Report via The Vandal (leaked the first Nintendo Switch OLED specs)
>Console confirmed to be as powerful as The Steam Deck, but smaller in size.
https://vandal.elespanol.com/noticia/1350770848/exclusiva-switch-2-conocemos-en-primicia-nuevos-detalles-de-la-proxima-consola-de-nintendo/
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Early 2025 better be janurary cause holy frick the switch is outdated
Bet on March like the Switch
there could be a reveal in fall/winter of this year then
>espanol
no gracias
>el gringito no puede hablar otro idioma
Muchos casos parecidos
El inglés es la puta de los idiomas, todos pueden aprenderlo debido a lo fácil que es. En cambio el español es de los mas difíciles
Y para que? El ingles es el mejor idioma, si lo sabe entonces no ocupa aprender otros. El español solo lo deberian de enseñar en escuelas de estados al borde de mexico.
>t. totally didn't use a translator, trust me bro
No, pero segui creyendo tus fantasías de superioridad tercermundistas
Eyeyeyey, no estoy hablando de vos, calmate. Pero tampoco pienses que eres mejor, lo único que España tiene en inteligente uso del español es en literatura clásica, y no es como que:
1. latinoamerica no lo mostrara en el siglo XX.
2. todas las obran son perfectas. Marianela, un clásico, está sobrevalorada. Es mala, otros trabajos del siglo anterior son mucho mejores.
Al final qué importa, el ingles estadounidense hizo redundante a todos los idiomas, porque siempre hay un autista que traduce algo al inglés. Una excepción fue la traducción de gems para la ps1.
Váyase a tomar por culo buen señor, aquí en España se habla el Castellano y no el Mejicano birrioso y correoso que no tiene ni el más ápice de similitud con esta santa lengua originaria en los monasterios de Suso y Yuso en la Rioja.
Es el mismo idioma mongolo, nadie habla castellano se habla español
>ESI (Español como segundo idioma)
They don't say anything about the console being as powerful as the Deck
t. Mexican
dumb spic
They're not saying that Switch 2will have those specs, they're just saying that there are other rumors about Switch 2 possibly having those specs
The original source of the rumor from OP doesn't say anything about Switch power
'eck equivalent GPU is a 1050ti according to DF
3x series > RTX 2050>1050ti
There's high chance that the Switch 2 RTX 30 Series chip will be at the very least on par with the 'eck
I'd very surprised if it's not considering the 10 Series is already more than 10 years old
That literally doesn't say it's as powerful as the Steam Deck.
It can as powerful as all get out, but if it doesn’t have a Switch 1-tier launch year it’s fricked.
well it's pretty unlikely it will have a zelda or mario kart at launch since those just had content
what about animal crossing?
Too soon for it. A mainline 3D mario is pretty likely though, but other than that, I really don't know. I guess Pokemon Legends ZA could have better visuals / performance on it or maybe even be a cross platform release
>Too soon for it
5 years after the last game is too soon?
I didn't realize it would have been 5 years by then
Mainline Mario, as you call it, has become Mario movies now. You won't see more Mainline Mario. We just got a new Mario game.
The "Switch 2" as you call it, is at least 5 or 6 years away.
excellent bait, or you're just brown
It’ll probably have niche shit like Fire Emblem and Xenoblade. The guy who leaked Engage said it had been finished since 2021 and apparently Xenoblade 3 had been in a finished state for a while.
>3 Smashes
Smash 64 a battle royale, Smash Ultimate rerelease gets new characters, Smash Z is a 1v1 Pokken style separate cameras fighter.
>Mario GTA
Next mainline mario is a Hit and Run style game and it will take on GTA as the game for non degenerates.
>Kart goes Burnout- There will be a rerelease of 8. But the next Mario Kart will be built into the Mario GTA game. It will work like burnout with races on street corners and a seasonal event style monetization system will be how they sell it to you.
Next Zelda tries to bring the new game into the old style.
Classic Plus features both the original Zelda adventure and Link to the Past. Using a modified Link's Awakening engine that is still isometric but a little closer and behind the character. However, the crafting system from BotW/TotK is simplified and brought into the game.
that sounds awful
Wrong. Classic Zelda plus crafting mechanics for the win.
There is something special about the camera angle when done right. Paper Mario aesthetically chases the idea, the pop up/diorama look. 3D mario and Mario Parties all had this look. The world is flat and the characters pop up from it.
It is magic. And Zelda has to go back to this while yes, bringing over the crafting mechanics from the new games. And you can do this without a pause menu as the game requires less buttons than the fully 3D zelda and can have buttons dedicated to crafting navigation.
anon, you shouldnt be a game designer. You are talking out your ass, saying what YOU want to see and deluding yourself as how that itll be a win
just stop. You cannot make games
That's ChatGPT output with the random tangent to Paper Mario.
CHATBOT
Or it might just be that you nihilistic homosexuals have no imagination.
Saying what you want to see...if they make that game how is that not a win?
Nihilists confuse novelty for evolution. BotW and TotK are novelties. "They sold 60 million bruh" The point is not the size of the novelty, it's the expiration date. Nintendo CONSUMED the new Zelda format completely.
Idiot.
yeah but Gamefreak are lazy incompetent morons so no matter how good the hardware is the games are always going to look like shit. i think ToTK is legitimately one of the worst looking games of last year but at least it's competent which is more than you can say about the 3D Pokemon games which literally look like a teenager messing around in Unreal for a youtube video.
i still want remakes of the Oracle games with that dungeon creator thing from the LA remake but with more tiles to play with.
it'll probably have something around the following as easy extras:
>zelda ww/tp double pack
>smash ultimate 'complete' edition just the same game with all dlc
>mario kart 8 ultimate, as a short filler to mario kart <non numbered sequel>, same as smash with all dlc already in
honestly, for first party stuff that'd probably cover a lot of their 'we want to play the same game but on a new console' weird playerbase.
>easy extras:
I think that's what they're going for with the rumoured backwards compatibility that's came from Nintendo talking about how we won't lose our accounts/games attached to them in the future. I can see them upgrading a few older games to look and run better on this system and maybe re-release Switch games with more content like TotK (hence not having DLC) honestly an Animal Crossing New Horizons with more content and better performance would be great, just give it all of the furniture missing from previous games and some more new features, with ability to carry your previous island over from Switch. It helps a new system so much while they can work on sequels and I hope they do it.
>Zelda
True
>Mario Kart
You think that was the A team working on that? I guarantee MK9 is nearly done at this point.
I don't think we'll see a new Mario Kart. It will most likely just be a Mario Kart 8 part 2 package that you can subscribe to.
It's been 10 fricking years at this point
Maybe people should stop buying it then
This is the nature of new games now. A subscription service is bound to make you more money than just selling a game.
And MK8 is as far as the series can go.
This is also why Mario 3D games are moving into movies instead.
>And MK8 is as far as the series can go.
>amount of content is the only way a game can be good and quality is irrelevant
that is indeed how zoomers view gaming but it's sad that nintendo seems to also agree now
I still can't believe they just ported the awful Tour tracks with fricked up proportions and just called it a day.
everyone agrees with this.
why sell someone a car when you can sell them a subscription to a car. the rentier class gets more money in the longer run.
AND IT'S STILL SELLING
>MK9
it will be Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Ultimate Turbo HD Remix & knucles new funky mode with all the content from the Pass and you know it
It's going to launch with MP4 and enough shovelware to satisfy the casual gamer also
They could literally port Xenoblade X and Xenoblade chronicles 2(because the switch version is unplayable trash that needs a remaster that fix the performance), Twilight princess and many other game cube games
XC2 is 100% playable without a single frame drop in the entire game.
No one cares that you cry about resolution when some of the best games are 144p.
>XC2 is 100% playable without a single frame drop in the entire game.
Yeah at 10 fps, its literally unplayable and more obvious when the separated DLC didn't have these problems neither did Xenoblade 3
>XC2
A prime example of the kind of shit fanboys will swallow and pretend is good just to side with their corporation and the hardware they chose to buy. That game is an embarrassment.
The game is perfectly fine. Graphics. Do. Not. Matter.
I wasn't even really talking about the graphics, but that is horrendous on the Switch too. I'd say emulation is a vastly better experience if it weren't such a terrible game to begin with.
You mean a bunch of old gen ports?
This time for sure!!
I mean if you keep saying they'll release their new console the upcoming year over and over, you'll EVENTUALLY be right.
Is it backwards compatible and will eshop purchases transfer over?
All signs point to a strong yes for backwards compatibility
aren't eshop purchases console bound, not account bound, which is you basically get fricked by your console dying?
Not anymore, Switch purchases are now tied to your Nintendo account.
>Bigger
Frick this shit give me 3ds size again and backward with 3ds
If that's true then boy the battery life must be fricking awful
Or Nintendo underclocked the 2.4Ghz processor 0.4x the rated speed again
>New information
>It's fricking nothing
Man the Xbox and PS5 has actual specs leaked months before the reveal.
We've known Switch 2 specs since 2022
>Report
You mean rumour, you belligerent moron.
kek, OP actually falls for stuff like this
>yeah dude, they totally had them put out their hands in a black box and feel... it....
>This is normal behaviour for tech companies im sure!
>we want you to make accessories for our new console.
>great, can I see it?
>no, you can FEEL it.
>works for me
did they fricking revealed the switch 2 using a glory hole?
Yeah, because it's better to show it to them and have a clone released a year before the original.
I'm sure they gave them all the dimensions on paper
All rumors claim that it has less power then the deck, which only makes sense.
Nintendo doesn't have a magical super chip that has more processing power than the switch, while also being cooler, less engergy-consuming and cheaper.
>Most of the inside of the space inside of the deck contributes to cooling or battery
>The deck hardly sells without any margin at approx. 500 USD for a new OLED one, only having a direct sales channel.
>Nintendo won't charge more than 400 USD, but also wants to earn on hardware and is relying on distribution, who also need to add a margin.
Assuming the 400 USD price point for the end user, production of the switch 2 cost approximately 40% to 50% less than the deck. No way it will be both smaller than the deck while having the same raw power.
The Switch 2 chip (T239) has triple the GPU cores of the Steam Deck. It can get the same performance at 550 MHz that the Deck does at 1600 MHz. A bigger chip with lower clocks is more efficient than a smaller chip with higher clocks. Couple that with a likely better node (4N on Switch 2 vs. N6 on Deck OLED) and you absolutely can have a chip that has the same performance as the Deck, while being more energy efficient and smaller, thus cheaper.
>triple the GPU cores of the Steam Deck
Not really a meaningful stat. AMD and Nvidia GPU technology is not directly comparable by core count. This is like saying a Geforce 3080TI is 5x faster than a AMD 6800XT because the 3080TI has 320 cores while the 6800XT only has 60. In reality the 6800XT is the more capable hardware (Windows drivers excluded).
>It can get the same performance at 550 MHz that the Deck does at 1600 MHz
Again, it doesn't work that way, and the Tegra it is not a bigger chip.
Expect a system slightly weaker than the Deck, but which partially makes up for that with post-processing when compared to no post-processing effects on the Deck.
>joycon attachments no longer use rails but magnets
No fricking way. That would be moronic.
This was in one of Nintendo's recent patents IIRC.
Still looks to be a rail system
and the source of this image?
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/6e/7f/12/796551e1aed2ab/US20230338831A1.pdf
literally looks like they repatent the switch again
here's the one from 2016 https://www.neogaf.com/threads/nintendo-files-multiple-nintendo-switch-patents-controller-dock-architecture.1325344/
wtf is this?
Some kind of snap-cover for the rail contacts? Weird.
Looks like an antenna for inductive charging. I think the current Switch does the same thing under the 3 arrow plastic.
Keep scrolling down and you can see what each part is from the numbers attached. For that image, they're explaining the locking mechanism for the joy cons.
Still a rail
>Console confirmed to be as powerful as The Steam Deck, but smaller in size.
>as The Steam Deck
Lol
It can’t be more than $300. With the weakening JPY and inflating USD, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve been scaling back the Switch 2’s capabilities.
It's more powerful than Deck, especially in docked mode.
They have 1 chip they've spent the last 5 years developing. "Scaling back" would require developing a new chip
>It's more powerful than Deck, especially in docked mode.
LMAO
NTA but I believe in docked mode specifically it might be able to draw more watts, I don’t know that that directly correlates to more power because computing is obviously way more complex than just watts drawn, but I’m wondering if that’s what anon is conflating with “more powerful”
The only people who treat Deck as some marvel of engineering never even seen one with their own eyes.
Nope. 1.5TF portable, 2.8TF docked.
>It's almost as powerful as Deck, but only in docked mode
FTFY
Switch 2 will sell worse than Wii U. Nintendo never changes.
How come the magnets don't damage the internal components of the console?
did you know there are magnets inside of a Hard Disk drive? you need a significantly strong magnet to damage it
You would need pretty strong magnets for that. Still the magnetic thing seems kinda moronic, it just screams "accidentally destroyed console by disconnecting a joycon" to me.
There isn't a fricking spinning hard drive in a switch you moron
Yes there is
No there isn't. It's flash memory. The only thing that moves inside the Switch is a fan.
dudes, you can look at it yourselves. theres a spinning hard drive in there
I have and the only thing in it that moves is a fricking fan. There is no HDD and I don't understand the point of implying there is.
That's a cooling hard drive.
what a fricking tech illiterate moron
>hey kid wanna see my Switch 2?
Sounds moronic.
Honestly at this point I'm predicting the switch 2 will sell half as well as the switch. It needs a gimmick for people to latch onto. If it's just a slightly more powerful, slightly bigger switch, it's just going to be another 3DS situation.
>It needs a gimmick for people to latch onto
so what gimmick would you like?
>two screens
>two screens and one of them can be separated from the system
>VR
>AR
>3D screen
>controllers are gloves
>a joy con that you can frick
>10 SCREENS
Gimmicks have always been hit or miss, but I wouldn't mind going back to the clamshell form factor.
Switch's gimmick was HD rumble. No one latched onto that.
You realize 3DS would've done better without the dumb 3D gimmick, right? It would've been much cheaper from the get go and the price cut wouldn't have been necessary to make it going
>Switch's gimmick was HD rumble
Wat. The Switch's gimmick was having HDMI support. Being able to dock it and play it on the big screen, hence the name "Switch".
>You realize 3DS would've done better without the dumb 3D gimmick, right?
moron alert
It was the first console they've ever been forced to take a loss on because of the pointless gimmick.
A gimmick that not even everyone could make use of since about 10% of people can't see those fricking projections at all.
They removed it from later models for a reason.
>strategic decision for a better lineup
>Honestly at this point I'm predicting the switch 2 will sell half as well as the switch
I don't think people realize just how slow Nintendo has gotten with their releases as well. The switch benefited MASSIVELY during its early years from nobody buying a Wii U and they killed off one of their hardware lines. Yet while the switch got a lot of 3rd party support it really didn't get that many nintendo games all things considered. They're not going to have that same benefit here, everyone and their mother bought a switch so now they need to make all new games and if things like totk, no new major 3d mario, prime 4, splatoon 3 being the same game 3 times in a row now, etc. after all this time are any indication, they're slow as frick now.
>the switch benefited MASSIVELY during its early years from nobody buying a Wii U and they killed off one of their hardware lines.
your logic is flawed
if that were true, what did the playstation benefit from to get huge sales? because afaik ps1, 2, 3 all sold well
>if that were true, what did the playstation benefit from to get huge sales?
The same reason the switch did, loads of 3rd party support.
They're most likely holding off from any big title releases until the new console comes out. If I had to guess I'd say Pokémon and Metroid are multi-platform releases coming out around launch.
I don’t give a frick about how powerful a fricking nintendo console is, I have a pc and a PS5 for a reason. Magnetic joycons aren’t going to sell anyone on another system there better be an actual compelling thing going on with this outside of it being more “premium”. No one would actually cares especially since the hardcore gamers that care about powerful hardware can literally just buy a Steam Deck and a Rog Ally or just emulate. If the console isn’t innovative or interesting give me the GAMES
>New mario is guaranteed (mainline “super mario” releases every 2 years)
>metroid prime 4 is probably next year (metroid games release every 4 years now)
>hardware upgraded pokemon z-a could hopefully be competent
>there’s obviously going to be a big holiday title
I also want niche games tho. I hope they’re collabing with some 3rd party studios to make small games that’ll satisfy the hobby-ist out there.
upgraded pokemon z-a could hopefully be competent
Entirely dependent on the software company
>Gamefreak
>effort
LOL
>accessory manufacturers could touch it with their hands but not see it
Legitimately who the frick are you trying to fool with this shit bait?
The guy who inspired twilight and beastars is fricked up.
>as powerful as the deck
>smaller
so its either got a 20 minute battery life or this article is bullshit
>as powerful as the deck
Digital Foundry says "no".
Deck is an old, huge, hastily cobbled together piece of shit, by today's technology standards.
Digital Foundry actually did a test of what the estimated (on Nvidia hack) Switch 2 hardware would be capable of and it blew Deck out of the water. Go watch it and it will make you stop posting stupid comments.
In that podcast you're refering to, Rich was talking about Switch 2 in portable mode and comparing raw FLOP values. It doesn't matter if Switch 2 portable is 1.4TF and Deck is 1.5TF when games on Switch 2 will run and look better.
Switch 2 in docked mode will be ~2x stronger than Deck.
>Switch 2 in docked mode will be ~2x stronger than Deck.
>source: your anus
There is not going to be any power in the dock, that's not how the switch works. DF was talking about the switch's power, period, didn't make any distinction between docked or handheld. I get that this is the only time fanboys get to shitpost about how much more powerful nintendo will be than their competition, but after the N64 and gcn flopped nintendo will always prioritize price and gimmicks, especially in a handheld where they also need to prioritize battery life and size.
yeah thats not how anything works. it cant be smaller AND more powerful without sacrificing battery life. even if its faster than the deck at 15w
maybe docked pulling 30w or whatever it could be stronger but not anywhere near 2x, not even 1.5x, unless the thing is $800+ which it wont be
Are you saying chipsets never improve and die shrinks never occur? A processor from today can be smaller and use less power and be more powerful than a processor from 10 years ago. The switches tegra is basically 10 years old at this point.
NTA, but not to the extent that anon is talking about. We know what it would take for the Switch to be that powerful. We have very direct comparisons now with a bunch of handhelds. What people are asking for is basically a ROG Ally. Nintendo is not going to put out a $500-600 handheld to marginally beat the Deck in specs, especially when they're known for wanting to take a big premium profit. They are not going to sacrifice the size and battery life. Hell even as is the Switch 2 will likely need to be a little bigger no matter what, but I doubt they want it as big as these UMPCs. They want 6 year olds to be able to hold and play these things and that means they want it to be cheap(er) so parents will actually buy it for them, and as small as possible.
My only guess is it could get “close” between the combination of DLSS and platform specific optimizations due to no OS overhead and targeting a singular chipset. I put close in quotes because there’s a lot of wiggle room there between individuals interpretations of what’s close and how upscaling is perceived by people, but that’s the only benefit of the doubt assumption I can give.
i dont think you understand how batteries work but go ahead and keep pretending the switch 2 has some magic future chip that is 50% more efficient and faster
the tech improvements you mention come with a cost in raising the price point past anything nintendo would be aiming for. it literally cant be faster+smaller+good battery+affordable. again that isn't how this works.
>tech specs have been available since the Nvidia hack in 2022
>""""leakers"""" still pretending to have any real insider information
The juggernaut success of the Nintendo Switch is the biggest prolonged nonstop assfricking this board has ever endured.
I'm so glad I was here to witness it unfold in realtime.
I agree that Switch 2 needs to come out swinging strong in games for 1st year, but I think overall it will do "just okay". Nintendo tends to cycle like this where they have a great console, then the next one is mediocre or bad, then they rebound with the next new console that does well and so on.
I think the landscape with AI right now means there isn't going to be consoles, or at least not as we know them, after this next generation.
>m-m-MUH AI!!!!!
All their handhelds did great and Switch 2 like Switch will again be both
The Nintendo "cycle" was never a real thing, it was the result of executives making moronic decisions, competition showing up or market conditions changing and their response being too slow. The overall trend was Nintendo consistently losing ground with the exception of the Wii.
>NES revives and dominates the US gaming market basically unchallenged
>SNES has to face competition from the Genesis, but it still manages to become the market leader, even if hardware sales are slightly lower
>N64 arrives too late and with no third-party support because of the decision to use cartridges and Yamauchi's heavy-handed treatment of third-parties
>GameCube arrives too late, uses mini DVDs with limited storage capacity, has no momentum from previous gen and lacks the multimedia capabilities of the PS2 when DVD playback was a highly desirable feature
>Wii innovates and attracts the casual crowd, but the success is short lived because that audience is fickle and the vast gap in hardware capabilities means there are no third-party support for the core market
>Wii U is a late response to the issues the Wii faced after 2009, except Nintendo insisted on attaching a pointless gimmick that nobody wanted and forgot that eventually Microsoft and Sony were going to release far more capable new consoles, and that's not even mentioning the horrible marketing and long droughts between releases
And their handhelds were always success after success until they made a bunch of moronic decisions with the 3DS.
Even the 3DS was pretty successful, it just suffered from Nintendo's lack of focus on a single system especially early on.
Also not much Nintendo could do about the N64. Sony essentially stole the system from Nintendo by trying to con Nintendo into effectively being reduced to a third-party if they went along with the contract. Nintendo had to develop a new system in a short time and avoid CD-ROM. That experience is what made Nintendo extremely reluctant to buy into any proprietary media format support later for fear of similar hidden terms negotiated in bad faith.
Nintendo and Sony's deal was to develop a CD attachment for the NES, similar to the Sega CD, and work on that started in the late 80s, it was never to develop a fifth gen console. Nintendo didn't opt for cartridges because they had no time to develop a console that used CDs or because Sony controlled the format (protip: they didn't), it was deliberate move.
It was a deliberate move yes, to avoid the terms of a contract that Sony inked with Nintendo.
No Sony did not control the CD format, or optical technology entirely. However, the contract that Nintendo signed with them, whether that was due to bad legal advice, or as some of the rumors say deliberate bad faith on the part of Sony and the Lawyers, stipulated that Nintendo would pay a royalty to Sony for every game sold on optical media, possibly with certain technical descriptions, for a specific set of time, regardless of system.
If Nintendo had stayed on board with the joint project, they would have essentially been a third-party even on their own system paying royalties to Sony.
That is why the SNES CD (Nintendo Playstation) didn't happen, why the N64 used cartridges, also potentially why the Gamecube used mini-DVD, and definitely why Nintendo avoided proprietary media formats that used technology at least in part controlled by Sony for fear of similar poison pill legal terms.
Cool Story Bro!
>Switch pro 2019!
>Switch pro 2020!
>Switch pro 2021! See the Nvidia leak it's confirmed!
>Switch pro 2022!
>2023!
>2024!
How about all these leakers are just fricking attention seeking Twitter gays and need to be hanged.
I think ai upscaling and all of those short cuts are the reason why games today look like they spread Vaseline on my screen.
Just turning off AA does wonders, I like the clean look even with jaggies.
Game engines like the mgs5,totk,nioh2,Mario Odyssey, are all amazing. They are super crisp even the ones running on switch.
Yeah but DEI hires with degrees in game design can only use unreal or unity, have you considered how your post is harmful to black geeky birthing bodies of color?
Can't wait to play the Switch Pro in my self-driving car in [current year+1]
>joy-cons will change their attachment system from rails to a magnetic system, and the current ones won't ve forwards compatible
Then the new console will no longer be a Switch, but it will have another name, it is also a pity that it cannot be compatible with the original joycons
Both PS5 and Xbox Series, allow to play with previous generation controllers, in the case of PS5 only with the PS4 catalog, in the case of Xbox, with all old and new catalog
None will miss joycons, pro controller support is all I need
tell me, do you think there are more pro controllers than joycons per switch user?
it's like saying that nobody would miss the xbox series controller because there is the elite one
it's stupid that they didn't make the most used controller backwards compatible.
well, at least we know that if this is real
there will still be backward compatibility with old joycons
>the console was inside of a black box so accessory manufacturers could touch it but not see it
Sounds dumb and Nintendo enough that I can believe it. With how long it's been taking and how quiet they've been about it they are clearly terrified of the prospect of their one remaining hardware line flopping and are doing everything they can to give it a good launch. Whether or not the decisions they're making for this device and its launch aren't pants on head moronic however remains to be seen. It is Nintendo and I think people often forget how bafflingly stupid they can be and how much their success has fluctuated with each generation.
>Vandal
opinión descartada
it's kinda nuts that if it's going to be one year away, that there's no leaks from the production line or anything
They had gunpei whacked they’ll do the same to anyone who leaks
We're still a year away from the supposed release date. Realistically, you shouldn't expect any factory leaks before September or October, and by that time Nintendo will likely have already announced it anyway.
Leaks from dev kits are another matter, but Nintendo is probably being very picky on who can have one to avoid information getting out.
They are. I still haven't gotten access to the new dev kits yet. t. game dev
>YWNBAW
Why would I want to become the inferior sex?
BYW
If trips, “Wario Kart” and “Wario Party” will be launch titles
>as powerful as 2-year-old hardware that will be 3 years old at time of release in 2025
>probably the OLED will still be more powerful
>doesn't have the range of games Steam Deck has
why can't nintendo just for once, for one time make a good console?
T239 chip already confirms it's gonna be about PS4 power, what more do you seriously want
If it does end up matching the deck's specs it's just a matter of what they had to sacrifice to do it.
OMG guys!!!, Vandal also confirmed an Ocarina of Time Remake might be happening!!!
Better name than Link, to the point that many people think Zelda is the protagonist
>accessory manufacturers can touch but not look the console
what
>magnetic joycons
prepare for the shattered screens
I hope that recent Nintendo patent where the bit with the USB ports on the dock could spin around to face either side makes it in
The intentionql delay bullshit is moronic and i think it will harm rather than help because its goi g to make it feel more dated on release. And steam deck 2 will release the year after and be significantly more powerful, making switch 2 feel even more outdated
>And steam deck 2 will release the year after and be significantly more powerful
It won't be. Probably something like 2x stronger at most. Nowhere close to the gap between Switch and Deck
I think Nintendo is also shooting themselves in the foot taking so long with it, but they probably have to because their games are also taking forever to make and they need to have something at launch or it's dead in the water. But regardless it's just giving more time for people to look at other options and draw these comparisons with the Deck while the Switch has no games left. I'd even say most people who buy a Deck are not going to go back to a console, it's just that much better. And the longer the Switch 2 takes, the less time it has to gain a foothold before AI completely upends this industry.
How are THEIR games taking forever? If you don’t have the graphical fidelity of these AAAA slopfests and your company is devoid of at least most of the DEI shitters American companies have what the FRICK is taking so long?
What should be expected of mk9? "new" mechanics? There's nothing I can think of, it'll just be bundled dlc
Most of the gimmick mechanics in MK8 are shit, so simply getting rid of them would be an improvement.
Woah woah woah woah hold on now
Every Basedtendo YouTuber swore up and down it was 2024
Shitch 2 is DOA
>2025 release
monster hunter wilds release title confirmed leaks are true
Expect an April 2025 release. Nintendo likes to start their fiscal year with a new system, and it gives them time to prep for the systems first holiday rush.
Shitch 2 will be the biggest disaster in gaming
Don't know Spanish but the bog standard low end dev kit T239 SoC from Nvidia, which is the basis of Nintendo's customized version, is 1.6 TFlops. The Steamdeck is about 1.5. Will be about the same. That is to say if Nintendo is doing zero customization. Their version will be on 8nm so it will be more performant at lower power so I'd expect a pretty big clock speed boost on CPU/GPU. They can also use faster LPDDR5 and add additional CUDA and Tensor cores to the package. Realistically it could be 1.5x the Steamdeck but I wouldn't let your hopes up. I'm mostly bummed about it being LCD and not OLED. Hopefully with DLSS we will get access to Nvidia filters too so we can unpissfilter their piss filtered games.
>Realistically it could be 1.5x the Steamdeck but I wouldn't let your hopes up
That might be about right, if we are talking performance per watt. I doubt they will ramp up to 15w outside of docked mode, and when they do they'll be using the extra power to look good on a TV.
Nintendo will normally use the gains to run handheld mode at 6w and deliver roughly Deck level performance at 9w.
I also wouldn't get your hopes up about being able to manage any sort of graphics settings or filters.
There is no solid information on the GPU clocks, the 1.6 TFLOP number itself is based on guesswork on what portable mode would operate at for the SoC choice to make sense.
The upper bounds for the T239 would be 4 TFLOPs at 1.3GHz (the standard clocks for the AGX Orin, which is very unlikely to be used), while the lowest reasonable setting would probably be 550 MHz, resulting in 1.68 TFLOPs (i.e. portable mode performance).
That being said, TFLOPs are not directly comparable across different architectures and there are a lot of other variables, including the Steam Deck being a portable PC (which in itself has plenty of positives and negatives) and running games through a compatibility layer. It's just a pointless argument that leads nowhere.
>guesswork
No... The chip has been available on the open market in devkits for 2 ish years now. I have one running my media server right now. It is
You lying dumbass. You're mistaking T239 for T234. T239 isn't available for sale.
>and running games through a compatibility layer.
Just to be clear, all modern PCs do this.
Even for D3D, DXVK on RadV is practically the same as a vendor driver optimized for their hardware. The only real difference is instead of using using the Vendor's private mid-level API, or Mesa's internal mid-level API, a public low-level API is used.
Deck doesn't suffer any particular penalties, especially when many games get 'ported' to consoles today using similar solutions.
>bog standard low end dev kit T239 SoC from Nvidia,
There are no "bog standard low end dev kit T239".
>That is to say if Nintendo is doing zero customization.
T239 IS the customised version of T234 made specifically for Nintendo.
>Their version will be on 8nm
Process node is unknown. 4nm would be cheaper and cooler.
>add additional CUDA and Tensor cores to the package.
They can't. T239 has 1536 CUDA cores and 48 Tensor cores. If you change that then it will be a new SoC and not T239.
>Realistically it could be 1.5x the Steamdeck but I wouldn't let your hopes up.
At the same clocks as Switch, T239 is 1.5TF portable and 2.8TF docked.
Unlike the current Orin hardware, T239 is designed to be fabbed in bulk quantities. Don't be surprised if some of the cores are sacrificial for the purpose of ensuring high volume.
No.
We don't know the physical parameters of T239. What we know about it comes from NVN2 graphics API. In NVN2 it's coded that the SoC has 1536 cores available for use. That cannot change.
Physically, it might have 3076 cores and half of them disabled, but 1536 cores have to be usable. That's the unchangeable constant.
If that is the case and the NVN2 leak was a final version, then my hypothesis would be that Nvidia might simply be doing a die shrink of the AGX Orin chip, and then planning to sacrifice 4 blocks of cores.
Or doing something like sacrificing 2, and reserving 2 for the system giving games 12.
nintendo is going to find out the hard way that they actually need games that aren't wiiu ports.
switch had wii u ports because nobody played them on wii u, a platform nobody had
it's a miracle mario maker and splatoon were popular enough to cement themselves, let alone hyrule warriors which is a niche idea of "zelda dynasty warriors" in the first place
>a bit bigger than the current Switch but nowhere close to Deck
Black person, they're literally the same fricking thing.
can these idiots stop lying about shit? What is even the point of letting accessory makers touch but not look at the console? that couldnt be more fake even if you tried!
I hope I can transfer all of my shit on Switch 1 to Switch 2. I have like 480GB worth of games on it.
Nintendo's latest report said all digital games and purchases will transfer, but no official confirmation if it will be backwards compatible with physical games too. I can't see why it wouldn't be, but Nintendo is a wild card company so who knows.
>as powerful as The Steam Deck
lol lmao you nintrannies never learn
Link's Adventure looked amazing in an incredibly limited way. It was all a 45 degree angle camera trick.
The new game will do what Link's Awakening did in engine as opposed to with trickery. This allows a sort of free camera. The game Super Lucky's Tale is a great example. It plays isometrically, and the camera can spin around the character, and also zoom in incredibly tight.
What the gays in this thread don't understand is how incredible the tilt shift effect will look when it isn't locked to a single plane. It's not a trick. It's actually rendered in engine dynamically. Rotate and zoom at will. Mindblowing!
Oh, I forgot to mention the horses. Isometric Zelda games will get the addition of Epona and that will be a game changer. You know it is true.