Nioh 2

Love this game but too bad they skip uesugi and takeda

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    would you recommend this if i liked lies of p? which one is the better soulslike?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nioh 2 is the cream of the crop. Nobody who plays it can dislike it. It's also very cozy with co-op multiplayer and has tons of endgame content.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        The stage based approach where it remixes shit for side content and the diablo loot can be very off putting to people. But yeah, in terms of combat and content it utterly owns. I've dumped 350+ hours into it already, and I'm still not tired of it.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Nobody who plays it can dislike it
        I do. I dropped it half ways in. Can't argue that combat is good but everything else is so lacking.
        >story doesn't exist
        >levels are "My first unreal level" tier
        >loot is trash and everything is the same with X% modifier
        >characters are irrelevant
        It get's boring really quick. I went from
        >this is way too hard
        to
        >this is great and the combat is amazing when it finally clicks
        to
        >this is repetitive and boring
        in less than 15 hours.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          the story expects you to have attended high school in japan for you to know what is going on

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, fair.

          the story expects you to have attended high school in japan for you to know what is going on

          At some point I stopped trying to even understand whose side I was on during that war.
          The game throw at you 50 guys named Takato Orochiricefrickutbh or whatever, and clearly expect you to be impressed just because they said their name.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't forget about fighting the same boring enemies most of the time. Bosses are great but (rightfully so) they are not what you will be facing most of the time and I just can't stand this.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I preferred Nioh 1 personally, it feels free-er somehow.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Nioh 2 is the cream of the crop. Nobody who plays it can dislike it
        I played it and I found it worse than Ninja Gaiden Black in every way. It breaks the Souls games back and forth combat and makes it more floaty and with less responsive bosses, with mechanics like YS, Soul Core or Ki flux, but also doesn't committ to true freedom of movement and combat and is shackled by clunky Souls mechanics like lock-on (which unlike Souls games is basically mandatory due to the control scheme and face buttons needed for attacks), any kind of aerial manuver and combo or dynamic multi-enemy combat

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >dynamic multi-enemy combat
          What exactly does this mean to you?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Usually that you can switch to attacking any target without being slowed down by a clunky Souls lock on system and the fight includes walljumping and verticality

            You can move around pretty fast, it might not be NG fast but that's fine. The game is responsive, has fun execution, and has actual good enemy design.

            >and has actual good enemy design.
            Barely above ninja gaiden in terms of bosses and way inferior in most combat encounters instead, and bosses weren't the focus of ninja gaiden

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              nah general enemies and bosses are way better. Ninja Gaiden is mostly a player driven game. The enemies don't have a lot of depth to them though they're still smartly designed.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              How boring and shallow.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can move around pretty fast, it might not be NG fast but that's fine. The game is responsive, has fun execution, and has actual good enemy design.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nioh barely qualifies for a soulslike and it will hand you your own ass on a silver platter if you will try to play it as one. The framework they created for the combat system is unique within the entire arpg genre.
      Thus said, it's an excellent game.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nioh shits all over lies of piss.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you have not yet played Nioh1/2 then sure, go for it. It's a great game, though hardly "soulslike".

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you enjoy gear autism and getting one-shot, yeah go ahead. Feral yokai is the most fun shit.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nioh 2 is an ARPG, you just respawn like in souls games, thats the single similarity it has with it
      Its also an excellent game

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      As many said already, it's barely a soulslike. It's more like a DMC game (or a Ninja Gaiden game, seeing as it's from the same devs) with RPG elements and LIGHT souls elements (lose all EXP after dying with a chance to pick it up, similar checkpoint system).
      So liking lies of P does not necessarily mean you will like Nioh. Do you like DMC or NG? If yes, then there is a higher chance you will like Nioh as well.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It‘s way better than Lies of P. The moment to moment combat is unmatched in the ARPG genre, and the builds are super fun.
      Also the more you play it the more you‘ll realize that it‘s only a soulslike on a surface level.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nioh is its own thing. Its combat blows the frick out of souls, let alone souls clones, but it's lacking in most other ways like world building and atmosphere. Definitely worth playing, but it's a different experience.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, i'd actually argue that Nioh has its own atmosphere, and it's superb if you like the setting. I think they nailed derelict japanese temples and villages extremely well, especially when there's some ambiance like rain is attached. Sohaya village in 2 was superb.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nioh's combat has jackshit to do with Souls-like.
      If anything you will absolutly hate it if you go in expecting something that work like DS/LoP.

      Combat is infinitely better, everything else is way worse.
      I would advise starting with Nioh 1 tho, the ambiance in it is much better than in 2.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Combat and RPG mechanics are far more important than ambiance

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s much better than Lies of P because it has much more variety in builds, play styles, magic, weapon types, combos…
      Lies of P has good melee combat but it doesn’t give you a whole lot to do with it so it’s a bit repetitive imo
      Also ignore the morons saying Nioh isn’t a soulslike, it totally is

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah I get tired of the "it's not a souls like" meme. It has bonfire checkpoints that refill health potions, shortcuts, corpse running for exp lost on death, similar lock on system, similar leveling system, similar emphasis on bosses, general difficulty, light and heavy attacks, stamina etc. It's definitely a souls like. However it also does a lot of its own things so just calling it a souls clone doesn't do it justice when there's so many sloppy souls clones out there.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          While i don't disagree, i just want to point out that potions aren't really refilled, more like restocked from storage.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I never played Lies of P, but compared to souls, I prefer souls. In Nioh 2 you can get killed by 1 hit by a regular ass mob. Even in Fromsoft games that kind of shit is usually reserved for certain boss fights but in Nioh 2 any regular foot soldier can frick you up in 0.2 seconds.

      The thing is... I keep coming back to it and keep trying to inch forward, so it is doing something right. But it is a stressful as frick game to play, even when compared to Fromsouls games.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they are actually patching Wo Long into a decent state
    Wonder if they called some senior designer into the project to assist them with final balancing
    6 MAs actually change the combat significantly

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I heard wolong's dev are mostly newbies

      Well I still love Wolong after playing nioh though,it have a lot to improve but at least not hopeless.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        i'm addicted to thousand mile journey. looking forward to seeing what they do in DLC 3

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wish the add more features about the old weapon or long sword overshadow other weapon
          And dev please do something about Dian Wei's MA.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Long sword fundamentally overshadows everything else because of it sacred sheath like charge mechanic. But they did add a few new MA and boss MAs with DLCs, like the boomerang staff throw which is pretty neat for ranged status pressure.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Heard that Wo-Long set bonuses were low and RPG side of things have been pretty bad, have they fixed that yet?
      Nioh 2 had some amazingly varied builds

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Heard that Wo-Long set bonuses were low and RPG side of things have been pretty bad, have they fixed that yet?
        They straight doubled most set bonuses with dlc 2 patch
        Graces are pretty cool too. My favourite is the super healing one.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >They straight doubled most set bonuses with dlc 2 patch
          Oh thats great to hear, I'll go take a peep

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does this mean PC can now run a smooth minimum of 60 fps

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Optimization is better than it was before but it's still far from being like Nioh 2

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dang. I'll hold off for the final DLC and maybe a patch

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ninja build with bombs is bad in Nioh2?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think it's as broken as you could do it back in Nioh 1 but bombs are a decent support item at least.
      Ninjas are now ninpo masters, feathers are super cool.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shouldn't be

      I don't think it's as broken as you could do it back in Nioh 1 but bombs are a decent support item at least.
      Ninjas are now ninpo masters, feathers are super cool.

      >feathers are super cool
      Feathers are pretty imbalanced for how strong they are, featherspam is one of the most broken builds in the game and honestly trivializes everything

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing is bad in Nioh 2 as long as you have a grasp on the whole picture and how to make the most of it. Except Raijin, Mortal Flow and Fluidity.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I HAVE BEEN DOING THE SAME FRICKING SHITTY MISSION WITH GEAR THAT UPS THE DROP RATE OF ITEMS AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE SHITTY FRICKING SKILL BOOK OR WHATEVER THE FRICK ITS CALLED. FRICK THIS STUPID SHIT.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I killed purple Gyuki over 100 times before I got the scroll I wanted.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    So disappointing that they reused all skills for every weapon

    My fav weapons are sword and kusarigama but it's boring playing them when they're unchanged from nioh 1 and I don't care about any other weapon.

    🙁

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      But fists

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's annoying having to constantly manage range and the fist skills all lock you into long animations that you seldom can cancel out of

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      IMO a set or a grace can shakeup playstyles quite a bit
      I recommend trying that iaijutsu grace or you could do both and utilize that grace that encouraged constantly swapping between weapons while refreshing and transporting elemental buffs between weapons, so you could be using Kusa+Kat while constantly juggling the two
      Sadly that's mildly lategame stuff, you need to probably uhh, get to NG++
      Also pretty sure 1kat got a bunch of new skills like the laser sword, DLC kurama dance and uhh I dont think Oda's slowwalk was in Nioh 1?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      IMO a set or a grace can shakeup playstyles quite a bit
      I recommend trying that iaijutsu grace or you could do both and utilize that grace that encouraged constantly swapping between weapons while refreshing and transporting elemental buffs between weapons, so you could be using Kusa+Kat while constantly juggling the two
      Sadly that's mildly lategame stuff, you need to probably uhh, get to NG++
      Also pretty sure 1kat got a bunch of new skills like the laser sword, DLC kurama dance and uhh I dont think Oda's slowwalk was in Nioh 1?

      Oh, and forgot: 1kat also got the ebin Judgement Cut in the last DLC iirc

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      1kat actually got a major overhaul thanks to the new skills, and it also gets several boss moves ending with a fricking Shigurui reference.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a fricking Shigurui reference
        Really? Which one?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Reverse Impact, from Fujiwara no Chikata in DLC 3.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous
    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, you're a moron. Nioh 2 significantly improved nearly every weapon with all the additional skills from free updates + DLCs. 1kat especially is the one with the new most new skills. Kusa got some stuff idk that weapon sucks and they didn't do much to imrpove it in 2.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kusarigama was exceptionally strong in 1 and though the few skills it got in 2 didn't have a dramatic effect on how it plays they are massive in terms of giving it more, better ways to do so and are simply very good.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          No it wasn't

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love this game but I have to take a gap of a few months per NG cycle. As good as the gameplay is, going through the same areas can get stale. I'm currently at Way of The Demon.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      So you barely played it

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    is that onimusha 5?

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    WILLIAM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HIDE

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly sparring?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      same guy who voiced Sea King from OPM and Kira in Jojo ASB btw

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Say hello to my tonfas

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only if you let me marry your daughter

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm still confuse why TN made him as the strongest human boss in the game

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I dunno, Raiko is pretty up there IMO
        Altho I admit I was playing a ranged build and could 1/2-shot him with a headshot

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the strongest human boss in the game
        That's Ren Hayabusa.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I went into this mission thinking he would be a b***h and no he wiped the floor with me.
      With the fist I managed to kill him eventually.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >against all coomers
    What were they thinking again? It's like I am playing dmc bloody palace or something.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I gotta seriously give this a go someday. I've completed Nioh 1 when I was less busy 2 years ago and I adored it, when I launched 2 and saw all the shit there is to do I postponed it. I don't have time to do so much shit in vidya anymore but I know I'd love it

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The DLCs are post-main story and short, just do the main story then the dlcs in the ng+

      Friendly sparring?

      This guy makes me seethe so fricking much on every difficulty, frick this cheating c**t

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nioh 2 one of games with something i call good character creator.
    One where creating cute character is possible and easy. Not many sush games. Other games that comes to mind is MG Survival and MH Stories 2.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Still no Wo Long equivalent for pic rel?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is that supposed to show

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Character comparison between Samurai Warriors, Nioh, and Sengoku Basara. There should be one for Wo Long and Dynasty Warriors.

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    How the FRICK do i use 1kat and axe?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The same way you use every weapon, by making the most of the strengths from each attack and skill and chaining them together via Flux. You might need to narrow it down more than that.
      1kat is a relatively balanced weapon that is easy to learn but scales infinitely with how good the player actually is, its moveset is also very well defined in terms of having several different answers for different specific scenarios.
      To go over general use categories while not being comprehensive at all, damage skills include Morning Moon, Iai Quickdraw (learning to sheathe cancel makes it very effective earlier), Night Rain and Light in Darkness. Ki damage skills are Kick and Heaven Flash (a strong allrounder), with Shadow Sword and Sword Ki also being good for Ki damage but leaning towards Break. It also has good utility options including several anti-human parries like Backwave and Water Shadow, the latter being notable for working on skeletons too.

      As for axe, it trades a bit of subtlety and speed for extreme damage and Ki damage, but still has a surprising amount of complexity hidden in it if you want to delve in. The important things to keep in mind with it are to understand spacing, timing and the versatility of its charged skills as you can release them right away treating them as two in one. Using low stance well to create openings matters due to the speed.
      Damage-wise, Lumber Chop, Mad Spinner and Heaven and Earth are extremely good, for Ki damage High Kick, Cloud Crush, Earth Carver and especially Rampage (which is unblockable, a yokai stagger and high damage when charged) are good, and basically everything you do is huge Break. The guard and parry skills like Spirit Wind, Spirit Storm and Roar are quite underrated as well, especially the first one for how hard it hits and Spinning Slide works on some yokai attacks as well, plus you can change stance during the spin to use other skills.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        How the FRICK do i use 1kat and axe?

        heaven and earth is OP and axe is the moron grug weapon
        just wearing heavy armor and trading hits works on virtually all enemies

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is it really? I feel like it takes way more timing and is more punishing compared to say, spears, tonfas and hatchets.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            having stamina as a damage stat is what really makes it
            I just let bosses hit me no problems at all

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have only played 1 but just throwing on an axe and heavy armor definitely did not allow you to facetrade. In fact heavy armor was barely viable at all until at least ng+

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate the screaming woman so much, and crabs, I don't know how to kill crabs

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Use every thing that contains lightning, or you have to wait until it's face turn back.

      Character comparison between Samurai Warriors, Nioh, and Sengoku Basara. There should be one for Wo Long and Dynasty Warriors.

      I actually prefer zhao yun in wolong more then DW.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Team Ninja never fails when it comes to character design. I mean, look at Dong Zhou in pic rel. The DW version of him is a fat frick while the Wo Long version is a brute that can destroy you (As well as the second boss that gave me a hard time other than Lu Bu)

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Crabs are extremely simple and actually very fun to fight if you take a second to recognize what you're trying to fight and how to deal with them. Hit their back, especially when its glowing. The recognizing part comes from learning its moveset and seeing that all nearly all its attacks either turn it to expose its back or can be dodged in such a way to leave you right at its back. Ubumes are a similar story, they like to dodge after being hit, so focus on dash attacks and gapclosing skills to punish it.

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    POST YOU'RE HIDDYS

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Here

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just used the default female hiddy. I was never very good at character creators.

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >want to play nioh 2
    >see all the weapons i want are behind dlc

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I only remember buying the definitive edition. unironic skill issue

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the sword or katana that can do several air slashing projectiles, saw some high level player use it and it seems really fun and op

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The pair of discord schizos are desperate indeed. Still there is some information worth spreading.

      That could mean several different things. One of the skills available from a boss in the DLC is Sacred Bird Cry, which is a universal skill (any weapon can equip it) that uses Anima to do multiple beam slashes, releasing a ton of Amrita on it to charge Yokai Shift and doing decent damage with both the beams and attack adding up. There is also an Onmyo spell, the Cutting Blast talisman makes all your strong attacks shoot low damage/ok Ki damage waves for a time, which is effective for locking down enemies. Finally, weapons with Imbue Corruption have their Sentience gauge, and when it's maxed out and buffing the weapon it will also add a beam to the last strong attack in the string, this uses a little of the gauge to do good damage and high Corruption infliction.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It looked like this, except the effect was two times bigger

        0:30

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        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think he means the hidden skill for katana: Severing Spin.

          Ah right, "several projectiles" made me think ranged but Severing Spin is probably what it is then if it was the typical draw and sheathe anime Judgement Cut-esque move. It is also a skill from a DLC boss but for katana specifically, it does decent damage, can't be staggered and the AoE is really big so while it can be hard to work in at times due to startup it can be quite effective.

          >a fricking Shigurui reference
          Really? Which one?

          Reverse Impact, its basically the exact move in the pic he posted. High damage and starts extremely quickly, it has a lot of recovery but that can be cancelled with Yokai Skills etc..

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Reverse Impact, from Fujiwara no Chikata in DLC 3.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GfCF2KIOBc&t=44s

            Damn, that's cool as hell. Never had it drop and wasn't even aware it existed.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think he means the hidden skill for katana: Severing Spin.

  19. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    team ninja...nioh 3...please...

    you may never catch up to souls game sales, buts its guaranteed money...

  20. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    How good is this game for co-op play? I wanna see if I can run through this with a friend, do they get to use their own character?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's great the lobbies add more enemies and has its own revival mechanics. You also share progress so you don't have to redo missions. Only downside is that some side missions aren't available

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh neat, thanks I'll have to talk them into it then

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very good, there's two forms of co-op, one where you can just summon other players to help you clear a mission when you're in it and another where you create a lobby and can seamlessly play through the full game, this mode adjusts enemy placements, has a partner revival mechanic instead of checkpoints, counts clearing missions for all those taking part and can technically be played solo. Almost the entire game barring a small handful of dedicated duel and dojo missions can be done co-op, and you use your own character of course.

  21. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    hate this game and they skipped uesugi and takeda
    what a trashpile

  22. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It must get boring at some point to spend every thread bouncing obvious repetitive rehearsed bait between you.

  23. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wo Long (and SoP) are the way better ARPGs and action games, but you couldn't stunlock the boss for half the fight with Yokai bullshit and Gears of War active reload abusing the trash ki system so Niohgays chimped out like apes

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Funny how often "unpopular" coincides with "moronic"

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the games that are on xbox are better
      Don't think I don't see through you, anon.

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