https://twitter.com/NieRReinEN/status/1749615764049645661
What's next for the series? outside of 2B getting shoved into a bunch more collabs?
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NieR Reincarnation is shutting down this year
https://twitter.com/NieRReinEN/status/1749615764049645661
What's next for the series? outside of 2B getting shoved into a bunch more collabs?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY JPEGS YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME YOKO TARO
have a nice day
Live
the persona 5 collab effect
Star Ocean Anamnesis also shut down in global a few months after the Persona collab. Suspicious
Dragalia too
It's always the last ditch at reviving for some reason
GBF still going strong baybeeee!
P5 is so shitty that destroys everything it touches.
>P5 destroying gachashit
sounds incredibly based to me
>has colabbed with persona 5, as well as 3 and 4
Kneel. Yeah I know they're both owned by Sega, so it's not the win I'm saying it is.
ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST
hope genshit is next
I wish but it's not happening anytime soon
never understood why nier reincarnation never appeared on these lists
Truly depressing
i really hope snowbreak dosen't die soon
we need an updated ver of this
nice
>A Dream Team of Kirito and Joker
Said nobody
i love how gachas are the most expensive games with the least permanence
they're actually free, lil buddy
You're actually a Black person, lil buddy
Nobody who plays gachas religiously plays them for free, they always casually spend $5 here and there until a year or so passes and they've bought $75 worth of NFTs
I played Dragalia Lost religiously as a F2P player. Then they announced they were dropping support and I felt a giant relief, and haven't played a game with a login bonus since.
>paying $75 a year to play a gacha is bad
moron
yes
they should honestly pay you for using their shitty app
Time = money
>B-but you spend time in any game
In most game, I exchange my time for fun, while in gacha I spend time to do menial boring tasks to bypass the money requirements to get paywalled content.
have a nice day, trannoid
someone posted a pic before but I didn't save it that shows gatchas make SHIT loads but always go under in like a year or two.. it's weird as hell
pfffffthahaha the old man has completely lost it
Sorry Yoko Taro it was a good ride but it couldn't last forever
> makes one hit game that gets critically acclaimed
< square enix ceo bozos - what will we do now that we finally got a major hit on our hands after decades of fooling around with a boomer ip brand?
> i know! Put our ‘eccentric maverick genius’ director on a bunch of cheap crap gacha games! Profit!
Stupid fricking idiots
Yoko Taro likely didn't do major stuff for Sinoalice past the original designs and some basic lore.
Yeah, idk what these morons were thinking.
But hey, at least people extracted the 2b clones models, right?
They probably have board meetings where they ask each other why nobody talks about YT anymore. What a mystery indeed.
Square Enix is literally the worst-run company on earth, from what I can tell.
They've merely survived off FF and DQ names for 20 years, but that's coming to an end now
They'll survive the coming decade and a half or so rehashing the games that once made them successful through remakes, after that it may become more difficult.
they actually won't, they are on death's doorstep. they can't make products that earn money anymore and ffxiv doesn't last forever. it was the only thing actually keeping them going for years, not anything else.
they're probably about to be bought by sony, or kadokawa or something.
>XIV was the only thing keeping them going for years.
People still believe this lie? It was their overpriced merge and saturating the gacha market with low quality games that FF fans would dump egregious money on for character interactions, like Brave Exivus and WOTV.
Overpriced merch*
gacha isnt really part of the conversation as the revenue is ephemeral and can be instantly disrupted at any time (and was)
man, the japanese people are sad. whaling on shovelware like brave exivus lmao
nonetheless the revenue from FFXIV was still probably higher as it is a worldwide product, I think you are objectively wrong
if "square enix" exists to push phone gachas only, then square enix died
>ffxiv doesn't last forever. it was the only thing actually keeping them going for years
That's not what their financial data says, but ok
Reminder these people legitimately think square is doomed and will be bankrupt in a few weeks. They aren’t as huge as they used to be but they are completely fine.
Doesn't matter. At least I got some cozy streams with my favorite vtubers.
He wanted to do a gacha, he likes trying noew things.
Hes done with it now
wasn't it teased they'll reveal a new game this year?
That is true. I think it was called 404?
That game already bombed lol
Ha I never even noticed
Nah something new entirely, not related to NieR either. I think there was some event late last year where they said they were hoping to reveal it this year
rip
Gachas are the epitome of "you will own nothing". Imagine the excitement of unlocking something rare in a gacha, or worse yet, actually paying for it, and then it just shuts down one day.
It's not so bad if the gacha lasts a long time and you get bored of it but this one isn't even old lol.
This is why I've only played Genshin so far, since its budget is massive it will last a looong time.
>it's not
It's still bad, because you will enter expecting it last.
People should just stop believing the same lie over and over again.
They are acting like women, kek
More like you are paying SUBSTANTIALLY MORE MONEY for less gameplay EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. In a gacha
That's why when I see people spending in a pay to win game like Lost Ark or BDO I just think meh if they're rich it's literally cope to tell them they're moronic to do so.
The hook for those games is usually a genuinely great game locked behind absurd homosexual shit you need to spend to bypass.
Gacha is just always pure unironic dog shit. Genshin is 5% of breath of the wild, every single part is inferior and yes I put 60 hours into it and even got lucky and got Xiao for absolutely free but the game SUCKS IT IS FRICKING TERRIBLEEEE IT'S A SHITTY STORY + KOROK SEEDS THAT IS LITERALLY IT.
You know, they could go the Mega Man X Dive offline route. Repackage it to be a full game for purchase. You get double the money from the gacha and some after it's been shutdown after making the most money you could. Sounds like a win-win strategy.
Only works when the games are actual games that have some sort of play value even when offline, outside of a glorified slot machine and a jpeg collection. Most are just autobattlers.
Yeah, that ended up being what made me drop Reincarnation around the end of I guess the end of the first main story arc (before the schoolboy/schoolgirl story started). The stories were ok, but the "gameplay" was just boring that I couldn't keep going. It was just a mindless autobattler like most other gachas.
What an asinine statement. This is as reductive as claiming FPSs are just a series of point and clicks.
> Most are just autobattlers.
Wdym 'just' autobattlers? People loved Autochess, autobattlers definitely have their niche.
this, all of Square's "games" are just press the button to win. they get you with the graphics though.
I hope something like this happens to Guardian Tales. While it's still just a jpg collector I can't help but find it really charming.
I still remember when they made a full game of the Battle cats and released it on the 3DS and made it so easy to grind tuna or whatever to do gacha rolls.
i'm fine with the game shutting down one day. my nightmare scenario would be spending a bunch of money on a m*le character which gets power crept by a hot female. thankfully i never roll on m*les, but this scenario just happened in Honkai Star Rail, a free character named Dr Ratio power crept some other gay dude that people spent money on
Every time I see a gachagay that talks like you do where you have to censor every utterance of the word "male," this always comes to mind.
you don't have to be mad when you can be a girl, anon.
Girls are mad tho. You aren't roleplaying a girl very well if you aren't committing to being excessively hostile.
you just made me figure out the connection between gacha players and vtuber fans, thank you, im so moronic for not seeing it before
DHIL and Ratio are completely different types of characters with completely different teams tbh. DHIL is probably stronger as well, and has a dedicated support coming out within a few months. I assume you are reading f2p cope posts about ratio being a god of damage or something. In reality he is very mediocre unless you already had another character (Topaz) to pair him with.
JL is still the best DPS by a lot.
You are an insect
You're not a gambler are you. That rush of winning a gamble is itself the reward gamblers are chasing. They don't care if the actual prize is pointless as long as they get that rush out of it
At least with gambling like blackjack and using basic strategy, long term you only lose around 15% of the money you use for gambling. Learning a little bit of card counting, might bring you to zero or profit. There's also other skill based gambling, especially ones that don't depend on a casino that are way more fun and have the potential to bring in money as well. In JPEG collector games, you waste all the money you spend and they steal your collection once they shut down.
>imagine
you dont have to imagine this lmao its happened plenty of times already
I do have to imagine it because I will never play any game from this stupid fricking genre
To avert "You will own nothing", you must incentivize the ability to community host everything.
If necessary you should be able to run all of the infrastructure yourself.
Corporations are incentivized to shut things down, there is no cost-benefit analysis that will reveal that keeping a server online indefinitely will yield profit.
>you have to be an internet commie to own the gacha chuds
LMFAO
I'm gonna drop another 1,000 in my gachas this week just to make you all seethe a little more
This is one of the reasons why I've been so hesitant on building a golfing simulator for myself. There are barely any fully offline options, and the ones that exist cost thousands of dollars. Meanwhile you can get into it for as little as 300 bucks, but everything is online based and if you want more course options, you have to get a subscription.
I wonder if there's a big enough intersection between FOSS programmers and golf nuts to build up a free open source software with no login requirements at some point.
The high off of getting the SSR want only lasts like a couple of minutes, maybe a bit more if it's a meta unit or card or whatever. By the time it wears off you don't even care you have it, and by the time a game closes up shop you're probably not even playing it anymore.
You're not wrong, but the bigger picture paints an even worse situation. People be throwing money for dopamine hits that lasts like 5 minutes and then they do it a hundred times more until they get bored. That's why mobile shit is completely dominating the vidya market.
I love pics like this, they are literally
>it was real in my mind
but everyone eat it up
It's funny how people keep repeating that gaming is the highest grossing form of entertainment worldwide, while ignoring that 50% of that is fricking gatcha predatory bullshit. They shouldn't be in the same category, because they're nowhere near similar.
life isnt about owning things and you cant own everything worth experiencing
basically your focus on owning everything constricts you to a tiny corridor of life.
have a nice day, you are a fricking moron.
>Doesn't have anything to say
>feels the need to respond with this
dark path you are walking down son, other people are the only things that are really worth anything in life, you don't have to pretend to yourself that you're some spiky thing that can't be among them.
I have nothing to respond because your point is legitimately fricking moronic bullshit, nobody said you must own absolutely everything worth experiencing in existence, but that doesn't excuse being locked out of something that continues the story of a thing you enjoy simply due to garbage business practices and greed. What kind of absolute loser do you have to be to defend "you should be happy not owning your games"?
Your faux-deep metaphysical "pondering" is beyond autistic, we're talking about a videogame, not the concept of happiness itself. Get the frick over yourself.
>life isnt about owning things
This would be a reasonable argument from a Buddhist or someone with a similar moral framework. Because when they discuss it, it's about the transience of being and how nothing can be preserved. It's not about making things as transient as possible, it's about accepting reality.
Meanwhile gatchagays like you are slaves to their desire and spend significant time and money trying to get what they want in a video game. The transience of your fake possessions also isn't an inevitability of reality, it's a choice made by a company that is trying to rob you blind, just like all the shit with subscriptions for things you used to be able to own.
You are fricking moronic.
This is the reason why gachagays are some of the most tribal homosexuals out there. If their game of choice shows even a slight hint of losing popularity, they go full doomer mode and flip out. Other gachas eat away their players and revenue so they become their enemies. This is one reason why the most popular gachas also have the most haters. The hopelessness in the GBF general back when Genshin came out was insane. 3 years later and they still get mad if you mention the g-word. And they were already losing hard to FGO even before hoyo came around.
Kinda like a girlfriend, huh
>Imagine the excitement of unlocking something rare in a gacha, or worse yet, actually paying for it, and then it just shuts down one day.
I made my peace with it, I paid like $30 bucks for Akagi Shigeru in a Chinese Tile Board gatcha. I have been playing it for years before the event happened, so I didn't mind whaling for him.
My screenshots and memory will die with me.
>it’s ending
thank frick, now I’ll re-download, finish up the story and delete.
https://nierreincarnation.com/refunds
jej
>https://nierreincarnation.com/refunds
Key: refunds
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Message: The specified key does not exist.
kek
AIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I don't care about this shit, but does it have a great OST like the other games?
Some bangers.
>doesn't post the songs that are actually good
all of this shit sounds like bargain bin off brand Nier music
that's what plenty of the replicant remake sounded like too.
>install game a month ago because apparantly its completely canon AND important
>game is boring bullshit
yeah I guess Ill just never know
FF7 Ever Crisis is made by the same developer, they have a new nostalgia train to farm weeb money with, and they don't need Yoko Taro games when Square Enix can easily farm the NieR IP with collabs showing off 2B's ass.
>gachashit
>See this thread
>Check phone
>Atelier Resleriana is installed
>You pre-registered for this app, and now it's installed on your device
Where is this from ?
kyouko suiri/in-specter is the english name
I want this picture without the meme text on their chests
>canonical Nier content locked behind FFXIV's raids or something
>canonical Nier content locked behind a Babylon's falls event
>canonical Nier stories scattered around several gachas
what the hell is taro doing
?
Welp, can't argue with that.
I would do the same
then why did he agree to do the rainbow six siege collab
nobody plays ubishit anymore
What ever Square Enix pays him to.
The key difference here is that Yoko and his team actually saw this gacha as Nier 3.
So it's up in the air if it'll get the KHUX look at all cutscenes treatment, or forever damned to being something internet archivists had to chronicle.
Getting money.
if i western dev said this youd never hear the end of it
Goddamn, I hate Yoko Taro's brand of storytelling with this multimedia crossover shit. I know he's a money prostitute but come on.
Nier content locked behind FFXIV's raids or something
That event ended up being fricking nothing, don't don't about it.
What ever makes money
Automata is a sequel to a stageplay that was never released in the west, Taro does what Taro wants.
qrd on the important story bits?
> everything is bad, there is no hope
That sounds exactly like all Taro games.
Cage is on the moon and is the archive for Humanities data.
Cage is run by 10-H and her Pod.
Angels/The Watchers are attacking the cage to wipe out what's left of Humanity.
It's actually a different timeline to Automata and a timeline where the Machines won and proceeded to control all of Earth building their own Kingdom.
Final Chapter is about the main cast going to earth to defeat the Watchers from killing what remains of Humanity.
There's probably 10 different timelines involved in the main plot.
Awww still no Accord
Doesn't look like she'll be showing up at all, but the ending's apparently supposed to be a large chapter. So who knows.
Is the Cage literally the server or a weird metaphysical dimension to it?
Who is the bandaged little girl?
I haven't really followed it at all.
Cage is literally the server.
Although Earth also looks like the Cage for some reason that'll get explained in the final chapter.
As for the bandaged girl. That's Fio. She's a bottom class of her timeline, a Goat Person who's job is to exist to get shit on by the slightly less bottom class. The poors.
She's apparently gonna be important in the final chapter.
bro wtf so the whole watcher invading the nier universe plot is stuck in a dead gacha I though the story was some irrelevant bullshit but it's actually one of the most important event in the entire series
At least 10H is cute
>Watchers
Frick them giant babies
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>It's actually a different timeline
wow it's literally nothing then
I also hated accord and all of "le timeline" bullshit in D3 too
Can one of you Black folk that played this gay gacha shit confirm if it's actually just a completely different timeline? If it is, it is safe to ignore, since it doesn't at all concern the timeline in Automata.
I've played it and am still playing it to the final so I'll tell you what the last chapter lore dropped.
The timeline where Reincarnation's main plot takes place is a timeline where the Machines actually managed to invade physically the bunker on the moon, even after infecting them with the Virus. 2B presumably dies in this timeline in the Bunker as 10-H finds data of her sword there, which corrupts her with the machine virus.
Once YorHA were defeated, the Machines then set out to explicitly wipe out all Android resistance on Earth all across the world. Proceeding to build their own Kingdom afterwards, which is presumably the current state of Earth.
Additionally, the game then proceeds to already bring in multiple timelines into it's plot, where it's heavily implied that Accord is popping around different timelines and gathering genetic dater of Humanity for the cage. Thanks to there being two versions of the siblings Yuzuki and Hina in the game. Their base versions which are from a timeline where Angelus is never shot down and WCS doesn't happen. And a timeline where they're apart of the Crusaders and Yuzuki becomes Red Eyes.
Aside from that, everything from Drakengard ending E up until route C of Automata seems canon to the Reincarnation main timeline.
Data*
Not necessarily an alt timeline based on the bunker the machine bodies are only seen after she's already infected
Hold up, now, the Bunker is (was?) the YoRHA headquarters, while the Moon server was a completely separate thing, or do you mean that there was sort of an outpost of actual YoRHA units ON the Moon guarding the server? Also, what about the Kingdom of the Night, were Accord herself was built and that has never been explored? Also also, why is it explained why Accord is gathering more genetic data in/for The Cage specifically? I assume the Accord that is doing so is from a timeline where the Moon server is still intact..
The Bunker was/is YoRHa headquarters. As for the moon server/cage, that was safely for the most part in the outpost 10-H was on the moon, until Yuzuki and Hina get tricked into letting the Watchers further gain access to the Moon Server by connecting the server to a server the Watchers already have access to and spreading the machine virus.
As for Accord, she doesn't show up much as usual with the Nier stuff, it's just said she's running about and collecting data. The Cage itself is supposed to be a storage system to retain what's left of Humanity, it's genetic data, etc etc. So one day they can come back and that's apart of the reason why the Watchers are attacking the Cage/Server.
the characters do mention her and we outright see her in Yudil's story, and one of the hidden stories confirms she makes the weapons but the pod is killed before he can say why she makes them.
Yeah, she does get referenced and you do see her, my mistake there I should've clarified. Just to the over-all story, she doesn't have the largest of impact on the main story going forward, but that could easily change next chapter.
Basically from as far as I can tell rereading over the plot. The Cage system is very much the last ditch attempt after the Gestalt project to try and bring back Humanity. Hence the need likely to jump around multiple timelines to find genetic data to fill up the servers of the cage. It's also the in universe justification for the character costumes, being genetic data of other possible timelines and endings to the cast. Presumably the plan is then to repopulate what ever timeline they manage to beat the Watchers in with this genetic data.
Okay, this is legit very interesting, which makes it being confined to a shitty gacha that's permanently being deleted soon all that much worse. Frick's sake, man. More Accord, the fricking Watchers and Moon server, and they lock it behind trash..
Shit, ok, I missed the part where the actual Watchers were attacking the server, interesting. So perhaps Accord is trying to find a timeline where they are not tricked into opening a backdoor and gathering more data as she goes, then? Several things like the Watchers tattoo on Eve, the N2 girls using data from the Forest of Myth supercomputer, the Machine Arc, I expected to be part of the plot, but not this, fascinating. Then again, since the FoM computer technically only contains data to create Replicants, it's probably not useful for the purposes of the Cage... Hmm. Man, I used to have this theory that Automata is a prequel in the sense that Accord was created to find the one thread where humanity does NOT go extinct, and giving humans dragons and magic is the only way they can prevent the flower/watchers from appearing, but somehow it went wrong, so the Cathedral city was sent over from the future into the Drakengard 3 era, but it contained the Flower because future YoRHA (? ) could not destroy it and they hoped humanity would find a way to do so until the time of NieR, but it never works out.. Turns out my insane schizo theory from after finishing Automata might not be as insane as I thought.
The bunker was always YoRHA headquarters. The false council of humanity exists in multiple servers but the main one is actually under the sea. The moon server has a Yorha and pod guarding the Yorha member doesn't know what she's really guarding (and gets mind wiped if she does).
The Kingdom of Night is destroyed shortly after Accord is born (imo her birth is the cause but I have no proof other than it being poetic). Remember the city that appears out of nowhere in D3 that's the City that created Accord it gets fricked and Teleported to an alternate timeline as part of the loop.
Accord is still doing her thing of looking for a way for man kind to survive. She collects data from alternate timelines to try to find a way for all Mankind to prosper but humans in Nier just seem destined to get fricked.
The game also implies Accord is Manager of the Cage (something which gets people killed when they accidentally allude to it) which would make her Mama/The Pods boss but the novel says Mama works for the council so it implies Accord is also part of the Yorha council.
______sex with Accord________
Where is it stated that the Kingdom of Night is destroyed? In Reincarnation? Because I don't remember this from any supplemental materials, hmm. What was the "Council of Humanity", again? Just a fake signal transmitter, right? I know the actual genetic data is on the Moon, which is where, as far as I can gather from comments here, The Cage also is (in a way), but there never was an actual "council of humanity", just a few YoRHA androids who knew humans were long extinct. I recall Accord is created somewhere around the 6200s. We don't know if, say, Commander White was created anywhere near that time, but let's say both Accord and certainly Commander White and certain other YoRHA androids (who?) are part of a bigger "council" that have this "Cage" plan. is it explained why they wouldn't just change their mission to assisting Accord and guarding the server openly and instead create and sabotage the YoRHA project themselves? Also, which novel are you talking about where it's revealed "Mama" is part of the YoRHA council?
It was never popular, was it?
Nope. SE/Taro needs to realize that Automata was a flash in the bottle, a game that was only successful because it released at the right time due to Platinum being at their peak popularity and tons of free promotion by popular ecelebs like Derpixon. Going with a gacha instead of making every single Nier/Drakengard game available on modern systems is a idiotic decision, as gachas are expected to die within 1-4 years unless it's a popular IP like Fate or Dragon Ball.
Is this a young Taro?
No, taro is ugly.
Who is that guy then?
Because taro said he loves fanservice with 2B yet boomers hate to see porn of their characters even though thats free marketing
Nier Replicant is much, much better than Automata. The gameplay of Automata is overrated and Replicant’s story and characters are several tiers above Automata’s.
>Niergays bitter as usual
Kwab, every sane person sees replicant as the incest futaslop that it is
yeah sure playing through the text adventure 4 times is peak "gameplay"
No-one gave a frick about Platinum gaymes outside of a few Gankerers. Most people bought the game because of word of mouth about the plot and 2B. Also
is correct
>No-one gave a frick about Platinum gaymes outside of a few Gankerers.
You underestimate the huge popularity Platinum Games had during the 2010s. Bayonetta, MGR, Wonderful 101, Madworld, they were seen as a company that would release classic after classic, a company that did nothing wrong. It's why people got hyped when they learned Platinum Games was working on Automata.
>prefers replicant
>bitter tone
every time
>Taro needs to realize
Taro keeps making gatcha, mobile games, novels, one off stage plays and whatever the frick is going to die a horrible death due no ecosystem or standalone
He essentially got what it takes to be a true auteur, but don´t get the chance or just really hate the idea of taking it further.
>Square Enix
Long term heading towards a decline and a corporate death. But its still going to take decades since the JP licensing model is very very resilient as a method to keep liquidity.
another one bites the dust
>Another "hit" gacha just died
>GF gets to live another 3 months
my brain is so fricked jesus lord
GF servers are actually dying husks and require a EOS notice for another gacha every day to function
the power of not having a publisher
What I don't understand is why most gachas don't go the Megaman XDive route. The game was ass, but making an offline versions was probably a no brainer, they simply added a menu that lets you activate seasonal events kek.
They probably haven't developed the games to be able to do that. xdive was originally designed as a front end to launch X remakes, but capcom reneged on the deal and the devs never even got maverick hunter out, so that very modular design of the content was super easy to fix up for an offline launch.
Other games don't really support that, especially when they're as busted as most gacha are where endgame units will let you sleep through 99.999999999999999999999999% of content.
I feel like that wouldn't go over well for most average gachas.
Imagine being the kind of the sad pathetic bastard that spends hundreds of dollars a month on these types of games so they can play and build up their waifu and get to flaunt to other players how much they spent on that girl. These gays already send death threats to developers over girls having the faintest hint of interaction with the opposite sex. Imagine the rage when they see that everyone can pay a single $20-$30 fee to get what they already spent thousands for and more.
As if any of the failures who sink major amounts of money into gachas would have the balls or physical condition to carry out their threats. The only reason not to dab on them on your way out is the hope you might keep exloiting their moronation with your next jpg slot machine too.
the answer is more simple than that. they want you to move onto their next gachas, giving you an offline version of the old one might make it so you don't try out the new one.
Because look at the numbers. Only 1k reviews, 180 people playing it right now. It flopped.
What does that matter? Giving people the ability to play the game even after the service ends is a practice all gachas should adopt, no matter how good or bad the game is.
Those 180 people are enjoying themselves, and you can't take that away from them with your popularity-number obsession.
Even if no more content were to be added to an offline version of the game, new and old people alike could still play the game, and the most important about a game is being able to fricking play it. This can't be said about majority of modern online games. Once the central server shuts down, the game is unplayable permanently.
Doesn't matter what you think anon. Those numbers I previously posted gets evaluated by the shareholders inside the company who makes these kind of games. If they determine that it wasn't worth all the resources to make offline mode for their to be soon shutdown gacha game then they won't do it. That's how cold and soulless are inside these companies.
Those numbers are AFTER the game has ultimately died and squeezed dry any possible incomine. It's just an end of life plan so that old players have something to play and new players can experience all the content that has been made up to that point.
Making an offline version of a game takes 1-2 days at most to implement and costs fricking nothing, this has been discussed to death, it's just companies being absolute scumbags and incredibly lazy.
You missed the point anon. It's not like they can't do it it's more like is it worth it to do. They won't do it because they are soulless company
Some artificial scarcity is imperative for that FOMO bucks I'd reckon.
Has there been any archive of the story I can read up on now that I know it's ending?
>we can't keep supporting the game, we're a small studio please understand
>game stolen
This is why you don't play always online slop
What'll happen with her?
She's in FF14 as a permanently earnable minion, so she'll last a little longer in some form.
>This is probably the last game appearance Zero from Drakengard 3 will have
>It’s dead now
WWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW
I KNEW THIS SHIT WOULD HAPPEN AND YET COMMUNITY LAMBASTED ME AND THEY CONTINUE COPING!!!
FRICK YOU WALKING SIMULATOR!
ah nice now i can watch the ending on yt
Look at how brainrotted these people are. Just look at the amount of copium.
psychologists getting hired into the industry to farm dopamine/cash from addicts makes me sad.
the same people who told me i cannot play with zero in my team because she isnt "viable" and i shouldnt build my team based on who i want to play but who is part of the "meta" and getting downvoted after calling this shit game design
frick you all and your shitty slot machine iam glad you gays lost money
sadly these people don't lose money they make enough to fill that hole very quickly
I hope 2b goes in more collabs
I actually own the white star 2p skin in naraka, and im working on getting the ffxiv glamour.
Just get her in Koitatsu.
I'm also flying out to Dallas for [the end of data] next week.
Perfect then. Koikatsu perfect for fapping between flights. To be serious tho, at least in this game I can get every character I want and pose them it's enough to satisfy my nier cravings.
Isn't koikatsu like a decade old already? Hasn't illusion bothered releasing a newer one yet?
IDK the age of the game but you can download the repack version that contains everything. Or maybe you can go the modding route and mod in nier characters.
Hmm. I'll go look into it, thanks for the recommendation anon
you own a 2B skin worth thousands of dollars in a battle royale game mostly populated by bots and Chinese players? whoa
While what you're saying is true, it's unironically a good game, with a very high skill cap.
>square enix
>shutting down their own games
Name a more iconic duo.
Will it get an offline version?
That would be a nice thing to do, so there's no way it'll happen.
just like sinoalice, your only option will be watching youtube videos, and a database site for weapon stories
LOL of fricking course not.
GAMES AS A SERVICE IS A SCAM
I hope they at least make a offline version given they made this pretty important to the on-going nier plot
Anons, the answer is simple - do not play series based gachas.
konosuba gacha? Don't play it. Nier gacha, don't play it. I think I even saw the eminance in the shadow gacha on the play store? Anyway, don't play it.
They all die after like 2 or 3 years. If you must play a gacha, play an independent gacha and look for collabs, like how 2b got a collab with NIKKE. Or else you will get EOSd.
I'm a huge yoko taro dickrider but even I couldn't give half a shit about this "game".
Good fricking riddance.
Stop playing Gachas you moronic fricking Black folk, jesus fricking christ HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU SUBHUMANS REALIZE THIS
NOOOO I MUST GAMBLE ON JPEGS YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ANON
i only play them f2p and usually stop when shit becomes too grindy and just watch the rest on yt
Nah gachas is live-service game. Stop playing games from publishers like Square Enix. Only play gacha games that is popular and pulling in millions of revenue so you know you are safe.
dub zero >>> original zero
Based. Tara Platt's deep female voice is divine
This
Played with both and holy shit, first time I prefer dubs
Also Ditto's five introduction is still stuck in my head
>want to buy my younger sisters the last pokemon games for their birthday (they are twins)
>not interested, Pokemon bores them
>Palworld comes out
>they love it
They spend all their free time playing Palworld and Roblox now. Pokemon is getting mogged hard.
Wrong thread you shitposting schizo
Should have just made nier 2.
>hurr automata is actually a sequel
I don't care, and neither does anyone else.
Just make another 2b game and call it nier 2 and it'll sell. No one cares about some reddit story.
what did they mean by this?
These braindead people are actually blaming the community for not trying this game. Look at their post history and you will see their real color.
>best mobile game in existence
>best polished turd in existence
They clearly have mental health issue if they think that the game that just shutdown cuz everyone ignored and panned, is the best mobile game in existence.
Japanese made gachas some how became one of the worst offenders in the entire genre never evolving past the years old ".JPG collector" sterotype. Most of them are idle clickers cashing in on an established IP to pump and dump.
Almost all of the innovation and f2p friendliness has come from Korean and Chinese made gachas that make them half way legitimate games. Maybe needing to build up their own original IPs from scratch force them to give at least a single frick about quality instead of just coasting on an anime or vidya franchise to milk.
Chinks don't make any real games for consoles like japs do which is why their most notable output to date is exclusively on mobile.
Rest in piss.
I used to like Yoko Taro but after how much he sold out after Automata I could careless. Anyone playing the gacha or the endless collabs for scraps of lore are morons. Hes a hack who will keep stringing idiots along with crumbs.
He literally has been wanting to remake drakengard 1 and 3 for years, its S-E boomers who hate him for being young
morons will never learn.
>spend shittons of money on jpegs/models
>company shuts the game down a year later
>doesnt even make a single player mode
That's what's hilarious. They shut these downs and 100% just fricking run away with your money. Lmfao
Megaman X Dive is literally the only gacha that actually was converted into offline singleplayer version. And only because Capcom didn't want to develop new proper megaman game and it was easier to push this one.
>all that wasted art, music, and story
SE is full of morons
>shut down dissidia OO
>shut down echoes of mana
>shut down nier
>shut down dq tact global
>shut down dq brilliant stars (title?)
octopath traveler and romancing saga re:universe still clinging. FF Brave Exvius is somehow alive. that tactics game isn't looking good.
Echoes of Mana was not even a year old, grim
such a shame because it actually brought up backstories for that mermaid and harpy lady from Legend of Mana that got scrapped (probably for the best since the ending was bittersweet) and there was another with Crimson Wizard confronting his future self and being friends with angela at the time. Oh and the Scorpion army isn't even as dangerous. they're literally doronojo and company. the christmas event was their last appearance. they should have released summer risez, but instead they did pirates? sometimes the game tends to crash and this was really obvious in the endgame where the boss healthbar was so lengthy it took 30 minutes to beat it. Online Co-oP was dead.
it was a dogshit gacha scam anyway, who the frick wants to play phone games, should have made Nier 3 instead.
I wish you could at least play the games post closure, if you're going to shut it down at least make it free for everyone with everything unlocked
so people sink hundreds of dollars into these gacha games and they just shut down someday? thats hilarious
imagine being a whale and this happens
If someone is a whale they are probably wealthy enough that it doesn't matter tbh.
>sinoalice EoS
>sega waifu mascot gacha EoS
>now neir
Three of Yoko Taro's gacha projects died. I think he's done in the gacha space.
Persona 5 being a gacha death sentence is so meta
Both Tomato and P5 are the same in whoring out their characters for anyone who paid any penny. I just wish it would be more for something substantial like 2B in SC5 or P5 in Catherine expansion. Not just for shitty gacha after gacha.
Granblue had a P5 event iirc and that's going nowhere
The difference is that those games were dying before the collab
Granblue isn't really that popular and the revenue is low than other gacha games. They might eos it and focus on uma instead just like what they did in here. They shutdown nier rein to focus on their new FF gacha game because that game is more profitable.
Grub would have died too if they didn't get lucky with homoangels, and now everyone need to pay the tax
I quit this gacha because of the P5 colab. I enjoyed seeing Zero again but this shit ruined it.
Another Eden had TWO P5 collabs and is not scheduled to EOS til 2026
Please apologize to this dude he was telling the truth
Cant they make the game a console standalone singleplayer thing without the gacha or is it too server focused?
that's what i've been saying all these years. problem is licenses and content.
Reincarnation is perfect for this. Story is done and they can just cut out collab characters/events.
It’s not impossible but if you play the game as it is now you’ll realize its presentation as a gacha game is a key detail to how it’s structured as a Nier game
Gacha garbage is so frustrating. Can anyone tell me if this is worthwhile if it was a hacked/single player sort of thing much like Hogwarts Mystery is a decent game under the mobile grindathon shit so with a modded APK or better yet that Unity based engine port, you can just play as you wish.
Limbus Company, that Octopath gacha, Magic Awakened, this Nier thing, hell even Genshin..some of these may be worth it if it wasn't for being gacha garbage. At least when they shut down does that mean that someone can basically download and mod the "finished" game into a single player experience or something?
>crying this hard over gacha kino
lmfao
make some money poor-gay and maybe you can play a good game for once
Gacha is good because it filters out poorgays like you
>I can't believe you too poor to eat shit! Look at this deluxe shit over here, FILTERING you!
I hope you're getting shekles for the tonguebath you're giving that corporate anus.
>poorgay knows he'll never even make above average cash
>has to resort to COPING this hard
ROFL
>whale impoverished into ramen-only diet copes with self-induced poverty by showing off .jpg collection
lmao
>At least when they shut down does that mean that someone can basically download and mod the "finished" game into a single player experience or something?
Most likely not. All of these gacha games phone to the main server every couple of seconds to prevent cheating and offline play.
You can name on one hand the number of gachas that were converted to offline after shutting down.
Oh, I know what you mean officially. It would be smart for them to do that, but there are "cracked" APKs of many games (I remember how LuckyPatcher used to work on many of them) that would essentially intercept certain calls, generate limitless amount of premium currency, play offline etc.
Though they'd be smart to make a cheap, officially supported offline or at least non-gacha version, released for PC as well provided they kept it in the $15-20 range they'd do well from a new audience.
the problem is gacha shit infests all parts of the game's design, I played limbus early on for instance, so I can't say anything about story content past chapter 3, but even then the game already suffers greatly because of its design
the story had this meandering quality to it where they each have to travel and plop down to a specific corner of the world to focus on a specific character and their backstory as they're hunting down the specific mcguffins
it doesn't feel like a story that's being told with their own goals or proper themes at the forefront, I won't say they're nonexistent, but they're secondary to the more "practical" real world goals of extracting money from the fanbase, so each chapter has that drab annoying feel of a bunch of fights with boring nameless mooks and pointless filler scenes because they must have "content" in the game, and developments happen at a glacial pace because it must be a "forever" game to make as much money as possible, until inevitably the EOS hits and they either rush out some bullshit or just let the game die unfinished
but I get it, having it for preservation purposes is at the very least preferable than just reading about it on some wiki or watching some random video, I'm just trying to illustrate how the gacha ends up ruining a lot more than mere gameplay or balance, even the story which many people like you claim are the only redeemable parts of many of these games, ends up being sub par or mediocre at best because of these limitations
Oh no you're absolutely right. SHitty monetization affects gameplay design. There are thousands of examples and why the very concept of the gacha or item mall shit being poisonous. i can remember how the Middle Earth Shadow of War example was particularly instructive. At launch even its "gold" edition was designed to encourage people buying essentially lootboxes to get the "good" orcs for your army and similar gacha pulls. When the Definitive Edition overhauled it and turned it into a decent game, it wasn't just taking away the buying, they had to changed the drop rates and other content/grind etc..to ensure that the game was made for a no-gacha/lootbox situation.
Having a game just ported for preservation would be good, but if they actually went through and overhaul'd some of the stupid shit because of gacha monetization that affects other game elements that would help. Though they probaby can't fix everything without making changes to the story from what you say, it would be nice to see them at least make an attempt and claim its a new overhauled and expanded version sold as a complete game.
There are still people spending $100s/month not to mention putting in hours on FFVII Ever Crisis. Imagine my shock when that gets shut down in a year or two. Surprised they haven’t totally axed Brave Exvius yet
>people tick fall for this hack's games because he puts softcore porn in them
get fricked lol
Why do gachahaters pretend that this doesn't happen to every single online game ever made?
Because they love to pretend private servers let you play old online games
Though I'd love if some dead gachas gave you offline mode with infinite currency (or no gacha at all) for $5 because I'd love to replay some of the stories in them.
The reason they don't bother with that is because most of the time there is no game to replay in the first place. Take away the circlejerking community from a gacha and there'd be no reason to play one. The game, the story, the characters are the hooks, but other players that you get to laugh at when they don't get what they rolled for is what makes them stick around.
i feel like a game that takes place between the last replicants dying and the start of the machine war would be prime material for the next nier game
>androids have no primary directive as a whole since the whole gestalt thing was a bust
>memory tree still fricked sideways by kaine's non-stop interference (out of game canon). anything connected to it is similarly fricked.
>devola and popola models are still being hunted down because of the two that went rouge. they've likely started to form a resistance
it wouldnt be hard to come up with an android civil war plot.
anon the game has already done it's big reveals except the ending, it has nothing to do with what you said.
Not a surprise. I figured Applibot were putting all their staff into FFVII Ever Crisis, since this game alone made more money than the lifespan of Nier Reincarnation.
Persona'd reminder
epic
I know I'm a secondary and all that, but I want a Drakengard remake that keeps everything but the shitty gameplay. Hell, even a new one, I'd prefer it to a new NieR, I'm more in for deranged crazy than depressed crazy.
It would be far more censored than it already was. Would be practically nothing left of it if they released it today.
As far as I remember there isn't anything that graphically explicit and the sexual deviancy parts are mostly implied. I don't really believe it would be too obscene, and even then, it's not like they would make it anything more than an cheap outsourced AA release. If Replicanti 1.22 sold enough I think Drakengard could do it too with a little bit of marketing, but I'm no sales expert. What is baffling is that they still haven't even made a simple sequel to Automata, I don't get it.
It's never represented that explicitly no, but the implication of feelings of incest, pedophilia and then there's the child eating woman. I also don't think the mission where you to have to kill a bunch of child soldiers would make it in. I'd love to see it remastered but I'm not confident things wouldn't be cut out entirely.
>What is baffling is that they still haven't even made a simple sequel to Automata, I don't get it.
Yeah I'm not sure why they haven't exploited that success, seems right up SE's alley to do so. I know Taro has said he doesn't want to do sequels/the same thing, but I'd at least have expected a new Nier game.
Nier ……. Reincarnated ………….
Not surprising, somehow the gacha games Yoko Taro is involved in are all boring garbage - yes, even by gacha game standards. I dropped the one he did before that one (which was similar in some ways) quickly and at release of NieR Reincarnation played through all the available content at the time just because it was NieR and some of the little stories were nice, but man became the mechanical flaws apparent and I've seen auto-battle gameplay more exciting from 2D gacha games that were already many years old at the time. Most of the time all there is to these games is collecting characters you like and watch them do cool shit, so there is nothing more deflating than watch them do basic glowing attacks and their ultimate being a slightly bigger basic glowing attack.
I just don't get whose idea it was to make this some kind of shitty autobattler where all you do is farm the same stage 100 times per event. I hope Ever Slop dies just as quickly. Even by gacha game standards, games like this are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Is this the most lore dense entry in the entire series? And they are just throwing it in the bin unceremoniously like that? Won't this cause a huge continuity problem in the main games?
Yes, but this is Taro. He lives off making accessibility to lore difficult.
>Drakengard 3 true ending is in a random novella
>Drakengard 2 is in it's own timeline now than ending A for no reason
>Automata true beginning is in a real life play
>Automata story continues in a fricking FF MMO game, which requires hundred of hours to access
>Nier Replicant has a random novella that gives important story information that you wouldn't get in the actual game, like Kaine having a dick or Nier protag being prostitute at some point
>There's a couple of merchandise that has important story information to them for Automata
You didn't play replicant lol. Kaine is revealed in game immediately in route b.
>Drakengard 2 is in it's own timeline now than ending A for no reason
This is because Taro didn't work on 2.
>Automata true beginning is in a real life play
Pearl Harbor Descent can be read in the terminal in the village.
>information that you wouldn't get in the actual game, like Kaine having a dick
Did you play route B?
Having said that you're not wrong, the storytelling is pretty scattered for this series.
Whats the difference between of shit like puzzles and dragons, Gran Blue or Fate Go which have gone on forever and show no sign of stopping and the average gacha that comes out?
It is exactly as you said, they came out many years ago when the market was less competitive. Now these games have a frickton of players with sunk cost fallacy to keep funding them.
1. attracts new players
>free 2 play
>attractive waifus/husbandos
2. keeps players
>good story
>good gameplay loop
>new players can 'catch up'
3. keeps players hooked
>content coming out every couple of months
4. gets players to start spinning the gacha and paying
>create FOMO with limited time events and characters
>overpowered units that make the limited time events easy can only be gotten through gacha
>limited time overpowered units can only be gotten through the gacha (pic related)
Porn.
2B getting shoved into my face preferably
The only reason automata was successful was that one butthole tweet that every journalist had to turn into a whole fricking article
2b my wife
Why do people play gacha games, wasting thousands on them knowing they will be unplayable in a few years?
Anyone who spends thousands on a game would probably have squandered that money elsewhere anyway.
Hopefully there's an offline version like the megaman gacha
the fights in this game are so piss easy you have no reason to do any gacha at all
I only care about the lore autism part of this game which I hope someone compiles
SINoALICE Global closed in November last year too. Square Enix literally released a billion gachas and a handful is still around
JP closed 8 days ago
I played the game almost every day until last summer, I got top 5 in some arena seasons with a completely F2P account and I could beat basically every PvE encounter at the highest difficulty without any issues. It was incredibly generous for F2P and they even buffed old units to stay competitive with new powercrept versions.
The biggest issue with the game was the lack of PC version, long loadtimes, unresponsive UI and poor performance. Most of these could probably be fixed with a better phone, but I did hear others complain about it regularly enough to think that the game was just too demanding for most user's hardware. Emulation on PC's was also bad in my experience.
Some of the higher end PvE content was also tedious to complete, often having you battle in equipment loadouts for 30minutes, watching menu transitions and then completely decimate the fight itself in autobattle in a couple of minutes.
The story, music and presentation were all top notch and I'm a little surprised it survived for this long since it had a tiny playerbase
For me, it ran best on an iPad weirdly enough. Far less crashes and down times than on a phone and load times/overall performance was smoother than on PC.
Man, Square is shutting down gachas left and right. Seems like the average gacha from Square lives less than a year.
And they're still trying with it I bet.
>Square shuts down their gachas within a year
>wonder why no one forks over money in them
The sad part of this is that all of the major lore implications for Drakengard and Nier will be lost. Factually only a small number of Niergard fans played Rein since it's a mobile gacha and they simply do not like that style of game or overlooked it because...it's a mobile gacha. Now that the game is EOS, all of this story and lore is going to be lost forever and consigned to various obscure Youtube channels at best.
Making Rein a core part of the Nierverse was a huge mistake from the get go and Yoko Taro was a fool for doing that. The devs surely knew from the start that this game wasn't going to last. I can only hope that they repurpose everything into a new game because giving it the Kingdom Hearts treatment (more than they already have) and assuming the player knows all the various bits of information from tens of different sources would be cancerous. Especially as this one is going to be unavailable.
about time
>Taimanin gogo shutdown 6 months after release
>BRS game shutdown 12 months after release
>Picked this up, and it's being shut down too
Have we finally reached the point of gacha saturation? That people are sick of low quality mobile games?
Doesn't help Square Enix has over-saturated their own market and kills any of their gachas, in an attempt to push what ever new Final Fantasy gacha's coming out.
Their oldest FF gacha is like 8 years old at this point, they just keep trying to see if their fans will do multiple
I wonder if they are making any money with their censored absolute israeli dogshit manga reader thing or if that died too
>BRS and Nier gachas shutting down in the same year
>both had a collab with PGR
Is this the new gacha curse?
I stopped playing this after a week when it dropped.
To this date the most perfect ass I've seen in a video game. (Don't know about porn games, or care)
>3 months after Sino
>Within the same year as 404 Game Reset
Fricking moronic gacha zoomers, YOU OWN NOTHING, YOU ARE TRASH
I guess I finally have to catch up on the main story and the dark mission character stories, I've just been at the Arabian spear lady chapter only doing events and dailies for months unable to work up the fricks to give to wander through the cage segments.
Is Master Duel considered a gacha? It's the only phone game I play and I'm 100% f2p
lmao called it
actually, it lasted a bit longer than your typical shart enix gacha "game".
You have 3 months to grind through the canonical Nier 3 and it's story Ganker. Before it's plot is forever lost to youtube summaries.
You don't wanna be playing Nier 4 in 2050 and asking yourself "Humanity revived, when did that happen??? The gacha shit was canon???" do you?
>summaries
You can find every single cutscene on YouTube.
Another anon said it's a different timeliness to the main series, so in the worst case it can actually be safely ignored like drakengsrd 2.
Nier Replicant was spawned from what's essentially the joke ending of DoD by Taro's own admittance. You'd know this if you actually played DoD since Endings A and B provided a more suitably thematic ending for the main story. You really think a singular streamlined timeline dictates what's canon in this franchise?
It was never a joke ending as far as I remember reading, and I have played Drakengard 1. The side story novel has a different ending altogether as well. I meant that if it's entirely self-contained "what if", I can skip it if it has no bearing on the main story, since there are objective canon endings that leads into the story going from Drakengard 3 to Automata. That's why you can safely skip Drakengard 2, for example. As other Anons explained, it's not completely "separated" in the way I thought.
It was a joke ending. They didn't have the budget to crank up the "gotcha" so they kept the Watcher to a blank slate and wrote around that. DoD3's entire premise of idols turning into world-destroying entities was spawned from that very concept of the original joke ending they had in mind.
>As other Anons explained, it's not completely "separated" in the way I thought.
Rein might be its own divergent timeline but it's divergent in the sense that DoD3 concluded and died in a timeline of its own that's independent of anything Nier-related just to wrap up its story. Besides Rein having its own story, it also gave us a better look at the logistics of the whole deal with humanity's moon server after Replicant/Automata. Hell it finally gave us stories of humans fighting monsters spawned from the White Chlorination Syndrome which Yoko Taro was showing off on Twitter when it dropped.
Drakengard 3 had an ending E, which directly leads into Drakengard 1, though, what do you mean? Paths A-D died out, yes, and the Flower was temporarily "contained" in the last game branch, but Ending E is the canon thing that makes the story of Drakengard 1 happen.
Why not offline version like megaman?
Probably not worth the money to make the port.
Just easier to dump the game and then make an anime you can sell retelling the same plot.
It's what they're doing with Sin0 Alices ending.
The movie is just a fan movie
That gay's last real game was released 7 years ago, he's never going to make games again.
Why should he bother when some devs can make a shitty gacha or card game, slap his name on it, and call it a day? morons will throw money at them anyway.
I will care if he ever makes an actual game again
gacha only profits CEOs, just wastes several years of dev, art, music human resources
So this is how this game's going to die in v/ Just some random 152 posters, and that's it. The game will be forgotten. Nier EOS didn't cause chaos. No truck-kun was sent to the developer's office or anything like that. Instead, it ended with a whimper.
this isnt a popular product, nobody cares about this shit. only losers, idiots, and japs/zipperheads of various sorts play non-game gachas
the only real gachas are genshin and honkai star rail which are actual games
Anon that isn’t even a bad post count to posters
barely 4 months notice. this is why i don't put money into gacha slop. it's a pity because the visuals actually look pretty nice in this game, just never played it because it's gacha.
Was it any good like FGO?
Unlike FGO it seems the team decided they knew when they wanted to end the story and not drag on a single arc for 5 years.
If not for the giant pauses, the actual story isn't bad. It's just fricking moronicly stalled beyond comprehension.
That still sounds better than Granblue. It's been 10 years and you can tell the writers for that are now completely burned out
GBF has so much written content but most people skip like 90% of it and just read their waifu/husbando's story. If they don't use AI then they probably have some slave den with a bunch of writers forced to shit out monthly novellas.
Best Nier girl will be forgotten...
That's not Yurie.
Yurie is fine too
people paid money into this...this is the product we're talking about
im sorry but its just so meaningless lol
i will never care about the money i put into genshin and its been hundreds, when it shuts down in 6 or 7 years or whatever i will feel nothing about that. i dont even care about that money *at this point* already with the game still alive
because it's a great game that I enjoyed playing with my wife. it sucks now thoug, but we had hundreds of hours of fun
Why don't people just hack gacha apks to make the paid items free?
? they are network games...your understanding appears to be somewhere in 1993
You can make offline version of network only games, moron
not any of the relevant ones, moron. that's not a generic concept, moron. it depends on how much game logic is server side, moron.
fricking knowledgeless brown kids saying stupid uneducated ignorant shit and then daring to say "moron". you have flip flops on your feet right now and microbes in your water supply right now, get fricked, dirt floor.
Please tell me the whole story is archived on youtube at least
DRAKENGARD 4 WHEN
How come? I thought the game was doing well
Not really surprised honestly. I liked the story and sun and moon was kino as frick but the rest of the game is so fricking mid. It's like they looked at Ico and the last guardian and made the cage based on it but turned it into a walking simulator where you're blocked by auto battle fences. The combat is just semi turn based match the elemental weakness and push the ex skills at the right time to get big multipliers in damage. The actual game part just fricking blew dude.
On the plus side I never spent money as I was just enjoying the story so I lost nothing.
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I’ll continue to not care. Make another Drakengard game you dumb homosexuals
so sorry for your loss nier bros, hopefully you can join us at Nikke
LOL
I fricking hate mobile games especially mobile games that contain canon story. Frick square enix and frick yoko taro.
gacha morons never learn
>gacha is unironically a canon entry in the series
>at least 3 games worth of plot got covered on it
>will no longer exist in any shape or form soon
How SE manages its own stuff legitimately baffles me.
>at least 3 games worth of plot got covered on it
Not only that but some of the character backstories and their setting were interesting enough that they could've warranted their own full game in the series. Truly baffling.
Taro games starting with replicant have the same broken storytelling as Kingdom Hearts which both blue ball their fans forcing them to play garbage entries to get a sliver of story continuation. Is it simply the withholding that gives the story more intrigue or is there some formula to the story that give it appeal? Anyone experienced other media with the same formula?
I know people won't like me saying this because we're in a hardcore fan thread, I mean we're talking about a gacha garbage entrt after all, but I don't think it's nowhere a big a deal as people like to imply
I think this anon alluded to this earlier in the thread when people were overemphasizing the importance of this side shit
in practice they don't matter nowhere near as much as die hards would like to believe, the games themselves work because they have their own self contained narratives with good characters and well explored themes, not because there might be some lore implications on multiverse A-6789-C where the catastrophe of timeline 7 in the year 14980 might've happened 5 years earlier
the drakengard and nier games are perfectly playable without all this side bullshit, now sure I'm not saying it's completely irrelevant, it might expand on things or give flavor to the universe or whatever but that's not why the games themselves are good, their narratives are interesting or why people play them
>side shit
Reincarnation has its own story and cast. You're acting as if being gacha game somehow makes it exempt from having a narrative with fleshed out characters when that's exactly what it is. This isn't just some random nothingburger of a story strung together by bits of lore hidden on the side. The characters hail from various time periods/alt. timelines of human historyand they come together to salvage remnants of humanity with select ones taking the lead of the story.
>Reincarnation has its own story and cast. You're acting as if being gacha game somehow makes it exempt from having a narrative with fleshed out characters when that's exactly what it is.
I never said any of those things, my whole point is that are we really gonna pretend it's as integral and important as you guys are making it out to be to the "canon" or whatever? if a hypothetical Nier 3 comes out, I doubt it will be a "required" experience to have went through this gacha at all, hell it might have call backs to it, but hardly essential, that's my whole point
even the stuff about nier coming from ending E or whatever, do you really think it's taht relevant to the people actually playing nier, understanding its themes and enjoying its characters? hell even automata, which has callbacks to replicant still stands on its own
you people are acting like the taroverse or whatever the frick is some star wars empire strikes back thing where there's a clear cliffhanger for a sequel that's gonna have some crazy continuity when that couldn't be further from the truth, the nier games are thousands of year apart, the drakengard games are thousands of years and even worlds apart, again the crazy universe stuff is not why people play these games
I'm not saying Reincarnation is good or bad, I'm just saying it's nowhere near as relevant as you think it is in the grand scheme of things, just like that one stage play before automata released or that MMO raid thing was
agreed and I never implied otherwise, that's why I said it expands on things and provides flavor to the universe, it's great for hardcore fans wanting that bit more, but let's be honest here, the games are perfectly playable, enjoyable and understandable standalone
I'm not a "canon" autist but it's clear that curious anons were asking from a lore standpoint in terms of its relevancy to the rest of the franchise and people were obviously answering from that standpoint. Even so, shit like that has never stopped Taro from going all-in with writing detailed characters/lore that people can still appreciate in isolation away from the multiversal clusterfrick.
>I doubt it will be a "required" experience to have went through this gacha at all
The same could be said for Replicant and Automata. Hell the entirety of the DoD franchise aren't "required" to enjoy either Nier games for that matter. There's no "required" experience for this shit when even Automata was written with newcomers in mind.
>hell even automata, which has callbacks to replicant still stands on its own
And that's literally what I'm saying. You talk about what it takes for the entry to be "integral" or "important" and if people should gloss over it. That's your choice, but acting like Reincarnation doesn't stand its own just because it manages to connect to the other games is just plain false. Replicant did that. Automata did that. The only difference here is the scale: both Nier games were full-fledged games while this one is a glorified VN/auto-battler in the form of a gacha.
>I'm just saying it's nowhere near as relevant as you think it is in the grand scheme of things, just like that one stage play before automata released or that MMO raid thing was
Not at all the same. By all means, treat Reincarnation as a spinoff game, but it's not even remotely comparable to the short length of content and story from the Yorha Stage Play or FF MMO raid. Whether or not you think it's "important" or worth your time isn't for me to decide but you're just being wilfully ignorant if you think it's some miniscule project that "hardcore fans" are somehow overinflating it.
They are, which is why only autistic Taro fans like me are upset about Reincarnation, probably. The average fan who played only Automata and maybe the Steam release of Nier probably wouldn't care, yes. Once again, the argument isn't that they should, the argument is it makes no sense to lock shit only hardcore fans care about behind useless trash like gacha, when at least mostly everything else is fairly easily accessible, because it's nearly all text-based.
The black Flower is likely created by God/The Watchers as the ultimate parasite to infect and destroy humanity from the inside.
The Mercurius Gate was created to SEAL the Flower by whoever sealed it inside, so probably the likes of Accord and whoever created her, because they realized they could not destroy it, but possibly hoped that actual humans, with the power of Maso and Dragons, COULD find a way in the future.
Bartus is some Android most likely created in the Kingdom of Night, like Accord, who likely had the most cutting edge technology they had access to at all, and I believe was also fused with maso, which I also think is the case for Accord. These two are a mix of insanely advanced technology and literal magic, and that's why Bartus CANNOT be killed, no matter what happens. He likely was created in a process similar to the dragons (Dragons were created in the Kingdom of Night)... When a dragon dies, he reincarnates as a much younger version if himself, like Michael and Mikhail. Therefore, Bartus most likely is an android that literally has dragon "DNA"/maso and mechanical parts of impossibly advanced make.
We still don't know why Dragons are "natural enemies of the flower" EXACTLY, but since we know dragons were created by Androids in the Kingdom of Night and were brought to the Drakengard 3 world via the Cathedral City.. Well, it stands to reason THAT'S why they were brought there, to give humanity more of a chance to defeat the flower, even though those who SENT them over did not find a way to. They were DESIGNED to combat the flower, and the androids hoped whoever received all this maso, technology and stuff could one day reach a point where they can challenge and defeat the flower.. Perhaps because the creators were androids and not human and therefore somehow could not interact with the Watchers or the Flower, I don't know exactly.
I'll go on to add, but this is also exactly why I think Reincarnation struggled as a gacha in the first place, even amongst its small number of fans. The whole thing is written with narrative/lore in mind as its priority even though the success of gacha games always depend on character popularity, more or less pitting sexy anime characters against each other to get players to pay up for the next hot character.
Reincarnation doesn't do that, opting for a set cast and some aren't even designed for that same appeal. Certain characters were obviously written solely as vehicles for world-building that could've worked in an actual game (the bald couple comes into mind) but they don't really work in the context of a gacha. There are clues that the game was probably meant to have more player freedom until they settled on a generic auto-battler. Nevermind that they went for fully-rendered 3D models for every single character costume, as opposed to just being a turn-based jpeg collector so they basically bled themselves dry even for the unpopular characters (imagine having Pascal or .
I genuinely don't know why they thought all of this was a good way to handle a gacha but frick it, I enjoyed my time with the characters and story well enough. At least it actually managed to end before croaking on itself which can't be said for a lot of other gacha.
*imagine having Pascal or Octa as a playable character while expecting people to pay for their costumes
You are right in the sense that it's not mandatory to read every novella, guide entry, weapon story, and short story and manga to enjoy the games as their own thing, but if you like the style and universe and the concept of a timeline "loop" fascinates you, or you just want more of the same-feeling stuff, the extra materials are really good. You don't need to know that Brother Nier-timeline NieR sold himself into sex slavery to pay for Yonah's medicine, but it adds to the character. You don't NEED to know the Fire of Prometheus story, but it adds to both the NieR and Automata lore. You don't NEED to know that the Cathedral City has Automata-age technology and script and Accord and an Android far beyond what we have ever seen with insane regeneration appears, but it adds to the overall story, etc.
See what I mean? If you are big on the way Taro tells his stories, you will naturally seek out extra details. And this, as I have learned today, actually has details on some of the least explored parts of the overall plot, which is pretty good, even if it's not "our" timeline, but remember, Accord has been hopping timelines for about 5000 years to find a way to undo Ending E of Drakengard, even though every thread around a singularity ends in failure. So AU or not, this IS important to the overall universe.
Who the frick is Bartas?
What the frick is the Mercurius Gate?
What the frick is the Flower? Its probably made by the watchers but its worked against other agents of the watchers? Why is that?
None of this information actualy matters
>What the frick is the Flower?
Yes that flower is part of the black flower, it germinated in Zeros body and made her an intoner.
How? Why? What is it even?
idk but it spawned some hot girls
i'll miss these characters
Megaman x Dive
Final Fantasy Dimensions II
What other gachas had an offline mode after eos? Those two are the only ones i can think of
SINo kind of does. You can view your collection and the app becomes "The Story That Was Once SINoALICE"
Eh destiny's child did that too but it's more like a jpeg gallery than anything else. You can't actually play the game
Castlevania Grimore of Souls was revived as an Apple Arcade Exclusive.
Dandy Dungeon was given a Switch and PC Port after being shut down.
Dragon Quest Monsters Super Light is getting a stripped down version of the game that's basically a score attack mode.
Egglia got a Switch port and got the other chapters that were originally untranslated before it EOS'd
I installed blue archive the other day because I felt obligated after fapping to so many characters from it. Jesus, what kind of brainrot does one need to have to enjoy this fricking garbage. GachaBlack folk are just not sentient
i actually switched to Blue Archive as my main gacha, mainly because to how they handle the systems and dailies, performance doesn't take ages to load even on emulator like Nier does.
Power creep is a bit of a meme but at least 99% of the characters they make have at least a niche use like specific raids and JFDs. You don't have to go full min max autism with upgrading characters like weapon switching in subjugation have, just upgrade equipment and skills and that's it.
For a game that was also on the path to EoS they really managed to handle it very well
I haven't even heard of this game. What is it?
Yoko Taro uses gacha money to travel to Disneyworld and buy alot of alcohol
Japan tends to do a lot of these 1 year gacha. It's not really strange
Many such cases!
Angelus boss fight wasted on shitty gacha
WHAT THE FRICK
I hope Yoko Taro falls into a depression and realizes he can remake Drakengard into his magnum opus. All he needs to do is fix the combat and update the presentation of the plot. Don't tone anything down. Put in a incest wins ending. Put in nods to everything he's made. Launch an entirely new franchise from the ashes of the past. DO IT TARO.
That'd require for Yokotaro to even care that Caim exists as a character.
He didn't even get referenced in Reincarnation, despite there being a pseudo-Angelus boss fight and a character who's a clone of another character that's implied to have shit done to her and Angelus' corpse for experiments. And Drakengard 3 getting a direct collab
yes I'm sure SE will still publish that
S T O P
So wait if the whole thing is an AU, doesn't that make it pointless?
When your whole world is built on timelines and multiple endings and branches. Being an alternate universe where you may win is as canon as you might as well be. Because the true timeline is hardly consistent and it's just a bunch of key events that happen in multiple branches
Nier's timeline has been pretty linear, thats what i meant. It's still pretty entertaining so whatever.
Not quite true. There is one specific set of events that leads to a linear timeline for what we have had so FAR - from Drakengard 3 to Automata and beyond, it's just that at every point along the way there are divergences. This also means that events on one of the divergences may circle back and affect the main path itself, though, which is why locking this to a gacha is, again, a travesty.
No, because as we discussed already, there is a character in the universe whose specific purpose is to go to different timelines, she has existed since Drakengard 3. And the events in this ARE related to the actual universe. I asked the same question.
Not exactly.
The meta narrative of the Yoko games are spread out over totally canon AU stuff.
Its cool but incredibly annoying
Oh good, the game got to conclude. Do you people think a gacha is meant to run forever and ever?
Sure do love when mobile shit has important story bits and then gets shut down forever.
Every Japanese writer is trying to become Nasu and make their own Grand Order. Has that worked even once?
I cant see it ever working, autism was different back in the day.
You could write about a magic vision boy who can cut the life out of chairs with a straight face and people would eat it up and call it genius.
Nope. The big Gacha games in Japan now are Genshin, Honkai Star Rail , Uma, Blue Archive, Nikke and of course Grand Order itself. Besides Fate, none of them are based on existing franchises.
it wont matter anything square enix touches will die at least in spirit
washed up mid publisher
While on the topic of Nier, Replicant was the best story Taro has done
Drakengard 3 is better.
I enjoyed 3 a lot more after I read the book
What book?
It was a short book that came with my special edition, I think the info in it was free online too but I dont know where
Could be in Accord's Library. I hate myself how I like the lore of the games, but I can't seem to sit down and focus and read the extra materials.
Maybe I'll try the Voice of Cards games next to scratch the itch.
Well if you find the time I thikn the book is just called 'prelude' its short at 180 pages but it gives a lot of context to Drakengard 3
I wish I could shit out bad products and be economically hostile and still get buried in NEETbux from (You) all. Sadly I need a marketing budget first. It's not fair man, I wanna rip off dumb fricking losers too.
good
frick mobile shit
put out a proper taro game or don't talk to me
GFL gets to live for another month.
I don't understand, how expensive are gachas to maintain? Everything about thems seems to be passive income for developers.
See
Most gachas are jpeg collectors but somehow Taro and Squeenix thought it was a good idea to create unique models for every single character and their costumes as if it was a full game. Pretty sure it wasn't cheap to maintain and I'm honestly surprised it lasted this long.
The gachas that last are the ones that cater to a market that actually has money, in a way that will actually take their money. All of these games depend on a relatively small number of whales, not masses of small spenders. If your playerbase doesn't have whale money, and proper reasons to whale, you won't make money. Servers and maintenance staff are a fixed cost, let alone writers, artists, actors, coders, etc. to actually make new stuff to keep people coming back.
>selling jpegs is too cost ineffective for Square
Are they the worst managed company in the industry? How do they do it?
They weren't selling JPGs for starters.
>They weren't selling JPGs
As a gacha that's all it boils down to, sounds like a management issue to me.
I tried it when it launched and the color palette and it having the most boring character designs ever is all I got out of it.
Why the frick can't you just make a new console game like what everyone wants
Because Yoko Taro is a one-hit wonder. All his good ideas were used up in Automata (most of which are reused from Nier 1), meaning he cannot replicate it again without being called out.
Most NieR themes were already present in Drakengard lol. Thematically he keeps going back to the same stuff.
Because Squeenix has his hands tied. They basically dumped Taro on mobile duty for muliple gacha games in hopes that his name alone was enough. Also this was basically their way of beta testing Ever Crisis (same studio and engine) so now they're axing it with the latter already up and running.
?
>What's next for the series?
Gay dating sim
Thread is dying, time for music
It's crazy how much more empty the village seems without this song
Returning to the fountain to just hear Popola sing, damn, good times. I truly loved the atmosphere.
I hate and love this song so much. Love it for obvious reasons, hate it because of what happens to Devola and Popola in Automata. Everything was a huge fricking "nobody wins" situation, man. Yet nobody was wrong.
"No one stops."
And when I stumbled into that fricking library in Automata, damn. Memories flooded back. I had to sit there and think.
God damn it I am sad again.
What sick frick installed them with guilt like jesus christ it wasn't even that pairs fault
I don't know, dude, that's unnecessarily fricking cruel.
It wasn't the originals fault necessary, either - it's not like the Project predicted Replicants not only going sentient, but even the Shadowlord rebelling, and Nier becoming so strong that they can't force the failsafe or Weiss losing his memories are not things anyone anticipated. And as much as you felt like they were villains, ultimately, they were fighting for the survival of humanity, and to be painted as the reason humanity is gone is just so fricked..
Humanity was fricked the second queen beast landed. The rest was just over 6000's years of humanity slowly wilting away. Drakengard timeline saved at the cost of nier's being completely fricked, hope it was worth it
Caim, Angelus, Furiae, pretty much everyone is fricking DEAD, too, and those who are left of the cast aren't exactly great people. A pyrrhic victory isn't even close to how shit this outcome is.
Isn't there a Yoko Taro general on /vg/
The gameplay in Reincarnation holds no value. Just watch a recording of cutscenes on Youtube if you care.
Everything that lives is designed to end.
my PSX CDs will probably outlive me
WHEN I SAY "YOU OWN NOTHING" YOU SAY "I AM HAPPY"
YOU OWN NOTHING
wow
Fricking bullshit.
What a huge moron putting all that stuff behind a shitty gacha. Why can't he work again with Replicant/Drakengard writer and make a novel, since he won't ever make actual games again.
blame Squareenix for being huge morons when it comes to marketing, guess that's why they changed Presidents a few months ago
Fricking legion wasted on a gacha, christ
I decided to start playing the game since it's got EOS in less than 3 months. All of the stories so far are Weapon Stories. Which in Nier and Drakengard they almost always had downer endings at best. And so far none of the jpegs are halfway decent. No wonder it's got no playerbase.
I CLAPPED
I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW A THING I RECOGNIZE
I want a singleplayer (offline) gacha-style game with serviceable story and cute characters.
Just let me own my slop
This unironically. Just let me have the game as keepsake goddammit.
Square is shit and a joke, stop giving these moronic japs money
Joining the ACK.
I believe if this game had a pc port a lot of people would have paid and played. I don't understand why you would make a grind heavy game and make it solely on phone and tablet devices.
Start dumping some of the best coom jpegs from the game before the thread dies
I know 2B has some literal stripper-tier outfits
we had a few
As much as I loved NieR Automata... they joined in the gacha craze way too late when it was already oversaturated.
People aren't just gonna up and quit whatever they were playing just to play NieR Reincarnation. Esepcially the ones who spent money on whatever they started.
Any other based NIKKERs here? I feel like they are spiritually in line with NieR, it would be great if they made the NieR gatcha with Yoko instead
>I feel like they are spiritually in line with NieR
how's reincarnation's story and is it possible to preserve it
last i heard, sinoalice closed and you can still see the events and story in youtube.
i just really worry about the art and music.
its one of the main thing i regret after dropping sino alice after 5 months
it's better than automata's and most of it is already on YouTube
there's people archiving the story and lore on several websites like https://nierrein.guide/
thank you for the lead anon
it really feels scary how a story's tie-in-piece or parts could just vanish from the face of the earth because of eos
Frick GaaS.
rip