>After consulting with an unnamed "someone with legal experience" (Sharpie would only say "they claimed three years of law school"), the Suyu development team has decided to avoid "any monetization," Sharpie said.
>The project's GitLab page clearly states that "we do not intend to make money or profit from this project," an important declaration after Nintendo cited Yuzu's profitability a few times in its recent lawsuit.
>Other emulator makers also told Ars that Yuzu's Patreon opened the project up to a set of pesky consumer demands and expectations.
>The Suyu devs have also been warned against "providing step-by-step guides" like the ones that Yuzu offered for how to play copyrighted games on their emulator.
>Those guides were a major focus of Nintendo's lawsuit, as were some examples of developer conversations in the Yuzu Discord that seemed to acknowledge and condone piracy.
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>Sue You
jej
suhoo? sumi! no, wait suyu
What you think, ah!
What you feel, now
What you know, ah!
To be real!
bing bing sahoo
i can't believe i didn't notice that
gotta admir that name is fricking genious
>SU YU
>SUE ME
>TENDIE MAN, TENDIE MAN
goddamn it's been a while.
NIHON BREAK KOGYO!
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DA DA DA!~
lel, they're asking for it
i mean, nintendo can't sue them if they sue Nintendo first, is that how it works, right?
I thought this was a meme project?
Am I confused with another guy?
you're thinking of Nuzu, made by some kid with no coding experience who wanted to shill his pateron.
literally who
They should name the citra emulator sussie.
android version when?
Based Nintendo with one action
>filtered morons that need tutorials to use emulators
>filtered paypiggies so emulators can be free like the old days
Too bad i don't give a frick about yuzu's baby, citra is the only tragic death.
I'm not even sure if citra died or will be revived by this, given it was being ignored by the dev team and now have several copies over the internet.
Now the question is, wait until someone reconfigures the sourcecode of citra into something newly named, or is there an alternative that can stand up to it?
old news, it's called Lime
>citra is the only tragic death
It really isn't.
https://github.com/RyzenDew/Lime-3DS-Emulator
morons that need tutorials to use emulators
the tutorials will still exist they'll just be random reddit posts or some shit and not hosted by the emu devs
>DMCA's you
Switch has nothing worth emulating
Emulating Legends for free was fun, got me more hyped for Palworld.
Why? They have nothing in common.
Metroid Dread is pretty great.
Unless you're David Jaffe.
I consider Unicorn Overlord to be very much worth emulating right now. Especially because it's pretty much the only way you can play it on PC since the devs refuse to acknowledge it as a legitimate platform.
game is too boring people only play for the character designs
disgaea 6 was a switch exclusive for like a year, wasn't it? so switch used to have one game worth emulating, but now it has a pc port.
Guess all that seething and coping was just bots
They just got the only game worth emulating, Unicorn Overlord.
It's [SPOILER]kinda boring[/SPOILER]
Xenoblade Chronicles DE is the only game I've emulated and it was on Ryujinx because it ran like shit on Yuzu at the time. Great game.
I disagree
Bayonetta 3 doesnt run past 15fps and stutters like frick though.
It's odd because B2 runs flawlessly
I have only completed Bayo 2, BOTW and TOTK and I am currently playing Mario Odyssey, I normally run for a bit every game I download to see if it runs, I don't remember having any issues with Bayo 3.
I know your lying but try harder. Everyone knows B3 runs like shit.
It has audio sync problems with the cut scenes.
Ryujinx morons out with the shaders.
Gameplay runs at 15-20fps. Only 30 in remote areas.
Ctd on ryujinx alot if it does manage to load.
It's practically unplayable
It ran at 60fps for me even with the improved LOD mod, on a 3070
Nice try anon. I know this place has liars (Just look at all the tendies claiming yuzu users are going to jail) but seriously come on
What kind of shitbox potato PC are you trying to run it on? Even a mid-range build handles it just fine at 60fps.
>he doesn't have RDR on PS2
acutally ngmi
>another code recollection
Is that new or a remake/port, didnt play vidya for a while
Jrpg's aren't games they are dogshit made by slant eyes.
That's not what this board thinks every time a new Switch game leaks.
leaked games are barely playable on emulator, moron
only on Yuzu because it was a hacked-together pile of shit, they usually work fine on Ryujinx
I agree. My Switch is just collecting dust. I don't why anons would pirate games.
If I'm interested in a game, I'll buy it and probably download a crack for archiving reasons.
If not, then I just won't play it. I'm genuinely uninterested with Nintendo products.
If my cousins family really wants my Switch, I'll probably just give it to them.
has nothing worth emulating
I prefer to emulate all the switch ports of old games instead of downloading a super sus exe.
Just one level into Astral Chain and I've already took 30 screencaps of that ass.
The real issue isn't Nintendo striking down open-source forks that'll prong up again like a hydra, it's that it's rare that you have people who are both competent enough to actually develop an emulator and who are interested in making one out of passion without being israelites trying to monetize it. Nothing from these "devs" has assured me that they've fulfilled these two conditions.
Well it's close to the end of life of the console.
So if it was a good emulator people will be able to to maintain it. I don't think switch 2 emulation will be as good as switch emulation, they got rid of the really good programmer.
> don't think switch 2 emulation will be as good as switch emulation,
I have a feeling Switch 2 architecture is old enough, and similar enough to the Switch that it's not going to require a huge undertaking to crack.
Can you dump a key without hacking your console first? If not, then switch 2 emulator wont work
the roms require a key. therefore the roms also contain a key print.
the process for obtaining a decryption key can be made into an .exe. you don't need to use a console.
there are also streamlined exes that just decrypt roms for you.
even so, Yuzu wouldnt make those programs, therefore they are not the ones providing them.
and im sure any moron who claims 'Yuzu distributes leaks/has a rom repo' are just morons.
>It's rare
>Ignores 99% of emulators in existence
What are you talking about
there is literally nothing fricking wrong with someone trying to monetize their product
frick off with this moronic take
nobody ever agrees with you yet you keep trying to samegay every time to think more than one person thinks this way
>there is literally nothing fricking wrong with someone trying to monetize their product
Tell that to Nintendo's lawyers.
>jewtendo's legal counsel are the arbiters of truth
wow you have opened my eyes. courts are nothing compared to the influence and power of multinational corporations
>there is literally nothing fricking wrong with someone trying to monetize their product
American moment. These subhuman israelites would monetize their grandmothers flapping pussy if they could.
>REEE CAPITALISM BAD REEEE
The reason yuzu got sued is because they were charging for patches that specifically fixed TOTK issues before TOTK had even launched. At that point you've gone way way beyond your rights to backups and reverse engineered code and are very probably charging to infringe on Nintendo copyrights
>patches that specifically fixed TOTK issues before TOTK had even launched
debunked you revisionist homosexual. see
thank you for playing
Anon the devs literally chatted in their discord about specific issues with TOTK they were working on
Emulation that isn't based on stolen documentation or explicitly made to violate copyright is still perfectly legal
That's nice and all, but what about Citra?
Genuine question, given that the emulator is 100% homemade, what's the issue with profiting off it?
Nintendo personally takes issue with it and they have more money and legal power than any individual working on emulators within the USA.
Basically whatever they say is illegal is illegal because they have more money than you.
Until someone actually fights against one of Nintendo's lawsuits and gets some case law set instead of settling then Nintendo can do pretty much whatever it wants.
Them profiting off of it wasn't anything they cited in their suit against it, it just seems like an Nintendo tends to go after projects that take money. That's not always the case though, they have shut down completely free things where the developer doesn't pay well. Anything, the missing link ROM hack for oot is one off the top of my head.
supposedly the issue isn't necessarily getting money, it's paywalling. TotK near launch was only playable on the yuzu paid early access build, effectively making money directly off of TotK.
Take everything you hear with a grain of salt though, since Yuzu devs were such incompetent morons they had to settle, so there's no legal precedent to go off of.
Rumors say that someone in the Yuzu team made updates to the emulator based on an illegal ROM version to the game and released it on their Patreon. If this is the case and Nintendo had evidence about it, then it makes sense that they had to settle.
>muh money
you lawlet morons keep insisting that the homosexualtreon shit had anything to do with it
jewtendo could have sued them all the same even if they hadn't made a dime. the thing is they hate anyone earning money in particular because it makes the project self-sustaining instead of just a money sink
If money was not the reason then they could have gone after so many emulators already. But they didn't because they don't have any legal basis to do it.
>correlation = causation
room-temperature IQ spotted. not getting sued doesn't mean you're in the clear (or in the wrong)
if your claim is that the money is the basis of the lawsuit, then prove that it was.
Read the filing. It literally tells you the reason for the lawsuit is because of lost revenue from ToTK sales from an early build of Yuzu in their Patreon page. They sprinkled "emulation = illegal" all over their document because they knew they were gonna win the court case anyways.
>game gets leaked early
>people pirate it
emulators have nothing to do with that moron.
Anon, it's more like
>Game gets leaked early
>Doesn't run well on any emulator at the moment
>Suddenly one emulator team posts an early release build behind their paywall that makes said game run well out of nowhere, well before the game's official release date
>Angsty teenagers emulate it instead of playing it because they're too impatient
>Emulator team makes record profits
you know full well the real problem was the homosexuals shared games and keys on their pisscuck.
the emulator had nothing to do with it.
They could still dispute the lawsuit if it was just their pisscuck because morons will be morons on any platform
The problem is that the dev team itself was also
engaging in piracy AND were stupid enough to leave a trace of this activity in their Patreon
>what's the issue with profiting off it?
nothing
Legally? Strictly speaking, nothing. There's no law or legal precedent AFAIK that makes it OK if free, forbidden if paid.
But it may attract more attention from Nintendo, and the consolidated nature of paid development vs the distributed nature of open source development might make it less work to construct a lawsuit.
this. Nintendo is already hostile to emulators and such, but if you have a patreon or some income attached to it, it makes sense they would bump you up on their hit list
thing is, most emulator devs don't have the money to spend or will to risk worse penalties in a direct court case, despite the fact they could probably make a decent case.
there is no issue and anyone saying otherwise is either a tendie shill or just plain fricking moronic
Because it shits up the community you triple homosexual.
That's what the grey area is about.
There's nothing stopping them making money off an emulator.
But they have to be careful they aren't circumventing anything even remotely from the thing they are emulating.
Yuzu's problem was that it was only used for piracy, it didn't work without the cryptokeys the switch needs to run games.
Other emulators walk that grey line where they need to show that they aren't intended to bypass copyright, aren't distributing propietary software (like playstation 2's BIOS, which is why emulators don't come with it)
Emulators will be phased out, it's suprisingly easy to checkmate copycat programs by making it not work without a key piece.
>it didn't work without the cryptokeys
Does Ryujinx?
>given that the emulator is 100% homemade, what's the issue with profiting off it?
The game files are encrypted with a patented encryption software and the cracker in order to play the games on emulator is a violation of the patent. There is no reasonable possibility that their single product of a switch emulator happens to also have independently created a random cracker that accidentally happened to be identical to nintendo's patented encryption, the possibility given true random odds is one in septillions. Therefore they intentionally and knowingly violated the patent.
Nothing just don't lock builds behind a paywall with step by step instructions on how to play games that aren't out yet.
Basically if a game isn't released don't publicly admit any changes you have made are to emulate that game better. Just shut the frick up.
>sue you
cheeky li'l c**ts
Emulator chads always win.
>we do not intend to make money or profit from this project
Translation
>we need to find a way to make money off this emulator
They never learn.
NOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN TRANS PEOPLE: NINTENDOOOOO YOU WILL PAY!!!!
That you think anyone will fall for this must be profound mental moronation.
>heim coinberg constantly shits on trannies
>Ganker gladly laps up their propaganda
hmmm...
>look up who invented troonyism and who is behind all the organizations pushing it
oh
If there was a honeypot that lured out corporate bootlickers and they all got brutally killed, it might lead to a future utopia.
I hope Nintendo frickfaces seethe eternally at Ryujinx being in Brazil with no way to pressure the devs, and Suyu for giving them the finger.
Nintendo are the most anti-consumer, most fan-loathing fricking company on this planet
>not catering to thieves
>"anti-consumer"
>YES GOY PAY MONTHLY TO PLAY OLD GAMES LET US DOUBLE-DIP REBUY YOUR GAMES EACH GENERATION
shalom
>troony argument
you bought a game for that system and are still able to play it on said system, no law is going to mandate they you should be allowed to play it on all of their hardware going forward.
>why yes let's just forget about Nintendo taking down all free fan project games for multiple years for no damn reason other than being giant fricking c**ts
How does that relate to theft you bootlicking israelite?
nice
Why would I use this when RyujinX already exists?
you could in ryujinx, in firmware 3.0, pic rel, but they are not interested in doing it with the new versions
it's great when they add new things, it's more options to play, or make things more enjoyable to run, like steam big picture
I don't care about them
How do you "build" like it says in the image?
https://github.com/Ryujinx/Ryujinx?tab=readme-ov-file#building
Cool now if only I could get Ryujinx Ava to stop crashing for me when playing.
just use the current suyu build with the last firmware
https://gitlab.com/suyu-emu/suyu/-/wikis/home#usage
>emulating emulated games
hardcore trooning
>do shit for actual emulation instead of e-clout chasing and making Patreon dollars
>don't use Discord to share roms
>it is now legal
Crazy how things were always legal until Discord troonyism and Patreon got involved
When did this website become full of moralgayging redditors
The argument isn't about morals.
The lack of or presence of the exchange of money isn't about morals, it's about being a prostitute.
>paypigs funding an emulator's development you can get by googling pineapple-ea is le bad, based corporation
i don't give a frick if people wanna fork over money because the end result is functioning emulators in a timespan of less than 20 years like dolphin's took.
The problem was in order to get paypigs, they were handing out early access builds with specific fixes for specific games. Which spoke about their intent and greatly weakened their case.
What they should have done is just release builds with no comments about specific games, keep all comments technical, and when asked about whether X or Y game now works, answer that you don't know. It's that simple.
>they were handing out early access builds with specific fixes for specific games.
>google "yuzu early access"
>First result is pineapple-ea github
People who lack literally any resourcefulness I'm surprised even have a stake in switch piracy.
Unless you're arguing their EA builds fixed zelda prior to release, which they didn't.
t. had to shuffle between Black person rigged ryujinx and yuzu forks for 2 weeks until release
nintendo clitties our response?
Just release your code anonymously using multi-layered proxies. It's not that hard.
Rangebans already exists, also don't forget the FBI is right.
> Proxy.
> Not uploading from a private porno viewing booth at a sex shop so that Nintendo lawyers have to rifle through used kleenex to try and take you down.
One job.
>multiple proxy access points spread across the country
>all of them wireless and stuck inside septic tanks
imagine
As a Ryujinxchad, I say, Frick yuzu, suyu and whoever else
Really shows how moronic anyone who cares about Nintendo games is. Yuzu was never in any legal grey area. It is totally legal just like any other emulator. Yuzu devs just fricked up by uploading and sharing roms with each other through a Google drive so Nintendo could blackmail them.
>Yuzu was never in any legal grey area
Yes they were. DMCA says you can't circumvent DRM measures put in place by IP holders such encryption. Yuzu had to decrypt Switch games to run them. Nintendo alleged that this was illegal even though the devs themselves didn't distribute the keys since the program was decrypting their games. The fact the devs were pirating games and also profiting off of their early access shit just makes it incredibly easy to characterize the developers as thieves and criminals which is likely why they were advised to just settle.
>Yuzu had to decrypt Switch games to run them
Sorry if it's a dumb question, but did/ does Ryujinx also do this? or just Yuzu
Yes Ryujinx also does this. Every emulator since gen 6 employs some method of encryption that emulators have to bypass to play the games which is why (most) of them require you to provide firmware dumped from a real console.
so you mean moronic americlaps mentioning the DMCA like that homosexual at
should be ignored?
thanks
I don't know why you're seething. Yuzu and emulation in general is a legally grey area when it involves decrypting games. There's a serious case to be made that it's totally legal which is why Nintendo picked the absolute lowest hanging fruit with developers openly pirating to pursue.
>ameritard doubles down
begone, 3rd worlder gremlin. adults are talking.
I don't think you understand what I'm saying
>Nintendo said making software for decrypting their games is illegal, even if the software doesn't provide say encryption keys
>There is literally zero case law that has set any precedent over indirectly decrypting games like this is illegal
>Yuzu devs would be arguing that it's totally legal had it went to court and they settled
>Nintendo presented a bunch of dirt they had on the developers where they brag about their huge stash of pirated switch games, so if the case went to court, they'd just focus on the devs being pirates themselves which would likely make a jury side with Nintendo.
Until someone actually fights Nintendo in court and there's a ruling on the matter it will literally always be in a legally grey area. That's just how it is.
said that
they're not a judge. post discarded
That's how civil cases work. You file a complaint and allege that someone broke X law and if the court is willing to hear the case you either fight it or settle.
Stop and ask yourself why Nintendo picked Yuzu specifically to go after. They've known about emulators since the N64, where they lost a case against it. They don't want to lose another case involving emulation because it would be disastrous for them. Their strategy is
>Find people who are doing questionably legal things but who they can easily just paint as thieves profiting off of piracy
>The people in question settle since they'd be moronic not to
>Hopefully people get spooked and stop doing it
If they went against someone like Dolphin or Ryujinx who weren't doing a bunch of shady shit and bragging about it then they'd risk losing the case and setting an actual precedent against themselves.
so
>yuzu team got sued for leaking the game
>and israelitetendo tacked on "pls maek emulater illegil, kthx"
squinteyes are turbo israelites
No they got sued for making software which nintendo alleges violates the DMCA since its function is to decrypt switch games and providing instructions on how to get the encryption keys. There's no actual case law for this kind of thing. The issue is the Yuzu devs themselves were doing other illegal shit that would make Nintendo's case much stronger. They can't really argue muh game preservation when they have proof of them pirating shit.
>There is no case law
You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about about, the legal issues surrounding the bypassing of encryption are extremely well trodden.
Where's the case law regarding writing software that decrypts games via keys you have to supply yourself from your own hardware? If you can find it Nintendo forward it to Nintendo's lawyers and they can raze every emulator since the gamecube if they so choose.
Do you not know about HDCP strippers?
shh don't spoonfeed copytards. let them wallow in their own stupidity.
These devices come with the HDCP master key built in. So yeah, they're illegal. Yuzu would be unquestionably illegal if it shipped with the switch firmware.
No, they aren't illegal that is why I asked why you knew about them lmao. You're a fricking moron who knows nothing about the law so just stop posting already moron.
B-BUT
>MUH DMCA
I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG
>No, they aren't illegal
They are though lol. At least in the states.
>since its function is to decrypt switch games
>decrypt
play switch games
are you gonna start spouting RIAA talking points and claim bittorrent and other P2P protocols are pirate tools?
>Nintendo said
and I’m the king of england
Not a crime to own pirated games, It's a crime to sell pirated games.
Copyright laws only come into effect if you make a profit using the copyright you do not own.
Yuzu was only fricked because of it's "early access" patreon and their entire lawsuit would have been proving that they weren't selling the emulator/roms.
nintendo does not have a copyright to yuzu’s source code, moron
yuzu devs were within their right to charge for it if they wanted to
I didn't say they did but it's literally the only reason nintendo went after them. Because there was money involved.
Copyright law is to protect your right to SELL something you created. That's what the entire branch of copyright law exists for.
To stop people profiting of others work. At least that's the spirit of the law.
No I doubt telling other people how to "do it yourself" break encryption wouldn't count as piracy, this would be like telling someone how to replace a car part.
I agree, they stole a lot of money out of people wanting early-access emulation when other emulators fricking exist. It was a massive scam and yuzu devs deserved the rope.
>Copyright law is to protect your right to SELL something you created
read the law you stupid moron. the actual law.
if your moronic logic were true, then corporations wouldn't shut down fan-games.
moron lawlet.
It's still about money
Why pay for that IP's game when you can play a fan version of it that's completely free?
you said projects were legal if they didn't make money.
have a nice day lawlet.
I'm not that anon
And no, I never said that. Free projects can hurt sales of other IPs
>No I doubt telling other people how to "do it yourself" break encryption wouldn't count as piracy
Well DMCA just says you can't break an IP holder's DRM like encryption and doesn't go any further than that which is why this case would just be about Nintendo proving Yuzu was about piracy which would be pretty easy with how the devs conducted themselves. You're not dealing with any arbiters of real truth, you just have to get a jury of normalgays to side with you. If they had a strong case they had the funds to fight it, they were making 30k/month + whatever money they were stockpiling over the past 5 years.
Copyright exists to protect the ownership of your own intellectual properties and works, period. It has nothing to do with whether the thing is sold or not. There is a reason most FOSS on the planet has a copyright despite being completely free of charge. In fact, even if you didn’t have a copyright, the copyright is naturally, implicitly applied for anything you create unless you explicitly say otherwise like open domain.
No it don't.
All it does is book burning and endless sequels.
>Copyright exists to protect the ownership of your own intellectual properties and works, period.
No. It ceased being that long ago.
It exists to protect corporate extortion rackets.
>It exists to protect corporate extortion rackets.
OY VEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>Copyright laws only come into effect if you make a profit using the copyright you do not own.
>only come into effect if you make a profit
illiterate lawlet. I hope you get raped by your mailman, hairdresser, and the fat b***h behind the counter at the DMV.
No the case was about them providing instructions on how to dump encryption keys for switch games, which they claim was piracy. Whether or not that's true is extremely questionable but the party they were suing would be incredibly easy to get a court to side against because their claims of yuzu being about piracy hold much stronger when the developers are pirates.
You can't disprove something that you're actively doing. The yuzu "devs" were thieves. And anyone who paid for emulation is a pathetic cuck.
That is not even remotely true, it is illegal to be in possession of copyrighted materials if you don't have a license to have them. Making a profit is completely irrelevant to the law and the only impact it could have is increasing the damages you have to pay if taking to court and you lose.
>You need a license to have copyright material
This is always hilarious because this is like saying if you rent a book from the library, you do not have a license for the copyright of the book, so you are illegally using the text in the book to write your college papers.
Unless the game is actually illegal to own (which is 0 of them, even banned games are illegal to sell not illegal to own), it's not illegal to have the 'copyrighted material' of a videogame on your person/computer.
Does Yuzu not support .nsp games? If yuzu does support those files then you are wrong because supporting decrypted games means that the software is not primarily designed to bypass the encryption. You're actually allowed to bypass encryption so long as you don't market your emulator for specifically that purpose and it isn't "primarily designed or produced" to decrypt the games, which means you have to also run decrypted games.
Also, the devs profiting or not is completely irrelevant and you bringing it up makes you look like a paid Nintendo shill, since the only ones who care if they get paid are Nintendo.
>DMCA says you can't circumvent DRM measures put in place by IP holders such encryption
not true at all
frick off with your misinformation
That's what Nintendo cited in their complaint and the court was willing to hear the case so go seethe at the judge, not me.
there was no goddamn judge holy frick
it SETTLED before going to TRIAL
NO FACTS GOT HEARD, NO EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED, NO PRECEDENT WAS SET
have a nice day
For a civil suit to even start you have to file a complaint with the court and cite which laws you allege the defendant is breaking. Then jury decides if it's true. That's called due process. Hope that helps.
you replied to the wrong post
The court was willing to hear the case because they paired that claim with the claim that the reason was that Yuzu was designed to enable piracy, and they had a whole shitload of evidence in their filing that at least partially supported that claim.
The case would have been worth hearing, it just wouldn't have created any precedent undermining the right to break decryption for legal uses. The issue was whether or not Yuzu was intended for legal use, or if it was intended for piracy. Because if it was a product distributed for the purposes of enabling piracy, that IS a DMCA violation.
And no, just because software enables piracy does not mean it was intended for that purpose. But the fact that the developers had a history of knowingly promoting and encouraging piracy and access to pirated games, even going so far as to PAYWALL UPGRADES TO IMPROVE YUZU PERFORMANCE ON A TITLE THAT COULD ONLY BE OBTAINED THROUGH PIRACY, Nintendo had at least a reasonable case that Yuzu specifically was distributed with the intent of enabling piracy on a massive scale.
>The court was willing to hear the case because they paired that claim with the claim that the reason was that Yuzu was designed to enable piracy, and they had a whole shitload of evidence in their filing that at least partially supported that claim.
Yeah I know Nintendo's case in a vacuum would be much weaker if the people they were suing were not doing a bunch of other shit relating to piracy. You're barking up the wrong tree. I never said the self-supplying decryption shit was necessarily illegal but we'll never know until someone actual fights Nintendo and there's a clear ruling on it.
I mean you could make that statement about anything without jurisprudence. Until any law goes before the courts it's always technically possible that they'll interpret it to mean all sorts of moronic shit, it just isn't very likely. Until now the courts have always interpreted 1201 in the same way, which is that encryption designed to prevent legal uses can be broken in the course of those legal uses without running afoul of the anti-tamper clause.
Yes you can. The yuzu guys were making a shitton of money. They could have easily fought it and e-begged more money to do so. The issue is whether or not this specific method of decrypting copyrighted shit is illegal and people who Nintendo have effectively caught red handed being blatant pirates are the last people who'd win that case. Hence they settled.
>hey could have easily fought it and e-begged more money to do so
No, they would have lost anyway because they obviously did promote piracy and each of the developers was individually personally guilty of it which discovery would have proved since they ran their fricking jaws about it in their Discord.
>They could have easily fought it and e-begged more money to do so.
This isn't like when a YouTuber gets sued by some random guy. Nintendo would easily be able to bleed them dry and no internet donations would be enough.
Nah that's not how that works. Yes, getting sued is expensive but when you make 30k/month doing nothing and are fighting probably the most important case ever with regards to emulation, people would donate shitloads of money to that cause. The problem is just the devs made complete asses of themselves in private discord messages bragging about piracy. It would be incredibly difficult to wave that away and frame yuzu as a way to preserve games with that shit being presented. It's good they settled and didn't frick over emulation for everyone else by getting a verdict dished out against them.
If it was a simple matter of "hurrr nintendo have money they can sue anyone for no reason" they'd have stopped emulation two decades ago.
>and the court was willing to hear the case
that doesn't mean anything lmao
You don't get it, if Nintendo says it, then it's true. Stop contradicting me!
>DMCA says you can't circumvent DRM measures put in place by IP holders such encryption.
Liar.
If Nintendo says it then it's true
Cope pirateshitter
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201
> to “circumvent a technological measure” means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner; and
only applies if the program's main purpose is to circumvent measures, morono.
According to who
emulators enable the interoperability of software. the DMCA has an exemption for this.
>You don't understand officer. My main purpose was to just steal money. Murder the clerk was just a means to an end!
how you sound lmfao
https://www.copyright.gov/dmca/
>make an emulator
>just upload it with no guide or documentation and let people figure it out.
There no liability.
Easy
TL;DR: They're from Brazil so Nintendo can't do shit.
BU BU BU TENDIES TOLD ME THAT IT WAS THE END OF EMULATION!
What happened, TENDIES!?
Cutting the head of the Hydra.
Simple as that.
This isn't going to go very far. Yuzu set a precedent, and now every other emuator, especially the ones for Switch and 3DS, are in mortal danger.
This.
>precedent
I didn't see the judge's gavel swing
Yeah, that's because Yuzu settled, just like Bleem did. The precedent will still set, albeit "unofficially".
>The precedent will still set, albeit "unofficially".
i'm shaking in my fricking boots
We've never seen an emulator sold in retail stores since Bleem despite that it was "only" a settlement. Same will be true with 3DS emulation, especially since there has been zero alternatives to Citra, as well as Switch 2 emulation, which is already dead in the water thanks to the precedent set by the Yuzu lawsuit..
okay so the emulators can't be sold
they will still exist and be used
Unless Nintendo busts them again.
can't, emulators themselves aren't illegal.
>inb4 "yet"
emulators themselves aren't illegal
Hey, they stopped Yuzu, whats to stop them from going after others?
because yuzu was making money off of it you donut.
Yuzu were morons and gave them a case
yuzu successors aren't repeating that same mistake (in theory)
Sure, having this big article OP posted is a great start.
it's just a name, homie. long as they don't monetize they are untouchable.
>Doesn't sue Dolphin despite being aware of it
>Doesn't sue Slippi despite being aware of it
>Plants spies in yuzu's discord just to catch the devs slipping up once and using it as ammo for a case they'd otherwise have no standing in
They're fricking cowards kek. It takes them 30+ emulators to finally attack one and it's the easiest possible target.
If you keep money completely out of it, and avoid all the other pitfalls, advertising won't matter.
M$, in all their power and resources, can't stop react OS from clean-implementing a FOSS windows
https://reactos.org
Yuzu is based in the USA and had egregiously moronic devs Ninjas were able to get dirt on with regards to piracy.
Anyone with enough programming and engineering know how to make an emulator is going to be from the US. This was basically the death knell for emulation as a whole.
Ya love to see it.
Ryujinx is better and is made by brazillian monkeys
Nintendo have to have either:
1. a valid case
2. a lot of money and resources to buy a plethora of peoples' favor
they won't have 1, and won't risk 2
>Yuzu set a precedent
No it didn't. It settled out of court. The only precedent it set was "don't let the nintendo ninjas doxx your discord conversations, you fricking morons"
>yuzu set a precedent
not in legal terms, no. they surrendered before a precedent could be set. All that's happened is that emulator devs are jumpy with the fear that they'll have to go through the whole pain of getting sued and quite possibly have their souls seized by nintento
You guys already had yuzu installed so you didn't give a shit about it getting taken down, right?
>Pirates can figure out 12 different shady outlets to acquire illegally dumped games but couldn't possibly find a mirror for an emulator
Is this genuinely what you and nintendo believe
>Söyu
Watching poorgay emutard pirates get btfo brings me joy.
yeah.. that's not how that works, you can't just change 1 line of code and then you're legally free.
The emulator itself was not the reason for the lawsuit
Emulation is 100% legal and always has been. Companies are also allowed to encourage piracy. What you can't do is profit from it or use unauthorized lines of copyrighted code.
It's really not complicated
Would also help if you know, they don't fricking get people to talk out loud about it through journalism.
may you all get caught
Imagine needing a lawyer to tell you to not be moronic.
REMINDER
If you ever "played" any game on an emulator, or on a system other than the one it was originally developed for, then you absolutely have not, under any definition of the phrase accepted by a reasonable human being, beaten the game. You "played" something that is equivalent at best to a chinese bootleg.
Commence seething, poors.
k
So, if i'm programming a game for a system using an emulator, the game is not real either, right?
In that case, the only real way to play it is on the emulator. If you play it on real hardware You didn't beat it.
The only thing real is how moronic you are.
That's very bold from someone that is incapable of learning Z80 assembly.
That's right, haha, I'll keep playing Nintendo games FOR FREE.
You know it, haha. A week or even a month before Switch owners!
At 60+FPS, in high resolution, with any control I want. Haha.
I won't stop doing this. Haha.
I just won't stop, ever, hahaha....
Citra still works online by changing 2 lines in the ini so i dont give a frick
>ITT
woooww its info literally everyone knew and every other emu was already doing for fricking decades!!
what is it about switch emus that seem to attract only the most brain dead israelites?
Piracy is theft
>Patreon opened the project up to a set of pesky consumer demands and expectations.
there's that moronic consoomer mentality. I wish it were gone.
giving someone money doesn't entitle you to direct anything. big corpos are living proof of that (e.g. windows gets shittier each release)
Why does Ganker still allow the glorification of piracy to be tolerated?
It's a federal crime. It's against the rules.
Chupa shitendo
Chupa
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHEUHEU
Tectoy > nintendo
here's the thing, I don't really expect any of these funny forks to ever really pan out in the long run
it's the same thing as when Audacity got bought out by musescore and everyone got mad because they added a bunch of telemetry
there was a bunch of forks made but they're not being maintained to date now. and audacity is way bigger than some silly little emulator.
>Added optional telemetry for bug tracking.
Does an audacity fork even need to be maintained? I can't remember the last time I've updated that program.
Not a smart move because they forgot that even if a lawsuit from nintendo doesn't have a lot of arguments they can just prolong it and bleed them dry in legal fees.
Nintendo doesn't care anymore, they killed any chance of fast Switch 2 emulation.
Or just use Ryu
Contrary to what every moron parrots, getting money doesn't mean you'll get raped in court and not taking money doesn't mean you're untouchable
Jesus, you guys are mindbroken.
Profit isnt the issue. The piracy of a game that wasnt even offically out yet was the problem.
this. yuzu probably would have never had any problems if they never made updates specifically to support a game that wasn't out yet (and paywalled them no less). I hope what other devs take from this is that if the emulator is fully FOSS it can never be disrupted like this.
They had no plausible deniability either. If they just worked on a patch in secret and released it after release, nintendo's case would have been way weaker.
I love how tendie morons on here think you emulate if you hate Nintendo. I fricking love Nintendo games lol, I’m playing Mario kart Wii deluxe in dolphin, taiko no tatsujin on my hacked 3ds, and Mario golf for the GBA on a changheld right now. I’m just not going to pay for Nintendo games, not now, not ever. I love Nintendo games and always have, I love talking about them and I make fun of anyone who doesn’t enjoy them, but I will never fricking ever pay for anything other than hardware I can hack with the sole point of stealing Nintendo games. I will always steal Nintendo games and you can’t stop me.
You're not getting free switch games. Nintendo won.
>modchip switch
Yawn, next moron, there’s even mail in services to get it done lmao
>it's illegal because i said so
Yeah we know. Might makes nintendo right.
Nintendo can say whatever the frick they want, doesnt mean they're right
>Nintendo saying something is illegal doesn't count uhhh it doesn't matter that they can file lawsuits and win every single time it's still fine and perfectly legal even though people settle instead of fighting.
Kneel.
We won.
Emulators that decrypt Switch games are illegal.
Even if you think otherwise, you won't fight us. You will settle. So it's effectively illegal.
You vermin are so cute.
Tendies really are something else.
I'm not sure if I should feel sorry for this level of moronic boot licking or sad for this level of moronic mentality
You should feel stupid for falling for easy bait.
>We won
How do you gain from this exactly?
Tears of PCgays.
Tears how?
Yuzu exists.
Theres already a fork.
SUYU is coming along.
What did tendies gain?
>can still run current yuzu
>now have newer forks that are (seemingly) smarter about things
all nintendo did was buff emulators, they're moronic
also
+ got rid of greedy israelites and made people less money-focused on future projects
actually accidently based on their part though
What tears?
Tears of the Kingdom, a game that I can emulate perfectly whenever I want to?
clownfarming
Installed Ryujinx on my 'puter. Where do you guys get fresh firmware, prod.keys and switch gaymes?
@ me if can help out
I'll help you out. you have to go to
https://frickyoujewtendo
dumbass I already found the firmware
I bet you don't even know any worthwhile websites either
look israelitetendo I know you want to sue every website off the face of earth, but you won't get anyone's help with that.
I knew it you have no clue
Here's how the makers of the "Suyu" Switch emulator can avoid getting sued
Step One.
>Don't monetize your emulator
That's it.
The Gankerermin acting like fricking israelites at auschwitz going "oy vey no dont annoy herr stürmführer nintendo don't provoke him!" is really sad. I hope most of them are trolls or shills.
>sue you
There is another promising fork called Sudachi, developed by the guy that ported Yuzu and Citra to iOS.
IT'S GOING TO FALL LIKE YUZU
FUERA DE MI VISTA LADRON!!! ERES UN PIRATA LADRON!!!
Why would monetization matter? In the original Bleem lawsuit that made emulation legal, it was sold for money.
There are three realities in life: You have to pay taxes, white people will never season their food, and Nintendo always wins.
How is smash ultimate on ryujinx?
all they have to do.. is like you know not live in israelitenited states and not use discord like social apps as forums.
>verification not required
The entire case hinges on the idea that you're not allowed to get a piece of software off of a piece of hardware that you bought. Unfortunately this kind of shit has held up in court before but it's utter bullshit. If I bought a product I should have access to every part of it, including any software or firmware that it comes with. If I'm not reselling that software then there shouldn't be any right for a company to say what I'm allowed to do with the product they sold to me.
I'm not trying to argue that they don't have legal ground to stand on, only that the people who established such precedent (and those who continue to use it) should be thrown into the sun.
>the Suyu development team has decided to avoid "any monetization,"
OH MY FRICKING GOD ARE THE NINTENDO FANS FINALLY LEARNING?
>you can't monetize software you made or big company might file a frivolous lawsuit against you
Commie alert
>You can't monetize software you've made that is primarily used to illegally emulate another company's games and where the developers focus all their efforts on emulating games that haven't even been officially released yet
ftfy
Emulation is not illegal and yuzu is not responsible for how users use their software. Literally the only aspect of this case that nintendo had any leg to stand on is the discord logs showing yuzu devs used leaked copies of TotK to patch the emulator before the game was even released. Everything else is fake and gay. There is no issue with monetizing emulators.
>illegally emulate
oxymoron
>>that is primarily used to illegally emulate
>protected content
posts discarded
>posts discarded due to my rage-induced selective illiteracy
ftfy
NTA, but it's about avoiding nonsense and giving giant companies 0 ground.
Patreon-based emulators were basically standing right on the line separating the grey zone from the black one, and akanbe'ing giant companies.
Only the yuzu devs were moronic enough to step over it multiple times and think nothing would happen.
Also, emulator devs should play the long game
>develop a good standing by making quality software
>springboard that goodwill into whatever other non-related software you want to write, and then start taking money if you want.
Greedy clout-hungry selfish c**ts have been painting a target on emulators' and fan projects' collective backs for literal fricking DECADES now, especially for Nintendo related shit. Yuzu kept poking the bear constantly. It's certainly worse that the bear mauled the camper to death, but the camper still shares blame too for teasing the bear like a drunk jackass and ruining the campgrounds for everyone else with new restrictions in the wake of his gruesome disemboweling.
>Yuzu is basically the only emulator that ever made a significant amount of money
Which is a problem since they were distributing keys and shit behind closed doors for development.
>And that's just because everybody has a patreon these days it's a worldwide trend not exactly an original idea.
Jesus christ, anon, do I ACTUALLY have to pull out the classic "if everyone else was jumping off a cliff" comparison?
>You people are just assuming that Nintendo would've actually won the court case
Well yeah. Yuzu's council telling them to fold right away because of their damning exchange of protected content behind closed doors will certainly give that impression. That and Nintendo's insane war chest.
This is a shill post btw, in case anyone were confused. You might have been thinking "surely Gankerermin aren't THIS fricking moronic", and luckily you would have been right.
What are you talking about.
Yuzu is basically the only emulator that ever made a significant amount of money and it was from donations not real "monetization".
And that's just because everybody has a patreon these days it's a worldwide trend not exactly an original idea.
You people are just assuming that Nintendo would've actually won the court case but in reality taking voluntary donations is unlikely to ever cause real legal trouble which is why it's been constantly used as a loophole.
They don't need to win, they just need to make it too expensive for the other side to do anything but settle. No one is ever going to be able to stand up to Nintendo on this issue.
Okay but what does any of this have to do with the legality of Yuzu making money with Patreon
The fact they made money and distributed keys are two separate things that are unrelated
The point is it's perfectly legal for an emulator or anybody for that matter to have a Patreon
Because "donations" are basically a legal grey area themselves since there is no direct buying or selling of anything and it can't be illegal to simply give someone else money for no reason
You had to donate to the Patreon to get access to beta builds that were patched for TotK, at a point when TotK hadn't even been officially released. They advertised this fact.
Literally rewriting history. The EA builds never had any ToTK-specific patches in them. People relied on some anon in the /vg/ thread making forks of ryujinx and some random fork of yuzu posted on reddit to fix the glaring flaws the game had before it officially released.
oh yeah, I remember everyone scrambling for user mods
>there is no direct buying or selling of anything
That wouldn't be illegal either. They could have literally charged for it outright and there would've been no issue. They got caught with their hands in the cookie jar making patches to their emulator using leaked copies of a game that had not been release so they settled.
>The fact they made money and distributed keys are two separate things that are unrelated
That doesn't matter. The big N is always right so you're clearly wrong.
This should've been the case from the start. You don't need to monetize it.
>Here's how the makers of the Suyu switch emulator plan to avoid getting sued
You release and host that shit in Russia where Japan has no power.
>consulting with an unnamed "someone with legal experience" (Sharpie would only say "they claimed three years of law school")
Why not consult to a real 'lawyer', homosexual
their gitlab page is pretty funny
all the issues and commits are just stupid nonsensical things, no actual progress on fixing the emulator
Sure, shout it to the heavens. That'll keep Nintendo from finding out.
These idiots are asking for it.
I knew that patreon was going to be their achilles heel.
It may not have been technically illegal, but if you didn't think supporters paying you six figures for developing a program that lets you play pirated versions of their games wasn't going to get nintendo's army of lawyers shoved down your throat, you're pretty frickin' stupid.
>This is a shill post btw, in case anyone were confused. You might have been thinking "surely Gankerermin aren't THIS fricking moronic", and luckily you would have been right.
>you don't bootlick corporation and blame their wrongdoings on their victims? you must be beta cuck troony!!!!!!
Yes shill, you keep using this tactic and it is very obvious.
Look you stupid frustrated gamer. Stop slighting Nintendo. Everything they do is out of love for their fans.
Why is it so hard to be a honest, decent human being and admit that you're a filthy pirate defending other rotten pirates? It will make everyone's job easier.
>unlawfully hacking a Nintendo Switch console.
Impossible. No company can tell me what I can and can't legally do with hardware I purchased from them. I own it. Frick you.
>"th-they'll win, s-stupid fricking Nintendo sh-should know Sony a-already tried, it's l-legal"
>Yuzu settles and goes under
>"YOU DIDNT WIN, YOU DIDN'T WIN, YOU JUST HAVE MORE MONEY, YOU DIID NOOOOOT"
lol'd
> wins
>After consulting with an unnamed "someone with legal experience" ... the Suyu development team has decided to avoid "any monetization,"
How do these morons function?
I don't really care about switch emulator now. pre lawsuit yuzu still works and we also have ryujinx.
what really matters now is if it's possible to emulate the next Nintendo console which will probably be released next year. with how yuzu became popular that Nintendo had to go full israelite mode to shut down that open source community they will definitely add PS4 level encryption in the next console.
since nintendo doesn't use their own in house engines it is only a matter of time
emulation will be fine. nintendo's basis for their suit against yuzu was very questionable. their entire case rested on framing the devs as pirates which is why they effectively doxxed them before actually presenting it to the court. nintendo is only going to pick a battle they're guaranteed to win. if they sue an emulator, it goes to court and they rule it as legal, that would be disastrous for them.
as long as an emulator can run isos/roms it's subjected to high piracy and in turn is subjected to copyright lawsuits and the like, stop being moronic guys
>as long as guns can fire bullets
This. If emulators want to avoid being sued, they need to be specifically hardware-based and use real cartridges, while blocking the use of everdirve and repro carts, and they cannot use any mechanism that bypasses official encryption methods or circumvents DRM. PC emulation is illegal in all of its forms because there's no way to program PC emulators to run real, officially released cartridges.
>there's no way to program PC emulators to run real, officially released cartridges.
moronic tendie, plenty of emulators have official disk/cartridge support.
This was the real aim of Nintendo. Show they mean to take action and that they follow you enough to keep records of your discord. Force you in a position you keep going at your own peril or close up shop of your own accord. I think most sensible people will choose the latter at this point. You look what they did to Yuzu and the hacker Bowser and it really doesn't seem worth it for most people.
too bad they just made a martyr of yuzu
Can't wait to see it happen again.
Filtered trip newbie
>Boco
>newbie
Way to out yourself.
Dolphin just got fricked big thanks to Nintendo shutting down the Steam port. You can bet they're going to be next to put an end of their development to avoid possible lawsuits. Cemu is gone too.
Dolphin has been around longer than some people in this thread.
Nintendo sure are taking their time.
The day nintendo forces emus to be illegal and all of them shutdown is the day their shitty windows 98' servers get atomically zipbombed
This is the best outcome. They did not need to be making money off this shit in the first place. Any emulator devs that try to monetize their shit should be treated like modders that try to monetize it. Maybe a donation link, but no more than that.
emulators are "legal", sure, but roms and isos aren't and this does include home dumps like it or not, morons. you are bypassing security to upload said game and the law says you don't have the right to backup said content and use it elsewhere.
Dumping physical media is legal in most of Europe.
I thought you can't just fork Yuzu and be done with it? I meant they need to start at once, or at least restart their project from before they did sketchy things?
Suyu is a Yuzu fork, plus you can find a bunch of Yuzu forks on GitHub
most of the situation is unrelated to yuzu itself
>devs sharing ninty keys, games, etc in chat
>paywalling features
>attempting to monetize their own Yuzu Online
Yuzu itself is fine (Besides the telemetry)
I am wary of any emulator that just happens to show up when a popular one gets taken down or stops development for whatever reason. It sounds too good to be true. If it happened a few months after or whatever, fine. But new ones immediately popping up raises some red flags in my head. Like some butthole just happened to have another emulator ready just when two popular emulators got taken down? I know it's open source, but how many people have actually vetted it's not some kind of spyware yet?
>but how many people have actually vetted it's not some kind of spyware yet?
You can check the source and compile it yourself, the project is on GitLab
>it just looks like the korean flag
you can't make this shit up
>forks are starting to pop up
EmuChads...we won.
Ryujinx was always better, but it is good to have alternatives.
>Ryujinx was always better
they need to stop being stubborn autists and implement the async shader caching
also the native controller driver yuzu had is something ryujinx doesnt have
afaik yuzu was and still is better for most games
>async shader caching
Never had stutter issues on Ryujinx, let me guess, Radeon user?
>also the native controller driver yuzu had is something ryujinx doesnt have
Ryujinx supports my DS4 connected via BT, and it can use the gyro sensor on it.
>afaik yuzu was and still is better for most games
Ryujinx is more accurate and less prone to visual glitches, Yuzu was always the poorgay's choice.
>Radeon user
Yes.
>Ryujinx supports my DS4 connected via BT, and it can use the gyro sensor on it.
Yes but you could connect your switch controller to your PC in switch mode and the native driver could communicate with it for 100% mapping accuracy and lower input lag, like what you get on dolphin with the GC adapter or N64 with the raphnet adapter
>Ryujinx is more accurate and less prone to visual glitches, Yuzu was always the poorgay's choice.
I don't really give a frick if it's marginally more accurate when yuzu plays and runs better simple as
Concession accepted, buy NVIDIA next time.
I don't care about AI so why would I buy nvidia for 3x markup for the same rasterization performance? Because some random emulator that a better alternative exists for has slightly better nvidia optimization? lol
>Emulating games for a console that's still in production with highly unfinished emulatlors preaching about accuracy
If you cared about accuracy at this point in time you'd play on real hardware.
It will eventually go out of print. The legwork will have to be done at some point anyway. It's stupid to delay.
>you'd play on real hardware.
I don't want to play at 480p 20fps anon
But anon playing at 4k 120fps is not hecking accurate
Neither is playing at 20fps when the game is 30fps.
>He thinks 20fps is an emulator problem
No this is what switchgays actually play with in some of the busier areas
>Playing a jap game whose gameplay is tied to the framerate at unintended fps and resolutions with some workaround hacks to make it sort of function
So you don't care about accuracy?
See
Digital Foundry showed TOTK having drops down to 18fps, and all the game slowed down because the engine is tied to 30fps.
That's accurate. What, you don't want to play a 1:1 accurate version of the game on your emulator?
Now you are just being moronic, if the engine logic is slowing down because of fps drops then it has nothing to do with accuracy, just the Switch being underpowered, the game was made to run at 30fps, and that's the framerate I used, I didn't install any fps mods, just solid 30fps, unlike the Switch.
>uhhh accuracy only matters when i say it does
cope
you don't care about accuracy
Ok tendie, enjoy your 18fps with slowdowns.
Hardware accuracy is a meme. Game accuracy is what's important. Timing, physics, gameplay, graphics. Hardware accuracy only made sense with consoles that had strange hardware and did things differently from the rest like the N64 or the PS2.
>Timing, physics, gameplay, graphics
It's a japanese game and those morons are notorious for tying game logic to framerate. By increasing it with hacks you're not playing an accurate game.
So am I a tendie or a yuzugay, make up your mind moron lmfao
>By increasing it with hacks you're not playing an accurate game.
Good thing I didn't increase the framerate moron
>Yes
Don't let him fool you. Any computer stutters compiling shader synchronously. He doesn't have a mystery computer capable of playing games stutter free without a shader cache built first.
I literally switched to Ryujinx because Yuzu stuttered like crazy with TOTK.
I made the Radeon assumption because every time I see someone having issues with Ryujinx they are either a Macgay or a Radeon user.
Why is there no database of compiled shaders for cemu or yuzu/ryujinx
It would be really nice to play something like Bayo 2 without getting a stutter every time a new asset comes up for the first time
Notice how you need to compile shaders again every time you update your GPU drivers? A database wouldn't work.
I hadn't noticed that at all, I do graphic driver updates manually maybe once a month
Is there any reason you couldn't pre-compile like the MHRise port does?
i wish the emulator was at least smart enough to precompile shit in advance instead of waiting to do it asynchronously during gameplay
let me hit a button and walk away to make a sandwich
If you don't care about accuracy then you don't really care about emulation.
Even without async compilation, Yuzu is much faster at compiling shaders. It's day and night.
>Illegal
so uh where's the court case that shows the precedent that what Nintendo claims is actually illegal
there isn't one. there also isn't one that ruled it legal. until someone nintendo sues fights them and wins it may as well be illegal
it's innocent until proven guilty you commie
Just tried the 60fps mod and the remove film grain mod
Bayonetta 3 still runs like shit
>remove film grain mod
Disgusting
Is there a reason why ryujinx freezes when compiling shaders?
>ctrl+f injunction
>0 results
>ctrl+f summary judgement
>0 results
I thought Nintendo was going to kill emulation?
>The project's GitLab page clearly states that "we do not intend to make money or profit from this project,"
it baffles me that this is written as some kind of revelation
Wait what, yuzu is kill?
wienerona
I still find it funny that Nintendo picked possibly the worst possible time to take down Yuzu. Why did they go after an emulator that was mostly feature complete, and any new games would just need small patches from the community? The open source with forks makes it even easier.
Nintendo basically got nothing out of this. All they did was inform emulator developers on how to avoid trouble with the Switch 2 emulator. They should have waited until they released their next console, and work was already underway on developing the next emulator. Wait until it's booting games but not running them properly at all. THEN strike with a lawsuit for these same reasons since people would still be doing them. They could have cut off an emulator before it was properly playable and set back development a ton. Instead, all they did was... buff emulation development with no setbacks.
They struck down Yuzu because the devs made several mistakes that allowed Ninty to build a strong case against them. It's not something that Nintendo could have done at any time, otherwise they'd be taking down emulators left and right.
I do understand that and they struck fast when they had a solid case. I just have a feeling they could have taken many of the same reasons and very likely applied it to their next console that gets an emulator developed, especially if it was the same team. I'm sure some of their reasons would still apply but not as many as this team fricked up on. It still feels like they took some strong ammo and spent it before it could do anything for them. They're only going to see a small fraction of the money they made. They made an example out of them and taught us how to get around some of these ordeals better. At most Nintendo just spooked a few people but I don't think it's going to change much. I think Nintendo thought they were going to use this case to set a much strong precedence but I don't think it's going to play out how they hope.
Yuzu devs were extremely moronic, they literally had a repo with a bunch of Switch games.
this. whether you shitheels want to admit it or not. Emulators have ALWAYS been 100% legal. mostly because they follow these simple rules.
>they use their own code
>they arent made for profit (aka: they dont charge for use)
>they dont provide critical files (bios, keys, roms), at most they provide methods so you can get your critical files from your own legally owned console.
Yuzu broke rules 2 and 3, as well as to overpromote the emu in socialmedia. thats the only reason Nintendo managed to had a surefire case against them. and as long as Ryujin or whatever comes out from Yuzu's source doesnt make those mistakes again, nintendo cant do SHIT.
the only thing it pisses me off about this is that PinballFX3 was never emulated on Yuzu android.
all i got is black screens and i want to properly play some williams pinball on my phone considering the actual williams pinball app is even worse than a fricking gacha.
>Yuzu broke rules 2 and 3
correction, only rule 2, i dunno why i put rule 3.
How long until they fork Yuzu and continue the Android emulation work?
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>6 ips
You guys need a hobby kek this board is so fricking dead
>6 ips
that's the page number you colossal moron
>he actually fell for it
>interview wth big gaming journo
why can't these pirates STAY LOW PROFILE? STAY HIDDEN? Why do they always FLAUNT THEIR DICK IN PUBLIC? I fricking hate these modern pirates, bunch of attention seekers.
the greedy israelites behind yuzu kept it all for themselves, but now nintendo has opened the flood gates. those morons just accelerate emulation development.
I like the logo so its cool
You think Nintendo is against Right to Repair laws as well? I can imagine them wanting to sue anyone who tries to fix joycons, instead of being forced to buy another pair at 80 bucks a pop. They probably have a hard time doing it outside of Japan, thanks to Apple losing so many court cases regarding the topic.
ALL megacorps are against the right to repair, this is a rule of thumb
That's ridiculous. I've never heard of a megacorp doing such a thing. When Apple starts suing repair centers for not being certified with them, or when John Deere starts putting DRM in their tractors to stop home repairs, then you can talk.
Dont forget Tesla nd BMW putting DRM in their cars
i see no reason not to just use yuzu and ryujinx for the time being. my copy of yuzu still works ill stop using it when it stops working
Good, if there is one thing that's killing both Modding and Emulation is people trying to profit of it.
the moment money got into it both scenes got flooded with a bunch of trannies and israelites that had absolutely no passion for the craft.