Can anyone explain why I shouldn't just get this cheap 4k monitor
https://www.amazon.com/Fiodio-Monitor-2xDisplay-Adjustable-Wide-Viewing/dp/B09KHJJMK9
instead of this more expensive LG monitor?
https://www.amazon.com/LG-38GL950G-B-Ultragear-Monitor-Refresh/dp/B07ZS1DZM1
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>born for gameplay
>led backlight
>2 hdmi
>2 display port
>audio out
>>born for gameplay
>>led backlight
>>2 hdmi
>>2 display port
out
Well for one thing I have no idea who Fiodio is so it's probably some cheap Chinese shit that's either going to look awful or lie about the specs
That LG one you're paying for a good quality panel with features like HDR and stuff.
When it comes to PC stuff yes you can just buy "cheap" but you're getting what you pay for
shit i forgot about HDR
For context, I used to use a Samsung QLED 2019 curved gaming monitor 144hz have but it cracked during transport when i moved to Texas
I've been using a 21" Ben Q monitor as a backup for the last seven months
https://www.benq.com/en-ap/monitor/stylish/gl2450.html
>features like HDR and stuff.
>450 cd/m2
>HDR
lol
lmao even
HDR is a scam on most monitors.
If you care about hdr gaming experience the qd oled is by far the best option
Fiodio is an Italian designer just like Pininfarina was for Ferrari.
Why do you need 4K? The current HDMI 2.1 can't run 4K at 144hz. Buy the monitor that has DP 2.0 - 4K 144 hz or 8K 60hz.
ok cool, i'll look for one with those capabilities
Too bad, there is no monitor that has DP 2.0 right now. They will come next year.
>Ultrawide
Meme, don't do this
>Curved
Flat is better
>Fidio
Literally fricking who? Buying no-name monitor brands can be good or horrible.
Just buy a 1440p 144Hz 27" monitor from ASUS / LG / Samsung / BenQ(Zowie)
like i said, i do video editing. a ultrawide would be a godsend
The chink shit one probably has much worse motion quality. Go find an actual review for it. Never buy that sort of stuff blind..
Also only the LG is 4K ppi, the other one is only 1440p ppi wise
I wouldn't buy any of these 2 for gaming, especially the LG one because at this price you might find an LG C1 oled which is much better for gaming and content consoomption
Dumb tard
If your video editing work is serious, find a good ultrawide with good colors ootb or make sure to calibrate it.
If that's for work, you don't need it to run at 180hz bro. The LG would probably be a good pick but you're gonna struggle to run that resolution for games and LG's oleds are still better for gaymes so keep that in mind.
>If your video editing work is serious, find a good ultrawide with good colors ootb or make sure to calibrate it.
Ok cool I'll add that to the list of things to look out for. Do you think you can tell me why it's $1.4k though? I'm watching Hardware Unboxed n this exact model and I'm not seeing any reason why it's different from other curved monitors.
Also
for context
the reviews said the specs are legit. what's your thoughts on that?
>What about HDR, VRR, response time etc?
Definitely need HDR for editiing work and response time/VRR is important for the games I play
If you've used adobe premiere pro you'd know why. the more of the timeline you can see and the more of the workflow that fits on screen the easier it is to work
>Definitely need HDR for editiing work and response time/VRR is important for the games I play
I mean does the Fiodio support those? I can't find anything.
I guess I understand it for something with timelines, but that's very specific work. It's worse for most other types of work, like spreadsheets. Cool, it's wide, but now you have to scroll more to get the vertical part.
I'm also not trying to shit on a monitor just because it's not good for general purpose. If someone does a lot of video editing, then it makes sense. But also we are on a vidya board, and then you just play the "does it have ultrawide support" lottery.
Also this is just my personal taste, even if ultrawide support was perfect, I still hate it. I hate that movies are that aspect ratio. I feel like 16:9 fits the eyes better and there's a claustrophobic feel to original format movies.
This is all my opinion, but the thing I'm criticizing does also cost more and have worse support so it's worth putting out there.
ultrawide is awesome and one of those things you cannot go back after trying, like a MMO mouse with frickton buttons on thumb
>Flat is better
I actually prefer curved honestly, it makes it easier to focus in on.
get Gigabyte M34WQ instead
One is VA and one is IPS.
IPS: Less ghosting, worse blacks
VA: More ghosting, better blacks
If you go the VA route you have to do extra research because it ranges from noticeable but acceptable to extreme ghosting where something colorful on the screen leaves a 200px trail behind on a dark background as you move the camera or something.
VA is nice if you're focusing on more cinematic games but not recommended for games taht actually make use of that high refresh rate. I'd never buy a high refresh VA.
Ultrawide is a meme though.
for one none of the monitors you linked are 4k, theyre 1440p and 1600p. then you fell for not only the ultra wide meme but also for the curved meme
and if you need someone to tell you why you shouldnt go with a cheap unknown brand for a product that is still pretty expensive then i cant help you.
but one thing you could do is get better site to look for shit. Amazon doesnt have the best offers. i think pcparticker is similar to geizhals but for US. i dont know of other sites similar to geizhals for the US but you could still check out geizhals just to find the model and then search for it in the US from there.
https://geizhals.eu/?cat=monlcd19wide&xf=11939_27%7E11940_27%7E11955_IPS%7E11963_144%7E14591_38402160
you can dial the settings around to find what you want
>muh meme
OP said he's working with this. Ultrawide is fantastic for work (and games if you're willin to thinker)
The curve isn't a meme when it's this large.
Can you please explain why it's better for work? The aspect ratio has nothing to do with screen real estate. You don't get more screen automatically just because it's wide. It was commonly accepted that 16:10 was the better ratio for work than 16:9 but now we're literally going the opposite here.
You do get more space and without the scaling drawbacks of full 4K.
Literally can't live without that additional space anymore.
nta but you do get more screen real estate as there are more pixels added. its not like the pixels are just stretched, you just get a bit more. but before going ultra wide for more screen space id rather just get a second monitor all together or get a higher resolution 16:9 or even both.
Curved is great for work, but it's shit for games, plus if there is a lot of energy fluctuation you might get either dark spots on the ends or worse smoke coming out of them.
It's a hit or miss unfortunately as sometimes buying a ultrawide would be cheaper than two monitors
>but it's shit for games
I don't think so.
it is because most games arent optimized around it. sometimes the screen wont fill out and youre just left with a 16:9 window on a 21:9 screen, sometimes you do get the full window but with black bars on the side, even if you do get the full proper image, the UI will most of the time be pushed off to the sides making it harder to see from your peripheral vision, and if they are placed more in the middle like a 16:9 then what really is the differrence for games? its nothing more than the FOV and nothing else for video games at least. sure, looks nicer, but is it worth it for the desk space you have to clear and the exrta money you have to pay? if i were to put an ultra wide on my comparatively small desk i couldnt fit a second, normal monitor on the desk and id be left with effectively less screen real estate than if i just went with two 16:9.
OP here. I used to be able to game on my old monitor though. None of the issues with my games manifested. it was 34" 4k curved monitor. screen broke when i moved so im looking for another one that's even better
Wrong board
they didnt respond so yeah
<asking anyone for anything on the mongolian basket weaving website
i mean yeah, you used to be able to do that here pre-2017
>cheap monitor
Enjoy your ghosting and smearing.
The LG one also smears btw. Anything will smear without BFI, even oleds.
Yes ofcourse but it's highly reduced on fast response time monitors.
Anything more than 3ms GTG and 10ms total response time will be extra smeary.
MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD
Seems worth it
If you can though you should probably try one of the Gigabyte ones IF they are in stock
This served me well for a very long time, but I had to calibrate it at the start,
I've had friends who used a ultrawide and it just got worse over time because they kept "overusing" one side of the screen while the other was just for chat and basic things. What they described was something like loss of quality and overheating. Two others still have ultrawides and no issues, but the others never gone back to them for games.
Back when I was looking for monitors I also looked into ultrawides and saw some comments relating similar events, mostly overheating, but I can't say for sure if it's specific issues or general issues. Still too frequent for me to trust them, at least at a reasonable price from good brands.
>Fiodio
The fact that I can't even find the proper specs of this shit on the web is telling. You can bet they either lie or everything but the carefully picked specs they talk about is garbage.
What about HDR, VRR, response time etc?
OP again. I've listened to advice so far, but what do you guys think about this?
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-49-Inch-Curved-Monitor-LC49HG90DMNXZA/dp/B072C7TNC5
you were talking about 4k but you do know that thats not 4k right? i mean, you clearly dont but im just making sure. the 3840p is your horizontal resolution, you need the vertical resolution of 2160p for actual 4k.
the monitor you linked would be equivalent to two 27" 1080p monitors next to each other, which you could get for far less than half the price of that thing. youre looking at an $800 monitor with merely 1080p vertical resolution but because its ultra wide you get double the width. with two separate monitors you could have effectively the same for as cheap as $300
ok what about this Neo G9? Also is mini-LED worth the extra $799
https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Odyssey-Monitor-FreeSync-LS49AG952NNXZA/dp/B096YNP6ZR
If you're entering the 700€ + price range you should just man up and buy the alienware QD oled
It absolutely shits on the competition, and only reason to not buy it is you cant afford it.
Do they make one that is 49"?
Theres 55" qd oled tv
this is also not a 4k monitor even though the title says so. the details say its 1440p and you could run the same game again. two 1440p monitors would be far cheaper than this thing. you clearly have no idea of what products youre looking at but if you want to throw out $1.5k for something you not only dont know the advantages and disadvantages but cant even read the basic specs then by all means, go ahead. youre clearly just an underage looking at shiny expensive electronics.
Linus did a review of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tURZaUyUoOM
I'm considering it because I would like to cut my three monitors down to 1, and have GSYNC (my middle monitor has Freesync and I got meme'd into buying it because supposedly GSYNC works fine on it... it doesn't, there's a reason that they didn't certify it).
I use to have that monitor, insanely heavy and it only lasted a year before it completely broke. Just get two smaller monitors
also, didnt notice but the 49" samsung you linked is VA, which you should avoid in general.
all monitors are shit and by buying one you partake in a panel lottery
if you have that kind of money just buy an oled tv
Are they worth it now? I mean compared to regular monitors for all purpose use.
And how's the lag?
2ms reaction time 10ms input lag
pretty good. The big unknown is the burn in on new models
I'm looking to buy something for my desk.
It doesn't need to be 4k and all that but it would be great if it worked well for gaming and work.
Would you recommend a TV for that or should I keep looking into monitors for games+desk work?
TV are cheap and big, but delay is important, even with gaming mode, I tested mine and it had around 150 ms difference
>It doesn't need to be 4k
there are no 1440p tvs I am aware of that would be any good, 1080p is obsolete
Don't go ultrawide unless you have another 2k monitor or a 4k screen, more than 70% games (mostly japanese) will need ultrawide fix mod and even then all the UI will be messed up, but you get black bars if you don't add the ultrawide fix.
I have never heard of Fiodio, but that panel seems to be sourced from AUO at least, so there's that. I'd still advice against these cheap chinese no-name brands.
XG2431
1080p / 24" / 240hz
+ Best BFI of any monitor to date
Perfection
>350 nits
With BFI on won't this thing turn into dim shit?
>cheap 4k monitor
Doesnt exist.
Also you didn’t link a 4k monitor you linked a 1440p one.
I wouldnt buy samsung unless its like, top of the line stuff.
I would consider LG for medium - acceptable tier
I own a gigabyte which is actually has excellent build quality and screen quality, a good option in my opinion.
For monitors, i wouldn't cheap out at all, its the main shit you are always looking at.
Buy this,
https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/alienware-27-gaming-monitor-aw2721d/apd/210-axsw/monitors-monitor-accessories
It's always on sale everywhere and has a 3 year warranty where you can return it for literally any problem.
27 inches is not going to cut it if he is video editing
Whoops.
I might be mistaken but I thought curved monitors were dogshit for video editing?
they really are the best for it
You never know with these chink brand monitors. Sometimes they are just the people who are actually making the monitors that go into name brands and they decided to sell their own - that is how shit like TCL and Vizio got started. Other times you are just getting bottom of the line shit that the real companies rejected.
You need to do your homework and try to find some real reviews.
if you're going into the $700 range you might want to check out the one I just bought recently.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-27-gaming-monitor-aw2721d/apd/210-AXSW/monitors-monitor-accessories
i've had a lot of monitors and this one looks significantly better than everything else i've owned. dell is unironically making the best monitors in the industry right now
Not all monitors are the same.
I have a cheap 2k monitor and probably the best fhd monitor.
Other than size, the fhd monitor is better in every way.
Color, contrast, refresh rate, interface, reaponse time everything.
Anyone looked at the new Sony monitors? They seem pretty decent and priced competitively.
Sony makes better tvs than monitors, but tbh I haven't checked recently. How reasonably priced are we talking? Competition has been shelling out some nice stuff lately
Imagine spending 800$ on a fricking lcd monitor in the year 2022 when qd oled monitors exist
Save that theres 42" lg oled tv
nobody can use a TV on their table FFS
Anybody have any experience with gjgabyte monitors?
My first one from them has a weird time out when going to and from full screen for a few seconds, the panel contrast and hdr suck too.
They all come from the same factories dude. They have the same panels, the same features, etc. The only difference is their QC standards, and none of these generic le gamer brands have high ones. You are playing the panel lottery and hoping its good or they have good customer service.
I Own a G27FC and it great.
Good build quality.
Good Screen Quality.
Has some speakers, that arent great, but are helpful when you need some audio.
Lacks the HDR that monitors in this range have, but honestly the HDR sucks on the other monitors, you usually have to get a specific one to fully enjoy it.
Mine came with height adjustment which others at this price range didnt have either.
The timeout thing I thought it was common on all monitors, thats why people use borderless instead of fullscreen.
He looks like a robot man who's very disappointed in me
>Finally got a high refresh rate monitor with not actively shit speakers
>Loan it to my brother
>Left speaker completely non-functional
>occasionally both speakers will very LOUDLY play audio for about a second before completely cutting out until I turn the monitor off and on again
Genuine question does anyone here have an idea of what he fricked up in it?
>people ACTUALLY listen to monitor speakers on the daily
I seriously hope you dont do this
homie I just don't want to have speakers on my desk. My paper I draw big fat tiddies on goes there.
Oh you're a Black person
nevermind then
>Black person
>Maintaining a clean desk free of obstruction
>Not having some gaudy overpriced fricking speakers occupying the whole desk
Yea, instead of spending $50 on some small basic PC speakers, you will instead wonder why your shitty monitor speakers arent working. That is much more productive.
>I cant afford 100€ speakers
>I got high refresh rate monitor for the first time in 2022, its so fantastic I loan it to my impoverished brother. Its some chinkshit that immediately breaks
>I dont use a drawing tablet to draw
>I cant afford speaker stands or a proper desk with space
Must be awful living like animals
>I dont use a drawing tablet to draw
Now that's an assumption
I loaned it to my brother because my desk only has two mounts for monitors.
Everything?
Never, ever trust reviews from the store, no matter which.
If you want reviews go look for a website that crunches up all the data even if you don't get shit of what it says. Those are better than any customer review out there.
Doesn't it being FHD worsen the experience these days? I'm not buying into 4k but at least 1440p seems to be a better mid range for things now. 4k is still upscaled most of the time and HDR is a meme.
2k is a different price range, unless you cheap out.
In my case , i started with a Samsung G5 because i wanted 1440p due to work reasons (more space and shit)
but the quality of those was so shit i had it replaced 5 times before they just offered me the gigabyte. which is FHD, the only downside of what i wanted, but in return the build quality made up for it, kind of.
if you have a good GPU, IMO 1080p is enough as long as you use proper AA. Honestly I dont see much point in 2k gaming yet. Good if you have a GPU that supports it at a good framerate, but if you are going for 144hz you are probably playing in 1080p to max out the frames and actually make use of your monitor's refresh rate.
thats just my opinion tho.
I am aware of the price difference, but since resolution is steadily increasing the lower ones become cheaper. I feel like 2k is at a nice price point right now where you can buy cheap and with a certain degree of quality. I've been recommended the Gigabyte M27Q multiple times but unfortunately it just wasn't available at the time and now I feel like I can get something better for the same price.
I also have a need for higher resolutions due to work but I understand your point perfectly. In a roundabout way it would be like going back to CRT which still perform amazingly well and can output excellent results with very low resolutions making everything run more smoothly.
Still, on the long run I feel like 2k now would be more advantageous than FHD due to natural evolution of the resolution.
If you can go for a good quality 2k, its a good investment. Check out the 2k version of the gigabyte monitor i told you.
Isn't that just the G27Q? If so the M27Q should be better and actually has a renewed version M27Q-X
But correct me if I'm wrong, every manufacturer should just make names less complicated but it seems all they care about is throwing more mumbo jumbo at our faces
https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-Curved-Class-DisplayPort-C408B-QWN168W/dp/B094LDMHJS/
this seems to be decent as well. good reviews all around and good specs
Don't get an ultrawide, they're a meme for gaming you're gonna be playing 80% of your games windowed at 16:9 anyway cause the games don't support ultrawide.
1080p 240hz is all you need and is cheap.
1080p 360hz, HDR
>falling for the hdr meme on monitors
>LED backlight
For what possible purpose? theyre useless enough when you can see them
BenQ XL2456K with DYAC is all you need.
Perfect motion like a CRT.
What do you guys think about the AORUS FO48U?
dogshit
HDR is a meme anon and false prophets will speak otherwise, believe in your gut and don't buy Chinese if you can avoid it.
HDR creates a beautiful vibrancy that can't be accomplished by adding more pixels. Unfortunately it's spotty on PC, but certainly on consoles it looks great. With PC, you might have to fiddle with the brightness and it can frick up your recordings.
Okay, what's the best monitor as a replacement for three monitors? I'm not OP, but I would like to replace my three monitors (one 16:9 display 32" monitor landscape, two 22" 16:9 displays in portrait). Leaning towards the Samsung G9.
Lg 42 c2
Too small.
Add another monitor next to it then
The whole point is to get away from that. I want one continuous display. Also, OLED is shit for desktops, fricking Linus got screwed on that within months of moving to OLED. Unless you're jumping through a lot of bullshit hoops, you WILL get burn-in.
>Linus got screwed on that within months of moving to OLED.
CX is older tech, c2 is 2 generations improved
If you're not poor you can just take the burn in as a price to pay for an improved picture, who cares it doesnt happen that fast.
>It's totally not a problem, so much has changed since Linus got a monitor less than one year ago that got burn-in within literally a month.
>If you're not poor, blowing $1000 every year to replace your garbage monitor shouldn't be a problem.
Check youtube for "lg cx 2 years later"
Any drawbacks? Any gotchas? I'm thinking about the 48 inch (I have a big-ass desk, and 48 inch would be about the size of my one landscape monitor and two portraits, in terms of width, but much higher vertically). Could pick one up today if I wanted to.
42 has higher ppi
it has the standard anti-burn in stuff, auto dimming that you need a service remote to turn off, pixel shift and such.
Its not a monitor, so it comes with spyware and behaves annoyingly like a tv. When you turn off pc you need to also turn off tv because morons are in charge of most tv companies.
It has a permanently attached power cable, because a moron is in charge of LG.
You need to change windows habits, as in moving wallpaper that turns on fast, hidden taskbar, hidden chrome tabs and such would be safer. You dont want to turn it very bright since, you know.
It has way better picture quality than any monitor besides alienware qd oled so that should make the switch easier.
>You need to change windows habits, as in moving wallpaper that turns on fast, hidden taskbar, hidden chrome tabs and such would be safer. You dont want to turn it very bright since, you know.
Sounds... not so good for me. I work and game at the same desk, so there's going to be a lot of productivity shit up at all times, and I need to see my taskbar as well. How are the QD OLEDs from Samsung? The Alienware is too small, I need something at least 42" (if 16:9, larger if ultrawide).
Theres a 55" qd oled tv
QD OLED lets way more light trough thanks to no polarization layer which makes it less likely to get burn in, or thanks to pixel refresh stay at high brightness for longer.
Its more expensive and its first gen tech but it would be a fantastic display for gaming. HDR movies would be better on it thanks to higher color volume.
Do you think there would be a big difference in risk in using the QN55S95BAFXZA as a monitor versus Alienware's 34" QD OLED?
Risk of burn is lesser on both of those than on lg woleds.
I gotta warn about alienware monitor being less good for officer work because of the close viewing distance and the triangle sub pixle arrangement which makes text a bit fuzzy and have green/red tint on high contrast straight edges. Its invisible in gaming tho.
With the larger tv the viewing distance is greater and you cant see it the same way.
I'm currently sitting 2.5 feet from the center of my monitor, though I could easily push that out to 3 ft., or even 3.5 with the depth of my desk. Would 55" be too much? I was hoping for more in the 48" range but it looks like there are no QDOLEDs around that size, pretty much stuck with 35" monitor or 55" TV.
You wouldnt be able to use the tv on same desk your keyboard is on.
But it would work with pic related and you choose the distance between your face and it.
My desk is 3 ft. deep, so add about another 10~ for how far my eyes are from my desk, accounting for the size of the stand, I would be around 3.5/4 ft. or so from the center of the screen.
Youd want to watch the tv from 2m distance
I would look into the QN90A they have both a 43" and 50" variant. Pretty much the closest your going to get to an OLED but still has all the features like VRR and even better HDR.
HDR is best on qd oled thanks to perfect blacks and high brightness colors.
Just getting the scene bright doesnt change the fact that minileds dont have perfect blacks.
I was refering to OLED not QD OLED since they don't offer smaller variants yet. But's one of the best Mini LED tv's out there and comes pretty close without having the burn in draw backs.
another thing to consider is the brightness of your room. If you have a darker room for example I use black out curtains and OLED if fine for brightness. For regular use I usually keep it at like 60-70% Your eyes will adjust.
Yes you dont want bright lighs with qd oled screens. Ruins the contrast. Theres a reason samsung didnt release office monitors with qd oled displays because it just doesnt work there.
>Fiodio
Literally who, would you buy some literal who named chink car?
>ultrawide
true, proper implemented games place the hud on the same position than 16:9 and extends the rest of the game to the 21:9, also curved screen help. I used ultrawide for years and recently changed to a 144hz curved ultrawide
when game doesn't support ultrawide just play with blackbars on the side, but it's hard after you're used to glorious ultrawide
99% of games don’t have proper implementation
not really, some do, some doesn't and year by year more games do, lost ark even emulates ultrawide on nonultrawide screens and it's a very old game
>year by year more games do
yeah but good luck actually playing good games since new ones suck dick
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this is mine
so a tiny baby monitor that OP explicitly said would not work for him?
i just felt like sharing 🙂
what devil compelled you to buy a 1080p monitor in 2022
i dont need anything more than 1080p
Why not? Higher resolutions aren't even noticeable on a monitor that size, depending on how far away he is. Framerate is what matters most.
you must have missed the part where OP says he does video editing
no one wants to use adobe premiere on a tiny ass 1080p monitor
I'll share too! This is mine 🙂
4k tv >>>> all monitors
Get this instead
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Gaming-VG27AQ-G-SYNC-Monitor/dp/B07WQ4FXY9/ref=sr_1_3?tag=ganker-20&crid=2I18IAWM12JY5&keywords=vg27aq&qid=1657558244&sprefix=vg27aq%2Caps%2C71&sr=8-3
Why is there a 165 and a 170 Hz version?
It's just a different sku
Nevermind wrong TV, I think it was a Philips OLED with backlighting. I was pretty impressed with it but my point is kinda moot if I don't know the exact model.
philips 706 is pretty alright
I saw one shop selling 55" for less than 700€ locally
Yeah I think that's the one. 55" for 900€
For that price you can get c1 which is still a better tv overall, just doesnt have ambilight. Which does help with eye strain.
>c1
This one? The one I first linked in my deleted post?
Is it better? It's really hard to tell since the size is the same and they all advertise good image quality, obviously.
Personally I do like the ambilight a lot.
Yep. They use same panels but c1 is much more popular, I think it has better motion/gaming features.
If you can get the philips couple hundred cheaper on a sale then they're pretty equal.
Literally BORN for gameplay. You just know
Anon, you're free to do whatever you want and I will always respect your decision.
>LED backlight
>refers to ambiance lighting
>not the actual LED backlight
It looks like the LG C2 line supports Gsync. Do the Samsung QD OLED TVs also support Gsync?
Theres different levels of gsync
s95b is merely compatible
>Amazon