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There's nothing to get, the director and artistic director made up girls in hot/cute outfits and thought people would want context for why they look the way they do. So they made a generic Japanese game around those designs, sprinkled some barebones plot about, idk, some faff about the human spirit or some gay shit to appease the loregays and said hey its good to go now lets wait for the secondaries and people that played it without caring about the story to make porn about the waifus.
And it worked.
this. its a weeb game shilled by coomers in denial. sage btw
fippy bippy
%3D
Most people skip the true final boss too.
You can really tell that people like
Literally only bought the game because they saw porn first. Lol. Taro made his audience the medium for his message and it's hilarious. There's even the line midway through the game that jokes about the player by saying "you're thinking about how you want to **** 2b, aren't you?"
It's satire of sexualization. Yoko taro finds this kind of stuff funny. Drakengard 3 does the exact same thing with its over the top sexuality.
>There's even the line midway through the game that jokes about the player by saying "you're thinking about how you want to **** 2b, aren't you?"
>2017+7 and anons still don't get the **** line
1. it's the 'joke' / shock moment of the game accusing (you) of wanting to frick her
2. it's a foreshadow / reveal of how 9S wants to kill her
3. 9S actually wants to do both
Automata is a love story starring a woman forcing herself to be autistic and the most dangerous murderhobo on the planet.
He does this kind of meta speaking to both the player and the player character beautifully. If you love this moment then replicant is truly on another level because it's full of them. The game gaslights you, lies to you, makes jokes in your face that the characters recognize, and just in general breaks the fourth wall constantly to keep you questioning what the frick is happening. It makes it so good on a replay too.
>player is aware nier didn't age in 1400 years and is perpetually confused by this their whole playthrough after the fakeout intro
>route 2 opens with nier accusing popola of "you haven't aged a day. What's your secret?" Both out of suspicion, and a joking flirty tone. She smoothtalks her way out of it by playing into the latter.
>same thing with emil later, who shrugs it off by saying "oh I'm just special like that don't worry about it"
>makes the player feel like a schizo on a first playthrough and makes them question everything about this dreamlike world
>on a second playthrough, foreshadows the twist that the world is fake and ruled by android overseers taking care of the flesh sacks for when the masters return
It's such an emotional rollercoaster. You can't fricking tell what the frick is happening on a first playthrough, just that something is VERY wrong. And then on a second playthrough, you're just filled with dread as you recognize all this foreshadowing you overlooked before.
God I love replicant. Such a better game than automata tbh.
I always thought Replicant/Gestalt was better, too. In truth, while Automata is more fun to play than the original NieR, its gotta be one of the less enjoyable stories that Taro had a hand in.
The last few minutes of this scene will probably stick with me forever. It's the eeriest I've ever felt in a game. The fade to black, 1400 years later, nothing has changed, and then that absolutely dreamlike soundtrack kicks in.
It is so unsettling. I remember standing in nier's house on my first playthrough and just taking it in going "woah..."
Probably the most bizarre moment you can encounter in gaming. From there, you have no fricking clue what the game will do next, yet it also somehow paradoxically makes perfect sense in hindsight.
how is the player aware that nier hasn't aged a day?
the more natural assumption is that they boy and girl are reincarnations of the nier and yonah
On my first playthrough I thought they sold their souls by touching the book. I think most people probably all thought wildly different theories the first time, and most of us were probs wrong.
you just set gamers trillions of years back in their well earned reputation of being unable to understand art
yoko taro obviously has a vision about the philosophy of the series beyond 2b having a fat ass and short skirt
>yoko taro obviously has a vision about the philosophy of the series
Nope, it's a product made to generate money to justify him and his team's employment to Square
You don't give away your character to soulless crossovers and ask fans to send you porn of your characters if you had any kind of artistic integrity to speak of.
Nier Automata is a series for coomers, by a coomer and there's nothing wrong with that, but Taro isn't an artist or philosopher, he's making products to appeal to the masses.
Honestly, I think Automata is greatly overrated. Sure, it plays the best on release, hands down, but the plot didn't stand on its own the way that Drakengard 1, Drakengard 3, and NieR did.
Somewhat ironically, I feel that while this is a perfectly acceptable and even an enjoyable game, it has even less soul than even Drakengard 2.
Art of 2B that isn't lewd is like a needle in a haystack, it's rare but good.
I honestly never got the attraction to 2B. I understand its for plot reasons, but her personality is just a giant fricking void a large amount of the time. I feel towards her similarly to how the devs of Drakengard 1 feel towards Furiae.
Love them or hate them, Kaine and A2 have actual personalities.
No, I mean he directly asked people for 2B porn
https://nichegamer.com/nier-automata-creator-yoko-taro-responds-to-protagonist-butt-controversy/
Based. This only improves his standing. He doubled down instead of backpedaling.
Yes, it proves he is a Ganker-tier coomer, but pretending that there's any philosophy behind his works is moronic
What're your thoughts on how the game directly comments on 2b's sexualization and even incorporates it into 9s's story?
My thoughts are that it happened and it resulted in a lot of porn being made
if you position the camera in a certain way, you can make it look like 2B's anus is showing
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I'm not a fan of Nier Automata, but this man is based beyond belief. We need more people like him in the industry.
>Reductionist moron refuses to post games he found engaging for fear of being ripped apart by the vapid, cynical waste of oxygen he is
El classico.
>coomers in denial
I'm a coomer who got the game for 2B alone and it ended up changing my outlook on a lot of things. Definitely one of the most impactful pieces of media I have consumed. Not saying it is inherently conducive to that, mind you, seeing others discuss it makes it pretty apparent that I engaged with the themes in a different way than most, and it also caught me at a very particular time in my life where it made more difference.
Also has one of the best OSTs I've ever heard, and I'm seriously considering buying the official score book.
You take what you can from it, just like with anything else. If you can't take anything from it then it is what it is. I can say I almost stopped playing after reaching the first ending.
Gameplay is mediocre at best, but I like that it is game, and I don't think I've ever said that in my life.
Automata is more than the sum of its parts. It's the kind of game that proves games can be art.
It must be experienced in a more personal and spiritual way than your average game to be fully understood, hence why there are so many people who call it existentialism for babies.
Makes sense tho, Gankertards are so eager to self insert in AAA slops with homosexual/troony characters so they can cry on veee, but would never dare to self insert their own persona in a story that implies the player's existence has a big part in.
it's literally pearl harbor wikipage but +200 years and americans are all either women or twinkcucks
this cover art is such a banger
the giant Pod 042/153 wreckage 2B's standing on ruins it for me
god toobie looks so bad without the blindfold
It's simply a bad game with very ugly art and mediocre music. Midwit-b8 in other words, for those of provincial senses
>mediocre music
that's too much credit
Babbs first college philosophy class that makes them feel le-smart + ass
It's basically just like SH2 which is babbs first high school Le-purgatory metaphor
7/10 at best game
I am the smartest person on this planet.
This game is perfect for babies and "people" who never read books.
With love.
Anonymous.
What don't you get? The events of the game, the overall moral, the themes, or what?
life is le meaningless
moron, the game is about existentialism, the philosophy of finding your own meaning.
>babby's first philosophy course
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Just like life, the meaning and value of it is dictated by what you yourself choose to place upon it.
Has anyone ever described why this is a midwit/not a midwit game? Or do people just post words?
Yes, you simply cannot read or think.
4turders complain about western games because it has feminism and such, but japanese games are also bad too because hurr durr everyone plays it only for 2b ass, while ignoring the fundamental concept of robots fighting for a dead cause, the search for each person's meaning in the world, the fragility of life, the value of kindness. 2b ass is just the cherry on top, these might not be groundbreaking ideas to explore but they are done much better than western shove in your face attitude
its the other way around moron. 2b ass is what brought the game down to coomer trash, and its by design per taros words. if he wanted it to be taken seriously he wouldnt have made 2b or any of the androids the way they are.
But to put it simply in the ultimate tl;dr way:
Nier Automata's a game that celebrates both humanity and the history of the video games.
The entire game of NA serves as a dark reflection of our own flaws and cycles of violence, illustrating how miscommunication and outdated beliefs can control our lives and the actions of humanity. How the original meaning of ancient memes may have been forgotten long ago, yet the process itself may still survive and have become a new cause.
It warns of the harmful path we may be heading towards and highlights the irony of advanced artificial beings worshipping humans and repeating our mistakes.
The game's meta aspect deepens the message by portraying artificial beings trapped in a fictional media created by humans, unable to escape their programming and stuck in a cycle of death and rebirth. The game's integration of its UI and settings as a part of the androids' own bodies and world view adds another layer of immersion and understanding.
Yet no matter of all these cynical and nihilistic themes and portrayals of suffering, the game manages to end on a surprisingly optimistic note. It demonstrates that change is possible, it just requires a potentially painful first step. A strong desire for change. And the way this choice is portrayed is something only the true video game enjoyers could appreciate or even begin to understand.
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don't read too much into it man, the devs clearly didnt
>don't read too much into it man
I did. And I will. And you should do so as well.
Nier Automata is a modern piece of art, that utilizes the gaming's unique, immersive interactive nature to its fullest.
It was a beautiful, truly life changing experience that we get way too seldom this day and age.
NA single handedly restored my faith in big-budget games. Ironic, seeing how it was a "low budget" game by the modern AAA standards.
>professional shitposter
let him cook
>Honest to god opinions with detailed text NOT written on a fricking iPhone count as "shitposts" to zoom zooms
Literally the main problem of current year.
And a perfect allegory for the game's themes of miscommunication and misunderstood past memes spiraling out of control.
>And a perfect allegory for the game's themes of miscommunication
Nier Replicant/Gestalt were about miscommunication. Automata has its own thing going on.
>Automata has its own thing going on
that is rooted to Replicant, and continued / expanded in the form of the typical Androids shunning Yorha, Yorha keeping secrets, Androids hating Machines, and Machines even despising other Machines not part of the Network.
Anon is right about the 'past memes spiraling out of control' bit, though, even if it's only a side theme. Less about misunderstanding each other and more about misunderstanding our past, getting the wrong ideas about history and why people of the past did what they did, etc
Poo
more like you didn't even try to think and you try to justify that laziness with an excuse.
automata's ending E was so good they reused and ruined it in kh3
That’s cool and all but the worldbuilding, the characters and their interactions sucked so I didn’t care.
>the worldbuilding, the characters and their interactions sucked
They didn't. They're easily some of the most memorable and actually deep creations in gaming history.
Nah they aren’t
Incorrect.
N1's characters and world are damn straight forward. Plus the last half's pacing sucks, as does having to replay the SAME HALF again and again.
>Yet no matter of all these cynical and nihilistic themes and portrayals of suffering, the game manages to end on a surprisingly optimistic note.
You're not quite getting it.
The game is a blowout critique of humanist philosophy. The "we're the universe experiencing itself" sorta bullshit.
It's not cynical but it ends optimistically, it's about you quite literally killing cynical philosophers like Sartre from beginning to end.
It is the videogame equivalent of making a meme where your philosophical opinion is depicted as the chad, while your opposites are depicted as the virgins.
And it's pretty sick.
babby's first existential crisis
Humans are basically gods to Androids and Machines started worshipping them to.
In their attempt to become as gods (human), they keep fricking up because they are inherently not like humans. They have to develop their own cultures and values first. Every attempt to be human has resulted in disaster.
terrible game to play after a breakup tbqhf
Big white ass is only thing I can think when I hear this game and its enough for me to "get it". Ive yet to play it though
you might be moronic because nier is not deep at all
just read the myth of sisyphus and don't bother trying to piece together taro's shitty lore
I was impressed with it for the first two hours, maybe a little more. Then it dawned on me that the game practically gives you infinite healing potions and you're virtually unkillable. That rendered the whole thing pointless. The narrative or story is a 10 year olds attempt at being thought provoking. I can see how it works on ugly guys who have never gotten laid or can only get laid with dudes or fat chics. I think this game is popular because of coomer obsession with 2B.
A jap game could have the most basic ass story in the world and someone will still make a post about how the devs didn't bother making a story, or that they didn't understand it themselves, anything to dismiss it.
welcome to Ganker anything that is popular will get shit on no matter what
even dragons doggy shitposting has skyrocketed
yeah I've been avoiding dragon's dogma threads like the plague. I can only imagine what they're like after the massive influx of popularity over the years.
Ganker is nothing if not contrarian.
The real humanity was inside us all along.
The only game that turns Ganker posters suddenly into philosophers. It's always a good time.
>The only game that turns Ganker posters suddenly into philosophers
Don't you guys say that to literally every game you undermine though? If you don't understand it, someone explaining it to you is a philosopher.
Nevermind the fact that philosophy is meant to be understood to even the most basic person and breaks everything down into easily read chunks.
>game revolves around philosophy to the point where all the robots are named after philosophers
>people talk about philosophy when discussing the game
whoa no way
Does everyone who shits on this game over "muh philosophy" just turn it off as soon as 2B stopped talking in the intro?
They see that some machines like Egel and Pascal are named after philosophers, get angry about it for some reason, then call the game shit for DARING to mention philosophy in even the most shallow ways.
The point is, Machines trying to replicate human philosophy is a mistake.
p sure they just like shitting on weebs who pretend this isnt a coomer game first and foremost
>coomer game
>you play as the big booty girl for like 1/3 of it
As a lover of irony i find it very amusing when USA mutts ( not all of them but the soulless mutt golem) cannot identify with the yorha and grasp the desire to get closer to the creator and obtain more of the divine.
americans living rent free in your favela mind despite more americans believing in God than everyone else
Would you be as riled up and projecting in such an insecure manner if it was not the truth.
Yoko Taro: Philosophy is just another form of programming, it's no substitute for personal experience.
>I don't get it, shitty jap game, they didn't even bother with a story or message, I was too distracted by 2B's ass.
>anon's Priest is Yoko Taro
the absolute STATE of nier-troons LMFAO
I guess understanding something means you worship it now. You must be an athiest.
ahahahahahahahaha
>complains about not being taken seriously
>plasters a fat ass on screen 24/7
If the devs don't take their creation seriously neither will I.
Hack and slash bullet hell. That's it
Sexy robots (I'm talking about 9S btw).
>this fricking thread
I knew you had to be fricked in the head to post here but this is too much even for me
>don't play the prequel
>don't understand the story
Many such cases lol. The entire second half is a nier reference and you're going to miss EVERYTHING hinted at, such as emil being the basis for the machines so you were actually just killing emil the whole time, kaine and nier being the basis for YoRhA androids, 9s and a2 being nier and kaine reincarnated, and more. The final boss you fight is confirmed to be a digital copy of the original gestalt in the note you receive after the credits from jackass, and the entire tower and fabricated city comes from the aliens discovering and reutilizing the memory tree from nier.
Plus, you miss all the amazing callbacks like emil's cave with kaine's shack, the weapon stories and weapons being passed down through the games, and a bunch more like how every lunar tier on the map was grown by emil or nier in memory of their friends.
If it sounds schizo, it's because you are literally missing half the experience lmfao. Automata is literally built from the ground up to go hand in hand with replicant and it's themes of identity, so if you don't play replicant/gestalt, then you'll only see it for the waifu coomerbait in 2b like so many other people before you.
Play replicant before asking questions. Everything is answered. And read the fricking documents you get I swear so many people skip over the "Machine Research Report" that jackass gives you, that literally EXPLAINS the ending to your face, and then wonder what the story meant.
It's because you didn't read. You didn't read and you started a series on the second entry. Lol.
Automata's themes are only deep if you're not a waifugay who skipped the first game. This is the true filter. What it means to be human after coming out of a game where you literally systemically slaughtered each and every human soul left on earth and earned the title of "World Destroyer" hits hard.
Quit skipping games in series morons. The themes build on each other.
Nothing you said in your 1st paragraph is actually true.
It's retconed into being true by the new ending added replivant, ending E. The administrators of the entire Android program literally sample kaine and immediately start producing Android clones of her. It's whackinf you over the head as hard as it can that the androids are based on at least kaine, and also probably nier after he is reborn.
Ending E is a prequel to automata and literally rehires the voice actors of 2b and 9s and gives you the ui of automata while playing lol.
The rest isn't contentious and is straight fact. The only doubtful claim is whether the androids are all based on kaine and 9s, but even that was blatantly obvious by the time of automata. Just look at the fricker lol like cmon.
Everything else is confirmed in side content, misc documents, or other supplemental material to the games. Especially the all machines are emil bit; that's literally the reward for 100%ing automata and fighting the final emil boss is getting that reveal.
Did people even play these games or what? I swear everyone rushed through them as fast as possible and skipped over every sidequest just to coom to 2b.
>you needed to play the game that came out after Automata to appreciate Automata
nah
It came out before automata, as did ending E since it was first released in a novella in the 2010s. The remaster came out after and also changed ending E to be more in line with replicant, but automata was ALWAYS meant to be a followup to both nier gestalt/replicant, and the grimoire noir Canon book.
>It's retconed into being true by the new ending added replivant, ending E
Ending E isn't new per se. It was one of the various side materials that was sold after nier's release.
>kaine and nier being the basis for YoRhA androids, 9s and a2 being nier and kaine reincarnated, and more.
This is bullshit.
>every lunar tier on the map was grown by emil or nier in memory of their friends.
This is bullshit.
>The administrators of the entire Android program literally sample kaine and immediately start producing Android clones of her.
The admins are admins of the gestalt terminal, they have absolutely nothing to do with the production of androids.
>androids are based on at least kaine, and also probably nier after he is reborn.
This is bullshit.
>Especially the all machines are emil bit
why are you talking as if the machines are literally Emil? They just copied his shape because they thought it would be an effective fighting tactic, the game never makes a big deal of this so I don't know why you're acting as if it's some major twist.
This is all you right? This is extreme autism.
Not as autistic as replying to every post I made. Thanks for the (you).
And it's basically canon after the remake. Did you even play ending E? Kaine is literally mechanically cloned in the ending by the administrators? What do you think the point of that was?
The other stuff is in the emil quest so idk wtf you're talking about. You mustn't have completed automata.
>Not as autistic as replying to every post I made.
I think there's a lot more in this thread than those but thanks for being at least partially honest.
>Kaine is literally mechanically cloned
The admin creates some robots that mimic Kaine and sends them to attack her as entertainment. They are all destroyed during the ending, and that's literally all there is to it. You are basing the idea that Kaine is connected to the androids on a bad fan theory that came about over a summary translation of YoRHa 1.2.
You missed about 2 of my other posts. Aside from that, my only other posts were arguing with the masochistic moron who plays games he doesn't enjoy. Not even my thread I just love this series and sperg out whenever there's a chance to discuss it.
I think the implication of the ending is that the administrators of the tree are absorbed into the machine network. That's spelled out in the Machine Research Report. And the machines are able to create yorha androids in automata when they make the 2b clones.
I think it's implied heavily that the machines and yorha are intermingled and possibly even have the same people behind each. The entire tower is literally just an expanded memory tree and that was canon in automata before the remake. It's the last reveal you get when you read the document.
The game doesn't directly say it but I think it's fair to argue that it's heavily implied yorha was influenced by the replicant gang you play with in nier 1. They're the only replicants with white hair, but every yorha android has white hair.
Outside of the games, the 3d modeler designer for automata says he specifically bases the designs of automata off adult nier because he wanted the game to thematically feel like a sequel. It's where the black clothing, frills, white hair, and blindfolds (papa nier) come from. I think he also said in the same interview that he never played the original nier though, so lol.
Irl they're literally based on the design of nier. In-game, it's more speculative yeah. But 9s is a literal doppelganger for young nier and I think that's a telling bit of visual storytelling.
>I think the implication of the ending is that the administrators of the tree are absorbed into the machine network
The gestalt terminal certainly was, but the admin was destroyed and possibly salvaged by the Cage.
>the machines and yorha are intermingled and possibly even have the same people behind each
The machines are observing YoRHa but have no influence in their creation. They were created by Zinnia with the project being taken over by the Army of Humanity + Pod units after his death on Labo.
>They're the only replicants with white hair, but every yorha android has white hair.
There are plenty of YoRHa that don't have white hair. White hair is just character trait Taro likes, Zero has white hair, Rion, Gayle, Griff, Noelle and Yurie all have white hair, it means nothing. The only time I can think of where hair colour has had any real significance in a Taro work is in Beasts of Burden where white Hair+red eyes is a trait passed on to the underground people by the Forebear.
The machines have backdoor access to yorha and appear to be cooperating with whoever is administering the program, though, since both yorha and the machines play a role in the space base being destroyed by the red eyes virus. And they can directly create yorha units when they create 2b clones to fight 9s
Are there yorha without white hair? The only one that comes to mind is the commander with her blonde hair. Every other yorha android I remember seeing had white. The earth androids aren't yorha and are outdated models.
>The machines have backdoor access to yorha and appear to be cooperating with whoever is administering the program
The machines gain access to the bunker because number nine built the backdoor for that purpose. The pods are the ones directly overseeing the project and have no interest in working with the machines.
>And they can directly create yorha units when they create 2b clones to fight 9s
They have access to her data after they take over the bunker, adam and eve are far more complex than YoRHa androids so recreating 2B is easily within their capabilities.
>Are there yorha without white hair?
All the operators are blonde. Generic YoRHa are shown with brown/black/pink/red hair in the game and anime. No.4's hair was more of a grey, No.16 was dark blue and No.21 was brown. 4S and half of M squad had black hair.
Is this from the gacha shit?
The machines absorbing the gestalt terminal is in Automata, that's what the copied city is. The admin waking up in (what's probably) the Cage is from a new novella that came out with Replicant 1.22, The Lost World Appendix.
https://accords-library.com/contents/the-lost-world-appendix-ver-1-22
Thanks for actually engaging anon this series is fricking fascinating when people actually decide to talk about it outside of 2b's ass.
I love how so much of the lore is spread out across different mediums. It really feels like the games never stop and there's always more to learn. I never checked out the stuff with the original 9 but I've heard it's good. I loved reading grimoire noir back when I was a kid.
Thanks for the sources and info.
>I never checked out the stuff with the original 9
You can read the concert version on the ark website, It's the story called Project YoRHa. I would recommend buying the YoRHa Boys novel as the prologue of the novel is an adaption of the Project YoRHa story with more detail.
https://theark.wiki/w/NieR_Music_Concert:_The_Memories_of_Puppets
>Where did it even begin?
The Cataclysm that sent the Cathedral City from the Kingdom of Night to Midgard is where it started, the shift damaged the timeline and caused the paradox.
>The Cataclysm that sent the Cathedral City from the Kingdom of Night to Midgard is where it started,
source? I had no idea cathedral city was from kingdom of night
Not that anon but I'd assume it has to be just because that's also where dragons and other stuff are confirmed to be developed in automata. I don't believe cathedral city is ever namedropped in automata though so I'm not sure if it's confirmed. It's just canon that the kingdom of night made dragons, which means they're also probably related to cathedral city.
https://nier.fandom.com/wiki/Kingdom_of_Night#cite_note-NA_6230-8
Interestingly enough, the original nier changes the location of where it's taking place depending on your console's region setting: the intro will show buildings from New York, Tokyo, and a few other prominent places depending on what your timezone is set as. I always took that as there's no definitive canon location on where all this magic shit is taking place. And I don't think the developers are putting too much thought into geographic locations because of that.
>source? I had no idea cathedral city was from kingdom of night
I personally remember reading it here but can't find the post, but this person provides sources so it anyone other than me can be bothered there will be a source.
https://firesanctuary.com/
I'm always thought that Cathedral City was just a wrecked Tokyo thrown back in time. Angelus and Caim travel through time with the Goddess and wind up in Tokyo, where it promptly becomes ground zero for WCS.
can't be tokyo, Kingdom of Night covers the Americas side of earth.
I've never heard that the Cathedral City came from the City of Night.
I'm not calling you a liar, just telling you why it was my assumption.
It looks like I'm mistaken, the only link between the kingdom and the city is being "related" in terms of the time jump, nothing about the city being from night specifically.
https://firesanctuary.com/blog/what-we-know-about-the-kingdom-of-night/
where can I read a translated 1.3 anywhere?
>where can I read a translated 1.3 anywhere?
I can't remember where I found a VERY incomplete translation, but I'm hoping that a translated version will be included with the special edition of Drakengard 4, or that they just translate it and sell it separately like they did with Grimoire Nier.
From /tarog/
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1EQgIx0uv6MMsXClKgdZdgwLze8urV12P
I always thought this too. It struck me as being a self contained timeloop before automata came and made the timeline more complex. Like the ground zeros for ending e directly led back into the world of drakengard. The ending being called "truth" definitely makes it feel like there's meant to be something there on its own, and that it's more than just a joke ending. Even when self contained on its own, the ending is extremely unsettling and feels like something bad just happened.
>They have access to her data after they take over the bunker, adam and eve are far more complex than YoRHa androids so recreating 2B is easily within their capabilities.
I always wonder how close adam and eve are to true humans. The machines have the gestalt terminal, so they presumably have access to gestalt data, and their "birth" scene where the machines create an artificial womb looks strikingly organic. They even bleed red blood. It'd be funny I think if the machines recreated a true perfect human only for androids to immediately attack them thinking its a machine.
>The gestalt terminal certainly was, but the admin was destroyed and possibly salvaged by the Cage.
Is this from the gacha shit? I haven't played it lol. Waiting for a real nier 3.
What event is this referencing? Sounds cool. I like the lore of the mobile game but the game itself is ass.
"Since a previous title exists, my first resolution was to create the model in a way that seems like the two worlds of Nier and Nier: Automata are connected (and by doing so, receiving forgiveness from fans of the previous title)
I first thought about what the charm of the model from that previous title was. After studying it, I realised there’s a fragile beauty to it, a doll-like form that feels like it could easily break."
https://blog.playstation.com/2017/04/03/an-exclusive-look-at-the-creation-of-2b-by-nier-automatas-character-modeller/
Save your breath. Schoolshooters and FromSoft gays that are all about FIGHT, FIGHT, KILL and take issue with reading, like, they need to spend brainpower to do it when it should come just as natural as breathing, should just stick with FPS or Dodge-Poke Souls.
Keep them out if you want to keep your shit intact.
what don't you get?
Life is meaningless. Thus you create your own purpose, through love. Your spirit may live in other forms, like that stream of data thing in the end. That's it.
>Automata is 7 years old
Play replicant. The game doesn't make sense if you don't.
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Game makes perfect sense you will just miss out on a couple of references and technically it spoils the twist of the original Nier. Ending E of Replicant assumes you played Automata anyway.
The best order would be Nier > Automata > Replicant.
Why did literally every motherfricker who played this game skip over the document the ending gives you?
https://nier.fandom.com/wiki/Machine_Research_Report
If you can't understand the story, then the game literally spoonfeeds it to you in a text document. Read it.
The funny thing about yoko taro games is that unlike most games, he actually puts story crucial elements into his sidequests, so the games make zero sense unless you 100% complete them. Drakengard did it, nier did it, and automata did it even better.
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If you only play the main quest, you miss absolutely crucial bits of information, such as how emil was the original line of defense against the aliens, and not the androids. They literally made their machine network by copying his duplication ability and it's why all the machines have round ball heads like emil, and also have emil's grimace under their exposed armor.
It automatically filters coomers because the coomers spent more time upskirting 2b than completing quests.
Automata is a game that gets better the closer you are to 100%.
I can't think of a single side quest in the original Nier that added anything to the story. Drakengard doesn't have side quests.
There's literally side quests that unlock crucial story sidequests for the second half if you skip them in the first.
If you don't do the facade quests then you'll miss out on unlocking one in the second act that reveals that shades are infiltrating human societies: the girl you rescue for facade in one of the part 1 quests later comes back to invade the village.
There's more crucial sidequests too like the lighthouse lady showing replicants having blatant human emotions, and then there's also ones like the Facade king's mask quest which directly foreshadows the twist by having him drop the line of "the legends say shades are kings that tried to extend their lives in days of old. Why would the old kings choose to become monsters like that"?
There's a ton more. There's so many good aidequests they're just sprinkled next to troll ones like the sidequest that literally scams you and then leaves town (which is actually a really good and funny quest, tbh).
The ones that are good are fricking amazing. The ones that are bad often have some sort of meta joke for why they're bad.
I just don't agree tbh. Did you play the lighthouse lady quest? That's the quest that sold me on this game. It's one of the saddest quests in all of gaming and it has a beautiful song to go with it.
I'm not reading all that shit but there's not a single quest in Nier worth doing.
>I'm not reading all that shit
Bet the forest of myth filtered you too. Yoko literally dedicated a part of the game towards making fun of people who don't read, funnily enough.
F I L T E R E D
You're a pretentious homosexual but keep slurping up Taro's fart gas.
You're in a nier thread, buddy. What were you expecting? Feel free to not shit up the thread for once so people can actually, yknow, talk about the game?
Every single time....
You're the only person posting paragraphs about the game lmao enjoy your shit thread.
I love drakengard and nier I just think you're a fricking moron.
I don't think you really love them lol. It sounds like you went through the games seething and bursting at the seams with anger, which like, I don't really get why you would?
Most people who beat the games fully actually enjoyed them you know LOL I don't know why you forced yourself through games you didn't enjoy. I fricking loved the tedium of the games they were great. They're features, not bugs.
At least I don't go through my life as angry as you. Can't be good for the heart.
I don't give a shit what you think.
They're worth doing just to hear grimoire weiss complain about how tedious they are to the player. It's a game about camaraderie.
And also drakengard requires 100% completion to unlock ending E. I didn't mean to say there were side quests. Just that it requires 100% for a full understanding. If you don't have all weapons you can't fight the final boss and unlock the truth route.
Why are you talking to me like I haven't 100% Drakengard before. Frick you and frick all the timed flying missions to unlock weapons. homosexual.
This one is remake exclusive but holy frick is it kink. The white text on a black background with that soundtrack while nier cries over the normalcy of getting to eat dinner with a family again is just too much.
It's such a simple reward but it's infinitely more human and meaningful than any power up macguffin or le deep lore a game could drop on you.
Replicant's quests are Kino but people really ought to play the remake instead lately. It makes the drag through the unfun parts a lot more bearable so you can just appreciate the good quests like this.
You know in hindsight, it's weird that despite knowing about the machine lifeforms being reminiscent of Emil and even getting to the part in your picture, it never once occurred to make the connection that the aliens actually modelled the machine lifeforms off of Emil
you know a lot of people talk about pretentious game directors
and ive had time to think about it
what makes Yoko Taro and Hideo Kojima different from guys like
Neil Druckmann and Randy Pitchford
is there is an aspect of sincerity in their writing.
western directors feel the need to subvert the audience
or just fill their games with mindless nonsense to distract from their flaws in the writing
but the japs just allow the flaws to speak for themselves
and that gives the writing character.
sex with 9S
holy samegay thread
Why must everything I love always have a fricking moron schizo posting about it.
Because you love franchises made by schizophrenics.
kek he's talking to himself
I'm posting about a game I enjoy. It's less autistic than being a 12 year old f5ing a Ganker thread giggling at the idea of getting to type one more troll post.
Why are you even reading if you're this upset? I'm going to keep talking about this game and you can waste your day typing a response every time if you want. It doesn't really affect me and it isn't going to stop me, lol.
City of commerce.... home....
Kino soul. Amazing soundtrack.
This one sounds way better in the remake
I like remake city of commerce but a lot of the rest of the soundtrack sounds washed out. The junk heap theme is a lot better in the original.
It's a tragedy they play this track without vocals in the game. It's beautiful.
"Yuvravai iv posegoli nyako pasavir
Nistramai no unda darai chi
Otrasai eh pois sechesin dake etra nier
Nogireiimsalajineinya"
It's so cool that the devola and popola gibberish angelic singing namedrops the title and the protagonist. Makes it feel epic. Can't tell what they're saying, but the "nier" always stands out.
how do you fricking save?
You save at terminals or in the quick menu if you're in range of an activated terminal.
thank you. I know I could've looked it up but I wanted to get the answer straight from ACTUAL GAMERS. Now reinstalling.
>automata androids create dragons in the kingdom of night
>also heavily implied to create accord
>dragons appear sporadically in medieval Europe in drakengard
>nier world sends dragons to drakengard world, which sends dragons to nier world, which....
The entire series is a time loop of two alternate timelines trying to nuke each other with magic and it's so fricking cool. Where did it even begin?
I hope the next game touches on all of this.
I really like how the last line of the credits - and the game itself - is "Have we been fighting in vain? Fighting in vain." Really ties it all together.
Dude slaughtered the human race to save his sister. Goes hard.
>that scene where nier slaughters a room full of babies while their mother begs him to stop
What the frick yoko
Stuff like this reads like a shitpost. But then you play the game and it actually happens.
How the frick did he get this one past censors?
I like how nier does infinitely worse shit than caim, yet comes across as a better person. He's such a great foil to drakengard 1 and caim. He does killing because he thinks he's right and justfied in doing it, and that makes him capable of more evil than someone who just enjoys murder.
Yeah, the difference was that Nier believed he was sacrificing himself to make the world a better place, when in actuality the dude was unwittingly committing genocide and was viewed by the shades as an absolute monster, going so far as to kill baby shades.
Caim knew better. His rage at the empire for losing his parents knew no bounds. He would sacrifice literally everything and everyone if it meant he got to kill off the Empire.
Of course, by the end of Ending A, he did kind of soften up, and instead of killing Manah, just mentally tortured her by dragging her everywhere and letting the common folk physically and mentally abuse her. Tame by his standards, but still monstrous.
This is what truly makes nier 1 special.
First playthrough: the player feels like a disgruntled silent hero on a generic jrpg quest to save the world.
Second playthrough: the player questions themselves and wonder how they could've ever rooted for someone so fricked up. You sympathize with him immensely after following him along, but you come to view him as both an evil person, and an absolute idiot.
Kaine and nier are some of the worst people in the series. Especially kaine. But you cannot help but love them.
>generic jrpg quest to save the world.
I actually disagree with that, but keep in mind that I played through as Papa Nier in my first playthrough, and I very much saw him as doing everything he did not for the world, but for his daughter.
I suppose if you were looking at Bro Nier, there might be a bit more of what you're talking about, and I'm not saying you're wrong, only that Papa Nier really does give a different perspective.
It was honestly REALLY enjoyable to have a JRPG that focused on parenthood. Of course, at the time I had no idea that wasn't the "official" timeline, but more of a variation specifically meant to get Westerners more invested.
I love papa nier so much but it really doesn't hit as hard in the timeskip tbh. Seeing nier go from a boy to a man just hits so hard.
Papa will always be amazing and I really wish they made him dlc in the remake. At least there's mods to add him in.
>I love papa nier so much but it really doesn't hit as hard in the timeskip tbh
I honestly chalked that up to a lack of resources, honestly. Like they wanted to show him all scarred up, but basically they didn't have the time or resources to do much, so they just put an eyepatch over his eye to show that the dude was going into the most dangerous areas he could find to try and get his daughter, and lost an eye.
I'm not saying that this is the truth of the matter, just my head canon, supported by all the cut content from that game. Like, they didn't even add it the weapon stories until the remake. You only got them if you purchased Grimoire Nier and translated them.
Yeah the original nier felt very incomplete. I'm glad they got a second chance with the remake. The extra dungeon and boss with the mermaid content really helps flesh it out too.
Agreed. You're alright, anon. Hope you like the next Drakengard game.
Gotta Save Yona!
Yonahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
Here, I got you this cookie.
They were attacking him, it was self-defense.
This game was the biggest blue balls for me. The intro was amazing, with the changes in perspective, the combat, the massive rig boss and then BAM, it turns into a sandslop game. What a piece of shit.
It has a few more changes in perspective if you keep going. It introduces a 2d shooter minigame that becomes a core part of the combat game play loop. There's also one boss that is pretty cool in that it's the biggest one in the entire game, and after you kill it it's corpse is left behind in the background as a permanent map setpiece.
the simultaneous threads up of people not understanding both the nier lore and the ffxiv lore are a very entertaining dive into how Ganker is gone
>and the ffxiv lore
you have no right talking about Ganker being gone, troon
im single handedly playing ffxiv just so i can confirm my belief that the story sucks, the fact is though in the other thread anons cant even comprehend the story
weak bait heres a pity (you)
thanks
Nier: Automata is about /ss/ and its consequences.
This game sucked so much. Controls are terrible, camera is terrible, combat is repetitive and boring. I regret buying it on discount.
ty tarogay sneedposter I appreciate your effortrants.
I cannot let this thread die please keep schizoposting fellow 2btroons
If we're gonna schizopost, then I find Taro's mirroring of pacts later on in the series quite interesting. The animation is almost identical to the black box destruction in automata, which is cool. I think thematically this shows that black boxes are the equivalent of souls.
Coincidentally, black boxes also have identical texturing to shades: gestaltified human souls. This all feels very intentional and he's probably trying to tell us something with this, but I'm not sure what.
The pact nier makes with tyrann in ending d of nier also feels very reminiscent of the pacts of drakengard 1: he sacrifices his existence to save kaine and his soul is literally erased from existence.
I'm not sure what he meant by all this.
Aren't the black boxes built from machines though?
And the machines are just Emil disambiguated selves?
The black boxes are built from machines, yeah. Perhaps that's why they're both conscious: they come from the same source.
Only YorHa androids are built with recycled black boxes, though. The reveal that says that specifically says they did that because project yorha would be "too cruel for a conscious being". As far as I'm aware, the regular androids on earth don't have black boxes.
The machines though, canonically get their human consciousness from the shade Kalil, who nier murders in nier 1.
https://nier.fandom.com/wiki/The_Fire_of_Prometheus
Humans made the robot beepy to defend the junk heap before their extinction and Kalil becomes friends with him after his mom is murdered by replicants. They spend years being friends with each other and it eventually leads to beepy evolving consciousness. He cries when you kill Kalil and him in replicant.
Beepy goes on to eventually rebuild himself after thousands of years, and he has a chance encounter with the machines where he hacks into them and gives them the gift of consciousness. Hence "The Fire of Prometheus". Essentially the machines learned consciousness through indirect contact with a human boy's soul.
"Due to the bizarre interface, it takes a whole 4 seconds for us to make our way in, but somehow we do. Inside the wide, vacant expanse of its memory field, the only thing inputted is a stark, simplistic command. It was as wasteful as placing a single chair in the middle of an enormous room. And it was so much like looking at our old selves, it made us feel embarrassed and ashamed.
We softly touch the program trembling in the deep darkness.
“LET-US-LIVE.”
That was the revelation we had received, and the awareness we granted. We made our way through the battlefield, delivering all the automatons we encountered."
If you follow the fantheory that machines are emil, I think what this is implying is that the aliens hijacked emil's original programming and repurposed his copies/technology for their own cause. The specific line of
>Due to the bizarre interface, it takes a whole 4 seconds for us to make our way in, but somehow we do. Inside the wide, vacant expanse of its memory field, the only thing inputted is a stark, simplistic command.
Is really telling because emil and his sister both also had a single command in their programming, and it's a theme that's touched upon in replicant repeatedly in emil's flashback. His prime directive is "kill them all" because he was made to be a weapon that can defeat anything.
He defaults back to this programming when he kills everyone in the aerie in 1: you go in just to kill the shades in the village, but emil loses control of his programming and goes back into his "destroy everything" mode.
My head canon is that machines are not even alien, nor did the aliens exist.
The game plays a lot with the idea that Yorha have been played with and lied from the start.
It wouldn't be far fetched to believe that the war between machines and androids,and alien invasion, have been fabricated by the human server's AI to perpetuate a conflict and find a meaning for itself after it lost its purpose with the end of the human race.
After all, the machines you encounter in the Junk Heap factory and in the tree during Ending E of Replicant are very similar to the machine lifeforms of Automata.
I like this theory and always thought it was possible that the aliens were a subterranean race, rather than coming from the stars. And since the gestalt terminal is underground too, there could be some connections. You do find the aliens buried deep underground.
Although there is also the alien mothership you find, which impacts things.
It's a fun theory. And yeah the junkheap robots and tree robots do feel like some of the designs you see in automata.
Also you find the corpses of aliens in the mothership, so something almost definitely did exist. They can't be a complete lie. They were real and now they're extinct.
You find 1(one) thing that proves that aliens existed over the course of the entire game, conveniently placed underground to be found after not being seen for thousands of years.
Considering machines when to war with the aliens and ended them at some point, should there be signs of war on the surface? If they are aliens, should there have been others existing elsewere, aliens that would've come to Earth following the war?
Isn't it more plausible the mothership, the aliens, and the idea that machines rebeled against them were created to fool everyone, to have a basis for the lie the kept for millenia?
The AI has already proven it can create shit at will, if anything, Ending E of Replicant only supports the theory that aliens never existed.
That's implying emil lies to the player about having fought the aliens in the past.
Emil says there's aliens too and that he fought them - not machines - when the invasion started.
Maybe not a lie, from his perspective.
Emil's memory and entire being are fricked to shreds after creating countless copies of himself.
The Emil in Automata has barely anything left out of the Emil you meet in Replicant.
I think it's probably a possibility the aliens were created underground by the gestalt terminal. I just also think they were probably the first line of attack in the invasion and had to be real, because that's what emil's sidequest shows you.
The aliens were also seen in the conflict frequently until quite recently. The commander says they were last seen "hundreds" of years ago. Not thousands. And the conflict itself has been thousands of years.
Considering androids are immortal, there's probably still androids alive by automata that had seen aliens.
Yet you don't meet any of these androids, not even among those older ones that aren't Yorha units. As far as I remember, Devola and Popolla never talk about aliens, when they should, they have been active since before the events of Replicant.
Emil himself is hardly a credible source of information, disregarding his affected memory, his copies you meet, could very well not be direct copies, but copies made the server, with altered memories, like the server created a copy of brother nier at the end of Replicant. It is something the server can do.
You find the aliens deep underground because they crash-landed their mothership that far deep into it. afaik.
are you a trans girl? if the answer is no then it's not for you. it's an egg cracking game.
Forgot the link
Also a picture of a black box, looking eerily like a human gestalt.
It's also fascinating how in the combat arena, the machines gain the texturing of gestalts. I think this is confirmation that both the machines and androids have real "souls" that are tangible and physical like the souls of the humans in replicant.
All of this feels like it's implying souls arise organically in response to consciousness, rather than being an undefinable thing unique to the humans. It's basically outright saying the machines have souls, and with the black boxes looking so much like gestalts as well, it makes me think they have souls too.
https://w.youtube.com/watch?v=dX5MK102_d4
When you replay this section of the game in routes b and c, emil gets a long text only backstory that explains how, sharing his sister's weaponized body, he has an overwhelming urge to kill everything and everyone. He explains it as being a feeling he can't control and that exists outside of him, and he describes it as "our desire" or something along those lines to describe how it overpowered both him and his sister.
It's very reminiscient of the machines themselves. I think the androids saw this absolute godlike weapon and just commandeered the technology for their own purposes, without even really changing the programmed directive. "Kill everything" works good for when you're waging an eternal war.
If the machines are emil or are derived from emil, then it's quite sad that indirect contact with Kalil woke them back up to being human again.
Also emil is likely mechanical in nature. I forget where I read it but there's a line somewhere or another in the series that accord supplied the Hamlin organization with something for their experiments on Halua and Emil. I think it's implied that the skull mask thing emil consists of is otherworldly, because it's also the only part of his body that survives the battle with popola: the rest of his skeleton burns away in the explosion. Hence why he's just a ball in automata. You can also hack into him in automata, which you can't do against animals.
Something in Halua and emil's creation made them more machine than human, and also ended up giving them programming directives.
Here's where it is. It's one of the new loading screens added in replicant version 1.22. It all but confirms that emil's head comes from accord and that he and his sister are the result of grafting weapons onto donor bodies.
I may not have ever really enjoyed playing Reincarnation, and I thought most of the stories were really formulaic in their sad twists, but I'm still going to miss a lot of the characters when it shuts down.
>pod when fighting hegel boss: "it appears to be a machine lifeform that has adapted to the desert environment"
>emil when explaining his backstory in automata: "A long time ago, I was created to be a weapon. A weapon that could adapt to any environment."
>the hegel boss is a reskinned version of the emil final boss
Very indirect but also further evidence that emil is the basis for all machines.
You spent all of automata murdering cloned children, lol. I think they kept this hush hush story wise so that the game could get a lower rating.
>puts 2b's funeral and 9s mourning her death behind one of the most forgettable sidequests of the game
>90% of players miss it
>9s buries her memorial over top of kaine's grave, unaware of the implications like 99% of players whose first game was automata
>history is forgotten and nobody remembers kaine's sacrifice
This man is a schizo God.
Seriously, the game gets impressively better the more side quests you complete. There are almost no useless sidequests in this game.
>This man is a schizo God.
Most accurate description of him I read. If you look at the timeline, and all the offshoots that happened, its amazing that anyone can manage to have it all make sense to begin with, but somehow the guy manages.
*randomly becomes a rhythm game with the best boss theme ever*
Kino
That's not random. It was random in Drakengard 1. It was totally expected in Drakengard 3.
>You've had some really unique and wild ideas. Have you ever pitched anything that a team has said is too much?
>In Drakengard 1, obviously you may know at the end of the game you come down into Shinjuku and then there's a rhythm-game which is the final part of the game. My original proposal for that was something that the team shot down straight away. The idea was you had a giant Ayumi Hamasaki, a Japanese pop idol, come down from the sky and then you had a singing contest with her to decide the fate of the universe. And they said, "No, we can't do that," and that was shot down. A pop idol in America who's the equivalent of Ayumi Hamasaki... so basically, it'd be something like Britney Spears coming down and you being like, “Oh hey, Britney! Let’s fight!” That's the kind of thing that would have been.
What did he mean by this?
That he has no fricking clue what he's doing, but it turns out really neat anyways.
He also wanted Drakengard 3 to be called Drakengard 4, and the entire purpose of the game was to find out what the frick happened in Drakengard 3.
Creators like Taro are great, but you have to have them on a leash.
Did you know drakengard 3's overt sexualization is based on him watching a friend fall off a roof and die as a child? His friends gathered around the corpse and laughed at how all the blood was swelling to give him an erection, and the mix of sexualization and death traumatized him so much that he wanted to make a game about it. It's why all the characters in 3 are so gross. It's a response to trauma and he wanted to tackle how people cope with trauma in every type of emotion, not just getting upset or angry.
Dude's a traumatized schizo.
I never knew the drakengard 4 thing. That's very funny. I imagine the twist would've been that nier was drakengard 3: it was written as drakengard 3 but they changed the title once it stopped being similar enough to justify calling it a sequel.
It's total headcanon but I imagine the later themes of sexualization, like 2b, extends to his childhood trauma as well. You can't have something like that happen and not have it influence your writing.
Honestly, if there was ever anyone that was actually influenced by a muse, its him. Typically, his first ideas are shit. It isn't until he's been told no so many times that he's almost entirely out of ideas that he's struck with something that's at least an interesting concept instead of just pure schizo autism.
That said, he also doesn't seem to be particularly attached to video games, given all the mangas and novels he's written, as well.
I think the dude just hits a point where he totally lets go and stops trying to control his thoughts, and just lets his muse pour out of him.
That's basically how he writes, yeah. He has said in drunk interviews that he writes in drunk stupors while crying to himself over his plot. When he wrote the wolf and facade plot, he actually forgot what he was doing the next day until he reread his script and had an emotional breakdown. That's when he knew to put it in the game.
It's an insane way of writing, but he does it well, lol.
Gotta be honest, I'm kind of surprised he's still making games. Given how much he went on about how he missed living away from his wife for months with Automata, I kind of expected that to be it for him.
But maybe the dude needs to get away and binge drink every now and again, and video games are a good way to do that away from his wife, as they do seem to be happy together.
Play it a few more times then.
How is the english translation of Nier Replicant and Automata?
The English translation of replicant is God tier. The entire cast is great, especially Ray chase and Laura Bailey. Weiss's voice actor is also particularly good and is able to mimic the original Japanese voice perfectly. I highly recommend playing dubbed. You can hear the hate in some of ray's lines when he's talking about how much he wants to kill shades, and it's very impactful. It makes you feel like you're playing as a literal monster.
Automata is less good but 9s's va's performance is amazing. He carries the game.
Peak of the voice acting in this scene. She's so good.
The English voice acting is greatly enhanced by kaine's swears being understandable to you. I wouldn't recommend playing in a language you can't understand.
I preferred the voice actor of Papa Nier over Brother Nier. Just my 2 cents.
That said, in both, the VA is very good, and realistically there's not much reason to play as Papa Nier anymore, given the story stuff that was cut from NieR Gestalt.
Think of it how we search for meaning and would do anything for God to say even one word to us. That how the androids view humans. Also aliens.
Nier automata and metal gear rising are the weakest game made by platinumgames.
I am once again asking that the real Nier 3 (frick you gachas) as an event suddenly happen mid-game, revealing (you) are in Cathedral City as it's thrown back in time alongside a title drop of Drakengard 4.
Gentle reminder that she gets tied up by a very hairy Verdelet in Drakengard 1.3, and you'll never know how he did it, why he did it, or what will happen to Accord in that timeline.
Can already tell you it won't happen. Drakengard 4 is the game coming out this year. Check out Taro's twitter on New Years Eve where all Taro says is "2024." It's very clearly a dragon image.
They would have done a Nier 3 if they could already. Nier is done, it ended on a high note. The cashgrab was that mobile game that did more highschool kids being soldiers.
As much as i'd love to be provided with taro-like games for the rest of my life i know this is an unrealistic expectation but at least give me one last game.
However, I personally don't think taro should ever explain the loop fully because keeping stuff like this in the darkness has a better longlasting mystery effect and intrigue compared to releasing a game that wholly explains the time loop. It's something we all want but it would diminish the nier/dod experience in my eyes.
His next game should explore the kingdom of night a bit tho.
I want a game taking place during the war with the legion after nier's prologue. There's already vague hints of a story there with how a replicant reawakens the first red eye and made them have to start the process all over again. It felt like he was setting up a game there.
What if only the WCS is a byproduct of Caim and the Queen Beast ending up in Nier's world?
The flower and the red eye disease being products of nier's world, with all of them being sent through the seed launched at the end of Automata, not in space, but through worlds, ending up in Drakengard's world, causing all the events of Drakengard.
Imagine a game centered around the efforts to stop the two worlds from perpetually destroying each other.
I hated nier on ps3 so I just assumed this one would be just as moronic & nothing I've seen of it has disproven that assumption.
If you hate Taro's best game, then why are you even in this thread?
To shit on the series for mild enjoyment.
>drakenchads hijack a nier thread from coomers
Based??
Aight homies lets be real, what's the open world percentage of this game? I really really hate open world games.
Which game?
it's an rpg, not an rpg open world. Sure you can go wherever, but you're gated by plot progression. There's the main quest and the side quests, that's it.
Ok, I'm gonna give it the 2 hours try to see how it goes. Thanks, anons.
It plays more like PS2 Era "open world" games like zelda. You can't travel in any direction. The map is open, but new areas are blocked by chokepoints and the game itself is linear and required you to progress through the story to move further in. Each area is story relevant for at least a few missions.
It definitely isn't open world in the traditional sense of the word. But the map itself is quite grand in scale and some of the fields in the city ruins and some of the desert areas stretch quite far.
If you don't like open world, then you'll like it. It plays more like old-school games when it comes to map design.
the game is about pavloving you into wanting to slam robot pussy and breed with machines for the incoming ai future
I feel like a lot of people overlook how Replicant is purposefully being Ocarina of Time.
Right? Or just zelda in general. The game fricking opens with a wind waker mural about how you need to defeat the great evil. Its so on the nose that it's great.
Then of course there's the timeskip to being an adult, and even kaine's petrification feels like the temple of time's door.
It's such a blatant zelda parody and it's wonderful. It's like "what would zelda be like if it took place in the real world and each enemy you killed was a real person?"
Schizo premise but it just works.
I actually vibed more with the Papa storyline, though. I wouldn't go through all that shit for my sister, but I would my daughter.
This. Killing humanity for a sister is weird. Doing it to save your daughter just makes sense. Any parent would sacrifice the world for their child.
>slams his sword so hard to a stop that the blood sonic booms off it if you watch in slow motion
Absolute beast. Love him. He's got that dragon pact strength.
I love him in Drakengard 2. Still cracks me up that there is a point in time when Nowe and company have to choose whether to fight a half blind 40+ year old man who just climbed out of a bottomless pit or to take on a rampaging insane Red Dragon that has been made the Goddess of the Seal, and the entire party chooses to go for Angelus.
>1:34
Also, everything before automata had better music.
>Also, everything before automata had better music
I'm aware.
the philosophy stuff is window dressing. the story is really just about 9S. it's not that deep, but a good melodrama that unfolds from multiple characters' perspectives.
There is only one thing to get
>You're thinking about how much you wanna [insert emotion] 2b aren't you
It's open ended, but remember, robots aren't allowed to have feelings.
>210 posts
>60 IPs
Grim.
It's cause there's like 10 drakengard fans on the whole planet. It was a dead franchise until automata.
This is what Ganker threads are supposed to be like, believe it or not. Communities used to be closer.
You posted the exact same post yesterday in a dragon's dogma thread.
What's your endgoal?
He is a tendie seething other non Nintendo threads have more ips than their averge porn threads
There was a dick edit (two) of this a anon made years ago, anyone have it?
Anon, I'm only going to say this once:
You have an unhealthy obsession with trans people. I've only ever seen this in people who would later come out as transgender.
Nice gaslighting troony
i heard reincarnation is already on its end
qrd on the story?
It's about reincarnation, duh.
Like if every character in the game was pulled from the Drakengard weapon stories, but now in purgatory to deal with all the post life trauma.
Just classic Yoko Taro writing on top of a fairly forgettable mobage.
really?
i thought it was a direct sequel at this point
Man I'm playing Nier Reincarnation before it ends (they give you tons of free shit so is easy) and I HATE this is a gacha. Tons of cool characters and stages, this shit should have been a cool Ico game with action, also it really is Automata sequel, yet story will be lost now lmao
Homosexual intercourse with my boyfriend 9S
2deep4/v/
reminder that your god yoko taro sold out to gachashit at the first opportunity to milk you mentally ill social rejects. niergays are as fricked in the head if not more so than tendies
Yes and he's proud and open about the fact and always has been. This isn't new. This is the same man behind nier automata t-shirt and the iconic line of ""I, Yoko Taro am a slave to capitalism, so I will do anything as long as I am paid and will do nothing if there's no money in it."
You act like this is a bad thing. As if it's his fault he has to make money to live, lol.
self hating and porn addiction go hand in hand moron. they dont give a shit
>the absolute state
all these posts and NOT ONE FRICKING 2B COOM POST???
????????? YOU ARE SLACKING Ganker
>op answered in first post
>go to sleep
>make up, somehow thread still up because of one(uno) samegayging moron
are you legit autist or something
>STOP LIKING THINGS I DONT LIKE!!!
You've probably samegayged the thread more than him at this point. Holy shit. You're so obsessed that a day later you're still doing it.
Was it autism bros? There's like 40 posts dedicated solely to complaining this thread exists.
Move on.
what are you on about Black person? I posted 3 times lmfao fricking sperg
jrpgs are weebschizo magnets, newfriend
Did they finally explain the tidally locked earth not being cooked to death on day 1 of it happening?
It is being cooked to death. Most of the earth is like the desert environment, and there's ingame dialogue about how it's growing constantly. There only exists pockets of oasis vegetation, which is where most of the game takes place. Most plants and animals are going extinct in automata.
I bought this game 2 times and never played it
I am very autistic
Is it worth a pirate? I heard that the final part is impossible to beat without online
pls no spoiler
not worth it unless youre a very sensitive weeb. if you value gameplay above all its pretty meh for an action game
Fight each other to the death. I'll listen to the winner's opinion
Its pretty good
It's worth it.
It's not impossible, touhou gays have dealt with worse. But you will struggle.
Don't listen to this gay, if you don't play on easy or normal where you can beat the game with the same too combos, you will have to exepriment with the combat system and will soon discover that it has the most in depth and fluid gameplay Platinum has ever made.
I love threads like this so I can see little smelly FREAKS go way too far into explaining a fricking videogame.
FREAKS.
I thought nier automata was a masterpiece I just didnt get? did reddit lie to me
I liked the game and did all the main endings and i barely remember anything except ancient aliens and 2s going moron mode when 2b died. and then fighting a virus or something in the end
What the frick is happening in this thread
basically
>schizo makes automata thread with irrelevant topic
>anons post
>op keeps samegayging untill schizobro joins convo
>some anons try to shit the thread in vain
>schizoposting lasts for half a day give or take
"gendering" themselves
They copy humans.
>>A "male" robot named Pascal with a feminine voice
Pascal has a child's voice.
s before Adam boss fight pretending to be other genders while simulating sex
They copy humans.
>>Adam and Eve have a homoerotic incest undertones
No they don't.
>>9S ripping off 2B's arm and attaching on to himself is a genital mutilation metaphor which made him go fully insane after A2 tried to reason with him
That's completely insane. He doesn't go insane, the 2B clones are infected with the virus and 9S is choosing death over loneliness when he attaches her arm to himself. He is choosing to not let go of the memory of 2B, symbolically attaching a piece of one of her hollow copies to himself and choosing death.
>>A literal suicide button
kek
's obsessed with ass fetishes and people with ass fetishes are tend to be homosexuals
Liking a woman's ass is not a fetish.
known to be attracted to younger boys (i.e 9S)
True but 9S is a self-insert, if the "You're thinking about how much you want to frick 2B, right?" wasn't obvious enough.
Now Replicant on the other hand, is not actually a trans allegory, but the english localization of the remake turns it into one.
It's actually about alchemical allegories, but that kind of nuance is completely lost on the politically motivated. They went over that shit like an asphalt roller.