The Angry Beavers are Nick’s answer to Pyra/Mythra in Smash. Who’s maining them?
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I am not watching this video. the guy narrating made me close it in two seconds.
Okay so here’s a TLDW for people who think the narrator is bad for some reason.
>Daggett is the light combo character while Norbert is the heavy hitter with more range
>They can swap with Down-B during combos but like PT & Aegis, you can choose to play only one if you prefer.
>Neutral & Side Specials are assist attacks, you can use them normally or you can swap during the combo and control the other beaver during the attack.
>Daggett has the DK Up-B and Norbert’s recovery acts like Marth’s
So with all that said, how are we feeling about them? Are they gonna be as good as Aegis or even better? I personally cannot wait to main them as someone who used Pythra in the past.
ty anon
Eh, quite lame honestly.
How are they lame, they're the most in depth character in the game. Did you watch the gameplay?
Nice, beavers are based.
>you can use them normally or you can swap during the combo and control the other beaver during the attack.
neat. The whole kit seems pretty well designed.
Holy shit they look insane
is this narrator actively trying to be more annoying than th*ddeus
They look pretty busted, i like it
hope beaverbros buy this game
gaygeus was worse, but they should've just put an actual good narrator here.
NTA but the roster is a lesser important thing in a crossover fighting game when you have to put actual good gameplay for it, not to mention the ammount of content to keep it alive.
Exactly. Multiversus had a lot of promise with literal genre defining icons in their game but it didn't stop the game from losing players. Hell, by this metric PTE should've had resurgence or never fail to begin with if roster was all that mattered.
Multiversus and to an extent Tony had no experience working on platform fighters and the game shows. homie was using default unity engine hitboxes on release.
I don't know why you're bringing Punch Time Explosion into this when that situation is different.
That game came out years ago during a time when platform fighters weren't as big and couldn't ride the wave of Ultimate's success.
The game also had no marketing. It was sent out to die.
Doesn't matter, should've had a resurgence is roster is all that matters. It was a bad game and died because of it.
How do you think it could get a resurgence years later when the game is hard to come across?
Emulation?
Does that even exist?
And is emulation a legal mine field?
Melee managed
Multiversus died due to lack of single player modes and low amount of characters. Let's be real, the roster of multiversus is nowhere near its potential, despite having a decent roster base.
Its low amount of chars were a non-issue, it had as much as the average fighting game. It was the online and frustrating gameplay.
The roster is important to generate interest. The gamplay keeps the game alive sure but if there is not enough interest on it, it will die quickly. It happened to MvCI, although that game also had presentation issues.
MvCI literally had everything going against it not just roster. People won't buy a game that looks and seemingly play like ass.
Don't act like the roster didn't get the most backlash.
Even Ganker shit on the roster the most.
The roster wasn't even it's biggest issue. The game just looked like shit.
MVCI failed because of the roster.
No X-Men along with the bad PR responce to it killed the game more than anything.
More than the gameplay (That was actually said to be the most fun by reviewers) and the ugly Chun-Li.
>MvCI gameplay was good
It may have been good, but UMvC3's gameplay was better. Three characters + 1 support downgraded to 2 characters and no support was an absolute moronic decision.
Two characters that you could tag in freely to basically make your own assist along with stone that changes combos was a ton of fun. Personally think it led to more creative combos compared to the 3 characters of UMVC3
And yet compgays still went with DragonBall FighterZ, despite it having 6 less characters on launch and only covered a single franchise.
>NTA but the roster is a lesser important thing in a crossover fighting game when you have to put actual good gameplay for it, not to mention the ammount of content to keep it alive.
mvci after all the patches is considered the most balanced versus game ever made, no one cares though becuase roster is the most important thing
No one cares because it's also an ugly looking trash game. It also hurt its reputation way too badly for patches to save it.
this
I love the beavers, but I cannot listen to this homosexual for more than a few seconds.
He is succeeding
They're going to get nerfed within a month
So they're a dumbed down version of Afi Galu?
looks like kung fu Panda
What game is this now? It re-released and changed names too many times for me to tell.
what's with the teabagging?
Can't wait for Halloween, that's when they show in Ganker that horror themed doujin that was sold in Japan
>western cartoon doujin
what in the frick
a doujin is a doujin
At least it's not gwen tennyson or something
Do japs actually like this show?
>horror-themed Angry Beavers doujin
What the frick
I'm so in
You're shifting the goalposts. Sandy being cut doesn't mean Spongebob as an IP is being treated bad, you're a greedy piece of shit to try and seriously use Sandy when Squidward and Plankton made Spongebob's rep BETTER than it was in the first game.
"I only used the words poor and bad" which is still fricking moronic anon.
>So how exactly does Multiversus crossover interactions hurt the game?
Read, dumnbass. Read what I'm saying instead of shifting the goalposts. Not once did I say they hurt the game, but they don't help it either. Interactions mean nothing, they're a cherry on top not a requirement. It being there doesn't mean your IP is being treated bad, that's a literal nitpick, homosexual.
It literally does matter. Everyone wants a game that's fun to play with a good presentation otherwise MVS would've still had a lot of players in and out.
*It not being there.
If the character isn't popoular ot cared about then they aren't a necesity, loads of fighting games cut characters no one gave a shit about. If Lincoln Loud isn't as cared for as others then it only makes sense to prioritize what people ask for and what. "El Tigre isn't an icon" and yet he had more people excited and caring for him than Lincoln Loud ever did. It's moronic to make a big stink over Lincoln when I doubt you cared for him too.
bruh
Imagine being such a sore loser that you feel the need to reply to people from a dead thread
just to feel like you won something.
I mean he is right about one thing. Gameplay matters, even to casuals. Why do you think Multiversus failed?
>"Sore loser"
Frick off, I had something to do and came back by the time the thread archived.
You're still petty enough to not let it go and instead wait for another thread just to bring back a dead discussion.
I didn't have to wait, this thread was already here anon.
Because everyone's been saying it felt good, moron. Everyone that's played the game has confirmed the game felt great to play even people who weren't as invested into the series like TKBreezy admitted the gameplay's good. Even looking at the gameplay mechanics, there's been a lot of thought put into the gameplay even more than the first game.
>Roster needs to be shit
Never said that, gaylord. I said that roster is important but not as important as other things. Especially when the roster is still filled with a lot of appealing characters in NASB 2, Spongebob as a franchise alone will do heavy lifting.
Imagine being this heated about a shitty smash clone lmao
1. Someone needs to punch the narrator in the face
2. These stages are looking bare bones and compy.
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i wanna rewatch danny phantom but my undying hate for butch hartman scares me into thinking i'll taint my memories of the show.
It still holds up pretty well for the first two seasons for a villain of the week kind of show and it peaks with the Dark Danny episodes.
Get the frick out when that third one starts though, it takes a pretty hard nosedive from there.
Seperate the art from the artist bro. Also make sure to watch the pre-Poof episodes of FOP.
Yeah i rewatched the special with future evil Danny and it was really good
Which Louds do you think we’ll get as DLC?
>thinking you'll get any louds for DLC
>when the devs don't care about the show
>and they cut the main character
moron mindset, imagine being this delusional
Bobby?
>Inbreds.
>constant tbagging in trailer
am i missing something
It’s funny bro, they did it in Plankton’s spotlight too.
they do it for cutting purposes they are morons.
The frick is this shit?
I thought that cheap and shitty licensed games were dead.
Didn't the first one release without any sound?
My dude you can't be serious shilling for this shit.
how about you watch the video and leave a like
How about you suck my dick
There is sound and characters do talk, just not to each other.
if i get the game i am
at least in this game theres more then one character i want to play as unlike mutiversus
(my secondary is definitely gonna be el tigre )
waiting to see if the on-disc dlc rumor is true before I hype myself up for beavers
There is no on-disc DLC character.
He's talking about costume DLC.
Regardless of the fact that melee has a comp scene, Smash was and is supposed to be a party game first and foremost. These devs making their own smash-likes need to stop taking everything so damn seriously and allow for fun and randomness. It's like trying to make a Mario Kart-like but not having any items or all the stages just being simple loops.
They can do both, they shouldn't copy Smash's dumbass approach of completely neglecting an audience just because they "aren't fun", those are still potential customers at the end of the day.
That “audience” is a minority of the fan base. Most of these Smash clones cater to them and they all flop. Competitive Smash was born out of a game with goofy items and stages with lava. People competed because they found the game fun and it evolved from there. These are skipping the step where people play the game because it’s fun. Also, Melee players are autistic and will never stop playing Melee, so making a game for them is a great way to go bankrupt
the minority has kept the game relevant for over 20 years. notice how each new smash game comes and goes with no real fanfare, and all these smash clones don't understand that people play smash for the bing bing wahoos not because of items/stages, if smash never had items in the first place it would be just as popular as it is now
So out of touch and delusional.
he has a point, gameplay shared online hardly ever has items on and is played 1v1 way more often than not, even for footage recorded that is played locally
yeah casual elitist talk so much shit yet you never see them play the game like they say they do but just play 1v1 anyways hell look at smashies complaining about multiversus being 2v2 focused
Because they're full of shit. They talk all this shit but PTE and MVS are objective proof that exclusively focusing on casual shit will never work.
Punch Time Explosion was years ago before the internet got as big as it is now and it was sent out to die with no marketing.
Multiversus didn't fail and is coming back and all the casual appealing is what brought people to the game although people later found out that the game was more competitive leaning than what you're trying to make it out to be.
NASB1 didn't have marketing either
>the minority has kept the game relevant for over 20 years
lmao
>relevant
Among a few thousand people out of millions.
>>the minority has kept the game relevant for over 20 years
Oh you mean the autistic manchildren? The same ones that royally fricked up actual Nintendo support? Because they couldn't follow some basic guidelines, set by Nintendo. Then REEEEEE when Nintendo realizes, that capitulating to children gets you nowhere
I think you underestimate how many Melee players actually want a new competitive platform fighter. Even though there are a few artists who refuse to play anything else (BBB, Bbats, PPMD) there are dozens who are burned out and are practically begging for a new competitive platform fighter (Plup, Mang0, iBDW, Mew2king, ect.)
>They cater to them and flop
This shitty narrative needs to die. Any plat fighters that flopped did so for reasons unrelated to "Melee players bad". NASB 1 appealing to a different audience at the same time is the only reason it escaped the shovelware pipeline and gave further exposure to a game 90% of its audience would've never bought otherwise.
>This shitty narrative needs to die. Any plat fighters that flopped did so for reasons unrelated to "Melee players bad".
Look at every single platform fighter and you’ll never see two things 1)Items or any sort of power up and 2)Nothing other than static stages. Every. Single. One if them. And in the case of Nickers, they explicitly tried to cater to the Melee crowd when they showed of shit like wavedashing. Yet every time these games just go out and die. This game has constant updates and added voice acting in, yet it didn’t matter because everyone dropped it. And do you know why. Because it was just emulating Smash and all those people went right back to Smash. The only thing that helped Nickers is some claim that “Nintendo doesn’t support us.” None of these games realize Smash is more than 1v1 Fox Only FD. They lack anything that makes Smash fun and interesting. Even now, they are just designing Smash characters as if they were Nick characters. They lack any identity. None of these games appeal to casuals in any way. They always skimp out on the extra modes Smash has or the variety of stages Smash has. And they fail. It’s why Icons and Brawlout failed too. They all fail. Ultimate sold 30 million units and somehow no one can get a fraction of that? So no, it’s not some other scapegoat. These games fail because they don’t understand why people play Smash in the first place.
>1)Items or any sort of power up
It's common sense. Imagine randomly spawning super meter pickups in Street Fighter. Probably the most cancerous mechanic ever.
>2)Nothing other than static stages
Absolutely no one likes cheap KOs from broken platforms. Do you know anyone who enjoys maps like Brinstar or Norfair where the lava can just wienerblock you? Or maps like Mute City where randomly spawning cars can punt you off the stage?
Mute City with items on is peak smash
Then you don't understand why people like Smash. You are probably the same homosexual that cries about the Blue Shell? Would Mario Kart be better without the Blue Shell. No, because the reason it exist is to make the game more dynamic. It's not fun if Fred, who has mastered every track just gets in 1st and wins. Sometimes having something that can frick you out of no where can be fun. Because (and maybe you want to sit down because this is going to be a lot to take in) people don't play games to win tournaments at the local Gamestop in the Mall. They play games to have fun. And crazy shit you don't expect is fun. Hell, Team Fortress 2 has random crits. People b***h about it, but the whole reason they are there is because it makes the game dynamic. The developers said as much. Its cool when you get a crit rocket and kill like three guys. Having the game be too predictable gets old.
>Or maps like Mute City where randomly spawning cars can punt you off the stage
This is the other thing about you stupid tourneygays I hate. You claim to be good but somehow eat shit when the stage isn't flat. You know there are cars on this stage. Maybe don't stand where they are coming. Maybe don't sit in the lava. Like items, stages with hazards are interesting because they affect all players. You can use these to your advantage too which is another thing that makes the game more fun. You are probably one of those idiots who sits on the train tracks on Well
shit bait
>Is it possible that people don't agree with me?
>No, everyone agrees with me and those people are just baiting
>You are probably the same homosexual that cries about the Blue Shell? Would Mario Kart be better without the Blue Shell. No, because the reason it exist is to make the game more dynamic. It's not fun if Fred, who has mastered every track just gets in 1st and wins.
Not that anon, but making a comparison with a racing game is unfair because it is a completely different genre. Also, there are plenty of successful racing games without items. Trackmania is one example.
>Hell, Team Fortress 2 has random crits. People b***h about it, but the whole reason they are there is because it makes the game dynamic.
Again, different genre. And it's ironic that you bring a shooter up when Valorant and CS:GO dominate the genre.
>This is the other thing about you stupid tourneygays I hate.
Why do you hate tourneygays so much?
>Just git gud talk
Despite popular belief, the better player usually wins regardless of items being turned on or not. It's just not fun to play with items in a platform fighter. Stage hazards are a similar venue, but are much more debatable depending on the stage.
>It's just not fun to play with items in a platform fighter. Stage hazards are a similar venue, but are much more debatable depending on the stage.
Despite what you may think, most people play with items and a variety of stages. This goes back to what I said before. Smash is a massive success and its clones flop. If it wasn’t a big deal these games had flat stages and no items, why do they all, and I mean more than Nick and Multiverses, fail while Smash successes. It’s like none of you realize that Smash is played as a party game. It’s the in between of Mario Kart and a typical fighting game. But no one can figure this out so we get flop after flip after flop. These kind of post are pure cope.
>You can compare them they are a different genre
This is a fricking moronic cope.
>Smash is a massive success and its clones flop. If it wasn’t a big deal these games had flat stages and no items, why do they all, and I mean more than Nick and Multiverses, fail while Smash successes.
Oh frick off with this "Platform fighters can only be party games" nonsense. Smash's success had nothing to do with items. Stages, sure (even though some of them are pure cancer even to casuals). Smash could take out every last item in the next game as long as they add enough content to compensate.
>It’s like none of you realize that Smash is played as a party game.
True. Sakurai even hates the competitive scene.
>It’s the in between of Mario Kart and a typical fighting game.
Mario Kart is dependent on items while Smash is not. Not to mention, if compgays wanted to play a racing game, there are many better alternatives.
>But no one can figure this out so we get flop after flip after flop.
Have you ever heard of Brawlhalla? Also, if we are talking about NASB and Multiverses, both games had severe issues outside of whatever casual experience you wanted.
>Cope Cope Cope
I'm not the one getting into arguments in a thread for a game I don't like.
Not that Anon but if items aren't important then why are there item showcases in Smash directs?
>True. Sakurai even hates the competitive scene.
I'd also hate those smelly autists if I were him
>Imagine randomly spawning super meter pickups in Street Fighter
There is a difference between a fighting game and a party game dude. Plus, even fighting games have bullshit side modes like Heroes and Heralds from MvC, Extreme Battle from SF6, Tekken Ball from Tekken and all the bullshit that was in classic MK.
No excuse to not have wacky and funny shit in your party game.
dont forget they made a big deal about tekken ball coming back in tekken 8
It died because it was a bad game, many people tried to stick to it as a side game but it was flawed and broken with updates taking too long to maintain interest. By your dumbass narrative Brawlhalla would've failed too but it didn't and even MVS was successful for a time. Rivals did well and Slap did well. Games only do badly for reasons outside of Melee. Frick this stupid ass narrative.
This anon speaks the truth. It's what really hurt Multiversus as well. Want to use an item? Either play as Bugs Bunny or hope someone else plays as him. Want an interesting stage? When you destroy the two cars in batcave or speakers in Cromulons or trees in tree fort, you're fighting on a regular platform. Throne Room and the Court tried to change things up but because The Court was taken off of 1v1 and 2v2, it might as well not have existed.
Nah, you guys are overblowing the importance of items in these games. Literally, nobody I know in real life actually plays with items, casual or not. Not to mention, people hate assist trophies in Smash because all they do is deconfirm their favorite fighter.
Multiversus has so many problems, and items was barely one of them. The shitty online was probably the worst offender, but mechanically the game was worse than Ultimate, and it didn't have a bloated roster to compensate for it.
Because you surround yourself with people who agree with you and reject anyone who goes against your views.
>Not to mention, people hate assist trophies in Smash because all they do is deconfirm their favorite fighter.
Yeah, they're hated for screwing over potential fighter, not because they're items.
If this is true then NASB would have never gotten items in the first place, especially due to fan demand.
It wasn't really fan demand that got items into NASB1. Items were always planned and were in the files from the very beginning. They had to cut them at launch and add them in a later patch similarly to Garfield and Shredder.
nasb and brawlhalla are the only non smash platfighters I know that actually do have items
nasb didn't have items at launch
Multiversus had items but they were restricted to silly mode and ffa.
That audience isn't what made Ultimate sell over 30mil.
And 90% of that audience won't play a game that plays and looks like shit lmao.
define
>party game
>allow for fun and randomness
this game looks fun without items though, I can already tell you aren't the audience for this game, if you played enough smash with items you would realize how bullshit it is to ONLY play with items, I can already tell you don't play enough smash and you wouldn't have played enough of this game either, so this game is not for you
I've played plenty of Smash. Items make the matches more fun. If you weren't a tryhard, you'd know this.
But if you really think the game isn't for me, then I suppose I shall just take my money elsewhere.
how is playing a game being a tryhard? just admit you don't play enough
Stop being a tryhard and play only using ganondorf in paluetenas temple
You tourneygays make up less than 1% of Smash's audience.
I'm going to fricking remind you who the main audience of Nickelodeon is. Protip it's not you.
Or like when Blizzard tried to force the comp scene(WoW, Hearthstone, SC2, etc).
The last game had items. This game will probably have them and it has a roguelike adventure mode.
Casualgay tourists can go frick off
Poor lad
Think we'll get another garfield character?
No.
The devs are biased for anything pre-SpongeBob so it's more likely than you think.
Jon is likely as shit, these devs would probably give him a borf star and gorefield themed moveset however
I see what this guy's doing, he's trying to do a Norbert impression.
He shouldn't do that. He's not the voice actor.
This took me much longer to watch than it should have from the second hand embarrassment. I should have just muted it. For some reason he couldn't tell when to use they and he or maybe that was the script he was handed. I get that they are a team and do team attacks but it still sounded really awkward in this context.
They look insanely fun to play, but holy shit they look like they are going to be busted
Every character looks busted. That's how they make them look appealing.
This game is ignoring the elephant in the room being how interest for the first game completely dropped dead a week after launch. In what world do they think a sequel is gonna do better? It's literally just the same exact shit but now with voice acting that was promised for the original.
Because it's not the exact same shit, use your eyes. There's actual modes, the presentation looks leagues better, basic shit like alts are day 1, the playerbase won't be fractured anymore thanks to day 1 crossplay, movesets are unique so no one plays the same, etc. NASB didn't have a single moveset as creative as NASB2 beavers.
Player base can't be fractured if there wasn't one to begin with
Except there was, there's documented history of Playstation, Switch, and Xbox players getting fricked since there was no crossplay for NASB 1's primary audience of PC players. And players are coming back to try it day 1 again.
NASB1 had Catdog who was also a stance character.
Not only that but NASB2 is also rushed like NASB1 was, it just has a bigger budget.
I might be the first to say this, but NASB2 coming out this year might be the best release that could happen with them. If they took another year to release the game, they would have had to deal with Multiversus and a potential Smash reveal in the fall. That sounds way worse than releasing now with 11 less characters.
>Smash reveal
????
>Not only that but NASB2 is also rushed like NASB1
The devs had nearly two years of dev time wworking on NASB 2.
Yet, they had to cut 11 characters. Why?
Apparently, the devs where always planning on cutting characters. Rumon has it that Hugh was a last-minute cut (Similar to Mewtwo and Plusle and Minun in Brawl).
>Scrap Lincoln
>Scrap Shredder to make him a boss
This guy is so fricking stupid. No wonder his shit fails
>Catdog
And the beavers were fricking easy or what?
I'll assume he's implying that their conjoined self makes it more difficult to program than the standard humanoid template but even then it's easy since the bottom's arms are usually the "legs" anyway.
Why not make Shredder into a playable character and be a boss?
They revamped old characters movesets and wanted to add more unique chrarcters. Btw this is my guess.
A poorly executed stance character that played the same as all the other NASB 1 chars.
It's a licensed game dude. Nickelodeon probably wants another one, make a few bucks and then let it die.
The ones that want to keep it alive are the devs because they are delusional.
probably? they made 3 kart racer games, and kart racer 1 and 2 sold less then nasb did combined. They want another for sure. Nick doesn't care about quality the devs have 2 years to make a game and thats it. I can't wait for nasb 3 where they start from scratch again because they said they won't use unity anymore
>I can't wait for nasb 3 where they start from scratch again because they said they won't use unity anymore
Did they really say this?
Why would you do this when you know Nick suits are going to make you start working on the next game right after this one?
because thaddeus is a fricking moron, he put gerald in because he wanted to say look smash doesn't have a black character but we do.
>boo hoo people I don't like play the game so I'm not gonna play it
cancer.
which is funny since Smash does have black characters, not even jokes anymore like DK an G&W but skins of Inkling and Villager are black
but yeah is clear that they are making a big deal about Gerald being a token Black, though he is a main character of Hey Arnold anyways
I mean he is a main character but you can tell some of their choices are just "look we are super progressive"
if there was a openly gay character that they could make a move set around or a trans character they would put them in instantly over the main character. Thank goodness most gay and trans characters are super minor, even ed bigheads son can't be put in due to lack of moveset and costume potential
Future Racheal Bighead mains, we're going to eat good!
don't trannies claim that every cartoon character is a troony nowadays anyways?
they claimed jenny and thaddeus said he agreed but that doesn't mean much
Isn't that dude dating a trannoid? That would explain a lot.
Thaddeus himself isn't a troony but he probably has some underlying fetish.
Read the thread, homie. Everyone's shitting on it.
Yes. And he even gave his troony a mod position on the Discord.
They even tried to make Danny trans.
Korra and SpongeBob are in
>even ed bigheads son can't be put in due to lack of moveset
The devs made huge stretches to make a moveset for Hugh so i'm sure they'd be willing to do it again.
>and costume potential
Again they can stretch. Pre transition, food truck uniform and trans flag colors.
There, i just came up with three costumes for the gay frog.
The game looks like crap, but all these memes and everything related to it is very funny. Keep it going.
If I had a nickel for every black character added to a crossover platform fighter that uses a lot of basketball in their moveset, I'd have two nickels.
I'm willing to go to bat for the devs and say this is the best option at hand given that Unity as a company has opened pandora's box in terms of just how shitty and greedy they can be in regards to their engine and financial policies. A lot of devs are going to finalize the Unity game they're working on and dip.
This is kind of at the heart of the problem for the game. Every Smash Bros is supposed to be the game of its console generation. Multiversus hopes to last several years with updates. But NASB is designed to be effectively video game fast food. Rather than trying to have a big smash hit and coast off of that, Nick wants the current game finished and the next immediately started which leads to situations like this where the roster for fighters and stages had to take a huge cut and the game ends up looking like the final build while the first game was a glorified tech demo...that cost money.
cuts were the devs fault for doing spaghetti code. Dead by daylight has the same issue, they would need to cut everyone if they did a sequel because the code is a mess
Reptar should be bigger
Can't wait for this to flop day 1
Realistically what could happen that would completely sink the game in terms of interest?
The fact that people don't actually like competitive smash games. They like roster discussion but when any of these games actually come out any interest falls off a cliff. Now you made a sequel to a game that people already lost interest in a week.
Nick Brawl did better than most Smash knockoff because it bothered with the gameplay though, compare it to Punch-Time Explosion and the Ninja Turtles smash bros, even PSASBR
NASB1 got as big as it did because of the competitive scene wanting to stick it to Nintendo.
Also you're comparing the game to other games that released years ago with no marketing during a time when platform fighters weren't that big.
The only exception being PlayStation All Stars but even then it came out when attitude towards Nintendo was much more positive so people had no reason to jump ship.
we already had the roster leak which turned a lot of people off, and right from the start there weren't a lot of people willing to give this one a shot after the first one sucked so bad
the final nail in the coffin would be something like the online still being shit
>the final nail in the coffin would be something like the online still being shit
worried about how it'll be early on since the netcode is now server based, but testers seem to be constantly praising it whenever it's mentioned.
>DLC roster is leaked and is mediocre
>Multiversus starts amping up advertising/has a big trailer
>Something about the next Smash Bros is revealed and absorbs discussion
>Lead dev ends up being a degenerate in a way that turns off the majority of the game's fanbase
>Nick pulls the plug on the project for whatever reason
>Multiversus starts amping up advertising/has a big trailer
If they genuinely drop a good and iconic character, especially in the wake of Nickelodeon's DLC than it's over.
>Something about the next Smash Bros is revealed and absorbs discussion
The Switch will be phased out sooner or later, but with releases going all the way to 2024 I doubt we'll see any Smash smidges by the time Nick releases and we get Multiversus news. Smash 6 is an inevitability with how much money it makes, but the timing of it is left uncertain.
Samurai Jack and the Joker would be hard hitters.
They also need to do more cinematic reveals as well, both Nick and WB. The reason why Smash Bros still gets people talking are how great the reveals are and interactions that come from them. All these multi-billion dollar companies can do to respond to Nintendo is just show gameplay with random voice clips strewn about.
Your idea fricking sucks because at base nobody gives a frick about this game.
Dude there is literally no interest in this game. There was none in the first, hence why it bombed. If Game was a no-interest bomb, why would Game+1 do well when they're just making the exact same shit again?
>There is literally no interest in this game
A single google search proves this is wrong. NASB 2's winning over many people including those who never bought the first game.
>hence why it bombed
It made 3 mil in revenue in Steam alone on the first couple of weeks. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
>first game bombed
>did so good on a nothing budget it got a sequel
nick kart racer sold less then nasb by a fricking ton and got a sequel sales mean shit
Sales do mean shit otherwise NASB 2 would've never got a drastically increased budget. They got way more freedom with their choices too while Nick Kart Racers clearly doesn't.
Despite the meme, it actually did quite the opposite. A 13k peak player count with a nick-tier budget is a massive success.
>This game managed to jump over an extremely low bar
>Wow! How impressive! What a success!
The interest is already sinking with all the leaks bumming people out.
Now imagine how much more it'll sink once the game comes out and all those leaked problems reach more people.
Casuals don't care about characters like Lincoln or Helga. Get the frick over it already.
helga and the turtles are the most requested veterans
>So NASB2 May have cut some characters, and that's a good thing.
Helga is the most popular Hey Arnold character alongside Arnold himself and Lincoln is the main characters of Nick's current second biggest cartoon.
casuals don't care about Nick Brawl at all
We got Nick Mario Kart
We got Nick Smash Bros
Now when do we get Nick Mario Party?
I'm surprised there has been like zero Mario Party clones at all
closest thing is Fortune Streets which is Nintendo anyways and Fall Guys which is not really like Mario Party in the sense of structure
There were a shitton of them during the 6th gen, dood. Also, Dokapon Kingdom.
never heard of it
Nickelodeon Party Blast existed but that game was developed by the studio who made Ninjabread Man, if that's an indicator of quality for you.
Oh god, someone link a video of it
I need to see this
Also, for fricks sake
Nickelodeon licenses their games out to Data Design, and the publisher GameMill is the one who published Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing
Is Nickelodeon just desperately trying to be known as the shovelware hobo company?
Here it is, in all its glory.
They already struck gold with THQ but still shill their IPs out to shovelware for some reason.
the fact they have built assists is kinda sick and i wish we had an actual smash char that could do so that sort of thing
>reddit threads still talking about how the cuts aren't confirmed and its likely some characters are unlockable
how moronic are those phag8s
>ban discussion of leaks a week before they announce the last character
>devs say its the last character
>discussion on roster is still heavily moderated because "there might be a suprise"
those morons are hoped up on hopium
They're not allowed to acknowledge that the leaked roster and what was revealed are one and the same. It's a bit sad, actually.
but the devs said on discord that they revealed everyone
Even the DLC characters?
no but that doesn't matter MK1 doesn't ban discussion of dlc pack 2 even though it leaked as in fully leaked we know who they are, nasb2 we know they are not veterans, and not bosses and are from series already in the game that still laves plenty to discuss
>no but that doesn't matter MK1 doesn't ban discussion of dlc pack 2 even though it leaked as in fully leaked we know who they are, nasb2 we know they are not veterans, and not bosses
If they use the DLC to fill out holes in series that shouldn't have had them to begin with then they're biggest homosexuals than previously though. The moment I see Zuko or Arnold (yes, you can make a pacifist-flavored fighter moveset worked, Isabelle in Ult proved it) I'm bouncing.
its kuvira, casey jones, carl (they had rob paulsen so he was an easy get), and a loud sister I don't know who because I don't watch that show
If this is confirmed then it's somehow dogshit in an entirely different way, which is honestly impressive
If true then it's 2/4 for me. Don't have a fricking clue about the other 2, but I do like Casey and Carl, although I would've gone with Cindy instead.
carl and I assume the loud sister was chosen because they had the vas in the game already? not sure about her but if any of the female vas voice a loud sister then that explains it. Cindy would have been in if sandy were not cut if that is the case lol
The leaker who first called the DLC mediocre implied that there'd be no fourth Avatar character.
I have no idea why the DLC hasn't been leaked yet. I'm sick and tired of these leakers pretending they have honor. My best bet is the DLC characters will be revealed by the devs a week after the game is out.
idk if thats even sadder than those on copium defending cutting over 40% of the original
There's one really tilted Hugh main though.
>phag8s
I'm still stunned by Thaddeus's audacity
The comment that saved NASB2.
THREADLY REMINDER
>in the reveal trailer for nasb2 we saw leo and lincoln fighting on an UPDATED waterfall stage, with better models and lighting
>both were cut along with the stage
>the devs spent development time updating nasb1 and then either threw it away to start from scratch wasting dev time
these chumps should have made up their mind
Why are you still spreading this misinfo. Insiders confirmed that wasn't updated, some schmuck used random beta footage for the trailer. Which lines up with how much of an afterthought marketing for the first game was.
Kinda feels like the marketing for NASB2 is an afterthought as well.
Nick really thinks their IPs alone can sell anything.
Nah, the editing and footage has more thought put into it than the first game. And it didn't have a month of radio silence after its announcement like the first game did.
As I read a Hugh main spill his guts out over the cuts, I discover that they have to censor the word 'leak' lest they get janny'd lmao
Can i get a link?
sex with Korra
Only good post itt
Yeah but only with the white one.
no
I know the devs are giant homosexuals and the roster is a mess
but the beavers look incredible, perhaps the best character design wise in this game, not even mentioning most likely top tier.
>angry beavers
I thought Nick had memoryholed them after the falling out with the writers when Nick cancelled the show in their faces?
>cut all the turtles
>stay with just 2 anyways
>cut the main villain
>keep April of all characters
honestly might as well have cut all the TMNT characters since is not a premier era Nicktoon anyways although kinda transcendent
>honestly might as well have cut all the TMNT characters
honestly agreed, they are not a Nick original so the game can go without them so either have all the turtles or don't, definitely not have half the turtles and fricking april
amazing how they just ignore most of these characters to add gertie and ember
>No Ginger
>No Jenny
Does Nick hate these shows or what?
can't have everything in promotional posters
they had doug which they didn;t even own anymore
They still own the earlier seasons of Doug through some weird legal loophole, or at leas tthe way the characters are depicted in it. Pretty sure it's why everyone got redesigned come the Disney seasons.
Reminds me of how the Doyle estate will sue you if you depict Sharlock Holmes as having emotions since the books where he's more emotive aren't public domain.
or how you can't have a frankentein that is green with bolts in his neck because universal owns that specific look till that movie goes public domain
Didn’t Castlevania have a Frankenstein like that?
dosn't matter I wouldn't promote something I only own a few seasons of when its not even popular besides the fact it was one of the first nick cartoons
is an older promo
they already lost him when zim came out
>>No Ginger
Eliza's in it
The posting about this "game" will end immediately after release because the astroturfers will have finished their marketing campaign on here.
>An item that produces a predictable result when used randomly spawned on the stage? NOOOOOO SAVE ME ETIKAMAN I'M GOING INSANE!!!
New NASB2 item confirmed: The Loaded Diaper (Rugrats)
Uh Oh! Stinky! Chuck it at your enemies and they'll take additional damage and knockback from hits!
Krabssisters, how do we respond when Fred gets in?
You better rev up those fryers
>make a big deal about gerald getting in
>don't even give him a stage
>the Black person has to steal another series stage for himself
What would his stage be and how would it work?
literally any place in Hey Arnold, like literally a basketball court that is in the intro since he uses a basketball
azulas stage is the dragon bridge a location related exclusively to zuko, so I would make it the apartment since the devs don't try to have the stages make sense
Should have just brought back Traffic Jam and gave it to him
The school getting flooded.
Flooded with shit.
Just bring back Traffic Jam.
anyone have the leaked stage image?
Who would he main?
Enough of these dumbass Smash comparisons.
Swapping characters are a thing in fighting games, they existed before those xeno b***hes.
It goes as far back as Zelda and Shiek, damnit!
i feel like everyone forgets Zelda and Sheik used to do this too
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN’T JUST USE THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE THAT EVERYONE REMEMBERS, YOU GOT TO MENTION THE FIRST ONES!
Well it's one thing to use a recent example, but it's another to act like it's the first example.
anyone have that discord message saying gertie was their choice not nicks
What's the final smash even referecning? Wish it was Stump doing something inexplicable that fricks them up or Dag's persona hero beaver or Norb's muscular man alter ego. Geez.
Angry Beavers actually look and sound great as a character. I think they'll be fun. But the video was grating and it seems sucking the dev team's dick paid off for this guy since he got to do promo work for them but doesn't that kind of really fricking hurt their credibility as an outlet?
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why does Rivals of Aether 2 look so much better than Nick Brawl 2, is not even funny
that being said I still wish that they kept it spritebased atleast from a GBA style to a DS style
>furryshit
no thanks
have you seen Nick Brawl?
A better game? What of it?
It has soul, that's pretty much it.
RoA is made by a talented team that loves what they are doing, while NASB is made by homosexuals.
>spoiler
That sounds kino, it's a shame they didn't went for that even if I like the current artstyle.
Looks worse. ROA1 is better
yeah hence why I wish they kept it spritebased, part of the appeal was how sprites made workshop characters easier, now what?
>still wish that they kept it spritebased atleast from a GBA style to a DS style
imagine
Frick i miss Project X Zone.
If there's ever a PXZ3 i hope they keep the sprites.
Also Bayonetta would be guaranteed so there's that.
I say Rivals is the closest to dethroning Smash in platform fighters(though is still kinda far)
they get so many things right about making the a videogame while the rest seem shovelware tier
I'd say Rivals is never going to dethrone Smash, but they also do not need to. The developers realized trying to make direct comparisons with Smash would be a surefire fail and did their own spin on the platform fighter
Don't be scammed again
Smash babies to the left of me, multisharties to the right. Here I am, a NASBchad.
Thaddeus when he goes into voice chat and none of his Discord kittens join.
%3D%3D
Sorry Anon, if you want that new video game, you have to watch the entire thing.
>https://twitter.com/nickbrawlgame/status/1711396103990747173
I wish we lived in an AU where the beavers got a beat em up game that became a cult classic like the The Simpsons one
Now that they revealed their whole roster, what are they gonna do until November?
I wonder which nicktoons could be represented in future nasb and nkr sequels
The sad thing is that they've already got almost all of the biggest named ones.
The only major ones I can think of are
>Bringing back a real monsters rep
>Bringing back CatDog
>Rocket Power
>As Told By Ginger
>Chalkzone
>TUFF Puppy
>Winx Club if Nick owns them, don't know how that works.
>Catscratch
>Some Nick Jr. shows, although I doubt that Nick suits would ever be okay with Dora or Blue beating the shit out of people
Everything else on their catalog is shows nobody remember because they got cancelled after a season, absolute shit that nobody liked or something you can't really rep without having to go obscure like the kids from Kablam.
>Winx Club if Nick owns them, don't know how that works.
>I doubt that Nick suits would ever be okay with Dora or Blue beating the shit out of people
Blue I can't see, but Nick has put Dora in some weird shit over the years and I could genuinely see her as a character one day.
>only shows on this list I care about are Rocket Power, Chalkzone and the one season TUFF I saw before mostly dropping cartoons
Was Nick's animated catalog really that thin? I swear it feels like NASB is missing more than that.
Wanna know just how bad it has gotten?
>These are the shows Nick has greenlit
>Meanwhile they rejected the pitches for Constant Payne, Adventure Time, The Owl House, and Phieas and Ferb
>There's probably others that I don't know about too
I'm not the biggest fan of those shows, but compared to Nick's shit they look like fricking platinum.
Like i say every thread, blame Cyma Zarghami.
If you really wanna know what happened to Nick, you can blame it all on former Nick president, Cyma Zarghami. As soon as she got in charge she fricked up everything from greenlighting several bad shows, turning down good shows that their competitors would get and even creating the SpongeBob standard. Even before she became president she was a total b***h. She was the one who personally ruined Micah Wright's career by black listing him just for wanting royalties for his upcoming show Constant Payne, and she also got the show cancelled as well.
The guy before her, Herb Scannell really was the mastermind behind making Nickelodeon as big as it was in the 2000s and grew the company to new levels, as you can see by his Wikipedia spot in pic related.
Too bad his replacement fricked up everything he worked so hard to build.
>Woman becomes head of a company
>It quickly falls apart at the seams
Many such cases!
>There's some alternate universe where Cyma doesn't frick things up and we have Amanada Payne in the game
aaaaaaaaaaaaa
>Show gets rejected because of some backstage bullshit and Nick thinking that a spy action show featuring a girl wouldn't work
>Totally Spies and Kim Possible come out almost immediately after the cancelation and become massively popular
I would be eternally seething if I was that guy.
Not only that but Cyma, the one who got the show cancelled, has a bias against action shows as she absolutely hates them. Why? Because she believes they turn kids into terrorists.
>she believes they turn kids into terrorists
Source on that? Because I just thought Zim's attempts at terrorism were funny, I thought Ren blowing up Australia was a good joke, and the Gaang were just bending around people so I don't see any replicatible terrorism.
I read it from an insider years ago.
Apologies but it'd take a long while to find it again.
I've heard that that whole generation of executives and some animators of the 90s and 2000s hated action shows and especially anime because of how utterly and absolutely anime BTFOd Western cartoons at the time. Like Dragonball Z broke just about every ironclad rule Western animators and cartoon studios held dear since the days of rubberhose cartoons (e.g. no gruesome violence, no longform storytelling, heavily anatomically accurate character designs, drama and tragedy, etc.) and yet was competing with the NFL and WWF instead of any cable TV cartoon. That basically buckbroke cable TV cartoon networks for years, and the generation immediately after that was desperate to "correct" cartoons back to being comedy-centric slice of life/slapstick shows for kids
>Was Nick's animated catalog really that thin?
It isn't thin, it's actually bloated with mostly garbage and literal who shows that got canned after a season. The only shows I've seen get a somewhat positive reception since then are Tuff Puppy, the TMNT reboots and Korra, but even those are obviously divisive.
This isn't even some rose tinted glasses speaking, 90% of the shows on this list are literal shitshows.
Honestly i think shows that got screwed over should have a character. It's give them more recognition and put them in a better spotlight.
I watched that Kung Fu Panda show with my nephew a few years back and it was pretty good.
>Tuff Puppy
Kitty Katswell shouldve been a character because shes hot
Kid Danger and Breadwinners were some legendarily hot ass
I mean some POWERFULLY shit shows
>everything after The Legend of Korra
A decade of pure misery.
I never thought much of TUFF Puppy, but it's way better than everything else on that list.
>Winx Club if Nick owns them, don't know how that works.
they do, viacom bought up the rights in like 2011 and they rebooted from the old version that had dubs (yes, it's an Italian cartoon originally) on those old 4kids blocks.
Eventually they're gonna have to start pulling from more 2010s shows.
But damn, does Nick really need more successful IPs, same with Paramount as a whole.
Say it with me
Nickelodeon vs Cartoon Network All Star Brawl
Or just some action adventure network crossover
Fun fact, Nickelodeon used to be a Time Warner company.
I liked NASB but 2's gonna die out just like 1 did. Melee is free on PC and has rollback netcode, anyone who cares about platform fighters on a technical level is already playing that. Ultimategays and PM players will keep playing those as well in the long term. NASB's entire market is Melee/PM players who want a funny game to dick around in and children who want to play Smash but their parents bought them a different console
According to leaks, Viacom was evidently okay with the prospect of Spongebob in Smash Bros. Imagine the studio that owns the game you're making allowing their biggest star to be in a competing game.
>According to leaks, Viacom was evidently okay with the prospect of Spongebob in Smash Bros.
Gonna need a source on that.
me. you have to believe me, its on Ganker
It wasn't Smash Bros. it was Multiversus. Papagenos explained it in a video a while back.
eveyone here seems good except the literally who sheboon wonder woman and Poison Ivy seems unnecessary at and Marceline a little bit at the moment but not that bad
Pickle Rick is a solid gag character after building a foundation which would be solid after Scooby and Joker and few new series
Pickle Rick would be horrible.
It's literally a meme.
movesetwise he is unironically one of the better Rick and Morty option but there is no need for more
I'd rather they just make another OC with whatever moveset they come up with.
You're right it was MVS. Sorry. I'm drunk.
The final month of MVS before the shutdown announcement was really sad because it was really evident that they were running out of cash and passion. They released an event where every skin was a literal recolor, and in the files they were legitimately implying they were gonna repulse the unrelated Pickle Rick skin into a separate character. How it got that bad I truly will never know. Either way I have no confidence in the relaunch
>repulse
repurpose, oops
It wasn't even that. They just got too far behind when it came to character releases. Joker was supposed to be revealed at the game awards, but he wasn't ready so they had an internal discussion about what to do with the game going forward.
They decided around December to shut down the servers after the end of season 2 and only extended the season after complaints about not finishing the battlepass.
If you are wondering why they weren't more transparent, Warner Brothers told them to hold off on the shutdown announcement in order to milk every last cent from people's pockets before inevitably hitting them with the "You can't play the game for the rest of the year, lol."
>They released an event where every skin was a literal recolor, and in the files, they were legitimately implying they were gonna repulse the unrelated Pickle Rick skin into a separate character. How it got that bad I truly will never know.
Actually, Pickle Rick was changed from a skin to an Echo Fighter, because the developers realized that his model had a different hitbox compared to regular Rick. This spawned a whole internal discussion about adding echo fighters, with Nubia being made into one and Punchline being considered.
That just makes Pickle Rick feel even more like a waste.
>Multiversus hitboxes
I genuinely think those developers have never played a platform fighter before
which is odd since they are very good at designing a fighter, Tom and Jerry is brilliant
I should've seen the signs the moment the dev team said they worked for League of Legends. As if the leveling system being leaked wasn't enough already...
That makes more sense.
I would want Paramount content in Multiversus. I know they'd treat the TMNT better than NASB.
It honestly seems odd that Nick and Sony are willing to put their characters in Multiversus before Dreamworks. Shrek and Puss seem like no-brainer choices.
>wicked witch
is this a not so subtle attempt at building off the "hype" of finding her lost Sesame Street episode? who the frick was asking for Wizard of Os shit?
dead game
https://twitter.com/FinnMer12099379/status/1708580931575918942
Can Multiversus come back strong after winning the VGAs?
>No el grapadora assist
>No oxnard Montavo assist
>No Toebot assist
>No Baron-once-bad-then-good-then-bad-again assist
>Nick Brawl 2
>Multiversus returning with new fighters
>Rivals of Aether 2
>all while Smash is in slumber
very interesting, who will take the crown of the sleeping wolf?
Multiversus if they come out with something big along with the Joker
>Nick Brawl 2
The biggest hurdle this game has now is winning back the players who feel burned from the first game. At least this game seems to finally have a solid foundation this time.
>Multiversus
All they need to do to win people back is a really cool cinematic trailer. Despite this, I worry for its longevity because unlike NASB and Rivals, MVS lacks a good foundation. Because of this, I am worried the game is going to die out quickly again.
>Rivals 2
The game is definitely the most promising in terms of gameplay, and the updated graphics will help it a lot. The problem is, that unlike NASB2 and MVS the roster is primarily comprised of furgay OCs which will cause it to have difficulty bringing in new players.
In terms of popularity, the safe bet would be 1. Multiversus, 2. NASB 3. Rivals. Long term, I would say 1. NASB (Unless something disastrous is discovered at launch) 2. Rivals 3. Multiversus.
Rivals 2 is the only good game of the bunch, you'd be nuts to think it won't have the longest popularity.
Rushdown Revolt iirc
i think if it has a strong workshop support like the first game does then it definatly will
>He thinks NASB has longevity
Shut your greasy ass up, plumber boy. Once the next Smash game comes out, Ultimate will be thrown in the trash just like the rest of your previous titles.
Bruh, you're pretty much saying that the next Smash is a guaranteed success. A Smash hit.
Kick his ass, Mario!
Also can you put me in the next game of yours? I need somewhere to rest in case I job to the Master of Masters in KH4...
You are going to buy my Smash Bros. Ultimate Deluxe Editions for the next 20 years and you are going to like it!
so Fraymakers is vaporware now?
Let's put it this way: if Fraymakers was a boxer, it would step into the ring only to get knocked out in the first few seconds.
>All the characters people wanted were assists
Wow
ARE YOU READY TOURISTS?
>Ackshually i been here since 2005
I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
>i was here for fappening
OOOOOOOOO
Who posts Twitter screencaptures stolen with glee?
>REDDITBOB SOIPANTS
Normie and cringe and newbiegy is he.
>REDDITBOB SOIPANTS
If offtopic bullshit be something you wish,
>REDDITBOB SOIPANTS
Just pick up those phones and start posting you b***h!
>REDDITBOB SOIPANTS
GET OUT
>REDDITBOB SOIPANTS
>REDDITBOB SOIPANTS
>REDDITBOB SOIPANTS
REDDITBOOOOOB, SOIPAAAAANTS
*pees on you*
theres kinda Battle Crush
no OXNARLD MONTARLVO
no buy
shut up
You hype train gays did this for every other SMASH KILLER and then forget them in a fricking week.
Frick off already with your fake hype
have you read the thread 90% is shitting on it
Have you not been reading the thread? We're shitting on it.
GOOD MOOOOOOOORNING Ganker! Just wanted to remind you that we’re another day closer to Otis (yes, THE Otis from Back at the Barnyard) getting confirmed in Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl 2! Make sure to save your tears for the upcoming roster reveal when Otis walks into the spotlight!
>b-but Otis hasn’t been a relevant character since 2011!
“Moo!”
Hate to disappoint you city slickers, but all the fan-favorites are in! Nigel, Jenny, Tigre... it doesn’t matter if they haven’t aired in over a decade as long as they were once part of the Nick crew! And who better represents the soul of Nickelodeon than your beloved bovine! But feel free to continue your denial. Your tears of disappointment will be all the more sweeter!
Sorry sweetie, if a game doesn't sell 30 million copies it's a flop.
No video game has ever sold more than 20 million copies ever so that's a bad sign for the industry
>No Muscular Beaver or Baron Bad Beaver specials
Into the fricking trash it goes
>Paramount LatAm partially owns the streaming rights to the Needless anime
Adam Blade bros, it's our chance to make it in as DLC!!