliased, blurry shit.
Nope, it looks good on an actual PS2 playing on a CRT. You're not fooling anyone, zoomie.
Here's your (You). Hiding this shit thread now.
I don't care about (You)s but I accept your concession. Run along back to the anti-Sony circlejerk on Ganker where you can make up more lies with like-minded idiots.
OP here this is correct. Playing PS2 games over component on my consumer trinitron looks fricking GORGEOUS.
not retro
(Yukiko-senpai noticed me!!!!!)
Dreamcast graphics
Literally anything else
literally anything else from before 2000
SNES graphics.
SNES graphics
NES graphics
I grew up with the N64, didn't really ever have any other consoles other than a GBC and a PS2 down the line, and I loved it. But in retrospect, it is graphically one of the worst. It really has a strong sense of transition, going into 3D from 2D but not really being competent at it yet, or just being hindered by technological limitations. The 2D Mario games that had already come out when Super Mario 64 was released looked a lot better, probably because the 2D graphics had been worked on for a long time, whereas Super Mario 64 really mostly just looks really blurry and blocky.
SNES graphics. Specifically Super Mario World 1 and 2
Dreamcast graphics. Sonic Adventure stands out
and what's even more sad is the amount of people ITT who instantly assume I'm a "zoomer" who doesn't enjoy old games just because I dared to say that, *gasp* Mario Tennis 64 of all things, an average sports shovelware on which they slapped Mario assets into during the last moments of dev, looks like shit.
This really shows how nostalgia fueled you all are. Just because it was on the N64 and because it has Mario in it it has "soul". That's all it takes and it doesn't matter how well made the game is. And anyone who disagrees is a dumb zoomer consuming "pixarslop" and whatnot.
I think you're the ones who don't really enjoy old games for what they are if you can't tell the difference and have to be so offended so somewhere would consider Mario Tennis 64 to look like shit.
What's the format for making these? Are they spaced by game time or just shots that look cool?
I just take a lot of screenshots while playing and put them together depending on what looks cool in paint
The virgin
>how are you doing this? What’s your format?
Versus the chad
>idk I just make it up as I go
Not intending to make them. Just wasn't sure what the context was.
No, the guy (Me) said "this" looks like shit. *This* being the screenshot OP posted.
OP could have posted any N64 game, even Quest 64 has its moments of grace, instead he posted the most generic shovelware with a Mario face on it he could find. I'm starting to think it was bait to gather the Nintendo nostalgiagays and see how they'd respond and everyone fell for it, including me.
some older games are really interesting and more soulful in some ways. N64 is great though, definitely tons of soul there.
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These graphics were the most soulful xD xD
We should make the paddles bigger.
You're accidentally correct
literally anything other than the n64. it's the worst piece of shit of all time and you wouldn't gobble its nutsack if it didn't have nintendo written on it
EarthBound, of course.
Saturn graphics
true, and it's honestly not even close. Genesis is similarly beautiful. Why do the colors of Sega machines always look extra careful
N64 games are too blurry
Nothing will ever be more soul than pre-renders.
Yeah. I wish they just made better pre-renders for some older games. I particularly wish they had remastered the first two Oddworld games, instead of making Puke 'N' Lazy. But these studios are mostly only interested in doing the least amount of effort possible in order to get some quick cash injections.
It's not just the fog. It's the diffuse textures and the way they blend into one another. Everything straddles that border where you can mostly tell what a given object or creature is supposed to be, but it's blurry and rough-edged enough that you also can't cleanly make out details, so your imagination has to fill in the gaps. I don't think N64 would be able to do that, everything is too angular and flat.
As said, pre-rendered graphics. Specifically, pre-rendered backgrounds with 3D characters and objects in front of them.
superfx graphics
at least the fricking 7th gen piss filter is a simple filter you can remove with a mod (like GTA IV). shitty low poly 5th gen graphics are hardcoded in and aged like shit.
SNES, PS and even 6th gen have more SOVL than the N64.
3D era Sega arcade games are pretty soulful to me. The bright environments and super-saturated colours just extremely satisfying on the eyes.
5th gen graphics have a charm to them.