>Crypto exists entirely just to scam and rugpull people at this point >People point out that they don't want that shit. >YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAAND!!!!
Hope this shit gets outlawed.
this is the thing that really gets me, commissioned art was literally THE way to hide your money from the gubment. It's a unique token that CANNOT be replicated and since its art, you can't be accused of inflating the price since its subjective. You can lend it out all over the place and still be the "real" owner and make money off the thing, hell if you had a good enough gallery just OWNING the thing could earn you money. ANd if you ever felt like you need money you'd sell it. Or if you just wanted to be a rascal you could "sell" it to get around taxes while you secretly pay for other shit. Like, this shit is down to a science. The frick do you need NFTs for? Art by its very nature is one of a kind, and costs like a tenth of the price to get something way better looking.
They always were
Of all crypto users, 0.1% have NFTs
Of that 0.1%, less than 10% hold 80% of all wealth in NFTs
Anyone trying to shill you an NFT is either one of that incredibly tiny amount of people and are doing so purely to increase their own profits, or are utterly clueless and have fallen for the hype.
The difference being that fiat currency has a much larger foundation of people using it than NFT's do. The former has the backing of everyone living in and/or trading with that country that makes it, and the latter is backed merely by the group of people who hold them, which, with most collections, couldn't fill most sportsball stadiums.
NFT games sound interesting, but I've yet to see a fully implemented game with them yet...
Fiat currency had a large user base that is backed by many people with guns
A jpeg of a monkey is backed by some jackass on Twitter saying "just trust me bro"
If you can't understand the difference you shouldn't be trusted with any form of currency
If someone tells you that NFTs are worth something, it's because they want to sell you one for as much as they're claiming it's worth.
Ponzi schemes all go belly up eventually.
they never had any worth, every project is just "number go up, bro" along with some vague promises that they're going to turn it into a video game or metaverse or some shit when it gets big because that's what gets zoomzooms excited to go all in on the latest ponzi schemes
Most people don't understand crypto, even Ganker anon. NFTs aren't exclusively jpegs of cartoons etc. That's just the start. You're going to see NFTs change all sorts of things. It will be big in the music industry, you can own the rights to music as NFTs, other forms of art also; it will be big in engineering and patent industry; it will even eventually take off in real estate.
Crypto has crashed right now, but these are the times when people buy. You buy even everyone is convinced it's dead and gone, and then sell when all the normies are obsessed with it again and are trying to tell their family/friends about it. This happens every time and anon still haven't worked it out. I'm not saying to invest right now - I don't think this is the bottom, even if you were interested, and it might range low for a couple years more - I'm just highlighting how clueless most people (even Extremely Online Ganker anon) know about this topic.
Again, you need to mentally separate what an actual NFT is from cartoon jpegs. An NFT is private rights that you can sell/trade/loan. It can be for all sorts of things, not just cartoons. You still aren't seeing the big picture.
>An NFT is private rights that you can sell/trade/loan
b***h please. Not even referring to the monkey shit, nfts dont give you copyright or ownership. you literally buy a hyperlink and can get sued by the actual artist if you try to do anything with their work
I know what an NFT is anon. What you're failing to convey is why anyone would want to use them
As a music artist why would I want to sell my music as an NFT?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not talking about cartoons anon, I'm simply saying that NFTs will be big in the future in iterations that might surprise you. Disregard me iyw.
Yes. NFTs are essentially nothing. You don't own shit. You own a receipt that grants you certain license/rights to something, but you know what else already does that with fewer hurdles? An entry on a fricking database. And don't let the people telling you that you can sell it trade NFTs or that they can be used across multiple different games/systems fool you because that can already happen now with what we already have. The only thing limiting it are the companies who made these digital goods in the first place choosing not to allow it and guess what, they can do so with NFTs as well. Also, those receipts are currently unregulated and have no legal precedent to support them so they can be easily stolen or have their smart contracts breached and there's not a damn thing the law can do to help. In fact, implementing those regulations would completely strip away the supposed "benefit" that they aren't regulated so that's one more defending argument dead in the water. They are nothing. They are a joke. They are a scam.
>You own a receipt that grants you certain license/rights to something
If you can't see all the myriad applications for something like this then lol. >but you know what else already does that with fewer hurdles? An entry on a fricking database.
But this lets you sell/loan instantly with no middle man. Imagine not being able to see the use in that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If you can't see all the myriad applications for something like this then lol
oh, you mean like actual ip theft and scamming? there's a reason you ignored
>An NFT is private rights that you can sell/trade/loan
b***h please. Not even referring to the monkey shit, nfts dont give you copyright or ownership. you literally buy a hyperlink and can get sued by the actual artist if you try to do anything with their work
2 years ago
Anonymous
>But this lets you sell/loan instantly with no middle man. Imagine not being able to see the use in that
The nft itself, yes. But any value tied to it is almost always off chain so various restrictions can be put on its use and trade. If you have a tradeable videogame item tied to an nft then the off-chain game servers are what really control the item. The devs can "burn" any nft that was traded without their approval or without giving them a cut through their store by simply removing any in-game representation of the item tied to that nft. You stilll have ypur nft and can trade it but any value it had as an ingame item is gone.
here's a question, why would patent offices and realestate companies switch to NFTs instead of just using their current contracts and digital databases that already work fine. what utility do NFTs actually add that these companies would want?
That's a fair question, and I'm not about to claim that I have all the answers -- I don't. I'm only saying that the anon who stamp their feet and insist that NFTs are all done and dusted are wrong. The transactional use of NFTs is only beginning. This is all I'm trying to say, and it makes most anon absolutely pissed to hear it for some reason.
>If you can't see all the myriad applications for something like this then lol
oh, you mean like actual ip theft and scamming? there's a reason you ignored [...]
Anon there is theft and scamming in literally every avenue in life where there'd profit to be made. You really think that stops emergent industries if they're of use in other ways? You could say usury itself is a form of theft. Your whole reasoning is clouded by your personal dislike of this shit, which is fine, but at least admit you're biased instead of playing some arbiter of rationality.
Migrating existing patenting and license systems from their current forms to NFTs is ultimately pointless since it offers no real advantages other than giving the kind of people who jerk off over the blockchain hardons.
>there is theft and scamming in literally every avenue in life where there'd profit to be made
aww, how cute. so tell me again, what am I getting when I buy a nft? Not copyright, not usage permissions, not official ip ownership
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're getting a meme commodity that has perceived value to moron willing to buy from people like the guy you're responding that try to argue their way into a sell, literally the entire thing is a scam
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're getting a meme commodity that has perceived value to moron willing to buy from people like the guy you're responding that try to argue their way into a sell, literally the entire thing is a scam
t. future lifelong house renters
Get rekt & kek'd, pseuds.
2 years ago
Anonymous
NFTards are the ones who think buying rare pepes is a better investment than land. Try again
2 years ago
Anonymous
good luck trying to dump your nft's bro im sure there's morons out there willing to buy
>he thinks I'm still bag holding >he doesn't know about the stables I now have sidelined ready to deploy
There's so much you don't understand, but I'm fine with you two smug idiots leaving easy money on the table.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>all this seethe because he couldnt answer a simple question
lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
I've been humble about the limits of my knowledge this whole time.
That's a fair question, and I'm not about to claim that I have all the answers -- I don't. I'm only saying that the anon who stamp their feet and insist that NFTs are all done and dusted are wrong. The transactional use of NFTs is only beginning. This is all I'm trying to say, and it makes most anon absolutely pissed to hear it for some reason.
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Anon there is theft and scamming in literally every avenue in life where there'd profit to be made. You really think that stops emergent industries if they're of use in other ways? You could say usury itself is a form of theft. Your whole reasoning is clouded by your personal dislike of this shit, which is fine, but at least admit you're biased instead of playing some arbiter of rationality.
>I'm not about to claim that I have all the answers -- I don't.
But it's always the poor smug pseuds who insist that they know better.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Buy NFTs, they're the future! >what am I getting when I buy a nft? >REEEEEEEE YOU CANT EXPECT ME.TO KNOW EVERYTHING!!!!
top kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
Something tangible (1% of nft's if that) is getting access to a club of richgays only, the moment richgays frick off the value of the entry token is worthless
2 years ago
Anonymous
NFT user experience now is like 28k consumer modems back in the day. Could you expect a retail pleb back then to be able to rattle off all the things that were going to be possible with the net just two decades later? I don't know how this will evolve or what it will look like, but it's here to stay in some form. That's all I'm saying. You can be as incredulous as you want, I truly don't care.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're not being asked to name every possible use, just a single practical thing you can do with nfts that is not possible with current technology.
At this point you're saying you're sure it will blow up but have no idea what the frick people are going to do with it. Then what makes you so sure it will blow up?
2 years ago
Anonymous
because then he'll be rich because he's so smart
are you even paying attention?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not a fan of current "cartoon" NFTs, if that's what you're assuming. I never implied as much. I'm saying to those anon who think NFTs are a fad and dead now, that they are mistaken. But many of these anon also conflate the transactional use of an NFT with cartoons thingamajigs, & consider them one and the same. Not true. >At this point you're saying you're sure it will blow up but have no idea what the frick people are going to do with it.
Kind of, yeah. And you're saying you're sure it's dead. We both have our own wager on it. And for the record just because NFTs might survive in other forms later doesn't necessarily mean that I'll view them as a good investment opportunity. One of the main reasons for cartoon NFTs soaring was all the fed funny money being printed.
>Could you expect a retail pleb back then to be able to rattle off all the things that were going to be possible with the net just two decades later?
No, but I would expect him to know what the internet is and how it could be used at the moment. Which is what you're failing at right now.
But please, keep raging. Seeing you snake oil salesmen seethe never gets old
>But please, keep raging. Seeing you snake oil salesmen seethe never gets old
I'm not raging. I've actually been more self-aware and accountable in my knowledge limitations that you have, anon. And I'm not opposed to selling some snake oil, if it means I can pay for my retirement and my parents retirement. Many men in this age are weak and afraid of doing what they must for their own. I will jump into ponzi after ponzi for me & mine.
>I don't know how this will evolve or what it will look like, but it's here to stay in some form >t. doesnt even know WHAT it is
fools and their money are soon parted, as they say.
Fools and their money are soon parted, and chads sell the top and have stables ready to buy cheap wins. Problem?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you guys only say NFTs are used to trade cartoon apes but theres so much more >then name it
You still have yet to give an example of a practical use, either stop trying to weasel out of it or give up you fricking rat
2 years ago
Anonymous
NFTs right now don't have a lot of practical use; they're like moronic nerd israeliteelry. But I wager that they'll have multiple uses later on. What they'll be? I don't know. If that's not a good enough answer for you, that is not my problem.
>admits to being a moronic scammer
how adorable. good luck peddling your bags lmao
Kek anon I've already sold my bags. I'm holding USDC now, waiting to buy back when things are cheaper. Instead of pretending you know it all you could humble yourself and try to learn how to navigate this shit. Maybe you hate it, cool, but you hate your job too right? At least this way you might actually be able to afford a house for yourself at some point.
2 years ago
Anonymous
NFT lets you do the same thing as the TF2 item server but a million times more expensive and impossible to admin. It's the future! Invest your life savings now!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>admits to being a moronic scammer
how adorable. good luck peddling your bags lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Could you expect a retail pleb back then to be able to rattle off all the things that were going to be possible with the net just two decades later?
No, but I would expect him to know what the internet is and how it could be used at the moment. Which is what you're failing at right now.
But please, keep raging. Seeing you snake oil salesmen seethe never gets old
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't know how this will evolve or what it will look like, but it's here to stay in some form >t. doesnt even know WHAT it is
fools and their money are soon parted, as they say.
2 years ago
Anonymous
good luck trying to dump your nft's bro im sure there's morons out there willing to buy
2 years ago
Anonymous
In the future all your gacha 5star waifus will be nft's and there's nothing any of us can do to stop it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not my problem, only dumbasses play gacha
2 years ago
Anonymous
It is going to be your problem as publishers keep trying to push gacha shit further into single player games
Also you're describing the same paypigs dumb enough to buy nft's
2 years ago
Anonymous
yea and I shit on gachatards too. Seeing them rage when Dragalia Lost announced EoS was especially cathartic, just like seeing NFTards seethe when Ubi pulled the rug
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yep, and now imagine gachatards being able to buy and sell their waifus like some weird slave market, we haven't even gotten close to peak degenerate, someone is absolutely gonna spend 7 figures on a "blockchain rarity guaranteed one of a kind" gacha waifu for whatever game becomes popular first and normies will flood in like clockwork
>NFTs aren't exclusively jpegs of cartoons etc
NFTs have literally nothing to do with jpgs. An NFT is just a non-fungible token with some room for text in the middle. You aren't selling art, you aren't selling music, you're selling a unique token with a post-it attached.
They have no intrinsic value and are purchased as either a novelty, a status symbol, or as a speculative commodity.
If someone wants an NFT for novelty he'll pay as much as you'd expect for a mediocre picture.
Anyone who would purchase an expensive NFT as a status symbol already has one and they're going (more like have gone) out of fashion.
All that's left is scammers who will try to offload their collection onto morons into buying it on the basis "it'll surely increase in value" (it won't)
The artistic content, which yes is subjective, but its real. AI generated art is literally, by any and all definitions, worthless even in a subjective point of view. I can happily sit on a copy of a game till I die because I like playing it. Aint a homie on earth that is happy looking at, listening to, or otherwise "experiencing" their NFT
>"muh intrinsic valu, you are losing money by not turning every single minimal and stupid aspect of your life into a literal korean mmo griding!"
I sometimes feel pathetic, but at least I'm not trying to turn every free minute of my life into digital tabletop fake money that can lose all its value in just a single fart
NFT's never had a worth.
Every fricker talking about "just screenshot the jpg lol" has no Idea what they're talking about. Not because you can't screenshot the NFT, you absolutely can, but NFT was NEVER about the JPG. (It's not even a JPG it's a link to a JPG hosted outside the blockchain because blockchain hosting is stupidly expensive because it's fricking dumb).
NFT has always been about investment scamming people. An NFT is in essence worthless. As in, there is ZERO inherent value to an NFT. Arguably there is negative value attached to it since you need electricity to view and trade it but nevermind all that.
The kicker here is: The point of the NFT, is that someone mints it, and then tells the Internet: "Hey, this NFT I've created cost you $1000 now if you buy them from me, but the supply is limited! After you buy them, you can trade them to other people for tens of thousands of dollars!". So suckers wanting to make money, buy the NFT until the supply is eaten up, and then HOPE TO GOD that despite the thing not having inherent value, someone will BUY it from them, for more than $1k.
After that, that sucker needs to find someone to sell it too for even more than that. The only thing that convinces these idiots that it has value, is that "technically" their NFT is unique. (Again, an NFT is a link to an image hosted somewhere else, nothing makes this inherently unique, another NFT could link to the same fricking image if it wanted, whoever is hosting could change the image of the NFT to some CP and then you'd own a link to some CP congratulations.) So they REALLY hope that demand for their worthless links to JPGs stays up, because if nobody buys their investment scam, if they're the last person in the line of investment scams, then they just lost that money.
That's why it's stupid when people talk about how bad NFT "Art" is, or weather or not it is a legitimate way to sell digital art. It's not about art, but about the scam.
this, i have a friend falling for these scams and he described to me this exact same process on the wax blockchain: people set up a "project" and make nft's for it that supposedly will let you interact with the project, the nft is set up so it can only be bought after a certain time so people in the discord server (usually chinks and latinos) get the link and all wait until it becomes that time to buy and instantly sell it. it gets so bad that the price drops before the initial value within a second and you have to hope you were one of the first to buy and sell the thing. it gets worse, both operations have a captcha and you are fricked without some sort of automation.
why is Ganker so averse to making money?
you missed out on bitcoin.
you missed out on chainlink.
you missed out on ethereum.
you missed out on nfts.
you really going to miss out on this too?
I never got why everyone was so against nfts in games
From what I understand it's just >play games >make money for playing them
What's wrong with that, that sounds great
>What's wrong with that, that sounds great
Yeah what's wrong with scientists inventing a button and you magically teleport to wherever you want? I don't see why people are so against this idea. It would solve so many problems. Why don't they just make it happen?
The answer is that they're promising a moronic fantasy and cannot deliver on it.
Yeah but getting that money will be the same as being a gold seller in WoW. There will be so many groups of people doing it for pennies that it will be impossible to do for a single person.
Because video games aren't meant for enjoyment and NOT a second job. A game that's designed as play to earn is a game that's not fun to play. I already work a shit job, I don't wanna work another.
You don't make money from the NFT itself. You effectively mine as you play, and the amount you make is laughable at this point even Axie which bragged about helping people make above minimum in the Philippines has lost large swaths of its player base.
There are two reasons someone would pay you to do something. The first is that they can't do it, and the second is that they don't want to do it.
Statistically, you are not in the top 0.1% of videogame players with amazing, godlike skill who can perform tasks nobody else is capable of - and if you are, that's ALREADY monetizable. That leaves "don't want to do it". If you're making money playing a game, the game is going to be repetitive grinding that people don't WANT to do for fun, because if they did, they wouldn't want to pay you to do it for them.
This isn't designed to make players money, it's designed to make investors who have no interest in the game whatsoever and just speculate on the assets other people farm and sell money.
>Turning your game-time into work.
years worth of money-making in several MMO's screams "Frick that"
If I wanted to spend all my playtime trying to game the market, I'd go back to EVE Online.
attaching an intrinsic value to a unique set of variables does sound like it would work in vidya but it has to be done right, which nobody is doing
even I don't know what "doing it right" means but I sure as frick don't want to grind candy crush for goods so I can sell the goods in elder scrolls so I can use the money to buy gear in OSRS
I don't need "money", I prefer owning things that I can enjoy and jave value for me without the endless need of being resellable. I bought land and I just enjoy farming and cure it.
>"QUICK GOY; YOURE MISSING OUT!!! GO GAMBLE YOUR MONEY IN VOLATILE MARKETS AND GIVE IT TO POTENTIAL SCAMMERS!! DONT U FEAR MISSING OUT?"
I would destroy society and exterminate humanity at the first change i'd get.
I won't miss out on shorting the frick out of this shit if it releases a coin, I'm a cryptogay and I'm all for web3 games but this is just plain moronic
Because it is inherently zero sum. For anyone to actually make money on crypto someone else has to lose the same amount. The only way to make money on a speculative asset with no inherent value is to sell it off to someone who pays more for it. Crypto "goes up" when people aren't selling but if they aren't selling they aren't making money, all their gains are unrealised. When they start selling to actually cash in on those gains the price plummets and a good portion of them lose money.
Ok, can you lend me a million dollars? Give me a help making some money and I'll reinvest you.
Surely with how you talk you probably have close to a bil from all the trading you did.
So from what I understand if you buy or mint a Polium pass you'll get the console for free when it releases in two years. They don't have specs or any games lined up for this thing but are the passes already available?
That's not an opinion it's just a blatantly wrong fact. There is nothing to support what the frick web3 can do to help literally anyone, it's just a buzzword to sell a scam.
this thread once again proves what a shithole full of backwards rednecks this place really is.
web3 is inevitable and it will usher gaming into a new era.
you either go with the times or go under.
because games, for the first time ever, will be truly unique experiences with real, meaningful decisions.
If you don't see how this will be paradigm shift that will turn the industry completely upside down, you're truly a complete moron.
>do a heist in GTA 5 > use the money you make to buy a car in real life >play a level in the newest Mario game >use the coins you collect to buy premium content on OnlyFans
the major issue with "play-to-earn" titles is that developers making them don't actually need to develop a fun game. People will willingly suffer if they're promised profit for it, so making the game fun is completely unnecessary, and therefore, a waste of resources.
>>do a heist in GTA 5 >> use the money you make to buy a car in real life
lmao yeah right. So you expect people to put tens of thousands of dollars (or for the sake of the argument, an NFT "worth" 40k) into a fricking nft console when people already don't want to buy your shitty burnt out mining GPUs?
>games aren't fun unless they require tons of real money
That aint how it works, that's the opposite of how it works.
When real money gets involved you get tons of bots, spreadsheet autists and chinks undressing the veneer and stripping a game down to pure numbers in the most unfun way possible.
They even do this without real money being involved.
This
Go look at any MMO and you'll find this exact shit. People do this with fricking runescape to trade gp for like 3 cents per million gp. People in Venezuela do it instead of working because real world trading runescape gold is better for them than actually working some jobs in their economy
2 years ago
Anonymous
>people in Venezuela do it instead of working because real world trading runescape gold is better for them than actually working some jobs in their economy
VenezolANO reportándose
from what fricking timeline/reality are you from? This is one of the most moronic shits I have heard people say about this shithole lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sup venezuelanbro. There were many articles about that happening 1-2 years ago
https://bristolatino.co.uk/looking-for-runescapes-venezuelan-gold-farmers/
I'm personally have a couple of friends who have done it for years (farming gold in MMOs in general), but as a side hustle rather than as their main source of income. Axie was also pretty popular among venezuelans before the crash, now it's back to gold farming I guess
2 years ago
Anonymous
>from what fricking timeline/reality are you from?
This one. Interview is at the 5 minute mark but there's more details
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sup venezuelanbro. There were many articles about that happening 1-2 years ago
https://bristolatino.co.uk/looking-for-runescapes-venezuelan-gold-farmers/
I'm personally have a couple of friends who have done it for years (farming gold in MMOs in general), but as a side hustle rather than as their main source of income. Axie was also pretty popular among venezuelans before the crash, now it's back to gold farming I guess
what the actual frick, never heard of this until now
2 years ago
Anonymous
In runescape there's these gambling bots, they show up at the grand exchange, people trade them money to try and get more out of it. Pretty much always a scam
Venezuelan gold farming is so commonplace in osrs that these bots send out messages specifically calling it out if they detect someone impersonating one of them
I remember watching someone who would play 20+ accounts at once all doing the same thing, then selling off the gold every day because the accounts would get banned after a few months. Basically enough time to train up future gold farming accounts. The methods used to get gp ateast are harder now than a couple years ago, but it certainly still happens
2 years ago
Anonymous
kek, venezuela goldfarming is some of the funniest shit.
If you put a gun to my head and said “you must make as much money as possible through video games.”
I’d rather set up bots to farm gold on WoW.
Or scam people on the Valve marketplace.
Both of which would be pretty revolting to do but not nearly as revolting as your Nimrod Funkopop Tokens.
>web3 is the future! >well explain to us why do you think so and how it will work? >well... uh *completely ignorant superficial and unrealistic view that was probably taken from a 5 minute youtube video on the topic*
They would still need to make money off of it, which means many will just lose money. Which would maybe be ok if games they offered were fun, but are these nft games fun?
It would not. It would be a terrible security threat to every system it gets integrated in, and the architecture would open up back doors for easy crypto mining software installation without consent.
It's hilarious how NFT bros will tell you that you just don't understand how blockchains work when they're questioned, but when talking about them they don't seem to have a clue how they work and their best arguments are by playing stupid with shit like "well what if it cured cancer, wouldn't that be nice, how can you be against that?"
NFTs are just entries in a ledger. There is a delusion that this ledger entry grants you a copyright, but it doesn't. Copyright is enforced through force of law, and no governments have agreed to honor these ledger entries. You can already transfer copyrights without the shitchain.
It means very little.
You have a receipt that can't be copied that can things put into it, like for example a description of something or some code or a link. Sounds good so far right? Except it's clunky and cumbersome to use.
They think it sounds neat and innovative so they want to invent uses for it, but all the uses they seem to find are either problems they made up or problems that already have better safer and more secure solutions.
Because when you get right down to it they are reinventing the wheel by adding corners to it. They are adding a feature that was removed by design and thinking it looks neat and novel, but it fixes nothing and makes everything worse.
They hide all of this stupidity behind buzzwords that mean nothing but sound neat to gullible people who like to think they're smarter than they actually are.
There's plenty of good video essays on NFTs and crypto by now. Just go look up one.
Yes. NFTs are essentially nothing. You don't own shit. You own a receipt that grants you certain license/rights to something, but you know what else already does that with fewer hurdles? An entry on a fricking database. And don't let the people telling you that you can sell it trade NFTs or that they can be used across multiple different games/systems fool you because that can already happen now with what we already have. The only thing limiting it are the companies who made these digital goods in the first place choosing not to allow it and guess what, they can do so with NFTs as well. Also, those receipts are currently unregulated and have no legal precedent to support them so they can be easily stolen or have their smart contracts breached and there's not a damn thing the law can do to help. In fact, implementing those regulations would completely strip away the supposed "benefit" that they aren't regulated so that's one more defending argument dead in the water. They are nothing. They are a joke. They are a scam.
an NFT is basically a very complex math equation
the blockchain is a bunch of computers hooking up to do a frickton of math in an random equation so moronicly complex it would take forever to reverse engineer it
people like to attach NFTs to things and say that thing's the NFT but they're just lying to make you buy a number
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NFT's never had a worth.
Every fricker talking about "just screenshot the jpg lol" has no Idea what they're talking about. Not because you can't screenshot the NFT, you absolutely can, but NFT was NEVER about the JPG. (It's not even a JPG it's a link to a JPG hosted outside the blockchain because blockchain hosting is stupidly expensive because it's fricking dumb).
NFT has always been about investment scamming people. An NFT is in essence worthless. As in, there is ZERO inherent value to an NFT. Arguably there is negative value attached to it since you need electricity to view and trade it but nevermind all that.
The kicker here is: The point of the NFT, is that someone mints it, and then tells the Internet: "Hey, this NFT I've created cost you $1000 now if you buy them from me, but the supply is limited! After you buy them, you can trade them to other people for tens of thousands of dollars!". So suckers wanting to make money, buy the NFT until the supply is eaten up, and then HOPE TO GOD that despite the thing not having inherent value, someone will BUY it from them, for more than $1k.
After that, that sucker needs to find someone to sell it too for even more than that. The only thing that convinces these idiots that it has value, is that "technically" their NFT is unique. (Again, an NFT is a link to an image hosted somewhere else, nothing makes this inherently unique, another NFT could link to the same fricking image if it wanted, whoever is hosting could change the image of the NFT to some CP and then you'd own a link to some CP congratulations.) So they REALLY hope that demand for their worthless links to JPGs stays up, because if nobody buys their investment scam, if they're the last person in the line of investment scams, then they just lost that money.
That's why it's stupid when people talk about how bad NFT "Art" is, or weather or not it is a legitimate way to sell digital art. It's not about art, but about the scam.
People tend to explain how an NFT works, or how blockchain works, but it doesn't matter. You get the most important information in this post.
It's very simple. You ever wanted to make money, but you have nothing to sell? Well, now you can sell people that nothing. Tell them that each nothing is unique, and there's a limited amount of nothing. Convince them that they'll be able to turn a profit by taking their brand new nothing and selling that nothing for more money than they originally paid for their nothing. It doesn't matter that in order for nothing to be worth something, someone else besides the owner has to decide it's worth something, When someone points that out, tell them that they "don't get it," and explain to them how the nothing you bought is worth some arbitrarily large amount of money. The last step in the plan, or the "final layer of the pyramid" if you will, is that some Chinese guy hacks your cryptowallet and steals your arbitrarily priced nothing and turns it into actual nothing.
Play to earn in some other format, like a fortnite battlepass that lets you own a piece of a map or something for player housing. Not an NFT but you can still trade it to other people.
I wouldn't put NFTs in that category. The way NFTs were pushed in most industries wasn't as a company effort to scam people, but rather one idiot techbro on the company board who caught on to the buzz, is too full of himself, and told his company to use NFTs in their products and announce right away that they were doing so.
didn't luna crash so hard they put a suicide hotline at the top of its reddit page
If it's about making money then that's just admitting it's a scam. Making money either comes from creating value or by taking that money from someone else. If there is no actual creation of anything of value then whatever you're doing will have its winners and losers, but you need to buy in to be either, and there will always only ever be fewer winners and a whole lot of losers.
And at that point it's just a lottery and you might as well buy scratcher tickets or play blackjack.
I'm sure compared to his part time retail jobs the payout from those scratcher tickets seemed big.
It's batshit that cryptogays think it's a good thing for your single solitary investment to be going up and down so much. That's not investing, that's just a fricking lottery.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because a literal lottery is better than working minimum wage in most places in America. Imagine suffering to live to flip burgers for 40 years and dying anyway.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I had a part time job while in school in a small college town. One of the local hicks who worked there seasonally mainly made money from two things: >gaming scratcher tickets >professional pool tournaments
And the burger flipping was just to supplement in the off season, or whatever equivalent professional pool has.
A low low standard of living, but pretty average for a small nowhere midwestern town that's only still kicking because it has a state college nearby.
2 years ago
Anonymous
reminds me of where im from,
I'm from a rich south florida city but the area im in is basically just that
If it's about making money then that's just admitting it's a scam. Making money either comes from creating value or by taking that money from someone else. If there is no actual creation of anything of value then whatever you're doing will have its winners and losers, but you need to buy in to be either, and there will always only ever be fewer winners and a whole lot of losers.
And at that point it's just a lottery and you might as well buy scratcher tickets or play blackjack.
I FRICKING HATE DIGITAL SCARCITY
STOP PUSHING THIS FRICKING IDEA
IT RUINS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE INTERNET
IT'S A FRICKING OXYMORON
DIGITAL SCARCITY IS NOT A THING AND STOP MAKING IT A THING
STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT A THING
FOR FRICK'S SAKE JUST STOP
Just because something is rare doesn't mean it has value. Scarcity is one ingredient but cryptogays are drunk on expired libertarian gold standard juice and think scarcity itself is all they need.
Modern economics has completely moved past useful goods to straight up manufacturing scarcity by taking things that are naturally abundant like water and clean air and intentionally ruining them to sell back what remains >bro thats so cartoonish haha nobody would do that, the government would like stop them
Nothing I just said is a hypothetical, its literally happening right now.
True I was just showing off. The thing is that scarcity, itself, as a concept, can be manufactured and sold, evidently. >this monkey rare
Why would I ever want that, it does nothing and its not even artistic >Blacks literally lining up to buy it
You and I agree this is moronic, but unfortunately people with way more money than us will just "decide" this is how money works now and we can't do anything about it. Because people with capital don't have needs. Value is a meaningless concept to someone that can buy all the food they need, all the shelther they need, all the internal satisfaction they need. When literally every single need on maslow's hierarchy is met, what else is there? Pictures of apes, because literally nothing matters.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I'm just showing off >proceeds to spew nonsense building up to a conspiracy theory
riiiiiight.
No NFTs are just a con. Lie about the value, hype it up, convince people of that value, those people who fall for it will buy based on the idea they can themselves make money just like you're making money from them. The end.
They're not "lining up" as if it's actually popular. It's very small numbers relative to how much they advertise it.
Honestly finding out that bored ape yacht club is quite possibly a giant /misc/ trolling effort where they call black people monkeys right to their faces and to the faces of black-obsessed libcucks while stealing their money makes me like NFT's a lot more.
>JUST BUY THE [[MONOPOLY MONEY]] YOU FRICKING [[LITTLE SPONGE]] YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON THESE HOT [[MONKEY JPEGS]] STOP HOLDING BACK [[HEAVEN]] YOU [[GERMAN AUTOS]] CHUD
Look at how much of a struggle it was for fricking microsoft and valve to squirm their way into the console market and then literally who gay companies think they can do it somehow and expect us to believe it.
Ironically Valve has made it easier than ever to shit out a console that can play an already existing library of games. It kind of makes any and all consoles useless, I have no idea why Dell or whoever doesn't have a Steam Machine line of products next to their dumb gamer laptops.
What was the reply after this? So sick of "HAHAHAHAHA GOTEEEEEM" but no one ever posts followup after the "gotcha" moment. I highly doubt they just didnt reply.
Because there is none
The stupidity of "you can take your NFT from one game to another" was a hilarious argument for a while, as if video game development worked that way. Yeah I'll take my NFT from an UE5 fps to a fricking unity cRPG
the steam inventory has existed for 15 years now. If people actually wanted this kind of game, they'd have made it by now
if this is this thing's only selling point, this console has no market for developers
It's a great way to make money quick but also it's an investment but also it's a good currency! None of these things actually work together but take your pick which lie sounds most appealing!
The idea of web3, decentralization and all that shit is great. Certainly the future in some form.
But until its actually in operation it does frick all and everything is useless scam shit.
The idea of platforms that aren't run and exploited by near useless middlemen is a good one. Imagine Uber with cheaper rides/more pay for drivers because the company doesn't take 30%. Imagine an amazon like website that doesn't take their cut.
The first problem is that someone has to build something that just works and then they have to give it up to the public and then it has to continue to work with millions of users in perpetuity. Who wants to put the effort in for minimal payout.
Then you've got the issue of features and continued development. Who's going to work on good shit that works without getting much of a payout for it, you'd just have tons of splinters that try to monetize.
Even if all that does work, large autonomous companies do allow for some efficiencies within themselves. Buying power, en masse shipping, pushing in a certain direction for years with unified plans.
What examples are there of open platforms that work fine for everyone? Linux? You've got to make the moron proof version that babbys can use easily and then youve got to market it to them heavily for uptake.
Linux already runs pretty much the entire internet (servers, edge servers, routers, cloud VM hypervisors, containers etc you call it) and a great percentage of customer devices (android, chromebooks, etc). Just because it doesn't dominate the desktop market, it doesn't mean it isn't a successful open platform.
blockchain is a scam, man in the middle attacks (the only thing a distributed ledger is good at protecting against) almost never happen in the financial sector anyway, it’s much easier to just scam someone (which blockchain makes easier)
Economies are all based on goods, services, and labor. Crypto is using computations as a stand-in for labor- and the computer really is doing a lot of difficult work to perform the computations so it's almost a functional substitute- but there's a clear difference between that and labor. That being the production of goods and services. NFTards tried getting around this by attaching "goods" in the form of collectible art, and now there are some people trying to attach crypto to "services" in video games and the meta verse. It won't ever work and you'll never hear anything good about crypto from someone who doesn't have stake in it.
Ganker is so weird sometimes.
Like, most of you gays can correctly identify that crypto is a scam, that cryptobros are full of shit, are ling truth their teeth and are trying to just manipulate and rugpull at every opportunity they have.
But then at the same time, some of you gays worship musk, legitimately think giant capitalist corporations are somehow "woke" and "left" despite treating their employees like shit and making huge donations to the gop, but they turn their twitter rainbow. And you believe that corona and mask wearing is a democrat hoax to grab power.
How can you see right trough that shit, but then still somehow think trans people are your enemy? How can you correctly identify this scam, but then when a doctor tells you to wear a mask you think he has been bought be a sinister conspiracy theory? It boggles the fricking mind.
>hey want to level up your paladin? >sure I don't mind killing some mobs >No I want you to pay me to level up your paladin >that doesn't make any sense >Diablo Immortal and all gacha games
egs, ubishit and konami got shilled here as well when they announced support of nft and crypto games.
its the neet's get rich quick scam, of course neets will advertise it here
Same reason why there's been constant NFT threads on Ganker since they took off
Actual fricking shilling by NFTbros trying to get people to buy into the stupidity.
Crypto was already a fricking pointless scam but NFTs are absolutely beyond moronic, pointless, and a scam. If this is the shit we're using to justify "web 3.0", then web 3.0 is like a forced meme. It's wise than pushing 4k or 8k when not only do neither of those things actually mean what they are called but there still didn't exist anything that makes them a noticable improvement because 1. it's not even that drastic and 2. half the hardware available can only manage it by faking it with upscaling.
Sometimes blatant scams are blatant scams regardless of political orientation, anon. You won't trick anyone into eating shit because 'look leftists HATE eating shit, you should really eat shit to own them!'
All the homosexuals in this thread who are just baiting for (You)s are actually right
Gaming WILL turn into work in the future. Zoomers are already conditioned to only play games for the grind. If you can't earn achievements, loot, xp etc. they think they are wasting their time with a game
Zoomers don't play games for fun anymore
I'd love to see this quote take off, but I also know it will be milked into the ground.
Ngl I think this quote actually killed the product. It hasn't made a comment in 24 hours
>b***h about technology you don't understand thread #1925464937262
Oh thank goodness, I thought it wasn't going to get posted
Okay but he asked what games would be there and they couldn't answer
How hard is it to say we have this game
What technology?
that;s what im saying
>Crypto exists entirely just to scam and rugpull people at this point
>People point out that they don't want that shit.
>YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAAND!!!!
Hope this shit gets outlawed.
The only people who don't understand crypto are cryptogays themselves who think blockchains are any more than useless.
bro its a double linked list. Thats all it is.
that is the whole of the technology.
Shut the frick up. I hope all of your money dried up
I will NEVER leave PC
Ok but what games
Damn bro receipts really are complex thank God cryptobros like you are here to help us comprehend them.
oh we understand perfectly fine
Imagine trying to make money off of NFTs lol. You missed your chance, bud.
Are NFTs worthless now
It took a dip
>now
They're worth the difference in what you pay and what you can trick a greater fool into paying.
They’re digital beanie babies.
Okay I was just wondering because NFTs just seem like a receipt
They were never worth anything, and the NFT craze was spurred on by the highly-inflated values of cryptocurrency in 2021. It was a mirage.
They are dead for now and so is crypto. I'm sure they'll come back in a years when the bear market is over.
With the imminent recession looming I'd be very surprised if they come back any time soon, i.e the next 2-3 years. Then again people are stupid.
they were always worthless, just now most morons are realizing they're fricking worthless
Buying NFTs were always a fool's errand. The money was in making NFTs.
Yeah because you can just hire an artist to shell out high quality art for slave wages instead of buying a shit looking monkey.
this is the thing that really gets me, commissioned art was literally THE way to hide your money from the gubment. It's a unique token that CANNOT be replicated and since its art, you can't be accused of inflating the price since its subjective. You can lend it out all over the place and still be the "real" owner and make money off the thing, hell if you had a good enough gallery just OWNING the thing could earn you money. ANd if you ever felt like you need money you'd sell it. Or if you just wanted to be a rascal you could "sell" it to get around taxes while you secretly pay for other shit. Like, this shit is down to a science. The frick do you need NFTs for? Art by its very nature is one of a kind, and costs like a tenth of the price to get something way better looking.
They always were
Of all crypto users, 0.1% have NFTs
Of that 0.1%, less than 10% hold 80% of all wealth in NFTs
Anyone trying to shill you an NFT is either one of that incredibly tiny amount of people and are doing so purely to increase their own profits, or are utterly clueless and have fallen for the hype.
and yet if I criticize "real" money for the same reason, I'm a commie
The difference being that fiat currency has a much larger foundation of people using it than NFT's do. The former has the backing of everyone living in and/or trading with that country that makes it, and the latter is backed merely by the group of people who hold them, which, with most collections, couldn't fill most sportsball stadiums.
NFT games sound interesting, but I've yet to see a fully implemented game with them yet...
Fiat currency had a large user base that is backed by many people with guns
A jpeg of a monkey is backed by some jackass on Twitter saying "just trust me bro"
If you can't understand the difference you shouldn't be trusted with any form of currency
>Are NFTs worthless now
>now
Always were.
If someone tells you that NFTs are worth something, it's because they want to sell you one for as much as they're claiming it's worth.
Ponzi schemes all go belly up eventually.
of all of this crypto bullshit they were definitely the most worthless. anyway crypto in general took a nosedive in value
If somebody ever told you NFT were worth shit, they were either trying to scam you, or being scammed themselves.
always have been
they never had any worth, every project is just "number go up, bro" along with some vague promises that they're going to turn it into a video game or metaverse or some shit when it gets big because that's what gets zoomzooms excited to go all in on the latest ponzi schemes
Yes
Most people don't understand crypto, even Ganker anon. NFTs aren't exclusively jpegs of cartoons etc. That's just the start. You're going to see NFTs change all sorts of things. It will be big in the music industry, you can own the rights to music as NFTs, other forms of art also; it will be big in engineering and patent industry; it will even eventually take off in real estate.
Crypto has crashed right now, but these are the times when people buy. You buy even everyone is convinced it's dead and gone, and then sell when all the normies are obsessed with it again and are trying to tell their family/friends about it. This happens every time and anon still haven't worked it out. I'm not saying to invest right now - I don't think this is the bottom, even if you were interested, and it might range low for a couple years more - I'm just highlighting how clueless most people (even Extremely Online Ganker anon) know about this topic.
nfts are a scam mate
Again, you need to mentally separate what an actual NFT is from cartoon jpegs. An NFT is private rights that you can sell/trade/loan. It can be for all sorts of things, not just cartoons. You still aren't seeing the big picture.
then why do they get stolen so often
>An NFT is private rights that you can sell/trade/loan
b***h please. Not even referring to the monkey shit, nfts dont give you copyright or ownership. you literally buy a hyperlink and can get sued by the actual artist if you try to do anything with their work
I know what an NFT is anon. What you're failing to convey is why anyone would want to use them
As a music artist why would I want to sell my music as an NFT?
I'm not talking about cartoons anon, I'm simply saying that NFTs will be big in the future in iterations that might surprise you. Disregard me iyw.
>You own a receipt that grants you certain license/rights to something
If you can't see all the myriad applications for something like this then lol.
>but you know what else already does that with fewer hurdles? An entry on a fricking database.
But this lets you sell/loan instantly with no middle man. Imagine not being able to see the use in that.
>If you can't see all the myriad applications for something like this then lol
oh, you mean like actual ip theft and scamming? there's a reason you ignored
>But this lets you sell/loan instantly with no middle man. Imagine not being able to see the use in that
The nft itself, yes. But any value tied to it is almost always off chain so various restrictions can be put on its use and trade. If you have a tradeable videogame item tied to an nft then the off-chain game servers are what really control the item. The devs can "burn" any nft that was traded without their approval or without giving them a cut through their store by simply removing any in-game representation of the item tied to that nft. You stilll have ypur nft and can trade it but any value it had as an ingame item is gone.
I genuinely feel sorry for you. I can't imagine being this delusional
Spare me your backhanded middle rung IQ passive aggression.
>when all the normies are obsessed with it again and are trying to tell their family/friends about it.
Literally describing a pyramid scheme. lol
here's a question, why would patent offices and realestate companies switch to NFTs instead of just using their current contracts and digital databases that already work fine. what utility do NFTs actually add that these companies would want?
That's a fair question, and I'm not about to claim that I have all the answers -- I don't. I'm only saying that the anon who stamp their feet and insist that NFTs are all done and dusted are wrong. The transactional use of NFTs is only beginning. This is all I'm trying to say, and it makes most anon absolutely pissed to hear it for some reason.
Anon there is theft and scamming in literally every avenue in life where there'd profit to be made. You really think that stops emergent industries if they're of use in other ways? You could say usury itself is a form of theft. Your whole reasoning is clouded by your personal dislike of this shit, which is fine, but at least admit you're biased instead of playing some arbiter of rationality.
Migrating existing patenting and license systems from their current forms to NFTs is ultimately pointless since it offers no real advantages other than giving the kind of people who jerk off over the blockchain hardons.
>there is theft and scamming in literally every avenue in life where there'd profit to be made
aww, how cute. so tell me again, what am I getting when I buy a nft? Not copyright, not usage permissions, not official ip ownership
you're getting a meme commodity that has perceived value to moron willing to buy from people like the guy you're responding that try to argue their way into a sell, literally the entire thing is a scam
t. future lifelong house renters
Get rekt & kek'd, pseuds.
NFTards are the ones who think buying rare pepes is a better investment than land. Try again
>he thinks I'm still bag holding
>he doesn't know about the stables I now have sidelined ready to deploy
There's so much you don't understand, but I'm fine with you two smug idiots leaving easy money on the table.
>all this seethe because he couldnt answer a simple question
lmao
I've been humble about the limits of my knowledge this whole time.
>I'm not about to claim that I have all the answers -- I don't.
But it's always the poor smug pseuds who insist that they know better.
>Buy NFTs, they're the future!
>what am I getting when I buy a nft?
>REEEEEEEE YOU CANT EXPECT ME.TO KNOW EVERYTHING!!!!
top kek
Something tangible (1% of nft's if that) is getting access to a club of richgays only, the moment richgays frick off the value of the entry token is worthless
NFT user experience now is like 28k consumer modems back in the day. Could you expect a retail pleb back then to be able to rattle off all the things that were going to be possible with the net just two decades later? I don't know how this will evolve or what it will look like, but it's here to stay in some form. That's all I'm saying. You can be as incredulous as you want, I truly don't care.
You're not being asked to name every possible use, just a single practical thing you can do with nfts that is not possible with current technology.
At this point you're saying you're sure it will blow up but have no idea what the frick people are going to do with it. Then what makes you so sure it will blow up?
because then he'll be rich because he's so smart
are you even paying attention?
I'm not a fan of current "cartoon" NFTs, if that's what you're assuming. I never implied as much. I'm saying to those anon who think NFTs are a fad and dead now, that they are mistaken. But many of these anon also conflate the transactional use of an NFT with cartoons thingamajigs, & consider them one and the same. Not true.
>At this point you're saying you're sure it will blow up but have no idea what the frick people are going to do with it.
Kind of, yeah. And you're saying you're sure it's dead. We both have our own wager on it. And for the record just because NFTs might survive in other forms later doesn't necessarily mean that I'll view them as a good investment opportunity. One of the main reasons for cartoon NFTs soaring was all the fed funny money being printed.
>But please, keep raging. Seeing you snake oil salesmen seethe never gets old
I'm not raging. I've actually been more self-aware and accountable in my knowledge limitations that you have, anon. And I'm not opposed to selling some snake oil, if it means I can pay for my retirement and my parents retirement. Many men in this age are weak and afraid of doing what they must for their own. I will jump into ponzi after ponzi for me & mine.
Fools and their money are soon parted, and chads sell the top and have stables ready to buy cheap wins. Problem?
>you guys only say NFTs are used to trade cartoon apes but theres so much more
>then name it
You still have yet to give an example of a practical use, either stop trying to weasel out of it or give up you fricking rat
NFTs right now don't have a lot of practical use; they're like moronic nerd israeliteelry. But I wager that they'll have multiple uses later on. What they'll be? I don't know. If that's not a good enough answer for you, that is not my problem.
Kek anon I've already sold my bags. I'm holding USDC now, waiting to buy back when things are cheaper. Instead of pretending you know it all you could humble yourself and try to learn how to navigate this shit. Maybe you hate it, cool, but you hate your job too right? At least this way you might actually be able to afford a house for yourself at some point.
NFT lets you do the same thing as the TF2 item server but a million times more expensive and impossible to admin. It's the future! Invest your life savings now!
>admits to being a moronic scammer
how adorable. good luck peddling your bags lmao
>Could you expect a retail pleb back then to be able to rattle off all the things that were going to be possible with the net just two decades later?
No, but I would expect him to know what the internet is and how it could be used at the moment. Which is what you're failing at right now.
But please, keep raging. Seeing you snake oil salesmen seethe never gets old
>I don't know how this will evolve or what it will look like, but it's here to stay in some form
>t. doesnt even know WHAT it is
fools and their money are soon parted, as they say.
good luck trying to dump your nft's bro im sure there's morons out there willing to buy
In the future all your gacha 5star waifus will be nft's and there's nothing any of us can do to stop it
Not my problem, only dumbasses play gacha
It is going to be your problem as publishers keep trying to push gacha shit further into single player games
Also you're describing the same paypigs dumb enough to buy nft's
yea and I shit on gachatards too. Seeing them rage when Dragalia Lost announced EoS was especially cathartic, just like seeing NFTards seethe when Ubi pulled the rug
Yep, and now imagine gachatards being able to buy and sell their waifus like some weird slave market, we haven't even gotten close to peak degenerate, someone is absolutely gonna spend 7 figures on a "blockchain rarity guaranteed one of a kind" gacha waifu for whatever game becomes popular first and normies will flood in like clockwork
>NFTs aren't exclusively jpegs of cartoons etc
NFTs have literally nothing to do with jpgs. An NFT is just a non-fungible token with some room for text in the middle. You aren't selling art, you aren't selling music, you're selling a unique token with a post-it attached.
Always have been. It's a scam after all.
They have no intrinsic value and are purchased as either a novelty, a status symbol, or as a speculative commodity.
If someone wants an NFT for novelty he'll pay as much as you'd expect for a mediocre picture.
Anyone who would purchase an expensive NFT as a status symbol already has one and they're going (more like have gone) out of fashion.
All that's left is scammers who will try to offload their collection onto morons into buying it on the basis "it'll surely increase in value" (it won't)
Imagine paying for a ticket in a line to nothing.
>They have no intrinsic value
What is the intrinsic value of video games?
The artistic content, which yes is subjective, but its real. AI generated art is literally, by any and all definitions, worthless even in a subjective point of view. I can happily sit on a copy of a game till I die because I like playing it. Aint a homie on earth that is happy looking at, listening to, or otherwise "experiencing" their NFT
The intrinsic value is the receipt. That's why I buy my games, throw them out, then just store the receipt.
Utility
Entertainment, moron. Or do you get enjoyment staring at a jpg of an ugly chimp all day?
>What is the intrinsic value of video games?
I buy video games to play: what does that have to do with NFTs?
>"muh intrinsic valu, you are losing money by not turning every single minimal and stupid aspect of your life into a literal korean mmo griding!"
I sometimes feel pathetic, but at least I'm not trying to turn every free minute of my life into digital tabletop fake money that can lose all its value in just a single fart
More than buying a movie.
A video game $60-70 provides up to hundreds of hours of entertainment.
A movie $20 bought, provides 2 hours of entertainment. Maybe if you're autistic you watch it 10+ times and get a similar utility as a video game.
NFT's never had a worth.
Every fricker talking about "just screenshot the jpg lol" has no Idea what they're talking about. Not because you can't screenshot the NFT, you absolutely can, but NFT was NEVER about the JPG. (It's not even a JPG it's a link to a JPG hosted outside the blockchain because blockchain hosting is stupidly expensive because it's fricking dumb).
NFT has always been about investment scamming people. An NFT is in essence worthless. As in, there is ZERO inherent value to an NFT. Arguably there is negative value attached to it since you need electricity to view and trade it but nevermind all that.
The kicker here is: The point of the NFT, is that someone mints it, and then tells the Internet: "Hey, this NFT I've created cost you $1000 now if you buy them from me, but the supply is limited! After you buy them, you can trade them to other people for tens of thousands of dollars!". So suckers wanting to make money, buy the NFT until the supply is eaten up, and then HOPE TO GOD that despite the thing not having inherent value, someone will BUY it from them, for more than $1k.
After that, that sucker needs to find someone to sell it too for even more than that. The only thing that convinces these idiots that it has value, is that "technically" their NFT is unique. (Again, an NFT is a link to an image hosted somewhere else, nothing makes this inherently unique, another NFT could link to the same fricking image if it wanted, whoever is hosting could change the image of the NFT to some CP and then you'd own a link to some CP congratulations.) So they REALLY hope that demand for their worthless links to JPGs stays up, because if nobody buys their investment scam, if they're the last person in the line of investment scams, then they just lost that money.
That's why it's stupid when people talk about how bad NFT "Art" is, or weather or not it is a legitimate way to sell digital art. It's not about art, but about the scam.
I think even on a sunconsious level people knew it was a scam, and thst warms my heart a little
They can be wrong sure, but they were right for avoiding it.
Just another new way to scam people since the government is still behind, eventually there will be anoyher ENRON and it will imvolve blockchain
this, i have a friend falling for these scams and he described to me this exact same process on the wax blockchain: people set up a "project" and make nft's for it that supposedly will let you interact with the project, the nft is set up so it can only be bought after a certain time so people in the discord server (usually chinks and latinos) get the link and all wait until it becomes that time to buy and instantly sell it. it gets so bad that the price drops before the initial value within a second and you have to hope you were one of the first to buy and sell the thing. it gets worse, both operations have a captcha and you are fricked without some sort of automation.
Stop advertising
playstation is doing nfts?
why is Ganker so averse to making money?
you missed out on bitcoin.
you missed out on chainlink.
you missed out on ethereum.
you missed out on nfts.
you really going to miss out on this too?
What do you mean miss on this
There's no competence behind the project
You gonna miss out on this? *unzips*
I'm not so mindfricked by the rat race that society locks us into at birth that I'm going to spend money on pngs and fake money. Good lord.
Boomer mentality, funny how its all old fricks who hate on crypto and slightly younger old fricks who hate NFT’s now.
What are you even talking about?
How will I supposedly make money from a console?
Saying outright that it's about making money is just admitting that it has no other value outside of being a get rich quick scam.
I never got why everyone was so against nfts in games
From what I understand it's just
>play games
>make money for playing them
What's wrong with that, that sounds great
NFTs are just a number in a line of numbers. You don't make any money unless someone wants your number but why would anyone want your
This, it's a casino where you don't want to cash in the chips
Bots will start spamming every game
And you're only making pennies a day
if you find someone who wants to puchase them anyways
Yeah it's basically worthless trading
How are you making money? Who's paying you to scratch your butthole?
>What's wrong with that, that sounds great
Yeah what's wrong with scientists inventing a button and you magically teleport to wherever you want? I don't see why people are so against this idea. It would solve so many problems. Why don't they just make it happen?
The answer is that they're promising a moronic fantasy and cannot deliver on it.
Where did you get that from? The Polium website?
Yeah but getting that money will be the same as being a gold seller in WoW. There will be so many groups of people doing it for pennies that it will be impossible to do for a single person.
Because video games aren't meant for enjoyment and NOT a second job. A game that's designed as play to earn is a game that's not fun to play. I already work a shit job, I don't wanna work another.
You don't make money from the NFT itself. You effectively mine as you play, and the amount you make is laughable at this point even Axie which bragged about helping people make above minimum in the Philippines has lost large swaths of its player base.
There are two reasons someone would pay you to do something. The first is that they can't do it, and the second is that they don't want to do it.
Statistically, you are not in the top 0.1% of videogame players with amazing, godlike skill who can perform tasks nobody else is capable of - and if you are, that's ALREADY monetizable. That leaves "don't want to do it". If you're making money playing a game, the game is going to be repetitive grinding that people don't WANT to do for fun, because if they did, they wouldn't want to pay you to do it for them.
This isn't designed to make players money, it's designed to make investors who have no interest in the game whatsoever and just speculate on the assets other people farm and sell money.
>Turning your game-time into work.
years worth of money-making in several MMO's screams "Frick that"
If I wanted to spend all my playtime trying to game the market, I'd go back to EVE Online.
attaching an intrinsic value to a unique set of variables does sound like it would work in vidya but it has to be done right, which nobody is doing
even I don't know what "doing it right" means but I sure as frick don't want to grind candy crush for goods so I can sell the goods in elder scrolls so I can use the money to buy gear in OSRS
Some people have a conscience.
I'm still mad for buying REQ over Link
It's always weird these threads about the polium always end in these types of talks
>redditfrog
opinion discarded
all the crypto homosexuals are broke or dead now
most are
>most
because in order to win big a lot of other people have to lose.
I'm adverse to pyramid schemes and scams.
Keep holding that bag homosexual
You miss out on money by not gambling at the casino too.
WHAT??
I don't need "money", I prefer owning things that I can enjoy and jave value for me without the endless need of being resellable. I bought land and I just enjoy farming and cure it.
>"QUICK GOY; YOURE MISSING OUT!!! GO GAMBLE YOUR MONEY IN VOLATILE MARKETS AND GIVE IT TO POTENTIAL SCAMMERS!! DONT U FEAR MISSING OUT?"
I would destroy society and exterminate humanity at the first change i'd get.
I won't miss out on shorting the frick out of this shit if it releases a coin, I'm a cryptogay and I'm all for web3 games but this is just plain moronic
There's easier ways to make money. Take all that money that you'd waste getting into crypto and invest in the stock market or real estate.
>lost 70% on bitcoin
>lost 80% on chainlink
>lost 66% on ethereum
>missed out on nfts
yeah i think im gonna miss out on this one too
How is it even possible to lose that much on the asset that is constantly going up?
Because it is inherently zero sum. For anyone to actually make money on crypto someone else has to lose the same amount. The only way to make money on a speculative asset with no inherent value is to sell it off to someone who pays more for it. Crypto "goes up" when people aren't selling but if they aren't selling they aren't making money, all their gains are unrealised. When they start selling to actually cash in on those gains the price plummets and a good portion of them lose money.
>yes it's a scam that's going to inevitably crash, but you just gotta get in on the ground floor dude. Anyways, you wanna buy some of my Ahegao Apes?
Frogs deserve scorpions.
You missed out on oil stocks pump months ago.
put your money towards developing skills and gaining certifications/diplomas
there's no greater investment than yourself
Ok, can you lend me a million dollars? Give me a help making some money and I'll reinvest you.
Surely with how you talk you probably have close to a bil from all the trading you did.
>don't you wanna make money!? just join our ponzi scheme!
So from what I understand if you buy or mint a Polium pass you'll get the console for free when it releases in two years. They don't have specs or any games lined up for this thing but are the passes already available?
You can't mint the stuff yet
I tried for fun yesterday
I'm honestly surprised about that.
Yeah unless I just couldn't do it
They haven't been active in 24 hours and I don't wanna lose my account joining the discord
Unpopular opinion, web3 would be incredible for vidya
Skipping web3, waiting for web4 here.
How so?
Not my job to educate you.
Then you have nothing to support your scam
Outstanding claims require outstanding evidence
>JUST FRICKING TRUST ME!
How. Like explain how
yea I would also love 3rd world bot farmers polluting all my games too.
That's not an opinion it's just a blatantly wrong fact. There is nothing to support what the frick web3 can do to help literally anyone, it's just a buzzword to sell a scam.
can you explain, in your own word, what "web3" is?
we should go back to web 1.0
I miss websites
this thread once again proves what a shithole full of backwards rednecks this place really is.
web3 is inevitable and it will usher gaming into a new era.
you either go with the times or go under.
this 100%
Go ahead and explain just what web3 and NFTs will bring to video games?
because games, for the first time ever, will be truly unique experiences with real, meaningful decisions.
If you don't see how this will be paradigm shift that will turn the industry completely upside down, you're truly a complete moron.
>do a heist in GTA 5
> use the money you make to buy a car in real life
>play a level in the newest Mario game
>use the coins you collect to buy premium content on OnlyFans
this is the future and it will be amazing
Here's your future *unzips*
the major issue with "play-to-earn" titles is that developers making them don't actually need to develop a fun game. People will willingly suffer if they're promised profit for it, so making the game fun is completely unnecessary, and therefore, a waste of resources.
you can buy real stuff like a car with fake money? Damn how revolutionary.
lmao it will never work like this, at best it will devolve into what amounts to a bunch of obfuscated online casinos
>do a heist in GTA 5
>use the money you make to buy a car in real life
Ok, nice bait anon. You got me.
>>do a heist in GTA 5
>> use the money you make to buy a car in real life
lmao yeah right. So you expect people to put tens of thousands of dollars (or for the sake of the argument, an NFT "worth" 40k) into a fricking nft console when people already don't want to buy your shitty burnt out mining GPUs?
>games aren't fun unless they require tons of real money
That aint how it works, that's the opposite of how it works.
When real money gets involved you get tons of bots, spreadsheet autists and chinks undressing the veneer and stripping a game down to pure numbers in the most unfun way possible.
They even do this without real money being involved.
This
Go look at any MMO and you'll find this exact shit. People do this with fricking runescape to trade gp for like 3 cents per million gp. People in Venezuela do it instead of working because real world trading runescape gold is better for them than actually working some jobs in their economy
>people in Venezuela do it instead of working because real world trading runescape gold is better for them than actually working some jobs in their economy
VenezolANO reportándose
from what fricking timeline/reality are you from? This is one of the most moronic shits I have heard people say about this shithole lmao
Sup venezuelanbro. There were many articles about that happening 1-2 years ago
https://bristolatino.co.uk/looking-for-runescapes-venezuelan-gold-farmers/
I'm personally have a couple of friends who have done it for years (farming gold in MMOs in general), but as a side hustle rather than as their main source of income. Axie was also pretty popular among venezuelans before the crash, now it's back to gold farming I guess
>from what fricking timeline/reality are you from?
This one. Interview is at the 5 minute mark but there's more details
what the actual frick, never heard of this until now
In runescape there's these gambling bots, they show up at the grand exchange, people trade them money to try and get more out of it. Pretty much always a scam
Venezuelan gold farming is so commonplace in osrs that these bots send out messages specifically calling it out if they detect someone impersonating one of them
I remember watching someone who would play 20+ accounts at once all doing the same thing, then selling off the gold every day because the accounts would get banned after a few months. Basically enough time to train up future gold farming accounts. The methods used to get gp ateast are harder now than a couple years ago, but it certainly still happens
kek, venezuela goldfarming is some of the funniest shit.
It's hilarious how many No Fricking Talent shills are on Ganker. Every single thread about No Fricking Talent scams on this site is filled with them.
So nothing got it
If you put a gun to my head and said “you must make as much money as possible through video games.”
I’d rather set up bots to farm gold on WoW.
Or scam people on the Valve marketplace.
Both of which would be pretty revolting to do but not nearly as revolting as your Nimrod Funkopop Tokens.
I'd just take the bullet to be honest
>web3 is the future!
>well explain to us why do you think so and how it will work?
>well... uh *completely ignorant superficial and unrealistic view that was probably taken from a 5 minute youtube video on the topic*
They would still need to make money off of it, which means many will just lose money. Which would maybe be ok if games they offered were fun, but are these nft games fun?
then what thE FRICK IS IT THEN
EXPLAIN IT moron
Explain it moron
Not even big tech companies are buying into web3 yet and yet you think it will somehow revolutionize gaming as a whole
It would not. It would be a terrible security threat to every system it gets integrated in, and the architecture would open up back doors for easy crypto mining software installation without consent.
So the same as the ps5/SeX
It's hilarious how NFT bros will tell you that you just don't understand how blockchains work when they're questioned, but when talking about them they don't seem to have a clue how they work and their best arguments are by playing stupid with shit like "well what if it cured cancer, wouldn't that be nice, how can you be against that?"
It's just safe words they use to escape when they fail to scam with their parrot phrases.
Seriously I just want someone to tell me what it all means
NFTs are just entries in a ledger. There is a delusion that this ledger entry grants you a copyright, but it doesn't. Copyright is enforced through force of law, and no governments have agreed to honor these ledger entries. You can already transfer copyrights without the shitchain.
It means very little.
You have a receipt that can't be copied that can things put into it, like for example a description of something or some code or a link. Sounds good so far right? Except it's clunky and cumbersome to use.
They think it sounds neat and innovative so they want to invent uses for it, but all the uses they seem to find are either problems they made up or problems that already have better safer and more secure solutions.
Because when you get right down to it they are reinventing the wheel by adding corners to it. They are adding a feature that was removed by design and thinking it looks neat and novel, but it fixes nothing and makes everything worse.
They hide all of this stupidity behind buzzwords that mean nothing but sound neat to gullible people who like to think they're smarter than they actually are.
There's plenty of good video essays on NFTs and crypto by now. Just go look up one.
So there's nothing here
It's nothing here
Yes. NFTs are essentially nothing. You don't own shit. You own a receipt that grants you certain license/rights to something, but you know what else already does that with fewer hurdles? An entry on a fricking database. And don't let the people telling you that you can sell it trade NFTs or that they can be used across multiple different games/systems fool you because that can already happen now with what we already have. The only thing limiting it are the companies who made these digital goods in the first place choosing not to allow it and guess what, they can do so with NFTs as well. Also, those receipts are currently unregulated and have no legal precedent to support them so they can be easily stolen or have their smart contracts breached and there's not a damn thing the law can do to help. In fact, implementing those regulations would completely strip away the supposed "benefit" that they aren't regulated so that's one more defending argument dead in the water. They are nothing. They are a joke. They are a scam.
an NFT is basically a very complex math equation
the blockchain is a bunch of computers hooking up to do a frickton of math in an random equation so moronicly complex it would take forever to reverse engineer it
people like to attach NFTs to things and say that thing's the NFT but they're just lying to make you buy a number
See
People tend to explain how an NFT works, or how blockchain works, but it doesn't matter. You get the most important information in this post.
It's very simple. You ever wanted to make money, but you have nothing to sell? Well, now you can sell people that nothing. Tell them that each nothing is unique, and there's a limited amount of nothing. Convince them that they'll be able to turn a profit by taking their brand new nothing and selling that nothing for more money than they originally paid for their nothing. It doesn't matter that in order for nothing to be worth something, someone else besides the owner has to decide it's worth something, When someone points that out, tell them that they "don't get it," and explain to them how the nothing you bought is worth some arbitrarily large amount of money. The last step in the plan, or the "final layer of the pyramid" if you will, is that some Chinese guy hacks your cryptowallet and steals your arbitrarily priced nothing and turns it into actual nothing.
Understand now?
I think the dumbest thing I ever invested into was a 600 dollar board game that my friends tricked me into buying.
Actually it was 4 grand on 1 semester of college, but I extremely don't want to talk about that.
>semester
What was the board game
Kingdom Death. I don't even like painting models. Its just been siting in my closet covered in a plastic bag so it doesn't get dusty.
Ah God. I'm feeling that now with my console collections
Now that NFTs have gone belly up, what is the next scam vidya companies are going to push?
Vr sex
Calling it now
Play to earn in some other format, like a fortnite battlepass that lets you own a piece of a map or something for player housing. Not an NFT but you can still trade it to other people.
I wouldn't put NFTs in that category. The way NFTs were pushed in most industries wasn't as a company effort to scam people, but rather one idiot techbro on the company board who caught on to the buzz, is too full of himself, and told his company to use NFTs in their products and announce right away that they were doing so.
It was the same in every other industry.
>he's WILLINGLY allowing himself to miss out on the next big money maker
NGMI, HFBP
>money maker
Lol not for you.
Stay mad poorgays, I'm already mooning.
I have a real job and make actual money over time. You're just bragging about your tiny jackpot at a casino.
you probably make more in a week than he's ever made trading
I'm sure compared to his part time retail jobs the payout from those scratcher tickets seemed big.
It's batshit that cryptogays think it's a good thing for your single solitary investment to be going up and down so much. That's not investing, that's just a fricking lottery.
Because a literal lottery is better than working minimum wage in most places in America. Imagine suffering to live to flip burgers for 40 years and dying anyway.
I had a part time job while in school in a small college town. One of the local hicks who worked there seasonally mainly made money from two things:
>gaming scratcher tickets
>professional pool tournaments
And the burger flipping was just to supplement in the off season, or whatever equivalent professional pool has.
A low low standard of living, but pretty average for a small nowhere midwestern town that's only still kicking because it has a state college nearby.
reminds me of where im from,
I'm from a rich south florida city but the area im in is basically just that
Shut the frick up
didn't luna crash so hard they put a suicide hotline at the top of its reddit page
If it's about making money then that's just admitting it's a scam. Making money either comes from creating value or by taking that money from someone else. If there is no actual creation of anything of value then whatever you're doing will have its winners and losers, but you need to buy in to be either, and there will always only ever be fewer winners and a whole lot of losers.
And at that point it's just a lottery and you might as well buy scratcher tickets or play blackjack.
not gonna hold your bags
I FRICKING HATE DIGITAL SCARCITY
STOP PUSHING THIS FRICKING IDEA
IT RUINS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE INTERNET
IT'S A FRICKING OXYMORON
DIGITAL SCARCITY IS NOT A THING AND STOP MAKING IT A THING
STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT A THING
FOR FRICK'S SAKE JUST STOP
digital scarcity is real scarcity
you will participate in the metaverse
let us in
>pirates your metaverse
>make community server with all microtransactions removed
What now?
Just because something is rare doesn't mean it has value. Scarcity is one ingredient but cryptogays are drunk on expired libertarian gold standard juice and think scarcity itself is all they need.
Modern economics has completely moved past useful goods to straight up manufacturing scarcity by taking things that are naturally abundant like water and clean air and intentionally ruining them to sell back what remains
>bro thats so cartoonish haha nobody would do that, the government would like stop them
Nothing I just said is a hypothetical, its literally happening right now.
Yes, and?
Those things have value. Them being made scarce didn't give them that value, it just increased the demand which raised the existing value.
The thing is that scarcity is not the source of the value, it's just a modifier.
True I was just showing off. The thing is that scarcity, itself, as a concept, can be manufactured and sold, evidently.
>this monkey rare
Why would I ever want that, it does nothing and its not even artistic
>Blacks literally lining up to buy it
You and I agree this is moronic, but unfortunately people with way more money than us will just "decide" this is how money works now and we can't do anything about it. Because people with capital don't have needs. Value is a meaningless concept to someone that can buy all the food they need, all the shelther they need, all the internal satisfaction they need. When literally every single need on maslow's hierarchy is met, what else is there? Pictures of apes, because literally nothing matters.
>I'm just showing off
>proceeds to spew nonsense building up to a conspiracy theory
riiiiiight.
No NFTs are just a con. Lie about the value, hype it up, convince people of that value, those people who fall for it will buy based on the idea they can themselves make money just like you're making money from them. The end.
They're not "lining up" as if it's actually popular. It's very small numbers relative to how much they advertise it.
New console tan
Will you make her an NFT?
What the frick is a web3 game?
web 2.0 brought us games as a service, web 3.0 will supposedly bring us games as work.
Can I stay in web 1.0 that brought us games as a fun time?
you can play all the web 1.0 games you want, but it will never feel like it used to, and what's left of the communities will disappear in time.
>JUST BUY THE NFT BOX YOU FRICKING GOYIM YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON [NEXT BIG THING] STOP HOLDING BACK HUMANITY YOU NAZI CHUD
BUY THE NEXT BING THING THAT NO ONE WILL USE
Honestly finding out that bored ape yacht club is quite possibly a giant /misc/ trolling effort where they call black people monkeys right to their faces and to the faces of black-obsessed libcucks while stealing their money makes me like NFT's a lot more.
Yes of course. Only /misc/ calls Black folk monkeys... fricking moron lol
>JUST BUY THE [[MONOPOLY MONEY]] YOU FRICKING [[LITTLE SPONGE]] YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON THESE HOT [[MONKEY JPEGS]] STOP HOLDING BACK [[HEAVEN]] YOU [[GERMAN AUTOS]] CHUD
Look at how much of a struggle it was for fricking microsoft and valve to squirm their way into the console market and then literally who gay companies think they can do it somehow and expect us to believe it.
>amico
Ironically Valve has made it easier than ever to shit out a console that can play an already existing library of games. It kind of makes any and all consoles useless, I have no idea why Dell or whoever doesn't have a Steam Machine line of products next to their dumb gamer laptops.
What was the reply after this? So sick of "HAHAHAHAHA GOTEEEEEM" but no one ever posts followup after the "gotcha" moment. I highly doubt they just didnt reply.
the reply was we're working to get games on the console thats it
He said "YWNBAW"
>I doubt they ever just don't reply
that's literally what happens in these cases. If you're caught in a lie either you make it worse or you ghost.
they did reply
no games
Still haven't heard a single use case for NFTs in vidya that's better than a normal server and realistic to implement
Because there is none
The stupidity of "you can take your NFT from one game to another" was a hilarious argument for a while, as if video game development worked that way. Yeah I'll take my NFT from an UE5 fps to a fricking unity cRPG
Whats super dumb is that you can already do this for lots of games, its called modding.
but this makes money@
you can sell mods
It's literally reinventing the wheel by making it square.
I will take the boobs from summertime saga into Battlefield
the steam inventory has existed for 15 years now. If people actually wanted this kind of game, they'd have made it by now
if this is this thing's only selling point, this console has no market for developers
>nft good decentralization good
>make console
Absolute state of cryptoscammer
It's a great way to make money quick but also it's an investment but also it's a good currency! None of these things actually work together but take your pick which lie sounds most appealing!
Imagine having LESS games than the Playstation
This lmao
It has less games than the PS5 has exclusives
I had to remake the PlayStation has no games meme for this
The idea of web3, decentralization and all that shit is great. Certainly the future in some form.
But until its actually in operation it does frick all and everything is useless scam shit.
The idea of platforms that aren't run and exploited by near useless middlemen is a good one. Imagine Uber with cheaper rides/more pay for drivers because the company doesn't take 30%. Imagine an amazon like website that doesn't take their cut.
The first problem is that someone has to build something that just works and then they have to give it up to the public and then it has to continue to work with millions of users in perpetuity. Who wants to put the effort in for minimal payout.
Then you've got the issue of features and continued development. Who's going to work on good shit that works without getting much of a payout for it, you'd just have tons of splinters that try to monetize.
Even if all that does work, large autonomous companies do allow for some efficiencies within themselves. Buying power, en masse shipping, pushing in a certain direction for years with unified plans.
What examples are there of open platforms that work fine for everyone? Linux? You've got to make the moron proof version that babbys can use easily and then youve got to market it to them heavily for uptake.
Ideas good. No idea how it will ever happen.
Yeah that's.what.seems to be missing from all these projects
Structure
It just seems like random bullshit
web3 is a fundamentally bad idea it’s just a scam
Linux already runs pretty much the entire internet (servers, edge servers, routers, cloud VM hypervisors, containers etc you call it) and a great percentage of customer devices (android, chromebooks, etc). Just because it doesn't dominate the desktop market, it doesn't mean it isn't a successful open platform.
blockchain is a scam, man in the middle attacks (the only thing a distributed ledger is good at protecting against) almost never happen in the financial sector anyway, it’s much easier to just scam someone (which blockchain makes easier)
That'd be great. I wonder if anyone has that pull here
Economies are all based on goods, services, and labor. Crypto is using computations as a stand-in for labor- and the computer really is doing a lot of difficult work to perform the computations so it's almost a functional substitute- but there's a clear difference between that and labor. That being the production of goods and services. NFTards tried getting around this by attaching "goods" in the form of collectible art, and now there are some people trying to attach crypto to "services" in video games and the meta verse. It won't ever work and you'll never hear anything good about crypto from someone who doesn't have stake in it.
Ganker is so weird sometimes.
Like, most of you gays can correctly identify that crypto is a scam, that cryptobros are full of shit, are ling truth their teeth and are trying to just manipulate and rugpull at every opportunity they have.
But then at the same time, some of you gays worship musk, legitimately think giant capitalist corporations are somehow "woke" and "left" despite treating their employees like shit and making huge donations to the gop, but they turn their twitter rainbow. And you believe that corona and mask wearing is a democrat hoax to grab power.
How can you see right trough that shit, but then still somehow think trans people are your enemy? How can you correctly identify this scam, but then when a doctor tells you to wear a mask you think he has been bought be a sinister conspiracy theory? It boggles the fricking mind.
Maybe you could just stop assuming so many things.
You stupid b***h.
>hey want to level up your paladin?
>sure I don't mind killing some mobs
>No I want you to pay me to level up your paladin
>that doesn't make any sense
>Diablo Immortal and all gacha games
I love this. Reminds me of all the shit consoles that came and went in the 90s and early 2000s
Why are there so many threads being made about this thing? It's obviously shit but not even Stadia got this much attention.
egs, ubishit and konami got shilled here as well when they announced support of nft and crypto games.
its the neet's get rich quick scam, of course neets will advertise it here
Same reason why there's been constant NFT threads on Ganker since they took off
Actual fricking shilling by NFTbros trying to get people to buy into the stupidity.
Imagine wanting the renters-landlord model in gaming.
>2121
just console design
just HW dev
just SW dev
just prototype
just manufacturing
6 months left
just
BOY
DO I HAVE A BRIDGE TO SELL YA
IN 2024
The only good thing to ever come out of crypto was Monero. Literally everything is complete dogshit.
Does anybody have a red-pill videos about NFT
and why it's killing vidya?
Not exactly on how it's bad for vidya but this is probably the most in-depth video about NFTs
i dont even know what web3 is
What the frick is web3?
Crypto was already a fricking pointless scam but NFTs are absolutely beyond moronic, pointless, and a scam. If this is the shit we're using to justify "web 3.0", then web 3.0 is like a forced meme. It's wise than pushing 4k or 8k when not only do neither of those things actually mean what they are called but there still didn't exist anything that makes them a noticable improvement because 1. it's not even that drastic and 2. half the hardware available can only manage it by faking it with upscaling.
wow Gankerirgins and twitter cuck leftists agree: NFT IS BAD BECAUSE IT JUST IS OK
All speculative assets are bad anon. All of them. That includes NFTs
any examples of nfts that arent rugpulls?
didnt think so.
Sometimes blatant scams are blatant scams regardless of political orientation, anon. You won't trick anyone into eating shit because 'look leftists HATE eating shit, you should really eat shit to own them!'
All the homosexuals in this thread who are just baiting for (You)s are actually right
Gaming WILL turn into work in the future. Zoomers are already conditioned to only play games for the grind. If you can't earn achievements, loot, xp etc. they think they are wasting their time with a game
Zoomers don't play games for fun anymore
I am superior to all the braindead cucks on this board.
It probably has some games that are comparable to modern GaaS shit, so who cares.