>Be con artist chud >Decide to dropship Alibaba parts and put them in a black makeshift box. >Engrave a logo from a logo generator website on the box. >Put in buzz words about "Web 3.0" and "blockchain" to attract crypto fricks. >Frick up because you don't know jack shit about video game consoles.
here's the whole conversation, part 1.
this crypto homosexual shit will flop on impact and i cannot fricking wait to witness the seething. im so glad to know this shit will not infest every single one of my hobbies.
>here's 20+ posts explaining what would make me buy your console >What will make you interested in buying the Polium One console?
Is their twitter run by a bot?
>shinking that maybe the anon was deceiving me >see the whole conversation >the polium dude say that they are in talks with developers >cant name 1 game in the console
They aren't games, and they aren't worth time and effort. For once, both sides of the political spectrum agree how shit nfts are, that's something you may never see again.
so reduce this down for me. what is a blockchain game? is it basically a video game that distracts you while your hardware is being used to mine coins?
It's like one of those early 2000's website, text-only "MMORPG" games I imagine.
Except these have the NFT/crypto grifting twist and are solely targeted at adults
You know gacha games on phones where morons spend real money to unlock jpegs of their waifu? A blockchain game is exactly that except only one jpeg of every unlock exists, so if somebody gets the SSSRG pull of Nero getting doubleteamed by two disembodied black penises in her swimsuit outfit, literally nobody else is able to get that one anymore. The best anybody can hope for is the SSSRG pull of Nero getting doubleteamed by two disembodied black penises in her PE athlete uniform instead.
the problem is that you wrap around the top of "value" right back over into "worthless"
how many gacha jpgs exist? infinite, so long as you're willing to keep pulling the handle on the slot machine. You saw the streamer get five of the girl you want, so you keep going. Rare, but attainable
One of a kind holographic super secret? Neat if you got it, impossible to get otherwise, and it is a lot easier to bilk you into gambling for a hit then it is for you to mortgage your home to buy the picture from the guy who did get it
You know gacha games on phones where morons spend real money to unlock jpegs of their waifu? A blockchain game is exactly that except only one jpeg of every unlock exists, so if somebody gets the SSSRG pull of Nero getting doubleteamed by two disembodied black penises in her swimsuit outfit, literally nobody else is able to get that one anymore. The best anybody can hope for is the SSSRG pull of Nero getting doubleteamed by two disembodied black penises in her PE athlete uniform instead.
the problem is that you wrap around the top of "value" right back over into "worthless"
how many gacha jpgs exist? infinite, so long as you're willing to keep pulling the handle on the slot machine. You saw the streamer get five of the girl you want, so you keep going. Rare, but attainable
One of a kind holographic super secret? Neat if you got it, impossible to get otherwise, and it is a lot easier to bilk you into gambling for a hit then it is for you to mortgage your home to buy the picture from the guy who did get it
Its even worse than that. Everything in the game is exchange-able for real money, basically, and is meant to be a "play to earn" environment. So it isn't like the devs can just say "Hey, this isn't fun anymore we won't want a bunch of constant chinese grinders selling this item" or "Hey, instead of selling in-game gold for what Alex Jones thinks he can get someone to pay, we'll standardize it so people can pay for their subscription with gold, or pay for a month's subscription token and sell that to other players who have gold, so its controlled and of benefit to the game and player" . No, the entire point of the game is now about monetization, fun is not really part of the equation, its about ROI. That atop needless NFT-style "only one person can get this item AND they can sell it to other people on the same blockchain hurrr" when its perfectly possible for any game to have a database where only one item drops and users can trade it to each other and use it within the game, now its about turning it into a commodity for speculation that can be pegged to another crypto and ultimately a real fiat amount. The entire idea is asinine and hostile to the very idea of gaming as an activity for fun and enjoyment.
Oh and the Ouya didn't die because of a lack of market necessity, it died because it had a shitty business plan and didn't embrace being an Android set top box early enough. You COULD use one as a regular Android box for sideloading shit, but it was separate from the Ouya part of the OS for awhile until a later update, and they pushed their own app store and didn't officially support others. It could have worked better if they made a few changes.
Ni No Kuni Cross Worlds, the second most predatory whale bait kusoge on the market right now, after Diablo Immortal. It has coin wallet integration, you can trade in and out of the game's premium and secondary premium currencies and make more coin off of it, if you're lucky. Supposedly they're going to integrate NFTs in the next year, but that seems more like smoke blown up people's asses.
>Hyping up Web3 like it means anything to the average consumer >As cryptos are crashing hard >Claiming cloud/mobile gaming killed the Ouya and not the pitiful shitty games available for it or the fact that it tried to compete with actual consoles. >Overstating the success of Stadia years before it was even announced. >Bullshit promises >Wink at the end
This is way past Todd Howard levels of bullshit.
>Why is hardware the problem with adoption?
It isn't.
Being a web3 game means its code and state are contained on the blockchain in hundreds of chunks, each of which needs to be successfully posted on the chain and correctly linked to every other relevant Blockchain payload. This makes them inherently slow, dramatically limits the amount of info any use can post at once, and requires them to be immaculately designed as you can't go back and edit a single payload's code if there's a bug or typo. It also means you can't make a game with things like real time graphics that would actually fricking use a graphics card.
In short the entire concept of Web3 games is fricking moronic and this console is purely a scam on investors.
>most Web 3 games are not fun to play like traditional games
My fricking sides. Why would you admit that? >we are building for the future, not for tomorrow
Then people are going to buy in the future and not tomorrow, why the frick would they pay $300 to be a beta tester while shit's still shit with no evidence of it getting better?
>why the frick would they pay $300 to be a beta tester while shit's still shit with no evidence of it getting better?
Are you familiar with paid early access and crowdfunding? People are more than willing to pay a premium for the chance of playing an unfinished promise of a game.
That's usually at least tied to a big name with a good reputation. Not to excuse morons like that, but even they're not tempted by something they know literally nothing about.
Anon, have you seen what digital plots of land in the metaverse go for? The plots not only don't exist yet, they don't exist yet in a product that may never even launch.
Never underestimate what morons with money will fund, and never assume that people with money are in any way smarter than the average dipshit.
its incredibly alarming how many people there are just sitting on 100s of thousands of disposable income that have been exposed cus of NFT shit. All the suffering and shit in the world and these people are literally begging for excuses to get rid of their money to buy apes or some rock in a fake video game or something.
It's to the point I can't dismiss the idea of brainwashing anymore.
As a sales engineer I talked to so many investors big and small, and I've had contact with so many older folks living in six figure pensions they can't spend, and the trend with all of them is the same:
"Sure, I could help people with this money or find something I love, but that won't guarantee me a lot of money back!"
Old-ass homie, you just got done telling me you don't have enough things to spend your money on, WHY DO YOU NEED MORE!?
its not uniquely american, but it is uniquely american how widespread this mindset is in the lower classes. Its not even just about muh poor, why don't these people spend money commissioning statues, building things, buying up state land and getting a park constructed in their name, fricking anything that would help society.
>no more multiple wallets
Oh thank God, that was literally my problem with NFTs and crypto, and not the fact it's all a greater fool scam. >or visiting multiple sites just to play a game
Damn, how will non-Web 3 consoles ever recover from that one?
>bros our games will be decentralized >oh so then you're making an MMO where you can plug in whatever server hookup you want, giving tools to allow people to host their own servers and creative a competition of services so that players will never have to worry about their progress getting erased when the servers go down or being exploited by predatory carrot on a stick practices? >bro the blockchain or something
I hate how these morons have ruined actual discussion of decentralization.
>>oh so then you're making an MMO where you can plug in whatever server hookup you want, giving tools to allow people to host their own servers
That's not decentralization, that's open source software.
>The value of the game's associated token, Smooth Love Potion (SLP), crashed in February 2022 amid a wider NFT and cryptocurrency crash, losing over 99% of its peak value. Sky Mavis attempted to stabilize the price by introducing new features to the game, but these attempts were ineffective. The low exchange value of SLP has caused a massive exodus of players, leaving guild leaders without their cheap third-world labor force to grind on their behalf.[8] Sky Mavis removed references to "play-to-earn" on its websites and marketing as its tokens plummeted in value.[23]
kek what the frick
i think i'm alright without these 'games'
>leaving guild leaders without their cheap third-world labor force to grind on their behalf.
Like, in what universe is >treat your game like a job to generate value for other people
in any way appealing? I barely tolerate this shit in real life.
>in any way appealing? I barely tolerate this shit in real life.
It's for tards who think you're wasting your time if you're not constantly doing something that earns you money.
so wait, these guys made ouya? and now they're trying again with this?
how do you not learn from your mistakes? i for one welcome the next flop to point and make fun of
Mike Mumbauer former head of Sony support studio VASG left to form his own game company. He later gets kicked out by the team he took with him because he kept leaking shit and lying about it to their face so they couldn't trust him. He's now working on an NFT game called Ashfall with the Days Gone director. I'll give him credit that he's an excellent bullshit artist to keep getting these 100 million dollar contracts.
yep, just like the nonstop elden nig bullshit threads on the last weeks were 100% honest complaints/praising of it and definitely not a paid effort to keep the game on the spotlight or anything. >look guys OFFICIAL ACCOUNT tweeted something!
is not a worthy thread and the fact it's still up does nothing but confirming that wearelookingatpaidcontent.jpg
Now go royally frick off along with this piece of shit hardware
>this game sucks >HE'S TALKING ABOUT A VIDEO GAME AND NOT PORN, Black folk OR ECELEBS! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOOOOOOOOOOOWN! PAID CONTENT! SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLS! A THREAD ABOUT LIBERALS DIED FOR THIS!!!!!!!
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yep, just like the nonstop elden nig bullshit threads on the last weeks were 100% honest complaints/praising of it and definitely not a paid effort to keep the game on the spotlight or anything. >look guys OFFICIAL ACCOUNT tweeted something!
is not a worthy thread and the fact it's still up does nothing but confirming that wearelookingatpaidcontent.jpg
Now go royally frick off along with this piece of shit hardware
>another DOA console >blames Stadia for another console dying >their logo looks like Gamecube >"stolen gamecube logo >scrambles into: >semblance to google
Since the end goal of crypto games is always 'early adopter makes money', is there any future in there?
It seems to me all they ever want to make is "runescape but someone pays you to grind fishing on your land" which is just confusing
Who would ever go "I should rent a really high level gun from a landlord in order to win this match"
feels like how really old people think MMOs work but these guys are all young
I think more people should realize that there are living humans out there that literally worship capitalism, and want an element of it in every aspect of their lives because they only go to where they are by being a money focused psycho.
Oh no I get the concept - it's an easy money pyramid scheme where you tell five friends and they tell five friends and soon you're subletting Falador's only bench and making bank
But like, MLM schemes only work when other people think they can make money, and game cosmetic sales only work in games that people play
Crypto is in a weird place where like, Venezuelans are plenty happy to grind Runescape Gold (and having just checked, the 100M to USD exchange rate has *only* dropped 40% over the last year, making it a safer investment than any crypto lmao)
Who the frick actually wants NFTs in video games in the first place? This motherfricker says
>OUYA failed because there wasn’t a market need
But where’s the market demand for this shit? Who’s sitting there going “boy, I sure do wish there were games with even MORE israeli DLC and microtransaction practices! When will someone make a console for me?”
But where’s the force? Where’s the Killer App that compels me into this shitty ecosystem? Where’s the Destiny 2 or FFXIV or Bloodborne or Breath of the Wild of NFTs, the game that makes me go “I’m not big on this NFT shit but I can’t NOT play that”?
These people seem to think that the DLC/MTX *is* the sales pitch, rather than the thing you’re made to tolerate against your better judgment.
They're not marketing to you. They're marketing to other NFT-obsessed blockchain web 3.0 metaverse homosexuals. I swear the Stadia reference has to be intentionally dumb to signal to anyone who knows better.
All speculation markets are ultimately backed by non-speculation markets. The real estate market is ultimately backed by the guy who needs land for his house or office. The stock market is ultimately backed by people who want to own a company’s assets. The crypto market is backed by people who want to do illegal things with money in an untraceable way. The futures market is backed by people who need oil and wheat and shit, the forex market is backed by people who owe taxes in another country, the art market is backed by people who want to hang paintings with brush strokes on their walls. Gold and diamonds make beautiful israeliteelry and semiconductors and drill bits.
Who wants an NFT? Not to sell to someone else, I mean who actually WANTS an NFT? With whom does the buck stop? With these games, it stops with people like me, who enjoy playing games. I AM the guy building a house and paying taxes with USD and buying oil for my car. I’m the end consumer who props up the chain of ridiculous speculation. Everyone is betting everyone else how bad I, and people like me, want this stuff.
I’m asking who actually thinks I want it at all? Never mind flipping it for a profit, forget the middleman economy of speculators, who is the END USER of this horse shit?
I was reading some 2deep4me economics but basically >old economy was the trade of valuable goods >new economy is the trade of the concept of valuable goods
land and food are not real scarcities, we've had the technology to make these free for everyone, we just don't feel like it. The illusion that food runs out helps prop up the lie. But as society goes on it becomes obvious that the lie can be way looser. People WANT goods that have the illusion of scarcity. That's it. The actual good doesn't matter, its for people that want to buy into the concept of being le smart and clever tradesman.
You are not the target demographic at the moment, you will be when Web3 has become as ubiquitous as Web2 however. We're actually mocving forward as fast as we are due to billionaires/larger companies pushing Web3 much harder than they did during the early years of Web2 (regarding social media). I think in 5-10 years those who are not into it will be the same kind of people who still use flip phones over smartphones with touch screens, not complete luddites but it will be seen as strange to be against it.
t. Person who works in the Web3 space
2 years ago
Anonymous
>t. Person who has a lot to gain by baiting the unwashed masses into buying his garbage
All you had to say
2 years ago
Anonymous
Kinda how Capitalism works bud, same applies to every company that is for profit. Still though the people who buy our products are crypto/Web3 natives, the general public has not been easy to tap into at the moment, that's why there will need to be gradual shifts in the way we educate people going forward if we are to change that.
You can’t compel me to use NFTs because NFTs can be replicated. NFTs are just the concept of ownership; a game or a book or a movie has value in being a thing people want, paired with the ostensible legal threat of punishment for copying it. NFTs don’t even have THAT. Their value is divorced from their notion of ownership even in theory, how can they be shoved on me by sellers who want to control my actions?
The inherent value in NFT's is typically its own uniqueness, sure if its art you can replicate the appearance of it maybe but not whatever is backing it. That's the same as comparing a fake Pokémon card to a real one. Also nobody is trying to control your actions, if anything it would be the opposite since you have full ownership of whatever it is you choose to purchase. Whether its the art based ones, 3D models exclusive to you in games or virtual plots of land.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That's the same as comparing a fake Pokémon card to a real one.
Tournament legality? Like, there is one thing an NFT could be actually used for, but digital card games are already a thing without that, so it's another dead end
2 years ago
Anonymous
>digital card games are already a thing without that
But you don't actually own those assets in that game, if you're banned you don't get to sell them in the future to collectors/other players (if you had the option in the first place). I've seen games where they give you in game currency for paying over time that you can use to buy new ones, vs games that only offer that option through using fiat currency.
2 years ago
Anonymous
oh lord so the only market for NFT is the "Did you know one day steam will take away all your games I'm srs guys" crowd? yeah lol they're fricked
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's a part of it game-wise yes. Me personally I'm interested in seeing different AAA quality games in the future interact with one another. I would be more likely to put money into a game if I can use those skins for example in a completely different title. We are also selling software solutions to some of the largest companies out there at the moment as well, so it's not all about front facing stuff like artwork. We have software engineers working for us that probably make like 150k doing this stuff from home.
2 years ago
Anonymous
NFT does nothing to enable that and in fact just adds more obstacles
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Me personally I'm interested in seeing different AAA quality games in the future interact with one another. I would be more likely to put money into a game if I can use those skins for example in a completely different title
lmao die shill
2 years ago
Anonymous
>shill
I man I work in a company in the space, I already said that. I am genuinely interested in the technology though, really advanced stuff going on there. Not a surprise people are getting rich off it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>really advanced stuff
lmao, yeah looking for primes is really advancede
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://www.zeedz.io/whitepaper
What other games offer stuff like this exactly?
>I would be more likely to put money into a game if I can use those skins for example in a completely different title.
Doesn't work. To use a food analogy, it would be to ask every restaurent to have the Big Mac on their menu so you always have access to it. Imagine everything that would be involved to make that happen.
Well Burger King has had stuff like Mac N Cheetos on their menu so that honestly isn't too outlandish to think about. I don't see having any more option as a bad thing. Part of what has turned me off of gaming for so many years now is the lack of inventiveness in the space, games used to be more unique but if we can't have that anymore we may as well give more financial incentives to smaller studios/individuals and create new ways to play games, as opposed to the yearly Ubisoft titles we have now over-saturating the market.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>https://www.zeedz.io/whitepaper
what a load of bullshit coated in "its for a good cause". At its core its still the usual NFT scheme.
If you want part of money spend to go to some noble cause you can do that just fine without NFT. But guess what, that shit doesn't pull. If the base premise of your game is to give money to some "good" organisation or charity, no one will be interested in this shit if you can just directly give the money to a charity and be done with it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure but most charities aren't transparent and chances are your money doesn't go where you think it goes. At least with most blockchains you can track funds to an individual wallet and are able to call people out much easier.
looks like cheap CGI from 1999
Think that was the point.
So in true crypto fashion you're something that already exists (indian asset churning companies) but with a fancier name to fool idiots into believing this is some newfangled cutting edge revolutionary tech?
The NFT space is still extremely new and if our tech and game systems weren't valuable our guys wouldn't be partnering with multi-billion dollar companies I imagine. We're under Paramount and Steve Cohen is on our board of directors.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>At least with most blockchains you can track funds to an individual wallet and are able to call people out much easier.
holy kek I really hope you don't actually believe that
2 years ago
Anonymous
>dude, what do you mean our crypto shit is pointless? don't you know <<big name>> and <<other big name>> and <<another big name>> support our crypto shit? that's all the proof you should ever want or need
Ah yes, the cryptobro calling card. Beautiful. Now link us the Matt Damon ad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>cryptobro
Go back to Twitter please.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>if our tech and game systems weren't valuable our guys wouldn't be partnering with multi-billion dollar companies
What shocking naivete.
Money doesn't make people smart.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, you are more intelligent than the people running corporations with more money in their accounts than many countries possess.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm in the 99.99 percentile, so yes. That's neither here nor there, however. The real issue is that you think big corporations and their employees are somehow more competent than other people by virtue of the amount of money they have. This makes you naive at best and moronic at worst.
You're abnormally angry over somebody suggesting there's some value to crypto existing. I'm not supporting NFT games or any of that BS. Do you like Canada freezing the bank accounts of protestors?
I like the idea of you slipping and falling into a comically sized blender set to frappe'
2 years ago
Anonymous
>whitepaper
yeah let's speculate on its future worth lmao. if you're trolling you're good at the seemingly disinterested but coercing via "subtle" fomo speech.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>proof of stake
okay so you have no clue what you're talking about
2 years ago
Anonymous
when I was 15 I thought it was pretty cool that you could get an Ezio outfit for your Xbox Live avatar
I'd engage further about how sharing assets between games is a pipe dream but I've just realized everything can always get worse so why not assume that in ten years Unreal 6 will have everyone using interchangable skeleton-rigs so all models interact in all games
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Unreal 6 will have everyone using interchangable skeleton-rigs so all models interact in all games
Honestly that's not too different from Unreal now, since that's basically just Fortnite. I will say collaborations are big in this space, we've made millions off of them since we started last year.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I would be more likely to put money into a game if I can use those skins for example in a completely different title.
Doesn't work. To use a food analogy, it would be to ask every restaurent to have the Big Mac on their menu so you always have access to it. Imagine everything that would be involved to make that happen.
2 years ago
Anonymous
that's a good food analogy. but nonetheless >food analogy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Actual software developer here, there's several technical and legal hurdles to what you're saying and NFTs solve exactly none of them. You can't put someone's copyrighted designs and name on your game without their legal permission, so you need the other company's express support via a written contract (which probably includes paying them). Then you need the actual asset data (models, textures, sounds, material layers, etc.) which are not stored in the blockchain. Not only that but you need them in a format that works with the engine you're using or else you have to make everything from scratch, and then they need to be rigged, and then hopefully they don't clash with your game's art direction. And only after all that is said and done you get to the point where you begin wondering: "okay but how do we communicate with each other's private databases? now that there is a huge problem" at which point any software dev will immediately tell you that a pair of REST web services will have that taken care of, and with the myriad of frameworks out there you can have a fast, efficient, secure, reliable one set up in a day. I seriously can't overstate how the only problem that NFTs "solve" is literally the easiest hurdle to clear using regular "web2" technology in the entire undertaking that would be having two games from two independent developers sharing skins.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's a lot of words to explain to a moron that the Blockchain would just be a slow and pointless database barely tied to each individual company's centralized item management
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Then you need the actual asset data (models, textures, sounds, material layers, etc.)
I'm aware, we make all those assets ourselves in house and present them to the company we work with. Creating inter-operability with other brands is one of the big things we're trying to figure out actually, since many people are demanding it of us. Already all of our websites are attached to the same framework, games are another beast though I will admit and individual companies making their own games that are linked would be the easiest way of going about it. Pic related is an example from our art team for instance of a randomized 3D model they made that will be in a future Star Trek game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
looks like cheap CGI from 1999
2 years ago
Anonymous
So in true crypto fashion you're something that already exists (indian asset churning companies) but with a fancier name to fool idiots into believing this is some newfangled cutting edge revolutionary tech?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>individual companies making their own games that are linked would be the easiest way of going about it.
Then of what actual use is the Blockchain? None. You're literally building around it because of its severe limitations. You'd be better off just hosting a traditional database with normal authentication schemes.
Blockchain was made to solve a problem: how do you record and disseminate information in an explicitly zero trust environment? It sacrifices any semblance of efficiency and utility as a traditional database in order to do so.
Tell me: do you think heavily litigated licensing agreements between gaming corporations are zero trust environments?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Exactly this, anyone shilling game NFTs either doesn't understand this point, or stands to profit from scams.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Note that this post got no actual reply.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because they're correct.
As far as games are concerned, there's nothing here that can't be done more effectively without blockchains.
You'd think that THE EXISTENCE OF THE STEAM MARKETPLACE would have clued people in to that a long time ago.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Note that this post got no actual reply.
Blockchain can remove the need for trust between parties to some degree.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Zero trust = low privacy
Whats corporate espionage anyway?
Also fricking squid coin teached you nothing?
Block chain is shit and you can scam people while following the rules
2 years ago
Anonymous
Which, as I've pointed out multiple times, is not helpful or necessary in this scenario. Business to business and business to consumer agreements are mediated and enforced by the state, they are not zero-trust environments where you have to worry about clandestine edits.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I will hurt you for mistreating the connie like that, why the frick did you mangle the proportions?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That's the same as comparing a fake Pokémon card to a real one
People want to own Pokemon cards. Nobody wants to own NFTs. People only want to sell NFTs. There are collectors who actually WANT to have a shiny charizard or whatever (IDK Pokemon cards), just for the sake of having it. That is true of exactly ZERO NFTs. Everyone with an NFT is holding it to sell.
2 years ago
Anonymous
As someone who has access to tends of thousands of user accounts and can see their activity I can say that is not the case for most people who make an account with my company. Maybe other places but I've sold some of mine for far more than what I paid for them just so those people could have access to early sale ones for themselves.
2 years ago
Anonymous
HODLing. Nobody just admires their NFT collection. Maybe like, the guy who bought Beeple’s first 5000 dailies or something, that was something that was actual ART and some rich c**t could be proud of owning that. Not someone’s 64x64 rare pepe bmp files
2 years ago
Anonymous
We've got guys with like 80 pages of next to worthless NFT's that they know will see a roi on. Asking why people buy them is like asking why people waste thousands of dollars in Clash of Clans or Overwatch. People just like to spend money on stuff they're into I guess.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they know will see a roi on
Will they really?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can’t compel me to use NFTs because NFTs can be replicated. NFTs are just the concept of ownership; a game or a book or a movie has value in being a thing people want, paired with the ostensible legal threat of punishment for copying it. NFTs don’t even have THAT. Their value is divorced from their notion of ownership even in theory, how can they be shoved on me by sellers who want to control my actions?
>Who the frick actually wants NFTs in video games in the first place?
People who don't actually play games and think an NFT will magically make their Fortnite skin work in Minecraft.
these people really read like cultists. i know they have a financial incentive to drag people into their ponzi scheme, but it's just odd to read how personally they seem to take everything.
its the kind of person who doesn't like video games and think they're for kids but plays with money like its a toy because they were born in money. You know the kinda homie that thinks owning a gaming PC is a mental health red flag?
All I got out of this is that you can grind a standardized currency for multiple games. I gotta admit it's better than using real world money for this shit but it sure doesn't sound appealing.
This actually kinda makes me sick. It doesn't sound cool, it sounds immersion breaking. Regardless it will never happen because that would require a ton of communication and compliance between different development teams.
I read that thinking it was a parody showing the ridiculousness of blockchainbrain until halfway through. Who the frick wants to play candy crush to upgrade their gear in wow?
It's not optional if there's a massive PVP upgrade behind it, which is implied. Regardless, I can't imagine anyone outside of soulless bugmen that work at the carcinogen factory for 12 hours a day just to play Amazing Super Ultra Golden Boy's Adventure in Time and Space New 2022 for 10 minutes on the train home to the dog kennel he lives in to enjoy these kinds of "get the number higher at all costs" types of mechanics.
Frick man. It reads almost exactly like one the posts from here along the lines of >it's 2034 >strap on my intravenous VR opioid dispenser after finishing a bowl of Monsantobrand gruel flakes with REAL animal protein supplement >join the guys (they/them) for a grind session in homebound 3 (an indie undertale inspired mmorpg) to farm estrolax
I'm worried for the actual future.
1st paragaph - thats work, not fun video games
2nd - more work, also a second job
3rd another fricking video game to daily manage
4th- yet another fricking work
rest -prepare for 5th job. alsoyou need real job to fund those jobs as you need crypto to buy in. and you cant cash out. you can only quit
who wants that? people wo will benefit from it. so not you but the guy who will sell you the crypto
Imagine being so stupid you think that blockchain makes game to game interoperation easier or more meaningful. All this shit still needs to be programmed, but instead of being programmed normally you now have to make it conform to blockchain specifications. moronic.
Also this vision of the future he gives looks more like 9-5 videogame slavery than actual gaming. It's bizarre
I still can’t wrap my head around this shit. Rent out something in a video game? Like, you rent a rare item/creature to a player?… how does he pay him? What’s in it for anyone? Why is this better than just turning on a game and playing it?
I worked at it, basically they give you an account and send you to do the daily grind, which in Axie's case was playing the singleplayer several times and win 10 online matches, just by doing that the game gives you the currency. >how does he pay him?
Like any other form of paying method? >What’s in it for anyone?
With the game currency obtained they can mint and create new axies that they(are supposed to) sell using crypto >Why is this better than just turning on a game and playing it?
Because in order to get into the business at all you need to make a huge investment, hundreds or thousands of dollars(which crashed, now it's jsut dozens, lol) to get your own axie and do the same.
Every time I see this I'm amazed by how little self awareness cryptobros have. It really does read like a parody. How do you write all this shit out and not realize how nightmarish and awful it sounds? Not to mention how disconnect from actual vidya it is. >5% drop rate on a boss in an MMO >low
>>not gathering the mats, just the actual crafting >This person has never played a video game in his life.
i have unironically taken longer than that to make something end-game in atelier
granted it was making a handful of things that later turned into one thing, but still
What does that character just stand there for an hour pounding an Anvil? Is it like a "work order" type thing where you set it and the game does it automatically in the background even if you log off?
No I mean I, personally, take like an hour to go through proper ingredients and build orders to get the desired end results of the item I'm making.
If you mean in-universe, crafting used to take a set amount of time (you would regularly pass months by in short spans of time) though it was assumed that you know the character ate slept and did other things while this time was passing, although this was never talked about or shown. The real world time for this was like 2 seconds but the in-game time could be several days or weeks.
This is like everything that would exist in my nightmare scenario for the industry.
Imagine the kind of person who would present this shit as a good thing.
>he fell for the decentralized meme
its not decentralized. if you put all your shit into one basket, its centralized in that basket
decentralized blockchain is a meme and can never exist
This concept is at leat not inherently dog shit. The crypto/nft aspect is beyond moronic but "what if your minecraft happened in the same universe as EVE or some shit" is a novel idea, it's just that actually making it work would be such an undertaking that would dwarf antyhing currently existing to have it any sort of presentable state.
Then there's the more important issue of "Are these games even any fun", in concept you just smash 20 games together and say they're the same world and effect each other, almost akin to recettear but make it a couple of orders of magnitude more comlicated than "dungeoneering gives you stuff to sell in a shop sim"
I knew a dude that owned a trucking business and wanted to diversify his assets by hiring a game dev studio, but instead of letting us do our jobs he kept telling us insane ideas like this, being able to play EVE and shit, and then touch down to play Halo or Total War or something.
that's the thing, conceptually at least it's a good idea, it's just it's near impossible to work out logistically and then there's the actual human time and resources that would be required
It depends on the idea. People inherently like compartmentalization. I don't want to have to load 5 games worth of data just to fricking around in one mode in one of those games, let alone mod and trouble shoot that shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
well yes, i would think ideally they were to be optional, but that's the entire problem with the idea
the hypothetical idea of a game is nice, but making it real would have infinite problems
It's not feasible to have assets be compatible between different competing video games, but a handful of games designed with transferring NFTs between them in mind could theoretically work. The problem is launching an entire set of games with this feature in mind, and getting them to stay up and running long enough for any of it to matter. Lots of games are announced and treated like they'll be the next big thing, only to crash and burn. Remember Lawbreakers?
very vaguely, but for a slightly more real world example the guys at scam citizen had promised some FPS or something that would be connected to it
no idea if that ever went anywhere but it likely didn't considering its source
>Who the frick actually wants NFTs in video games in the first place?
People who don't actually play games and think an NFT will magically make their Fortnite skin work in Minecraft.
It doesn't really make sense in the way you put it, it sounds awful (though most games are doing setting-clashing crossovers daily now and no game takes its world seriously anymore)
This topic is always explored disingenuously. It makes more sense in the idea of being allowed to use your avatar's shoes across VRChat and SecondLife. Or a cardgame like magic where you can play on Arena, but also play (manually) in VRchat with someone you just met, or also on someone's fanmade EDH app, with the cards you "officially" own.
It's going to be like that IMO and I don't care if Ganker likes it or not, I think it's actually pretty cool. It's certainly better than what we currently have: You gatchapull shit and waste your time grinding shit battlepasses only for the game to eventually shut down.
The problem with NFTs is that they have zero utility. Some of them try to fake it by promising future payoffs like luxury yacht access, but there's no business model beyond getting more and more investors to actually pay for any of that. The smarter ones realize that when people realize that, the entire scam is going to implode, so they're looking for a way to give them some kind of utility, a reason people would buy them to actually use, not just hold onto in the hopes a bigger fool will come along and buy them.
Naively, if you never actually play them or have any involvement in their communities, games seem like the perfect match. Games have purely digital content that people actually want to obtain, NFTs are purely digital content that we can speculate on, it's perfect! The question "but does this actually add to the gameplay experience, or allow to happen that currently is technologically impossible?" never gets asked, because they don't exist to solve a problem the gamers are having, they exist to solve a problem that speculators are having.
When people talk about "play to earn", THEY don't want to play to earn. They want YOU to play to earn, and then create a currency market selling what you earned so that the investor class can make money speculating on it without having any interest in the game itself.
But it's all still just a greater-fool scam. Just look at Axie Infinity. All of those stories about the third world making money farming items to sell, but sell to who? Ever see any actual PLAYERS of that super-popular game, who'd want to buy that stuff for its actual utility in gameplay and not to speculate on or make their grind for stuff to speculate on more efficient? It's all just sold to speculators imagining how rich they'll be when all of the actual players want all this stuff they bought, not realizing that the fact its a speculation engine and not a game is what means that it'll never have any.
yeah, only a cryptotard has to deal with their self inflicted problem of multiple wallets
everyone else is using their one wallet that can buy groceries and pay for actually good games on any other platform
>implying there is a market need for some piece of shit console that can play video games that literally nobody wants, needs or will ever play
good luck morons
Playdate is a hipster conversation starter. I think the actual form factor is "alright" but the whole attitude around the product is clearly not video game focused.
The Ouya failed because it didn't have good exclusives.
For a game system to succeed it needs good exclusives that can't be played elsewhere, and a good price to marketing strength ratio.
Alternatively you can have a strong legacy with leftover goodwill and cult like fans. Then you can release utter garbage and still be successful.
But the reason the Ouya failed was because it lacked good exclusives. Anyone blaming the Ouya itself being a shit system with shit hardware are wrong. Yes the system sucked but that has never actually stopped a system from being successful before.
OUYA came out and failed before cloud/streaming games was still in its infancy. Stadia wouldn't even really be a thing until 5/6 years after the demise of the console.
A lot of companies are basically a pyramid of people bullshitting each other into believing that a company is good and for every person that recieves the bullshit, they have to keep it going in order to earn money from it.
The inventor has to bullshit the founder that the company is great so he will be putting money into the project.
The founder then has to bullshit initial investors that the company is great so they will buy stocks or he won't make back the money.
The initial investors who buy the stocks then have to bullshit new investors that the stock is actually great or they won't be able to resell the stocks.
That's because it is. Sony's financial reports are so far removed from actual data that they're close to being in lawsuit territory.
Especially now that gigantic funds like Blackrock, Blackstone and Vanguard simply put billions of dollars into companies entirely based on ESG-scores rather than whether or not the company delivers products that customers buy or is even profitable.
>freakin crushtards using their obsidian battlestaves because it's easy to farm in a shitty mobile game >real men had to mine obsidian in Crypteria to get their ore
Why do these people always assume competitors will honor each other's NFTs? Nintendo would never let you use anyone else's NFTs on their platform, for example. What is the incentive?
Not only that, but imagine the balancing nightmare.
ONE game makes their bullshit that's tied to everything else super common/rare, thus demolishing everything.
this. 5 games will have the same rare shit and a 6th game will come and make one of those rare shits more common, causing their value to drop. games will routinely have to change drop rates for everything and add new shit. none of this even has anything remotely to do with gameplay, either, so you just have devs having to work on this bullshit instead of doing what they were originally passionate about. the concept of web 3 gaming is ass cancer through and through. completely soulless trash. imagine being immersed in a session of something like skyrim or elden ring and then you have to read a bunch of popups about whatever gay moroncoin is happening, or whatever.
Imagine if every single Pokemon was an NFT. That still doesn't mean you'd ever be able to fly across the skies in Halo or God of War ontop of your Charizard.
It's ridiculous.
Cryptogays live in a magical world where they expect businesses to waste time and money going against their natural self interests of "if it doesn't directly make us money, then there's no point to it." They expect all corporations to just suddenly become friends and work together implementing stuff that doesn't make them money.
It's kids that imagine and write entire articles on fandom wikis about consoles that don't exist but can play ALL the games without issues and do other things just not possible. Then they grow up and still think that way.
>Sony announces "The PlayStation" It's basically a PS6 but can play every single PlayStation 1-5 disk, natively.
>Nintendo announces The Nintendo 9001, It comes with ports for switch/3DS/DS games and a disk port that reads GC/Wii/WiiU games. You can buy peripherals that add GBA-GB functionality, one for NES/SNES/N64
>Xbox has all their games working, plus many windows/MS DoS games, plus SEGACD/Dreamcast and they have a peripheral that allows for MegaDrive/Geneisis/32X games to be played.
The irony of a "web3" console talking about something else not having a "market need" is powerful enough that, were we able to harness it, we'd have no energy generation worries ever again.
was there even a single moment where being excited for an OUYA was anything but complete moronation? What exactly was the expectation for this thing? Its just a games console, what did people even think it did?
>dude we have an awesome idea we just need 20 million in funding >woah we got the funding now what do we do >idk I didn't think that far ahead >is our product even gonna work >what product?
I love business.
So is any of this serious or is the pitch itself just a means of generating revenue that they can rugpull after a bunch of morons jump on with funding?
Why do most people buy NFTs anyway? They don't seem to be able to turn a profit often enough to be worth the investment. Then again, I am moronic so perhaps I am wrong.
but you might. and what then? you dont want to make free money? you will miss out big time! please this potato is burning my hands take it away from me
Because capitalism has so utterly destroyed the minds of the masses that people honestly think winning the lottery is a better chance at upward mobility than working a job their whole lives, and the sad thing is they aren't even wrong.
no.crypto and nft were created beause banks screwed people over. and they are mad not that they got screwed over but they werent the ones screwing people
Greed, it's a tale as old as time. It's pretty interesting watching all these people who made it big when bitcoin blew up a couple of years to attempt to consolidate all their power into a few platforms so they can control the market for themselves. People always b***h about muh israelites and muh globomo but we're literally seeing a new globohomosexual trying to establish itself through web3
>new
its the same people they already got the money that they are investing in people running those scams
its the same scam by the same people but instead in banks they are doing it on blockchain
Any video game that allows direct exchange with irl money will inevitably be a grinding simulator as 3rd world sweatshops will determine where the bottom is.
You will have the choice of effectively working another job for $1/hr, or constantly paying money to progress.
I give zero fricks about those people nowadays, so just gonna tell you people how it is from the inside.
First App: Think Uber Eats meets Groupon but also with a social feed.
Now, here are the questions I asked these guys, which they couldn't answer despite this having over 10 Million dollars in funding already >Who is this for
People that want to get coupons, money and rewards for their reviews and opinions and small business owners that want to drive more traffic to their businesses >So this is for small business owners that are not tech-savyy enough to use Facebook Ads but they will use this app? Why?
Because this will bring them more users >Facebook already does this, why would they do this? And why would people leave groupon and uber eats? Microsoft and Google already give you rewards for your opinion
Then the guy got mad because I obviously didn't understand him and his vision. I still took his money, it was a failed project from the beginning.
Then I met other people wanting to create a web3 game.
I told them we should focus first on making it fun, because the gameplay loop has to be incredibly addicting/rewarding for people to stop playing mainstream games >That's not needed, we just need to get the tokenomics first >The gameplay part will come later, we just need to get the tokenomics in good enough shape so we can present this to potential investors and backers.
So yeah, most people that want to make a Web3 app are in it just for the quick buck, like with the dead ICOs, there's really not many projects wanting to make something good, it's mostly scammers like this Polium shit.
>The gameplay part will come later, we just need to get the tokenomics
This attitude is extremely obviously present in all crypto games thus far, and it is why they will never take off until they realize that mistake.
gaming from 2005-2015 almost exclusively revolved around being able to sell trailers and screenshots. Notice how AAA companies didn't give a shit about 60fps until YouTube decided to start supporting it, crazy how that works.
>This attitude is extremely obviously present in all crypto games thus far, and it is why they will never take off until they realize that mistake.
We had 3 actual, real game developers in the team. I was talking a lot to them because all four of us wanted to create a great concept revolving around bounty hunting and space pirates. Something that would be extremely easy to write a story about and also to market to teenagers.
But no, the people that created the team wanted us to work on how to make the money concept sound so good, every investor would throw $10M just to be early in the game.
I always wanted to join an actual good team of blockchain devs, but there's not many, and those that go to meetups or gatherings are the bullshitters.
Still amazes me that they okayed that Ouya ad with the braindead COD gamer deciding on getting an Ouya after smashing his own brain out and dissolving into a sea of puke.
>Ouya failed because Trump was elected >Ouya failed because of covid >Ouya failed because the PS5 and Xbox Series took all it's shine >Outa failed because of the Switch
The entire cryptoecosystem is on the verge of collapse and you morons are cheering it on because you think it will mean GPUs for your moronic bing bang wahoo manchildren games will be cheaper.
>throws all money in to Beaniebabies >turns out it was a fad and people stop caring >get upset when you are a bag holder
You should have seen it coming. >numbers going up and up and up >normies are hearing about the money that can be made >corporations/banks/governments start to get involved
MAGICALLY as soon as that happens it started to crash. Surely a coincidence
None of those dollars belong to any industry that produces anything of real world value, so I'm quite happy about it disappearing. If it were up to me, I'd clamp down on the stock market too, because most trades these days are predicated on hype and growth potential in the short term rather than actual capability for a company to produce anything of value. Everyone just hopes they don't end up being the bag holder. Venture capitalism is cancer.
This just proves these people have no fricking idea what they are speaking of.
Ouya died because it was a shitty mobile game steaming box. No one wants to play Mobile games on their TV.
Stadia died because the whole concept was moronic from day 1.
If you want to compete with the consoles you are gonna NEED to actually compete. That means hardware that can run all the modern releases, so you can get games that normies actually want to play on the console. That means a network that is stable and has a bunch of features people want.
Every single NFT game I've seen ranges from a 00s flash game to modern phone games. Aka absolute shit.
These people aren’t passionate about games and are just doing this for money, right? I feel bad sometimes for people trying to try new things but get raked over the coals before they even get their shot. Its just some corp with money hiring people to make something for them right? Not a small team of passionate people with a vision, I hope.
>NFTs are just blockchain receipts that allow you to attach "X now owns Y" as a little note to a transaction >Swindlers take this away and run with it >People actually get tricked into thinking intangible products are the future >Everyone rushes to create some new thing to take advantage for the demand for fake bullshit >Crusty jpegs, hologram shoes, a 3D model of real estate, roblox skins, etc. all become real things that actual people are expected to pay money for >NFTs start infecting everything >This leads tech illiterate normals think NFTs are some magical plug-n-play virtual reality fun token that acts as a universal store of value for every virtual ecosystem but also in real ones somehow
>people that shill NFTs/METAverse keep comparing it to Ready Player One constantly >Get angry when normies who don't know shit about tech outside of pop culture shit, think NFTs/Metaverse is gonna be a Magical VR world that allows you to remake the Ultimate Showdown( of Ultimate Destiny)
If there is anyone at fault it's the cryptoshills trying to promise the moon.
no anon its way worse
think of it as a container in a blockchain that can contain anything >small picture >link to a picture >some words >your medical records >some program that mints nfts >some program that authorizes transactions in zero trust enviroment >your driving license details >a video game that cant be patched because you cant change the blockchain you can only add to it >a virus that steals all your data
and all of that can be "sold"
but not for real money but for a money you get by spending real money. and i controll that fake money. and you cant actually buy stuff for it. its only value is a speculation value. you are hoping that someone will buy that fake money for more than you paid for. and there are no infinite amount of people on earth having infinite amount of money. bubble will have to burst eventually. oh yeah its all just an excuse to buy crypto because none of that shit works without it.
>can contain anything >once it's on there, it's on there forever
how have people *not* abused this more
seriously dude write Black person on the blockchain I'll buy that
>>once it's on there, it's on there forever
except that if you have power and money you can convince people that that shit doesnt count and you can create a fork
this is basically the concept of NFTs as a whole >explain how you sell n-word passes validated via blockchain >"but how are those n-word passes used?" >well you see developers of communities just need to integrate our blockchain protocol into their community to validate when one of their users use our n-word passes
why do people still keep pushing and trying this shit
if you want to make a successful videogame system starter kit: >make a device on par with the r&d of the brands sony, microsoft and nintendo (this, you cannot do unless you are a brand like apple or ibm or some shit) >develop not only a good console, but a good controller (seems so obvious but all non main brands suck ass with controllers, and even the big ones make failures) >now you need a deep connection with developers that have access to your dev kits and the promise (money) to spend their valuable limited time on making a game for your shitty console (very hard, takes years of building a relationship or alternatively huge money incentives) >now you need games, because no matter what the frick you produce, why would anyone buy your shit over a ps5? >if you are going the mobile game route, why the frick are you competing with the app store and iphones/ipads? do you honestly think you can corner that market?
conclusion: >if you are thinking of making a new console, dont >if you are entering the mobile space, then just make a device that any android or ios device connects to wirelessly to mirror your image without latency to your tv and the phone remains the controller
fricking idiots,
remember how little trust there was when microsoft entered the console space? fricking microsoft has more money than you do
its like people just want to fail
(or alternatively get money from investors and then jump ship)
Too bad that i cant seem to find any failure stories since all crypto gays seem to circlejerk pity each other and keep huffing that copium instead of rolling over and dying
so can someone explain in simple english what these people think they're bringing to the table because this all sounds like latin
it ultimately amounts to scam scam scammady scam, but i don't even get their baseline
>Web 2 will never happen, people will never give away all their personal data to social media companies so they can get targeted by personalized ads 24/7
Web 2 had Twitter and Facebook. Tools which forced the user to engage in that type of unsavory shit but which were so useful and popular that people held their breath and dove in anyway. What does Web 3 have? What’s the thing that’ll make me go “FRICK I GOTTA HAVE THAT”
https://future.com/why-web3-matters/
Basically its about moving away from centralization and also giving people a chance to make money in an economy which is increasingly shitting the bed. You have people doing Uber and Doordash in the US but in third world countries people make 25% of their monthly income by just walking around for minutes a day with an app like Stepn that pays you to exercise. imagine more people making money just sitting at home without having to work three or four side jobs. Hell, my job is as easy as it gets and is a 1000x less stressful than when I worked in retail.
Anyone with a brain is merciless towards this piece of shit. Broken clock is right twice a day. I'd imagine the Kotaku article includes a bunch of shitting on cryptocurrency and possibly capitalism in general on top of pointing out that this is garbage.
anyone with a brain would shit on crypto as well. However they only speak of the crypto delusion (which isn't completely devoid of sense) , capitalism not really. mostly web 3.0
>anyone with a brain would shit on crypto as well
Obviously there's plenty to shit on there, but the people who write for sites like Kotaku are going to take it to an insane degree.
Why the frick are you buttholes so entitled? Why do you think a console needs games? Being part of a community, no, a movement, is more important than whatever menial satisfaction you get from a mere game. Step back from your petty needs and realize this is no mere console, it is a way of life.
my favorite thread gimmick on this site has always been someone pretending they actually work in any sort of official capacity for well, anything even remotely relevan to the industry
back when the ds was first coming out i thought it would play GC games somehow
the switch sort of eventually did that I guess, with the portable console games
you think they'll actually release anything?
this is 100% scam. They'll take preorders and make a bunch of money by shilling the shitcoins they invested in then dump it, claim production difficulties and lack of community support or something and laugh at the morons that trusted them all the way to the bank.
>shitcoins allow you to "raise funds" up front for a project >no lockup period so insiders get to dump their shitcoin tokens immediately >you delivered your returns to insiders before even starting the project, so why bother starting it?
I mean it has already happened countless times now. This is yet another stupid vaporware project designed exclusively to sell shitcoins.
true true. i only dabbled in xy, but i can see people being interested enough in a genuinely-bred shiny pokemon with the right EVs and nature to cough up some dollars for it.
You people know there are only 2 futures for shit like nft and crypto right? >people and money gets bored of it and find some new buzzword and the wheel spins again >this shit takes off and is integral part of your life. you need crypto to function, everything can be sold everywhere, there is no privacy as all is recorded on blockchain and can be easily traced to you either directly or indirectly.
can't i just create an excel file and add "-append only" and not waste shit load of electricity to solve math problem that will be discarded because someone solved it 0,0001 sec earlier than me to get nft?
No, NFTs are not useful for those applications. The slow and decentralized nature is the opposite of what a ticketer would want in their software. Ticketmaster isn't chomping at the bit to make their service slower, more expensive, and incapable of basic error correction.
crypto solves lot of things regarding digital items, also proposes a new way to manage them
but this hardware is dead on arrival, something that noone asked for
it's pretentious and the entire nft ecosystem is still very very new
it would need a BIG corporation like EGC or steam to start the trend
>crypto solves lot of things regarding digital items,
it solves nothing until it's recognizable in court. I've seen scams for selling actual apartments as nfts and then they pulled the rug on suckers.
>crypto solves
no
crypto only exists to sell you crypto. nothing more. you need an infinite supply of people with infinite supply of money for the line to continue going up and not just crash this shit hard.
Lines goes up doesn't matter, I can more easily move my own money, do crazy stuff like give myself loans that pay themselves off over time, and buy and sell things illegally. There are stablecoins if you're worried about things crashing. Even if it's full of scams and most of it is bullshit, it has some legitimate uses. In a world where even countries like Canada will freeze your bank account for going against the government, it's important to have options for working around that.
And I'm telling you to put a shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger instead of posting again
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're abnormally angry over somebody suggesting there's some value to crypto existing. I'm not supporting NFT games or any of that BS. Do you like Canada freezing the bank accounts of protestors?
That said, NFT games are firmly in the scams and bullshit category. Maybe there's some potential for interesting games buried there, but people are interested in making things built around the most hated parts of MMOs and mobile games instead (microtransactions, grinding, etc.). It's all a cashgrab by people who don't give a shit about fun games.
One example of an interesting experiment, even though it doesn't look fun to me still
https://twitter.com/larsiusprime/status/1537181872572485632
>stablecoins if you're worried about things crashing
are you sure about that?
>Maybe there's some potential for interesting games buried there
There isn't. The nature of Blockchain limits them to tiny html games you'd remember from the mid 90's.
>it's important to have options for working around that.
but that shit doesnt solve that
government ising seizing your account PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT ARE DOING IT AND THEY WILL DO IT ON BLOCKCHAIN ANYWAY. you cant just change the wording and pretend problem is fixed. problem wont be fixed because its HUMAN BEHAVIOUR thats the problem
>PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT ARE DOING IT AND THEY WILL DO IT ON BLOCKCHAIN ANYWAY
The point is to create a system where it's impossible for them to do that. They can't just shutdown Monero or seize your funds.
>The point is to create a system where it's impossible for them to do that.
blockchain isnt it then. because i can get shitload of coins, tell them to fork the chain or else i pull out and they will do that. see multiple fricking verisons of etherum after some fricker stole like 15% of market cap of it.
Fine and dandy let my buy 5lbs of potatoes at the grocer's with 0.0003 monero. Oh, the government outlawed use of it? How unfortunate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Government can outlaw the use of it, but they can't stop it. You don't need to be buying groceries with Monero to make it useful.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure I'll just subsist on my coke diet, while driving an unregistered Tesla since I didn't buy it at a legal dealer all the while posting off satellite internet that actually accepts the shitcoin.
Crypto solves nothing regarding digital items. We already have technology and entire frameworks built to quickly and efficiently integrate systems between separate companies and even ways for companies to open their systems to the public with granular access privileges to prevent abuse.
>Yea bro, you see this Vorelion? Nintendo is gonna take the time to model and animate this character so I can play it in Smash, Then when I'm done I'm gonna log in to World of Warcraft and use my VoreLion and who is Equipped with the Keyblade NFT while I do the Omnislash NFT of Ragnaros 6.0. Once I get my Loot off him I can use the Legs of Ragnaros mount that dropped in FF14, that my VoreLion is also in and fully animated/modeled/voiced.
it's honestly funny because with how vitriolic to literally everything people are here if you get a legitimate full on shill they have to go into overdrive dealing with not only the people asking ""legitimate"" questions but also the random shitposters
it's hilarious
In order for NFTs to have real world use, they must be backed and recognized by a central authority (govt, game company, whatever) because they are just data. Data doesn't do anything itself. Specifically it's verification data, saying effectively "user 0934582034 """"owns"""" this rare pepe".
Verification is only relevant when someone with power acts on it (for example, SINs are only meaningful because the govt recognises them)
So you need a central authority to enforce the concept of "ownership" which NFTs promise.
But by introducing a central autority, you have elimitated the ONE REASON THEY EXIST. DECENTRALIZATION.
If you have a central authority, why the frick would they ever want to make things more complicated with a "decentralized" verification method instead of using a centralized one like they have since the early 2000s? TF2 and thousands of other games did this without blockchain.
The only puprose NFTs are supposed to serve is decentralized verification, but for them to be used for something you have to undermine their only purpose. It's moronic.
The only reason cryptocurrencies (sort of) work (as poorly as they do), is because the backing force is anyone who is willing to accept the currency as payment, and so no central authority is needed. But if you want to use NFTs for tickets, deeds, game items, etc, the central authority is inherent to that space, and so NFTs have no purpose there.
I hate this moronic shit so much
>The only puprose NFTs are supposed to serve is decentralized verification, but for them to be used for something you have to undermine their only purpose. It's moronic.
That's only because it became a hot investment scam. Blockchain has one real practical use and it's pseudo-anonymous messaging.
The fricking audacity. Not only are they using some bootleg version of Gamecube Logo, they assume another fricking Store client is going to make their system sell.
I did not even notice the knock off GC label.
It's gotten to the point where I wonder if this is not all a joke. Are there actual preorders/crowd funding for this thing yet?
Or is it just a twitter post?
nfts died like 4 months ago but companies are moronic and slow moving
crypto in general is (hopefully) dying but it's certainly collapsing for the moment
>I myself made 40 grand on dogecoin
congratulations. would you put the 40 grand you got back into it if it didnt collapse?
why not? you only got 40 grand. you could get 400 grand. do you have paper hands and dont want to go to the moon? its literally free money making scheme. it only needs infinite supply of people with money to buy for even higher price
Eh, I can understand hating crypto because of all the scams and general bullshit. Leftists like
I'm in the 99.99 percentile, so yes. That's neither here nor there, however. The real issue is that you think big corporations and their employees are somehow more competent than other people by virtue of the amount of money they have. This makes you naive at best and moronic at worst.
[...]
I like the idea of you slipping and falling into a comically sized blender set to frappe'
hate the very concept of it though because they can't stand the idea of individual freedom and people controlling their own money.
I'm in the 99.99 percentile, so yes. That's neither here nor there, however. The real issue is that you think big corporations and their employees are somehow more competent than other people by virtue of the amount of money they have. This makes you naive at best and moronic at worst.
[...]
I like the idea of you slipping and falling into a comically sized blender set to frappe'
>I like the idea of you slipping and falling into a comically sized blender set to frappe'
You're free to fantasize all you want.
at the small scale, you don't want a person to control the value of their own currency, they have to adhere to somewhat naturalistic laws of suply and demand, and at the large scale, One dude controlling a shit ton of "the money" has monopolistic influence over the rest of the market which is also not ideal.
Ok, but you're talking about something very different. I'm talking about people being able to move their wealth freely for example. As opposed to the government freezing their accounts or taking the money away if they don't spend it fast enough.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>What if Canada sizes my assets!?
Sounds like you just really wish you were a drug lord instead of a pasty b***h boy and all this crypto stuff is just an extension of that fantasy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60383385
It's already happening for people protesting, not just drug dealers. >pasty b***h boy
Your language shows the type of person you are, go back to twitter
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh, I see, my mistake
You don't wish you were a drug lord, you wish you were a terrorist
Have you considered taking the bleach challenge? Try it! All you have to do is chug bleach. You don't even need a camera!
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's just outsourcing instability to even more unstable tenders. Though i guess losing 50% of your money is better than 100%, but at least they can try and sue for that. No such chance with crypto.
2 years ago
Anonymous
NTA, but Canada froze bank accounts of people donating to the freedom convoy a couple months back. Not even for participating, but just donating, to a protest. Honestly that shit is terryfing.
I don't really think crypto is the solution to such threats, (people treating it as a speculative stock market undermines its use as currency), but it would be nice if there was one
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Canada froze the accounts of people donating to domestic terrorists temporarily
So?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay so you're a troll
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, exactly. Crypto is far from perfect in its current form, but already has some utility for working around things like that (however imperfectly).
Oh, I see, my mistake
You don't wish you were a drug lord, you wish you were a terrorist
Have you considered taking the bleach challenge? Try it! All you have to do is chug bleach. You don't even need a camera!
>terrorist
Such as easy to abuse term. Keep fantasizing about me dying, fantasizing is all you can do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay so you're a troll
>Nuh uh they weren't!
Just because they were shitty terrorists that accomplished nothing doesn't mean they face no consequences.
You're just roundabout advocating for criminal organizations.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't trust the government to decide certain citizens are terrorists and strip them of their rights. Freezing the bank accounts of people who donated to a protest is insane.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>instead I'll trust noname special interest groups that control all the money anyway
2 years ago
Anonymous
What? No, I just don't want the government freezing the bank accounts of protestors or people donating to them. This isn't an absurd opinion and has nothing to do with your greentext.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not wanting the government or banks to be able to freeze accounts suspected of criminal activity is a pretty moronic take.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why all pro crypto takes are either pro crime or pro scams?
You don't think Canada overstepped? Either way - it's a use for cryptocurrency we can agree on. Whether you like the use or not.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why all pro crypto takes are either pro crime or pro scams?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because crime and scams and revolution are the only real applications for Blockchain as those are actual zero trust environments
[...]
You don't think Canada overstepped? Either way - it's a use for cryptocurrency we can agree on. Whether you like the use or not.
Yes, we agree, crypto is useful for crime. Take a load aspirin.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's spelt "lead."
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't trust the government or the banks
Then move to another country you do trust, homosexual. >Preventing assets from flowing to terrorists is insane
You're moronic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Then move to another country you do trust, homosexual.
More and more countries are turning authoritarian. Eventually you're going to run out of places to run. >Preventing assets from flowing to terrorists is insane
Protestors, not terrorists. You should be able to see why labeling people terrorists so you can take away their rights is bad. Maybe you can't. Either you're a troll or genuinely moronic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Terrorists, not protestors. You should be able to see why labeling people protestors so you can get away with their crimes is bad. Maybe you can't. Either you're a troll or genuinely moronic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thanks for giving up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't trust ANY countries!
Then go live in a ditch and stop using public services and property you ancap dunce. >They weren't terrorists!
They were. >The government and banks shouldn't have the tools needed to prevent major crimes because I don't trust them!
Fricking idiot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They weren't, and yes I don't trust any country to avoid becoming authoritarian in the future and I'd like there to be methods of circumventing potential authoritarian abuses of people's rights. Are you for internet censorship too?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nuh uh! They were just using threats and violence to cause a political outcome!
That's terrorism. >You're right, I don't trust any government!
Then frick off already you hypocritical coward. >I want there to be was of circumventing abuses of power
Read: I want there to be ways for drug dealers and terrorists to avoid losing their assets
You're a joke going I circles at this point, kid. The thread's over and everyone can see that you're moronic. It's time to stop posting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think everybody reading can see you're wrong. Fun thread, enjoy the rest of your day.
The method is called "voting". >b-but the majority disagrees with me
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you're actually wrong?
Good luck voting for change in China
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lmao >what about x
Double lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's no "what about," we're talking about countries in general rather than specific countries. Voting isn't always an option or the solution.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are the people protesting the Roe v Wade decision now terrorists? I see a lot of threats of violence.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Were the BLM protestors "terrorists?"
2 years ago
Anonymous
The method is called "voting". >b-but the majority disagrees with me
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you're actually wrong?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Leaving out the question of where the frick do you live that this is a genuine concern, I hope you do realize that the way the NFT community deals with scams is by blacklisting the stolen NFTs in question such that every marketplace will refuse to trade it, so there exists a precedent within the crypto community of freezing someone's assets. What's even better, because of the open ledger if anyone does dare accept to trade with a blacklisted wallet the government would know immediately.
>People don't like obvious scams because they hate freedom and opportunity!
Does anyone ever actually fall for this line, or do you not know because you wouldn't dare promote crypto in person?
Maybe you should learn how to read. I'm saying cryptocurrency isn't 100% scams (or even if you believe it is currently, it's not inherently a scam). I'm not supporting the scams at all. >do you not know because you wouldn't dare promote crypto in person?
Who says I don't?
>It was supposed to be a decentralized currency
no
it was always ment to make money for the creatiors.
if you made some cryptocurrency so successful that its adopted world wide then congratulations your "decentralized" currency just centralized worth of everything in one place.
what decentralized means is decentralized storage with centralized components.
>play to earn!
Blizzard tried that with Diablo 3 at launch.
It did so poorly that the franchise literally never recovered. Because as it turns out the designed the game around the idea of getting people to interact with the Real Money Auction House. So even getting basic equipment that your character could even use was a fricking nightmare. I remember the first time I played though it as my Witch Doctor. I ended up getting to the second to last area in the game before I got rid of my final white item, most of my gear was 20-30 levels behind either way, but hey atleast they had stats i could use on them...and you know, actually even equip it.
>The Ouya failed because Stadia
That's a new one
Yup
Was Stadia even a thing back then? I'm pretty fricking certain Stadia came out at least a couple years after the Ouya.
>Was Stadia even a thing back then?
It was
Stadia launched 3 years after Ouya bit the dust
>Be con artist chud
>Decide to dropship Alibaba parts and put them in a black makeshift box.
>Engrave a logo from a logo generator website on the box.
>Put in buzz words about "Web 3.0" and "blockchain" to attract crypto fricks.
>Frick up because you don't know jack shit about video game consoles.
>blames a failure for a failure
>other failure wasn't even announced before their own thing was a failure
t. pleb who doesnt have a Wallet Button on his controller
Wasn't Ouya dead before Stadia was even announced?
And dead for YEARS at that. This Polium thing is fricking baffling.
Yes. Ouya was a decade ago, Stadia was like two years ago lmao.
Ah yes, Stadia, the new behemoth of the video game industry.
What year was Ouya? 2012-13?
gaming
shots fired
Why do you keep reposting this same image? Also why don't you post the whole conversation?
here's the whole conversation, part 1.
this crypto homosexual shit will flop on impact and i cannot fricking wait to witness the seething. im so glad to know this shit will not infest every single one of my hobbies.
Jesus
part 2
The yandare dev is great
> Furry spends 8 tweets overexplaining what everyone already got from one guy simply posting "what games can I play"
Welcome to the internet
Games have awoken, they destroyed NFTs and they are in the process of destroying crypto.
Finally, progress.
>here's 20+ posts explaining what would make me buy your console
>What will make you interested in buying the Polium One console?
Is their twitter run by a bot?
I didn't think it was possible but it has less games then the PS5.
>shinking that maybe the anon was deceiving me
>see the whole conversation
>the polium dude say that they are in talks with developers
>cant name 1 game in the console
Yeah the whole Convo is literally one extra sentence of
>We got nothing
>all the leftists replying to this who have never even heard of Guild of Guardians, Gods Unchained, Ethermon, Axie Infinity, Illuvium and others.
They aren't games, and they aren't worth time and effort. For once, both sides of the political spectrum agree how shit nfts are, that's something you may never see again.
Both political sides agree on a lot of things, not that you'd ever know since /misc/ invaders have to make everything an us vs them
gods unchained is actually a halfway decent hearthstone clone
Ganker shoulda played it. I earned a couple hundred bucks just for playing it a short while when it was newish.
Why would I need a console... to play browser games?
Because people don't know it's a browser game console
Same reason you buy a PlayStation or Xbox.
Can't play Monster Hunter in a browser.
>All the literally everyones who have never heard of these shovelware titles.
What is a web 3 game?
Built in cryptoshit.
NFT-skins, etc.
A glorified web browser game. If you have Chrome/Firefox/Brave you can play it.
Yeah like crypto games worked so well before
>brustein
bruh
like a gatcha game, except you're allowed to trade the shit you pull for
Snoys finally not the number one laughing stock
>thread about poilium
>brain goes to sony
rent free
wtf is web3 i still can grasp the concept
Filtered from cryptofuture
so reduce this down for me. what is a blockchain game? is it basically a video game that distracts you while your hardware is being used to mine coins?
It's like one of those early 2000's website, text-only "MMORPG" games I imagine.
Except these have the NFT/crypto grifting twist and are solely targeted at adults
You know gacha games on phones where morons spend real money to unlock jpegs of their waifu? A blockchain game is exactly that except only one jpeg of every unlock exists, so if somebody gets the SSSRG pull of Nero getting doubleteamed by two disembodied black penises in her swimsuit outfit, literally nobody else is able to get that one anymore. The best anybody can hope for is the SSSRG pull of Nero getting doubleteamed by two disembodied black penises in her PE athlete uniform instead.
the problem is that you wrap around the top of "value" right back over into "worthless"
how many gacha jpgs exist? infinite, so long as you're willing to keep pulling the handle on the slot machine. You saw the streamer get five of the girl you want, so you keep going. Rare, but attainable
One of a kind holographic super secret? Neat if you got it, impossible to get otherwise, and it is a lot easier to bilk you into gambling for a hit then it is for you to mortgage your home to buy the picture from the guy who did get it
Its even worse than that. Everything in the game is exchange-able for real money, basically, and is meant to be a "play to earn" environment. So it isn't like the devs can just say "Hey, this isn't fun anymore we won't want a bunch of constant chinese grinders selling this item" or "Hey, instead of selling in-game gold for what Alex Jones thinks he can get someone to pay, we'll standardize it so people can pay for their subscription with gold, or pay for a month's subscription token and sell that to other players who have gold, so its controlled and of benefit to the game and player" . No, the entire point of the game is now about monetization, fun is not really part of the equation, its about ROI. That atop needless NFT-style "only one person can get this item AND they can sell it to other people on the same blockchain hurrr" when its perfectly possible for any game to have a database where only one item drops and users can trade it to each other and use it within the game, now its about turning it into a commodity for speculation that can be pegged to another crypto and ultimately a real fiat amount. The entire idea is asinine and hostile to the very idea of gaming as an activity for fun and enjoyment.
Oh and the Ouya didn't die because of a lack of market necessity, it died because it had a shitty business plan and didn't embrace being an Android set top box early enough. You COULD use one as a regular Android box for sideloading shit, but it was separate from the Ouya part of the OS for awhile until a later update, and they pushed their own app store and didn't officially support others. It could have worked better if they made a few changes.
The hilarious part is the block chain chunks they have to work with are so small that they don’t even hold the images for nfts
Ni No Kuni Cross Worlds, the second most predatory whale bait kusoge on the market right now, after Diablo Immortal. It has coin wallet integration, you can trade in and out of the game's premium and secondary premium currencies and make more coin off of it, if you're lucky. Supposedly they're going to integrate NFTs in the next year, but that seems more like smoke blown up people's asses.
>miyakazi known for le wholesome stories
>shits the bed with generic JRPG
>goes full demon and starts doing this shit
what le fug is going on in Japan
>The OUYA failed because there wasn't a market need.
Correct.
There is also no market need for Stadia or Polium One.
>failed because of stadia despite failing years beforre stadia waseven announced
wtf
>Hyping up Web3 like it means anything to the average consumer
>As cryptos are crashing hard
>Claiming cloud/mobile gaming killed the Ouya and not the pitiful shitty games available for it or the fact that it tried to compete with actual consoles.
>Overstating the success of Stadia years before it was even announced.
>Bullshit promises
>Wink at the end
This is way past Todd Howard levels of bullshit.
Yeah. We are reaching Peter Molyneux shit.
Well, that's exactly the kind of person that resonates with cryptotards.
Molyneux squandered all of this goodwill on that cube shit he pulled.
And still made $50m+ with just a video pitch for a game. There's always fools eager to be parted from their money.
Copium One. All cryptogays should be executed without trial
>Sure all current games suck major wiener, but maybe they won't suck eventually!
Why is hardware the problem with adoption here? I know next to nothing about web3 does it require something normal PCs don't already have?
I will tell you if you post THAT image.
>Why is hardware the problem with adoption?
It isn't.
Being a web3 game means its code and state are contained on the blockchain in hundreds of chunks, each of which needs to be successfully posted on the chain and correctly linked to every other relevant Blockchain payload. This makes them inherently slow, dramatically limits the amount of info any use can post at once, and requires them to be immaculately designed as you can't go back and edit a single payload's code if there's a bug or typo. It also means you can't make a game with things like real time graphics that would actually fricking use a graphics card.
In short the entire concept of Web3 games is fricking moronic and this console is purely a scam on investors.
>most Web 3 games are not fun to play like traditional games
My fricking sides. Why would you admit that?
>we are building for the future, not for tomorrow
Then people are going to buy in the future and not tomorrow, why the frick would they pay $300 to be a beta tester while shit's still shit with no evidence of it getting better?
>why the frick would they pay $300 to be a beta tester while shit's still shit with no evidence of it getting better?
Are you familiar with paid early access and crowdfunding? People are more than willing to pay a premium for the chance of playing an unfinished promise of a game.
That's usually at least tied to a big name with a good reputation. Not to excuse morons like that, but even they're not tempted by something they know literally nothing about.
Anon, have you seen what digital plots of land in the metaverse go for? The plots not only don't exist yet, they don't exist yet in a product that may never even launch.
Never underestimate what morons with money will fund, and never assume that people with money are in any way smarter than the average dipshit.
its incredibly alarming how many people there are just sitting on 100s of thousands of disposable income that have been exposed cus of NFT shit. All the suffering and shit in the world and these people are literally begging for excuses to get rid of their money to buy apes or some rock in a fake video game or something.
It's to the point I can't dismiss the idea of brainwashing anymore.
As a sales engineer I talked to so many investors big and small, and I've had contact with so many older folks living in six figure pensions they can't spend, and the trend with all of them is the same:
"Sure, I could help people with this money or find something I love, but that won't guarantee me a lot of money back!"
Old-ass homie, you just got done telling me you don't have enough things to spend your money on, WHY DO YOU NEED MORE!?
its not uniquely american, but it is uniquely american how widespread this mindset is in the lower classes. Its not even just about muh poor, why don't these people spend money commissioning statues, building things, buying up state land and getting a park constructed in their name, fricking anything that would help society.
I'm not giving another 4.5 trillion to Africa Nagubu, frick off.
>A failure blaming another failure for their failure.
Sometime truth is funnier than fiction.
It's stranger than fiction
>visiting multiple sites to play a game
What? I don't do that to begin with
>we are actually building
well I guess that settles it. it can't be a scam.
Building in a garage
I will not wait.
And I will not see.
Because these things don't happen lmao.
>no more multiple wallets
Oh thank God, that was literally my problem with NFTs and crypto, and not the fact it's all a greater fool scam.
>or visiting multiple sites just to play a game
Damn, how will non-Web 3 consoles ever recover from that one?
Pretty well
here's your game lineup, bro
Actually one of those games isn't real it's just a random asset from another game
>bros our games will be decentralized
>oh so then you're making an MMO where you can plug in whatever server hookup you want, giving tools to allow people to host their own servers and creative a competition of services so that players will never have to worry about their progress getting erased when the servers go down or being exploited by predatory carrot on a stick practices?
>bro the blockchain or something
I hate how these morons have ruined actual discussion of decentralization.
>>oh so then you're making an MMO where you can plug in whatever server hookup you want, giving tools to allow people to host their own servers
That's not decentralization, that's open source software.
guess I'm moronic and a sophist
>and a sophist
not in this instance. unless you're a liberal or something then I'd agree overall.
I just want homies to be free
The fact that any use case for NFT games can just as easily be done via open source software makes NFTs fricking pointless.
you have no idea what open source means. Tons of games have dedicated server software without being open source.
Have you seen anyone who topped up $3000 into their PSN/XBL account?
this big spender has 3000 blockchain bux in their wallet
>decentraland
lol
where is decentralized mario and the legend of centra a link to your wallet
>where is decentralized mario and the legend of centra a link to your wallet
fricking kek
>user profile name is a hex address
finally, a real use case for blockchain, because I was tired of using words and names to refer to people
How is Axie Infinity even running at this point after they got $600 million stolen from them?
>The value of the game's associated token, Smooth Love Potion (SLP), crashed in February 2022 amid a wider NFT and cryptocurrency crash, losing over 99% of its peak value. Sky Mavis attempted to stabilize the price by introducing new features to the game, but these attempts were ineffective. The low exchange value of SLP has caused a massive exodus of players, leaving guild leaders without their cheap third-world labor force to grind on their behalf.[8] Sky Mavis removed references to "play-to-earn" on its websites and marketing as its tokens plummeted in value.[23]
kek what the frick
i think i'm alright without these 'games'
>leaving guild leaders without their cheap third-world labor force to grind on their behalf.
Like, in what universe is
>treat your game like a job to generate value for other people
in any way appealing? I barely tolerate this shit in real life.
>in any way appealing? I barely tolerate this shit in real life.
Libertarians still fricking moronic what else is new?
>in any way appealing? I barely tolerate this shit in real life.
It's for tards who think you're wasting your time if you're not constantly doing something that earns you money.
Because cryptotards are fricking moronic and will keep using the same services after being scammed countless times
Aw man, my favorite game: Wallet
>GRIT
Lmao, it's the scam game with nft horses that are just ported from Unity.
web 3 console, more like wet pee cum soil
>no more multiple wallets or visiting multiple sites just to play a game
??????????????????
It really feels like we're witnessing a rehash of the 80s video game market crash
maybe that's a good thing
what, for which game do you need multiple wallets?
Is that their selling point? payment is easier?
No one mcfricking knows
Where the frick did this even come from? It's like an alien is trying to sell us a console.
>something that came out 6 years later is the reason we failed
so wait, these guys made ouya? and now they're trying again with this?
how do you not learn from your mistakes? i for one welcome the next flop to point and make fun of
No they're not the guys they're just scammers like the amico
Mike Mumbauer former head of Sony support studio VASG left to form his own game company. He later gets kicked out by the team he took with him because he kept leaking shit and lying about it to their face so they couldn't trust him. He's now working on an NFT game called Ashfall with the Days Gone director. I'll give him credit that he's an excellent bullshit artist to keep getting these 100 million dollar contracts.
can we please have jannies do their job
this OBVIOUS polium shilling became tired yesterday
>Mocking something as shitty
>HURR DURR ITS SHILLING
moron
yep, just like the nonstop elden nig bullshit threads on the last weeks were 100% honest complaints/praising of it and definitely not a paid effort to keep the game on the spotlight or anything.
>look guys OFFICIAL ACCOUNT tweeted something!
is not a worthy thread and the fact it's still up does nothing but confirming that wearelookingatpaidcontent.jpg
Now go royally frick off along with this piece of shit hardware
meds
go collect your imaginary money points, gay.
It's a meme homosexual get over it
stay mad about being exposed, homo.
Take your meds
>if I keep denying it someone will believe me
LMAOing@ your ass
>this game sucks
>HE'S TALKING ABOUT A VIDEO GAME AND NOT PORN, Black folk OR ECELEBS! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOOOOOOOOOOOWN! PAID CONTENT! SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLS! A THREAD ABOUT LIBERALS DIED FOR THIS!!!!!!!
Yeah he's being a moron
>This sucks I better post about it
>WHY ISNT RHIS troony SHIT
there was literally a discord server of crazy people dedicated to shazamposting about elden ring
is probably FROM that server
Yeah 100%
everyone is making fun of it
>another DOA console
>blames Stadia for another console dying
>their logo looks like Gamecube
>"stolen gamecube logo
>scrambles into:
>semblance to google
Since the end goal of crypto games is always 'early adopter makes money', is there any future in there?
It seems to me all they ever want to make is "runescape but someone pays you to grind fishing on your land" which is just confusing
Who would ever go "I should rent a really high level gun from a landlord in order to win this match"
feels like how really old people think MMOs work but these guys are all young
I think more people should realize that there are living humans out there that literally worship capitalism, and want an element of it in every aspect of their lives because they only go to where they are by being a money focused psycho.
the point of these games isn't to enjoy the game, is to enjoy the money. imagine the Diablo 3 Real Money Auction House but without the Diablo 3
Oh no I get the concept - it's an easy money pyramid scheme where you tell five friends and they tell five friends and soon you're subletting Falador's only bench and making bank
But like, MLM schemes only work when other people think they can make money, and game cosmetic sales only work in games that people play
Crypto is in a weird place where like, Venezuelans are plenty happy to grind Runescape Gold (and having just checked, the 100M to USD exchange rate has *only* dropped 40% over the last year, making it a safer investment than any crypto lmao)
Nice one, thats even dumber than 'our controller has a touchpad, you are not gonna find that somewhere else'.
>doubt
Based moron console
Gotta admire the confidence at least.
It's beautiful
i'm tired of the 'fake it until you make it' arrogance of nft shills
Who the frick actually wants NFTs in video games in the first place? This motherfricker says
>OUYA failed because there wasn’t a market need
But where’s the market demand for this shit? Who’s sitting there going “boy, I sure do wish there were games with even MORE israeli DLC and microtransaction practices! When will someone make a console for me?”
No one! It's just these morons are forcing it into everything
But where’s the force? Where’s the Killer App that compels me into this shitty ecosystem? Where’s the Destiny 2 or FFXIV or Bloodborne or Breath of the Wild of NFTs, the game that makes me go “I’m not big on this NFT shit but I can’t NOT play that”?
These people seem to think that the DLC/MTX *is* the sales pitch, rather than the thing you’re made to tolerate against your better judgment.
Exactly there is none
That's why it's so forced
It’s not even forced it’s utterly blind. Forced is Ubisoft trying to cram NFTs into AssCreed or whatever, this is laughably out of touch with reality.
They're not marketing to you. They're marketing to other NFT-obsessed blockchain web 3.0 metaverse homosexuals. I swear the Stadia reference has to be intentionally dumb to signal to anyone who knows better.
That’s ass-backward and ignorant of economics.
All speculation markets are ultimately backed by non-speculation markets. The real estate market is ultimately backed by the guy who needs land for his house or office. The stock market is ultimately backed by people who want to own a company’s assets. The crypto market is backed by people who want to do illegal things with money in an untraceable way. The futures market is backed by people who need oil and wheat and shit, the forex market is backed by people who owe taxes in another country, the art market is backed by people who want to hang paintings with brush strokes on their walls. Gold and diamonds make beautiful israeliteelry and semiconductors and drill bits.
Who wants an NFT? Not to sell to someone else, I mean who actually WANTS an NFT? With whom does the buck stop? With these games, it stops with people like me, who enjoy playing games. I AM the guy building a house and paying taxes with USD and buying oil for my car. I’m the end consumer who props up the chain of ridiculous speculation. Everyone is betting everyone else how bad I, and people like me, want this stuff.
I’m asking who actually thinks I want it at all? Never mind flipping it for a profit, forget the middleman economy of speculators, who is the END USER of this horse shit?
It's a Kickstarter scam. They'll get whatever short term gains from it and drop it without a huge class action lawsuit.
I was reading some 2deep4me economics but basically
>old economy was the trade of valuable goods
>new economy is the trade of the concept of valuable goods
land and food are not real scarcities, we've had the technology to make these free for everyone, we just don't feel like it. The illusion that food runs out helps prop up the lie. But as society goes on it becomes obvious that the lie can be way looser. People WANT goods that have the illusion of scarcity. That's it. The actual good doesn't matter, its for people that want to buy into the concept of being le smart and clever tradesman.
You are not the target demographic at the moment, you will be when Web3 has become as ubiquitous as Web2 however. We're actually mocving forward as fast as we are due to billionaires/larger companies pushing Web3 much harder than they did during the early years of Web2 (regarding social media). I think in 5-10 years those who are not into it will be the same kind of people who still use flip phones over smartphones with touch screens, not complete luddites but it will be seen as strange to be against it.
t. Person who works in the Web3 space
>t. Person who has a lot to gain by baiting the unwashed masses into buying his garbage
All you had to say
Kinda how Capitalism works bud, same applies to every company that is for profit. Still though the people who buy our products are crypto/Web3 natives, the general public has not been easy to tap into at the moment, that's why there will need to be gradual shifts in the way we educate people going forward if we are to change that.
The inherent value in NFT's is typically its own uniqueness, sure if its art you can replicate the appearance of it maybe but not whatever is backing it. That's the same as comparing a fake Pokémon card to a real one. Also nobody is trying to control your actions, if anything it would be the opposite since you have full ownership of whatever it is you choose to purchase. Whether its the art based ones, 3D models exclusive to you in games or virtual plots of land.
>That's the same as comparing a fake Pokémon card to a real one.
Tournament legality? Like, there is one thing an NFT could be actually used for, but digital card games are already a thing without that, so it's another dead end
>digital card games are already a thing without that
But you don't actually own those assets in that game, if you're banned you don't get to sell them in the future to collectors/other players (if you had the option in the first place). I've seen games where they give you in game currency for paying over time that you can use to buy new ones, vs games that only offer that option through using fiat currency.
oh lord so the only market for NFT is the "Did you know one day steam will take away all your games I'm srs guys" crowd? yeah lol they're fricked
That's a part of it game-wise yes. Me personally I'm interested in seeing different AAA quality games in the future interact with one another. I would be more likely to put money into a game if I can use those skins for example in a completely different title. We are also selling software solutions to some of the largest companies out there at the moment as well, so it's not all about front facing stuff like artwork. We have software engineers working for us that probably make like 150k doing this stuff from home.
NFT does nothing to enable that and in fact just adds more obstacles
>Me personally I'm interested in seeing different AAA quality games in the future interact with one another. I would be more likely to put money into a game if I can use those skins for example in a completely different title
lmao die shill
>shill
I man I work in a company in the space, I already said that. I am genuinely interested in the technology though, really advanced stuff going on there. Not a surprise people are getting rich off it.
>really advanced stuff
lmao, yeah looking for primes is really advancede
https://www.zeedz.io/whitepaper
What other games offer stuff like this exactly?
Well Burger King has had stuff like Mac N Cheetos on their menu so that honestly isn't too outlandish to think about. I don't see having any more option as a bad thing. Part of what has turned me off of gaming for so many years now is the lack of inventiveness in the space, games used to be more unique but if we can't have that anymore we may as well give more financial incentives to smaller studios/individuals and create new ways to play games, as opposed to the yearly Ubisoft titles we have now over-saturating the market.
>https://www.zeedz.io/whitepaper
what a load of bullshit coated in "its for a good cause". At its core its still the usual NFT scheme.
If you want part of money spend to go to some noble cause you can do that just fine without NFT. But guess what, that shit doesn't pull. If the base premise of your game is to give money to some "good" organisation or charity, no one will be interested in this shit if you can just directly give the money to a charity and be done with it.
Sure but most charities aren't transparent and chances are your money doesn't go where you think it goes. At least with most blockchains you can track funds to an individual wallet and are able to call people out much easier.
Think that was the point.
The NFT space is still extremely new and if our tech and game systems weren't valuable our guys wouldn't be partnering with multi-billion dollar companies I imagine. We're under Paramount and Steve Cohen is on our board of directors.
>At least with most blockchains you can track funds to an individual wallet and are able to call people out much easier.
holy kek I really hope you don't actually believe that
>dude, what do you mean our crypto shit is pointless? don't you know <<big name>> and <<other big name>> and <<another big name>> support our crypto shit? that's all the proof you should ever want or need
Ah yes, the cryptobro calling card. Beautiful. Now link us the Matt Damon ad.
>cryptobro
Go back to Twitter please.
>if our tech and game systems weren't valuable our guys wouldn't be partnering with multi-billion dollar companies
What shocking naivete.
Money doesn't make people smart.
Yes, you are more intelligent than the people running corporations with more money in their accounts than many countries possess.
I'm in the 99.99 percentile, so yes. That's neither here nor there, however. The real issue is that you think big corporations and their employees are somehow more competent than other people by virtue of the amount of money they have. This makes you naive at best and moronic at worst.
I like the idea of you slipping and falling into a comically sized blender set to frappe'
>whitepaper
yeah let's speculate on its future worth lmao. if you're trolling you're good at the seemingly disinterested but coercing via "subtle" fomo speech.
>proof of stake
okay so you have no clue what you're talking about
when I was 15 I thought it was pretty cool that you could get an Ezio outfit for your Xbox Live avatar
I'd engage further about how sharing assets between games is a pipe dream but I've just realized everything can always get worse so why not assume that in ten years Unreal 6 will have everyone using interchangable skeleton-rigs so all models interact in all games
>Unreal 6 will have everyone using interchangable skeleton-rigs so all models interact in all games
Honestly that's not too different from Unreal now, since that's basically just Fortnite. I will say collaborations are big in this space, we've made millions off of them since we started last year.
>I would be more likely to put money into a game if I can use those skins for example in a completely different title.
Doesn't work. To use a food analogy, it would be to ask every restaurent to have the Big Mac on their menu so you always have access to it. Imagine everything that would be involved to make that happen.
that's a good food analogy. but nonetheless
>food analogy
Actual software developer here, there's several technical and legal hurdles to what you're saying and NFTs solve exactly none of them. You can't put someone's copyrighted designs and name on your game without their legal permission, so you need the other company's express support via a written contract (which probably includes paying them). Then you need the actual asset data (models, textures, sounds, material layers, etc.) which are not stored in the blockchain. Not only that but you need them in a format that works with the engine you're using or else you have to make everything from scratch, and then they need to be rigged, and then hopefully they don't clash with your game's art direction. And only after all that is said and done you get to the point where you begin wondering: "okay but how do we communicate with each other's private databases? now that there is a huge problem" at which point any software dev will immediately tell you that a pair of REST web services will have that taken care of, and with the myriad of frameworks out there you can have a fast, efficient, secure, reliable one set up in a day. I seriously can't overstate how the only problem that NFTs "solve" is literally the easiest hurdle to clear using regular "web2" technology in the entire undertaking that would be having two games from two independent developers sharing skins.
That's a lot of words to explain to a moron that the Blockchain would just be a slow and pointless database barely tied to each individual company's centralized item management
>Then you need the actual asset data (models, textures, sounds, material layers, etc.)
I'm aware, we make all those assets ourselves in house and present them to the company we work with. Creating inter-operability with other brands is one of the big things we're trying to figure out actually, since many people are demanding it of us. Already all of our websites are attached to the same framework, games are another beast though I will admit and individual companies making their own games that are linked would be the easiest way of going about it. Pic related is an example from our art team for instance of a randomized 3D model they made that will be in a future Star Trek game.
looks like cheap CGI from 1999
So in true crypto fashion you're something that already exists (indian asset churning companies) but with a fancier name to fool idiots into believing this is some newfangled cutting edge revolutionary tech?
>individual companies making their own games that are linked would be the easiest way of going about it.
Then of what actual use is the Blockchain? None. You're literally building around it because of its severe limitations. You'd be better off just hosting a traditional database with normal authentication schemes.
Blockchain was made to solve a problem: how do you record and disseminate information in an explicitly zero trust environment? It sacrifices any semblance of efficiency and utility as a traditional database in order to do so.
Tell me: do you think heavily litigated licensing agreements between gaming corporations are zero trust environments?
Exactly this, anyone shilling game NFTs either doesn't understand this point, or stands to profit from scams.
Note that this post got no actual reply.
Because they're correct.
As far as games are concerned, there's nothing here that can't be done more effectively without blockchains.
You'd think that THE EXISTENCE OF THE STEAM MARKETPLACE would have clued people in to that a long time ago.
Blockchain can remove the need for trust between parties to some degree.
Zero trust = low privacy
Whats corporate espionage anyway?
Also fricking squid coin teached you nothing?
Block chain is shit and you can scam people while following the rules
Which, as I've pointed out multiple times, is not helpful or necessary in this scenario. Business to business and business to consumer agreements are mediated and enforced by the state, they are not zero-trust environments where you have to worry about clandestine edits.
I will hurt you for mistreating the connie like that, why the frick did you mangle the proportions?
>That's the same as comparing a fake Pokémon card to a real one
People want to own Pokemon cards. Nobody wants to own NFTs. People only want to sell NFTs. There are collectors who actually WANT to have a shiny charizard or whatever (IDK Pokemon cards), just for the sake of having it. That is true of exactly ZERO NFTs. Everyone with an NFT is holding it to sell.
As someone who has access to tends of thousands of user accounts and can see their activity I can say that is not the case for most people who make an account with my company. Maybe other places but I've sold some of mine for far more than what I paid for them just so those people could have access to early sale ones for themselves.
HODLing. Nobody just admires their NFT collection. Maybe like, the guy who bought Beeple’s first 5000 dailies or something, that was something that was actual ART and some rich c**t could be proud of owning that. Not someone’s 64x64 rare pepe bmp files
We've got guys with like 80 pages of next to worthless NFT's that they know will see a roi on. Asking why people buy them is like asking why people waste thousands of dollars in Clash of Clans or Overwatch. People just like to spend money on stuff they're into I guess.
>they know will see a roi on
Will they really?
You can’t compel me to use NFTs because NFTs can be replicated. NFTs are just the concept of ownership; a game or a book or a movie has value in being a thing people want, paired with the ostensible legal threat of punishment for copying it. NFTs don’t even have THAT. Their value is divorced from their notion of ownership even in theory, how can they be shoved on me by sellers who want to control my actions?
>Who the frick actually wants NFTs in video games in the first place?
People who don't actually play games and think an NFT will magically make their Fortnite skin work in Minecraft.
these people really read like cultists. i know they have a financial incentive to drag people into their ponzi scheme, but it's just odd to read how personally they seem to take everything.
Well they do stand to make millions.
>literally the entire zeitgeist of video games will change in less than a decade
>but people will still use discord somehow
what
Pedophiles gotta have a place somewhere
its the kind of person who doesn't like video games and think they're for kids but plays with money like its a toy because they were born in money. You know the kinda homie that thinks owning a gaming PC is a mental health red flag?
All I got out of this is that you can grind a standardized currency for multiple games. I gotta admit it's better than using real world money for this shit but it sure doesn't sound appealing.
>5% drop chance
>only 4 drops in existence
It kinda reads like playing completely dead games nobody in their right mind actually wants to play, ngl
Because this dude doesnt actually play games and thinks 5% means something.
This actually kinda makes me sick. It doesn't sound cool, it sounds immersion breaking. Regardless it will never happen because that would require a ton of communication and compliance between different development teams.
I think I'd rather live in a Radiohead album than this.
I read that thinking it was a parody showing the ridiculousness of blockchainbrain until halfway through. Who the frick wants to play candy crush to upgrade their gear in wow?
I think the point is its an optional bonus to having played candy crush
It's not optional if there's a massive PVP upgrade behind it, which is implied. Regardless, I can't imagine anyone outside of soulless bugmen that work at the carcinogen factory for 12 hours a day just to play Amazing Super Ultra Golden Boy's Adventure in Time and Space New 2022 for 10 minutes on the train home to the dog kennel he lives in to enjoy these kinds of "get the number higher at all costs" types of mechanics.
Sounds like hell
Oh yeah bro, people who come home exhausted from work and only have a few hours of vidya time would love this.
Came to thread hoping to see this. It's just a shitpost, right?
I don't think so unfortunately
Frick man. It reads almost exactly like one the posts from here along the lines of
>it's 2034
>strap on my intravenous VR opioid dispenser after finishing a bowl of Monsantobrand gruel flakes with REAL animal protein supplement
>join the guys (they/them) for a grind session in homebound 3 (an indie undertale inspired mmorpg) to farm estrolax
I'm worried for the actual future.
Who even knows with these people, Poe's law is completely dead at this point.
The moment videogames become this I will abandon my hobby for good.
Pretty much this, except I have enough old games as it presently stands. The future can frick itself.
This whole thing reads like parody. The ridiculous time gates for everything. The fact every made up game title consists of the word "Chains".
It has to be parody. Please.
it is, the dude in the post stole it from some comedian
I think it is because an artist on another thread sent them a clown girl picture saying it should be their new logo and they said they loved it
Stop advertising, dude, nobody cares.
1st paragaph - thats work, not fun video games
2nd - more work, also a second job
3rd another fricking video game to daily manage
4th- yet another fricking work
rest -prepare for 5th job. alsoyou need real job to fund those jobs as you need crypto to buy in. and you cant cash out. you can only quit
who wants that? people wo will benefit from it. so not you but the guy who will sell you the crypto
Imagine being so stupid you think that blockchain makes game to game interoperation easier or more meaningful. All this shit still needs to be programmed, but instead of being programmed normally you now have to make it conform to blockchain specifications. moronic.
Also this vision of the future he gives looks more like 9-5 videogame slavery than actual gaming. It's bizarre
>this vision of the future he gives looks more like 9-5 videogame slavery than actual gaming
check this horrifying shit out right here
Terry Gilliam was right with zero therum
what the FRICK
I still can’t wrap my head around this shit. Rent out something in a video game? Like, you rent a rare item/creature to a player?… how does he pay him? What’s in it for anyone? Why is this better than just turning on a game and playing it?
don't you wanna live real life and purchase leases in your vidya games, anon?
I worked at it, basically they give you an account and send you to do the daily grind, which in Axie's case was playing the singleplayer several times and win 10 online matches, just by doing that the game gives you the currency.
>how does he pay him?
Like any other form of paying method?
>What’s in it for anyone?
With the game currency obtained they can mint and create new axies that they(are supposed to) sell using crypto
>Why is this better than just turning on a game and playing it?
Because in order to get into the business at all you need to make a huge investment, hundreds or thousands of dollars(which crashed, now it's jsut dozens, lol) to get your own axie and do the same.
Every time I see this I'm amazed by how little self awareness cryptobros have. It really does read like a parody. How do you write all this shit out and not realize how nightmarish and awful it sounds? Not to mention how disconnect from actual vidya it is.
>5% drop rate on a boss in an MMO
>low
this is the dumbest shit
why would anyone want this tedious nightmare?
Jesus fricking christ... That was the cringiest shit ive read
>Have to spend an hour crafting an item
>not gathering the mats, just the actual crafting
This person has never played a video game in his life.
>>not gathering the mats, just the actual crafting
>This person has never played a video game in his life.
i have unironically taken longer than that to make something end-game in atelier
granted it was making a handful of things that later turned into one thing, but still
What does that character just stand there for an hour pounding an Anvil? Is it like a "work order" type thing where you set it and the game does it automatically in the background even if you log off?
No I mean I, personally, take like an hour to go through proper ingredients and build orders to get the desired end results of the item I'm making.
If you mean in-universe, crafting used to take a set amount of time (you would regularly pass months by in short spans of time) though it was assumed that you know the character ate slept and did other things while this time was passing, although this was never talked about or shown. The real world time for this was like 2 seconds but the in-game time could be several days or weeks.
This is like everything that would exist in my nightmare scenario for the industry.
Imagine the kind of person who would present this shit as a good thing.
did klaus schwab write that
This is moronic. On what planet are all these disparate companies going to work together to make all that work?
>he fell for the decentralized meme
its not decentralized. if you put all your shit into one basket, its centralized in that basket
decentralized blockchain is a meme and can never exist
>2030
>Every videogame is one of those shitty Freemium phone games
I want to put a bullet in his head.
This concept is at leat not inherently dog shit. The crypto/nft aspect is beyond moronic but "what if your minecraft happened in the same universe as EVE or some shit" is a novel idea, it's just that actually making it work would be such an undertaking that would dwarf antyhing currently existing to have it any sort of presentable state.
Then there's the more important issue of "Are these games even any fun", in concept you just smash 20 games together and say they're the same world and effect each other, almost akin to recettear but make it a couple of orders of magnitude more comlicated than "dungeoneering gives you stuff to sell in a shop sim"
I knew a dude that owned a trucking business and wanted to diversify his assets by hiring a game dev studio, but instead of letting us do our jobs he kept telling us insane ideas like this, being able to play EVE and shit, and then touch down to play Halo or Total War or something.
that's the thing, conceptually at least it's a good idea, it's just it's near impossible to work out logistically and then there's the actual human time and resources that would be required
It depends on the idea. People inherently like compartmentalization. I don't want to have to load 5 games worth of data just to fricking around in one mode in one of those games, let alone mod and trouble shoot that shit.
well yes, i would think ideally they were to be optional, but that's the entire problem with the idea
the hypothetical idea of a game is nice, but making it real would have infinite problems
It's not feasible to have assets be compatible between different competing video games, but a handful of games designed with transferring NFTs between them in mind could theoretically work. The problem is launching an entire set of games with this feature in mind, and getting them to stay up and running long enough for any of it to matter. Lots of games are announced and treated like they'll be the next big thing, only to crash and burn. Remember Lawbreakers?
very vaguely, but for a slightly more real world example the guys at scam citizen had promised some FPS or something that would be connected to it
no idea if that ever went anywhere but it likely didn't considering its source
It doesn't really make sense in the way you put it, it sounds awful (though most games are doing setting-clashing crossovers daily now and no game takes its world seriously anymore)
This topic is always explored disingenuously. It makes more sense in the idea of being allowed to use your avatar's shoes across VRChat and SecondLife. Or a cardgame like magic where you can play on Arena, but also play (manually) in VRchat with someone you just met, or also on someone's fanmade EDH app, with the cards you "officially" own.
It's going to be like that IMO and I don't care if Ganker likes it or not, I think it's actually pretty cool. It's certainly better than what we currently have: You gatchapull shit and waste your time grinding shit battlepasses only for the game to eventually shut down.
I don't want to be kicked from my raid guild because I don't want to play Candy Crush in order to efficiently progress my character, thanks.
People who want to invest in NFTs.
The problem with NFTs is that they have zero utility. Some of them try to fake it by promising future payoffs like luxury yacht access, but there's no business model beyond getting more and more investors to actually pay for any of that. The smarter ones realize that when people realize that, the entire scam is going to implode, so they're looking for a way to give them some kind of utility, a reason people would buy them to actually use, not just hold onto in the hopes a bigger fool will come along and buy them.
Naively, if you never actually play them or have any involvement in their communities, games seem like the perfect match. Games have purely digital content that people actually want to obtain, NFTs are purely digital content that we can speculate on, it's perfect! The question "but does this actually add to the gameplay experience, or allow to happen that currently is technologically impossible?" never gets asked, because they don't exist to solve a problem the gamers are having, they exist to solve a problem that speculators are having.
When people talk about "play to earn", THEY don't want to play to earn. They want YOU to play to earn, and then create a currency market selling what you earned so that the investor class can make money speculating on it without having any interest in the game itself.
But it's all still just a greater-fool scam. Just look at Axie Infinity. All of those stories about the third world making money farming items to sell, but sell to who? Ever see any actual PLAYERS of that super-popular game, who'd want to buy that stuff for its actual utility in gameplay and not to speculate on or make their grind for stuff to speculate on more efficient? It's all just sold to speculators imagining how rich they'll be when all of the actual players want all this stuff they bought, not realizing that the fact its a speculation engine and not a game is what means that it'll never have any.
There are no need for multiple sites or wallets if platform has no games.
Whats web 3?
Web 2 plus LGBTQIA2S+.
Ok let me try again.
What the frick are web3 games?
>He thinks there are any games
They are like when you go home from the work and work some more. That's WEB3 in a nutshell. Just a buzzword to sell more shit people don't need.
I don't think these homosexuals who are making these console ad tweets have any better idea about it anyway.
The monetization of everything, it's whatever exists now but using NFTs or crypto in some way shape or form.
I wish someone, would tell me the % rate of failure in the terminator voice.
Stop advertising
I have always hated the fact I have multiple wallets all over the internet. Now it finally stops.
yeah, only a cryptotard has to deal with their self inflicted problem of multiple wallets
everyone else is using their one wallet that can buy groceries and pay for actually good games on any other platform
Is this at least from the same b***h who pushed the ouya? Pls let it be.
The hard questions.
they've gotta be shitting themselves after the reception this thing got
>cryptogays
What's with the obvious NGC logo ripoff?
I hope nintendo sues this scam outfit into bankruptcy
web 2 was one of the biggest mistakes of mankind why the frick would i want web 3
5 hours in photoshop
>No more visiting multiple sites just to play a game
That's exactly like every single console ever made. Do they think that's unique?
>implying there is a market need for some piece of shit console that can play video games that literally nobody wants, needs or will ever play
good luck morons
I'd say this is parody but I've lived in clown world for so long now that I'm starting to accept it as normal.
Oh that gif is great
Playdatechads...we still winning!
Playdate is a hipster conversation starter. I think the actual form factor is "alright" but the whole attitude around the product is clearly not video game focused.
The Ouya failed because it didn't have good exclusives.
For a game system to succeed it needs good exclusives that can't be played elsewhere, and a good price to marketing strength ratio.
Alternatively you can have a strong legacy with leftover goodwill and cult like fans. Then you can release utter garbage and still be successful.
But the reason the Ouya failed was because it lacked good exclusives. Anyone blaming the Ouya itself being a shit system with shit hardware are wrong. Yes the system sucked but that has never actually stopped a system from being successful before.
Ouya also failed because it was confusing with it's advertising
SIXTY BUCKS
GAMES ON THE TELEVISION
OUYA came out and failed before cloud/streaming games was still in its infancy. Stadia wouldn't even really be a thing until 5/6 years after the demise of the console.
Here is the new logo for Polium called Polium U
I mean they are looking for a new logo
Did some improvements
I wanna dm them thayc
small change
U needs to look similar
The colorblindness is strong here
No no the U has to be shaped like the thing not colored.
Should have been white but it already looks really terrible so that makes it better
A lot of companies are basically a pyramid of people bullshitting each other into believing that a company is good and for every person that recieves the bullshit, they have to keep it going in order to earn money from it.
The inventor has to bullshit the founder that the company is great so he will be putting money into the project.
The founder then has to bullshit initial investors that the company is great so they will buy stocks or he won't make back the money.
The initial investors who buy the stocks then have to bullshit new investors that the stock is actually great or they won't be able to resell the stocks.
and the cycle continues.
It feels like the entire modern AAA games industry is just bullshitting to investors and customers don't matter at all.
That's because it is. Sony's financial reports are so far removed from actual data that they're close to being in lawsuit territory.
Especially now that gigantic funds like Blackrock, Blackstone and Vanguard simply put billions of dollars into companies entirely based on ESG-scores rather than whether or not the company delivers products that customers buy or is even profitable.
>freakin crushtards using their obsidian battlestaves because it's easy to farm in a shitty mobile game
>real men had to mine obsidian in Crypteria to get their ore
who decided zoomies should have businesses now? Captcha TWT N4D
everytime I hear nft shilling
Why do these people always assume competitors will honor each other's NFTs? Nintendo would never let you use anyone else's NFTs on their platform, for example. What is the incentive?
the israelites will shake eachother's hands. Which isn't an insane expectation
Nintendo would lose out on the market for not allowing foreign NFTs, that's obvious. They'd be stupid not to.
Not only that, but imagine the balancing nightmare.
ONE game makes their bullshit that's tied to everything else super common/rare, thus demolishing everything.
this. 5 games will have the same rare shit and a 6th game will come and make one of those rare shits more common, causing their value to drop. games will routinely have to change drop rates for everything and add new shit. none of this even has anything remotely to do with gameplay, either, so you just have devs having to work on this bullshit instead of doing what they were originally passionate about. the concept of web 3 gaming is ass cancer through and through. completely soulless trash. imagine being immersed in a session of something like skyrim or elden ring and then you have to read a bunch of popups about whatever gay moroncoin is happening, or whatever.
Imagine if every single Pokemon was an NFT. That still doesn't mean you'd ever be able to fly across the skies in Halo or God of War ontop of your Charizard.
It's ridiculous.
Cryptogays live in a magical world where they expect businesses to waste time and money going against their natural self interests of "if it doesn't directly make us money, then there's no point to it." They expect all corporations to just suddenly become friends and work together implementing stuff that doesn't make them money.
It's kids that imagine and write entire articles on fandom wikis about consoles that don't exist but can play ALL the games without issues and do other things just not possible. Then they grow up and still think that way.
>Sony announces "The PlayStation" It's basically a PS6 but can play every single PlayStation 1-5 disk, natively.
>Nintendo announces The Nintendo 9001, It comes with ports for switch/3DS/DS games and a disk port that reads GC/Wii/WiiU games. You can buy peripherals that add GBA-GB functionality, one for NES/SNES/N64
>Xbox has all their games working, plus many windows/MS DoS games, plus SEGACD/Dreamcast and they have a peripheral that allows for MegaDrive/Geneisis/32X games to be played.
If only we lived in a better time line.
>SEGA joining Microsoft and not Nintendo
Cursed
There really is no reason why PS5 can't play PS1 discs when the PS3 could
money
This shit is from that same fat woman that did the Ouya? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTqhyHuKVKA
I really trust companies that have _ in their name, because the proper name was taken.
The ouya failed because there's no demand to play phone games on a television
>the problem is the market they dont want to buy shit!
cry me a river
The irony of a "web3" console talking about something else not having a "market need" is powerful enough that, were we able to harness it, we'd have no energy generation worries ever again.
was there even a single moment where being excited for an OUYA was anything but complete moronation? What exactly was the expectation for this thing? Its just a games console, what did people even think it did?
You will not have leisure time. You will always be on call and making money. And you will be miserable.
Oh so the price is going to be 300 USD
sounds like every startup since the 2000s
every startup that has failed, yes
I hope they make the prototype tho
>dude we have an awesome idea we just need 20 million in funding
>woah we got the funding now what do we do
>idk I didn't think that far ahead
>is our product even gonna work
>what product?
I love business.
>300$
>HDR, raytracing, 8k
And so the delusion begins
>custom hardware from Nvidia
Sometimes you just see something so fricking stupid that you're at a loss of words on how to express your feelings on it
>currently there's a watch party going on for Morbius
>all of this
shit, man, it's just like when I joined some blockchain projects a few years ago. It's all this much bullshit all the time
So is any of this serious or is the pitch itself just a means of generating revenue that they can rugpull after a bunch of morons jump on with funding?
Why do most people buy NFTs anyway? They don't seem to be able to turn a profit often enough to be worth the investment. Then again, I am moronic so perhaps I am wrong.
1) buy
2) tweet that you bought
3) sell to your fans
because they want to make money and hopefully sell their NFT to an even bigger idiot
but you might. and what then? you dont want to make free money? you will miss out big time! please this potato is burning my hands take it away from me
Because capitalism has so utterly destroyed the minds of the masses that people honestly think winning the lottery is a better chance at upward mobility than working a job their whole lives, and the sad thing is they aren't even wrong.
no.crypto and nft were created beause banks screwed people over. and they are mad not that they got screwed over but they werent the ones screwing people
Greed, it's a tale as old as time. It's pretty interesting watching all these people who made it big when bitcoin blew up a couple of years to attempt to consolidate all their power into a few platforms so they can control the market for themselves. People always b***h about muh israelites and muh globomo but we're literally seeing a new globohomosexual trying to establish itself through web3
>new
its the same people they already got the money that they are investing in people running those scams
its the same scam by the same people but instead in banks they are doing it on blockchain
Any video game that allows direct exchange with irl money will inevitably be a grinding simulator as 3rd world sweatshops will determine where the bottom is.
You will have the choice of effectively working another job for $1/hr, or constantly paying money to progress.
LOL yeah bro Stadia was REALLY taking off around the time of the OUYA disaster
Jesus Christ. It's so embarrassing reading shit from these NFT people who don't actually understand or respect games.
>5% drop rate
>only 4 in existence
could they make it any more obvious that they don't play games
I worked for two crypto/blockchain apps.
I give zero fricks about those people nowadays, so just gonna tell you people how it is from the inside.
First App: Think Uber Eats meets Groupon but also with a social feed.
Now, here are the questions I asked these guys, which they couldn't answer despite this having over 10 Million dollars in funding already
>Who is this for
People that want to get coupons, money and rewards for their reviews and opinions and small business owners that want to drive more traffic to their businesses
>So this is for small business owners that are not tech-savyy enough to use Facebook Ads but they will use this app? Why?
Because this will bring them more users
>Facebook already does this, why would they do this? And why would people leave groupon and uber eats? Microsoft and Google already give you rewards for your opinion
Then the guy got mad because I obviously didn't understand him and his vision. I still took his money, it was a failed project from the beginning.
Then I met other people wanting to create a web3 game.
I told them we should focus first on making it fun, because the gameplay loop has to be incredibly addicting/rewarding for people to stop playing mainstream games
>That's not needed, we just need to get the tokenomics first
>The gameplay part will come later, we just need to get the tokenomics in good enough shape so we can present this to potential investors and backers.
So yeah, most people that want to make a Web3 app are in it just for the quick buck, like with the dead ICOs, there's really not many projects wanting to make something good, it's mostly scammers like this Polium shit.
>The gameplay part will come later, we just need to get the tokenomics
This attitude is extremely obviously present in all crypto games thus far, and it is why they will never take off until they realize that mistake.
gaming from 2005-2015 almost exclusively revolved around being able to sell trailers and screenshots. Notice how AAA companies didn't give a shit about 60fps until YouTube decided to start supporting it, crazy how that works.
>This attitude is extremely obviously present in all crypto games thus far, and it is why they will never take off until they realize that mistake.
We had 3 actual, real game developers in the team. I was talking a lot to them because all four of us wanted to create a great concept revolving around bounty hunting and space pirates. Something that would be extremely easy to write a story about and also to market to teenagers.
But no, the people that created the team wanted us to work on how to make the money concept sound so good, every investor would throw $10M just to be early in the game.
I always wanted to join an actual good team of blockchain devs, but there's not many, and those that go to meetups or gatherings are the bullshitters.
really makes you think
>something else failed because of a failure
Does it occur to them there just might not be an actual market for this shit?
Still amazes me that they okayed that Ouya ad with the braindead COD gamer deciding on getting an Ouya after smashing his own brain out and dissolving into a sea of puke.
Wait what?
What the frick
I seriously dont understand what problem the OUYA was meant to solve.
What the frick
>Ouya failed because Trump was elected
>Ouya failed because of covid
>Ouya failed because the PS5 and Xbox Series took all it's shine
>Outa failed because of the Switch
You try it, anon! Here!
Wow that's just
Well then
>Ouya failed because you touch yourself at night
>Ouya failed because it didn't have DOOM
The entire cryptoecosystem is on the verge of collapse and you morons are cheering it on because you think it will mean GPUs for your moronic bing bang wahoo manchildren games will be cheaper.
Billions of dollars are at stake here.
>Billions of dollars (printed out of nothing) are at stake here.
Who cares?
The quints have spoken.
>Godly quints confirming the truth.
based sam and max enjoyer
You know it, Gankerrother.
i know this is bait, but news flash: literally no one cares.
But none of it is my billions
>throws all money in to Beaniebabies
>turns out it was a fad and people stop caring
>get upset when you are a bag holder
You should have seen it coming.
>numbers going up and up and up
>normies are hearing about the money that can be made
>corporations/banks/governments start to get involved
MAGICALLY as soon as that happens it started to crash. Surely a coincidence
Everyone knows. It's a good thing.
None of those dollars belong to any industry that produces anything of real world value, so I'm quite happy about it disappearing. If it were up to me, I'd clamp down on the stock market too, because most trades these days are predicated on hype and growth potential in the short term rather than actual capability for a company to produce anything of value. Everyone just hopes they don't end up being the bag holder. Venture capitalism is cancer.
no i'm cheering it on because it's funny to see morons get their comeuppance
it would be nice if it made prices better though
>and you morons are cheering it on because you think it will mean GPUs for your moronic bing bang wahoo manchildren games will be cheaper.
That's where you get it wrong, I cheer it cause it makes all cryptoBlack folk seethe like no tomorrow.
It's never been about watching the world burn, it's ALWAYS been about watching (YOU) burn specifically, even if the world burns alongside you
80% of which is VC bros and celebrities. The other 20% I do feel bad for somewhat but it’s also on them a bit for being so easily exploited.
Good, burn it with fire.
This just proves these people have no fricking idea what they are speaking of.
Ouya died because it was a shitty mobile game steaming box. No one wants to play Mobile games on their TV.
Stadia died because the whole concept was moronic from day 1.
If you want to compete with the consoles you are gonna NEED to actually compete. That means hardware that can run all the modern releases, so you can get games that normies actually want to play on the console. That means a network that is stable and has a bunch of features people want.
Every single NFT game I've seen ranges from a 00s flash game to modern phone games. Aka absolute shit.
These people aren’t passionate about games and are just doing this for money, right? I feel bad sometimes for people trying to try new things but get raked over the coals before they even get their shot. Its just some corp with money hiring people to make something for them right? Not a small team of passionate people with a vision, I hope.
>NFTs are just blockchain receipts that allow you to attach "X now owns Y" as a little note to a transaction
>Swindlers take this away and run with it
>People actually get tricked into thinking intangible products are the future
>Everyone rushes to create some new thing to take advantage for the demand for fake bullshit
>Crusty jpegs, hologram shoes, a 3D model of real estate, roblox skins, etc. all become real things that actual people are expected to pay money for
>NFTs start infecting everything
>This leads tech illiterate normals think NFTs are some magical plug-n-play virtual reality fun token that acts as a universal store of value for every virtual ecosystem but also in real ones somehow
im in pain
>people that shill NFTs/METAverse keep comparing it to Ready Player One constantly
>Get angry when normies who don't know shit about tech outside of pop culture shit, think NFTs/Metaverse is gonna be a Magical VR world that allows you to remake the Ultimate Showdown( of Ultimate Destiny)
If there is anyone at fault it's the cryptoshills trying to promise the moon.
no anon its way worse
think of it as a container in a blockchain that can contain anything
>small picture
>link to a picture
>some words
>your medical records
>some program that mints nfts
>some program that authorizes transactions in zero trust enviroment
>your driving license details
>a video game that cant be patched because you cant change the blockchain you can only add to it
>a virus that steals all your data
and all of that can be "sold"
but not for real money but for a money you get by spending real money. and i controll that fake money. and you cant actually buy stuff for it. its only value is a speculation value. you are hoping that someone will buy that fake money for more than you paid for. and there are no infinite amount of people on earth having infinite amount of money. bubble will have to burst eventually. oh yeah its all just an excuse to buy crypto because none of that shit works without it.
>can contain anything
>once it's on there, it's on there forever
how have people *not* abused this more
seriously dude write Black person on the blockchain I'll buy that
>>once it's on there, it's on there forever
except that if you have power and money you can convince people that that shit doesnt count and you can create a fork
I'm going to sell "N-word" passes as NFTs. I'll make millions.
this is basically the concept of NFTs as a whole
>explain how you sell n-word passes validated via blockchain
>"but how are those n-word passes used?"
>well you see developers of communities just need to integrate our blockchain protocol into their community to validate when one of their users use our n-word passes
They do, if your pc contains the blockchain it likely contains illegal images.
why do people still keep pushing and trying this shit
if you want to make a successful videogame system starter kit:
>make a device on par with the r&d of the brands sony, microsoft and nintendo (this, you cannot do unless you are a brand like apple or ibm or some shit)
>develop not only a good console, but a good controller (seems so obvious but all non main brands suck ass with controllers, and even the big ones make failures)
>now you need a deep connection with developers that have access to your dev kits and the promise (money) to spend their valuable limited time on making a game for your shitty console (very hard, takes years of building a relationship or alternatively huge money incentives)
>now you need games, because no matter what the frick you produce, why would anyone buy your shit over a ps5?
>if you are going the mobile game route, why the frick are you competing with the app store and iphones/ipads? do you honestly think you can corner that market?
conclusion:
>if you are thinking of making a new console, dont
>if you are entering the mobile space, then just make a device that any android or ios device connects to wirelessly to mirror your image without latency to your tv and the phone remains the controller
fricking idiots,
remember how little trust there was when microsoft entered the console space? fricking microsoft has more money than you do
its like people just want to fail
(or alternatively get money from investors and then jump ship)
gay
>Stadia
or as I like to call it, Ouya 2
stadia also failed though, what's their excuse for this?
Is beating these type of people to an inch of their life the only way they will stop?
You don't even have to do anything, just laugh as everything crashes and burns around them and they lose everything.
Too bad that i cant seem to find any failure stories since all crypto gays seem to circlejerk pity each other and keep huffing that copium instead of rolling over and dying
Yes
so can someone explain in simple english what these people think they're bringing to the table because this all sounds like latin
it ultimately amounts to scam scam scammady scam, but i don't even get their baseline
the concept is the same as when reddit jerks off about a vague idea or concept
"pokemon mmo" etc
>Web 3
thing that will never happen
>Web 2 will never happen, people will never give away all their personal data to social media companies so they can get targeted by personalized ads 24/7
Web 2 had Twitter and Facebook. Tools which forced the user to engage in that type of unsavory shit but which were so useful and popular that people held their breath and dove in anyway. What does Web 3 have? What’s the thing that’ll make me go “FRICK I GOTTA HAVE THAT”
https://future.com/why-web3-matters/
Basically its about moving away from centralization and also giving people a chance to make money in an economy which is increasingly shitting the bed. You have people doing Uber and Doordash in the US but in third world countries people make 25% of their monthly income by just walking around for minutes a day with an app like Stepn that pays you to exercise. imagine more people making money just sitting at home without having to work three or four side jobs. Hell, my job is as easy as it gets and is a 1000x less stressful than when I worked in retail.
These homosexual spreadsheet jockeys don't know shit about video games.
Only phone games
>Ouya failed because of something that didn't exist
These people can vote
After detailed overview I say kill it with fire
Just don't click on it's controller
joined the discord and first thing i see is the sypro subway image and a pig taking a shit, 10/10
The Kotaku article is pretty merciless toward this piece of shit.
Anyone with a brain is merciless towards this piece of shit. Broken clock is right twice a day. I'd imagine the Kotaku article includes a bunch of shitting on cryptocurrency and possibly capitalism in general on top of pointing out that this is garbage.
anyone with a brain would shit on crypto as well. However they only speak of the crypto delusion (which isn't completely devoid of sense) , capitalism not really. mostly web 3.0
>anyone with a brain would shit on crypto as well
Obviously there's plenty to shit on there, but the people who write for sites like Kotaku are going to take it to an insane degree.
So these boxes gonna host cryptonodes or what? Who wants to host everyone's basedskins and other shit for free?
Why the frick are you buttholes so entitled? Why do you think a console needs games? Being part of a community, no, a movement, is more important than whatever menial satisfaction you get from a mere game. Step back from your petty needs and realize this is no mere console, it is a way of life.
masterpiece, really looks like something a cryptobro on twitter would write
Who cares. This is a SCAM.
The console doesn't exist past a concept image.
It's Vaporware.
my favorite thread gimmick on this site has always been someone pretending they actually work in any sort of official capacity for well, anything even remotely relevan to the industry
this reminds me of the schoolyard rumors about the 64dd, and about how you'd be able to play as donkey kong or kirby in goldeneye with it
i just hope they'll sell the console at a loss so i can pick up and flash an emulation machine for even cheaper than usual
back when the ds was first coming out i thought it would play GC games somehow
the switch sort of eventually did that I guess, with the portable console games
>I'll get it for an emulation machine!
>It has shit hardware from like 5 years ago in it
>can barely run SNES games
I already see it now.
i bought a couple of ouyas on clearance and used them as media and minecraft servers
you can do a lot with shitty out of date hardware
you think they'll actually release anything?
this is 100% scam. They'll take preorders and make a bunch of money by shilling the shitcoins they invested in then dump it, claim production difficulties and lack of community support or something and laugh at the morons that trusted them all the way to the bank.
>shitcoins allow you to "raise funds" up front for a project
>no lockup period so insiders get to dump their shitcoin tokens immediately
>you delivered your returns to insiders before even starting the project, so why bother starting it?
I mean it has already happened countless times now. This is yet another stupid vaporware project designed exclusively to sell shitcoins.
nfts already existed in gaming and they were called amiibos
>now let's remove the physical figurine part and just make it "owning" data
yeah nice try
Even longer than that.
My fricking Pokemon from Gen3 is data I own. Every single game file on my various memory cards/HDDs is data that I own.
Hell, with as autistic as Pokemonfans are I'm almost positive I could sell my shiny pokemon for real money.
You'll be competitive with some Mexican with pkhex selling perfect shines on eBay for $3
true true. i only dabbled in xy, but i can see people being interested enough in a genuinely-bred shiny pokemon with the right EVs and nature to cough up some dollars for it.
You people know there are only 2 futures for shit like nft and crypto right?
>people and money gets bored of it and find some new buzzword and the wheel spins again
>this shit takes off and is integral part of your life. you need crypto to function, everything can be sold everywhere, there is no privacy as all is recorded on blockchain and can be easily traced to you either directly or indirectly.
Nfts actually do have real-world applications like ticketing, couponing, pos stuff and so on. It’s just not as “sexy” as ripping people off.
can't i just create an excel file and add "-append only" and not waste shit load of electricity to solve math problem that will be discarded because someone solved it 0,0001 sec earlier than me to get nft?
No, NFTs are not useful for those applications. The slow and decentralized nature is the opposite of what a ticketer would want in their software. Ticketmaster isn't chomping at the bit to make their service slower, more expensive, and incapable of basic error correction.
>shitcoin scam console won't fail
I've never heard of this pollium thing or web3 until this thread.
This is the same as morons who hate Kardashians, yet wouldn't stop talking about them. Free advertising.
web3 is just the catchall term for anything crypto related, it's all insanely moronic
Finally, THE Anon shows up.
>tfw Anon looks like an angrier Donald Duck
Holy KINO
>no multiple wallets or visiting multiple websites just to play a game
The frick is that supposed to mean?
Can't wait to see how spectacularly this fails.
crypto solves lot of things regarding digital items, also proposes a new way to manage them
but this hardware is dead on arrival, something that noone asked for
it's pretentious and the entire nft ecosystem is still very very new
it would need a BIG corporation like EGC or steam to start the trend
egs*
>crypto solves lot of things regarding digital items,
it solves nothing until it's recognizable in court. I've seen scams for selling actual apartments as nfts and then they pulled the rug on suckers.
>crypto solves
no
crypto only exists to sell you crypto. nothing more. you need an infinite supply of people with infinite supply of money for the line to continue going up and not just crash this shit hard.
Lines goes up doesn't matter, I can more easily move my own money, do crazy stuff like give myself loans that pay themselves off over time, and buy and sell things illegally. There are stablecoins if you're worried about things crashing. Even if it's full of scams and most of it is bullshit, it has some legitimate uses. In a world where even countries like Canada will freeze your bank account for going against the government, it's important to have options for working around that.
>stablecoins if you're worried about things crashing
are you sure about that?
Advertising is against the rules
But different opinions are not. I'm not telling anybody to buy anything specific, or buy at all.
And I'm telling you to put a shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger instead of posting again
You're abnormally angry over somebody suggesting there's some value to crypto existing. I'm not supporting NFT games or any of that BS. Do you like Canada freezing the bank accounts of protestors?
That said, NFT games are firmly in the scams and bullshit category. Maybe there's some potential for interesting games buried there, but people are interested in making things built around the most hated parts of MMOs and mobile games instead (microtransactions, grinding, etc.). It's all a cashgrab by people who don't give a shit about fun games.
One example of an interesting experiment, even though it doesn't look fun to me still
https://twitter.com/larsiusprime/status/1537181872572485632
There's more than just tether.
>Maybe there's some potential for interesting games buried there
There isn't. The nature of Blockchain limits them to tiny html games you'd remember from the mid 90's.
This, just invest in TerraUSD if you're worried about Tether, sillies.
Or USDC, or DAI, etc. There are lots of options.
>it's important to have options for working around that.
but that shit doesnt solve that
government ising seizing your account PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT ARE DOING IT AND THEY WILL DO IT ON BLOCKCHAIN ANYWAY. you cant just change the wording and pretend problem is fixed. problem wont be fixed because its HUMAN BEHAVIOUR thats the problem
>PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT ARE DOING IT AND THEY WILL DO IT ON BLOCKCHAIN ANYWAY
The point is to create a system where it's impossible for them to do that. They can't just shutdown Monero or seize your funds.
>The point is to create a system where it's impossible for them to do that.
blockchain isnt it then. because i can get shitload of coins, tell them to fork the chain or else i pull out and they will do that. see multiple fricking verisons of etherum after some fricker stole like 15% of market cap of it.
Fine and dandy let my buy 5lbs of potatoes at the grocer's with 0.0003 monero. Oh, the government outlawed use of it? How unfortunate.
Government can outlaw the use of it, but they can't stop it. You don't need to be buying groceries with Monero to make it useful.
Sure I'll just subsist on my coke diet, while driving an unregistered Tesla since I didn't buy it at a legal dealer all the while posting off satellite internet that actually accepts the shitcoin.
all that shit crypto promises regarding handling of digital item you could already do if you wanted to.
>crypto solves lot of things regarding digital items
Literally give an example that doesn't begin with "someday...."
>crypto solves lot of things regarding digital items
Name one.
Crypto solves nothing regarding digital items. We already have technology and entire frameworks built to quickly and efficiently integrate systems between separate companies and even ways for companies to open their systems to the public with granular access privileges to prevent abuse.
I don’t even know why people thought that having a fricking asset market place in VIDEO GAMES is a fun idea for the consumer.
Don't you want to be a hustler? How foolish in modern economy.
Yeah, go scam people in games with actual market places like those shitty MMO’s. Leave actual video games alone.
Bold of you to assume the consumer's enjoyment of the product is something that they even have the capability to contemplate.
Anybody that spewed the usual “owning your own assets” made me roll my eyeballs a little too much.
Do cryptogays even run nodes of currencies they use?
I'm fairly certain cryptogays have no clue how cryptocurrencies work, or why they were designed as they were.
Emojis are cringe.
cannot wait to see it
>brand account that has to use trailing underscores because they can't buy their already taken name
>NFT console
What a world
why are zoomers going to watch the new minions movie in masse?
When I saw Elvis there were a bunch of guys in suits taking photos next to the Minions poster. I was wondering what the frick that was about.
>Elvis
It was a family outing, I didn't have a choice.
>Yea bro, you see this Vorelion? Nintendo is gonna take the time to model and animate this character so I can play it in Smash, Then when I'm done I'm gonna log in to World of Warcraft and use my VoreLion and who is Equipped with the Keyblade NFT while I do the Omnislash NFT of Ragnaros 6.0. Once I get my Loot off him I can use the Legs of Ragnaros mount that dropped in FF14, that my VoreLion is also in and fully animated/modeled/voiced.
Some dude is fricking viral marketing this console here and keeps posting about it. It's really obvious.
it's honestly funny because with how vitriolic to literally everything people are here if you get a legitimate full on shill they have to go into overdrive dealing with not only the people asking ""legitimate"" questions but also the random shitposters
it's hilarious
In order for NFTs to have real world use, they must be backed and recognized by a central authority (govt, game company, whatever) because they are just data. Data doesn't do anything itself. Specifically it's verification data, saying effectively "user 0934582034 """"owns"""" this rare pepe".
Verification is only relevant when someone with power acts on it (for example, SINs are only meaningful because the govt recognises them)
So you need a central authority to enforce the concept of "ownership" which NFTs promise.
But by introducing a central autority, you have elimitated the ONE REASON THEY EXIST. DECENTRALIZATION.
If you have a central authority, why the frick would they ever want to make things more complicated with a "decentralized" verification method instead of using a centralized one like they have since the early 2000s? TF2 and thousands of other games did this without blockchain.
The only puprose NFTs are supposed to serve is decentralized verification, but for them to be used for something you have to undermine their only purpose. It's moronic.
The only reason cryptocurrencies (sort of) work (as poorly as they do), is because the backing force is anyone who is willing to accept the currency as payment, and so no central authority is needed. But if you want to use NFTs for tickets, deeds, game items, etc, the central authority is inherent to that space, and so NFTs have no purpose there.
I hate this moronic shit so much
>The only puprose NFTs are supposed to serve is decentralized verification, but for them to be used for something you have to undermine their only purpose. It's moronic.
That's only because it became a hot investment scam. Blockchain has one real practical use and it's pseudo-anonymous messaging.
The fricking audacity. Not only are they using some bootleg version of Gamecube Logo, they assume another fricking Store client is going to make their system sell.
I did not even notice the knock off GC label.
It's gotten to the point where I wonder if this is not all a joke. Are there actual preorders/crowd funding for this thing yet?
Or is it just a twitter post?
Is NFTshit actually the future or is this all going to collapse?
both
nfts died like 4 months ago but companies are moronic and slow moving
crypto in general is (hopefully) dying but it's certainly collapsing for the moment
What the frick? Didn't Ouya fail years before Stadia? And didn't Stadia fail even worse?
Op is a shill btw.
>Ganker is suddenly filled with Biden-loving libtards shitting on crypto
What the FRICK happened to this board?
I myself made 40 grand on dogecoin, the only people hating crypto are leftoids that hate people making money.
>I myself made 40 grand on dogecoin
congratulations. would you put the 40 grand you got back into it if it didnt collapse?
why not? you only got 40 grand. you could get 400 grand. do you have paper hands and dont want to go to the moon? its literally free money making scheme. it only needs infinite supply of people with money to buy for even higher price
A fish choosing stocks at random outcompeted wallstreetbets by an enormous margin.
It also beat the nasdaq by a few points
This reverse psychology shit isn't working, my man.
their favorite streamers told them crypto is le bad
Eh, I can understand hating crypto because of all the scams and general bullshit. Leftists like
hate the very concept of it though because they can't stand the idea of individual freedom and people controlling their own money.
>I like the idea of you slipping and falling into a comically sized blender set to frappe'
You're free to fantasize all you want.
>people controlling their own money.
the whole point of money is that individuals can't control it
That's a weird opinion.
at the small scale, you don't want a person to control the value of their own currency, they have to adhere to somewhat naturalistic laws of suply and demand, and at the large scale, One dude controlling a shit ton of "the money" has monopolistic influence over the rest of the market which is also not ideal.
Ok, but you're talking about something very different. I'm talking about people being able to move their wealth freely for example. As opposed to the government freezing their accounts or taking the money away if they don't spend it fast enough.
>What if Canada sizes my assets!?
Sounds like you just really wish you were a drug lord instead of a pasty b***h boy and all this crypto stuff is just an extension of that fantasy.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60383385
It's already happening for people protesting, not just drug dealers.
>pasty b***h boy
Your language shows the type of person you are, go back to twitter
Oh, I see, my mistake
You don't wish you were a drug lord, you wish you were a terrorist
Have you considered taking the bleach challenge? Try it! All you have to do is chug bleach. You don't even need a camera!
It's just outsourcing instability to even more unstable tenders. Though i guess losing 50% of your money is better than 100%, but at least they can try and sue for that. No such chance with crypto.
NTA, but Canada froze bank accounts of people donating to the freedom convoy a couple months back. Not even for participating, but just donating, to a protest. Honestly that shit is terryfing.
I don't really think crypto is the solution to such threats, (people treating it as a speculative stock market undermines its use as currency), but it would be nice if there was one
>Canada froze the accounts of people donating to domestic terrorists temporarily
So?
Okay so you're a troll
Yeah, exactly. Crypto is far from perfect in its current form, but already has some utility for working around things like that (however imperfectly).
>terrorist
Such as easy to abuse term. Keep fantasizing about me dying, fantasizing is all you can do.
>Nuh uh they weren't!
Just because they were shitty terrorists that accomplished nothing doesn't mean they face no consequences.
You're just roundabout advocating for criminal organizations.
I don't trust the government to decide certain citizens are terrorists and strip them of their rights. Freezing the bank accounts of people who donated to a protest is insane.
>instead I'll trust noname special interest groups that control all the money anyway
What? No, I just don't want the government freezing the bank accounts of protestors or people donating to them. This isn't an absurd opinion and has nothing to do with your greentext.
Not wanting the government or banks to be able to freeze accounts suspected of criminal activity is a pretty moronic take.
You don't think Canada overstepped? Either way - it's a use for cryptocurrency we can agree on. Whether you like the use or not.
Why all pro crypto takes are either pro crime or pro scams?
Because crime and scams and revolution are the only real applications for Blockchain as those are actual zero trust environments
Yes, we agree, crypto is useful for crime. Take a load aspirin.
It's spelt "lead."
>I don't trust the government or the banks
Then move to another country you do trust, homosexual.
>Preventing assets from flowing to terrorists is insane
You're moronic.
>Then move to another country you do trust, homosexual.
More and more countries are turning authoritarian. Eventually you're going to run out of places to run.
>Preventing assets from flowing to terrorists is insane
Protestors, not terrorists. You should be able to see why labeling people terrorists so you can take away their rights is bad. Maybe you can't. Either you're a troll or genuinely moronic.
Terrorists, not protestors. You should be able to see why labeling people protestors so you can get away with their crimes is bad. Maybe you can't. Either you're a troll or genuinely moronic.
Thanks for giving up.
>I don't trust ANY countries!
Then go live in a ditch and stop using public services and property you ancap dunce.
>They weren't terrorists!
They were.
>The government and banks shouldn't have the tools needed to prevent major crimes because I don't trust them!
Fricking idiot.
They weren't, and yes I don't trust any country to avoid becoming authoritarian in the future and I'd like there to be methods of circumventing potential authoritarian abuses of people's rights. Are you for internet censorship too?
>Nuh uh! They were just using threats and violence to cause a political outcome!
That's terrorism.
>You're right, I don't trust any government!
Then frick off already you hypocritical coward.
>I want there to be was of circumventing abuses of power
Read: I want there to be ways for drug dealers and terrorists to avoid losing their assets
You're a joke going I circles at this point, kid. The thread's over and everyone can see that you're moronic. It's time to stop posting.
I think everybody reading can see you're wrong. Fun thread, enjoy the rest of your day.
Good luck voting for change in China
Lmao
>what about x
Double lmao
There's no "what about," we're talking about countries in general rather than specific countries. Voting isn't always an option or the solution.
Are the people protesting the Roe v Wade decision now terrorists? I see a lot of threats of violence.
Were the BLM protestors "terrorists?"
The method is called "voting".
>b-but the majority disagrees with me
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you're actually wrong?
Leaving out the question of where the frick do you live that this is a genuine concern, I hope you do realize that the way the NFT community deals with scams is by blacklisting the stolen NFTs in question such that every marketplace will refuse to trade it, so there exists a precedent within the crypto community of freezing someone's assets. What's even better, because of the open ledger if anyone does dare accept to trade with a blacklisted wallet the government would know immediately.
>People don't like obvious scams because they hate freedom and opportunity!
Does anyone ever actually fall for this line, or do you not know because you wouldn't dare promote crypto in person?
Maybe you should learn how to read. I'm saying cryptocurrency isn't 100% scams (or even if you believe it is currently, it's not inherently a scam). I'm not supporting the scams at all.
>do you not know because you wouldn't dare promote crypto in person?
Who says I don't?
>I'm not supporting crypto but golly gee you could sure make some money! 😉
See
. I'm not saying to buy cryptocurrency. I'm saying it's not fundamentally useless.
>I'm saying it's not fundamentally useless
It is.
No it's not
Ganker always hated crypto because it hard cucked the graphics card market.
Bernie Madoff made people money, too.
Bernie Madoff was a good guy.
Crypto has lost all it's fricking purpose. It was supposed to be a decentralized currency but now it's just controlled by exchanges.
>It was supposed to be a decentralized currency
no
it was always ment to make money for the creatiors.
if you made some cryptocurrency so successful that its adopted world wide then congratulations your "decentralized" currency just centralized worth of everything in one place.
what decentralized means is decentralized storage with centralized components.
>Web 3 gays still haven't killed themselves yet.
How much punishment can they take?!
>play to earn!
Blizzard tried that with Diablo 3 at launch.
It did so poorly that the franchise literally never recovered. Because as it turns out the designed the game around the idea of getting people to interact with the Real Money Auction House. So even getting basic equipment that your character could even use was a fricking nightmare. I remember the first time I played though it as my Witch Doctor. I ended up getting to the second to last area in the game before I got rid of my final white item, most of my gear was 20-30 levels behind either way, but hey atleast they had stats i could use on them...and you know, actually even equip it.
yes
I barely remember stadia
wtf is ouya?
ouya, the original /r/gaming kickstarter moment
please do not actually buy an ouya
>Polonium 1
>Web 3
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I'll just make my own currency
With blackjack! And hookers!