I mean, Danny Phantom ended way before that whole ordeal happened, and she wasn't even a main villain so it's not like she was going to a part of any marketing for show that ended. Plus, it's been like 6 years since the incident happened, you can't blame a show on someone's messed up psyche.
>when it was confirmed it was leo and mikey only people were shitting on the devs for making a half finished roster
no it hurt the game them being quirky actively hurt the game
Honestly, probably a better pick than Calamitous. I can't really think of the moveset, but Calamitous himself would just follows Planktom's gimmick with the mech.
Not that Anon but so?
Plankton's mech and Calamitous' mech are two different types of mechs.
Also having two mech fighters isn't a bad thing. We already have three superhero characters so why not two mechs.
To be honest, for what I saw of Planktom's Mechs, is mostly how I remember Calamitous's Mech working. I guess for Mech on Mech fights, I would rather Puma Loco, Skulker (technically) or even Robotsnail. Yeah, I won't mind Calamitous makes the cut, and I am probably off the mark and they can make him work, but yeah, not my first pick to double dip on the concept.
The real question is why the hell they would think Gerald would be a proper replacement. If it was Arnold and his Grandma, nobody would bate and eye, because Gertie is unironically the one character from the show who makes perfect sense for a fighting game, even if most people would take it as a joke. Still, not a character anyone was actively asking for, so she only works as a "complement". And because Gerald is clearly "Arnold at home", that complement isn't working. Again, you can bring up how "Arnold is a pacifist, it's against character to have him on a fighting game", and I could be willing to believe that. But throwing more characters to "make up" for his absence, only makes said absence more obvious. They should had stick with Helga only, and give those slots to other shows. Not even new ones, Zim, MLAATG and Rocko, they all could had used the extra character. Even Robotsnail as a rival to Reptard. And let me be clear, Gerald is so baffling as a replacement, that before the leak, there were a lot of memes and "dread", about Clyde from the Loud House being in, and yet if that would had been the case, opinions on that show aside, it would had still been far less controversial.
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For one, not basing attacks on memes and actually putting in the mcs of the games represented first with the exception of arms because no one gives a shit about springman
Everyone keeps saying the game is full of memes, but I honestly don't know any Nick memes outside of Spongebob, Jimmy Neutron and probably Garfield. What are the memes in all the other characters?
Not really, there's been platform fighters for random IPs for years. You don't see people calling games like Digimon Rumble Arena, Dream Mix TV World Fighters, Jump Ultimate Stars, Cartoon Network Punch Time Explosion memes. Like, what IS a meme to you?
Except the only memes are only from the Spongebob variety and Spongebob is a far less serious show. You keep exaggerating this shit but the majority of the first game's roster was played straight outside of the blatantly silly characters. Same shit for NASB 2, Jimmy is played straight.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You do know that SpongeBob characters can be taken seriously too right?
Like in the Nicktoons Unite serious, SpongeBob characters were taken just as seriously as everyone else and they worked better there than in NASB.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's fricking moronic to force this idea that Spongebob characters need to be taken 100% serious even in games that aren't serious. Plenty of games even the Nicktoons Unite series did silly shit with them. Get over yourself, gaylord.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I never said 100%, don't shove words into my mouth.
And you'd be lying to yourself if you said the Nicktoons Unite series didn't take SpongeBob much more seriously than NASB does.
9 months ago
Anonymous
There's a difference between the games, dumbass. NASB is a non serious fighter that allows room for silly stuff while the Unite series is a more grounded crossover story. NASB better fits Spongebob's goofy episodic comedy structure.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah no shit they're different games but that doesn't mean NASB should take it seriously, and it doesn't mean the game itself shouldn't take itself seriously.
Your views on the game just being a "non series fighter" is a disservice to the game and the IPs in it.
If a game can't be taken seriously then how can you expect it to succeed?
Not to mention the devs are taken it seriously, so you calling the game that is also a disservice to the devs as well.
But like you said, the game is "non serious" and a lot of people see it that way too, that's why there's little to no hype for the game. When people can't take it seriously then the public interest and good will starts to shrink.
How you see the game is exactly what's going to be the end of it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, it shouldn't. Demanding a game to be completely serious for every character despite Spongebob itself not being serious is moronic and I'm glad the wider fanbase from both NASB and Spongebob don't share your dumbass >iS A DISSERVICE
grow up, homosexual. The IP itself doesn't present itself seriously and is primarily an episodic comedic. Apply this shit to Avatar and Danny Phantom but not Spongebob. Spongebob is malleable and can be anything you want. >Are taken it seriously
Objectively wrong. The devs view it as a silly platform fighter and how lax they were with balance and what to do include in the game proves it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>No, it shouldn't. Demanding a game to be completely serious for every character despite Spongebob itself not being serious is moronic and I'm glad the wider fanbase from both NASB and Spongebob don't share your dumbass
Again you're shoving words into my mouth.
I never said SpongeBob characters should be taken completely seriously, i'm saying they should be taken more seriously than how NASB is taking them. >grow up, homosexual. The IP itself doesn't present itself seriously and is primarily an episodic comedic. Apply this shit to Avatar and Danny Phantom but not Spongebob. Spongebob is malleable and can be anything you want.
Even episodic shows can be taken seriously. In fact a lot of SpongeBob episodes are taken seriously. Band Geeks, Christmas Who, Friend or Foe, Texus, Nature Pants, etc.
And i find it funny how you say "Apply this to Avatar and Danny Phantom" even though i do do that and every time i do you're always there to complain about anything negative i have to say about how they're handled. >Objectively wrong. The devs view it as a silly platform fighter and how lax they were with balance and what to do include in the game proves it.
Well if that's the case, and honestly i can believe you on that one, then maybe the devs should take the game more seriously for the public to take it seriously.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm saying they should be taken more seriously
No the frick they shouldn't. If NASB is a goofy game then it works, Spongebob does not have the characters be all that serious so they don't need to be. As I said, they are malleable. They don't need to be serious if it works for the game's identity. Which it does. >A lot of Spongebob episodes are taken seriously
And JUST AS MANY if not more outright are silly and have over the top plots. Spongebob isn't consistently seriously and it doesn't have to be depicted seriously to do the franchise seriously. Spongebob as a character changes drastically per episode with his competence wildly varying. >You're always there to complain
Nope. I never argued for the Avatars' shitty movesets in NASB 1. I only opposed some of your shit arguments about Danny specifically because it's nonsensical. Specifically the wail being nerfed. >Should take the game more seriously for the public to take it more seriously
It's a game based off childrens cartoons while copying Smash: a party game with graphics that'll never match Smash. It'll never be taken seriously and your insistence on projecting your preferences onto the masses makes you look moronic. Numerous beloved Nick games aren't taken seriously either.
9 months ago
Anonymous
*it doesn't have to be depicted seriously to do the franchise justice.
Ppl just be saying anything. I do agree that there's too many references that serve little utility. I.e. Toph belt as an attack, Danny ghost capturing move as an attack
Nigel himself is a meme as well as Catdog and Powdered Toast Man.
Dog even uses the super buff meme in their moveset.
Not to mention stages with connections to memes such as the Rugrats stage being based on the episode where this meme reaction image came from.
Yeah no shit it's from an actual episode but it doesn't change the fact that it's a meme.
Seriously, what's wrong with you asshats and die hard defending the game?
9 months ago
Anonymous
What's wrong with dumbasses like you blowing harmless references out of proportion to push a narrative?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Have you not been keeping up with the conversation?
An Anon asked about what memes are used, all i did was give him examples.
You're really too sensitive to be on Ganker.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Except the buff dog is barely a meme and not worth bringing to the conversation. The conversation is trying to put "meme references" in a negative light.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah because meme references are a negative.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Only if you're an oversensitive whiny b***h. The dog turning buff is a natural ability. That's like saying Kirby can't suck shit up because its associated with memes or Dedede can't be goofy because he's a target of memes, you disingenuous homosexual.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Mother fricker do you not know how disingenuous it is to compare Dog getting buff to Kirby's inhaling?
Dog's buff only happened in one episode, Kirby's inhaling is a core gameplay mechanic of his franchise since the very beginning of it.
And yeah, Dedede's a goofy guy, but even in Smash he's taken seriously with his goofyness only being there for a few taunt and victory animations.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No shit Dedede is taken serious. Have you played the Kirby games you moron? The home series consistently takes him serious as a worthy rival and friend to Kirby. While Catdog and Spongebob are episodic shows that focus on comedy than high stakes serious action. >i-it was in one episode!!!!111
Cartoons are a different media from video games, Black person. You don't see anyone getting mad that say... Mario uses items that only shined in one or two games at best. It doesn't matter if its one episode, the Dog can become buff and that's an ability he can have due to the laws of toon physics.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>No shit Dedede is taken serious. Have you played the Kirby games you moron? The home series consistently takes him serious as a worthy rival and friend to Kirby. While Catdog and Spongebob are episodic shows that focus on comedy than high stakes serious action.
Are you fricking kidding me? Is this just some elaborate troll posting? I brought up Dedede being taken seriously because you used his goofyness to compare him to Dog getting buff.
I was just pointing out how ridiculous that comparison is. >Cartoons are a different media from video games, Black person. You don't see anyone getting mad that say... Mario uses items that only shined in one or two games at best. It doesn't matter if its one episode, the Dog can become buff and that's an ability he can have due to the laws of toon physics.
You wanna use Mario as an example? OK then. There's only one move he has that's only from a single game and that's Fludd, and even then people are getting tired of Fludd being in his moveset. It was fine as a one time thing to incorperate the latest 3D Mario at the time into his moveset, but a lot of people can agree that Fludd overstayed his welcome. I personally think Fludd would be better as an item that any character can use.
And other than Fludd there is absolutely no other move Mario has that has only been used in just one or two games.
If you want a better comparison i can say that Dog getting buff would be like Mario using the gun he had in Yoshi's Safari.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>like Mario using the gun he had in Yoshi's Safari
Well...
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's an item, not apart of his moveset.
But i know you're joking so i'll give you a nice kek.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Real talk, hoping that since items will be in from the beginning this time, the characters will actually hold them properly.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Except it is comparable. Dog becoming buff is a canon ability in a show that isn't all that action based. They have to stretch if they want a canon accurate moveset and Catdog as a show acknowledges that Dog can become buff freely. Just because it got associated with memes doesn't mean it shouldn't be used or Dedede shouldn't be goofy because his goofiness is a meme. >Dog getting buff would be like Mario using the gun
No it wouldn't. Because that's not a mainline game while the Dog getting bulky canonically happened in the main show. The majority don't give a shit if Fludd or one off powerups are used because if it fits and looks good, no one will mind. Just like how no one minds the Dog becoming buff. It's a funny ability that fits the cartoony vibes of NASB while it's something the Dog can actually do so it's not even an inaccurate meme portrayal. b***hing about this shit just makes you look like a nitpicking moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Well atleast with your logic if Waluigi gets added to Smash we can shit on Sakurai for adding a dumb meme character.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Here's the thing about Waluigi, if he gets in Smash at this point then that'd be fine due to the amount of fan favorite and staple Nintendo characters already in the game.
But when it comes to NASB, adding memes over the like of Zuko, Dib, Mr,. Krabs, etc would be like adding Waluigi before Wario.
9 months ago
Anonymous
To be fair, Azula isn't a meme character and the devs are adamant on not adding Arnold due to the pacifist shit.
Not to mention Smash has done things like that in the past with adding Min Min over Spring Man and Pythra over Rex. Also, Incineroar and Greninja where chosen due to moveset potential rather than actual demand/popularity.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Comparing Zuko to Springman and Rex is inaccurate consider he's pretty much the most popular character in the franchise and he too has moveset potential.
Azula isn't a meme yes but she was chosen due to tokenism.
Tbf the mc thing is also itself a drawback because with video game series the ever changing mcs means that Fire Emblem always gets the boring pick and Pokemon shill picks since they rep that gen. It's like if they included Power Rangers in one of these games so Red was always going to be added 20 times.
Pokémon still has variety among those even if only maybe Ivysaur isn't one of the massively shilled species (and still Bulbasaur is common, just not the mid-evo form).
I hate the whole "there is no face of arms" lie they say. Spring man is the face just like ryu, Ryu isn't even the most popular character in his own series just like spring man yet he is the face of it.
Sakurai is a pretty shity dev honestly.
He really hates melee players and is still butthurt about people thrilled with brawl story mode so he said he won't do it ever again because people uploaded the cutscenes on youtube.
I won't even start discussing taste wars like waluigi, riddley, etc.
Even failures such as Nickelodeon or Multiversus tried to listen to their cummunity (even though they fricked up for entirely different reasons)
Sakurai is too casual focused, while Thad and Tony were too comp-heavy. What we need is a game that equally caters to both the casuals and the competitive scene. The 'Street Fighter 6' of platform fighters so-to-speak. The addition of all those new single player modes in NASB2 is a step in the right direction, and I hope Multiversus follows suit in it's full launch, since a story mode was datamined during the beta.
I find it odd that you're saying thay Sakurai doesn't listen when he added the vast majority of characters people wanted in Ultimate, including Ridley, K.Rool, Banjo and fricking Sora
Stop questioning that line of logic. It has been a lose battle from the start. No matter which character they add to Smash, as long as someone's favorite is still missing, there will always be a chorus signing how "inept of a Dev" Sakurai is.
I really don't care which one gets in as long as its fun to play. I sure as hell didn't know Ness or Fire Emblem until after I played them in smash. So I think literal whos, as long as they are unique are good addition.
I don't even care for Sora, but adding him without any of its game's elements due to disney it's kind of a bad idea. Also I absolutely hate the Mii's they are the contrary of fun and charismatic characters. Terrible idea for this game since you can't build with that.
To be fair, any sane person hates melee players. They deserve no respect nor sympathy.
Listen, You can hate as a player other players for whatever reason, but as a game maker, if there are people really supporting your game, you have to treat them respectfully at the very least.
>I don't even care for Sora, but adding him without any of its game's elements due to disney it's kind of a bad idea.
Literally the only thing they didn't add were PNGs of Mickey, Donald and Goofy because the cost to even use their image would have probably been WAY too much. Otherwise I'm not sure what other Disney elements you're talking about
Hey, I am the one treating the Melee players as the sweaty psychos they are. Sakurai himself already did as many compromises as he could allow to please that crew, while also still focusing on the actual millions of players who do play the new games, rather than the weird meta build around Melee. We are talking people who would seek out a broken controller just to keep up with that meta, there is no pleasing those guys.
>be sakurai >create game that heavily relies on multiplayer >make the worst online modes known to man with a shitty old net code >refuse to accept that people want to play his "party game" on a competitive level >avoid communication with fans at all cost
>Has been backpedaling since he utterly shit the bed with gameplay in Brawl
Only rosterBlack folk love this hack. Rivals, PM, and Slap City btfo of any Smash he's been involved in.
If you haven't watched the videos on his youtube channel you should check them out. He puts in a lot of work into details that people don't ever think about:
It doesn't feel like it changes much, but you definitely feel it when games DON'T include details like this, and that's why they always feel "off".
Being devil's advocate, is due to the game being confirm to be rebuild almost from scratch (something that's far more evident in the gameplay showcase. Spongebob alone is a new character compared to his counterpart in the first game) and one dev not being upfront in regards whatever all characters are coming back or not. Still, the idea of "any character that hasn't been shown yet is cut" is just absurd, and to some extend already proven wrong in the case of Leo and Lincoln.
I gotta be honest with you, I'm pretty sure the whole "rebuilding the game from scratch" talk is just marketing BS. The game definitely looks like plays a lot better than the first one, but the devs could've easily just built upon and tweaked the already existing framework. Unless there's a new console generation or a new updated engine, that's how sequels usually work.
Nah, the devs have gone on record and showed dissatisfaction with how broken of a game NASB 1. The code is spaghetti, starting over was the best move and they clearly did. The foundation was too messy.
There has been no word of actual cut characters, and if anything, there is both compelling evidence as well as "leak talk" of not announced characters from the first game already making a comeback. Plus the circumstantial evidence of how poor of a marketing choice would be to show characters that are being cut, on your first trailer. In that sense, there are at most four or five characters that could be cut and that's it.
But the former sucks while the latter barely has CN characters aside from Adventure Time, Steven Universe and probably PPG
Whatever happens with Multiversus When/if comes out of the vault, the idea may be neat, but honestly, is to overwhelming. The pool of characters is so big, that getting your actual favorite is like winning the lottery, with just about the same chances. Like, Smash was getting to big for some, and even then the amount of Videogame characters that fit the "Smash requirements" is fairly limited, even with third party includes. That's partly why I am rooting for Nick Brawl to take off here. Nothing against Multiversus, but roster oddities aside, it's easier to get invested on a Nicktoons crossover, than in the "anything under the Moon" crossover Multiversus offers, at least for me.
For real, Multiversus suffers from having too many characters too choose from. You are going to have to wait for a while to have your favorite character in the game. Multiversus is just not a game that's designed to pump out multiple characters.
Don't forget how the devs didn't want to name the game after WB because they want to add characters outside of WB.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Which is fricking stupid. Smash fans only wanted more 3rd party characters because we were about to hit the d list of characters.
We haven't even remotely hit that with Multiversus
9 months ago
Anonymous
To be fair, people keep asking for 3rd party guest characters in almost every fighting game nowadays. Along with Smash, there's also Tekken, Soul Calibur and Mortal Kombat who've also done such a thing. Why else do you think people keep asking for someone like Goku or Shrek in so many of these games? Also, people don't realize how big WB actually is, they only know WB through their more popular movies and cartoons, and even then there was confusion.
It's surprising how many times I've seen people say "Cartoon Network is owned by WB!?"
9 months ago
Anonymous
Theres no problem asking for 3rd party characters. I'm talking about the quantity of 3rd party picks. Ultimate was notorious for this.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, that's true. Square Enix really did not need four reps. As for Multiversus, if I remember correctly, before the devs scrubbed the game's code of references to future characters, one of those future characters was Eleven from Stranger Things, a Netflix show. It also probably isn't a coincidence that Omni Man and Homelander are being added to Mortal Kombat, those two characters were some of the more popular 3rd party picks people wanted in MVS outside of Walter White and Goku.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sure the devs would want some Disney characters in their too as they pitched it to them as a Disney game first as proven by Hulk's data.
Same with Shonen Jump as proven by the Naruto data.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I think the Naruto files were just references for the Ninja girl character from the game's previous iteration, Battle Bound. Her moveset did look pretty neat though, I do hope they reuse it for a future character.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Square Enix really did not need four reps
They only have three, Sora is owned by Disney.
9 months ago
Anonymous
MS, SEGA, and Capcom all have characters/series with varying degrees of association
9 months ago
Anonymous
That means nothing, Sora is officially owned by Disney, regardless of Square Enix developing the Kingdom Hearts games. Disney can say no to any of their pitches for games at any given time.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Fun fact, Sora was supposed to be the final DLC for Smash 4, and Disney was actually OK with that. It was Nomura who rejected it because at the time he couldn't find a way to make Smash canon to Kingdom Hearts.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>It was Nomura who rejected it because at the time he couldn't find a way to make Smash canon to Kingdom Hearts.
And this is why KH is a clusterfrick.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I really wanna know what a Nickelodeon Kingdom Hearts would be like.
I'm sure it wouldn't be as convoluted.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The Nicktoons Unite games are basically that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The Nicktoons Unite games are basically that.
>Nicktoons Unite + The World Ends With You
Disney meets Final Fantasy makes sense because they're both whimsical feeling, so Nick and TWEWY would make sense because a lot of Nick shows take place in urban/suburban settings, and TWEWY is literally set in an alternate Akihabara district. Not sure where to fit Avatar or Tak, but not every Disney IP in KH is fantasy so it doesn't matter too much.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Why else do you think people keep asking for someone like Goku or Shrek in so many of these games
Most of the time it appears to be for the lolz
WB gave Multiversus access to all of their shows, games, movies, comics, and whatever else. Already the team has to cast a wide net and try to hook in some big ones but with the possibilities this limitless I'm afraid that they won't please everyone and just feel like they're pulling names from a hat. At least with Nicktoons and Nintendo there's some expectations to be held given that the history isn't as long or vast as WB.
Not that Anon, and I don't fully agree with him. But it is true a lot of early Nicktoons were focused on relatively "ground to earth kids". As in, Dough, Hey Arnold, Rugrats, Rocket Power, As told by Ginger, even the Wild Thornberrys (Talking with animals isn't the fanciest of super powers). Now compare these shows with the over exaggerated Slapstick Prowers of Ed, Edd & Eddy or Johny Bravo (two of the most "down to earth" Cartoons, and with heavy quotetions there) and sure, a LOT of Nicktoons require more creative liberties to work in these sort of games, while Cartoon Networks just have an easy job. I am not saying Nick can work, they have their fare share of Slapstick or actual Action themed shows to make the roster work, and making all those "regular kids" work isn't impossible. But objectively speaking, CN does have a bigger and easier pool to work with.
Fair enough.
Most of those down to earth show are Klasky Csupo, slice of life shows were their thing.
This makes me wonder why Nick never teamed up with another studio to make more Nicktoons like they did with KC.
They kinda did in the 00s with Frederator, but then that stopped after a while.
All this talk about Multiversus reminds me of a fun fact.
Nickelodeon used to be a Time Warner company from it's creation in 1979 as until it, along with MTV and VH1, was sold to Viacom in 1986 for $685 million.
WB wouldn't have interest in kids TV again until Kids' WB in 1995.
Yeah, it's kinda funny if you think about it. How different would things be if WB still owned Nick. Would it have evolved into something like Cartoon Network?
I think Cartoon Network wouldn't exist, instead every CN show would be Nickelodeon along with all the Nick shows we have in this timeline.
This would pretty much give WB a monopoly over kids TV with their only rival being Disney.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Honestly, with how big 90s Nick and 90s CN were, WB probably could've easily beaten Disney in the TV department. Now that also brings another question... What would Viacom have become WITHOUT Nick (also MTV and VH1)?
9 months ago
Anonymous
All Viacom would have is Paramount and Star Treck.
Those are fine but on their own i think Viacom would have been bought up by either WB or Disney years go.
I haven't seen any new polls, but from a previous thread, this would be an update on the most spread poll, with the confirmed characters removed. As a side note, the top three remains the same
Interesting picks, though it's weird how Rudy & Snap are represented as both separate and duo characters. MVS polls also had a similar problem with Mordecai & Rigby.
I do too but I'm mainly waiting for the moveset spotlights to talk about it. Spongebob in the gameplay showcase already looked infinitely better than how he did in NASB1 and it's just making me wanna see all the other characters. I hope they changed his down special sonce the bite felt super forced and was probably just an excuse for them to add another meme
I guess the way he worded it is confusing but i don't really understand him bragging about using such a mechanic while agreeing with a contradicting viewpoint.
All this talk about Multiversus reminds me of a fun fact.
Nickelodeon used to be a Time Warner company from it's creation in 1979 as until it, along with MTV and VH1, was sold to Viacom in 1986 for $685 million.
WB wouldn't have interest in kids TV again until Kids' WB in 1995.
They kinda did in the 00s with Frederator, but then that stopped after a while.
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Yeah, it's kinda funny if you think about it. How different would things be if WB still owned Nick. Would it have evolved into something like Cartoon Network?
I think Cartoon Network wouldn't exist, instead every CN show would be Nickelodeon along with all the Nick shows we have in this timeline.
This would pretty much give WB a monopoly over kids TV with their only rival being Disney.
Another fun fact, Butch Hartman originally wanted to pitch Fairly OddParents to Hanna Barbara but they rejected him so he went to Nickelodeon instead.
In this timeline FOP is Nick's second biggest show alongside SpongeBob but if HB picked it up then the show could have been Cartoon Network's mascot series rivaling SpongeBob.
I know his down special is already the jackhammer, but I could see his super attack having him do some crazy jackhammer tricks while KOing people in the process. Either that or have the suck-o-matic suck everyone in and then either shoot them back out or explode.
Crazy idea, but what if Plankton's super was a counter attack? When the opponent hit's Plankton during it's activation, it shows the opponent dropping a penny into the robot's coinslot. And then after a few seconds, KABOOM!
That would be a pretty neat detail, but have we ever had counter final smashes before? All I remember is Ryu and Ken's changing depending on if they're close to an opponent.
Nope, but considering the slime meter practically makes NASB feel more like an actual fighter, I could see the devs experimenting with the applications of each super attack.
Is it just me or does this type of NASB fan art just feel sad now.
It's like that one image of Mario crying over NASB 1 only for it to age poorly.
This type of hype just comes off as sad at this point.
Seeing this unofficial Hot Topic mascot again made me remember the damnedest thing. >video recorded at some kind of Invader Zim-themed convention panel >girl in a Dog Gir costume runs up on stage >takes it off, revealing a Robot Gir cosplay underneath >starts doing a fricking striptease while bouncing on a yoga ball decorated like the pig and the Doom song blares over the speakers >flashes a silver-painted tiddy at the audience and runs off
I can't find it anymore and it pisses me off because I can't verify if I'm remembering it right or not.
Paramount doesn't want new IPs, they just want to do the same stuff over and over again, as well as do more licensed properties. And there's a good chance this might happen to the entire entertainment industry. 'Creativity' run by greedy suits and the algorithm. 'Nick' as you know it has been long gone, and the same can be said for a lot of things.
A lot of the suits have been in cahoots with the silicon valley guys, working on AI stuff to do all the concepting, writing, and voice acting. It's no coincidence that a lot of those guys are also trying to perfect AI art and video as well, those tech guys are going to want to make money selling it to greedy, lazy studios who don't want to hire actual people. Hell, you already got game publishers pushing out composers for AI music, as well as implementing AI model creation in more recent engines.
It's kinda funny, back in the day we'd always thought that robots would do all the hard work so that we could have time to be creative, but reality seems to be flipping that around. Either way, things are going to look very different a decade from now, and I'm sure that's a good thing.
Different how?
The only difference i can see being a good thing is if the overuse of AI at the expense of real people will cause a collapse of the entertainment industry so it can rise from the ashes better than it is now.
In this sinking global economy, with those stubborn CEOs? If the entertainment industry goes down anytime soon, it's gonna stay down for a while. This isn't like gaming crash of '83, every form and medium of entertainment will be effected by this. The best case scenario of such a situation is that it gives independent creators more wiggle room to do their own thing, but there's always a chance the gov will try to regulate all of that stuff too, they've already been trying to do that for a while now with stuff like COPPA, and all that's lead up to is shit like egotistical streamers and 'Elsagate'. Might fare a bit better for indie games, but I have a gut feeling ESRB will try to do something stupidly strict once all the AAA games die out.
A lot of the suits have been in cahoots with the silicon valley guys, working on AI stuff to do all the concepting, writing, and voice acting. It's no coincidence that a lot of those guys are also trying to perfect AI art and video as well, those tech guys are going to want to make money selling it to greedy, lazy studios who don't want to hire actual people. Hell, you already got game publishers pushing out composers for AI music, as well as implementing AI model creation in more recent engines.
It's kinda funny, back in the day we'd always thought that robots would do all the hard work so that we could have time to be creative, but reality seems to be flipping that around. Either way, things are going to look very different a decade from now, and I'm sure that's a good thing.
What's especially pathetic is that they're already working on another Fairly Oddparents reboot right after the live action show flopped so hard they took it off Paramount+.
That sitcom actually won a Kid's Choice Award despite not even being on Paramount+.
That shit is rigged.
Also, that black girl need new hair, it's not good to look at.
I remember vexus being kind of reduced to comic relief after the movie, am I remembering wrong? she was obsessing over Jenny on a trash planet or something
Yes but that's not comic relief, it's used as a tragic display of just how far she has fallen after Jenny's ultimate defeat over her. She hit rock bottom and it broke her.
I would think Zuko is more iconic than Azula
Azula picked for diversity + being villain. Same reason Ember over characters like Skulker/Dark Danny
honestly, vlad kind of covers anything skulker or dark Danny could do so im vlad ember got in if not only for the moveset variety
Dark Danny yeah but Skulker is pretty much a high tech suit of armor with hunting gear.
He's pretty much Kraven the Hunter with Dr. Doom tech.
I thought Ember was permabanned from everything
I'm surprised Thadeus hasn't announced he's cutting her like when he changed the dialogue for jenny
I plan on confronting Thaddeus on if he knows about Randy or not once she's revealed.
Wish me luck.
I mean, Danny Phantom ended way before that whole ordeal happened, and she wasn't even a main villain so it's not like she was going to a part of any marketing for show that ended. Plus, it's been like 6 years since the incident happened, you can't blame a show on someone's messed up psyche.
Tokenism is a poor business practice.
this is the same dev team that didn't put all 4 turtles in just cause they wanted to prove they didn't have too. None of their descions make sense
Its good that there arent all 4 turtles
Not having all four was a huge sore spot on the roster and alienated TMNT fans.
>when it was confirmed it was leo and mikey only people were shitting on the devs for making a half finished roster
no it hurt the game them being quirky actively hurt the game
For better and for worst.
Mostly for worse.
it's going to suck ass
King Goobot should be added!
Honestly, probably a better pick than Calamitous. I can't really think of the moveset, but Calamitous himself would just follows Planktom's gimmick with the mech.
Not that Anon but so?
Plankton's mech and Calamitous' mech are two different types of mechs.
Also having two mech fighters isn't a bad thing. We already have three superhero characters so why not two mechs.
To be honest, for what I saw of Planktom's Mechs, is mostly how I remember Calamitous's Mech working. I guess for Mech on Mech fights, I would rather Puma Loco, Skulker (technically) or even Robotsnail. Yeah, I won't mind Calamitous makes the cut, and I am probably off the mark and they can make him work, but yeah, not my first pick to double dip on the concept.
Plankton's mech has quite a few projectiles. Calamitous' mech doesn't have any projectiles with it being more focused on going up close and personal.
Why would you pick Arnold's grandma over Arnold himself
ask thadeus on twitter and watch him have another meltdown
They're afraid of Arnold in a three dimensional space. Cowards.
The real question is why the hell they would think Gerald would be a proper replacement. If it was Arnold and his Grandma, nobody would bate and eye, because Gertie is unironically the one character from the show who makes perfect sense for a fighting game, even if most people would take it as a joke. Still, not a character anyone was actively asking for, so she only works as a "complement". And because Gerald is clearly "Arnold at home", that complement isn't working. Again, you can bring up how "Arnold is a pacifist, it's against character to have him on a fighting game", and I could be willing to believe that. But throwing more characters to "make up" for his absence, only makes said absence more obvious. They should had stick with Helga only, and give those slots to other shows. Not even new ones, Zim, MLAATG and Rocko, they all could had used the extra character. Even Robotsnail as a rival to Reptard. And let me be clear, Gerald is so baffling as a replacement, that before the leak, there were a lot of memes and "dread", about Clyde from the Loud House being in, and yet if that would had been the case, opinions on that show aside, it would had still been far less controversial.
The guys who picked ghe roster are fricking moronic, that's the explanation
Why didn't they just use harold, monkey man or steely phil? Gerald is just as much of a pacifist as arnold.
I forget, did we ever see Monkey Man actually do anything?
I think it's a lame idea, Nigel already took up that niche
They didn't realize that wacky picks no one would expect only work the first time and are annoying after that
I wanna see the combo capabilities, all those new gameplay additions look like they'd be fun to tinker with.
>Enter Big Boy Pickles
The Sin Kids deserve some slots.
lupa is my favorite sin kid but lulu is sho cute!
>You can do it, yeah
>You can roll 'em, crush 'em, stomp 'em, beam 'em
>I do this with my mind
>That's why they obey me!
>And do you stammer, stammer, seeing my eye?
>You better see me, scurry, flee me, hurry
>You better fly!
>Ready, already
>Here we go
>Increase the pressure
>Ebb and flow
>I'm totally the top of every A-S-B, now!
>You need a shanty, shanty, shanty, a song!
>You oughta see me play my music, better follow along!
>You got it!
>LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA
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Please be a viable big boy
Please be a viable big boy
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>Western devs will never even come CLOSE to emulating Sakurai's work well
How does he do it?
For one, not basing attacks on memes and actually putting in the mcs of the games represented first with the exception of arms because no one gives a shit about springman
Everyone keeps saying the game is full of memes, but I honestly don't know any Nick memes outside of Spongebob, Jimmy Neutron and probably Garfield. What are the memes in all the other characters?
Isn't the whole game a meme? The whole idea of a Smash clone with a network's children's cartoon characters is so dumb and forced
Not really, there's been platform fighters for random IPs for years. You don't see people calling games like Digimon Rumble Arena, Dream Mix TV World Fighters, Jump Ultimate Stars, Cartoon Network Punch Time Explosion memes. Like, what IS a meme to you?
>Cartoon Network Punch Time Explosion
That was back when no one took cheapo licensed knockoffs with baby gag cartoons "seriously"
>baby gag cartoons
If you don't even like cartoons, why are you even in this thread?
The memes are the characters that have no powers or fighting history to draw moves from in a fighting games or
The Nicktoons can actually be taken seriously when they need to be. They're more than just memes. Too bad the devs can't see this.
Except the only memes are only from the Spongebob variety and Spongebob is a far less serious show. You keep exaggerating this shit but the majority of the first game's roster was played straight outside of the blatantly silly characters. Same shit for NASB 2, Jimmy is played straight.
You do know that SpongeBob characters can be taken seriously too right?
Like in the Nicktoons Unite serious, SpongeBob characters were taken just as seriously as everyone else and they worked better there than in NASB.
It's fricking moronic to force this idea that Spongebob characters need to be taken 100% serious even in games that aren't serious. Plenty of games even the Nicktoons Unite series did silly shit with them. Get over yourself, gaylord.
I never said 100%, don't shove words into my mouth.
And you'd be lying to yourself if you said the Nicktoons Unite series didn't take SpongeBob much more seriously than NASB does.
There's a difference between the games, dumbass. NASB is a non serious fighter that allows room for silly stuff while the Unite series is a more grounded crossover story. NASB better fits Spongebob's goofy episodic comedy structure.
Yeah no shit they're different games but that doesn't mean NASB should take it seriously, and it doesn't mean the game itself shouldn't take itself seriously.
Your views on the game just being a "non series fighter" is a disservice to the game and the IPs in it.
If a game can't be taken seriously then how can you expect it to succeed?
Not to mention the devs are taken it seriously, so you calling the game that is also a disservice to the devs as well.
But like you said, the game is "non serious" and a lot of people see it that way too, that's why there's little to no hype for the game. When people can't take it seriously then the public interest and good will starts to shrink.
How you see the game is exactly what's going to be the end of it.
No, it shouldn't. Demanding a game to be completely serious for every character despite Spongebob itself not being serious is moronic and I'm glad the wider fanbase from both NASB and Spongebob don't share your dumbass
>iS A DISSERVICE
grow up, homosexual. The IP itself doesn't present itself seriously and is primarily an episodic comedic. Apply this shit to Avatar and Danny Phantom but not Spongebob. Spongebob is malleable and can be anything you want.
>Are taken it seriously
Objectively wrong. The devs view it as a silly platform fighter and how lax they were with balance and what to do include in the game proves it.
>No, it shouldn't. Demanding a game to be completely serious for every character despite Spongebob itself not being serious is moronic and I'm glad the wider fanbase from both NASB and Spongebob don't share your dumbass
Again you're shoving words into my mouth.
I never said SpongeBob characters should be taken completely seriously, i'm saying they should be taken more seriously than how NASB is taking them.
>grow up, homosexual. The IP itself doesn't present itself seriously and is primarily an episodic comedic. Apply this shit to Avatar and Danny Phantom but not Spongebob. Spongebob is malleable and can be anything you want.
Even episodic shows can be taken seriously. In fact a lot of SpongeBob episodes are taken seriously. Band Geeks, Christmas Who, Friend or Foe, Texus, Nature Pants, etc.
And i find it funny how you say "Apply this to Avatar and Danny Phantom" even though i do do that and every time i do you're always there to complain about anything negative i have to say about how they're handled.
>Objectively wrong. The devs view it as a silly platform fighter and how lax they were with balance and what to do include in the game proves it.
Well if that's the case, and honestly i can believe you on that one, then maybe the devs should take the game more seriously for the public to take it seriously.
>I'm saying they should be taken more seriously
No the frick they shouldn't. If NASB is a goofy game then it works, Spongebob does not have the characters be all that serious so they don't need to be. As I said, they are malleable. They don't need to be serious if it works for the game's identity. Which it does.
>A lot of Spongebob episodes are taken seriously
And JUST AS MANY if not more outright are silly and have over the top plots. Spongebob isn't consistently seriously and it doesn't have to be depicted seriously to do the franchise seriously. Spongebob as a character changes drastically per episode with his competence wildly varying.
>You're always there to complain
Nope. I never argued for the Avatars' shitty movesets in NASB 1. I only opposed some of your shit arguments about Danny specifically because it's nonsensical. Specifically the wail being nerfed.
>Should take the game more seriously for the public to take it more seriously
It's a game based off childrens cartoons while copying Smash: a party game with graphics that'll never match Smash. It'll never be taken seriously and your insistence on projecting your preferences onto the masses makes you look moronic. Numerous beloved Nick games aren't taken seriously either.
*it doesn't have to be depicted seriously to do the franchise justice.
Ppl just be saying anything. I do agree that there's too many references that serve little utility. I.e. Toph belt as an attack, Danny ghost capturing move as an attack
Nigel himself is a meme as well as Catdog and Powdered Toast Man.
Dog even uses the super buff meme in their moveset.
Not to mention stages with connections to memes such as the Rugrats stage being based on the episode where this meme reaction image came from.
Dog's "super buff" isn't a meme, moron. It's from an actual episode and suited him as an attack.
Yeah no shit it's from an actual episode but it doesn't change the fact that it's a meme.
Seriously, what's wrong with you asshats and die hard defending the game?
What's wrong with dumbasses like you blowing harmless references out of proportion to push a narrative?
Have you not been keeping up with the conversation?
An Anon asked about what memes are used, all i did was give him examples.
You're really too sensitive to be on Ganker.
Except the buff dog is barely a meme and not worth bringing to the conversation. The conversation is trying to put "meme references" in a negative light.
Yeah because meme references are a negative.
Only if you're an oversensitive whiny b***h. The dog turning buff is a natural ability. That's like saying Kirby can't suck shit up because its associated with memes or Dedede can't be goofy because he's a target of memes, you disingenuous homosexual.
Mother fricker do you not know how disingenuous it is to compare Dog getting buff to Kirby's inhaling?
Dog's buff only happened in one episode, Kirby's inhaling is a core gameplay mechanic of his franchise since the very beginning of it.
And yeah, Dedede's a goofy guy, but even in Smash he's taken seriously with his goofyness only being there for a few taunt and victory animations.
No shit Dedede is taken serious. Have you played the Kirby games you moron? The home series consistently takes him serious as a worthy rival and friend to Kirby. While Catdog and Spongebob are episodic shows that focus on comedy than high stakes serious action.
>i-it was in one episode!!!!111
Cartoons are a different media from video games, Black person. You don't see anyone getting mad that say... Mario uses items that only shined in one or two games at best. It doesn't matter if its one episode, the Dog can become buff and that's an ability he can have due to the laws of toon physics.
>No shit Dedede is taken serious. Have you played the Kirby games you moron? The home series consistently takes him serious as a worthy rival and friend to Kirby. While Catdog and Spongebob are episodic shows that focus on comedy than high stakes serious action.
Are you fricking kidding me? Is this just some elaborate troll posting? I brought up Dedede being taken seriously because you used his goofyness to compare him to Dog getting buff.
I was just pointing out how ridiculous that comparison is.
>Cartoons are a different media from video games, Black person. You don't see anyone getting mad that say... Mario uses items that only shined in one or two games at best. It doesn't matter if its one episode, the Dog can become buff and that's an ability he can have due to the laws of toon physics.
You wanna use Mario as an example? OK then. There's only one move he has that's only from a single game and that's Fludd, and even then people are getting tired of Fludd being in his moveset. It was fine as a one time thing to incorperate the latest 3D Mario at the time into his moveset, but a lot of people can agree that Fludd overstayed his welcome. I personally think Fludd would be better as an item that any character can use.
And other than Fludd there is absolutely no other move Mario has that has only been used in just one or two games.
If you want a better comparison i can say that Dog getting buff would be like Mario using the gun he had in Yoshi's Safari.
>like Mario using the gun he had in Yoshi's Safari
Well...
That's an item, not apart of his moveset.
But i know you're joking so i'll give you a nice kek.
Real talk, hoping that since items will be in from the beginning this time, the characters will actually hold them properly.
Except it is comparable. Dog becoming buff is a canon ability in a show that isn't all that action based. They have to stretch if they want a canon accurate moveset and Catdog as a show acknowledges that Dog can become buff freely. Just because it got associated with memes doesn't mean it shouldn't be used or Dedede shouldn't be goofy because his goofiness is a meme.
>Dog getting buff would be like Mario using the gun
No it wouldn't. Because that's not a mainline game while the Dog getting bulky canonically happened in the main show. The majority don't give a shit if Fludd or one off powerups are used because if it fits and looks good, no one will mind. Just like how no one minds the Dog becoming buff. It's a funny ability that fits the cartoony vibes of NASB while it's something the Dog can actually do so it's not even an inaccurate meme portrayal. b***hing about this shit just makes you look like a nitpicking moron.
Well atleast with your logic if Waluigi gets added to Smash we can shit on Sakurai for adding a dumb meme character.
Here's the thing about Waluigi, if he gets in Smash at this point then that'd be fine due to the amount of fan favorite and staple Nintendo characters already in the game.
But when it comes to NASB, adding memes over the like of Zuko, Dib, Mr,. Krabs, etc would be like adding Waluigi before Wario.
To be fair, Azula isn't a meme character and the devs are adamant on not adding Arnold due to the pacifist shit.
Not to mention Smash has done things like that in the past with adding Min Min over Spring Man and Pythra over Rex. Also, Incineroar and Greninja where chosen due to moveset potential rather than actual demand/popularity.
Comparing Zuko to Springman and Rex is inaccurate consider he's pretty much the most popular character in the franchise and he too has moveset potential.
Azula isn't a meme yes but she was chosen due to tokenism.
Tbf the mc thing is also itself a drawback because with video game series the ever changing mcs means that Fire Emblem always gets the boring pick and Pokemon shill picks since they rep that gen. It's like if they included Power Rangers in one of these games so Red was always going to be added 20 times.
The Power Rangers fighter did actually try avoiding that. Still too many MMPR reps though.
Pokémon still has variety among those even if only maybe Ivysaur isn't one of the massively shilled species (and still Bulbasaur is common, just not the mid-evo form).
>no one gives a shit about springman
TAKE THAT BACK
I hate the whole "there is no face of arms" lie they say. Spring man is the face just like ryu, Ryu isn't even the most popular character in his own series just like spring man yet he is the face of it.
I'll never not be mad
No one cares. Spring Man is boring rubbish and Min Min was always the better choice. Cope.
you're both wrong and stupid
Cope harder. The only one that's wrong and stupid is you. Sakurai rightfully booted Spring Man and Rex for better characters.
your opinion is worth less to me than a shit under my boot
Right back at you, dipshit. But thankfully the creator of Smash shares my opinions. Keep coping.
Sakurai is a pretty shity dev honestly.
He really hates melee players and is still butthurt about people thrilled with brawl story mode so he said he won't do it ever again because people uploaded the cutscenes on youtube.
I won't even start discussing taste wars like waluigi, riddley, etc.
Even failures such as Nickelodeon or Multiversus tried to listen to their cummunity (even though they fricked up for entirely different reasons)
Sakurai is too casual focused, while Thad and Tony were too comp-heavy. What we need is a game that equally caters to both the casuals and the competitive scene. The 'Street Fighter 6' of platform fighters so-to-speak. The addition of all those new single player modes in NASB2 is a step in the right direction, and I hope Multiversus follows suit in it's full launch, since a story mode was datamined during the beta.
I find it odd that you're saying thay Sakurai doesn't listen when he added the vast majority of characters people wanted in Ultimate, including Ridley, K.Rool, Banjo and fricking Sora
Stop questioning that line of logic. It has been a lose battle from the start. No matter which character they add to Smash, as long as someone's favorite is still missing, there will always be a chorus signing how "inept of a Dev" Sakurai is.
I really don't care which one gets in as long as its fun to play. I sure as hell didn't know Ness or Fire Emblem until after I played them in smash. So I think literal whos, as long as they are unique are good addition.
I don't even care for Sora, but adding him without any of its game's elements due to disney it's kind of a bad idea. Also I absolutely hate the Mii's they are the contrary of fun and charismatic characters. Terrible idea for this game since you can't build with that.
Listen, You can hate as a player other players for whatever reason, but as a game maker, if there are people really supporting your game, you have to treat them respectfully at the very least.
>I don't even care for Sora, but adding him without any of its game's elements due to disney it's kind of a bad idea.
Literally the only thing they didn't add were PNGs of Mickey, Donald and Goofy because the cost to even use their image would have probably been WAY too much. Otherwise I'm not sure what other Disney elements you're talking about
Hey, I am the one treating the Melee players as the sweaty psychos they are. Sakurai himself already did as many compromises as he could allow to please that crew, while also still focusing on the actual millions of players who do play the new games, rather than the weird meta build around Melee. We are talking people who would seek out a broken controller just to keep up with that meta, there is no pleasing those guys.
To be fair, any sane person hates melee players. They deserve no respect nor sympathy.
>be sakurai
>create game that heavily relies on multiplayer
>make the worst online modes known to man with a shitty old net code
>refuse to accept that people want to play his "party game" on a competitive level
>avoid communication with fans at all cost
Your shitty meme sucks samegay
>Has been backpedaling since he utterly shit the bed with gameplay in Brawl
Only rosterBlack folk love this hack. Rivals, PM, and Slap City btfo of any Smash he's been involved in.
If you haven't watched the videos on his youtube channel you should check them out. He puts in a lot of work into details that people don't ever think about:
It doesn't feel like it changes much, but you definitely feel it when games DON'T include details like this, and that's why they always feel "off".
Want to frick:
>Jenny
>Lucy
>Azula
>April
>Lucy
Problem?
If Zim and Gir don't celebrate when they defeat the big bad because they now can have earth for themselves i will be pissed
/trash/ gays beings /trash/ gays
gay
Yeah
Calm down Remar.
???
Is that your cyber-boyfriend?
Fine, what about milf Lucy?
Ugly
If they seriously cut most of the characters and this is the full roster, then that's fricking stupid.
Why do you keep thinking they're going to cut characters?
Being devil's advocate, is due to the game being confirm to be rebuild almost from scratch (something that's far more evident in the gameplay showcase. Spongebob alone is a new character compared to his counterpart in the first game) and one dev not being upfront in regards whatever all characters are coming back or not. Still, the idea of "any character that hasn't been shown yet is cut" is just absurd, and to some extend already proven wrong in the case of Leo and Lincoln.
I gotta be honest with you, I'm pretty sure the whole "rebuilding the game from scratch" talk is just marketing BS. The game definitely looks like plays a lot better than the first one, but the devs could've easily just built upon and tweaked the already existing framework. Unless there's a new console generation or a new updated engine, that's how sequels usually work.
Nah, the devs have gone on record and showed dissatisfaction with how broken of a game NASB 1. The code is spaghetti, starting over was the best move and they clearly did. The foundation was too messy.
There has been no word of actual cut characters, and if anything, there is both compelling evidence as well as "leak talk" of not announced characters from the first game already making a comeback. Plus the circumstantial evidence of how poor of a marketing choice would be to show characters that are being cut, on your first trailer. In that sense, there are at most four or five characters that could be cut and that's it.
Dead on arrival
Are the devs making these threads? After the first game died a week after release I doubt anyone gives a shit about this
Fr fr, these threads feel so forced
This is now a Lucy thread.
Never forget.
How fricked are you, burgers?
I'm stuck betweek ghosts and furries
Actually i'm Canadian.
>michigan isn't the loud house
Crinfe
Royal Woods is legally distinct Royal Oak.
>shares shitty off model ugly crap
>gets shit on
>"B-BUH..."
kys
>Stupid, ugly-looking human ch*ldren!!
Since the Suck-O-Matic seems to be his grab, I wonder what Rocko's super will be.
The Cartoon Netowork characters feel more like they could work in a platform fighter than Nickelodeon imo
That's what PTE and MVS are for.
But the former sucks while the latter barely has CN characters aside from Adventure Time, Steven Universe and probably PPG
Whatever happens with Multiversus When/if comes out of the vault, the idea may be neat, but honestly, is to overwhelming. The pool of characters is so big, that getting your actual favorite is like winning the lottery, with just about the same chances. Like, Smash was getting to big for some, and even then the amount of Videogame characters that fit the "Smash requirements" is fairly limited, even with third party includes. That's partly why I am rooting for Nick Brawl to take off here. Nothing against Multiversus, but roster oddities aside, it's easier to get invested on a Nicktoons crossover, than in the "anything under the Moon" crossover Multiversus offers, at least for me.
Understandable, though having a large pool to pull from does make for some fun (even if ridiculous) speculation.
For real, Multiversus suffers from having too many characters too choose from. You are going to have to wait for a while to have your favorite character in the game. Multiversus is just not a game that's designed to pump out multiple characters.
Don't forget how the devs didn't want to name the game after WB because they want to add characters outside of WB.
Which is fricking stupid. Smash fans only wanted more 3rd party characters because we were about to hit the d list of characters.
We haven't even remotely hit that with Multiversus
To be fair, people keep asking for 3rd party guest characters in almost every fighting game nowadays. Along with Smash, there's also Tekken, Soul Calibur and Mortal Kombat who've also done such a thing. Why else do you think people keep asking for someone like Goku or Shrek in so many of these games? Also, people don't realize how big WB actually is, they only know WB through their more popular movies and cartoons, and even then there was confusion.
It's surprising how many times I've seen people say "Cartoon Network is owned by WB!?"
Theres no problem asking for 3rd party characters. I'm talking about the quantity of 3rd party picks. Ultimate was notorious for this.
Yeah, that's true. Square Enix really did not need four reps. As for Multiversus, if I remember correctly, before the devs scrubbed the game's code of references to future characters, one of those future characters was Eleven from Stranger Things, a Netflix show. It also probably isn't a coincidence that Omni Man and Homelander are being added to Mortal Kombat, those two characters were some of the more popular 3rd party picks people wanted in MVS outside of Walter White and Goku.
I'm sure the devs would want some Disney characters in their too as they pitched it to them as a Disney game first as proven by Hulk's data.
Same with Shonen Jump as proven by the Naruto data.
I think the Naruto files were just references for the Ninja girl character from the game's previous iteration, Battle Bound. Her moveset did look pretty neat though, I do hope they reuse it for a future character.
>Square Enix really did not need four reps
They only have three, Sora is owned by Disney.
MS, SEGA, and Capcom all have characters/series with varying degrees of association
That means nothing, Sora is officially owned by Disney, regardless of Square Enix developing the Kingdom Hearts games. Disney can say no to any of their pitches for games at any given time.
Fun fact, Sora was supposed to be the final DLC for Smash 4, and Disney was actually OK with that. It was Nomura who rejected it because at the time he couldn't find a way to make Smash canon to Kingdom Hearts.
>It was Nomura who rejected it because at the time he couldn't find a way to make Smash canon to Kingdom Hearts.
And this is why KH is a clusterfrick.
I really wanna know what a Nickelodeon Kingdom Hearts would be like.
I'm sure it wouldn't be as convoluted.
The Nicktoons Unite games are basically that.
>Nicktoons Unite + The World Ends With You
Disney meets Final Fantasy makes sense because they're both whimsical feeling, so Nick and TWEWY would make sense because a lot of Nick shows take place in urban/suburban settings, and TWEWY is literally set in an alternate Akihabara district. Not sure where to fit Avatar or Tak, but not every Disney IP in KH is fantasy so it doesn't matter too much.
>Why else do you think people keep asking for someone like Goku or Shrek in so many of these games
Most of the time it appears to be for the lolz
WB gave Multiversus access to all of their shows, games, movies, comics, and whatever else. Already the team has to cast a wide net and try to hook in some big ones but with the possibilities this limitless I'm afraid that they won't please everyone and just feel like they're pulling names from a hat. At least with Nicktoons and Nintendo there's some expectations to be held given that the history isn't as long or vast as WB.
Can you explain why and how?
Not that Anon, and I don't fully agree with him. But it is true a lot of early Nicktoons were focused on relatively "ground to earth kids". As in, Dough, Hey Arnold, Rugrats, Rocket Power, As told by Ginger, even the Wild Thornberrys (Talking with animals isn't the fanciest of super powers). Now compare these shows with the over exaggerated Slapstick Prowers of Ed, Edd & Eddy or Johny Bravo (two of the most "down to earth" Cartoons, and with heavy quotetions there) and sure, a LOT of Nicktoons require more creative liberties to work in these sort of games, while Cartoon Networks just have an easy job. I am not saying Nick can work, they have their fare share of Slapstick or actual Action themed shows to make the roster work, and making all those "regular kids" work isn't impossible. But objectively speaking, CN does have a bigger and easier pool to work with.
Fair enough.
Most of those down to earth show are Klasky Csupo, slice of life shows were their thing.
This makes me wonder why Nick never teamed up with another studio to make more Nicktoons like they did with KC.
They kinda did in the 00s with Frederator, but then that stopped after a while.
Yeah, it's kinda funny if you think about it. How different would things be if WB still owned Nick. Would it have evolved into something like Cartoon Network?
I think Cartoon Network wouldn't exist, instead every CN show would be Nickelodeon along with all the Nick shows we have in this timeline.
This would pretty much give WB a monopoly over kids TV with their only rival being Disney.
Honestly, with how big 90s Nick and 90s CN were, WB probably could've easily beaten Disney in the TV department. Now that also brings another question... What would Viacom have become WITHOUT Nick (also MTV and VH1)?
All Viacom would have is Paramount and Star Treck.
Those are fine but on their own i think Viacom would have been bought up by either WB or Disney years go.
WHERE MY COUSIN SKEETER CHADS AT???
They said no live-action characters, but I don't know where puppets fall into that whole shindig.
Vendetta DLC when?
I feel like a character from the series would have to place atleast in the Top 10's for Nick to even consider greenlighting their inclusion
For me it's Charlotte
That reminds me, what were the results of recent character polls?
I haven't seen any new polls, but from a previous thread, this would be an update on the most spread poll, with the confirmed characters removed. As a side note, the top three remains the same
Interesting picks, though it's weird how Rudy & Snap are represented as both separate and duo characters. MVS polls also had a similar problem with Mordecai & Rigby.
Charlotte was an easy kill
If Vendetta try do to kill her with her own hands
I do too but I'm mainly waiting for the moveset spotlights to talk about it. Spongebob in the gameplay showcase already looked infinitely better than how he did in NASB1 and it's just making me wanna see all the other characters. I hope they changed his down special sonce the bite felt super forced and was probably just an excuse for them to add another meme
put my boy in
put him in
Isn't LazyTown owned by WB now?
Beaverchads we won
Is this the most underappreciated 90s Nick cartoon?
Either that or Kablam.
So what did he mean by this?
What dont you understand?
I guess the way he worded it is confusing but i don't really understand him bragging about using such a mechanic while agreeing with a contradicting viewpoint.
He isnt bragging about it though he is just explaining. He can agree it can be done well but does not want it in his game.
>"no shield pokes because that's a dumb mechanic"
>then clarifies saying shield poke is good
do you see it now?
All this talk about Multiversus reminds me of a fun fact.
Nickelodeon used to be a Time Warner company from it's creation in 1979 as until it, along with MTV and VH1, was sold to Viacom in 1986 for $685 million.
WB wouldn't have interest in kids TV again until Kids' WB in 1995.
Another fun fact, Butch Hartman originally wanted to pitch Fairly OddParents to Hanna Barbara but they rejected him so he went to Nickelodeon instead.
In this timeline FOP is Nick's second biggest show alongside SpongeBob but if HB picked it up then the show could have been Cartoon Network's mascot series rivaling SpongeBob.
Im still surprised they haven't done an Nicktoons RPG game
Post final smashes
I know his down special is already the jackhammer, but I could see his super attack having him do some crazy jackhammer tricks while KOing people in the process. Either that or have the suck-o-matic suck everyone in and then either shoot them back out or explode.
>have the suck-o-matic suck everyone in
Canonical vore ending
Not one of Plankton's better ideas.
Crazy idea, but what if Plankton's super was a counter attack? When the opponent hit's Plankton during it's activation, it shows the opponent dropping a penny into the robot's coinslot. And then after a few seconds, KABOOM!
That would be a pretty neat detail, but have we ever had counter final smashes before? All I remember is Ryu and Ken's changing depending on if they're close to an opponent.
Nope, but considering the slime meter practically makes NASB feel more like an actual fighter, I could see the devs experimenting with the applications of each super attack.
Honestly each super attack is most likely just going to be short animations for each character.
Vendetta! Vendetta! Vendetta!
I wonder how far you can take the Roman Cancel gimmick they've added, could be pretty fun.
Is it just me or does this type of NASB fan art just feel sad now.
It's like that one image of Mario crying over NASB 1 only for it to age poorly.
This type of hype just comes off as sad at this point.
Which character should a /peegaming/ enthusiast chad play?
Started watching some Invader Zim. Totally on board with Gir. I forgot how adorable he was.
Seeing this unofficial Hot Topic mascot again made me remember the damnedest thing.
>video recorded at some kind of Invader Zim-themed convention panel
>girl in a Dog Gir costume runs up on stage
>takes it off, revealing a Robot Gir cosplay underneath
>starts doing a fricking striptease while bouncing on a yoga ball decorated like the pig and the Doom song blares over the speakers
>flashes a silver-painted tiddy at the audience and runs off
I can't find it anymore and it pisses me off because I can't verify if I'm remembering it right or not.
Well it shouldn't be too hard considering there's only two Invadercons.
homie I need that footage so bad
Sweaty sex with Korra!
Now that the hype is dead does anyone wanna discuss the state of Nickelodeon?
Paramount doesn't want new IPs, they just want to do the same stuff over and over again, as well as do more licensed properties. And there's a good chance this might happen to the entire entertainment industry. 'Creativity' run by greedy suits and the algorithm. 'Nick' as you know it has been long gone, and the same can be said for a lot of things.
So when Hollywood burns what will happen to all the IPs and will replace Hollywood?
A lot of the suits have been in cahoots with the silicon valley guys, working on AI stuff to do all the concepting, writing, and voice acting. It's no coincidence that a lot of those guys are also trying to perfect AI art and video as well, those tech guys are going to want to make money selling it to greedy, lazy studios who don't want to hire actual people. Hell, you already got game publishers pushing out composers for AI music, as well as implementing AI model creation in more recent engines.
It's kinda funny, back in the day we'd always thought that robots would do all the hard work so that we could have time to be creative, but reality seems to be flipping that around. Either way, things are going to look very different a decade from now, and I'm sure that's a good thing.
Different how?
The only difference i can see being a good thing is if the overuse of AI at the expense of real people will cause a collapse of the entertainment industry so it can rise from the ashes better than it is now.
In this sinking global economy, with those stubborn CEOs? If the entertainment industry goes down anytime soon, it's gonna stay down for a while. This isn't like gaming crash of '83, every form and medium of entertainment will be effected by this. The best case scenario of such a situation is that it gives independent creators more wiggle room to do their own thing, but there's always a chance the gov will try to regulate all of that stuff too, they've already been trying to do that for a while now with stuff like COPPA, and all that's lead up to is shit like egotistical streamers and 'Elsagate'. Might fare a bit better for indie games, but I have a gut feeling ESRB will try to do something stupidly strict once all the AAA games die out.
>and I'm NOT sure that's a good thing.
I always keep forgetting that word.
What's especially pathetic is that they're already working on another Fairly Oddparents reboot right after the live action show flopped so hard they took it off Paramount+.
That sitcom actually won a Kid's Choice Award despite not even being on Paramount+.
That shit is rigged.
Also, that black girl need new hair, it's not good to look at.
It has been rigged since Avatar won over Redditbob that one time
>redditbob
Assist trophy.
>Chadow the hedgehog
Keep going
ENOUGH, GRANDPA
>Using the same old trash can image
KNEEL, SHITDOW THE EDGEHOG
It's all fun and games until they put Shadow in to promote Sonic Movie 3.
>Hey Arnold gets 3 reps over Rugrats, Zim, Real Monsters and Garfield
Arnoldchads we won
BOBBY WILL SAVE NASB2!
I support it purely for 2 bobs team
Go back to /trash/ Loudhousegays. We don't want you guys here.
ember being in the game makes me think misty has a chance as dlc
Misty before Vexus would just be another kick in the nuts.
Krackus for NASB3
I remember vexus being kind of reduced to comic relief after the movie, am I remembering wrong? she was obsessing over Jenny on a trash planet or something
Yes but that's not comic relief, it's used as a tragic display of just how far she has fallen after Jenny's ultimate defeat over her. She hit rock bottom and it broke her.
even if this game flops and only the usual community members play it I'm gonna be THE Azula main
gotta represent villains