I don't play WoW but every day I miss the enjoy of playing dungeons and LFG raids
There is not a single fantasy game which lets you play with randoms and do stock-standard fantasy class based roles in instances and it hurts me. I just want to play a fighter or paladin or mage and run dungeons without all the bullshit which MMOs bring.
>Modern WoW LFG > GO GO GO GO GOTTA GO FAST WHY DON'T YOU KNOW THE SKIP GO GO GO I HAVE TO PULL HALF THE INSTANCE NO TIME TO LISTEN TO THE DIALOGUE OR TAKE IN THE AMBIENCE GO GO FRICK GO GO
I'm glad 5 mans are relevant to end-game in some way, but holy frick M+ culture is fricking cancerous. Blizzard would improve the game massively by cutting the number of dungeons in each expansion in half and instead having them all be megadungeons with hard bosses.
>He thinks playing wow is a matter of skill in any regard
I play WoW to enjoy the ambience of the world. I play literally any other fricking game when I want to feel like I'm good at something. I'm fully capable of any and all activities in WoW because I'm not a geriatric, but why the frick would I want to when it's all tedious garbage and everyone involved in it is a massive homosexual? In short, Blizzard should make the dungeon dialogue unskippable, remove every skip, and make each dungeon five times as long just so moronic Black folk like you stop playing and patricians like me are actually catered to.
You getting filtered by m+ because you can't stop pulling like a b***h is a skill issue, yes. Please stop coping about it
Nobody good at the game wants more cutscenes and RP in their way, it's only dogshit players asking for it
10 months ago
Anonymous
I'd love a standard pay-to-play game that's just that: co-op M+. No MMO bullshit: just a lobby, a bunch of classes and a bunch of dungeons. And then expansions add more classes and more dungeons.
I like playing M+ with my friends, but man it's a fricking pain in the ass to get there. First you need to get a class to max level, then you need to reach a minimum item level, then you need to farm somewhat decent gear otherwise you get oneshot over +15. And then for the absolute best gear you need to play vault roulette every week.
For frick's sake, why can't I just do the fun part.
[...]
Dude, M+ is a time attack mode. If you don't like going fast, don't do M+.
>WoW """powergamers""" are so moronic that they couldn't parse the fact that I'm talking about the LFG(Normal and Heroic) being full of people trying to rush through because M+ changed the culture of the game
And you dysgenic homosexuals get mad when people say WoW is full of brain rotted morons.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Except it didn't, people people were skipping everything way before m+
You would know this if you weren't dhit at the game, but alas...
10 months ago
Anonymous
Been playing this game since before you were able to read. There were always people that wanted to clear fast especially late into expansions, but it's a question of degrees. There has never been as many zoomies angry at any and all delay in normal and heroic dungeons like there are now.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The guy you're talking to probably grew up with twitch and doesn't know this, but it's caused by that culture. People watch twitch streamers and youtubers for hours now, who have large audiences that tell them exactly what the best, most optimized way to beat something is. The people who watch then want to imitate their cool streamer/youtuber friend.
Also, just the aspect of having access to free full strategy guides and videos for every single game is part of the issue. Back in the boomeren days you would be buying strategy books for that. Today you watch a youtube vid while you eat if you're gay enough
10 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine these homosexuals doing OG Sunken Temple or BRDs.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Imagine people doing even easier dungeons
Okay and?
Did you miss 2019 where everyone just AoEd their way through dungeons with mages and warlocks?
The issue here is still you being bad at the game, hence why you think classic would be a barrier to people doing +28s
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Zoomie literally too brain broken to even grasp the point I'm making >can only relate it to "hurr it's ez"
When the dopamine from WoW stops working you will unironically troon out.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Your "point" is more boomer nonsense pretending like classic wasn't shallow as frick and defined by being bad at the game
When good (or even passable) players go into classic it gets steamrolled, nothing about BRD or Sunken Temple change that
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Did you miss 2019 where everyone just AoEd their way through dungeons with mages and warlocks?
Lmao this little zoomie doesn't know that classic WoW had all classes at naxx powerlevel from the start
10 months ago
Anonymous
>literal boomer cope after it was proven the old game was a toddler level joke
10 months ago
Anonymous
>being on patch 1.12 item and class balance to clear 1.0-1.3 content is "boomer cope"
lmao
keep digging
10 months ago
Anonymous
Everyone knows online guides didn't exist before 2014, they were invented by Twitch streamers.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Online guides existed back in the days of vanilla WoW, but they cost money. I distinctly remember people laughing at the tryhard homosexuals who actually paid up for the one popular guide at the time and belittling them online.
You had forums but that was no different from here where you mostly just shit on eachother
10 months ago
Anonymous
And yet in almost 20 years you haven't learned to hit your buttons and pull at a proper pace, strange
10 months ago
Anonymous
>y-you're just bad
homosexual, I already told you that I play well. Hitting buttons and pressing W to move forward isn't hard. You aren't hardcore for being good at WoW. It's just tedious and boring and removes the main appeal of the MMO RPG genre. You like being a mindless rat in a maze, that's cool, but stop acting like it's impressive.
10 months ago
Anonymous
But you don't play well, or you would be clearing these dungeons must faster
Pulling 2 mobs at a time while everyone is sitting on their cooldowns is not playing well
10 months ago
Anonymous
>removes the main appeal of the MMO RPG genre
I don't necessarily disagree with you... >Hitting buttons and pressing W to move forward isn't hard. You aren't hardcore for being good at WoW
...but this is cope. M+ is hard as frick, if you think it's easy it means you aren't pushing high enough keys.
10 months ago
Anonymous
It's infinitely scalable. So yeah, it becomes borderline impossible at higher keys, but 85% of players stick to key levels that a monkey could accomplish.
10 months ago
Anonymous
It's infinitely scalable... so it's infinitely hard. I agree with the other Anon when he says "MMOs should be about exploring a world"... a concept even Vanilla WoW undermined by adding instances. I used to play Lineage 2, and in that game everyone shared the same world. Always.
But when he says "MYTHIC PLUS ISN'T EVEN HARD, IT'S JUST UNFUN. JUST PRESS YOUR BUTTONS, ANYONE CAN DO IT", this is just cringe.
>M+ is hard as frick, if you think it's easy it means you aren't pushing high enough keys.
Not him but YOU'RE coping. Benchmark gameplay isn't hard, it's just benchmarking. You eventually simply get limited by simple math. If you honestly think that >Our party capable of doing 890m effective damage over 15 min can't beat the 900m collective HP of this dungeon before the 15 mins run out?? this is so hard???????
is engaging and/or hard you might genuinely be a simpleton. But then again I am talking to a modern WoW player, someone who got stuck in the skinner box for roughly 15 years longer than everyone else.
Unless you're a top 50 player, you're not anywhere near being limited by math. You just suck at the game and that's fine, I suck at the game as well. But I don't pretend I would be able to clear the absolute highest keys because I know I suck.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>M+ is hard as frick, if you think it's easy it means you aren't pushing high enough keys.
Not him but YOU'RE coping. Benchmark gameplay isn't hard, it's just benchmarking. You eventually simply get limited by simple math. If you honestly think that >Our party capable of doing 890m effective damage over 15 min can't beat the 900m collective HP of this dungeon before the 15 mins run out?? this is so hard???????
is engaging and/or hard you might genuinely be a simpleton. But then again I am talking to a modern WoW player, someone who got stuck in the skinner box for roughly 15 years longer than everyone else.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Okay so post your IO doing +27s
I mean people have done +29s so obviously there isn't a number barrier, where are your +27s?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>what? you said being able to do the required 870m damage in 15 minutes with your party capable of doing 890m damage in 15 minutes ISN'T difficult? >Heh, post your chimp memory test right now kid...
>I mean people have done +29s so obviously there isn't a number barrier,
but this line really takes the cake. People got to the number barrier, so obviously there isn't a number barrier. Got it, makes sense. I'm sure that one day players will simply get so good they'll figure out how to magically circumvent things like highest possible sandbag dps that mathematically limit how high you can do these benchmark things.
10 months ago
Anonymous
So there isn't a number barrier to doing 27s, thanks for reaffirming that
Yet you can't do them
What's wrong? Not good enough?
And yes players do keep getting better and pushing higher as the season progresses, yet you aren't good enough to come close to those keys never mind clear them. It's not a number issue
10 months ago
Anonymous
are you mentally ill? is your sole rebuttal to the fact that you're engaging in the most basic of basic math problems and calling it "skill based gameplay" that I'm not playing this shit game?
rat stuck in a maze moment
10 months ago
Anonymous
Bro! You don't want to play troony wienersucker 9000? Pffft, you just aren't good enough to actually play this very skillful game. Get out of her man. Show me your lets play of clearing the game if you think the game is easy :v)
10 months ago
Anonymous
>start lying about the game and making excuses >can't actually back it up when called out and just continue to seethe about the actual good players clearing hard content
Yeah sure definitely not a shitter coping lmao
10 months ago
Anonymous
But it's obviously not a math problem, because people are clearing the highest keys >I'm not playing
Right, you don't know what you're talking about and you aren't good enough to push keys, so you start coping about your own inferiority
Literally just stop being shit you moron
Why would I be listening to dialogue past my 1st visit? What's wrong with you?
legitimate game design problem. Other games solve this by making people run a story version of the dungeon to unlock the repeatable version. This has only benefits because it means you can take in the sights your first time, and it allows them to flesh the story out more (because you can then just make it skippable for the repeat version)
>make it skippable for the repeat version
Since it's a completely different version of the dungeon, they don't even have to make it "skippable". They can remove dialogues entirely and make the dungeon layout as straight-forward as possible.
On the other hand, they can add a ton of RP in story-mode dungeons (maybe even allow the party to interact with the story in different ways: dialogue options, different paths...), since these are specifically designed for people who enjoy this kind of stuff.
The current "one size fits all" approach hurts both types of players.
I'd love a standard pay-to-play game that's just that: co-op M+. No MMO bullshit: just a lobby, a bunch of classes and a bunch of dungeons. And then expansions add more classes and more dungeons.
I like playing M+ with my friends, but man it's a fricking pain in the ass to get there. First you need to get a class to max level, then you need to reach a minimum item level, then you need to farm somewhat decent gear otherwise you get oneshot over +15. And then for the absolute best gear you need to play vault roulette every week.
For frick's sake, why can't I just do the fun part.
[...]
Dude, M+ is a time attack mode. If you don't like going fast, don't do M+.
My bad, I can't read. You meant LFG and M+ "culture", not M+ itself. In that case yeah, you're right.
But you don't play well, or you would be clearing these dungeons must faster
Pulling 2 mobs at a time while everyone is sitting on their cooldowns is not playing well
You're legitimately too moronic to understand the first post you responded to from me, let along any of the other posts I've typed out explaining my point of view. You're a moronic Black person and probably an ESL Hispanic, so I'll attempt to explain it to your cum filled brain one more time before every response from me becomes a stream of racial slurs. Mythic + isn't hard, it just isn't fun. Anybody who thinks mindlessly pressing rotations while speed running dungeons is fun is a massive fricking moron and unironically Mazed the frick out. People used to play MMOs to be a part of a larger world and go on adventures with their friends, now they do it to do the same shit over and over again with no meaningful variation in gameplay. People like you are little better than humonculi who live to mindlessly pay money for the privileges of pressing rotations and chimping out when you miss a par time.
>Mythic + isn't hard, it just isn't fun.
You don't get to make this claim when you're too shit to even do normal dungeons as a reasonable pace. Obviously it's harder than you can manage >mindlessly pressing rotations
Is not m+, which you would know if you could actually do a key. M+ is nonstop CC and cooldown management and 100x harder than any dungeons that came before >People used to play MMOs to be a part of a larger world and go on adventures with their friends
And you can do m+ with your friends. I mean obviously (You) can't because you don't have friends, but normal people can >now they do it to do the same shit over and over again
Welcome to MMOs, the genre where people will chop trees for 75 hours or run Molten Core every week for 2 years farming Bindings. You only hate m+ because you're bad
10 months ago
Anonymous
>If you don't like something.... YOU'RE JUST BAD AT IT
I really wish we'd turn all of South America into nuclear cobalt. Subhumans like this don't deserve to breath air.
10 months ago
Anonymous
It's obvious that you're bad at it when every complain comes down to either objective lying or is applicable to every mmo forever
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Not even denying that he's South American
Dumb shitskin. You should learn not to talk back to your betters.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Unlike you I'm actually white, which is why I can use my brain and hit my spells properly
Favela monkeys can't stand m+
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah yeah, I know plenty of you hispanic monkeys think you're white just because you're pale enough to pass in poor lighting, Jose. In truth, you're still a south American moron. You have more in common with those Favela monkeys than you'll ever have with someone living in the first world.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You don't live in the first world europoor
10 months ago
Anonymous
>You aren't white... >Wait yes you are but you're Europoor!!!!
This is just sad. Truly just sad. I'm a Blue Eyed pale skinned white man living in the US. Keep coping though Hernandez.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>europoors >white
lmao
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's a new cope, Santiago, I will give you that. But not exactly relevant as I wasn't born in Europe.
10 months ago
Anonymous
No I'm sure you were born in Pakistan before moving for gibs
None of this deflecting changes the fact that you're too dogshit at wow to handle m+
10 months ago
Anonymous
>blue eyed >from pakistan
Oh, I'm laffin. Really, I'm laffin.
Not once have you denied being from South America, btw. It's so hilarious how you can just always tell when the uppity moron is a Hispanic. Every single time, without fail.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You shouldn't like about your eyes Muhammad
They're colored just like your skin
10 months ago
Anonymous
I am not Middle Eastern, nor am I South Asian. See, since I'm white, I have no trouble telling you what I'm not. Unlike you, who for some odd reason hasn't denied being South American yet.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't say anything about Asians, but since you brought it up it couldn't be more clear that you're a SEAmonkey
Ook ook eek ook
10 months ago
Anonymous
>moronic Hispanic doesn't even know basic geography
Pakistanis are South Asian, not Middle Eastern, you moronic monkey.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody outside of lying bong propaganda ever calls Pakistanis Asian
10 months ago
Anonymous
>India is literally in Asia >Pakistan is just the Muslim parts of India broken off into it's own country >Hurr I'm a moronic fricking South American shitskin so that means only the bongs call Indians Asians
South Asian is a catchall turn for people from the Indian subcontinent
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Pajeets are asians
Lmao Black person please.
Pakis, Africans, Indians, Turks and whatever other Black persontribes are all the same muddle-easter subhumans.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>average American education
10 months ago
Anonymous
The whole world is disgusted by you and your kind.
Stop calling yourselves asians when you clearly are just a bunch of disgusting animals
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's thr Chinks... and the fricking Chechens fighting on Hololand are whiter than Americans...
Whhy would Blizzard do that when they're directly responsible for creating the culture in the first place? Since TBC they've been catering to autists like
You getting filtered by m+ because you can't stop pulling like a b***h is a skill issue, yes. Please stop coping about it
Nobody good at the game wants more cutscenes and RP in their way, it's only dogshit players asking for it
slowly making the game worse driving away normal people until all that's left are people who kick you if you haven't watched the video on how to do a newly released dungeon.
Blizzard WANTS this culture.
The game having actual depth and challenge isn't making it worse shitter
Only nu-Ganker would ask for more normalgay friendly cinematic garbage over actual gameplay
>depth and challenge
weird way to say "following the youtube video guide for the solved encounter, with your choice of rhythm game or whack a mole rotation"
WoW will never be a hyper-skill game and catering to that audience is making it worse. Once someone cracks the formula for the PVE League of Legends, the mazed+ crowd will leave because there's 0 benefit to that style gameplay existing within a persistent world
10 months ago
Anonymous
You can make or follow a guide for every video game, that has no bearing on them being deep or skill centric
WoW is clearly able to be a hyper skill game with bosses that demand 500+ attempts to clear, and that's for the best players
I'd love a standard pay-to-play game that's just that: co-op M+. No MMO bullshit: just a lobby, a bunch of classes and a bunch of dungeons. And then expansions add more classes and more dungeons.
I like playing M+ with my friends, but man it's a fricking pain in the ass to get there. First you need to get a class to max level, then you need to reach a minimum item level, then you need to farm somewhat decent gear otherwise you get oneshot over +15. And then for the absolute best gear you need to play vault roulette every week.
For frick's sake, why can't I just do the fun part.
>Modern WoW LFG > GO GO GO GO GOTTA GO FAST WHY DON'T YOU KNOW THE SKIP GO GO GO I HAVE TO PULL HALF THE INSTANCE NO TIME TO LISTEN TO THE DIALOGUE OR TAKE IN THE AMBIENCE GO GO FRICK GO GO
I'm glad 5 mans are relevant to end-game in some way, but holy frick M+ culture is fricking cancerous. Blizzard would improve the game massively by cutting the number of dungeons in each expansion in half and instead having them all be megadungeons with hard bosses.
Dude, M+ is a time attack mode. If you don't like going fast, don't do M+.
Blizzard is so lax with taking those down that I genuinely believe they have some sort of thing where they just ask for a cut of the private server profits and quietly let them keep operating.
In short, you're probably still giving them shekels indirectly. Or at the very least populating a server that does.
Nah, Blizzard just can't touch any overseas hosting without massive expenditures. That's why they had to intimidate/honeypot Nostalrius into closing, their C&Ds are essentially toilet paper if you're not an amerishart.
If you seriously play WoW in 2023, then you should, continue doing playing what you want. I haven't played WoW in years, but I'm not gonna care if anyone else does, it's your time and money, not mine.
It doesnt even matter, they could shit out an expansion where the main plot is about ERPing in Goldshire and it would still sell because every other non-asiatic company is to scared to release their games.
People only die in wow until it's convenient for them to come back. The only franchise where death holds less significance is dbz. It's why the night elf trannies screaming for Sylvanas's death were so unhinged. It literally means nothing. That leak is still bullshit but not for that reason.
>evil mode >mmoc garbage leak >not in broken english >saying dragonriding is coming to gryphons when it's actualy comng to almost every single flying mount
here's a real leak: we are getting static flight (old flying) and dynamic flying (current flying)
I fricking hate WoW, it's the least fun I've ever had playing a game in my life. The ONLY reason I even have battlenet installed on my pc is because my friends all play it and they pay for my sub so we can play something together. >inb4 just play something else
I do, frequently. >inb4 get different friends
They're good guys who are fun to hang out with, they just have atrociously shit taste in multiplayer vidya.
Wow, some gryphon animations. How about they add some actual content? They've added 2 zones with nothing to do except kill rare spawns and a bunch of invasion events that are glorified world quests except somehow even longer and more boring
It's not on maintenance mode, they just gave up on quality and are just pushing out whatever shit they can as fast as they can and releasing things completely unbalanced and broken.
If Classic is so good why's everyone pay people to help them skip the entire game?
>It was never planned for launch
Yea because they delayed it because they didn't have time.. that is exactly what I said what in the frick are you saying
Shadowlands was cut Classic content. They just didn't create Shadowlands until 2020 and then expect us to buy it again. Biggest scam of the century.
There have already been several hearthstone OCs coming into the "real" world of wow
Also the most recent OC is a brown woman titan and since titans are supposed to be involved in the new big bad boy plot you can 100% she will be there since she is well... brown and a woman.
Literally already confirmed new specs lmao
The leak mentioned them before Blizzard said they're on their way after they see how Augmentation lizards do
Literally already confirmed new specs lmao
The leak mentioned them before Blizzard said they're on their way after they see how Augmentation lizards do
Lmao. There is no way they are going to add new specs, they can't even balance the specs they already have and refuse to do what people want with them. They keep hunter survival a shit melee DPS no one wants and refuse to make it tank. The game severely needs a mail tank, and instead we get a shit meme melee spec and a dragon bard. I fricking hate these moronic devs so much. Hunter would make such a cool tank, they could make it so you merge with your pets to gain their HP and abilities or something.
>they could make it so you merge with your pets to gain their HP and abilities or something. >calls devs stupid >suggests merging with hunter pet
please
Works great in GW2. Way more fun than survival in WoW, anyway. It makes more sense than magically doing more damage when your pet isn't out like Marksmanship.
>Way more fun than survival in WoW, anyway
If you don't think current SV is fun you're an absolute clown. The spec plays off itself, almost no RNG procs to worry about, high RPM. Much better than any other incarnation fo the spec, and yes that includes ranged survival
Hunter Tank should be similar to Rexxar (HotS) where you have to manage both your HP pools weaving taunts/aggro between you and your pet. Would be cool. But yeah if they do 4th specs they will copy preexisting specs in some way with a new coat of paint for ease of balance.
>cut out a spec from expansion launch to release it 6 months later >wow dude come on they literally just released one
You can not seriously be this moronic. I bet you also think the mega dungeon wasn't cut from patch 10.1 to release it later to pad content out
It's been too long and was clearly never planned since it was never added. Augmentation data mining came out so fast after expansion release it was clearly planned from the start and cut for later.
10 months ago
Anonymous
So was BFA cut content for Legion since we had BFA files in Legion?
I know you have downs or something, but they announced the evoker specs for launch far before launch. It was far before they had even done the other class trees.
It was never planned for launch
>It was never planned for launch
Yea because they delayed it because they didn't have time.. that is exactly what I said what in the frick are you saying
10 months ago
Anonymous
You're saying they knew they wouldn't have time for Augemtation months before release before even touching other specs once
But they just knew they wouldn't have time for the flagship class somehow
>Prot Warrior, the "true tank class" from the very beginning >Currently the shittiest tank in the game even after getting a 6% damage buff >Was only the best for half a patch at the start of the expansion, and it was half due to a bugged talent >Otherwise has been a shit tank for 2 expansions now
Rogues are getting shafted too
Really because of Mythic+ affixes, more than half the classes in the game are objectively incorrect choices simply because Blizzard keep adding in fricking affixes that you literally cannot do anything to help with
It is genuinely shocking that this expac has been fun considering how fricking awful the devs are
>Ballooning one fricking zone for an expansions continent >Another flavor of human as a new race >Class order halls again >"Tough" ""Choices"" >changing the standard group size >making NEW body types and animations instead of rehashing old skeletons >Ever letting players play as the bad guys
I love spoilers season, you see the most amusing bullshit. If the next expansion is anything like this I'll resub out of spite for how stupid it is.
>Don't care, is the free to play rumor true or nah?
I doubt it. It's funny just how old WoW's free trial is at this point. So much so that free trials barely exist anymore.
i don't want any of this. i didn't ask for any of this. really i just want classic+ (vanilla with tweaks) but honestly i'd settle for classic again with better bot/gold selling detection (big ask i know)
nuBlizzard dont know what they're doing or what people want. it's been painfully obvious since late Legion.
I wonder if they're increasing the group size so they add support classes as a mandatory addition to each dungeon group because the current enhancement evokers keep getting kicked cause WoW Black folk don't understand rdps
WoW expansions, for the past 5 expansions or so, only "leak" like a few weeks before they're announced. 2023 isn't an expansion announcement year, so we'll only get it next year.
Legion, BFA, Shadowlands and Dragonflight all leaked weeks before Blizzcon
>N-no you're dum!
So they're doing a Blizzcon to announce nothing, despite when Blizzcon occurs Dragonflight will be as old as literally every other expansion was when their next expac was announced?
Only because Blizzcon didn't happen a few months earlier you moron.
Fricking have a nice day you fricking trannies
DIE DIE NO ONE WILL MISS YOU just fricking stab yourselves in front of your pets you fricking loser c**ts
Every two years huh?
2006 for TBC
2007 for WotLK
2009 for Cata
2011 for MoP
2013 for WoD
2015 for Legion
2017 for BFA
2019 for SL
2022 for DF
Woah that's fricking weird isn't it? So either they're going to announce nothing at Blizzcon this year or they're catching up on DF being announced via a zoom call. Hmmmm
10 months ago
Anonymous
>World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade (abbreviated as TBC or BC) is the first expansion for World of Warcraft. It was announced on 28 October 2005 >World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King (abbreviated as WotLK, WLK or Wrath) is the second World of Warcraft expansion and was officially announced on 3 August 2007 at BlizzCon 2007. >World of Warcraft: Cataclysm was officially announced on August 21, 2009 at BlizzCon 2009. >World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria (abbreviated as MoP or Mists) is the fourth expansion pack for World of Warcraft. It was officially announced on October 21, 2011 at BlizzCon 2011 >World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor (abbreviated as WoD or Warlords) is the fifth expansion pack[2] for the massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) World of Warcraft. It was officially announced on 8 November 2013 at BlizzCon 2013.
And so on.
Yes, every 2 years. DF was 3 because of COVID aids, moron.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Which would mean 2023 is when 11.0 is announced
10 months ago
Anonymous
It SHOULD be this year, but COVID shit means that 2020 was basically a wasted year for them.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Ooooh you so just have some weird fan fiction going on
Carry on
2800 before i got bored and realized how much of a joke the game is. could easily 3k without a core group. you get 2500 for literally just playing the game. wow will always be easy since it doesn't have any sort of mechanical execution. just follow your script moron.
nta but it is literally solved. Honorbuddy (prior to being shut down) as able to execute perfect boss strats and DPS rotation.
The game is mechanically solved and has been since Cataclysm, which is why the game needs to put even the tiniest bit of effort into the unscriptable parts of the game (e.g. PVP) if it wants to stay alive until 12.0
Honor buddy never came close to that you moron, rotation bots never covered boss mechanics nor do they properly play around the boss, just straight training dummy damage
Cataclysm is when the game actually started to get harder and less predictable. No more 1 button rotation macros or tank and spank bosses >pvp >not scripted
lmao, just kicking on CD with a kickbot is like free 2200 at least
10 months ago
Anonymous
Honorbuddy was actually completely capable of boss mechanics, I botted raids from Siege of Orgrimmar up to Emerald Nightmare before my 6 month suspension and it never had an issue. Hell the only dungeon I ever got clocked in was Maraudon because of a pathing bug.
And yeah, Cataclysm was when the game became more "advanced" but it was also when the community pulled their heads out of their arses (which was a big mistake, the game was more fun when everyone was moronic).
>just kicking on CD with a kickbot is like free 2200 at least
lmao true
but if you played during the Honorbuddy era, you'd remember the hordes of guys running mounted up between two points in every bg. There's too many moving parts and variables in pvp to nail it with a script the same way you can one of the braindead pve encounters
10 months ago
Anonymous
No, you didn't, because bots never did boss mechanics and especially not honorbuddy
Meanwhile in PvP there are bots that do everything:
The reason honorbuddy bots were so basic is that it's not worth the time spent making extremely deep bots when just running around or gathering is enough for most bothers to be happy and pay for it writing a full script for each class and encounter would be far too time consuming, but you would know that if you ever actually botted
10 months ago
Anonymous
I think you're thinking of glider bro because honorbuddy had plugins on the forum for every single raid
10 months ago
Anonymous
No there aren't.
Find a video of a bot clearing actual raids in MoP or WoD
Nobody is going to take the time to set up every boss meticulously
Pretty cool that they stopped raising the odds and focused on updating the existing world and lore.
Too bad the harm has already been done and the existing is ruined.
So this "leak" predicted >Dragonriding coming to gryphons (confirmed via datamining) >the fact that Dragon Isles will be the new level 10+ experience >New specs (just confirmed in an interview)
Not looking good sisters
I don't want to go back to the old world
>increasing level cap again
What the frick was the point of the level crunch if we're gonna be 4 expansions away from where we started? Blizzard ripped off Guild Wars 2's dragonriding, might as well steal their horizontal progression model too at this point.
>Blizzard ripped off Guild Wars 2's dragonriding
They ripped off half the game, from dynamic open-world events (still way better in GW2, it's not even close) to fractals (fractals are shit, M+ is better). They even changed the wardrobe/transmog system to make it like GW2.
>6man dungeon
Please no, there's enough idiots fricking up in m+.
They are probably doing this to force tank/heal/assist/2dps groups.
They can also rererelease old dungeons and say it will be entirely new because it's a new different perspective with 6 players.
I wanna play I miss monk tbh also they're adding the hot nelf racial gear in which i quit in the first place cause they said they wouldn't make it so players could use it
Seriously, this fake leak is too fake to even be amusing. They refused to kill Sylvanas off because of "muh marketability" like they'd get rid of Alliance and Horde.
>post is 99% wild speculation >remaining 1% is something that Blizzard would reasonably do at some point >"1% thing happened, it means everything in this post must be true!"
Don't care - tell me when they add anything that isn't literally just fricking PvE and PvP. They've basically neglected everything but that. It's been what, two decades, and crafting is fricking boring so is their gathering?
Besides pvp and pve what else is there to do besides role play in a mmo? Rp I guess kek >gathering
Yes give us something like mining from runescape. How exciting
World of Warcraft: The Futa Crusade >story revolves around the Draenei (female) >takes place on Horse wiener Island, the home of the Futanari Empire >new class: Semen Demon (exclusive to Draenei, Blood Elves, Female Humans, and Gnomes) >new customisation options: pronouns >subscribe to the 12-month subscription to receive the Draenei Horse Mount (your character is the actual mount)
About time, but i already quit.
Unless a miracle happens and WoW 2: Draenei Titty Boogaloo comes out, and by some subsequent series of miracles doesn't suck undead tauren wiener, i don't think i can return.
Things could be so good bro.
>since the events of Dragonflight, the Horde has all but disbanded
There has been frick-all related to the Horde & Alliance in Dragonflight. There's no reason for them to disband now. They didn't when Garrosh became evil, they didn't when Sylvanas became evil. Why would they 5 years later?
>garrosh did not break the horde >sylvanas did not break the horde >a 20 year old mmo invaded by trannies and furhomosexuals will finally break the horde…
moronic
Yeah Blizzard is
Anyone who plays WoW should kill themselves. If you're playing WoW in 2023, you should have your skull caved in with a brick.
>t. triggered XIV troony
Rent fricking free
>NOOOOOOO BUT MY ECELEBS SAY EVERYONE MUST LIKE THE troony GAME
drown yourself in your own piss gayboy
Jesus the animoo troons are assmad
Rent free
throw yourself into an industrial meat grinder homosexual
rent free
I cant believe how mind broken Blizzardgays are over a goddamn chinese dressup simulator. Hilarious.
>Buckbroken blizzdrone immediately screeching about the best RPG ever made
Rent free
But he wasn't talking about Baldur's Gate 2
Rent free.
this but any MMO in general
I play wow and I agree
>Anyone who plays MMO's should kill themselves. If you're playing an MMO in 2023, you should have your skull caved in with a brick.
ftfy
change the word WoW to MMOs and we're good
This, but I will say a lot of people playing are probably just old and not wanting to let go on what they grew up with
FF gays are 10000000x worse than wowgays though
t. no sub but I still sometimes want to resub just to go do all the old raids again
nice
God damnnnn. Moar.
I play for a month or two every expansion, it's fun but there's not enough content to keep you subbed for two years straight.
I don't play WoW but every day I miss the enjoy of playing dungeons and LFG raids
There is not a single fantasy game which lets you play with randoms and do stock-standard fantasy class based roles in instances and it hurts me. I just want to play a fighter or paladin or mage and run dungeons without all the bullshit which MMOs bring.
>I miss the enjoy
>Modern WoW LFG
> GO GO GO GO GOTTA GO FAST WHY DON'T YOU KNOW THE SKIP GO GO GO I HAVE TO PULL HALF THE INSTANCE NO TIME TO LISTEN TO THE DIALOGUE OR TAKE IN THE AMBIENCE GO GO FRICK GO GO
I'm glad 5 mans are relevant to end-game in some way, but holy frick M+ culture is fricking cancerous. Blizzard would improve the game massively by cutting the number of dungeons in each expansion in half and instead having them all be megadungeons with hard bosses.
Literally just stop being shit you moron
Why would I be listening to dialogue past my 1st visit? What's wrong with you?
>He thinks playing wow is a matter of skill in any regard
I play WoW to enjoy the ambience of the world. I play literally any other fricking game when I want to feel like I'm good at something. I'm fully capable of any and all activities in WoW because I'm not a geriatric, but why the frick would I want to when it's all tedious garbage and everyone involved in it is a massive homosexual? In short, Blizzard should make the dungeon dialogue unskippable, remove every skip, and make each dungeon five times as long just so moronic Black folk like you stop playing and patricians like me are actually catered to.
You getting filtered by m+ because you can't stop pulling like a b***h is a skill issue, yes. Please stop coping about it
Nobody good at the game wants more cutscenes and RP in their way, it's only dogshit players asking for it
>WoW """powergamers""" are so moronic that they couldn't parse the fact that I'm talking about the LFG(Normal and Heroic) being full of people trying to rush through because M+ changed the culture of the game
And you dysgenic homosexuals get mad when people say WoW is full of brain rotted morons.
Except it didn't, people people were skipping everything way before m+
You would know this if you weren't dhit at the game, but alas...
Been playing this game since before you were able to read. There were always people that wanted to clear fast especially late into expansions, but it's a question of degrees. There has never been as many zoomies angry at any and all delay in normal and heroic dungeons like there are now.
The guy you're talking to probably grew up with twitch and doesn't know this, but it's caused by that culture. People watch twitch streamers and youtubers for hours now, who have large audiences that tell them exactly what the best, most optimized way to beat something is. The people who watch then want to imitate their cool streamer/youtuber friend.
Also, just the aspect of having access to free full strategy guides and videos for every single game is part of the issue. Back in the boomeren days you would be buying strategy books for that. Today you watch a youtube vid while you eat if you're gay enough
Imagine these homosexuals doing OG Sunken Temple or BRDs.
>Imagine people doing even easier dungeons
Okay and?
Did you miss 2019 where everyone just AoEd their way through dungeons with mages and warlocks?
The issue here is still you being bad at the game, hence why you think classic would be a barrier to people doing +28s
>Zoomie literally too brain broken to even grasp the point I'm making
>can only relate it to "hurr it's ez"
When the dopamine from WoW stops working you will unironically troon out.
Your "point" is more boomer nonsense pretending like classic wasn't shallow as frick and defined by being bad at the game
When good (or even passable) players go into classic it gets steamrolled, nothing about BRD or Sunken Temple change that
>Did you miss 2019 where everyone just AoEd their way through dungeons with mages and warlocks?
Lmao this little zoomie doesn't know that classic WoW had all classes at naxx powerlevel from the start
>literal boomer cope after it was proven the old game was a toddler level joke
>being on patch 1.12 item and class balance to clear 1.0-1.3 content is "boomer cope"
lmao
keep digging
Everyone knows online guides didn't exist before 2014, they were invented by Twitch streamers.
Online guides existed back in the days of vanilla WoW, but they cost money. I distinctly remember people laughing at the tryhard homosexuals who actually paid up for the one popular guide at the time and belittling them online.
You had forums but that was no different from here where you mostly just shit on eachother
And yet in almost 20 years you haven't learned to hit your buttons and pull at a proper pace, strange
>y-you're just bad
homosexual, I already told you that I play well. Hitting buttons and pressing W to move forward isn't hard. You aren't hardcore for being good at WoW. It's just tedious and boring and removes the main appeal of the MMO RPG genre. You like being a mindless rat in a maze, that's cool, but stop acting like it's impressive.
But you don't play well, or you would be clearing these dungeons must faster
Pulling 2 mobs at a time while everyone is sitting on their cooldowns is not playing well
>removes the main appeal of the MMO RPG genre
I don't necessarily disagree with you...
>Hitting buttons and pressing W to move forward isn't hard. You aren't hardcore for being good at WoW
...but this is cope. M+ is hard as frick, if you think it's easy it means you aren't pushing high enough keys.
It's infinitely scalable. So yeah, it becomes borderline impossible at higher keys, but 85% of players stick to key levels that a monkey could accomplish.
It's infinitely scalable... so it's infinitely hard. I agree with the other Anon when he says "MMOs should be about exploring a world"... a concept even Vanilla WoW undermined by adding instances. I used to play Lineage 2, and in that game everyone shared the same world. Always.
But when he says "MYTHIC PLUS ISN'T EVEN HARD, IT'S JUST UNFUN. JUST PRESS YOUR BUTTONS, ANYONE CAN DO IT", this is just cringe.
Unless you're a top 50 player, you're not anywhere near being limited by math. You just suck at the game and that's fine, I suck at the game as well. But I don't pretend I would be able to clear the absolute highest keys because I know I suck.
>M+ is hard as frick, if you think it's easy it means you aren't pushing high enough keys.
Not him but YOU'RE coping. Benchmark gameplay isn't hard, it's just benchmarking. You eventually simply get limited by simple math. If you honestly think that
>Our party capable of doing 890m effective damage over 15 min can't beat the 900m collective HP of this dungeon before the 15 mins run out?? this is so hard???????
is engaging and/or hard you might genuinely be a simpleton. But then again I am talking to a modern WoW player, someone who got stuck in the skinner box for roughly 15 years longer than everyone else.
Okay so post your IO doing +27s
I mean people have done +29s so obviously there isn't a number barrier, where are your +27s?
>what? you said being able to do the required 870m damage in 15 minutes with your party capable of doing 890m damage in 15 minutes ISN'T difficult?
>Heh, post your chimp memory test right now kid...
>I mean people have done +29s so obviously there isn't a number barrier,
but this line really takes the cake. People got to the number barrier, so obviously there isn't a number barrier. Got it, makes sense. I'm sure that one day players will simply get so good they'll figure out how to magically circumvent things like highest possible sandbag dps that mathematically limit how high you can do these benchmark things.
So there isn't a number barrier to doing 27s, thanks for reaffirming that
Yet you can't do them
What's wrong? Not good enough?
And yes players do keep getting better and pushing higher as the season progresses, yet you aren't good enough to come close to those keys never mind clear them. It's not a number issue
are you mentally ill? is your sole rebuttal to the fact that you're engaging in the most basic of basic math problems and calling it "skill based gameplay" that I'm not playing this shit game?
rat stuck in a maze moment
Bro! You don't want to play troony wienersucker 9000? Pffft, you just aren't good enough to actually play this very skillful game. Get out of her man. Show me your lets play of clearing the game if you think the game is easy :v)
>start lying about the game and making excuses
>can't actually back it up when called out and just continue to seethe about the actual good players clearing hard content
Yeah sure definitely not a shitter coping lmao
But it's obviously not a math problem, because people are clearing the highest keys
>I'm not playing
Right, you don't know what you're talking about and you aren't good enough to push keys, so you start coping about your own inferiority
legitimate game design problem. Other games solve this by making people run a story version of the dungeon to unlock the repeatable version. This has only benefits because it means you can take in the sights your first time, and it allows them to flesh the story out more (because you can then just make it skippable for the repeat version)
This seems the best solution.
>make it skippable for the repeat version
Since it's a completely different version of the dungeon, they don't even have to make it "skippable". They can remove dialogues entirely and make the dungeon layout as straight-forward as possible.
On the other hand, they can add a ton of RP in story-mode dungeons (maybe even allow the party to interact with the story in different ways: dialogue options, different paths...), since these are specifically designed for people who enjoy this kind of stuff.
The current "one size fits all" approach hurts both types of players.
Gay roadblock in my way is not an only beneficial change, nor is making my leveling dungeons slower because some gay wants to read the rp
My bad, I can't read. You meant LFG and M+ "culture", not M+ itself. In that case yeah, you're right.
Mythic+ and raiding are both aids
Yep.
You're legitimately too moronic to understand the first post you responded to from me, let along any of the other posts I've typed out explaining my point of view. You're a moronic Black person and probably an ESL Hispanic, so I'll attempt to explain it to your cum filled brain one more time before every response from me becomes a stream of racial slurs. Mythic + isn't hard, it just isn't fun. Anybody who thinks mindlessly pressing rotations while speed running dungeons is fun is a massive fricking moron and unironically Mazed the frick out. People used to play MMOs to be a part of a larger world and go on adventures with their friends, now they do it to do the same shit over and over again with no meaningful variation in gameplay. People like you are little better than humonculi who live to mindlessly pay money for the privileges of pressing rotations and chimping out when you miss a par time.
>Mythic + isn't hard, it just isn't fun.
You don't get to make this claim when you're too shit to even do normal dungeons as a reasonable pace. Obviously it's harder than you can manage
>mindlessly pressing rotations
Is not m+, which you would know if you could actually do a key. M+ is nonstop CC and cooldown management and 100x harder than any dungeons that came before
>People used to play MMOs to be a part of a larger world and go on adventures with their friends
And you can do m+ with your friends. I mean obviously (You) can't because you don't have friends, but normal people can
>now they do it to do the same shit over and over again
Welcome to MMOs, the genre where people will chop trees for 75 hours or run Molten Core every week for 2 years farming Bindings. You only hate m+ because you're bad
>If you don't like something.... YOU'RE JUST BAD AT IT
I really wish we'd turn all of South America into nuclear cobalt. Subhumans like this don't deserve to breath air.
It's obvious that you're bad at it when every complain comes down to either objective lying or is applicable to every mmo forever
>Not even denying that he's South American
Dumb shitskin. You should learn not to talk back to your betters.
Unlike you I'm actually white, which is why I can use my brain and hit my spells properly
Favela monkeys can't stand m+
Yeah yeah, I know plenty of you hispanic monkeys think you're white just because you're pale enough to pass in poor lighting, Jose. In truth, you're still a south American moron. You have more in common with those Favela monkeys than you'll ever have with someone living in the first world.
You don't live in the first world europoor
>You aren't white...
>Wait yes you are but you're Europoor!!!!
This is just sad. Truly just sad. I'm a Blue Eyed pale skinned white man living in the US. Keep coping though Hernandez.
>europoors
>white
lmao
That's a new cope, Santiago, I will give you that. But not exactly relevant as I wasn't born in Europe.
No I'm sure you were born in Pakistan before moving for gibs
None of this deflecting changes the fact that you're too dogshit at wow to handle m+
>blue eyed
>from pakistan
Oh, I'm laffin. Really, I'm laffin.
Not once have you denied being from South America, btw. It's so hilarious how you can just always tell when the uppity moron is a Hispanic. Every single time, without fail.
You shouldn't like about your eyes Muhammad
They're colored just like your skin
I am not Middle Eastern, nor am I South Asian. See, since I'm white, I have no trouble telling you what I'm not. Unlike you, who for some odd reason hasn't denied being South American yet.
I didn't say anything about Asians, but since you brought it up it couldn't be more clear that you're a SEAmonkey
Ook ook eek ook
>moronic Hispanic doesn't even know basic geography
Pakistanis are South Asian, not Middle Eastern, you moronic monkey.
Nobody outside of lying bong propaganda ever calls Pakistanis Asian
>India is literally in Asia
>Pakistan is just the Muslim parts of India broken off into it's own country
>Hurr I'm a moronic fricking South American shitskin so that means only the bongs call Indians Asians
South Asian is a catchall turn for people from the Indian subcontinent
>Pajeets are asians
Lmao Black person please.
Pakis, Africans, Indians, Turks and whatever other Black persontribes are all the same muddle-easter subhumans.
>average American education
The whole world is disgusted by you and your kind.
Stop calling yourselves asians when you clearly are just a bunch of disgusting animals
That's thr Chinks... and the fricking Chechens fighting on Hololand are whiter than Americans...
Whhy would Blizzard do that when they're directly responsible for creating the culture in the first place? Since TBC they've been catering to autists like
slowly making the game worse driving away normal people until all that's left are people who kick you if you haven't watched the video on how to do a newly released dungeon.
Blizzard WANTS this culture.
The game having actual depth and challenge isn't making it worse shitter
Only nu-Ganker would ask for more normalgay friendly cinematic garbage over actual gameplay
>depth and challenge
weird way to say "following the youtube video guide for the solved encounter, with your choice of rhythm game or whack a mole rotation"
WoW will never be a hyper-skill game and catering to that audience is making it worse. Once someone cracks the formula for the PVE League of Legends, the mazed+ crowd will leave because there's 0 benefit to that style gameplay existing within a persistent world
You can make or follow a guide for every video game, that has no bearing on them being deep or skill centric
WoW is clearly able to be a hyper skill game with bosses that demand 500+ attempts to clear, and that's for the best players
Do it without DBM and WeakAuras
So even after people have optimized their UI the bosses STILL take 500+ pulls?
Sounds hyper skill intensive to me
No, more like poorly designed garbage such as the boss abilities that blend into the environment making these addons mandatory
You won't do it
There's not a single mechanic you need addons for
Use your eyes moron
I'd love a standard pay-to-play game that's just that: co-op M+. No MMO bullshit: just a lobby, a bunch of classes and a bunch of dungeons. And then expansions add more classes and more dungeons.
I like playing M+ with my friends, but man it's a fricking pain in the ass to get there. First you need to get a class to max level, then you need to reach a minimum item level, then you need to farm somewhat decent gear otherwise you get oneshot over +15. And then for the absolute best gear you need to play vault roulette every week.
For frick's sake, why can't I just do the fun part.
Dude, M+ is a time attack mode. If you don't like going fast, don't do M+.
Unsubbing is also okay!
I'll never give Blizzard another shekel after Legion but I will use private servers to satisfy my itch every so often
Blizzard is so lax with taking those down that I genuinely believe they have some sort of thing where they just ask for a cut of the private server profits and quietly let them keep operating.
In short, you're probably still giving them shekels indirectly. Or at the very least populating a server that does.
Nah, Blizzard just can't touch any overseas hosting without massive expenditures. That's why they had to intimidate/honeypot Nostalrius into closing, their C&Ds are essentially toilet paper if you're not an amerishart.
Sorry chud, based Microsoft owns Blizzard now, which makes playing WoW okay now. Get with the times.
If you seriously play WoW in 2023, then you should, continue doing playing what you want. I haven't played WoW in years, but I'm not gonna care if anyone else does, it's your time and money, not mine.
Isn't alterac that zone inside the Hillsbrad foothills with all the ogres? They're really balloon out the map that much?
Also betting on the Alterac humans being 100% black only
They've been ballooning out the map that much since MoP.
It doesnt even matter, they could shit out an expansion where the main plot is about ERPing in Goldshire and it would still sell because every other non-asiatic company is to scared to release their games.
>alliance and horde are broken but in game nothing's changed
kek disappointing enough to be real
>return of X'era
Illidan annihilated her outright in Legion. Could have at least took a glance at previous expansion's event before spouting bullshit.
Kael'thas coming back in the Sunwell patch? Bullshit, we killed him in Tempest Keep.
That was merely a setback
People only die in wow until it's convenient for them to come back. The only franchise where death holds less significance is dbz. It's why the night elf trannies screaming for Sylvanas's death were so unhinged. It literally means nothing. That leak is still bullshit but not for that reason.
>Illidan annihilated her outright in Legion.
Then why does the Mag'har BFA story talk about her and Yrel conquering Draenor?
Because thats a different timeline
Was your mind just blown then?
There’s two versions of everyone technically because of wod, they just use that expac to ass pull characters when they need to
>evil mode
>mmoc garbage leak
>not in broken english
>saying dragonriding is coming to gryphons when it's actualy comng to almost every single flying mount
here's a real leak: we are getting static flight (old flying) and dynamic flying (current flying)
I fricking hate WoW, it's the least fun I've ever had playing a game in my life. The ONLY reason I even have battlenet installed on my pc is because my friends all play it and they pay for my sub so we can play something together.
>inb4 just play something else
I do, frequently.
>inb4 get different friends
They're good guys who are fun to hang out with, they just have atrociously shit taste in multiplayer vidya.
>They're good troons who are fun to dilate with
>Having your friends pay you to play a game you hate
Lol. You're both c**ts and pussies at the same time.
Cool but who asked?
Wow, some gryphon animations. How about they add some actual content? They've added 2 zones with nothing to do except kill rare spawns and a bunch of invasion events that are glorified world quests except somehow even longer and more boring
WoW is on maintenance mode, you aren't getting more than that ever again
It's not on maintenance mode, they just gave up on quality and are just pushing out whatever shit they can as fast as they can and releasing things completely unbalanced and broken.
Dragonflight added 6 zones, moron
>2023
>still playing retail
lmao
>t.classictard still stuck in 2004
you will never get those years back
Except we kinda did in 2019...hmm. think you're just frickin moronic.
Yeah 2019 showed everyone that Classic sucked ass
If Classic is so good why's everyone pay people to help them skip the entire game?
Shadowlands was cut Classic content. They just didn't create Shadowlands until 2020 and then expect us to buy it again. Biggest scam of the century.
So the whole map is just going to be a repeat of the Alliance half of BfA with a bunch of Classic nostalgia? Not interested
troony
>heartstone is being integrated to wow
My heart. Shame Dracthyrs are fricking awful.
There have already been several hearthstone OCs coming into the "real" world of wow
Also the most recent OC is a brown woman titan and since titans are supposed to be involved in the new big bad boy plot you can 100% she will be there since she is well... brown and a woman.
I can't believe what has happened to this once cool setting
no 4th specs no buy. and they already ruined mage 4th spec it should've been a time based healer but they gave it to shitty evokers.
Literally already confirmed new specs lmao
The leak mentioned them before Blizzard said they're on their way after they see how Augmentation lizards do
Lmao. There is no way they are going to add new specs, they can't even balance the specs they already have and refuse to do what people want with them. They keep hunter survival a shit melee DPS no one wants and refuse to make it tank. The game severely needs a mail tank, and instead we get a shit meme melee spec and a dragon bard. I fricking hate these moronic devs so much. Hunter would make such a cool tank, they could make it so you merge with your pets to gain their HP and abilities or something.
>they could make it so you merge with your pets to gain their HP and abilities or something.
>calls devs stupid
>suggests merging with hunter pet
please
Works great in GW2. Way more fun than survival in WoW, anyway. It makes more sense than magically doing more damage when your pet isn't out like Marksmanship.
>Way more fun than survival in WoW, anyway
If you don't think current SV is fun you're an absolute clown. The spec plays off itself, almost no RNG procs to worry about, high RPM. Much better than any other incarnation fo the spec, and yes that includes ranged survival
Hunter Tank should be similar to Rexxar (HotS) where you have to manage both your HP pools weaving taunts/aggro between you and your pet. Would be cool. But yeah if they do 4th specs they will copy preexisting specs in some way with a new coat of paint for ease of balance.
They literally just added a new spec this month
>cut out a spec from expansion launch to release it 6 months later
>wow dude come on they literally just released one
You can not seriously be this moronic. I bet you also think the mega dungeon wasn't cut from patch 10.1 to release it later to pad content out
why are you being mean to blizzard
So when are they going to release the "cut" Demon Hunter spec?
It's been too long and was clearly never planned since it was never added. Augmentation data mining came out so fast after expansion release it was clearly planned from the start and cut for later.
So was BFA cut content for Legion since we had BFA files in Legion?
I know you have downs or something, but they announced the evoker specs for launch far before launch. It was far before they had even done the other class trees.
It was never planned for launch
>It was never planned for launch
Yea because they delayed it because they didn't have time.. that is exactly what I said what in the frick are you saying
You're saying they knew they wouldn't have time for Augemtation months before release before even touching other specs once
But they just knew they wouldn't have time for the flagship class somehow
>The game severely needs a mail tank
Make it Shaman like it was supposed to be originally
This
>Prot Warrior, the "true tank class" from the very beginning
>Currently the shittiest tank in the game even after getting a 6% damage buff
>Was only the best for half a patch at the start of the expansion, and it was half due to a bugged talent
>Otherwise has been a shit tank for 2 expansions now
Rogues are getting shafted too
Really because of Mythic+ affixes, more than half the classes in the game are objectively incorrect choices simply because Blizzard keep adding in fricking affixes that you literally cannot do anything to help with
It is genuinely shocking that this expac has been fun considering how fricking awful the devs are
sounds moronic so it must be real
>alteraci humans
this is too moronic even for blizzard
I wish I had your naive optimism
>new expansion is about fighting crime
I don't believe it. ACAB
alterac humans are all george floyds and the main campaign is about defunding the police
>Ballooning one fricking zone for an expansions continent
>Another flavor of human as a new race
>Class order halls again
>"Tough" ""Choices""
>changing the standard group size
>making NEW body types and animations instead of rehashing old skeletons
>Ever letting players play as the bad guys
I love spoilers season, you see the most amusing bullshit. If the next expansion is anything like this I'll resub out of spite for how stupid it is.
Don't care, is the free to play rumor true or nah? that's all I care about
Of course not
>Don't care, is the free to play rumor true or nah?
I doubt it. It's funny just how old WoW's free trial is at this point. So much so that free trials barely exist anymore.
Since it only goes to lvl 20 it doesn't even matter having it
They may add WoW to GamePass at some point, maybe. Straight-up F2P is unlikely.
It's more ""meaningful"" now (20 levels out of 70) than it was before (20 levels out of 120), so there's that.
i don't want any of this. i didn't ask for any of this. really i just want classic+ (vanilla with tweaks) but honestly i'd settle for classic again with better bot/gold selling detection (big ask i know)
nuBlizzard dont know what they're doing or what people want. it's been painfully obvious since late Legion.
>i didn't ask for any of this.
No one asked you
The market did. And I answered (didn't spend any money on nuWoW)
Same, King.
And nuWoW is still trekking on without you. Apparently you didn't matter.
that's some top tier cope
odd hill to die on for blizzslop but ok
Do you genuinely think you killed WoW?
my aim has never been to kill it, in fact i'd love to see WoW flourish! which is why i'd gladly pay for better versions of the game (vanilla/tbc)
>vanilla/tbc
Wow I love having no content, no depth, no balance and no challenge
Cookie clicker gameplay is so cool!!
Are you talking about classic or retail
Did you really think that "no you" cope was going to work when everyone admits classic is a literal joke where bosses fall over in 1 pull
>no balance
tell me you play a human male ret paladin without telling me you play a human male ret paladin
>getting mogged by classic since 2019
>a game made by better men in a better time
its trekking on fumes and you know it
Nobody is playing classic boomers, it's a literal joke game
I'm sorry you can't hit your buttons and retail is too hard for you
I wonder if they're increasing the group size so they add support classes as a mandatory addition to each dungeon group because the current enhancement evokers keep getting kicked cause WoW Black folk don't understand rdps
Huh... They also just announced Dragon Isles would be the new default leveling experience this week. They didn't do that for SL.
>Cata 2.0 involves outright deleting everything that came before it just like original cata
I can believe that
We're not getting Cata 2.0
Dragon Isles isn't deleting anything
Meds
>evil mode
Again?
WoW expansions, for the past 5 expansions or so, only "leak" like a few weeks before they're announced. 2023 isn't an expansion announcement year, so we'll only get it next year.
Legion, BFA, Shadowlands and Dragonflight all leaked weeks before Blizzcon
>2023 isn't an expansion announcement year
moron
Dragonflight was announced last year.
They NEVER announced 2 expansions in back-to-back years, moron
>N-no you're dum!
So they're doing a Blizzcon to announce nothing, despite when Blizzcon occurs Dragonflight will be as old as literally every other expansion was when their next expac was announced?
Fricking have a nice day you fricking trannies
DIE DIE NO ONE WILL MISS YOU just fricking stab yourselves in front of your pets you fricking loser c**ts
more mentally ill than actual trannies
They've announced an expansion every 2 years since the very beginning, morons.
Every two years huh?
2006 for TBC
2007 for WotLK
2009 for Cata
2011 for MoP
2013 for WoD
2015 for Legion
2017 for BFA
2019 for SL
2022 for DF
Woah that's fricking weird isn't it? So either they're going to announce nothing at Blizzcon this year or they're catching up on DF being announced via a zoom call. Hmmmm
>World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade (abbreviated as TBC or BC) is the first expansion for World of Warcraft. It was announced on 28 October 2005
>World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King (abbreviated as WotLK, WLK or Wrath) is the second World of Warcraft expansion and was officially announced on 3 August 2007 at BlizzCon 2007.
>World of Warcraft: Cataclysm was officially announced on August 21, 2009 at BlizzCon 2009.
>World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria (abbreviated as MoP or Mists) is the fourth expansion pack for World of Warcraft. It was officially announced on October 21, 2011 at BlizzCon 2011
>World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor (abbreviated as WoD or Warlords) is the fifth expansion pack[2] for the massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) World of Warcraft. It was officially announced on 8 November 2013 at BlizzCon 2013.
And so on.
Yes, every 2 years. DF was 3 because of COVID aids, moron.
Which would mean 2023 is when 11.0 is announced
It SHOULD be this year, but COVID shit means that 2020 was basically a wasted year for them.
Ooooh you so just have some weird fan fiction going on
Carry on
Only because Blizzcon didn't happen a few months earlier you moron.
retail has no depth and no challenge. the game is in a permanent state of being solved. just follow your script moron
Post your IO
2800 before i got bored and realized how much of a joke the game is. could easily 3k without a core group. you get 2500 for literally just playing the game. wow will always be easy since it doesn't have any sort of mechanical execution. just follow your script moron.
Sure bro post it.
WoW is entirely about execution, it's not a secret how to play your class or what boss mechanics are, but people don't execute them
nta but it is literally solved. Honorbuddy (prior to being shut down) as able to execute perfect boss strats and DPS rotation.
The game is mechanically solved and has been since Cataclysm, which is why the game needs to put even the tiniest bit of effort into the unscriptable parts of the game (e.g. PVP) if it wants to stay alive until 12.0
Honor buddy never came close to that you moron, rotation bots never covered boss mechanics nor do they properly play around the boss, just straight training dummy damage
Cataclysm is when the game actually started to get harder and less predictable. No more 1 button rotation macros or tank and spank bosses
>pvp
>not scripted
lmao, just kicking on CD with a kickbot is like free 2200 at least
Honorbuddy was actually completely capable of boss mechanics, I botted raids from Siege of Orgrimmar up to Emerald Nightmare before my 6 month suspension and it never had an issue. Hell the only dungeon I ever got clocked in was Maraudon because of a pathing bug.
And yeah, Cataclysm was when the game became more "advanced" but it was also when the community pulled their heads out of their arses (which was a big mistake, the game was more fun when everyone was moronic).
>just kicking on CD with a kickbot is like free 2200 at least
lmao true
but if you played during the Honorbuddy era, you'd remember the hordes of guys running mounted up between two points in every bg. There's too many moving parts and variables in pvp to nail it with a script the same way you can one of the braindead pve encounters
No, you didn't, because bots never did boss mechanics and especially not honorbuddy
Meanwhile in PvP there are bots that do everything:
The reason honorbuddy bots were so basic is that it's not worth the time spent making extremely deep bots when just running around or gathering is enough for most bothers to be happy and pay for it writing a full script for each class and encounter would be far too time consuming, but you would know that if you ever actually botted
I think you're thinking of glider bro because honorbuddy had plugins on the forum for every single raid
No there aren't.
Find a video of a bot clearing actual raids in MoP or WoD
Nobody is going to take the time to set up every boss meticulously
Pretty cool that they stopped raising the odds and focused on updating the existing world and lore.
Too bad the harm has already been done and the existing is ruined.
And also trannies and furries
>new expansion zone is (anything but more islands)
This is how you can tell a leak is fake
So this "leak" predicted
>Dragonriding coming to gryphons (confirmed via datamining)
>the fact that Dragon Isles will be the new level 10+ experience
>New specs (just confirmed in an interview)
Not looking good sisters
I don't want to go back to the old world
Blizzcon exists still?
I like the sounds of that Sewer area. Sounds like peak kino design for ganking.
I like killing people in Sewers. Spent a lot of time invading the Sewers of every souls game that's had a Sewers.
>increasing level cap again
What the frick was the point of the level crunch if we're gonna be 4 expansions away from where we started? Blizzard ripped off Guild Wars 2's dragonriding, might as well steal their horizontal progression model too at this point.
60 is a decrease, moron
Nobody plays GW2 for a reason, stop shilling your dead game
Because muh numbers brooooooooooooooo
how can I get my dopamine fix if I'm only hitting 1000 damage instead of hitting for 1,000,000
>Blizzard ripped off Guild Wars 2's dragonriding
They ripped off half the game, from dynamic open-world events (still way better in GW2, it's not even close) to fractals (fractals are shit, M+ is better). They even changed the wardrobe/transmog system to make it like GW2.
>from dynamic open-world events (still way better in GW2, it's not even close)
This is from RIFT you moron
still seems rather early to start with the fake rumors. saw an other thread with a completely different "leak"
How many things were proven true from the other leak? This one has 3 for 3 so far.
Sounds like shit. Why don't you old men play a game with actually good expansion? Lmao
stop shilling your troonshit
>troonshit
He says while posting in a wow thread. Lmao
WoW and GW2 have troony devs
XIV has troony players
ESO is pure
ESO only has devs that actively hate the game.
Pure shit, yeah
Trust the angered wowcuck to talk about trannies when represented with hot sexy waifus
>wow
troony game
>ff xiv
troony game
>6man dungeon
Please no, there's enough idiots fricking up in m+.
They are probably doing this to force tank/heal/assist/2dps groups.
They can also rererelease old dungeons and say it will be entirely new because it's a new different perspective with 6 players.
I wanna play I miss monk tbh also they're adding the hot nelf racial gear in which i quit in the first place cause they said they wouldn't make it so players could use it
God I hate anyone who still plays this shit
>factions fall apart in the story
>still keep the faction shit in for gameplay
Yeah that sounds pretty genuine to me already.
Seriously, this fake leak is too fake to even be amusing. They refused to kill Sylvanas off because of "muh marketability" like they'd get rid of Alliance and Horde.
>post is 99% wild speculation
>remaining 1% is something that Blizzard would reasonably do at some point
>"1% thing happened, it means everything in this post must be true!"
Hindsight is 20/20
Keep coping wowbuck
The old flying mounts being able to dragon ride is old news. It was announced a long ass time ago anon
Don't care - tell me when they add anything that isn't literally just fricking PvE and PvP. They've basically neglected everything but that. It's been what, two decades, and crafting is fricking boring so is their gathering?
Besides pvp and pve what else is there to do besides role play in a mmo? Rp I guess kek
>gathering
Yes give us something like mining from runescape. How exciting
>Yes give us something like mining from runescape. How exciting
>false dichotomies
Most genuine anon in this thread
this is actually so fricking stupid, like, it's so incredibly fricking stupid, i could believe it's real
i felt the same about the shadowlands leak
World of Warcraft: The Futa Crusade
>story revolves around the Draenei (female)
>takes place on Horse wiener Island, the home of the Futanari Empire
>new class: Semen Demon (exclusive to Draenei, Blood Elves, Female Humans, and Gnomes)
>new customisation options: pronouns
>subscribe to the 12-month subscription to receive the Draenei Horse Mount (your character is the actual mount)
in the next expansion, azeroth will be enslaved by red hot alien bawds
Blizzard hire this man.
WoW Arena players that casually level on Classic servers over a year+ time period PvP'ing and dicking around are a cut above all others.
we are getting eredar customizations for draenei, so 1st step is already done
About time, but i already quit.
Unless a miracle happens and WoW 2: Draenei Titty Boogaloo comes out, and by some subsequent series of miracles doesn't suck undead tauren wiener, i don't think i can return.
Things could be so good bro.
>defeat titans and old gods
>NOOO SOME BANDITS WITH A DAGGER
Lmao, this expansion sounds great but frick power creep is always going to be an elephant in the room now
>Horde has all but disbanded
RIP BOZUG
I will have my 45% stun resist on private servers, you can watch the centaur buttfrick
Fricking moronic, Alterac was completely obliterated and her people killed or scattered to the winds.
>since the events of Dragonflight, the Horde has all but disbanded
There has been frick-all related to the Horde & Alliance in Dragonflight. There's no reason for them to disband now. They didn't when Garrosh became evil, they didn't when Sylvanas became evil. Why would they 5 years later?
>garrosh did not break the horde
>sylvanas did not break the horde
>a 20 year old mmo invaded by trannies and furhomosexuals will finally break the horde…
if you think there is a difference between ff14 and modern wow players you are wrong. both are ugly and moronic
true chads play era or ff11
Name one WoW leak that was actually correct
That one chinese guy predicted everything after Mists.